Book/Game Geralt Meets Netflix Geralt

[@jurassickoonce6951]

That "I don't wanna be Geralt anymore..." My poor heart.

[@DiamondAppendixVODs]

What hurts the most is that Henry actually made a really good Geralt. He tried Sadly, he was the only one who did

[@syedarizvi7290]

that made me sad

[@KlutzyNinjaKitty]

@@DiamondAppendixVODs - On the bright side, now that Cavill's free from the hellish Witcher and Superman crews, he's working on being executive producer for a Warhammer 40K adaptation! (Which is another franchise he loves.)

[@grodcoyote6635]

@@KlutzyNinjaKitty the best part is that since he's executive producer he has direct power over the writers about how faithful they have to be, and that is alongside how protective Warhammer itself tends to be of their Source material

[@Washeek]

Not protective enough sadly, or rather as far as I know, they've kind of been putting people through hoops by giving them partial licenses, so then the creators of original works tend to deviate more from the source, because they don't have license to use parts of the setting. A bit similar thing that happened to rings of power. So yes, if a show is done directly for WG and they are not selling the license to somebody then cool, but then you also get budget constraints. Oh and let's not forget that atrocious animated movie... One of their best writers on it and it was terribad.

[@AkimboJV]

Respect to Henry for walking away from Netflix. He actually cared.

[@lawsen3719]

wasn't he fired?

[@vlogverse6900]

​@@lawsen3719no he wasn't fired

[@-GHOST--ci4ho]

​@@lawsen3719no he told them if they stick with source material he will do it least 6 seasons but in season 3 he quits and told people he has others things but people know its bullshit because he loved the game and books of witcher.

[@miragemain105]

@@-GHOST--ci4hoI’d quit too, it’s the same shit as the Halo show, the writers either hate the source material or don’t know shit about it, leads to what we see, nobody liked it, Henry was good but that can only take a show soo far, I respect him leaving, I would too no matter how much I would be paid to stay, money ain’t worth ruining your favourite things over

[@connorgillispie7128]

@@lawsen3719🤓🤓🤓

[@Crusthide]

that's actually the nightmare Henry had before he resigned from the role XD

[@andy91218]

what a nightmare. To get paid millons of dollars for a bad adaptation of a novel you kind of like. Hopefully he can make it through.

[@ItsHorizonz]

@@andy91218 Man stfu. We don’t get paid millions to be fans and they shit all over Sapkowski’s work. He’s as big a fan as anyone else.

[@jacobgame2757]

@@andy91218 Paid to destroy what he loves

[@andy91218]

I think he said he likes The Witcher, but still, a nightmare? There are a lot of nightmares in life, but being payed an incredible amount of money to do something you don't fully like is not one of them. People here tend to exaggerate a lot.

[@Hirek_G]

@@andy91218 What he earned from this show is probably nothing compared to his previous ones. Besides, there are things people care about more than money. Probably Henry wanted to be a part of something he loved, but what could be called a nightmare came true, and instead of satisfaction he received woe.

[@vanyadolly]

Geralt is such a wonderfully complex character in the books. Eloquent, too, and way more emotional than he pretends to be. I wish he'd do more than grunt and growl in the show.

[@ТАДАМ-ю4ж]

Also he not neutral at all he always helping his friends and actually cares about people

[@drogadepc]

​@@ТАДАМ-ю4жhe used to be neutral but then decided he couldn't be anymore.

[@Sick_Sara]

@@ТАДАМ-ю4ж I mean the whole point of the "Lesser Evil" story is that Geralt can't be neutral, because if he doesn't make a choice, it will be made/forced on him by the actions of others.

[@One.Zero.One101]

Also the series portrays Geralt as serious all the time. In the games Geralt is more deadpan and sarcastic.

[@kingt0295]

Yeah the witchers don’t have emotions nonsense is a propaganda tool made up by people that hate Witchers to dehumanise them. They’re stripped of emotion in the sense they witnessed half 7/10 of their friends die next to them in the trials. They’re still people tho and get on with their lives

[@satinizer8021]

one of the things i also disliked about the series is Geralt's and Jaskier's relationship. in the books and games, sure, Geralt was sometimes annoyed by Jaskier, but he liked him and cared about him. the series made them basically Shrek and Donkey, but somehow worse

[@rubenlopezusa]

and bi-sexual

[@CableAnna]

Shrek and Donkey 😆

[@stereotypespecialist]

You mean Shrek and gay donkey. The gay part is very important to Netflix.

[@theredeyther7502]

Jeskier was one of Gerald’s only true friends. Sure Eskel Vesemir and Lambert are his friends but Jeskier was really the first person he came across on his travels and became friends with. Gerlalt May sometimes act like he wants to kill him but they genuinely are friends.

[@maries.860]

yes! i was so shocket when geralt hit him in the first season. book geralt would never do that to him right?

[@ariyasf5130]

"I don't wanna be geralt anymore" this was literally cavils reaction to those writers who actually hated witcher

[@PhilGerb93]

Yes, that's the joke, good job bud

[@astral230]

at least he isn't being forced to do another few seasons, thankfully... :(

[@Артур-ю2о7щ]

Thats why he was in 3 seasons? He doesn't see what shit is scenario?rofl,he doesnt care about that,he just cares about money

[@Obi-wan5991]

@@Артур-ю2о7щ he fought and argued with them, until they kept making it worse. So he left. If it was about money then why not I don't know stay and make more money if it's just about that.

[@Артур-ю2о7щ]

@@Obi-wan5991 he saw scenario so just stop trying to say that cavill love witcher universe.He saw all dat bullshit ,but keeps casting untill the end of 3rd season

[@PiLuLyArus]

Masterpiece! I agree with the whole premise. How could you fuck it up so badly, it is like they hated the source material or something... oh wait...

[@OrangeDragon04]

- Henry Cavil left the group chat

[@korpakukac]

There are 911 likes on this comment. Coincidence? I think not. #IgniMeltsSteamBeams

[@OrangeDragon04]

@@korpakukac 916 not even 3 minutes after you said this.

[@abyssalblade7244]

@@korpakukac mate wtf

[@stalkervalley]

I said it on a different comment but somehow I really enjoyed the show. Since I never played the game or read the books I thought it was fine. Just really shows that if you let the source material go you can enjoy adaptations far more.

