A dedicated dust collector for my table saw, low enough not to protrude above the saw's table. woodgears.ca/de...
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@SpoonsJTD6 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't use construction adhesive while wearing long sleeves. The sleeve could get caught in the joint you are sealing, and you'd be stuck wearing the box everywhere you go while wearing the jacket. That or you'll have to take the jacket off and have to leave it hanging on your dust collector forever. Love your videos, you are a true genius, despite your cavalier flaunting of long sleeve construction adhesive safety best practices.
@beefchicken6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would bring this up. This happened to my mother when she was carrying me in her womb. They wouldn’t let her in the hospital with a dust collector attached to her sleeve, so she was forced to give birth in a cabinet factory.
@jmickart6 жыл бұрын
This is a problem at airports as well because the collector counts as a carry-on.
@SuperAWaC6 жыл бұрын
it violates every page of the european dust collector safety act of 1986 which is why home-built dust collectors are illegal in the EU now. you'd never see such an unsafe thing in the EU!!!
@davdal336 жыл бұрын
SpoonsJTD everyone knows the story of 'Dusty John' he will go down in history as an example of bad construction adhesive etiquette
@spacemanrick20146 жыл бұрын
I guess its better than getting your bare arm glued to the dust extractor. They might call him The Winter Woodworker. Longing, Rusted, Seventeen, Daybreak, Furnace, Nine...
@Alanbataar6 жыл бұрын
Mattias, I appreciate your problem solving! Two little details of this video caught my eye: I like the simplicity of the indexing screw/hole arrangement, and the hold-down springs are really nice, too. I could imagine using a spring to hold the lid down, but my solution would have been to use a cup hook on the spring eye - your solution is much easier to use!
@Salamoulevits6 жыл бұрын
Your ingenuity with clamps still amazes me after all these years, don't know like 7 years now.
@beakz6 жыл бұрын
My first thought was the construction adhesive mentions were for John Heisz's reaction :) I like the idea of a unit for the table saw though.
@Andysanche6 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned to Heisz channel to see some threaded dowels made on a screw advance box joint jig! lol
@MaxMakerChannel6 жыл бұрын
I never understoof why he likes that stuff so much. But I also haven´t used it myself.
@beakz6 жыл бұрын
Max Maker It has its applications.
@billybobjoe1986 жыл бұрын
Its applications are in construction. And it goes bad after a few years. The main use is on joists under sub floors. But they make application specific adhesives for that now.
@DustinPrat6 жыл бұрын
byw yup the subfloor adhesive is some crazy strong stuff, use it weekly framing houses, and every once and a while I come home with an extra case as they almost send enough to change the tube every 5 sheets
@KarlBunker6 жыл бұрын
A bonus feature: You can sit your kids in front of the plexiglass window and tell them it's a TV show.
@Atheistic0076 жыл бұрын
That window is total OCD delight.
@thatellipsisguy89846 жыл бұрын
So THAT's where John's last tube of construction adhesive went...
@peteriannuzzo15256 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to see how you retrofit your machines with scrap parts. Looking forward to the follow-up video.
@badopinion6 жыл бұрын
I still sorely need to build a tool wall organizer like yours... and now I need a dedicated table saw dust collector too?! You’re the man Matthias.
@boristhebilder75536 жыл бұрын
Matthias, thank you for not attacking your viewers for not watching your videos. I watch your videos because you're an interesting person that thinks differently.
@DavidRed956 жыл бұрын
John will be proud of your for using that construction adhesive
@Mike-tb2hw6 жыл бұрын
Starting Friday off with a fresh Wandel video... gonna be a good weekend!
@mc4kvb6 жыл бұрын
A lot of work but in the end I think you have what you need once you get the relay box built so it will all work at the same time. You have a lot of great ideas for solving some of your problems you encountered. Great build Matthias.
@Cancun7717 ай бұрын
I am astonished that all these casters turned out the same height, in the complete absence of anything resembling a depth stop.
