Elon Musk Unveils Robotaxi - "We, Robot" Breakdown

Here's my breakdown and reaction to the We, Robot event.
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[@matthew_berman]

W or L for robotaxi and robovan?

[@Sven_Dongle]

I guess he is banking on self driving level 5 by the time they want to deploy these, because it sure isnt there yet.

[@user-ky8je2qj3z]

"Yes."

[@michaelnurse9089]

Its W for both. Cars that drive themselves give you your time back. Cars that are shared reduce the cost of getting around 10x.

[@jiggig]

Huge W. Funny how the market reacts. Never fails. I don't think a Tesla even has ever had a positive short term reaction on the stock market. Robotaxis in 2025 in the two biggest states. That's 20% of the total US population. Sure they only start out with regular Teslas. Before launching a year or two later with the dedicated robotaxis. The bots are improving so fast, and even with the human help at the event it is extremely impressive. Every time people say it's all vaporware and smoke and mirrors. Just like they did with Model 3, Model Y and Cybertruck. The cap will have "infinite" demand and be the biggest revenue product in the world. Only to be beaten shortly after with Optimus that will be more than 10 times bigger. Looks like I have more time to buy more $TSLA. Hell Yeah!

[@roadrunner223]

L - hardware isn’t the problem, software is. They barely mentioned software.

[@DannerBanks]

The stock is down because nothing they showed will happen "soon". Investors expect sellable product announcements

[@heartyfisher]

They are not going to Osborne themselves.

[@13thbiosphere]

show an Optimus picking an apple tree at a rate of 10 kilograms per hour .... stock may have gone up

[@olveaustlid4383]

Exactly, at least for professional investors. When it comes to retail investors, who are prone to think more long-term, he has estranged himself politically from a lot of them. It takes away the "Wow!" reaction needed to impress them. The end result is a lackluster stock reaction even though the future potential is still great.

[@christophnikolaus3428]

Was there even one critical or sceptical remark in the entire video? There is no way in hell that he can deliver a price of 20 cent per mile. Even if his absolutely unrealistic 30000 dollar price tag per car is taken (that would be without lidar) then depending on how many miles you assume the car can drive and how often you have to change the battery until the car is worth nothing, the depreciation per mile would be between 8 to 15 cents per mile. Then you have the price for electricity to drive (will be much higher with inefficient wireless charging as proposed), the price for taxes and fees, insurance, the infrastructure for cleaning the cars, repairs, etc.. Not yet included is the price for the processing power to power the AI. The price for one H100 is 25000 dollars, with his own silicon maybe half and I highly doubt that 80 GB are enough, so one would need a couple of them. And then the absolutely ridiculous idea of selling processing power from a car that will NEVER happen. You would not need it to train frontier models, as their bottleneck is data transfer speed not FLOPS, so that will not happen. The only scenario I could think of would be selling AI inference compute, but I can't see that being cheaper in a car compared to a datacentre when adding maintenance, repairs, data transfer, etc. (and it would probably have to be open source, I can't see OpenAI loading their newest models onto the GPUs in the cars)

[@Nathaniel_Bush_Ph.D.]

This! And like 10 more problems on top.

[@waveoffeit8577]

Somebody had to say it!

[@erkinalp]

20 cent per mile is bus fare territory really

[@byrnemeister2008]

The cost of the silicon probably isn’t a major factor. But there are many many many other major factors to overcome.

[@RDOTTIN]

🤣Sure. Just like everyone was certain an electric semi would never work. Maybe Bill Gates would like your comment.🤣

[@Nathaniel_Bush_Ph.D.]

The 13-year-old nerd in me thinks this is amazing. The realistic, practical, and analytical adult in me sees like 20 major problems and knows that this is total BS.

[@firstlast-em2yq]

Mileage depreciates a car. If your car is being used by third-parties, you are a business. The legal implications are massive and costly.

[@sharpvidtube]

The insurance would be astronomical. FSD from Tesla is currently way behind the average driver, as it needs to be supervised. Who knows if that will ever change? Elon has been saying it will be ready for so many years, I find it impossible to keep the faith.

[@sevilnatas]

Anyone that is excited about anything that comes out of Elon's mouth is ignoring every single other announcement he has made. Not one time has he made an announcement that has been accurate.