[@Lysvsyl]

It's funny how mainstream media adaptions tend to turn everyone into selfish miserable pricks. They want to make everything so "realistic" and "relatable" that the fantasy becomes no longer desirable. The world of the witcher is horrible with monsters, famine, disease and curses. Yet the genuinely good, sympathetic characters with a good heart still made it something to enjoy, a world where hapiness can be found. The conclusion of the actor sumarrises it perfectly. Netflix have perfectly created a world with no redeemable qualities.

[@DiamondAppendixVODs]

Maybe the creators of the show are/only interacted with, selfish miserable procks, and can't grasp the concept of genuinely good, sympathetic characters

[@alexandrejosue9925]

Not everyone, specially white males

[@rando6836]

@@DiamondAppendixVODs bingo

[@Deuteromis]

​@@DiamondAppendixVODs Yup, look it up, the head writers didn't care or really know the books too well. Also doesn't help that they made fun of Henry.

[@mathieumarlaire]

"In a world filled with death, pain and misery, humanity still finds the capacity to do good" Hollywood: "no"

[@crashboredom2]

This is the actual conversation Henry Cavil had with himself in the mirror when he decided to quit.

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

lmaoooo

[@bogdanjamal1703]

Hmm mirror? you mean Master Mirror?

[@crashboredom2]

@bogdanjamal1703 master mirror? You mean G.O.D.? Gaunter O' Dim?

[@bogdanjamal1703]

@@crashboredom2 Do you really wish to know?

[@crashboredom2]

​@@bogdanjamal1703 No. Let's play some Gwent.

[@eyoshinthemaximum]

It sucks because Henry was so good for the role, and cared so much about it. I know some disagree but I think he really grew into it

[@fungusmoon]

The issue is that the Geralt in the show is literally nothing like the Geralt in the books. They have more or less zero similarities. So he was already playing a shitty, made-up version of a character.

[@Hjartulv]

Geralt in the games also nothing like in the books.

[@deadnorth8648]

​@@Hjartulv not as far off as Netflix

[@Mindgoblin5]

The actor of yennifer said that also "No one fits the role better" then Henry

[@tymondabrowski12]

@@Mindgoblin5 Yeah but actress of Yennefer doesn't fit Yennefer either. She should look and behave more like Tissaia does - with more grace. They learn it in school (they're gonna advice kings, ffs), and by that point she was already pretty old, too.

[@RainWelsh]

“Eskel is alive and well right now. As well as he can be with that face.” Outstanding Absolutely love the game-accurate hand gestures from Game Geralt, btw, great attention to detail

[@Mr.Pro55k]

Yup! Game Geralt is cool and all good but Netflix Geralt is sometimes too harsh😁😁

[@BlazingFire9]

@@BFNH459 sadly i havent played the game or books but i really love the idea of the witcher being a movie/series so i hope they can make it more book/video games accurate since i think that will be way better and badass and fun as heck.

[@justart4264]

And Eskel is avery neutral and likable character, they fckd him up on the show

[@DickDarkie]

"not about to take your word for it"

[@omardiegorodriguezcastillo3132]

​@@justart4264 Yeah, all the witchers where actually likeable. They act like brothers... because they are the only family they know, not a bunch of jerks thath share work and get pissed because "ah, you ger it easy" They care for each other enought to be gratefull to see them alive in Kaer Morhen every winter, because they know any day could be the last time they see each other, and would never know what happend to them

[@noaccount4]

It's telling how sharply the quality drops the moment they go off book. Don't know why these writers bother to write for projects they hate... Could always just write something they actually enjoy for a change

[@xKessa]

Why are they adapting something, that they change so much, it becomes unrecognizable? Every single book adaptation suck because it has changed too much from original source... Can't they make their own IPs?

[@hexcodeff6624]

@@xKessa "Can't they make their own IPs?" and risk a bunch of money on an unproven franchise? Fuck no. There will be a good witcher adaptation in the future, don't worry

[@nicolaim4275]

I'm guessing they take the job for the money. The real issue is the people hired them without vetting how competently they could use the story. It is likely just the typical problem of office politics.

[@iwankazlow2268]

@@hexcodeff6624 But they sink a bunch of money for the IP, then duck it up. When they duck up the source material and call all fans to duck off if they don't like their "reimagination" they could just go the original IP route. But I know, the intent is not to make something new or make money, it's to subvert and destroy as it's all evil can do.

[@hexcodeff6624]

@@iwankazlow2268 That's a pretty cringe take. This isn't about someone trying to attack you, the "real fan". This is people in a studio interested in selling more of their product (visual media) by using already existing IP. The priorities are the problem, not the intentions.

[@blackshard641]

"We need to make this dramatic somehow. Ciri's life needs to be in danger." "Well, Ciri from the books is naïve and impetuous when she's young. Maybe she disobeys Geralt and unwittingly puts herself in danger?" "No, no, that's way too close to the whole princess-in-peril trope, and worse, it sets her up for a character arc. We can't have that. Oh! I know! Let's make one of her surrogate parents, the one who hunts monsters for a living, put her in harm's way because *nothing* else will work, while the other actively tries to kill her for selfish reasons."

[@koobapl]

She IS in danger for the most of the books, so they didn't need to invent anything. They should just fucking stick to it.

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

I feel like if they went with that people would complain and when she did get her character development they would say “see they finally fixed her after listening to us” Not saying I disagree I just know I’ll have to see that again

[@slice6298]

That actually was in the show? This sounds so off

[@chadmwilliams89]

@@lastchips7638 You get it. The reason boomer execs and producers go along with gen-x and millennial SJW nonsense on these projects isn't because they have the same politics. It's because what SJW's want to do is easier and cheaper. They'd both make every show slice of life with queer relationship drama as the only conflict if they could get away with it.

[@justanotheropossumchannel]

I think her biggest moment was wandering the desert and finding out shed lost her fire magic.

[@lavendersblue2580]

Lately I’ve been reading Blood of Elves and listening to the Sword of Destiny on Audible ,,,, I’ve come to the conclusion that Geralt is actually a really kind person who is constantly capable of mercy and compassion to the people who really need it, tells his kid not to swear, humors people he doesn’t like because he still has manners, and would help a sick woman do her business in the bushes because he’s just Like That. I feel bad for Henry Cavill because he undoubtedly came to the same conclusions I did and still was given so little to work with from the writers of the Netflix show.

