Apple M1 For Music Production E02 - is 8GB Enough? Serum & Omnisphere?

[@benjabocazvillaman9379]

Great Content! Thanks for the info! I am curious, what are your settings on logic? like buffer size, and other configuration? 44.1 or 96?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Sure Benja, I always work at 48khz, 128 samples buffer size. Thanks for the sweet feedback! 🌞🚀

[@MattiasHolmgren]

CONTENTS 00:00 Intro 00:28 Specifications 00:41 Is 8 GB enough? 01:32 LOGIC Pro Memory Test 02:30 Davinci Resolve Video Editing on MBP 13" M1 2020 02:48 Developing Web Apps on the M1 03:11 Third Party Plugin Tests 03:20 SERUM performance test on M1 04:36 OMNISPHERE performance test on M1 06:16 Learn more about Apple M1 compatibility 06:55 CONCLUSION - Is the Apple M1 good for music production? 07:45 PROS 08:42 CONS 09:19 What do you think? Ask me a question! 09:53 Watch - How to make VIDEO GAME music! 09:58 Thanks - Links

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Is 8 GB enough for music production on the MacBook Pro with Apple M1 CPU? In Apple M1 for music production episode 2 I answer some of the important questions you asked in my previous videos on the Apple M1 tech. Is 8GB enough? Does Serum and Omnisphere play well with the Apple Silicon M1 CPU? Furthermore, I talk about the PROS and CONS of the MacBook Pro 13" M1 (2020). Hope you enjoy my MacBook Pro M1 review! Keep asking questions in the comment section! Buy MacBook Pro 13" M1 (2020 - amazon affiliate link): www.amazon.com/dp/B08N5N6RSS/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=morningdewmed-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=86a57276675ce97c92c5bd3c0e66ed10&creativeASIN=B08N5N6RSS

[@DJSidhu24]

Tx bro for doing this 🙏😘

[@fademan]

8gb is enough, don't forget this is not Windows Besides, swap file is running very fast on nvme ssd, about 3gb per sec

[@MattiasHolmgren]

@@fademan Oh yes, it's a sick performance in this new tech.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

@@DJSidhu24 you are welcome Sidhu! Have you taken the MBP M1 for a spin yet?

[@DJSidhu24]

@@MattiasHolmgren nah bro trying to buy it still using 2012 mid pro

[@MattiasHolmgren]

More on Apple M1 Unified Memory here: www.morningdewmedia.com/is-8-gb-enough-for-music-production-on-macbook-pro-m1/

[@GearStuffandThings]

I have not had any issues with the 8gig for music production or 4k video. I have the Air with the same specs as your pro. Like yourself, I have been going crazy with plugins in logic and no issues at all.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah it works just fine! The M1 equipped macs are great machines!

[@_SZNN]

are you recommending this over the Pro? I really want to save money so if I can do all I need on an Air, then I will go that route? (Production, recording, video editing)

[@GearStuffandThings]

@@_SZNN I would over the Pro if you aren’t doing super heavy work loads with video sucks as RED or 6K stuff. Even with that being said 16gig would be fine if you stuck with the air. The only real differences between the pro and air in this lineup are the fans and Touch Bar. The Touch Bar is silly and the use of fans is almost not a thing if you arnt doing super heavy processing. I’ve had no issues at all. I do plan to get a 16gig Mini for heavier work loads :)

[@AdrianTorres]

After 2 years is it still running fine?

[@GearStuffandThings]

Indeed it is @@AdrianTorres

[@MattiasHolmgren]

New video on MAC STUDIO M1 Ultra -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGGTqZqaft19d7c

[@MattiasHolmgren]

NEW VIDEO - M1 MAX vs M1 - is the price of the M1 MAX really worth it? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3iYp2dsodGoipI

[@TheMirrorify]

Thanks for this video. I was panicking after my purchase (m3 air 8gb) as I stupidly went on forums and thought I'd made a huge mistake. Once I installed my software I ran a test with 64 serum and 64 kick2 instances (this far exceeds my real-world use) all simultaneously playing an 8 bar loop. It didnt even crack 7gb of ram usage and the m3 cpu just ate it up (cubase 14) without even thinking about it. Might be a different story for someone who runs lots of romplers or big multi-sample libraries, but for anyone who relies mainly on synths youre going to be fine with 8gb.