[@sharpvidtube]

I agree, except when he sunk twitter and he was carrying a sink, that was fairly accurate😂

[@Streamweaver]

We talk about car "life" all wrong. Sure, materials degrade on their own while just sitting there, but the real degradation happens when you use it. So you're not getting more value out of the lifetime of your car, you're burning down the lifetime of the car much faster by keeping it constantly in use. We keep talking about this as if we're capturing missed value, but that isn't accurate.

[@MellowHighFi]

Agreed

[@robbrown2]

Yes, you're definitely getting more value out of the lifetime of the car. It not only ages while it's sitting such as sun damaging the paint (if parked outside like mine is) but it's just depreciating in value because it's getting older and the technology becoming out of date. It's also taking up space which is a big deal if you happen to live in a city as I do. Also in the city you'll realize how much of your driving and time is spent finding a place to park and then walking to your destination as opposed to just pulling right up to where you wanna be and then having the car drive away.

[@JustinWestbrook-be1mp]

Are you brain dead? It’s earning you money while you’re not using it.

[@getmerolling]

Mainly the battery. The other parts not so much. But... isnt it correct that solid state batteries have a longer life span? And what is the first Tesla car to get those new batteries... the robocab 😉

[@sassythesasquatch7837]

As cool as it was, I had a few problems with the presentation: 1) If the taxis have no steering wheels or foot pedals, when things go wrong which they inevitably will sometimes, how do you get the car out of being stuck somewhere 2) The car cleaning they showed off might be good for getting rid of some crumbs on the seats and floor, but what happens when someone has spilled their drink on the seat belt? Or any number of other things that aren't easy to recognise 3) I don't believe for a second all the robots handing out drinks to people were completely autonomous. It's cool for a demo but I don't like when robotics companies deceive people about this type of stuff

[@ConradOPrice]

1. I guess it gets remote controlled by someone, same as Waymo. 2. You use a cloth like if you spilled drink on any other car. 3. Correct. Agreed it’s deceiving too.

[@ConradOPrice]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more deception than that e.g. Elon’s robotaxi was being controlled, and the robotaxi fleet were running a pre-planned route rather than being autonomous

[@michaelnurse9089]

They can teleoperate it out of the problem. Waymo does this.

[@jiggig]

1. Simple. If something goes wrong you have remove drivers. 2. Simple. One major messes the car goes to a human cleaner. This is very easy to detect with AI+Cameras. 3. The robots were not completely autonomous. This was made clear at the event. They had human help remotely with the most difficult tasks.

[@sassythesasquatch7837]

For everyone saying remote drivers. That would work for the ones owned by the company, but he announced people can buy them and own them for themselves. So what happens when one you own goes wrong?

[@ListenGRASSHOPPER]

The robovan also looks like early 50s toaster. Already nicknamed it the "Toaster" 😉

[@Limitless1717]

The robotoaster

[@sharpvidtube]

Twitter is toast, now he's toasting Tesla😂 Having a ride in a driverless toaster, with no windows and no floor clearance, doesn't appeal to me.

[@3thinking]

When the batteries catch fire, it will be.

[@femiadisalawal1473]

Stocks are down because he needs to stay away from politics😪,he is killing himself

[@Yewbzee]

Anyone with his kind of wealth and influence across multiple cutting edge fronts is by definition part of politics. All his companies are part of the huge industrial disruption that is coming. None of the shareholders will give a shit about his politics when Tesla is the largest company on the planet.

[@Yewbzee]

You need to learn a bit about how the stock market works and what moves price.

[@jimbojones8713]

lol stocks down because big players used the liquidity to get out, then they will buy the dip again

[@karlwest437]

​@@Yewbzeemaybe he does but Elon's politics are putting a lot of people off

[@sharpvidtube]

@@Yewbzee The short term price movements are meaningless, but I can't see Elon alienating the people that are most likely to buy EVs, working well. Good luck selling EVs to the ICE loving far right.

[@simpromovie]

You have to looks a little bit more behind the scenes. There will be no robotaxi without level 5 autonomy and Tesla is far away from this. The whole infrastructure and business model is missing too. Who should buy and operate these things? If it's only for uber customers this is a very small market. I don't think that many private persons will buy this. By the way: Optimus has nothing to do yet with AI. All the robots you saw are remotely operated from humans. This event shows what Musk can do best: Being a bullshit artist....