[@fabienherry6690]

And he is also from a long line of tortured mutant that is on the decline and is torned between his will to never let what happened to him befall on another innocent personne and the dreadful fear of who he is , the witchers and their memory to disappear in the never ending wave of "progress". That why he would not even listen to the barmaid being like "oh can i pleeaaaaase be a witcher to" He is torn between his constant brush against fate and prophecy and his nihilisme about it. His entire relation with ciri and even yenefer is one of fate and prophecy made but then denied because "i don't believe in prophecy" (hell even the few thing we know about his mother is tied to fate and prophecy). That what make the world vibrant because we see it on a knife edge between technology and mystisim between fate and personnal choice ect ect

[@Friday_WasTaken]

The audio books ade amazing. Just been getting my brother into them. Are you listening to the ones that where 'translated from polish my denusia stock / david french and Read by peter kenny'? :P

[@lavendersblue2580]

@@Friday_WasTaken yes, I am! Just finished Time Of Contempt and moving onto Baptism of Fire!

[@Friday_WasTaken]

@@lavendersblue2580 have you done the short stories so? Last wish and sword of destiny?

[@lavendersblue2580]

@@Friday_WasTakenyup, I’ve read them both!

[@ZEBRACOW13]

It’s crazy how the writers took an epic fantasy tale and spun it into a lifeless drama. The animated Netflix movie was more gripping than the entire 3 seasons of the show.

[@sp00kyd4ddy6]

I was so excited to see grand views and some of my favorite monsters out in their habitat. We got got about 5 minutes of that and the rest is yapping and drama. Sucks to see

[@WafflezDay]

Which is saying a lot because I didn't like that, either.

[@RK-ej1to]

The wig half assed on Liam Hemsworth was the cherry on top

[@TheCursedCat1927]

And the Australian Accent that we will 100% hear in his performance for Season 4. In Trailers of course, because it's not like anyone will actually watch the Show after Season 3...

[@SassyTHC]

This is why I hate portals was the cherry on top of the cherry

[@ZinoAmare]

I stopped after 2

[@minerman60101]

I feel so bad for Henry Cavill; he does such a good Superman and Geralt but the writing ruins everything. Can't he catch a break for once?

[@inyalgaico1563]

Actually season 1 and 2 are pretty solid you seen them? just cause lore aspects are different does not mean its wrong. Its just a narrative retelling interpretation of an origional tale. The video is the show how when you think its bad it can really far worse

[@minerman60101]

@@inyalgaico1563 I saw season 1 before reading the books, season 2 after. Season 2 was frankly insulting; they just threw out the story from the books and decided to tell their own, far worse story. To give one example, Yennifer should be a mother figure to Ciri and yet in the show she's just a complete asshole to her.

[@inyalgaico1563]

@@minerman60101 Yeah true that was pretty dumb

[@secuter]

There's so much idiotic stuff going on in the series. It's straight up unwatchablw if you've read the books/played the games

[@Taveren]

​@@inyalgaico1563 there is something despicable in my mind, about screenplay writers working on shows based on beloved fantasies series, deem themselves better then the original writers, and deciding that their ideas and concepts are more worthy of screen time. Its insulting to the original writers. See Wheel of time, Rings of Power, The Witcher. Hell even other fantasy worlds from different mediums such as halo, Marvel, and Star Wars. There is something insulting in implying that the original writers work is offensive in some way and must be altered or changed regarding; the fundamental rules of the world, characterizations and the worlds Lore. They want to have the freedom to use the world as a sandbox, they want to change things and play with things and alter things to their heart content. They wish to inject their own personal themes and ideas and replace the original themes and ideas. They want to make their own fantasy world but are too lazy or uncreative to do so. These are not people wanting to make fan fiction, the result is bad fan fiction as a result of them, not failing to understand the original concepts, but rather understand them and being bothered or disinterested in them. Its disgusting how its propagated itself so thoroughly through Hollywood

[@BAS69420]

jesus, I never knew the netflix series got it THAT wrong

[@eStecko]

Sadly, that's just icing on the cake.

[@mda187]

There's a google doc somewhere and a reddit thread that shows all the things that are different. It's rather long (tried to link but comment got deleted).

[@koobapl]

It's basically "Geralt and Ciri goes to Kaer Morhen.." and that's it. That's the end of adaptation. Rest of the season 2 is fan fic (and NOT a good one). They use names of characters and places and that's IT. Not one plot point from the books. Characters are completely different. Relations between them completely wrong. This list of diffrences on reddit are basicly scene by scene summary of the show. It's a dumpster fire.

[@ronaldood4678]

Ya got no idea. Every episode even from season 1 alters the story completely. Adaption is one thing, it borders on awful fan fic.

[@ericv00]

@@ronaldood4678 I thought it was understood that it isn't even "fan" fic. It's just fic.

[@Zeddyboi86]

That was hilarious when game Geralt said, “Correct….. so far.” That’s probably every fan’s reaction when they get something SORTA right in movie or TV adaptations of games they love. 🤣

[@piotrt4786]

"Game Geralt"? Where is he?

[@LZMP60]

​@@piotrt4786the one dressed in white

[@stanislawbien5368]

Thats a book adaptation not game adaptation lol

[@leviathan903]

​@@stanislawbien5368maybe read the title of the video "book/game"

[@nochancewithoutpasta7637]

"I am Master Chief Petty Officer Spartan 117." Correct...so far... "I take off my helmet frequently, and I'm completely betraying the UNSC." Aight, I'm out.

[@NuttyBBX]

Bro actually nailed Geralts speech pattern and habits from the game

[@kikosawa]

Really? I thought he didn't even try to.

[@Pir-o]

They got soooo many things wrong... No wonder that Henry Cavil quit the show. And in return the writers created a smear campaign where they called him a "toxic gamer similar to QAnon" just because he cared about the lore and tried to warn them

[@lunerlilly]

I just find it funny they think they can actually smear him. No one believes their BS. And why would anyone when they admitted to hating the sorce material. He's going to be successful, then they will call us all toxic because we don't like their garbage.

[@NotSaddamHussein]

@@lunerlilly So, basically the whole shitshow about star wars new trilogy all over again? xDDDDDDDDDDD

[@lunerlilly]

@@NotSaddamHussein yes where the only good thing out of that crap was the two storm troopers noping out 😂.

