The Witcher: Season 3 - A Desperate Attempt for Redemption

[@cavedog1279]

What they really should have done in the opening scene for season 3 is have Geralt wake up and say "wow what an awful dream" and then completely ignore ALL of season 2.

[@YouTubeCensors]

Lack of total integrity tbh. If showrunners had courage this would have been done for GoT as well.

[@tmmnago2722]

Has there ever been a show that's done that for a previous season?

[@mdberg65]

​@@tmmnago2722 Serious question? Dallas.

[@nemlas85]

or take courage and continue that way. it would be probably difficult, but eventually they could have come back to the book while also telling their story. that could have been also successful IF (very big IF) they care for their characters and lead them well. unfortunately they had shown signs that they don't care that much, and that is made clearer and clearer with every new half season, so yeah, I am just making a hypothetical point...

[@JamesQMurphy]

@@mdberg65and parodied by Family Guy

[@fencserx9423]

It is amazing how talented actors can make you not immediately hate a useless scripts

[@BELLAoBARTALK]

If they’d just used the source material, they’d have a great series on their hand.

[@jordanjose6475]

@@BELLAoBARTALK it actually disappointing considering they had source material that was good enough to make a show as long running show like game of thrones

[@punz7777]

I literally imagine the "I am a surgeon" meme when i imagine the screenwriters and director. And Cavil is Daniel Dae Kim.

[@SOSO_CREPITUS]

@@BELLAoBARTALK this was before the stupid writers strike too wtf. What dumbasses

[@Loranvel]

Of the things that most interested me in the first season was costume designing, so sad to see that change drastically…

[@pspppe]

The aging Radavid part in the story is very easy to explain. The show runners simply weren't allowed any where near kids.

[@eventhorizon88]

I quit the show just as I realised they made him gay

[@cosmic-creepers9207]

You’re right it easy to explain. Netflix had to get the gays in somehow.

[@MichalBackwater]

@@cosmic-creepers9207 All this gay talk is totally worthless. Atm Jaskier is at best bisexual and taking into consideration his caring over Ciri he might as well do everything for her safety. In my opinion Jaskier might simply play being in love. @pspppe I'm actually afraid that nowadays there's almost none serious movies about children. Seriously not a single ambitious role for teenage actors. I grew up on Sixth sense or on Leon: the pro. But on the other hand I wouldn't want to be an actor these times...

[@cosmic-creepers9207]

@@MichalBackwater you evidently aren’t aware of the source material.

[@xxdookersxx]

@@cosmic-creepers9207 gay people dont need gay/bi characters to enjoy a season. I am just as confused about Radavid as you are, considering hes supposed to be a CHILD and Jaskier was hetero in the books. that said, gay/bi people exist. Yes, even in fantasy. Could writers have created a queer character and written them in so it made sense and didnt change the orientations of already existing characters? Yes and it probably would have been the smarter play in my opinion. But if you are still upset over lgbt presence in media in 2023? I refer you to what Neon Knight says at [8:06]. Seek help lmfao.

[@MrTheoriginalderek]

Henry wasn't acting in season 3, his facial expressions were genuine 😂

[@raphael2407]

totaly. You can see his pain, especialy in episode 5. It's unbearable and I 100% understand why Henry quit. Makes me wonder why he is the only one because no actor serious about their craft can possibly carry on with this BS.

[@hansnotgruber3326]

@@raphael2407Most of the other actor’s are smaller than Cavill or are newcomers to show business. I can’t blame them for not skipping out of a job. (I get your point though)

[@sendmeyourlocation1145]

It's terrible even when he's the main character they killed the franchise

[@timmyflanders3299]

Considering he was already fed up by Season 2, I can't even imagine the frustration he was feeling and I'd bet the sword fight scenes were intense, as a way for him to blow off steam.

[@FoButter]

@@raphael2407 I am not serious about my craft. I put up with it $$

[@run_VNC]

Dude, those Yennefer outfits in these scenes looks like she just stepped out of a H&M store. Costume designers just gave up.

[@andrewpequita6569]

Said almost the exact same thing last night , it’s so off putting. That’s been an issue since season 1 but it’s so noticeable this season and with multiple different characters.

[@run_VNC]

@@andrewpequita6569 yeah, seems kinda funny seeing Geralt in Full black armor and then Yen walks by with the clothes she just bought at SHEIN.

[@Silfarran]

And she's supposed to walk around like an Orca

[@zamaskowany12]

Funnily enough the purple shirt and the black skirt are actual H&M clothes

[@savonarola831]

Worst outfit by far in my opinion was emhirs fake chest plate. I cringed so damn hard 😅

[@walmartian422]

It’s really bad when Cavill’s scenes are the only ones worth looking forward to and he’s practically become a side character in his own story.

[@octavius9685]

bro, its like Star Trek turning Capt Kirk into a background character

[@Eudomac99]

I mean, he basically becomes a side character in the books too

[@ashkahiri2064]

to be fair...... that's a problem from the books too. Just got to Baptism of Fire now and im really hoping that issue is fixed

[@tawneymcqueen7890]

Witcher..really lost something great..should have stuck to straight story..Cavill is a hollywood great..as a lady who swoons over all the great classic movies..hes in that league..and he stayed classy the whole time..in a time when so much is divisive..glad to see an actor ..always stay positive..always move forward..and takes his fans with them..

[@EL-ISS]

​​@@ashkahiri2064Baptism of Fire is actually actually my favourite of the books lol. That's when Geralt gets to meet up with the crew. Zoltan, Percival, Milva, Dandelion, Regis etc. Tower of Swallows is also great. All on an adventure! And I like The Rats story with Ciri as well.

[@boufey5169]

Wow. Geralt's ability to just appear where he needs to be sure would've been useful in finding Ciri in The Witcher 3!

[@MrFudgepump]

He has that ability, but uses it to find people to play gwent with

[@kinagrill]

It's more of a Roach-power to appear just as Geralt whistles :P

[@digitalbrush30]

Almost like he's... Superman...

[@blakearius]

@@MrFudgepump This is why Cavill plays such a good Geralt.. they're both secret nerds.

[@Ccthomas-ks1hn]

It did take me a second to realize he really did save ciri. I thought it was a dream or something it was weird

[@willo1345]

Glad I'm not the only one who found the whole mending of relationships was fucking weird. If someone tried to sell my soul or my adopted daughter's soul to a demon, I'd never trust their ass again.

[@chrisp9824]

Eyyy, come on... she wrote letters, give her a brake ;P Honestly I just skipped those scenes from second letter forward, they got me super frustrated and almost made me not watch the entire season. The letters at the beginning and the cut of the final episode are seriously unbelievably bad. Not a matter of taste, it's like a 10 year old made and cut those. WTF netflix?

[@manumaster1990]

why DA FUCK did you give them views?

[@thebecksbeerboy583]

Ice skating together >>>> selling your soul to a demon for power

[@la_engineer]

come on, stop crying...that was a week ago, how long do you want to be sad? I'm really "sorry" ;D

[@Jakub-kw1rx]

«The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.» (Gospel - Matthew - Chapter: 1...)

[@Danycrumble]

My partner and I were watching the scene where Ciri is hunted by the Wild Hunt and Geralt just appearing out of thin air and we actually thought we must have missed a whole scene before it. Which was thinkable since we weren't paying a lot of attention because the show was so bad. We thought maybe it was a dream, since Yen didn't notice her gone. Aaaaand I think that's all you need to know about S3.

[@Eskolol]

That was so bad. And there's no context either into any of the wild hunt stuff. We are just supposed to know. *shrug*

[@azarel7]

I literally rewinded it to see if I had missed Yennefer and Ciri arguing and then her leaving..but nothing. Ah boy.

[@kensingtonreginald]

I thought I fell asleep and rewind 3 times 😂😂

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

Yeah...and then he casts 1 single Aard sign and the Wild Hunt is just...gone. In the 3rd game at the battle of Kaer Morhen you can have 3 sorceresses, 5 witchers (Geralt, Lambert, Eskel, Vesimir, Letho), a druid, a dwarf, war veterans Roche and Ves, 2-3 experienced raiders from Skellige and the Wild Hunt still kicks the player's ass, until Vesimir sacrifices himself and Ciri goes beserk.

[@kirsiontronen8965]

I thought it was a dream too during the whole scene😂 It was so abrupt and Geralt coming out of nowhere was so dream-like scenery, but no, it was just bad screenplay/writing🤨🙈

[@HeisenbergFam]

Henry Cavill's contribution to Witcher and him wanting show to be book accurate is amazing, shame he is no longer The Witcher

[@Kavurcen]

Like when he refused to have a sex scene between Geralt and Yenn because he didn't think that was "lore accurate" ? lmfao

[@duckonquack6969]

He will always be the witcher

[@itisyerdad]

I think it's interesting. Cavill has mentioned he never read the books and had only played Witcher 3 -- not even Hearts of Stone or Blood & Wine, just the base game!). He portrays Witcher 3 Geralt fairly well, but has no context for the slightly more lore accurate versions of Geralt (despite plot contrivance Triss amnesia) that Witcher 1 & 2 offer. Everyone keeps lauding Cavill as a big Witcher fan when he told us in interviews he really liked Witcher 3's base game and their depiction of a much less intellectual version of Geralt.