@MaxMakerChannel6 жыл бұрын
I like these dust extractor videos and watched them all. But I don’t think they are very convenient. They take a lot of time to build and they are bulky. You also need to clean out the filters. I just bough one of those plastic cyclones for 50$ and attached it to a bucket. Then my shopvac sucks up all the dust. I put the shopvac outside to limit the noise (to my neighbors). Works very well and the shopvac filter is never full. I also layed down sewage pipes throughout my shop to extend the range of the vacuum. The small diameter makes this less bulky.
@matthiaswandel6 жыл бұрын
those plastic cyclones - it's obscene how they cost more than a shopvac! And shopvacs are super loud. And the hoses and bucket and all that - just not very conenient!
@MaxMakerChannel6 жыл бұрын
I don´t find it obscene. They are built in smaller quantaties, so they must cost more. The dust collection for the Panto Router costes 139$ and is also just a piece of plastic (with bristles). You need hoses anyway, no matter which system you use. The bucket? Costs 10$ and requires no assembly. Yeah the noise is bad. Thats the only issues I have with them.
@meanders92216 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right. And if you use a Festool shop vac with cyclone it is effective and almost silent. And a normal dust collection system works even better (much better). But if Mathias had a normal job and bought a dust collection system what would we watch??
@MaxMakerChannel6 жыл бұрын
Thats why I said that I enjoy his videos. I wouldn´t recommend building one though.
@beefchicken6 жыл бұрын
Max Maker who sought your recommendation?
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
I use a similar collector box for metal chips. It was inspired by some of your other dust collectors. My shop vac pulls the chips into the box and they fall out into a bucket inside. I have no need for a filter as their is no metal "dust". It keeps my work space a lot cleaner than blowing metal chips all over the place with a air hose.
@donvanco30786 жыл бұрын
I think even a simple down or side-facing elbow in the box might help with the large shavings.
@Phil6596 жыл бұрын
Fridays don't quite feel right without one of Matthias's videos
@DavidStanton6 жыл бұрын
That was a neat thing with the spring to hold the lid down Matthias!
@matthiaswandel6 жыл бұрын
I thought a lot about a clever mechanism, then opened my springs drawer and saw these long ones, and realized, it could be so much simpler!
@BryanCollette6 жыл бұрын
I really liked this too - so simple and efficient! Love your videos as always!
@TheWoodYogi6 жыл бұрын
So simple and functional :) ॐ
@drmkiwi6 жыл бұрын
Those longs springs are great. At some stage an old chair was destroyed and somebody had the forethought to save all the long springs. They come in very handy for various projects. I use one to keep a small gate closed and it helps keep the sheep out of one of the sheds. Cheers, David.
@thereplicant82206 жыл бұрын
You and john should do another vs video my favourite was wen he fell through his cupboard shelf that was held up with biscuits
@ManCrafting6 жыл бұрын
It’s always great when you can revisit an old project and improve the design. Great job.
@paulmunro30506 жыл бұрын
Look forward to the relay box video. Thanks for sharing
@jeremyspecce6 жыл бұрын
Kettle Vale me too, probably even more than this one!
@dougprentice13636 жыл бұрын
Me Three.
@DoItProjects6 жыл бұрын
I don’t care if it’s gears, furniture, dust collection, or if he decides to blog about makeup. When Matthias posts a video, I click. And I’m never disappointed 👍
@ScamstinCrew6 жыл бұрын
As an FYI the tabs on that short straight piece of duct were used for a "tap" as in you slip the tabs into the duct (or plywood in this case) and fold them over and you have a duct connection. I find it ironic you cut the tabs off that are meant to be pounded over (which is easier) so you could pound over the duct section. At the end of the day it works but figured i would try and help future you out.
@chevydunlap15176 жыл бұрын
i can see the improvement on your ideas since the last time you made the dust collector. like the window so you can see inside when it is full genius idea.