[@hazukichanx408]

Jeezus. Don't think I ever got around to watching season 2... and I really liked season 1. Well, not crazy about the part where Geralt snaps at Jaskier for, essentially, having a streak of bad luck which partially rubs off on Geralt. But hearing all of this makes me not want to watch the rest... and that whole story makes me think Henry was right on the money for quitting. And they smear him? WTF?

[@yuin3320]

That's hilarious. If they actually tried to smear him, I somehow missed it entirely. I wonder how many other people haven't even heard of that. I really hope nobody gave it the time of day, and just let the idiots keep burning all bridges in the industry, stewing in their own miserable shit.

[@Rhystic_Buddy]

The danger they put Ciri through in the show is completely unforgivable. Terrible foster parenting.

[@acekoala457]

Definitely worse in the books

[@lowkey6134]

@@acekoala457 what how

[@justrandomguy5010]

@@acekoala457 Geralt and Yen sacrificing EVERYTHING for their daughter's wellbeing is terrible, amirite

[@KanohiVahi]

@@lowkey6134 Surprise surprise they don't reply xd

[@brayerkh]

@@acekoala457Have you even read the books? Ciri is constantly being hunted and Geralt and Yen are always trying to find her, help her, or save her. They never once used her as bait or put her in danger just for the sake of it.

[@runningking1317]

Loved that last line by tv Geralt. Every episode, I wondered how mad Henry Cavil must have been to act out scenes he knew were contrary to Geralt’s actual character.

[@twinzzlers]

What was it?

[@riotbae_9000]

Its why he played Geralt so well - he had that heartfelt aversion to all the onjustice around him

[@Synthia17]

And then he had to promote it and talk how good it is too, it was probably hard to sleep at night after.

[@TheCursedCat1927]

@@Synthia17 Considering the fact that he actually liked the way Seasoj 1 was, he was likely more than okay with promoting it. Hell went loose in Season 2, and in its interviews you can hear the promotion is quite forced on him.

[@Synthia17]

@@TheCursedCat1927 Season 1 sure had its fair share of problems, especially to those who know what's gonna happen to some of the places and characters they used, writers sure don't. But it was still salvageable. It's not anymore and I hope netflix will just cancel it before they get their hands on characters like Regis, Cahir is already beyond saving and from what I read about Milva, seems like she'll be mistreated too.

[@Alirezarz62]

Henry actually turned down easy money and cared for the fans and the story hats off he deserves all the respect

[@callmesep9530]

Wasn't he fired..

[@Arekkizu]

@@callmesep9530 No, he left on his own

[@kikosawa]

No easy money. Acting isn't easy, it's a job. Don't see how playing Geralt is any easier than anyone else

[@seveng7120]

"This is why I hate portals." So accurate! This is pure gold!

[@RoleCrow]

Honestly Yen putting Ciris life at risk is the most unbelievable part lol Ciri has never refered ro Geralt as her dad even tho obviously she does feel he is, but she has called Yen "Mom" a lot, she literally got her body completly destroyed by Vilgefortz trying to find Ciri while Geralt was in Toussaint chillin, so yeah this is just a Momma Yen apreciation comment

[@AaSs-ln9mm]

Not really unbelievable. Just reread how much Yen care about her safety BEFORE she suddenly decide to find Ciri (it was in last book i belive). (spoiler alert - she didnt care).

[@texasfuneral4787]

@@AaSs-ln9mm for real, she wanted and was about to turn Ciri over to Emyr and Ciri called her out over it

[@texasfuneral4787]

I consider games 2 and 3 canon because they adapt so closely with the books so in that case Ciri did indeed refer to Geralt as her father in game 3

[@saltycat662]

@@texasfuneral4787 They're only referring to the books. The games aren't canon at all. Just because you're insane and want to convince yourself of something that isn't true doesn't mean we're all going to play along with you. Now go take your pills.

[@mohdshahariar5833]

@@AaSs-ln9mm what Yen was gonna do was give her to the lodge of sorceresses at this point she can't do anything about it, AND after the styga castle siege by Geralt, Emhyr agrees to kill both Yen and Geralt, it was an agreement by the three of them, Ciri even, but unfortunatly nothing could be done about it but ultimately Emhyr decides not to kill them. You read it properly?

[@dawesome_sauce]

This really makes you feel for Henry Cavill.

[@DidierWierdsma6335]

Why? Netflix Witcher sucks period.

[@terrytaylor1732]

@@DidierWierdsma6335 he tried to make it better. But just like zack snider with superman, the netflix writers did not give a shit.

[@GiovanniAuditore]

The hand gestures from the game Geralt killed me🤣

[@ckay8145]

Didnt even notice it haha, thanks for pointing it out

[@Sougiziou]

"that's inexcusable"

[@Blah.Blah.Blah.123]

On point!

[@bobbytrillionaire]

Had to scroll too far for this 😂

[@timmymcgypsy6234]

I love how in season 3 he’s sitting there injured for a whole episode and nobody once mentions him taking a swallow potion

[@TheDuckKing007]

😂 never noticed that.

[@whyonthefall5373]

I think swallow potions are only really used in the witcher games

[@kikosawa]

​@@whyonthefall5373potions are much more rare in the books, as well as monsters and encounters with them. Geralt would probably not run out of the potions from the beginning till the end of the game if they decided to make it excessively lore-friendly.

[@BrunitoRammstein96]

Honestly, i don't think that would work. The potion would only close his wounds, but the thing is ..... Hi was almost killed by that man. His whole body was almost destroyed in that fight. He needed a potion? Probably..... But that wouldn't fix the problem. He had to rest and meditate.

[@kikosawa]

@@BrunitoRammstein96 what I think is that driads provide much stronger medicine than a simple witcher's potion. They are healers, after all.

[@vincelupone]

Chef’s kiss, absolutely perfect video. The end with him saying he didn’t want to be Geralt and Liam coming in wearing a wig with the wrong accent was priceless.

[@christiandowning6634]

I was introduced to Witcher through Season 1 of the Netflix series and it peaked my interest. Bought Witcher 3 immediately after the last episode and spent the first 3 months of 2020 completely blown away by how great the game is. Then I bought the audio books and listed to them at work for the next few months. I was stoked that Netflix was gonna adapt the books, then Season 2 happened. I hope Henry Cavill finds his dream role and I hope we can have a faithfully adapted Witcher series one day.

[@sbraypaynt]

I’m glad you were introduced to Witcher but the fact that the bar was as low as the Netflix show is incredibly depressing. Also the fact that listening to the last wish you were imagining the dogshit world building, casting, costuming, set design and choreography of the show..