[@razieltheall-knowing9989]

​@@itisyerdad I actually read all of them really

[@ByrgenworthGraduate]

​@@itisyerdadActually I recently watched his interviews and his stated MULTIPLE times that he played the games 1st then realized there were books and read all of them as well I don't know where u got that he only played the base game information from but its logical to assume that ur statement is incorrect Not to mention he loves games like warhammer and this other strategy game i forgot the name of

[@raptorjesus889]

It really irritated me that they even used dear friend because in the book it was like the opposite situation. Geralt, after basically ghosting yen sends her a letter and doesnt know what to call her and hes all anxious about it and he calls her friend, which is mad relatable and kinda sweet honestly. This irritates Yen and, being the petty, sassy ass she is, she sends him a letter and emphasizes the use of the word friend to make a point which is also kinda cute. Geralt than regrets saying friend and is basically like "dang it im so stupid and awkward". Their relationship is so cute and childish in some ways and the show just completely threw the entire thing out the window.

[@pt6238]

Forced gay romance

[@jaimeruiz7837]

It’s rarely cute, Yen is trash in the game and even worse in the books. She’s lucky she’s a big titty goth chick.

[@morsumbra9692]

Books did a great job showing that love is the center of humanity and even if someone spend centuries on this Earth you may not be all that good at it. Especially when society is brutal and demands roles of us, but we are still our own separate entity with our own choices. Struggles. And desires. And then to share all that, brutal reality included, with someone.

[@c.f.bellairs1055]

@@pt6238 it's a fact that there's forced straight romances in plenty of media too - I always found it telling how *angry* people get about forced gay romances but not forced straight romances.

[@pt6238]

@@c.f.bellairs1055 both are lame. But gay romances are a product at this point, because look at us we have gay people. It is ingenuine and just a way to get more people to watch.

[@declaredjeans7555]

Cavill was completely fucked by the showrunner, and I feel so bad for him, because he really wanted this to be awesome.

[@jacmarie2394]

I actually thought that the Ciri/Wild Hunt showdown (if you can even call it that) was a dream because of the horrible CGI horse ride and the absolute coincidence of Geralt being able to run into her in enough time to save her. I didn’t think it was real!

[@SonjaPond]

Same!!!

[@fantasywind3923]

In the book it actually makes more sense, because first Geralt was close to the city where Yennefer and Ciri were Gors Velen, nearby isle of Thanedd, as Geralt was actually shadowing them (first taking out the assassins trailing them) and then wandered around in the area. "Molnar,' she said coldly. 'Let sleeping dogs lie. I doubt that he still considers me dear to him, and if he finds out about the erased debt, he will hate me even more. You know him, how obsessed with honour he is. How long ago was he in Dorian?' 'About ten days ago. He has been spotted later in Little Meadow. From there, as I was informed, he rode to Hirundum, answering the notice of local peasants. A monster, as usual.'" ... "'These poor souls,' she interrupted, 'probably had nowhere to run. Fabio? Where's the town... Hirundum?' The boy gave her a confused look. 'Hirundum's not a town,' he corrected. 'It's a huge farm. There are orchards and gardens providing vegetables and fruit to all towns in the region. There are also many ponds with carps and other fish...' 'How far is Hirundum? Which way is it? Show me.' 'Why would you need to know that?' 'I asked you to show me.' 'See that road, leading west? The one the wagons are at? That's the road to Hirundum. About fifteen miles, through the woods.' 'Fifteen miles', Ciri repeated after him. 'Not far for a good horse... Thank you, Fabio.' " So in the books Ciri was missing Geralt and upon hearing he is nearby he wanted to ride to him and he was indeed some 15 miles away, in the book though Yennefer cast a spell which drove off the phantoms of Wild Hunt. The netflix show doesn't do worldbuilding of the witcher world, and any sort of geography any proper way :).

[@zealobiron]

Gotta love plot armor

[@Luigi_davola]

Same I had to rewatch it so many times

[@seanmaness6381]

Same!

[@sarahmohammad9222]

OMG yes the makeup THANK YOU ! i thought i was crazy to even notice that ciri's makeup was SO visible and cakey throughout every episode, it was so distracting and really took away from the outdoors/wilderness/my-life-is-in-danger aspect of the whole season which is basically the entire plot of part 1

[@kinagrill]

I do wonder when someone hunted by THE WILD HUNT has time to find medieval make-up, especially when such stuff is really only a nobility-thing to afford and reason to use.

[@alicjakempisty2729]

and her hair? it's two hours of a modern hairdresser's work and ridiculously impractical in her circumstances with all the loose hair flying around her face. straight out of Euphoria High

[@kinagrill]

@@alicjakempisty2729 for settings with utilitarian magic (D&D got that for example), I can accept pretty hair without effort...cuz ya know, magic to do it fast.

[@edelleaa]

i immediately noticed that.... it was so out of place and no other character seemed to have such make up (thankfully) ... but she looked all glammed up for no reason and honestly it wasn't doing her any favours either, just made her look worse imo

[@marorerimeraremaro2533]

I find it amazing how you can keep track of what is happening in this series, i have only played the Witcher 3, but when it comes to the Netflix show, not only do i get utterly confused, bamboozled and thrown off by all the time skips, names, locations, events etc. but after every season, all that remains in my mind is a cloud with some very vague details. So as soon as i jumped into the 3rd season, i had absolutely 0 recollection of wtf happened all these past seasons (i remember Yeneffer being ugly, catching ligthning in a bottle, Siri breaking the floor when chased, Yen doing some fire magic and that's about it) so i just watch it to watch it. I have literally 0 expectations, i can't focus on anything, i can't track any schemes or plots whatever faction has, i don't think i even know what factions there are right now. It's just very weird, it's like i am watching static on an old TV but i simply watch it for Henry Caville.

[@grytexy733]

this is the most relatable thing i've ever read

[@paracyntrix]

I had exactly the same feeling watching the third season. By third episode, I thought, maybe it'll help if I saw both Season 1 & 2 again... maybe that'll help in understanding the story. But then I thought, it'll still be a waste of time... why torture myself even more, after having seen Blood Origin.

[@KarolinaK00]

My partner and I had the same thought also. Two episodes into season 3 and we had to stop and watch some season 1 & 2 recaps. And even then, we couldn't remember what was going on, why, who was who. What a mess. Even watching this video, I remember images, but not what it all adds up to or where the story is supposed to be going this season. It's incomprehensible.

[@adoniscreed4031]

Yeah, try reading the books and watching the tv show at the same time... shit gets confusing as hell cuz of how different both are 😂 I should have finished the books before this season came out ffs hahaha

[@Deimonos85]

that is the problem when you have woke producers and writers.. triss and yennefer being ethnically swapped.. Yennefer should look like Eva Green.. and Triss.. well kinda like bryce dallas howard and another problem was making Geralt not the main character of the show similar to Doc Strange in his last movie.. secondary character to Wanda and the little girl

[@fashionbird]

I agree with you on the zero on screen chemistry between Geralt and Yen. Not quite sure what is it but Yen also has little chemistry with the other characters on screen because her character is so wildly inconsistent that her interactions all feel inauthentic. Yen’s chemistry with Geralt, Ciri, Istredd all feels off. Even her chemistry with Tissaia feels inauthentic given her betrayal and then waltzing back in.

[@arpitakodagu9854]

Anya Chalotra lacks charisma. She was an absolutely awful choice for Yennefer and looks much too young and scrawny to boot.

[@jamesgarretson2922]

@@arpitakodagu9854 honestly I gotta disagree. I thought Anya Chalotra absolutely killed it in season 1, her chemistry with Cavill was also solid. Sometimes, an actor just can't save bad writing, especially when their as young and inexperienced as Chalotra.

[@MisterDeets]

It could be the writing or it could be Anya's acting. Either way, nothing she does comes off as genuine with any of the other characters. Same goes with the actress who plays Fringilla.

[@TheLumberjack1987]

@@jamesgarretson2922 maybe don't cast young and inexperienced for a character who should come off as mature and experienced

[@timmyflanders3299]

Turns out only having one half of a uniquely compatible character relationship be accurately portrayed completely throws off the dynamic, which kills me because I think it's the most important part of the story. Henry did what he could and I don't fault Anya but they simply failed to portray Yennefer's true personality whatsoever.

[@wickdaline8668]

On one hand, it seems they weren't lying about trying to stay true to the books. On the other hand, most of it feels unearned after the mess of season 2.

[@EdwardSturdy]

It's a shame really, feels like a lot of what they do falls flat because of terrible decisions in S2. That said there are still some terrible decisions - i.e Radovid and Dandelion serving no plot purpose at all, literally just so Netflix could have a male gay relationship

[@yetipotato8567]

Yes this

[@wafflingmean4477]

The question is though why did Henry leave then? Had he already made up his mind after Season 2 or did something specific in Season 3 push him over the edge? I get the feeling this Season still has a few major book changes we haven't seen yet.

[@wickdaline8668]

@wafflingmean4477 The damage may have already been done or something.

[@jonfreeman9682]

What specifically does it not stay true? Season 1 is and 2 is straight from the books. 3 is pretty good.