[@Illustrated00000]

Can you please make a video on how to update FL Studio to the latest version ON MAC WITHOUT losing your data settings, VST's and all your plugins? Keep up the great work my friend!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Happy to hear you enjoy my content. Oh, I never really thought about upgrading FL loses data like that. Something we might look into.

[@Mill-on-da-track]

I'm able to make good beats on a 2012 i5 macbook pro with a 500gb ssd I'm sure a base model m1 or m2 will have a massive performance boost

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah nothing wrong with older Macs. I also recall logic pro 9 was super lightqweight compared to logic pro x. Ran like a beauty! 😄

[@Pentagonic]

Keep uploading M1 Mac videos. You are the best.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks, appreciate the feedback.

[@musicasdebiodanza9876]

Thanks for spanish translastion, its inredibly usefull for me and million of people

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Wonderful, thanks for the sweet feedback! 😃🍿🎉

[@bluesucceed]

the video quality is insane!! 💙

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks Blue. Good lighting and 4k for the win! I try to improve all the time with my content! Glad the hard work comes across. 🏆🥳🎉🦊

[@m-zap1332]

Wow I never used Omnisphere but I'm loving the sounds on that

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah Omnisphere 2 is top notch sounds!

[@davidemori739]

Great video! Thank you so much! Great job

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Glad you enjoyed my MBP M1 video! 🌞

[@blankbmusic]

One of my main interests was to see how fast you can switch between sounds in omnisphere and you edited all those parts out lol. Is it faster than your previous setup?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Sorry, 😂, yeah the M1 and M1 Max is definitely faster with Omnisphere 2 than any of my previous configs. 🍿☕️

[@dopedrums]

@@MattiasHolmgren Would be cool to see how many instances of Omnisphere you can run at the same time without problems. Like 10 of them, for example. It's a pretty realistic "demo" considering Omnisphere tries to cover everything (bass, piano, pads, drums(?) you name it). Pretty much all the instruments you'd need for a entire track.

[@CEEDI3GH]

Yo bro, how did you get 32bit vst plugins to work on MacBook? Did you do a dual boot? I have a 16” 2019 2.3GHz 8core intel Core i9 16gb ram Is there a way to downgrade to Mojave or High Sierra to get my old 32bit vsti’s working again?

[@TeomanAlpsakarya]

thank you for this video!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks Teoman!

[@fabrjzio8731]

today i choose apple to do an important and professional upgrade to my productions,thank to you,you're video ispired me to buy macbook pro m1 8gb version,i think it will work very well

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Happy to share my thoughts and inspire Fabrizio! 🍀🥳🍿☀️

[@akshaypratap3366]

Is it working fine with 8 gigs of ram?

[@accentontheoff]

Hi, what’s your recommended usb hub. Any preference. Thanks!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi for the Apple M1 I do recommend grabbing the Belink Thunderbolt Dock Core(affiliate link): amzn.to/2SMNtoZ The reason is that this dock lets you charge your MacBookPro via the usb-c port on the Dock Core Hub. At the same time you can connect external display to it + Usb 3.0 gear. The reason I chose the Thunderbolt Dock Core hub, is because I need at least ONE free Thunderbolt port on the Macbook Pro 13" Apple M1 2020 to connect the UAD Apollo Twin X. I have some other hubs, but they don't support good USB 3.0 and usage of all these ports at the same time. So this hub is awesome! A bit pricey, but you get what you pay for in this case. I'll post a review video of it sometime. Hope the info helps!

[@accentontheoff]

@@MattiasHolmgren Hi great thanks. It looks like a beast. Will look it up further. Btw it’s not powered right? Does that become an issue esp when it comes to high end audio devices like the UAD etc.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

My advice is to always hook the UAD Apollo device directly to one of the Thunderbolt 4 ports on the MacBook Pro. And use the Belkin Thunderbolt hub for all other connections: power, external display, usb-3 discs, etc. You can power this hub via external Mac charger, it also further charge your Mac with up to 60W!

[@accentontheoff]

@@MattiasHolmgren My bad, so sorry, that’s what you meant. One port by itself always for the audio interface, which is the main device also. Guess that means that in the current MacBooks (with only two ports), everything else will have to go into the other port via usb hub.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes indeed! 🌞

[@DJSTANBOi]

great please do a video for m3 mac book air and real world usage for music producers

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Unfortunately Im still on M1 Max. Its insane power!