[@TheFinalGate_]

Piqued* my interest (not trying to be a dick)

[@Purpurapuripuri]

@@TheFinalGate_ You aren’t even trying?! Well done good Sir. Dickachu I chose you! Sir Dickus of Dickland. On dick to rule them all. The Dickcher. P.S. not trying to be a dick or anything

[@ТАДАМ-ю4ж]

Bro why you started trilogy from last game are you dumb? Or number 3 for you is just a number?

[@panzaraza77]

A bunch of polish guys with a lot of vodka and kielbasa made a much better adaptation in 2002 than netflix nowadays 😂😂😂

[@BuffaloSoldierPL]

That moment when music stops inbetween the lines of „brought ladies to Kaer Morhen” and „turned into a Leshy”, highlighting the absolute absurd of theese events is pure gold xD

[@hurrsia]

Poor Henry Cavill, honestly, he seems to really care about accuracy in these franchises, which is he why he fought the directors so much on the Witcher. Hopefully his work on Warhammer will show that much.

[@MollyHJohns]

Oh he's gonna make that one a true live action down to the T with all his power, don't worry about it.

[@Tespri]

Warhammer will be from point of view of slaneesh worshippers with rainbow flags

[@NKWittmann]

​@@Tespriyeah and the xenos will be the good guys

[@niekesselbrugge1132]

@@NKWittmannim gonna laugh if they turn the T’au into bad guys.

[@Diego-m3g6g]

He will be initiated into the holy gender exchange ritual and become a sister of battle

[@FardeenKhan-we1ku]

''Eskel is alive and Well Right now...as well as he can be with that face'' - Geralt of Rivia

[@nicolleword4365]

He just miraculously massacred Netflix. I burst out laughing. It's good that there are people like you in the world who have read books with understanding and can soberly assess what Netflix is doing.❤

[@missquprison]

I was growing up reading witcher books, so I was really hyped when they decided to make netflix serial for the witcher. There is old Polish one, but they really did it dirty, so I was like "Yeah now is the time!". Well, it wasn't and netflix somehow managed to make it worse than it's predecessor from 2002. First season left me confused and miserable. I watched 2nd with sole purpose poking fun of it. Play the games, read the books. Witcher cinematography is cursed af.

[@blackshard641]

The sad thing is that the 2002 one was bad because they knew the material, but lacked the budget and expertise to realize their passion. Netflix had the budget and (arguably) somewhat more experience with filmmaking, but completely hamstrung their every advantage due to their lack of passion for the material and understanding of the audience. One need only look to the overwhelming success of the MCU (or TW3!) to see what happens when passion and knowledge of the source material and its audience meets artistic competence and a large budget.

[@shauhame6364]

Try "Alzur's legalicy", a fan made witcher movie. Synopsis: Quarter the century after the Rivian Pogrom (the very last events from the Witcher Saga) Kaer Morhen, an old keep of the witchers from the school of the Wolf, is being attacked. Leader of the assault is a mighty warrior - Agaius. A few years later from Aretuza, newly rebuilt school of the sorceress, runs Ornella, who has been suspected of finding the legendary Alzur’s Almanac. In pursuit comes Triss Merigold, with help of an old bard, Dandelion, his bastard son Julian and Lambert, the last monster slayer, seeking for revenge.

[@ronaldood4678]

I have a soft spot for the old Wiedźmin show. Maybe it is nostalgia, maybe it is Netflix making me like the old show more than I should, but disregarding a few episodes that were completely unrelated to the books, I thought they did stories like the golden dragon, the story of Renfri, and Geralt and Ciri reuniting much much better than Netflix. It isn’t perfect but there was still a heart and care in that old show. The TV show version at least, the movie was a mess. Not perfect but I enjoy it far more than Netflix. Also yes “Alzur’s Legacy” is very good. Pół Wieku Poezji Później in Polish. It even brings back Zbigniew Zamachowski from the old Wiedźmin series as Dandelion/Jaskier.

[@YumiSumire]

thought I was the only one. I find Witcher season 1 to be very mediocre. (Season 2 was even worse, couldn't make it through episode 2) And that was even before I touched the games. The games were brilliant. Haven't read the books tho.

[@horushyperion76]

Percy Jackson Fans: "Sucks doesn't it." Games of Thrones Fans : "Atleast your characters got character-assasinated in the beginning."

[@thegiantcookie7614]

The fact the the style of dialogue for each portrayal of Geralt is so accurate... So good

[@Krystalmyth]

Imagine if Netflix actually got showrunners who loved the work. What a hit they'd have. Hopefully in the future someone else will get an opportunity to do it right and we can just forget this era.

[@janmeshgavte6578]

I wish I was trillionaire so I could get the witcher tv show rights from netflix or maybe just buy netflix lol.

[@carrickbend6184]

Netflix had such a golden opportunity with this series. They had a very popular fantasy ip and Henry Cavill at the lead role. Not only that, Henry was actually passionate about his character. This was a rare opportunity and it could have been big enough to rival game of thrones, lauren has cost them way more than just money.

[@keenynthewise]

Most creatives in Hollywood know they can’t create their own original content so they use popular IP as a medium to “tell their own stories” 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Mephilis78]

"I don't wanna be Geralt anymore " Instantly becomes a Space Marine.

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

“I don’t want to be Geralt anymore” that wasn’t Geralt saying he doesn’t want to be himself, that was Cavill lol

[@villyintheflesh]

Thank you captain obvious

[@freeloaderuser6793]

@@villyintheflesh Witcher director Stan found. Begone you!

[@AverageSensei]

Anything else Sherlock? 🎤

[@witchinggecko4271]

Cavill was the only thing keeping that mess of a show alive

[@valdemariv394]

No, it was shit from the episode 1.

[@UndisputedONE2]

​@@valdemariv394 it wasnt. The whole show yes, but Cavil as Geralt was enough of a reason to bear through. Its like Jackman being Wolverine, RDJ being Tony Stark, Tobey MAguire being Bully MAguire... it was good enough to bear through that BS of a storywriting - he was that authentic. Netflix Witcher was 99% shit and that 1% of awesomeness was pure Cavil/Geralt.

[@saltycat662]

@@UndisputedONE2 Cavil is a great Superman too but that doesn't change the fact that both Superman and the Witcher show are both flaming dog doodoo.