[@rchlface]

I haven't read all of the books, had no idea from the books that Vilgefortz was going to be the big bad. I still guessed it the second he gave Tissea that dumb bracelet. The way they filmed the scene and the weird ringing noise they gave the bracelet, along with Vilgefortz being obviously shady through the previous seasons gave it away. Watching the last ep was torture. They made it so glaringly obvious it wasn't going to be Stregabor. From the fact that would be too obvious, to the bard group singing "All is not as it seems" OVER and OVER. The writing was lazy and infuriating from a non-book knowledge perspective too.

[@edelleaa]

even if it's not based on anything its just predicable and sometimes just plain nonsensical. it's just not a great show overall even if you disregard the source material fully

[@StutiMishra]

exactly

[@glockenrein]

I haven’t read the books either but I have no desire to watch season 3. Season 2 was such a convoluted mess that I’ve no idea what even happened.

[@Mojoindope]

😊

[@dukeof2958]

Thanks, someone with a brain still exists, it seems!

[@cloudsaysthings]

I appreciate it when someone like you gives a review on a show like this. I absolutely refuse to hate watch shows.

[@acerimmer8338]

Agreed. Hate watching is the absolute worst thing you can do if you don't like a show. All these companies care about is views and you just gave it to them. Apathy FTW.

[@GIN4368]

pirate it.

[@AD-lh3jk]

@@GIN4368this is the way

[@fatshiba333]

@@GIN4368got any websites to watch it? i used to watch a few shows on 123movies a few months ago but the link doesn’t work anymore

[@deadlyydude5522]

Makes you wonder if this season could’ve actually been decent had they not focused on fan fiction for 70% of season 2. There were some scenes from this season straight out of the books, which was great. But they wrote themselves into such a corner last season I knew it would be impossible to salvage. My guess is the show doesn’t make it past 5 seasons

[@marty.m2933]

Funny thing is, that if they were concerned about spending to much time by just talking (still, TV is mainly visual medium), they could have "fix that" by just inviting Yen on Kaer Morhen instead of Triss (on the contrary, she could be used as a link with politics and we would learn thanks to her what is happening in the world). That would give us that needed relationship betwen main trio, whole season could have ended on Thanned and we would be in third episode of season 2 where season 3 begin. Instead, we got stupid, pointless filler that undermines everything, makes no sense, and doesn't get us anywhere. My guess is the show doesn’t make it past season 4

[@ogar0524]

​@@marty.m2933unfortunately we are getting 5. Netflix management either thought announcing the renewal for 2 seasons around the cavil announcement would help ratings , or the show runner is friends with someone in management.

[@colette2034]

I think they announced both because they're planning to film seasons 4 and 5 back to back. Also nice since the cast who are still under contract can get out quicker!!

[@brimstonewinpete9306]

Passing out of context references to things front like 4 different time frames even dif characters and books isn't strait from the books

[@momokazi3215]

The problems stem from season 1 though. That's where they had a chance to build Ciri, Geralt and Yens relationship, but no. The show has been a trainwreck from the get go.

[@pr1est220]

Imagine how excited Henry must have felt when he got the role, like a childhood dream come true. To get the chance to play a character you absolutely love and to introduce the world of the witcher to a new bigger fanbase. And then it goes so far that he chooses to leave the show because he could not keep up anymore with the writers bullshit. I feel so sorry for him.

[@bencarlson4300]

He was perfectly cast and subsequently wasted for two amazing roles and then fired from one immediately after quitting the other.

[@paddyoleary7695]

Knowing Netflix they will make him black in the next season 😂

[@RashaadGenie]

@@paddyoleary7695what the f*ck?

[@JesusChrist2000BC]

​@@paddyoleary7695Next season is one of the Hemsworths.

[@tawneymcqueen7890]

Yeah...but he chose the right path..and gained even more respect..hopefully ..Warhammer project stays pure..I think it will!!..love his dog..nice big dog..grew up with giant Alaskan Malamute..big dogs the best!

[@Amber-mv8wz]

I agree with you 100% about the lack of chemistry between this Geralt & Yennifer. I literally cringe every time the show tries to paint them as lovers because there's nothing there to make it anything but awkward as hell. Almost all of the 5 episodes we got were just clumsy attempts to fix all the stuff they broke, or failed to tell at all, during the first 2 seasons. Overall, the show is a train wreck & they have no one to blame but themselves for making it so. I hope they'll just end it before putting out a season without Henry but I'm pretty sure they'll try to milk as much money out of it as possible before putting it out of its misery.

[@dylana.9057]

another popular IP adapated, another failed adaptation. The cycle never ends.

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

The fact that Jaskier (the friend of a witcher) has a romance with Radovid of all people, is really strange. Radovid (apart from being a child in the books) in the Witcher 3 hates everything that is different, he burns mages, sorceresses, non-humans...he even starts persecuting herbalists! Him having a relationship with another man would be very much out of character for him. It is a very strange choice.

[@nirachien2274]

The show is not following the games, they're not canon in this universe, so it is irrelevant what happened in them.

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

@@nirachien2274 I know. It is sad. They had a perfectly good source material, they could have followed the books (I listened to 3 or 4 in audiobook format), they could have followed the games (played 2 and 3), made a mix of both, but no...logic and fanbase be damned!

[@ladansemakabre]

@@nirachien2274 still given the fact that the games are extremely popular, they should know better. ppl will look at Radovid and think about TW3 Radovid, if they wanted to give Jaskier a male romantic interest they should have made a new character. also... Radovid is a teenager in that book so it's icky af they aged him up for that.

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

@@ladansemakabre In The Witcher 3 there is that male elf who dresses up in women's clothes sometimes, I think it's the "Broken Flowers" quest. They could have created a character like him (though I think in the game their relationship is platonic). The romance with Radovid is like when they killed off "Eskel" in season 2, and everybody who played the game was like "But Eskel lives in the game. Lambert can die, but only in specific circumstances...".

[@fantasywind3923]

What's especially moronic with this 'romance' is that in the books, Jaskier/Dandelion already has a romance...with a woman,...duchess Anna Henrietta in the later books :).

[@joshuahaastrup6432]

That last episode actually killed me fr. I was like wtf, did I accidentally rewind the episode to the start all over again from the beginning, it felt like the show was literally spitting in my face and insulting me directly they made me sit through 22 mins of characters in a ballroom talking about nothing, only to make them do it again and make me watch the exact same shit play out once more I was so frustrated and annoyed that I stopped on the second loop and came to KZbin to find out how it ended cause wtf. Literally offended, did they think they could get away with that? I was like did they do this to save the cost of shooting other scenes or something. It was a piss take, I’ll prolly finish it later on but damn am butt hurt that they did that.

[@synthetic144]

Yeah what the hell was that about.. the people working on this show have no clue what they are doing .. garbage

[@Toughmittens]

Perfect comment. I liked it better than what this video has to say about it

[@mimirsvision9929]

Stop hurting yourself, just abandon this monstrosity

[@bakinghermit]

Same. Checked as well if I accidentally rewind the episode. It was really testing my patience

[@EmilyRabjerg]

i love your comment and thank you sharing yours thoughts. I haven't watched the witcher s3 and prolly wont later on. Only watched the other 2 seasons and also dont know the lore but im very confused throughout

[@meekaboi]

The Witcher netflix series plays as a teenage fanfiction of the book and video games that happens to cast legitimately good actors. The show will never be able to undo Yenn's attempted sacrifice of Ciri, something that completely goes against everything she stands for in both the books and the games. The writers wanted to Game of Thrones the Witcher and must have taken inspiration from only season 8.

[@JarmamStuff]

Yen would have sacrificed an entire town of people for a bit of power in a heartbeat. She would have taken most deals to get herself an advantage. The only person she wouldn't sell out is Ciri - and what do the showrunners decide on? At this point it has to qualify as weaponized incompetence.

[@bobloerakker7010]

Pfff i feel so sad for Henry, he deserves way better. I hope 40K is going to be a smashing success. For the emperor.

[@Azhalan]

That will largely depend on how faithful Amazon are going to stick to the source material. Rings of Power and Wheel of Time are the perfect example of how NOT to do it.

[@drbadenes]

@@Azhalan Henry Cavill is the one in charge. Is not just an actor, he´s the producer.

[@bobloerakker7010]

@@Azhalan 100% they need to stay the f away.

[@bobloerakker7010]

@@drbadenes exactly, i have faith he will stay true to the material.

[@Azhalan]

He is A producer. Most of the money will most certainly come from Amazon and other sources. He will certainly have a say in the matter, the question is how much that will be.

[@adb888]

That Wild Hunt scene threw me when I saw it - I thought Ciri was dreaming, and then I was shocked to find that she wasn't. How stupid was that...