[@andyben87]

Great to know, got the M1 mac mini and was worried, but I should be fine.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah it's gonna handle audio prod just fine! 😀☕

[@Rulon-bo1ig]

Do you think I should get 16 gb of ram or 8 gb? It’s for my future Mac mini M1 setup with 512 go of storage. It’s cheaper than a laptop for my home studio and it leaves me more budget to max the thing out. For the portability side I can use my iPad. If anyone has experience would love a little advice😉 Thanks in advance.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Grab as much ram as you can afford for future compatibility. ☀️🥁

[@kalmath_]

Hi ! So firstly, I'm thankful for your video, it's precise and nicely built ! Secondly : I plan on buying a mac mini m1 with 8gb of ram, for music prod with something like 15 tracks per project. I'd run it all on Reaper, do you think it should be enough ? It's mostly about recording guitars, composing midi drums, bass and maybe a synth from time to time :)

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Absolutely! That's totally fine for your music prod. process. 💪 Appreciate the kind feedback! 🙏

[@kalmath_]

@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks a lot ! Then it's a really afordable piece of second hand tech here :D (around 450€ in general) Your communication and kind vibe are also appreciated, thanks a lot 🤗

[@JamesDalzell]

I'm upgrading my computer to the new M2 MacBook Air. I'll use it for music production. l'm using Komplete Now plug-ins plus the Roland Cloud plug-ins. My current MacBook air early 2014 won't handle using those plug-ins. The new one should be able to handle these virtual instruments

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah you'll get an awesome facelift from that 2014 Macbook Air in your new M2! Let me know what you think once you get to try it out! Happy producing James! ☕🌞

[@christiansanchez279]

Hey there! I know it’s been 2 years, but is the m2 worth it? or would you recommend something else?

[@JamesDalzell]

@@christiansanchez279 It has been working well. Definitely worth it. You might want to consider a larger hardrive if your into music production. I have a 512. The 1 Terabyte would give you a bit more space. The 8 gigs of Ram works well for plugins. There is no clipping with the 8 gigs of ram.

[@LX7music]

hi Mattias I am thinking of getting a hp pavilion 14 to make music only nothing else i will be making some orchestral stuff so will be using spitfire audio, BBC orchestra and serum etc do you think the 8GB RAM i5 would be ok? I want the 16GB RAM i7 but it is an extra £400 so a bit too expensive for me! what do you think?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

If you are on a PC (x86) the RAM matters a lot so go for as much as you can afford. 16 GB is minimum. A laptop always behaves less performant than a desktop in my experience. Even though most orchestral libraries stream from disc these days you still need plenty of ram for all those multiple plugin instances etc. PC laptops can also be pretty noisy (fans), but I don't have any experience with the more recent pavilions...maybe check some reviews. What DAW are you planning to use maesus?

[@LX7music]

@@MattiasHolmgren thank you for replying I had to buy the 8GB version as it was all I could afford! hopefully it can handle everything well enough! I might just have to freeze tracks instead and I use Ableton :))

[@imperialimperialimperial]

Do you think it will run good while running steam labs OBS & FL studio? My 2017 MacBook is not able to handle all that 😔

[@MattiasHolmgren]

It worked fine for me running OBS + FL Studio. Yeah, my old intel MB Pro also got pretty hot running FL and OBS. Check my clip running FL + OBS on M1 Macbook pro 13" (2020): kzbin.info/www/bejne/anWTZKavrL97nac

[@Islambeksax]

Hey, amazing content thanks. What do you think should I buy Mac mini 2 or MacBook Pro/ Air?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hey, good question! The question back is, how will you use it? Do u need to be portable? 😃🥁

[@ZackPomerleau]

It’s mentioned some plugins use more memory. I don’t use samples and such. I record my music and want to add reverb, effect like delay and tube compression effects. I can’t find info about this. Say ten audio tracks with 4-5 recorded simultaneously. I could get an m1 with 8gb for 1k. To me it seems like a no brainer.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Absolutly! M1 MBP is a great machine.

[@classic1984]

Good stuff. Makes me feel good about what a 16 GB RAM, 512 SSD might do but do you think such a machine will be good for 4+ years or should I look to the 32 GB models? Mainly for EDM, sampling tracks in ableton with a few plugins..

[@MattiasHolmgren]

For EDM Absolutely!

[@nitenote8459]

I am in doubt to buy Macbook pro 13" 8GB RAM and 256GB or Macbook Pro 14" 16gb Ram and 516SSD, for amateur music production of electronic Music. I feel more safe with more Rams and storage but I like that touch bar on 13"which 14" don't have... Any advice if i will be just fine for long time with 13"??