[@jeffsteyn7174]

The current fsd cost over 12k how's he going to build a car for 20k. Also he has a long history of faking progress. 2016 fsd. At the beginning of this year when he tried to insinuate that tesla bot was autonomously folding washing. Till someone called him out because they sore the hand of the guy controlling it. This guy is so full of.

[@sharpvidtube]

Isn't it a shame that so many people into tech, haven't worked this out yet? Or maybe they have, but they aren't being honest? Either way, I feel they need to do better and be far more sceptical.

[@BHBalast]

He talks a lot of bs but at the end of the day the hardware is there

[@HardKore5250]

2 chainz was in it

[@dpactootle2522]

Remember, the stock market is contrarian most of the time to screw over some traders, and then it corrects again. It is done 90% by AI algos anyway

[@Yewbzee]

One of the few sensible comments on here. This is spot on.

[@SmirkInvestigator]

There needs to be interior surveillance and ban offenders. I would like to take a taxi without feeling like I need to change my clothes again

[@WhoIsWess]

I just read all the comments and I find them surprising. I find his companies are doing so many things simultaneously and I would bet there is a compounding factor between all of these projects. Where one company focuses on a singular or small set of products, all of this tech will likely come together in inconceivable ways, like an AI autonomous infrastructure, all connected, including off planet. He just built the largest AI brain on the planet for example. Each product is going to create/have access to so much data, live streaming into the AI... Whether a single product is ready at this point or not seems irrelevant to me. There is a much larger picture unfolding. He has recommended a book series called The Culture Series by Iain M. Banks. Which I just looked up finally and believe his vision is largely based on. "The Culture Series by Iain M. Banks is a renowned collection of science fiction novels set in a post-scarcity universe known as the Culture. This society is characterized by its advanced technology, artificial intelligences (AIs), and a strong emphasis on individual freedom and ethical dilemmas arising from interactions with other civilizations."

[@mattpen7966]

No, a company doing too much at once is inefficient and burns money. Who cares about scifi book he recommends? You realize thats how he convinces you this shit works when it doesnt at all right? Hes selling you a dream thatll never come true. See FSD.

[@jeffsteyn7174]

😂 keep drinking that cool aid

[@harrycooper5231]

Yep, FSD will be here "next year." For sure THIS time!

[@alex_g_44]

largest AI brain on the planet? Living in an alternate reality? Reading too much science fiction novels?

[@chrisward000]

The Culture in Bank’s books is literally a liberal communist utopia - no money, no government, no laws, no religion, where race and gender are irrelevant because people can change their bodies at will. Couldn’t be further from the exploitative, racist, capitalist future Musk is promoting. His products only increase inequality between the have and have-nots, and his free-speech absolutism is limited to opinions he happens to agree with. If you are looking for a Sci-fi analogy, he’s more Baron Harkonnen.

[@danielhenderson7050]

The market was expecting something tangible, but instead it will be "before 2027" which means maybe before 2030. In the meantime nobody wants to buy a Tesla.

[@harrycooper5231]

Musk has been promising FSD "next year", every year, for over a decade. I'm betting .... never.

[@adnansaboticsings]

@@harrycooper5231 yeah we should have had mission on Mars four years ago if he was telling the truth in 2017

[@The_real_absentmindedgamer]

Now i understand why tesla shares moves the way they did

[@coolbanana165]

Because he lies all the time? He said the same things in 2017. Automation solved, robot taxis sold next year.

[@harrycooper5231]

@@coolbanana165 Actually he promised robotaxis in 2019. Said "next year" (2020) there would be over a million on the road, each with an almost 100% ROI Annualy. And that anyone who bought anything but a Tesla was a fool.

[@coolbanana165]

@@harrycooper5231 2017 might have been him just saying they had solved autonomous driving then. Which was a lie too.

[@sevilnatas]

California and Texas next year ??? They haven't even started the process to get Teslas certified for driverless operation ! Wamo has been certified for years and its only in specific areas in each state it is certified in.

[@harrycooper5231]

It's a grift. This will keep regulators off his behind for all the lies he's told about having FSD "next year" for the last decade.

[@sevilnatas]

@@harrycooper5231 true!

[@Darkt0mb5]

so where is his R2-D2 model?

[@notdeadyet-creative]

Elon Musk has long since destroyed any trust I had in him or his products.