[@LadyAhro]

So I'm very involved in fantasy and medieval inspired fashion and a few people who supposedly worked on S3 appeared in my favourite designer's Instagram stories. According to some extras and some people involved in production, the costume budget in particular is absolute ass this season. Background characters are in rented costumes from other productions or wearing whatever could be thrown together. And somebody traced Yennefer's awful purple blouse back to 2013 H&M, apparently. While I can frequently see the ghost of good choices (giving Yennefer puff sleeves is always a win, but the style of garment they're attached to? Not so much. Or playing with interesting hairstyles for Fringilla's coily texture) the execution is almost always lacking. This season we also got very visible fake nails, dubious wigs and orange foundation - particularly on Ciri. It shouldn't get to the point when I, a goth fan who likes clothes, suspect that I could have done better.

[@camchase9059]

That’s honestly crazy damn

[@warlordofbritannia]

If they cut the budget that drastically I’m wondering if they’re preparing to cancel…which would be a first, the first time Netflix canceled a bad show instead of a good one 😂

[@crystaliia]

The moment I saw Yen's and Ciri's outfits I thought they looked like discount H&M. I am not surprised thet Yen's shirt was actually traced back to be H&M.

[@Mordring]

Cosplayers at fantasy conventions have better costumes than the Witcher cast.

[@majoraakatsuki3984]

I can assure you, I bought better looking pleather for my cosplays than whatever junk Henry got to wear… and it wasn’t even expensive. It almost takes effort to find stuff this cheap looking.

[@jessicaferrari3987]

I'm so glad you mentioned the make up being "caked on" (which I just learnt in english, nice!)...it was bothering me soo much!!! Especially Ciri's face. I couldn't think of anything else other then "what the heck is ThAt on her face?!" in her scenes 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ladansemakabre]

right?? since s2 she looks so weird... why put SO much make up on her? weird ass decisions...

[@neveholmes1033]

I agree! The makeup artist really messed up there- she had obvious contour on her face after months in the woods!! 😂

[@NoOne-hl2eo]

I always feels like the make up artist did a really bad job since season 2, esp with Ciri. She looks so much older with that modern make up look.

[@Shadaaala]

Yeah my wife and I also discussed how weird she’s looking. It looked like a 12 yo doing make up her first time

[@pronetowanderstudios]

I did notice her makeup in a mad way, while the other ladies looked purposeful and I didn’t notice, I definitely noticed ciris

[@Kairac112]

Oh man, the book part at Metelle's temple or whatever, where Ciri learns magic from Yen and teases that guy that appeared in the one scene in the show whose name I will never remember, I loved that part in the books. It laid foundation to what magic actually is, why fire is dangerous and that there are consequences. Yet the show gives us Yen who uses fire magic and burns up her source of Chaos only to then magically getting it back when she slits her wrists. In the books, when Ciri uses fire magic, it's the last time she uses Chaos magic.

[@unigorn9281]

The show calls everything fire magic. But in the books they can use spells that involve fire, but they can't (shouldn't) use fire as a source of magic "energy". Yen never used it as a source but Ciri did and it took over her, which is why she lost magic abilities. The show is just messy

[@contra1124]

@@unigorn9281 I thought Ciri didn't want to have magic after that drawing from fire incident.

[@JayTCU]

Dude I was cringing HARD at some salvaging attempts they did in Part 1 of this season. I’m just done😂

[@truthtella3371]

wat were the attempts?

[@warlordofbritannia]

They would have been better off with “and then Geralt woke up” to get away from season 2 😂

[@JayTCU]

@@warlordofbritannia Not even being sarcastic that would be better. Just redo Blood of Elves in S3 that way

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@JayTCU They could have even said Season 2 was a nightmare caused by the Wild Hunt or Avalach or Vilgefortz for that matter

[@firstandlastnames8308]

Cool. I feel like you aren't, though. You'll be back complaining in two weeks.

[@Themagfairy]

It's so weird that Ciri acts or does something from the books where in the books she's like 8-12 but in the show she looks like she's 18. (Also her and yennifer look more like sisters than mother/daughter)

[@SirSulyvahn]

​@@sulcusulnarisBruh...

[@thedamnedatheist]

@@sulcusulnaris no that will come later.

[@DocOrtmeyer]

@@sulcusulnaris😂

[@NiallMerc]

​@@sulcusulnariswhat???

[@kaustubhjha6871]

​@@sulcusulnarislmao you left me in splits

[@artyfarts8006]

I just laughed out loud when Jaskier was told to go watch Ciri while Geralt and Yen went away to do whatever... then he proceeds to only watch her until she falls asleep and then gets distracted by Radovid so they can start making out. Then it cuts to Geralt and Yen and Yen says something like "nothing can get past the spell I put on her room." Jaskier didn't even have to be there except to conveniently spot Radovid and make out with him?

[@oscarlindvall1053]

My thought is that he, Radovid, serves as a decoy so that they can take Ciri. Have not read the books(and think the episode was awful) but that could still be the case?

[@artyfarts8006]

@@oscarlindvall1053 possibly. I haven't gotten there in the books yet, I'm on Blood of Elves. I still think it's stilly that they have a bard guarding Ciri when there's a defensive spell on the room. Just went to show that they couldn't think of another way to have Jaskier meet Radovid? It's all just weird.

[@wozerbozer4050]

@@oscarlindvall1053radovid is a child in the books and jaskier and radovid don’t meet at all both are the polor opposite of each others. Jaskier is a womanizer while radovid is a psychopath ruler who uses religion to kill all the other races in most brutal way possible. He also had Phillips’s eyes cut out. So yeah

[@Mocha_hun]

I’ve said this a million times the Geralt/ Yen chemistry from the show is painful. It just feels like an afterthought by Netflix and they’re like “Hey we should probably make the like each other”

[@threadyprawn8944]

I thought I was the only one with this opinion ever since season 1. It just feels forced compared to everyone else and I would just wonder why they like each other so much other than talking about their trauma and sleeping together.

[@Mocha_hun]

Exactly! They have no chemistry then boom Geralt admits he loves her. It was a travesty

[@lordcommandernox9197]

@@Mocha_hun I mean, she does have a magical box

[@alinac5512]

Season 1 I loved them, season 2 I was like "what is this" and season 3 I won't touch because of how bad season 2 was.

[@gazz3867]

They're just rolling relationship dice for every episode.

[@alexandercummins]

Just for a little context in the time of William Shakespeare (1564-1616 AD) it took 3 days to travel from, London to Stratford Upon Avon, which is only a distance of 103 miles. In the show Geralt is seen traveling several hundred miles to save Ciri in what appears to be less than an afternoon. I equate the two because they both seem to be in or around the middle ages time period. Perhaps as someone has commented they have fast travel in this show, I would like to add to that and suggest that the writers are using save points and making different dialogue options which is why the shows narrative from season 2 to 3 is disjointed.

[@535phobos]

Frodo needed full 2 days to get from Hobbiton to Buckland. Not even leaving the Shire. LotR is all about how long it takes from point A to point B, and fantasy writers should probably look at it more for inspiration

[@fantasywind3923]

@@535phobos yeah...Tolkien was meticulous worldbuilder and was seriously working out on geography and time of travel, hell he made sure that Frodo journey time was reflecting the actual moon phases...now tha's dedication...while Sapkowski is not nearl as meticulous worldbuilder as Tolkien, and he never even made an actual official map he still worked through writing to give some sense of geography...and the next witcher book which netflix show will start butchering in season 4 deals heavily with difficulties of travel there is one scene in that book where Geralt calculates the distance to cover: "'So why do you stand here alone in the moonlight?' 'I'm counting.' 'Huh?' 'Since we left Brokilon, twelve days have passed, during which we have travelled about sixty miles. Ciri, so the rumors say, is in Nilfgaard, the capital of the empire, a place that separates me by two thousand five hundred miles. A simple calculation shows that at this rate I'll get there in a year and four months. What do you say to that?' 'Nothing.' Milva shrugged her shoulders and cleared her throat again." Witcher, Baptism of Fire And when it comes to Geralt saving Ciri from Wild Hunt, in the book Time of Contempt Geralt is actually following the Yennefer and Ciri, or rather shadowing their movements to some degree keeping thungs off their back like the Professor the famous assassin he kills, in book they were follwoing Yennefer and Ciri as they travelled to Gors Velen port city, close by to the isle of Thanedd and Geralt after dispatching those was nearby....several miles away from the city in the farming land of Hirundum and Ciri learned he is close and escaped Yennefer to meet with him (for at this point in books Geralt and Yennefer have not seen each other, they only contacted through letters on actual distance for it's been years since they last saw each other and Ciri was first with Geralt until he travelled with her to temple of Melitele and went hunting for Rience and answers to the questions and helping secure her safety while Yennefer was given message in the letter to travel to the temple of Melitele in Ellander to train Ciri in magic....Time of Contempt book and the events of Ciri's escape lead to Geralt and Yennefer first reunion. Witcher books also work out particular geography of this world: "Aplegatt rose and looked around. Downhill was a river and behind it were forests. The courier rushed his horse. Time was pressing on. He was on his way for the past two days. King's orders and letters found him in Hagge, where he was resting after his return from Tretogor. He left the castle at night, galloping along the left bank of Pontar, he crossed the border of Temeria before dawn and now, at noon of the following day, he was already near the bank of Ismena. Had king Foltest stayed at Vizima, Aplegatt would have handed him the message just this night. Unfortunately, the king was not in the capital - he stayed in the southern part of his country, in Maribor, two hundred miles away from Vizima. Aplegatt knew this, which is why in the vicinity of the White Bridge he left the main, west-leading road in favour of forest paths in the direction of Ellander. It was a bit risky. The Squirrels still prowled the forests and pitiful was the lot of one who got in their arms or found himself in the range of their bows. But the royal messenger must take risks. Such is his work." Basic worldbuilding! "'As you wish. It's not hard to figure that Yennefer is going on the convent of Wizards, which will take place on the Thanedd Island in Garstang at the beginning of July. She's moving slyly, doesn't use magic, so it's hard to trace her. She was still in Ellander a week ago, so I presume that it will take her three, four more days to reach the city Gors Velen, just a stone throw away from Thanedd. On the way of Gors Velen she will have to go through Anchor village. If you set out now you will be able to take out those who are following her. Because, indeed, she is being followed.'" ... "'Leave it, Heim.' The man with the glasses gestured. 'He's a royal messenger. Not a troublemaker. What is the name of this establishment, innkeeper?' 'Anchor.' 'And how far to Gors Velen?' 'What?' 'How many miles?' 'Me, I never measured it in miles. But it must be three days travel...' 'By horse?' 'By cart.' " ... "Molnar,' she said coldly. 'Let sleeping dogs lie. I doubt that he still considers me dear to him, and if he finds out about the erased debt, he will hate me even more. You know him, how obsessed with honour he is. How long ago was he in Dorian?' 'About ten days ago. He has been spotted later in Little Meadow. From there, as I was informed, he rode to Hirundum, answering the notice of local peasants. A monster, as usual.'" ... "'These poor souls,' she interrupted, 'probably had nowhere to run. Fabio? Where's the town... Hirundum?' The boy gave her a confused look. 'Hirundum's not a town,' he corrected. 'It's a huge farm. There are orchards and gardens providing vegetables and fruit to all towns in the region. There are also many ponds with carps and other fish...' 'How far is Hirundum? Which way is it? Show me.' 'Why would you need to know that?' 'I asked you to show me.' 'See that road, leading west? The one the wagons are at? That's the road to Hirundum. About fifteen miles, through the woods.' 'Fifteen miles', Ciri repeated after him. 'Not far for a good horse... Thank you, Fabio.' "