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I used the MBP 13" 8GB for about a year before upgrading to the M1 MAX 32GB. The 13" 8GB worked fine during the time and I produced a ton of tracks on it. If you have the budget go for a model with a larger display. The M1 MAX also have additional TB ports but I still have to use USB hubs no matter what laptop I use since I've got so much gear, cameras, external SSDs, synths etc. connected. The 13" 8 GB is a fine choice for any creative though.

[@nitenote8459]

@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks Man for advice

[@aclexvideo]

So nice to see this little experiment, Mattias, thank you! Though I'm not really into Apple equipment, it's still so interesting to see the progress and these significant changes in CPU architecture. So yes, glad it seems to open new possibilities for you at reduced pricing! Ready to complete the transition to M1 fully yet?)

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Oh yes, the M1 performance surpass what I could ever expect. Running OBS recording video AND making music at the same time on a laptop this size, at this price...pffff...it's just ridiculous. Also good for running VS Code, since it's now optimized for arm64 too. Although upgradability is lost, it's still awesome to have the memory in the same package as the cpu and with the arm64 RISC instructions we get less heat. Every time I work on my 2016 MacBook Pro I think, man why the heat....lol M1 Jummy! 🌞

[@aclexvideo]

@@MattiasHolmgren Oh yeah, nice! Hopefully there'd be more models with it in future

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@aclexvideo you’re into outdated tech, you say?

[@truesearch69]

@@MattiasHolmgren 7 gpu or 8 gpu?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿? can a More BASIC CHEAP Imac m1 making music and video same time?

[@issiewizzie]

running omnisphere single patch would not task the m1 or Intel based for that matter its loading multi 's that are busy that would at least show some processor movement

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah, I know it's a quick and simple test. That said depending on the patch setup, effects, filters, engine etc it always tax cpu and memory. I did load a multi on the final patch. But yes, i didnt load several tracks of Omnisphere. Thats for another video. 😉🥳🌞 Good to see ya Izzy!

[@issiewizzie]

@@MattiasHolmgren thanks

[@PacoLedsK9]

Hi Mattias! Thanks for your video. What about using Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 with MacBook Pro 13" or 14"??? If I have to buy my first Macbook Pro to begin in amateur music production at home. It's just to create my own music and record my creations. I've tryed with a Windows Laptop and I'm bored of all. Do you think its better to buy new 2021 Macbook pro 14" instead of 13"?? I think there are many diferences, not only price. Dankeschön

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi I think the Scarlett will run just fine. You can check my article on compatibility www.morningdewmedia.com/should-you-buy-a-new-macbook-with-apple-m1-silicon-cpu-for-music-production/ The 13” MacBook Pro M1 8GB is excellent for music prod. The 14” M1 Pro / Max features more power but its pricey. I would totally recommend the 13” for amateur to intermediate music prod. I am personally using it every day. But obviously using the 14” a bit more since grabbing it. But the 13” is perfect form factor! Good luck! 🎻☀️🍿🥁

[@urdopamiine]

i want to buy the 8gb version but But I want to rest assured that I will not lose my money for nothing. Any mum will work with all my filters without any interruptions, delays or issues and will work for my convenience. please reassure me ..i’m waiting for you

[@MattiasHolmgren]

M1 8GB is a great music computer. Best bang for buck!

[@harmony2368]

Mathias, what you think about MacBook Air m1 16 gb 7 core vs MacBook Pro m1 8 g 8 core? I sold my 2018 MacBook Pro to go M1 now. I’m going to used it for techno live ableton production and catch samplers thru a Scarlett interface like my octatrack elektron.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I would go with the Air 16GB. Because there is enough power in the M1 cpu, and RAM isnt upgradable in an M1 cpu. It will work great to capture audio recordings. How do you like the Octatrack? Do u have mk2? I have the Digitakt, its lovely little random accidents sample player. 🥳☕️🥁Good luck and enjoy that new M1, lovely tech!