@jonnymountain82116 жыл бұрын
I learn at least three things from each of your videos, and I am a builder by trade. Bravo.
@Vikingwerk6 жыл бұрын
Eventually Matthias is going to get fed up with individual dust collectors, and build a GIANT collector to connect to a shop-wide vacuum system.
@bluecurvedesign6 жыл бұрын
I know right? "One dust collector to rule them all..."
@dsnester27546 жыл бұрын
How dust collector videos are my favorite
@moc55414 жыл бұрын
With a box that big it would seem that perhaps one of those dust collection system filter bags--- e.g., POWERTEC 70001 Dust Collector Bag, 20" x 31", 1 Micron Filter--- could be put inside, inverted, with the exhaust above the bag and dust inside falling to the floor of a section below a panel with a hole in it into which the mouth of the bag is fit. So the inlet would be to the lower section. See "baghouse" on wikipedia for drawings of industrial-sized units.
@Stephen14556 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant how you inset the casters!!!!!
@Supply_656 жыл бұрын
If you don't need to remove the filter, I suggest using mastic tape. The adhesive is far superior. I manage a Baker Distributing and for duct we hardly ever sell fiber (old school) tape anymore. Mastic is generally used to seal coils and furnaces as well as boots to drywall. Search Polyken 367 or Hardcast 1402.
@leslieb68816 жыл бұрын
I think you are one of the smartest guys on KZbin, possibly the smartest. Very methodical.
@zolatanaffa876 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of throwing back a part of the air inside the saw? Just turn the impeller outlet appropriately and you are done. In this way you would be able to move all the chips that stops in the corners far from the suction hole. in all cases I would lower the height of the box, so I could cover the engine: mechanically and electrically potentially dangerous. For the different voltages I recommend a three-phase cable with neutral so you can make the necessary distribution simply with domino terminals at an irrelevant cost: with a good neutral calculated for the 100 V electric motor, you do not have problems of different powers ciao from italy!
@Paulman506 жыл бұрын
zola tanaffa I was thinking what a pain having 110v and 240v in the same shed, but I spose my shed has 240v and 400v and no problems.
@zolatanaffa876 жыл бұрын
All electric distribution lines are a three-phase system and whose voltage is 110v between any phase and the neutral and 220V between any two phases, here in Europe the voltages are 230V and 400V but the principle is the same. When your electric contract provides for the three-phase supply you automatically have both values available in your shed
@jackmcslay6 жыл бұрын
You can have a switch that turns on both the saw and the collector by connecting one of the phases used by the saw to the collector, onlf caveat is you have to make sure neutral and phase are wired correctly to the outlets and that you're using a 120V plug with the wider neutral plug
@bobafetting63736 жыл бұрын
Matthias - your carpentry is awesome. Your engineering is awesome. But this might be your most engineeringy carpentrying video to date!
@SchoonerLily6 жыл бұрын
I hurt my back scrounging plywood from the garbage, i told my wife it was Mattias's fault. Its nice having a scape goat!
@robertoqueipo95356 жыл бұрын
Muy practico y al tenerlo cerca de la máquina no tenemos tanta perdida de carga. Para limpiar el filtro muchas maquinas incorporar un martillo o una es céntrica para golpear lo y q así caiga el polvo. Aunque creo q lo mejor es un ciclón q no necesita filtro, pero necesitas tener altura para la recogida del material.
@brianjones12826 жыл бұрын
+Matthias Wandel Instead of going to the trouble of building a cyclone to go in front of the filter could you just put a baffle in the box? Not a vertical baffle but an almost entirely horizontal one extending maybe 3/4 of the way across the box. About 4 inches or so below the filter? Or at leas the end of the baffle next to the the inlet would be about 4 inches below the filter, and the other end of it away from the inlet angled down to maybe about 6 inches below the filter. Just something to slow down and divert the air enough that hopefully most of the larger particles fall out. But still leaves decent flow for the dust.