[@daarom3472]

Geralt showed us the meaning of haste like Shadowfax did.

[@daarom3472]

​@@535phobosGoT also nailed this in the first few seasons, like how the Lannister army had to ride day and night to salvage King's landing, or how it took Rob weeks to assemble an army, march to the twins, bargain a crossing etc. etc. When the showrunners took over we saw teleporting armies and ships.

[@fantasywind3923]

@@daarom3472 what;s funny is that one can actually try to calculate how fast is Shadowfax and his unusual speed is due to his special origin as a mearas, a special 'magical' breed of horses with greater strength, stamina, speed hehe, I mean one even with Shadowfax needs some time to cross the vastness of Middle-earth hehe for example: when Pippin and Gandalf ride him from Dol Baran (where they camped with the Rohirrim shortly after leaving Isengard) to Minas Tirith. According to Appendix B ("The Tale of Years"), they leave Dol Baran during the night on March 5, and arrive at Minas Tirith at dawn on the 9th. When they first meet, Gandalf tells Denethor that it was a journey of 150 leagues (450 miles, about 724 km). Since they only travel at night, that's 4 nights of riding. :)

[@putrid2529]

The fact that Radovid keeps his mouth open for half his scenes were the visual version of nails on a chalk board.

[@OneInTheMosh]

Thank you for making this, so that I don't have to actually watch the show

[@filipecabralpinto]

where i do understand your sentiment i honestly think you're missing out. this season was, at least, quite enjoyable where it made sense. they completely deserve the thrashing they are getting review-wise, but i still think the season deserves a watch. It doesnt have to be on netflix though, wink wink. i just hope they dont completely obliterate it on the second part, but its netflix, in the wise words of videogame dunkey, "they'll find some way to fuck it up".

[@siggbert]

Watch it, it’s actually really good👌

[@indigobuntz3564]

@@filipecabralpinto I agree, I didn't like season 1 and absolutely hated season 2, but season 3 is kind of okay. As someone who loves The Witcher's world, it's just nice to watch something related, even if it's not that good.

[@ramigebriel3427]

REAL

[@Lance_Lionroar]

@@filipecabralpinto See, you're wrong for 2 reasons: 1. I can't get invested in this show anymore after witnessing all the character assassination of season 2 2. I refuse to get invested in this show knowing Geralt will simply not exist for the rest of the story when he's the god damn protagonist (or worse, be swapped with another actor while we pretend it's still Geralt)

[@charlespc]

And that sir, it's why Henry left this soulless series

[@warlordofbritannia]

I’ll never understand why studios turn “adaptations” into effective fan fiction. What’s the thought process-is it hubris? If they don’t believe the original material was good why are they even adapting to begin with?

[@charlespc]

​@@warlordofbritanniaI think the same, they should stick to the original material, i don't understand Why they don't do It. It's the easiest thing to do.

[@dronysus6435]

@@charlespc They don't do it because they have these massive egos and think they are better writers than the author of massively popular books.

[@joseaguilar3323]

He actually left because WB offered him his Superman gig back.

[@twinzzlers]

​@@joseaguilar3323He also hated show, dude is a huge nerd lol.

[@cosmic-creepers9207]

No surprise Cavill left. He probably went home and threw up after seeing the sacrilege of Netlix’s Jaskier Radovid plot line.

[@pieswimmer1]

It's so creepy and weird.

[@fongcha4933]

ruined everything

[@grey21hunter20]

I read the books but dont remember radovid, was he important?

[@cosmic-creepers9207]

@@grey21hunter20 He’s a small boy and the son of King Vizimir.

[@Ascaron1337]

​@@grey21hunter20Mate, did you even watch the video? It's explained in detail.

[@kateray7]

"Is there anything less Yennefer like then months and months of groveling?" Exactly! Thank you for addressing this. Literally continue to murder her character. Also the Thaned ball was the worst written episode of television I've seen. It was incomprehensible. I love how the writers thought they were being super clever and us the audience were stupid fools that needed everything explained to them as "not all is at it seems" plays 7000 times in the background 😮‍💨

[@mrs.h2725]

I guess that was Lauren’s attempt at trying to redeem the insane choice she made in the previous season to have Yen betray Geralt and Ciri, but it just further destroys the core of the character. Yen is proud and stubborn but also very loyal, and keeps to her own sort of moral rules. So she’d of never tried to betray them in the first place, and sure as shit wouldn’t be groveling to anyone. Other commenters are correct that Geralt in the books/games would’ve of course killed Yen for that, so making her a begging pitiful simp was the best they could come up with to keep them in the storyline together? You can really tell how much they hate the source material.

[@chaoticsoul1606]

Off topic; but when I saw Queen Charlotte, in ep 4 they did the similar thing. They repeated the entirety of first 3 episodes line by line from king george’s perspective. And then there’s this screenplay for fifth episode of the witcher. I wonder what’s going on in Netflix

[@rockmegently]

😂

[@edelleaa]

the "all is not as it seems" song line very 5 seconds was driving me insane ... WE GET IT ITS NOT ALL AS IT SEEMS MY GOD

[@nemlas85]

@@mrs.h2725 "she’d of never tried" - hey, my inner grammar nazi wants to burn down houses, I could only push it back behind the facade of civility by making this comment here

[@nikolasthethief]

Jaskier and Radovid romance put a final nail in the coffin of the show for me.

[@jakpote88]

when one of the protagonist has a relationship with fantasy hitler

[@Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

For me, the final nail on the coffin for the show to me was killing Eskel.

[@ojroche5217]

@@Practitioner_of_DiogenesYep. I thought the show was a decent mess before that. Eskel’s character assassination is where I began to hate it. And after that, it just goes downhill, characters completely making choices their actual characters would never make. They have Geralt putting Ciri in imminent danger. Yen sacrifices Ciri to the witch. Vesemir sways Ciri to undergo the grass trials and then tries to kill her. The writers never picked up the damn books and it shows.

[@Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

@@ojroche5217 Oh, it absolutely was a mess before Eskel's death. It was a mess before the first episode of season 1 aired, to be honest, with how wrong the characters were casted, as the books are rather clear how certain characters look.

[@ladansemakabre]

Tissaia x Vilgefortz is also 🤐...

[@AG-ur1lj]

18:20 - I also liked this scene, but I wish they’d done something to acknowledge the fact that Geralt 100% would have been able to hear every word of that conversation

[@gn-z1118]

Right? It would’ve been even funnier and book accurate since his senses are quite sharp!

[@Evelyn_Okay]

This show is a perfect example of why we need the writer's strike. You can't have 12 people write an entire season in a week, ban them from set, and let only the credited writers make revisions.

[@daggern15]

Sorry but these are just hack writers and some moron further up gave the all clear on the terrible writing. Netflix has got the funds to pay their staff adequately and has shown with The Witcher that they're fine taking their time to get it made. It just comes as such as slap in the face that they take so long to polish a turd. Such a shame no-one would listen to Henry.