[@dong9514]

Once you see it, you can not unsee it. Remember when he was going to put hyperloops in LA? All these tunnels, carts moving at super high speeds, getting across LA in minutes? Someone asked how much would he charge for this "about a dollar", How could that be true?

[@Steve-Richter]

Would help a lot if there were experts on KZbin who could explain why the stock went down.

[@jeffsteyn7174]

Because it was overvalued

[@Steve-Richter]

@@jeffsteyn7174 it was overvalued before the announcement. What underwhelmed about the product reveal? Maybe that production still 2 years away?

[@cole2839]

Because none of what he showed is anywhere close to reality. The robot was fake and operated by a person over a wireless connection. Most states do not allow driverless taxis. Oh and people don't trust Tesla self driving because it regularly kills people in the cars that have it.

[@harrycooper5231]

Because Musk has run this exact same grift before. In 2019 he promised robotaxis "next year" Said there would be millions on the road, each with an annual ROI of almost 100%.

[@byrnemeister2008]

@@Steve-RichterStill over valued by all rational metrics. No revenue from this coming anytime soon. Aging design of the volume models. Slowdown in adoption of EVs. Low priced competition from China. It’s a tough environment. Doesn’t help that the CEO spends most of his time on a hobby project. Tesla is failing through neglect.

[@francoislanctot2423]

Cool, but what about areas where there is snow in the winter season ?!

[@robbrown2]

I'm sure it will eventually be able to handle that, but in the meantime, we already have cars that do.

[@Wodawic]

Ok, so using the compute for other 'nodes' while idle if friggin brilliant.

[@michaelnurse9089]

Inference only though - can't use it for training.

[@marcusk7855]

The car and bus are straight out of IRobot. Where the robots take over the world.

[@AberrantArt]

I thought the EXACT same thing

[@secretsoffireband]

Jensen Huang must be like: "Whatever Mekon...but stop stealing my fashion style bro!"

[@MykolaDolgalov]

Tesla Roadster 2 was never delivered. And where the Tesla Semi? To your point that Tesla always delivers its concepts.

[@DannerBanks]

@@MykolaDolgalov Pepsi frito lay has a small fleet of tesla semis

[@JustinWestbrook-be1mp]

Found the Elon hater! Elon derangement syndrome

[@nustada]

@@JustinWestbrook-be1mp I just think it is odd they hate him so much they don't even bother looking up basic facts.

[@mattpen7966]

@@nustada where was he wrong? semi and roadsters are NOT being produced at volume. 20 trucks for frito/pepsi is not what musk promised; he promised truck fleets 😂

[@harrycooper5231]

Exactly like Trump, "concepts of plans".

[@collectivelogic]

Yaaaaaawnnnnnn... Enron executive right there. King Ponzi!!

[@borjonx]

Important to remember that all IT gets hacked(yes, Tesla has been compromised too) and he's talking about having humanoid robots in our houses that can/will eventually be hacked.

[@Luizfernando-dm2rf]

We already use PCs and smartphones with incredible amounts of sensitive data and very few people give 2 flying fucks about it(mainly people who are over-concerned or actually are important in the public eye for some reason).

[@Rnjeazy]

​@@Luizfernando-dm2rfExactly, you can't use any tech if you're worried about being hacked 24x7

[@I-Dophler]

Your world is your office, no need to ever go to an office again! The concept of RoboTaxis transforming into mobile offices is not just innovative but transformative, altering how we perceive workspaces. Imagine commuting while wrapping up a presentation or having a virtual meeting as you ride in comfort without the hassle of traffic or parking. This shift could redefine productivity and work-life balance, making every commute an opportunity to enhance efficiency or unwind. Truly, the lines between home, office, and transit are blurring into one seamless experience.

[@byrnemeister2008]

Amazon and Tesla will still require you to be in the office 5 days a week.

[@I-Dophler]

@byrnemeister2008 Absolutely, the evolution of office culture is taking an intriguing turn! Despite the allure of RoboTaxis transforming commutes into mobile offices, major companies like Amazon and Tesla still hold onto traditional workspace environments. It underscores the enduring appeal of face-to-face interactions and collaborative physical spaces, blending the old school with the futuristic-an eclectic and fascinating razmataz indeed!

[@ListenGRASSHOPPER]

That was Optimus in the space suit you can tell by the wave

[@cole2839]

Optimus was tele-operated by a person and a fake robot. LOL.