[@UndisputedONE2]

​@@saltycat662 i agree on Witcher being dodo and Cavil doing great as both MC#s. But i cant agree on MOS being bad. People feast on the show being to "dark and serious" to be a superman movie but i liked the portrayal of Superman in man of steel actually even as the best superman movie. in MOS he is portrayed most accurately as he would be a planetkilling entity as he is. Im not even talking about Superman as a character but the sheer raw power of the fights and the destruction that comes with it. Im not downplaying superman movies from golden era they are indeed amazing. I liked nearly all the adaptions. as a comic nerd who likes to discuss on battle vines which protrayal of Supes is the strongest comparing him to other entites... MOS just feels right for me plotwise, visually and especially through Cavil. Plus in this case the writers didnt hate Superman like Netflix writers hate on the Witcher .

[@Mrpouletdu33]

@@valdemariv394 I read the books thanks to season 1 so only because of that, it was not a shit from episode 1 as you said. Several episode is the first season are really good.

[@zandeis]

Imagine we could have book adaptations that actually TRY to keep the essence of the source material (part from hotd)

[@jatzi1526]

The Expanse. But that's really only because the writers of the books wrote the show.

[@lagrosseroue5618]

Well time to pray for the Percy Jackson serie... (Even if the cast should be changed in my opinion to be mmore accurate to the books)

[@zandeis]

@@lagrosseroue5618 prayge

[@kallemort]

@@jatzi1526 Yep, this is the one. In fact the TV adaptation massively improved on some characters. It's about as good and accurate as an adaptation can get.

[@linkhidalgogato]

accuracy is whatever sometimes things have to change for practical reasons sometimes its best they change because the source material could be improved or because of differences in mediums. the problem is that the show is fucking garbage not that its different

[@curtispatrick6319]

As someone who just started reading the books (halfway through a time of contempt right now), something I feel the Netflix series has royally screwed up is the relationship between Geralt and Dandelion. They are best friends, two rapscallions getting into all sorts of trouble together. Sure Geralt gets annoyed with Dandelion at times but it is still very endearing. In the show they play on the troupe of the annoying scoundrel who constantly annoys the hero of the story, they make it seem like Geralt hates Dandelion and just wants him to leave him alone. Small detail but completely changes the way you view Geralt in the way he treats/speaks to Dandelion and the friendship the two of them share

[@music-is-my-world-83]

I don't think it's a small detail at all. One of my favorite relationships from the series is their enduring friendship and loyalty. They are ride or die throughout. I abandoned the series on Netflix when Geralt left Jaskier on the mountain after telling him he ruined his life. Book Geralt would never! They made Geralt's character so emotionally constipated, it was insufferable and hard to watch.

[@nemofish3504]

Geralt in the book: super talkative, eloquent, sassy, and sometimes acts like a brat when Regis schools him into being more friendly. Geralt in show: ‘grunt’

[@Nomadith]

And even then Cavil had to FIGHT to get them to let Geralt speak more

[@Patrix8558]

@@Nomadith while in S1 it was his decision to have Geralt talk less.. which is odd.. I wonder if the script was that bad that he'd rather not speak much or just felt that grunting is more Geralt-like for some reason

[@Nomadith]

@@Patrix8558 I didn't recall it being his choice, if anything Interviews point to the contrary.

[@Patrix8558]

@@Nomadith yes, in interview it was said (by him or showrunner.. or I think it was mutual interview and they both said it) before release of S1 that it was his decision and then also theirs. By the time S2 rolled around and after seeing the backlash, he pushed again, but in opposite direction, to give Geralt more lines. But less talkative was his push in S1 too.

[@moon_wizard1250]

To be fair, he's not super talkative in the games. A lot of smalltalk and discussion about monsters and stuff, but I wouldn't call him talkative.

[@kagon3962]

As a witcher fan (read books and played the 3 main games)(watching the netflix witcher shit pains me. Especially with how they said they were all such big fans of the source material.

[@RandommBoyo]

The good old corporate bullshit

[@LucasCarter2]

They actively stated they don’t care for the source material. The show runner actively dislikes the books. She’s a just another Hollywood clown pushing her own shitty writing onto an existing franchise.

[@freespeech3817]

Standard scummy tactic taken right from disgusting politicans. >Tell everything people want to hear to get them to buy/watch your bullshit >profit

[@tyrongkojy]

Then how could you be a fan of the games? That veered from the source material JUST as hard.

[@jasperzanovich2504]

@@tyrongkojy They wrote a new story for a timeframe that didn't have one yet. That is the difference.

[@DerdOn0ner]

That’s basically what Disney, Netflix or Amazon do. Buy the source material and twist it until only the name remains

[@driftingdruid]

and profit from the hype they advertise and create

[@viktorvondoom9119]

It sucks. And then people act surprised when I tell them that most Disney movies are overrated

[@kangsate3459]

Sounds like ea too

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

“Tom Clancy’s”

[@BrutusAlbion]

Evil can only corrupt after all.

[@whakamol]

"It sounds wonderful." "...It was." "I don't want to be Geralt anymore." Well that socked me right in the kidneys when I least expected it. Might need to reread the books and replay the games now.

[@sultankebab1587]

There is even a new quest with the new update so go for it.

[@crusaderman4043]

I love how they did an entire ad campaign on how Cavill is such a huge Witcher nerd, that he even went as far as to change prop designs to better fit the flair and style Geralt fought with in the games. Everytbing that came to light proved that was bullshit. They didnt give a damn about Geralt's word.

[@redrex9112]

The whole Yen and Ciri thing in the show just makes me sad because they have such a good relationship and times together in the books. (I'm halfway through book Time of Contempt at least) I quite enjoyed the animation in this.

[@richardhobbs7360]

Ciri even refers to her as mum, in the show they are more like step mum and step daughter, only amicable because Geralt wasn’t them to be

[@kingt0295]

@@richardhobbs7360hahaha true, Yen tolerates Ciri at most then outright hates her in season 2. They try to make Yen a mother figure in season 3 but the damage to Yen’s characterisation was already too much to believably fix it. She tried to sacrifice Ciri ffs 😂

[@richardhobbs7360]

@@kingt0295 BuT sHe ChAnGeD hEr MiNd Stupid series, stupid writers, perfect casting

[@kingt0295]

@@richardhobbs7360 mediocre casting tbh, Yen looks like a 19yr old pretty girl not a let’s say 30 yr old beautiful respectable experienced woman Ciri and Geralt were alright though

[@richardhobbs7360]

@@kingt0295 TBF, she is 28 or 29 (no one knows her birth year, let alone date) so young when she was cast, but IMO, not THAT bad of a casting If they went for a younger Ciri there wouldn’t be even a slight problem IMO

[@tommytron55]

Love it and the detail! Even down to Geralt's speaking animations from the game

[@andjankowski]

"Vesemir would never even considered putting her life in danger" [...] "Sounds wonderful" :D

[@ChiefToad]

This is probably how it actually went down in Henry Cavill's mind.