@wi11y19606 жыл бұрын
Have the dust collector use one leg of the power for the saw. When you start the saw, it powers the vacuum as well. Love your projects. Keep it up
@RB2162206 жыл бұрын
I find loctite wood adhesive is a great alternative to the traditional construction adhesive. Much less sticky and much easier to clean up.
@longshot7896 жыл бұрын
Construction Adhesive! John would be so proud.
@jamesthebiscuit6 жыл бұрын
He puts things together so quickly
@MrFakit6 жыл бұрын
I may have said this before (I'm old) I wish youtube would add a feature where you could instantly show everyone of the creator's replies to comments, I enjoy most of Matthias responses.
@purelife68466 жыл бұрын
John would be proud! He loves construction adhesive lol can’t wait for you guys to do another colab lll
@mickenoss6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you built a window into this one, always seemed like an obvious thing to have.
@fergusontea6 жыл бұрын
Don't you know that glue magically dries in a few seconds in videos??? ;-) Another enjoyable video!
@steveoh55336 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see part 2 with the relay box Matthias
@mikekernan53886 жыл бұрын
You never disappoint with your videos. Thank you for sharing. Mike
@alanh20776 жыл бұрын
Great job on the extractor!! I also watched the video on how you made it auto-start and stop!
@Watchyn_Yarwood6 жыл бұрын
Pull a 110v off the 220v. If the existing double pole receptacle is protected by a double pole 15 or 20 Amp breaker then you can safely tap off the conductors at the junction box to fed other 120 V outlets.
@googlesbitch2 жыл бұрын
In my experience with dust collection for the Unisaw is that there are too many corners inside the cabinet that trap saw dust. There needs to be baffles inside the saw to divert the majority of the sawdust downward toward the chute and all gaps on bottom should be caulked.
@GMastolier6 жыл бұрын
Great idea and project but, dang it, now I have to interrupt my woodworking projects to make one just like it (my regular dust collection system just does not cut it but, I think a collector like yours is the answer).
@florianfalch60486 жыл бұрын
i use in my shop a master slave switch to start automaticly my vac for all of my mashines, but if you use this dust collector only for your tablesaw, you could wire directly to the tablesaw. sorry for se great english ;-) with greetings from austria
@marcg.33336 жыл бұрын
You always have clever and practical ways of solving problems. I always learn something new! Thanks, much appreciated.
@craigmonteforte14786 жыл бұрын
If you want the weatherstripping or duct tape to stick well to raw wood a good trick is to coat it with a good. Coat of rubber or (contact) cement and let it dry then apply the other adhesive surface to it We used to use it to apply The foil tape to irregular surfaces on porous things like cork and homosote boards that were often attached as removable panels with heavy duty Velcro on reception desks often those panels were spaced on a desk as “tack boards “ so the user could. Push pins into them to hang notes or whatever they chose ? Generally the panels were covered with a textile to. Cover the board an to add to its appearance in nearly 20 years of using that method we had no failure to the best of my knowledge. And that was used on millions of dollars. Worth of architectural woodworking In the field we often used 3M spray adhesive. To make it faster to apply in our shop we. Did have contact cement spray rigs attached to 55 gallon drums set up in a specific spray booth area to ventilate fumes and control overspray as we used that process for veneer and HPDL also
@spinafire6 жыл бұрын
I know it's simple, but that window is beautiful.
@nickjm37fordel16 жыл бұрын
I love watching how you solve problems with your projects :-) (wheels ) ( spring )
@terrancestorey72546 жыл бұрын
John Heisz approves of the construction adhesive.
@qaweeorltuys6 жыл бұрын
Glad you're still making build videos!
@normanboyes49836 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and especially the dust extractors.
@mr.wizeguy89956 жыл бұрын
I would hang dust collector engine outside of shop wall. Run some metal duct work above head through wall, few out takes with flexible hose equipped with some valve so you can choose which tool "suck" most dust and build some small shed or container for exhaust port dust. That way ALL dust would go outside and no need to inhale all small particles that passed filter.