[@orkhepaj]

woke useless writers

[@lefterismplanas4977]

We also need to learn that adaptations need to be faithful to what they're adaptating. The fans are in love with the material for a reason. A single screen writer can not possibly revise/rewrite something that fans loved enough to spark an adaptation. Heck. Even the og writer couldn't possibly do that

[@TheWeedmonkey123]

How about hiring strikebreakers from Estern Europe who will be cheaper and way more competent?

[@la_engineer]

@@lefterismplanas4977 nope, they don't have to be faithful...they can make it better and not worst. Things that work in the books sometimes don't work in television. But the authors doesn't like the books and laughed about the books behind the scenes. I don't care about the series, that is not the witcher from the books or games....that is something else. In the end they will right some multiverse stuff in the series and so they explain the change of Geralt and than they will cancel the witcher after season 4 :D

[@boredofmindgames4662]

I think the issue is the writers really don’t respect the fantasy genre so they thought they could get away with whatever they wanted.

[@ryomaanime4563]

Yeah they don't want to make some "basic" fantasy and want to twist it their way They don't understand that a good quality "basic" fantasy is what we want. But you're right it's because they have no love or even respect for fantasy. To them it's just an opportunity to evolve their career

[@shuntao3475]

I disagree. They are fine with Fantasy; they just disrespect the Witcher Material. It's a writers' room of feminists and it shows in the story telling.

[@siyrean]

@@shuntao3475 they destroy yennifers bad ass character because of feminism? Okay, I just think they’re bad writers.

[@CodeShudder]

@@ryomaanime4563 The problem is The Witcher is not some basic fantasy. There are actually deep philosophical and sociological discourses going on there, but they were too cheeky and couldn't see past fable-like setting and decided to make up their own depth with such a pathetic result, that it would be laughable if it wasn't so irritating. It's like they tried to tell you the joke, they didn't understand themselves.

[@fantooo]

I really hope Henry gets what he deserves in one point in his lifetime. To be part of a real epic like, LOTR.

[@furiscafynn6275]

Mr Cavill is making a Warhammer series for amazon!! He's a massive fan of Warhammer 40k, so hopefully it won't go off the deep end like this did

[@BobbyFlay14]

Update. Same thing happening to warhammer 4k. Guy can’t catch a break

[@strwbrrygirlxo]

The whole Jaskier and Radovid thing was 💀...

[@0MJF0]

Making Dandelion bisexual is such a bad and unnecessary choice. There is 0 reason to change him as he is such a unique character in the witcher world. He is in touch with his emotions, sings songs rather than swings swords and uses his wit to get out of danger. Contrasting him to the more stereotypical macho men that are so common in the books is a great example of representation. Not all men have to be brigands, warriors or drunkards. Yet Lauren takes one look at a man who is in touch with what would be considered 'non traditional gender traits', and concludes that he can't be straight? Way to make your show less diverse by trying to force diversity for no reason. And I didn't even talk about his paramour being Radovid yet ffs.

[@Justanotherguy83]

That's the character arc I cannot get over. I'm sure y'all know who have read books and played games. Dandelion is a whoremonger lol. He loves women folk not radovidfolk. Being bi is fine but it does not sit well with me with dandelion or Jaskier whatever we are calling him 😎✌️

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@0MJF0 It’s so weird, isn’t it? Dandelion is basically the epitome of “free love” but I guess Netflix didn’t respect the intelligence of the audience enough and had to make him-is flamboyant considered offensive?-bisexual so he didn’t seem like a fuckboi

[@jakpote88]

@@warlordofbritannia i could imagine dandelion sleeping with a man, but RADOVID????

[@TheWanderer-o2n]

Dandy fucked fantasy hitler 💀

[@killerkatzfoolz]

I'm so glad someone else thought Ciri's makeup is god awful. Honestly that was the worst part of the entire season for me lol; I was so distracted by it. XD

[@flynnlea]

Ikr, it’s absolutely caked on. And that’s even after it was toned down from the last season. I also can’t deal with Yen’s really dark prominent lip liner.

[@poisonbiscuits]

Overall the makeup in the show is atrocious, obvious false eyelashes everywhere, modern looking eyeshadow, drawn on blocky eyebrows and Triss' gel manicure was the cherry on top

[@kgacalendar]

That also really stuck out to me. I more or less anticipated it was some built-up to a new (randomly invented) disease or similar. It's also in *every* scene, so it's not just a single bad day. Really weird and more than a little off-putting.

[@flynnlea]

@@poisonbiscuits I didn't even notice the gel manicure 💀

[@grischnach2556]

Graham McTavish is always a joy to watch in every role.

[@JarmamStuff]

He is the biggest waste in this show after Cavill. What a travesty, esp after he was done somewhat ok'ish in s2.

[@hel59]

Something that has really thrown me off this season is the set/costume design. There are obvious design inspirations from different parts of our non-fictional world, e.g. medieval Eastern Europe, India, Arabia, Africa; however, there is no grounding of why these cultures would appear in the Continent. Usually, a fictional world will have geographical distinctions that explain different cultures, but The Witcher doesn't explain these differences and instead jumbles them all together. It makes the world seem really unbelievable

[@insertname2035]

It's fantasy.

[@hel59]

@@insertname2035 Game of Thrones is also fantasy but it defines its geography. Westeros, Essos and Sothoryos are different continents with different cultures and proves that a fantasy world can be well written

[@KevinOnEarth_]

@@insertname2035- You could not have made it more apparent to everyone that you have zero understanding when it comes to immersion and proper “world building” within a fantasy setting. Nothing, and I mean nothing, is more ignorant than what you just said. Congratulations, you played yourself.

[@LordLambertius]

@@insertname2035 Fantasy doesn't have to mean completely unrealistic though. There are reasons why people are different and what not. People living in a cool northern climate for dozens of generations aren't going to look subsaharan, or dress in arabic garbs you'd see in a very hot climate.

[@insertname2035]

@@hel59 that was a personal choice by the author. It's his fantasy world. Keep up. He can stick to that format of defining cultures by continent or make up his own rules. Just like he did with the seasons lasting years at a time. If you are looking for realism in a genre like fantasy, and are getting triggered that things are different, then pick up another book

[@alielbassiony4194]

The worst thing is the wrong adaptations of characters ( Dandelion and Radovid for example)

[@justlivin2499]

Radovid in Netflix: 😇 Radovid in the games: 💀

[@alielbassiony4194]

@@william4x4yea such a blunder

[@alielbassiony4194]

@@justlivin2499radovid had so much potential

[@stc3145]

And how beautiful mages like Margarita is played by a overweight black woman. And half the other cast being black as if the Northern Kingdoms were like modern central London

[@itisyerdad]

Your replies are full of racists. Yuk.

[@DoomPotato]

Don't worry guys! They told us that season 4 will be much, much better and will stick to the books! Because you know - we can trust these amazing writers.

[@mamanaturae2055]

Well if the fourth season would stick to the books, Henry would never have left, so f*** you, Showrunners🙄

[@johnwiks2597]

Can't fault Cavill for leaving this train-wreck of a show. The writer's literally spit on the character's and Sapkowski

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

@@diomedes7971 It's kind of like George RR Martin. It's weird that such talented writers have to be such personally shitty people. It's one of the reasons I prefer reading Brandon Sanderson works these days. He doesn't have the massive ego that other writers seem to develop.

[@AliasSchmalias]

@@diomedes7971 It brings a smile to your face seeing other people suffer? Are you okay?

[@chrisprilloisebola]

​@@diomedes7971lol ok. It's still his story and universe

[@ZephyrFate]

@@diomedes7971lol agreed. Love that the writer is fucking seething 😂

[@arttrumbo9496]

​@@Spectacular_InsanityI hate to break it to you, but Brandon Sanderson has a huge ego as well. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's as bad as Martin, and I love his books.

[@ermine1448]

I forgot season 3 was out

[@garrettlogue4249]

So did most people, I imagine.

[@tomasmacpro5391]

I don't even want to see this shit!

[@mikeroni]

I didn’t realize they were repeating scenes, thought my Netflix glitched and started fast forwarding 😂

[@dennisv7824]

"hey lets make the fans happier by having Radovid and Jaskier turn gay for eachother" truly starting to believe that Lauren has deep resentment towards all of us

[@jvinsantos6861]

I wonder why they didn't just go with Priscilla x Jaskier instead they just always wants to represent man to man instead..

[@flynnlea]

And they have absolutely no chemistry on top of it all. I really don’t think jaskier gets enough screen time to make it worth shoving an extra romance in there. Especially when it’s pretty tokenistic, and Ciri canonically has a gay relationship anyway. Although they’re probably going to cut the rats out of the show so who knows if the actual queer relationship in the books will even happen lol

[@andersnilsson4589]

And to not forget that the writer was like -“Let’s have Jaskier and Radovid have a romance” -“But Jaskir is about 40 and Radovid is 12…” ………

[@INVICII]

the woman who pickpockets Ciri just before Ciri fights/kills the young Wyvern is who they cast for Mistle.

[@ReneAensland]

​@@andersnilsson4589lol typical Hollywood.

[@FrancisFabricates]

Tbh I also agree about the lack of chemistry. I have never really gotten over how amazing his chemistry was with Renfri, if they could do that with a single episode how did they fail so badly with Yen and Geralt?