[@nirelli476]

“I don’t want to be Geralt anymore.” Probably what Henry Cavill said to himself after he saw how much Netflix changed the story.

[@FemboyTyco]

Saddens me man, seeing how Passionate he is with this IP.

[@allespomidores2845]

Wow! That was brilliant :D I had such a good laugh. I'm not watching Netflix Witcher-like series, so to me the real Witcher has the face and the voice of Michał Żebrowski.

[@harryv6752]

That, "I'll do it if he won't," had me dyin'. 😆😆😆

[@benlewis3745]

Very accurate.... or should I say not?

[@MatthewMcCleskey]

Hard to say

[@56ur4]

Accurately inaccurate

[@slipperysteev]

BRILLIANT!!! Nailed every aspect - the Liam Hemsworth at the end was icing on the cake. So much respect, my good sir 🫡 ⚔️

[@Hunterpwned]

Vesemir and Geralt did feel Witcher accelerants to Ciri which made Triss chew them out in the books. The show actually has that in common with the books

[@kakae4439]

"I don't wanna be Geralt anymore" poor Cavill

[@SpookyStu]

Called in the Cavillry for this show and even he couldn't save it.

[@I-J1NX-I]

Netflix geralt being depressed since he was clearly the only sane person in his dimension.

[@drunkpunkrat5764]

Book!Geralt becomes depressed and a bit edgy at one point but his teammates are there to cheer him up and to keep him motivated.

[@arek2102]

Cavil-Geralt: "I wanted to do things right!... But they made me!"

[@valthenvega2434]

“You know what, end me, I started with good wishes but now I hate myself”

[@thefirely1439]

The writers of the show literally had the easiest job ever and they still fcked it up. All they had to do was follow the source material but they couldn't even do that.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

that feeling when I haven't touched either version, so this whole lore dump is incomprehencible to me

[@MatthewMcCleskey]

Might be a bit much lol

[@hawklegs6940]

The big things I caught: Geralt and Yennefer think of Ciri as their daughter in the source material/games, like a found family unit, so those scenarios where they put her in danger or sacrifice her are unthinkable. The wolf school of witchers isn't making any more witchers, so Vessemir wanting to put Ciri through the mutations makes no sense. Basically, the mutations have a 90% mortality rate, which means a lot of kids die just for the chance of making one witcher. The world doesn't really need witchers anymore, so the wolf school stopped making more. It's actually what puts the cat school in a bad light, they're still making more witchers, killing more kids, and they're working as hired assassins rather than monster hunters. Their whole morality system is questionable at best, giving them a bad reputation. Hope this gives some context to some of that! :D I'm not finished with the game yet so far, but I'm enjoying it a lot.

[@freespeech3817]

@@hawklegs6940 All they had to do was create original main character, maybe even from cat school and make our beloved characters apear here and there doing own things/sometimes helping main cast. Maybe even making Geralt chase after protagonist, hunt him down and then going own way after finding protagonist hidden motive.

[@MinktheStorykeeper]

I've played 10 hours of witcher 3 and am lost as well.

[@Trazynn]

@@freespeech3817 But then how would the writer staff prove they're better than everyone else?

[@bassisku]

Damn Matthew you're really taking this animation style to the next level, keep this up. Love all the attention to the detail like the facial features and the music.

[@generalping999]

​@@mudshrooze It's not a cartoon filter, it's hand traced/drawn frame by frame. Takes a lot of time and patience, but overall pretty simple.

[@addictedtochocolate920]

I love how the mannerisms and way of speaking of game Geralt are spot on with his in-game model

[@empdisaster10]

Book/game geralt canonly is like, really fucking nice. He almost never makes someone do something he wouldn’t be willing to do instead (the exception being when they caused the issue at hand) and even if someone caused the problem he usually tries to save them because a lot of the time he understands why they did it Geralt isn’t emotionless because he’s a witcher, he just can’t express his emotions because he’s a witcher. He’s lived hundreds of years and the reason he’s the best witcher ultimately ends up being because he actually cares more than most. He sacrificed himself to defend innocents, ending in his own death and loss of all of his memories and would easily do it again if it meant saving more people

[@Doctorgeo7]

The irony is the first season of the Netflix series convinced to get the first two books because I couldn't believe the source material could be as medicore as the show. When the second season came out, I bought Blood of Elves after hearing about all the changes in the Netflix version.

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

Never read the books because I thought it be too similar to the series, but now I realise just how much better they are!

[@Komix777]

Good lord. Holy crap. As a Pole, I felt terrible reading this.

[@Levon_RnD]

The books are great, the game is not bad but it's no match for the original story.

[@bruncla2303]

Yeah no worries the books really have just surface level similarities with show definitely worht a read.

[@Karak-_-]

Before anyone here overpraise it, there are occasional passages of pure politics which may not be to your taste, depends on how much you like politics, so that's something to keep in mind.

[@bruncla2303]

@@Karak-_- why does it read like its a con when its a great wordlbuilding passages showing that even though Geralt influences world politics he is just a very small cog in a big machine. He is a protagonist of his story but not the main character of the world.

[@VraanVritr]

I can imagine this whole exact scene playing inside Cavill's mind

[@Jack_Kerrigan]

When Hemsworth entered the frame I DIED 🤣

[@12345.......]

1:20 WHAT are you TALKING about?

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

That "not *about* to take your WORD for it" was so perfect lmao exactly how he says it

[@calvor685]

I was so blown away that everyone loved the witcher Netflix series. I felt like I was crazy and alone telling people how it didn't make sense compared to the books or even the games which took creative liberties but did them in a way I could enjoy putting the actual canonical lore aside

[@MrFragalax]

I don't know anyone who "loves" it, best praise I heard is it's "ok". And that was before season 3.