@matthiaswandel6 жыл бұрын
What I did was so much simpler! Plus not losing the heat in the process.
@combatmedic19806 жыл бұрын
Three words, KREIG POCKET SCREWS, no waiting for glue to dry and they are very strong.
@skottypippen16 жыл бұрын
Probably someone already comented that, but some rolers, or castors, on the top next to the motor could make for a good outfead support.
@mugslschlaengli59286 жыл бұрын
Nice build, but: i realy wouldn't be comfortable with that uninsulated motor so close to the metal frame of your tablesaw. Maybe ad a small casing for that motor.
@geef67706 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's it, another little box. And Matthias adores boxes.
@Descorath6 жыл бұрын
+Matthias Wendel, with the inlet hole that high up and close to the filter, wouldn't it be an idea to have an downward deflector just on the inside ? not straight downward, just enough so that debris not flying straight up to the filter when it enters the box. The airflow shouldn't be affected much by such a small deflection.
@iainportalupi6 жыл бұрын
What about a baffle angled down slightly just to get the big shavings going down and away from the filters? Maybe something like a 30 degree down angle?
@b5a5m56 жыл бұрын
Hey Matthias, you don't need to set up a relay box depending on the switch you have on the saw. If the switch is DPDT for both the hots for the 220, you should be able to tie into one of the hots on one side of the switch and a neutral potential on the saw to power your collector. If the switch is not DPDT then the collector will always be powered since one hot will always be connected to the circuitry. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken here.
@matthiaswandel6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did that earlier, but there's no neutral, so I hooked it up to ground instead, which wasn't the best either. And this one consumes much more power, so really not the best idea.
@paulbalegend6 жыл бұрын
Change the cord and plugs to add a neutral! Cleanest and simplest solution.
@JW776 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel aren't neutral and ground the same thing? Unless your ground wire is really thin.
@ihatenumberinemail6 жыл бұрын
EJ: No, if you sink any significant current to ground, then your "ground" will no longer be at 0V.
@paulbalegend6 жыл бұрын
EJ Wu though they are connected at the panel, they are not the same thing.
@PinwheelHomes6 жыл бұрын
The 240V is really just +120 on one side, -120V on the other and a ground. You should be able to grab just one side for 120V, but you’ll need a neutral.
@russb29456 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of building on the fly and having to make modifications after the fact...guilty of that myself from time to time. Maybe Sketch-Up plans ahead of time with measurements etc... would help you out especially with the roller issue that took extra time..but over all that thing sucks....LOL
@theodorant28026 жыл бұрын
Next video on the I Built It channel: How I Would Make A Dedicated Table Saw Dust Collector!
@EtaCarinae2306 жыл бұрын
i think that a cyclone will be a much efficient option in this application, though it's complicated to build it from wood.. dimension for that type of flow are not a concern ..
@valstachowski6 жыл бұрын
Also maybe put a directional inlet in the sawdust collection box?
@greg765432106 жыл бұрын
Construction adhesive criticism....shots fired!
@leechlife6 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to see if the pressure drop due to dust built up on the filter our-weights the pressure drop of a cyclone in the medium run. (I am def in love with cyclones atm, soo tired of filter cleaning ;) )
@Krawacik3d6 жыл бұрын
Make dust collector for hand drill!
@9009matorres6 жыл бұрын
krawacik3 dust collector dust collector
@lanswipe6 жыл бұрын
Isn't Matthias a dust collector collector?
@lanswipe6 жыл бұрын
Make another band saw too!
@jeffspaulding98346 жыл бұрын
Lee Valley made a dust collector attachment for a hand plane for April Fool's a few years back. You should be able to find the video demonstration of it on their site.
@Krawacik3d6 жыл бұрын
lanswipe Comment of a year
6 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you didn't want to put a light in that?