[@gendouikari1385]

diversity

[@HeathsHarleyQuinn]

I hated Renfri - thought they had 0 chemistry. But I don't think Yen has chemistry with Geralt in the show either. Frankly Geralt should just be Ciri's Dad and everything else should just be to the side.

[@gustavogoesgomes1863]

I feel like that's because cavill is off for geralt and anya is off for yen. don't get me wrong, both of them are amazing actors and deserves all praise, but I never felt like cavill represented geralt very well. he's too expressive. it's usually what you go for a protagonist in a show revolving around a main character, but geralt is a weird character in the books. for me, what sells their chemistry in the books is that both geralt and yen act as emotionally detached and excessively pragmatist, in opposite ways of manifesting coldness. however, this hides a vulnerable and passionate personality. that's why they are so violently attracted: they act kinda opposite, but at the same feels the same way inside. most relationships that they form revolve around people that understands how they truly feel inside, that's where their chemistry lie for me. as crazy as this sounds, I think cavill would actually be way more suited to protray cahir. cahir is the naive, idealist knight that defies his duty to do what he believes is right. he feels like he must protect ciri and even defies geralt himself, eventually. actually, thinking about this just makes me sad remembering what netflix did to cahir on the series...

[@poisonbiscuits]

Cavill doesn't have chemistry with anyone tbh, he's just really overrated as an actor. Anya is great but she's nothing like Yen because of the material she has to work with

[@16m49x3]

@@poisonbiscuits Yennefer is bad in every single scene...

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

"You nearly sold me to a demon last season" "I only did because it was in the script. There's none of that in the next episodes, check it out."

[@SingingSealRiana]

This IS perfection

[@jvinsantos6861]

Geralt x Renfri had more genuine chemistry in S1 than Geralt x Yen combined for these seasons..

[@freefolkgaming]

facts

[@JoshuaVardaman]

@Neon Knight - I think this is quite a fair assessment. I enjoyed the attention to detail, and how you expressed that this season paid for the sins of Season 2. I'm still incredibly upset that a writer who wished to remain true to the storyline and Cavill are leaving because of what happened, and I'm not sure I will continue to watch beyond the finale of season 3. Thanks for taking time to do this review.

[@noadr5gon]

I think the best part about the premeire is that I had literally forgotten that Yen had tried to sell Ciri out, so their plan kind of worked. The only thing I remember happening is that the characters said that it happened

[@dhardy45]

This was a flawless analysis. The writers made the job of bringing the story and characters to life so much harder by spending half the season undoing all the BS they did during their crack binge of season 2. I’m so disappointed in what this series has become, because it could’ve been The Last of Us, but we were given The Mario Brothers with Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo.

[@captaincodypotato8386]

For real, I kept thinking of TLOU when watching this season of the Witcher. Like I CAN BE DONE just DO IT but it's too late now. RIP The Witcher, Season 1 to Season 1. 😂

[@thebecksbeerboy583]

It really seems like they change their whole script after every season, maybe they will take it in a new direction in season 4 as well, I really can't see the story stay true to the books with „Other dimension Geralt“ (That's not really how dimensions in the Witcher work, they aren't dimensions with the same people in different ways but every dimension seems to have its own individual people)

[@lemongreed7916]

Yennefer in season 1: dressed like she's at a prom Yennefer in season 3: dressed like a uni student Character arc

[@damian1725]

Fr that purple blouse is straight out of H&M

[@streetside2833]

I feel so bad for the 3 main actors, I like them all they've just been given shite to work with Also Tessia I like her character and the fact she played a character in the Witcher 3 gives her extra points

[@ScienceDiscoverer]

I hope you do not include Yennifer in this 3 main actors group.

[@jakubkucharczyk5255]

We now have season three and I still don't understand why they made Vilgefortz losing so easily to Cahir in swordfight during season one. In the books, Vilgefortz was arguably the most dangerous human being when it comes to combat and Cahir would not be a match to him. I initially thought that they are gonna make Cahir the ultimate villain instead, but then, during season 2 and season 3, Cahir got beaten by various unimportant guards or soldiers a couple of times. So I really don't know what was the point of that swordfight in season one, none gained anything from it.

[@misstweetypie1]

I’m doing a rewatch to see if they laid a foundation for the Vilguefortz plot twist, and I noticed this as well. If Vilguefortz is hundreds of years old, there is no way that he would either a) waste his magical energy so quickly doing such a dumb thing as throwing and retrieving his sword multiple times, and b) would lose that easily in a fight with a human.

[@thebecksbeerboy583]

I have the feeling they actually had these plot points you mentioned in mind but changed them. It feels like they change their whole plans after every season making multiple important seeming scenes absolutely unimportant

[@Theeldritchwitch]

​@misstweetypie1 I thought Vilgefortz is younger than Yennefer (about the age of Triss).

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Considering how easily he fucks up Geralt in the books - so badly that it continues to cause him pain through the rest of the story - it was stupid to make him appear weak - but hey, clearly the writers are indeed stupid.

[@misstweetypie1]

@@Theeldritchwitch even still, Vilguefortz should have decades of skill on the black night, no way he would make stupid mistakes like that in a real combat situation. The whole scene felt out of character and unrealistic.

[@debapom]

Man these are always a joy to watch, your review of this comedy series, i mean.

[@re__ng1806]

"Parody Batman Elf" Made me lose my $#!T with laughter

[@LoneCat2137]

Bro, I was so confused with them calling Radovid the brother of Vizimir because I thought he was supposed to be his son. I really started questioning my memory of the books because of it, but now I at least know it's Netflix that got it wrong, not me

[@radekdickinson5772]

You'll definitely get a like from me - great video I'll rewatch multiple times. The structure and narration are unbelievably well done, the humour is seamlessly implemented. Thank you for your great work.

[@smolkafilip]

1) Adapt a beloved existing IP with lots of backstory in place. 2) Ignore backstory, completely reversing the relationships between main characters. 3) The stories you plan to adapt now dont work. 4) The stories you plan to adapt now dont work.

[@neromain3504]

Dude you nailed it absolutely this season is just sad radovid is the biggest disappointment i just dont understand how they manage to ruin so many characters its one thing to try and adapt the books and fix their mistakes from season 2 but then attempting to take some of the most important parts of the games while all jumbled together in this fucked up timeline the show is more like a fanfiction written by a 12 year old

[@captaincodypotato8386]

Season 3 brought to you by King Radovid, the book version. 😂

[@Ren99510]

I am in awe you were able to watch this season. I just couldn't handle anymore after season 2. Hell, I should have learned my lesson in season 1, so really it's on me.

[@duckonquack6969]

Same

[@macrograms]

I likewise had an amazing amount of ducks* to give this season. * zero. I have zero ducks.

[@janekmundt579]

I went in with 0 expectations and I actually enjoyed it. Way better than season 2 imo, if you like less action and more personal scenes between the main characters

[@Ren99510]

@@janekmundt579 Sorry, but I can't just forget season 2 ever happened like the showrunners want. Hell, I haven't even read the BOOKS and I was still livid with what they did to the characters.

[@aldencormany5314]

I read the books and played the games, and I was so confused this whole season, it felt like they were trying so hard to correct their mistakes that it lost all momentum and sense.

[@kirakovacs4877]

You know, the sad thing is, this show distorted characters so much in previous seasons, that when you joked about Yen suggesting to sacrifice Ciri to another demon, I didn't even question it... I'm really debating whether I should watch it or not

[@JaneDoe-ym7de]

No, you shouldn’t watch it. I stopped half way through season 2 and went back to the game as well as being now onto the third book. The more people watch this show, the less the writers fail. There’s nothing more that I want than for the writers to fail hard and the show to stop being produced.

[@hopethishelps91]

I stopped 10 minutes into the second episode. I couldn't deal with the writing. Its awful. Like Twilight/young adult level bad.. Also characters just know things without being told and just randomly show up to places.

[@kirakovacs4877]

@@JaneDoe-ym7de Yeah, you are right. I'm just a completionist, and don't want to form opinion about something I don't actually know. But since I skipped Blood Origin, I might as well stop watching the main story too

[@kirakovacs4877]

@@diomedes7971 I agree, but I guess most of us really wanted to give the show a second or even a third chance. That maybe the writers listen to the viewers and Cavill, and stick to the books. Instead, they made things even worse...

[@KevinOnEarth_]

Don’t! It’s hot garbage. Just watch all the reviews like this one breaking down each scene and you’ll feel like you’ve “completed” the show while laughing at how badly the writers fucked it up.

[@HEKVT]

Season 3 felt like a small step in the right direction, but it's too little, too late. One thing I did like as a personal preference is how they did episode 5, with the same event being shown from different perspective.

[@warlordofbritannia]

It’s like trying to fix the Titanic with duct tape

[@yanndylan2239]

Netflix is banking on casuals or game fans who haven't read the books(me). I started season 3 yesterday and in just episode 1 it definitely felt like there was damage control especially with Yennefer caus3 of her choices in season 2. I thought with what they had to work with they pulled it off the best they could. I'll have to keep watching to see how the rest pans out

[@JaneDoe-ym7de]

The only right direction this show can step into is the sun.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

@@yanndylan2239 The irony is that casuals are the ones who will MOST miss Henry Cavill, since his screen presence is arguably more important to a casual viewer than the actual content or accuracy to the books.