[@ListenGRASSHOPPER]

@@cole2839 you're ignorant. Don't watch maybe listen

[@michaelnurse9089]

Not steel - plastic, confirmed by those at the event.

[@ALFTHADRADDAD]

Embarrassing bro

[@robbrown2]

@@ALFTHADRADDAD why is that embarrassing? It's a prototype so it makes sense to use something like fiberglass for body panels because the dies that stamp body panels are incredibly expensive and you don't make those until you have a final design. whether or not they stick with some form of plastic is anyone's guesss, but I don't see why that would be a problem. Corvettes have used fiberglass for a long time and a lot of people think they're pretty cool

[@teebu]

gizmodo article: robots were remote controlled by humans, no AI. Also, the toaster bus was remote controlled.

[@harrycooper5231]

It was pretty obvious. Autonomously they can barely execute "shuffle slowly forward on a perfectly flat surface with no obstacles." After that pathetic demo we're supposed to believe suddenly they're interacting with people, playing at being a bartender serving drinks, etc.? Sure.

[@tbarsnessvfx]

The laser project would most likely be used to display the cars intent and to also signal to the client passenger some sort of verification to match up to your ride. I can imagine multiples of these pulling up to LAX and there being some issues identifying which ride is yours.

[@erikironsky3168]

Van life just got upgraded!!

[@fynnjackson2298]

So much more space without needing to drive. Can imagine how many cool builds would be possible inside a rovoven frame

[@sharpvidtube]

Downgraded, there are no windows, it looks like a toaster, there's no ground clarence and you can't check they tyres.

[@I-Dophler]

What we really need is more fog, lol! It seems to add that extra layer of mystique and cinematic quality to the demo. Watching the RoboTaxis glide through the smoke-filled streets of a recreated city not only enhances the visual appeal but also subtly underscores the futuristic vibe Elon is aiming for. It's like stepping into a sci-fi film where the boundaries between reality and imagination blur-definitely adds to the cool factor of the entire event!

[@TheSpeedyEMO]

The only issue I have with this demo was the fact that they tele operated a quite a substantial amount of the optimus showcasing(you could tell there was a real person interacting with the guests). Besides that it was still interesting to watch tho theres gonna be so much progress in the coming months so I doubt it’ll take too long at to get there at this pace. Overall 8/10

[@harrycooper5231]

My favourite was when his robots barely managed to execute "shuffle slowly forward on a perfectly flat surface without any obstacles." Only about 20 years behind in the tech there. And then they used haptic suits to remotely control the robots for their interactions with people, again 20 years behind in the tech. Finally the dancing, just pre-programmed movements, 30 years behind in the tech. What have they been doing at Tesla, a couple of first year university students with Lego Mindstorm would have accomplished as much.?

[@yak-machining]

Where was this filmed? Is this a city for movies?

[@PrincessBeeRelink]

This was a very showy fluff'd event, we will see what reality unveils.

[@bobtivnan]

It seems strange that Matt refers to it as an '80s' style car. It was an actual car model called the DeLorean. It wasn't a sci-vision of the Back to the Future creators.

[@YTad2]

Lamborghini had them too.

[@13thbiosphere]

doors are predominantly designed as a marketing strategy to stand out in the crowd

[@JetSurfingNation]

What if it slips and falls on top of a child or a pet? Why do they have to be human size and heavy

[@torarinvik4920]

The problem is that AVs won't be fully functional util it has some sort of general intelligence. It needs to be able to handle all edge cases if it's going to work under all condition, in all countries. It needs to handle rain, snow, ice, dirt, rocks, kids or animals trying to cross the road and so much more.

[@dxmissile]

toasterbus

[@michamohe]

Can you imagine all of the data they are going to be able to gather as well?

[@harrycooper5231]

Of what, crappy Tesla drivers? They're one of the most accident prone groups by car ownership out there.

[@Sven_Dongle]

Notice how they always test these things in sunny, flat, environments like TX and CA? Never in wintry blizzard mountainous terrain.

[@robbrown2]

Kind of like all technology. For instance, steam engines were first used in factories. It was only later that they tried to put them on moving vehicles like trains and ships. Then they put them on steam shovels, which were enormous machines great for digging canals, but they weren't like a modern compact backhoe that you can easily roll into somebody's backyard. Something doesn't need to solve all problems to be useful and have an impact.