[@lonesurvivor8828]

What an amazing way to show the differences between them, while also showing why the original is superior.

[@Balaskh]

"This is why I hate portals" was just perfect 👏🏻

[@rubenperezgarcia8137]

Book and game Geralt are pretty much two different characters. This is more of game Geralt.

[@sasquatch7234]

True. Game Geralt is pretty much Billy Badass. Book Geralt is a badass but cautious. And sometimes he furks up.

[@RupertTheOctopus]

i wish they did like the game and just told more tales of the witcher, completely respecting the past work as canon

[@paanjaan]

"I used Ciri as bait" oh god don't tell me this was really in that shitshow netlix did because that's goes against everything Gelart believes in and i think book character would never even think about such thing and it only proves how disconnected writers are from sources

[@DevilHunter1994]

What Yennefer did was even worse. She literally allowed Ciri to get demonically possessed, all so that Yen could get her magic powers back. (The writers had her lose her powers after the end of season 1)

[@bombingbarrett4813]

Wanna know something else? Vesemir stabbed Ciri in the stomach with a dagger.

[@Olivia-W]

@@bombingbarrett4813 Holy shhh... I did not watch S2 of the show. Really?

[@TheHadMatters]

You got so on-point with (game) Geralt's dialogue phrasing.

[@TheHadMatters]

Like, if that scene happened in the game, that's exactly how the dialogue writers would phrase it out.

[@77Zenin77]

2:00 At this point the REAL Gerald would see that something is very off because even a very shitty Dopler can't mix things this badly.

[@DeadLikeMeJ]

Brilliant, "I don't wanna be geralt anymore" is on the spot... for once I am looking for a reboot , one that will actually be good for poor Henry and the story.

[@taqresu5865]

Henry Cavill to Book Geralt: I wish I got to play as you. I left the project because the Netflix writers hate you.

[@jim8656]

I love this so much 😂 I hate how Netflix did Eskel dirty he was always my next favorite Witcher

[@stephenbyers6173]

Man I remember being so excited for the show, those thoughts aged like fine milk lol

[@RavixAryss]

The attention to the way game Geralt gestures, and even the way he speak is fantastic.

[@piotrt4786]

"Game Geralt"?? Where is he?

[@piotrt4786]

@chandllerburse737 you're wrong and you've probably never read "The Witcher" books if you say so

[@pdm881]

"Sounds wonderful"......."It was"... That hit way too damn hard.

[@wildhuntkenway5872]

Game Geralt: How about a round of gwent? Netflix Geralt: What's that? Game Geralt: Netflix Netflix, what a prick.

[@cjwrites]

"I don't want to be Geralt anymore..." So sad. Poor Henry.

[@jeremiahm3765]

The casting for Triss broke the show for me. She's very pretty, and probably a good actress, but she ain't a firey redhead, and I'm a simp for that apparently. Just seems like they weren't trying.

[@Cymricus]

this is exactly what i always complain about and i’m gay so it’s not just a simp thing

[@jeremiahm3765]

@@Cymricus 😂😂🤘

[@picklejho69]

She's not a firey redhead in the books, just the games. In the books she has auburn hair, which the actress had. My problem was with Yennefer being Indian, though Anya Chalotra did grow on me, despite the shows shortcomings.

[@shauhame6364]

For me it wasn't about the hair (the old "book vs game Triss" debate). I don't know how they did it but Netflix Triss look like a fucking MILF and this is equally awful for the poor actress.

[@xFlareLeon]

@@picklejho69 Auburn =/= brown. And if the games got her so wrong, there would have been an uproar but there wasn't.

[@cobrajeff96]

Yooo, this was awesome. Got a few good laughs out of it. I wish I could feel as light-hearted about the actual series as I do this clip. But excellent work on this. Bravo!

[@Cafearmuire]

The "Vesemir want to conduct the Trial Of The Grasses on Ciri" alone is already revelant of the quality of the serie. Moreover when it is specified in the third book that "Of all the previous witchers the only one left was Vesemir but he was a swordmaster, he had no knowledge of how to use the mutagens."

[@martina6379]

I still haven’t finished reading the 1st book and was already astonished at how different the source material is from the Netflix adaptation, even before watching this video…now, I’m positive that I should just try to forget everything presented by the TV show cuz literally 99% of it doesn’t matter

[@Botar48]

Eh scenes from first book was not all that much changed in first season of the show though.

[@tymondabrowski12]

@@Botar48 Not really, imho the whole destiny thing was very different. For example, in the show Geralt and Ciri only meet once, after they both look for each other - not really much of a destiny there. In the books, they meet each other by chance several times (first he just saw her, not knowing which one of the kids is her, or even if any of them is; it was an audience with the queen, who understandably denied any contact, let alone taking her, and Geralt was kinda relieved by that too; next time he brought her to Mousesack himself after randomly finding her in a druid forest), and the last time is literally another Child of Surprise thing (it's a pretty funny scene, because the guy who Geralt saved said that his wife is actually barren and can't have more children (which is why he agreed to the Law of Surprise), and then they arrive to the hut and his wife comes out and says "our three children will come home soon" and he's like "what three children? We had two?" and she says "I hope you won't be angry, I took in this little orphan from the druids..." and yes, that was Ciri), and that was after he decided to stop looking for her around Cintra. Their hug made more sense there, too, because they knew and talked to each other earlier. You can see how Geralt wasn't really aiming to get her, and their encounters were clearly all by destiny. Also the Jaskier & Geralt relationship is very skewed, Jaskier is treated very badly by Geralt for no reason. In the books it's very clear they're friends, even if they're kind of an "odd couple". It gets better in later seasons though.

[@Botar48]

@@tymondabrowski12 I said first book and first season. I haven't even read the rest yet I am procrastinating. Ciri didn't really appeared in the first book. Just the story of how Gerald earned her before her birth.

[@Belloch2401]

This was so good, well done.

[@nikolab.4065]

2:24 the face and lip flaps on fake Geralt xD

[@aloneinthedark99]

Got the hand gestures down

[@commonsenseless9894]

I don't even want to know how badly Netflix would ruin my homie Emiel Regis Rohellec Terzieff-Godefroy by making him a selfish a-hole or ignoring his aversion for drinking blood because he wouldn't look vampire enough if he didn't

[@DeadDave]

I can’t help but think if they had stuck with the source material, everything would have turned out beautifully. Oh well. Hopefully these “writers” learn their lesson.