[@cleo_girl]

this is the most accurate review I've watched!

[@daniwanicki]

I noticed the caked on makeup too, for some reason they botched Ciri's face. I personally like the first 2 seasons but it's quickly going downhill for many of the reasons you mentioned. 5/10 is a fair review.

[@kahlannightwing]

Thank you for making me feel like I'm not crazy the several times I went 'wtf is going on'. lol Good review!

[@macjabeth5073]

Your summarisation of the new elf had me dying. 😂 Which is sad, cuz I really liked the actor behind him in other roles.

[@MrHulthen]

Thank you for always being real my guy. "Meh" is probably the closest i'd describe this third season so far.

[@tythebard]

Based on this Review this show Reminds me of a D&D campaign that's gone off the rails and the DM is trying to fix things for the next session lol

[@MariusNinjai]

Ciri riding that horse looked so stupid i could't but laugh at it definetly thought she was dreaming

[@LordThomasPassion]

Remember Henry Cavil left for a reason. Something bad is coming up.

[@alphastratus6623]

I don't know if I want to know how much rewriting they did after Cavil made the enouncement of leaving, but I would bet there was a lot.

[@Halterin11]

Bro, something bad already came up for 2 seasons. THAT's why it happened.

[@KyriToe]

​@@alphastratus6623 Ciri becoming the next president of United States of whatever the name they gave to the place they live

[@Aidar77]

Taking into consideration how much BS propaganda we get from this show, the next thing we see is Geralt, Jaskier and Radovid having a threesome. As if this series was not gross enough.

[@EvilMalaise]

Wtf?? I thought the whole thing about Jaskier being in a relationship with Radovid it was a joke or a fake rumor, why with Radovid from all people?

[@paulypipes1]

They made him gay to appeal their esg score

[@madison5822]

I read the book for season 2 and literally thought I read the wrong book because it was so freaking different. I have low expectations.

[@emilyemily444]

I gave up after season 2 and I'm so glad I didn't waste my time on season 3. We love you Sir Cavill and we know none of this is your fault. We wish you well on future endeavours and you'll always be our Geralt 🪙 🐺🗡

[@jakewartooth]

I haven't watched any of the show but I like your witcher 3 videos so I'm tuning in anyway lol

[@12345.......]

Don't waste your time with the show. The recaps on this channel are much better.

[@corey57255]

Gallatin had one redeemable trait in that he was hot and sexy. Which is why he had his shirt off for the death scene lol

[@nhemo5855]

i really love what you did with editing and the very fainted music

[@marty.m2933]

I think the main problem lies in a complete misunderstanding of the original. And while this season was a step in the right direction, that main problem hasn't changed. The main strength of the books has always been the characters, their relationships, and how they are affected by the world they have to adapt to and grapple with. The show, on the other hand, focuses on the plot and how the characters affect the world. Sapkowski always used the world of The Witcher as a way to talk about social problems and moral issues - very relevant today and very progressive for Poland at the end of the communist era. (While of course also playing with Central and Eastern European history or European legends). But he never did it in a blunt and violent way of virute signaling: he always examined the issue with extreme care from many angles, until there was no good and evil, but only points of view, where one might take a position but actually understand the other side and sympathize with it. Further, one of his favorite things was deconstructing classic fantasy stereotypes - especially those about fate, prophecy, and predestination. Lauren correctly observed that all of these were talked about a lot, and again - made it a traditional fantasy about the fate of the world. Only, that's exactly what Sapkowski didn't want. He wanted to subvert the reader's expectations and show them something they've seen a hundred times before in 80s and 90s fantasy and take it in a whole new direction, and he did it with absolute precision, in my opinion.

[@huitsi4106]

This is by far one of the best reviews even without the last 3 episodes. Just recently binged it with a friend, it was better than Season 2 for sure and had it's issues. And every point you brought up is what my feelings were after watching it and I couldn't put to words exactly. Very good job.

[@justlivin2499]

They ruined my favorite boi Cahir’s book character arc, I shall never forgive them

[@ladansemakabre]

same. watching Cahir in the show is so painful, i can't stand him even tho he's one of my favorite characters in the books...

[@Geffi01]

It's more offending than ever. Making Jaskier sucking up Radovids tongue was the last scene I ever watched of this shitshow.

[@frank_texas7400]

Netflix management are just a bunch of idiots, the series should have been taking a contract, killing a monster and banging a sorceress rinse and repeat while the world around goes to hell the Witcher just cares about a few coins so he can get booze gamble and make people hide the wenches cause the witcher is coming

[@bobbi7990]

That sounds like a you problem

[@Geffi01]

@@bobbi7990 I don't think so.

[@digitalempirellc6118]

@@Geffi01wont watch it cause of this weird netflix trend where they try to get everyone gay. Like enough is enough, I dont wanna a dude sticking it up me bum netflix

[@jaymckeown7601]

"You tried to sacrifice me to a daemon, that was rude" Better dialogue than what's in the actual show

[@Tarryk]

My wife and I have not read the books nor have we played the games, we just love fantasy settings and agree that Henry Cavill is the coolest nerd in Hollywood. That being said, I mostly agree with this review. We didn't understand a lot of what was happening in season 2 and there were so many awkward moments we ended up confused. Even watching the recap before going into S3 part 1, we were like "okay well we still don't understand what most of the characters motivations are, maybe season 3 will fix that"... aaaand now it's worse because all of their motivations seem to have done a complete 180, the dozen or so storylines are interwoven by weirdly arbitrary dialog, and yeah why is Batman Elf even here oh he's dead now okay fine. BUT it's not a complete disaster yet. I understand now thanks to this vid why it feels like season 3 is doing an about-face with every character. Here's to hoping s3 part 2 has reacquired a decent pacing.

[@YouTubeCensors]

You got a lot of hope. Keep watching trash like this and that'll be empty soon enough

[@maxwellsdemon10]

I 100% agree. If you aren't aware of the source material the story is really hard to follow. The pacing is all over the place and the characters are very poorly motivated...

[@Alienoiable]

Do yourself a favour once the show is done and gone and read the books. They're every easy to read and very enjoyable.

[@Seggsy_Salami]

S3 part 2 isnt better- i feel bad for you 😭

[@Theta40]

My favorite part of the Witcher series is Yarpin. That actor is a freaking hero. I would watch a spin-off series about The Adventures of Yarpin. 😄

[@dronysus6435]

As long as they didn't use these writers.

[@Michelle___xoxoxoxo]

Yes, love him!

[@alaia-awakened]

That dude is really giving it all he’s got. Hope to see that actor in more!

[@dovahkiin5499]

18:56 that’s because Netflix chose the wrong actress for the job, I really tried to like Netflix Yennefer but she’s just not it.

[@majorbombas]

Even if it's just MEH(5/10) i won't watch it purely because of how netflix tried to paint Cavill as a bad guy for asking to make things more in line with books. That's said i would want to see Liam version of Geralt, just NOT in the Netflix witcher but a series that is done by someone who respects source material. I do not know how capable of an actor he is, but it's better if he would start his "Geralt" from nothing - Scrapping this series, and making new one with new cast. Ciri needs to be alot younger(Maybe the girl who played Leia in Kenobi series), this Yennefer doesn't work for me(Anya even tho is pretty i feel like she does not look like Yennefer at all, and her wardrobe also doesn't match WHAT Yennefer is supposed to be like, and she isn't a good actress)

[@khanriza]

Thank you for pointing out that whole Radovid/Jaskier story line. Now I know, not watching this bullshit was the correct choice.

[@JelloFluoride]

Yep, I won't even bootleg this trash. Making Dandelion gay was the last straw.

[@Brod9320]

@@JelloFluorideBi* and it’s not that deep

[@alphastratus6623]

@@JelloFluoride If you seriously have looked at this character you would have known that this dude is all about love on it's own, and make him a bi character fit him even more than being straight. You only want to spread hate here, and that's not the place for it. Most 'woke' decisions are very questionable in this series, but you choose that single one that's not. That's pathetic.

[@Kyuukami]

For me it's the fact that it's Radovid (even if it's name only/completely different character). 🤮 How could the writers?!

[@rafmatt1607]

​@@alphastratus6623🤡

[@JerichoTheCity]

I never watched anything related to netflix witcher after I finished season 1. I'm happy of this decision, I now watch youtube videos related to it instead.

[@Dragooncore]

How can Yen be a mother figure to Ciri when they both look the same age. Never liked who they picked for Yen, they should've gone with a more mature woman.

[@crptpyr]

Yeah, the actresses are only 5 years apart. The other problem is picking an actress who is too old for Ciri. She was around 18 when the show started, she's 21 now. Given the oldest we ever see Ciri is 19, it's a little weird.

[@DianeBethra]

It was the writing really not how Yen looks. A good script would have overcome that by making Yen act like the mature powerful person she was, who seldom lost her cool in the books or the games. Instead we got a foul mouthed bad tempered teenage brat. No matter how good the actress she was given terrible writing to work with.