[@haqk4583]

That is how new technology is typically deployed. It provides opportunity to iron out bugs before moving onto harsher environments. You would be an idiot to deploy in the most challenging environment first.

[@harrycooper5231]

There weren't any "tests". Everything was remote controlled, from the cars to the robots to the bus.

[@richardrispoli4508]

I really loved it when you said, 'let's just assume it'll work out.' I like your style! It's kind of nostalgic-it strangely reminds me of the bad guys in the first Star Wars I watched when I was a kid. The style of those taxis is impressively cool, and I love seeing the future arrive sooner rather than later. Thanks for the content, Matthew! 😊

[@Tetsujinfr]

I think the "effect" on the front of the car might be a feature no? It looks like texture projection, can be very helpful to locate the car in its surounding with great precision, plus detecting depth of close by objects/obstacles, under low light conditions, and still using cameras, as opposed to Lidar to that purpose. If it s just for the show that would be cool but disappointing too.

[@anamarjanovic4759]

So cool. I think the phrase to describe this style is retro-futurism

[@danielreborn4707]

Robo van needs futuristic roads without pot holes 😂

[@desmond-hawkins]

"Next year for sure, we will have over a million robotaxis on the road." - Elon Musk, *October 21, 2019.* They have a well-documented habit of faking their robot demos (lots of debunk videos about them on KZbin), and there's little doubt among people who actually know anything about self-driving that they're _nowhere near_ the level of companies like Waymo and Cruise. Not even close. Apart from lacking any windows and ground clearance, what actual innovations are coming with this bus?

[@harrycooper5231]

Musk made the tragically stupid and cheap decision not to use sensors or LIDAR. He's never catching up in FSD, doubt if he's even trying to. He's just doing to absolute minimum to avoid getting thrown in jail for lying to pump up the value of Tesla stock.

[@styx1272]

Mat , a good thumbnail might be to form the simulation of binoculars with 2 closed fists.

[@bensouthall6705]

It’s all smoke and mirrors, again.

[@mjk9388]

Just like the Falcon 9.

[@chrisbraeuer9476]

Again, again.

[@drkastenbrot]

it will be 20 or 30k just like the cybertruck

[@Yewbzee]

Bro ok so you have an agenda against him, that’s fine but craft your response a bit better than that. You just make yourself look dumb as fuck. The guy is involved in the most difficult cutting edge industries on multiple fronts and has made massive progress in all of them. If you want to criticise him put a bit of thought into it, he definitely has many faults you can go after other than your benign “smoke and mirrors” crap. It’s blatantly way off the mark and just points to your anti-Musk agenda which is never a good look.

[@mav3818]

​@@mjk9388...or the Falcon Heavy

[@Tetsujinfr]

The future of being in a cybercab: " you can have meeting, you can eat, you can have a nap, you can read a book" yeap ... and you can die there too 😅

[@dungalunga2116]

My favorite bit was when the robots came out of the van

[@crashwelder5337]

So he eliminates taxi drivers and bus drivers. The creepy robot eliminates Maids caregivers housekeepers Etc... that's a chunk of society that has lost a job. Without a Ubi how is this portion of people supposed to make money and therefore afford his new gadgets? Leon doesn't care he just wants to sit atop his throne make money and let the minions die in a fiery death inside his rolling coffins. He refuses to admit the accidents that happened with Tesla vehicles now do you think he's going to acknowledge when a robotic bus decides to wrap itself around the telephone pole killing 20 people? Leon is the richest tool on the planet and you could not pay me to get into one of his vehicles

[@ianhaylock7409]

Can't see the service station fixing slashed seats and removing graphitti spray painted over the inside of the car. Not to mention people crapping in the car, good luck getting rid of the smell. Why would someone invest in this instead of just being someone who hires the car?

[@nufh]

It's more like, if you own a car, you also own a server that you can use to host and earn some money while it's parked and unused?

[@JasonicAus]

how long until the bus becomes called the Cybersnail?