@JOSEPH-vs2gc6 жыл бұрын
An electric spark in flying Aerated wood shavings hm..
@nigelft6 жыл бұрын
JOSEPH ... well, that is certainly one way to go out with a bang ... ... I'll get my coat ...
@jhc5006 жыл бұрын
Construction adhesive! Olive branch to John? ... "I hate construction adhesive" .... nevermind. :D
@andy4an6 жыл бұрын
mechanical engineer here; is there a simple way to make a bellmouth fitting between the hose and box? straight fittings have high pressure drop, and performance would be better with a bellmouth. I appreciate that you can also just throw more power at it, and a bellmouth might be hard to make.
@billherreid96616 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to add some kind of rotating brush under the blade to agitate the sawdust and send it all into the dust collector so you don't get buildup. Another idea: using a high power LED array and a black background to see dust motes and check for leaks in filters.
@hamsterbyte6 жыл бұрын
I saw construction adhesive and looked through the comments for something John Heisz.
@SMee676 жыл бұрын
Love the way your mind ticks. 👍
@alexpettigrew89716 жыл бұрын
Maybe some baffles in the lower box would drop out the larger particles.
@hernancoronel5 жыл бұрын
You ARE a mad scientist! No doubt! Love your videos, thank you!
@ewoutwielenga5276 жыл бұрын
maybe you could experiment using the venturi effect for a dust collector
@ConsoleHoarder6 жыл бұрын
When John Heisz doesn't have construction adhesive in a video, you use it in one of yours. lol
@emo65170.6 жыл бұрын
A baffle in the box may help keep bigger pieces from getting to the filter.
@brh40156 жыл бұрын
At least we now know why John Heisz was out of construction adhesive
@Justinofalltrades16 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the relay box
@toshadude16 жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands you could just use one phase of your 400 v 3 phase power and have the 230 volts you would although this probably would violate some wire ring codes and rules you could do it
@nachtdiertje19726 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make a universal dustcollectionsystem, for all your devices? I would be getting crazy if I had this amount of collections, filters, screens, etc had to maintain. I think The amount of time you use to maintain all these, you could build one big one with all this finetuned. Maybe if you use electric valves who switch automatically on/off, by turning the device on/off it also is more comfortable to work with.
@Motovader726 жыл бұрын
The man is brilliant.
@Mythrunes6 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see a Matthias video, I click on it and press the like button.
@Piyomaru1116 жыл бұрын
Mythrunes #MeToo
@tim_meister6 жыл бұрын
this guy would survive in an apocalypse
@maximumiq1586 жыл бұрын
you could put a diode in series to make the 240 -> 120 drop.
@igorpavelmerku75996 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthias, please allow a basic question: my dust collector has a 100mm attachment, but my tools have less diameter attachments, like 60mm or even less. What do you suggest, get a tube with100mm as close to the tool as possible and use a reduction as short as possibile, or can I use a flexible tube with 60mm diameter and 1.5m-2m length and then attach to the larger tube? Thanks a lot for your comment.
@RambozoClown6 жыл бұрын
All you need is to have a neutral line to your saw, then the main switch can be used for both the saw and dust collector motors.
@manghetajahau26156 жыл бұрын
I wonder why you dont use your box joint jig for these types of constructions. Wont itbe better?
@BurtonsAttic6 жыл бұрын
Nice design and quiet! Looks like it sucks! Like the recessed casters.
@craigm37346 жыл бұрын
Matthias - You already know that filtered dust removers are a limited and awkward solution. Especially the ones with folded filters! So why not come up with a method, or even a machine, for cranking out efficient vortex designs at any scale more easily? The would solve the problem permanently.
@richardshort45876 жыл бұрын
Could you perhaps place baffles inside staggering them to stop or at least minimize dust getting to the filter. They should not interfere with the airflow and turn down the input pipe directing particles to the base. Or maybe use a liquid style separator like the oil style air filters on cat bulldozers