[@AceNallawar]

When elon says 'in one year' you know you are in a multi decade ride already. On a side note, I am here in zambia travelling. And people here put there car on uber-like apps, because they have a driver who will drive everyone and gets a salary. And the owner makes the money off of running a one car taxi service. And you dont even need a 30 thousand dollar car, you can do this in a 3 thousand dollar car also and earn money when you dont need the ride. Benefits of this is the driver will actually keep your car according to your wishes, self driving cars will be as clean as a public restroom and as dirty as a motel bedsheet. Also self driving is not a solved problem, so this comparison is just imaginary lmao

[@jime9243]

As an elederly guy, i can see me having one of these in the retirement home. That is a very real market. "Alexa get me a beer"🧙‍♂🤕

[@jelliott3604]

Is everything going to cost .. 20-30k in the future?

[@xerox782]

Regarding the stock fall, I was surprised as well. Like people complained there was not enough solid data and deadlines? It was suppose to be show, not a a power point presentation with charts and tables. Solid data is suppose to be presented at Earning days. Another argument I hear, is that "other" companies do the same thing and are better... like cmon. I did not see anyone else doing the same thing + having the capacity. If Optimius wont make it to homes, well they can just work in Giga factories making cars. It's not like Tesla will go bankrupt just cause one portion of the products did not turn out as they expected. Teslas and Space X scope is huge. If someone is going to deliver the future, it will be them. Space X and Tesla were considered crazy ideas in the beginning doomed to fail... but they didn't, and instead delivered stuff that nobody else could till now. + Some people complain the Optimus is remotely controlled. Personally I don't care. For me the real wonder is the walking robot, and if it is remotely controlled, that it self is a huge thing. All other remotely controlled robots are huge, bulky and require wire connection. This is all wireless and slim.

[@kneelesh48]

Robotaxi is not so different from a bus. You don't have to drive either way. Why don't people take the bus now?

[@jdholbrook33]

A home robot for $20,000 to $30,000 ?? Never sell. Who can afford that much for something that cleans and maybe does your laundry? Better to sell them to business owners to replace employees. I would pay that much for a worker that never was late, bad mood, ego etc.. I might need 2 or 3 of them.

[@Steve-Richter]

I do not understand why it will take do long for the robo taxi to be produced. Tesla has been working on it for two years now.

[@WG-tt6hk]

Maybe I'm old school, but there is no way in hell I would get into something that is not under the control of a human. As far as the robots are concerned .......... I'll be back.

[@robbrown2]

So you don't take elevators since they switched over to automated operation? It seems like what you look at is the statistics, and if the cars are statistically safer, I would most certainly use that over a human driver. if I simply based things on my own intuition rather than actual statistics, I'd never get in an airplane because that just seems ridiculous to have a metal tube thousand feet in the air. But I can look at the statistics and see that it's pretty safe.

[@jelliott3604]

If it's anything like the autopilot on my Tesla it'll drive down the road clipping every wingmirror on the way and then pull in behind a parked car and sit there indefinitely, waiting for it to drive off

[@YTad2]

The fact that it’s not 4 door is a mistake. Elon made a mistake by not having the van model show up and have Noland Arbaugh roll out in his power chair. What should be produced, is a Chevette, Pony or original basic Honda Civic version of a Tesla. Something around $12,000. I am a quadriplegic and use a power wheelchair… I don’t need something the size of a camper. Just big enough for a large wheelchair and 1 able bodied person.

[@YTad2]

Actually, even the robots should have been shown helping somebody like myself. Elon is not as bright as you think he is. Even better, Noland controlling a robot to open a beer, give cheers move to the crowd and pour it in Noland’s mouth.🍻

[@Otis151]

Next we should make some kind of cyber police officer.

[@lpanebr]

17:00 "everyone in the world owning a 20 thousand dollars robot" is a bit of a stretch. 😂😂😂

[@sharpvidtube]

How do they stopped drunks and people who never wash using these? Who cleans up the sick and fumigates them? That's if the Tesla FSD is ever going to work, we've had so many years hearing it will be reedy "soon". A minibus, with no floor clearance, no windows and taking that long for people to get out, doesn't do it for me.

[@IchiOne-b4u]

Those are butterfly doors, scissor doors go straight up (dorque).

[@deadchannel127]

All I see here is a concept being sold, nothing tangible. There isn't even a discussion about how it will work or what tech it will use. If I want to use an autonomous car today, I can take a Waymo-and at least I know the technology behind that.

[@DaveHammondDublin]

The boy who cried Musk. 30k. Before 2027. Ok.

[@rebokfleetfoot]

well, this guy, he has a track record, about 2 in 10 of his ideas work out.... which is not bad

[@d.d.jacksonpoetryproject]

Did anyone confirm whether those robots were operating completely autonomously? It sounded like there was a human being speaking from them remotely perhaps?

[@heartyfisher]

The feet and walking was autonomous .. parts of the actions( dances ) were autonomous/scripted. The interactions were tele-operated by humans..

[@petermsamson]

This is the reason why we leave car styling to Mercedes-Benz

[@matthewvanderveer8812]

Let me know when regulators approve it even though it doesn’t have lidar.

[@jelliott3604]

"Let's just assume it will all work out" ... why?

[@Eve_IntuitiveAcademic]

Looks dangerous with no glass for emergency escape

[@noway8233]

The CyberToaster😅

[@transcendencemediallc3845]

Seems like this is a huge part why he's intensely supporting Trump's presidential bid - to shape tailored regulatory-shortcuts for realizing his 'dreams'

[@cmiguel268]

If Elon thinks I'm going to lend my cybercab, after twenty years waiting for it and selling a lung to buy it, to a bunch a drunkards to vomit in it, he is greatly mistaken. The cybercab is mine and that's the end !

[@something-kq2fw2pn5m]

I'm really looking forward for Robo-Avatars

[@Tetsujinfr]

One has to admit, Musk and his gang has a talent to organise such demos/event. That is real bold, impressive, and quite likely misleading to a good extent. He is now probably planning to deploy his Optimus brigades around the capitol to help his new buddy Trump secure the next election? ...

[@RDOTTIN]

The haters are so mad that Tesla made all the stuff they said was impossible. People actually used them and they are still denying its real.🤣

[@nickrobbins7704]

I don't know what would you really need it for honestly think of 10 different things for me... you can't can you?? So that's why this won't work out for general consumers but for industries this will be phenomenal

[@DorianRodring]

You keep saying looks like futuristic from the past but who’s to say that’s not still what futuristic now is? What does someone from present day think it should like? They don’t. Everyone just thinks cars should look like glossy beans still and nobody changes anything. It’s called aesthetics. There is a reason they had artists working on the designs for movies throughout history.

[@frosty2912]

it transports other people, a cool idea, but people are jerks and will vandalize your car or spill food / drinks in it, potentially break stuff, abuse it. See nothing but issues.

[@karlwest437]

People will be covering the cameras and immobilising them

[@etunimenisukunimeni1302]

It's like the meme about stories, but this it's "cool demo, bro" sceptical about anything, err, that musky, but I won't be surprised if he happens to turn it into a success

[@cablegrinch]

Great episode! Many things are becoming possible, and it’s just the beginning. 👍

[@scottdenny2281]

You're in a Johnny Cab! lol

[@asherplotnik]

the reason the market didnt like it is that nothing he showed was new technology. we new about optimus. the fsd is still not complete. robo taxies and teslas basically have same functionality so now real new innovation there. the promis that regulation will allow fsd unsupervised next year that is definitely good news but not sure at all. there wasn't a wow moment the market was expecting.

[@JustinWestbrook-be1mp]

Fsd looked complete to me!

[@asherplotnik]

@@JustinWestbrook-be1mp i wish. no joking. i really do, but I hear from people who use it that they still need to intervene.

[@syberkitten1]

yeah, i cannot unsee the ease of hacking and weaponizing these Things when ever there is a need to + you don't know what else is installed there or even what is it's intent in any given moment, this is creepy .

[@TheAIPivot]

Imagine paying for a car and it drives away when it thinks it should 🤔

[@Otis151]

I can just imagine the mess strangers will leave in my cyber taxi. Lol. Cool idea though. Maybe this could be resolved over time with some kind of rating system for both passengers and owners.

[@WillBeebe]

It looked a bit different to me on X, but such a great show.

[@jameswestgate416]

The guy who wants to put a robot in everyone’s living room and driveway also talks about November being the last free election … okehhhhy no thanks

[@vaibhavpal3783]

What a cherry picking of metrics, A bus can carry 50plus people thats what makes it viable

[@heartyfisher]

There are millions of mini buses all over the world what are you talking about ?

[@fynnjackson2298]

Excellent event. So cool seeing how fast things are being developed. A few years is no time at all. Future is going to legit AWESOME!!