[@azamergashev]

Thank so much for your research Mattias! I found out it really helpful!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Happy to share Azamat! 🎄🎅☃️

[@TribalHead]

Just layer some serum presets/omnisphere.... Let's see how m1 respond

[@MattiasHolmgren]

It just works fine. 😉

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Also, Spectrasonics software just got Native Apple M1 compatible softwares! So performance should be even more epic now. 🌞🚀🥳

[@zeus1117]

Nice to see more and more native vsts arriving!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah Zeus, I think adoption has gone fast and smooth. I though it would go slower. Very happy that the products I use for the majority of my own work is now fully compatible: Logic, FL Studio, Omnisphere, Serum, Valhalla Supermassive, Davinci resolve, Affinity, Godot, VS Code etc. 🥳🦊🌞 All my hardware also work with the M1 except the old Maudio Keystation Mini 32mk2. Lol but I replaced it with a Arturia Keystep 37.🎂

[@iFryTB]

Macbook pro m1 16gb vs i9 64gb whats better? (So sad to work on 13inch display, and in same time u can buy i9 16inch from ppl, so idk what to do..)

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi, M1 all day IMO. Intel laptops just run hot. 16” is too big and clunky IMO. In the studio you can always hook up the M1 to an external 48” 4K screen if u want (which I am doing)☀️🥁☕️🍿

[@iFryTB]

@@MattiasHolmgren thanks!

[@iFryTB]

@@DonnMusicWorks ok!

[@libbyssubs6938]

Só I bought an m1 Mac Mini with 16gb of Ram and 256 ssd planning on getting an external ssd for cheaper. Should I have just gotten the 512 internal ssd instead?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Not good regretting when you already bought. Just grab a cheap external ssd. Im using 2x Samsung T7. Great storage for the buck.

[@djtesla-y5n]

I have doubts about asus ROG 17.3 inch display AMD Ryzen 7 6800H 16 gb ram vs asus zenbook 14 inch i9 ultra 16 gb ram for fl studio which one should I go? Please someone tell me what to buy ?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Both should work great…. But IMO Apple Silicon equipped Mac Books wins any day for music prod (FL or whatever DAW) they are super light, runs cool, less power hungry and runs more efficient than any PC. + better display than any PC laptop.👌😄☕️

[@tobeylim4248]

Hi there can you do a video where you layer serum/Omnisphere sounds on top of each other until it overloads?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

That would be fun. ;)

[@BenG64646]

I do music production and sound design. a lot of folks say that a lot of ram is a good thing when using vsti with huge sample-banks. On the other hand a lot of cpu-Cores should in theory be a good thing when using a lot of tracks with several vsti and also when using real-time fx on audio and stuff. Should I get the 8c 14' with 32 gig of ram, or rather the 10c 1 4" with 16 gig of ram?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I am going to run tests on the M1 MAX 14" 32GB when it arrives in a few weeks to get a better solid answer to your question. But the 8GB 13" M1 already performs excellent! Never had a laptop this cool and with great performance. Love the M1 tech so far! Generally you always want as much RAM as possible to be future proof since it's not possible to upgrade internal memory, while you can always grab external discs for more disc space. Take that into consideration when selecting your next Mac. Thanks Benjamin.

[@coose0]

@@MattiasHolmgren I am so keen on your upcoming video Mattias! In how long will you receive your new macbook! it is going to be great to see your reaction, as i trust you fully know how it is to produce using a m1. most videos online are just regarding video export times… and some reviewers are saying the new mbp’s are great, but they arent necessarily comparing it to the already amazing m1 macbooks.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

@@coose0 hey, yeah I got the M1 MAX 14" MacBook Pro yesterday, and I'm currently installning all software to begin the tests and prepare the comparison episodes. Yeah, like you mention most current videos are not even from music producers, but rather video editors who just load up Logic without knowing what to show / load and compare. LOL I'll be focusing on comparing performance between the M1 and M1 MAX, since, like you know, Intel isn't even close anymore. But I will probably throw in some intel comparison just because it's such a vast space between them. ,) What I can say for now, before any videos, is that I initially like the form factor of the original M1 before the M1 MAX 14". It has a brand new overall design and I've grown so accustomed to the light package of the 13" M1. Insane power in a small package. But M1 MAX will probably have a lot to compensate with regarding raw cpu power performance. The new keyboard is sleek and feels nice. The internal speakers of the M1 MAX does indeed sound much better than previous. FInally you can identify a little bit of bass. Loading projects and updating plugins (when installing new pluggs) in Logic is insanely fast on M1 MAX! ;)

[@coose0]

@@MattiasHolmgren sounds awesome. you are helping myself and many others out. thanks!!

[@tomimusic3543]

Hi, I am planning to buy a macbook air m1. Is the 256gb version enough for light home production or should I rather invest in the 512gb version ?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

It depends. Will you use large sample libs? Then you probably wanna hook up external SSDs anyway.

[@thiagog7688]

Hej hut mar du? This video helps me to decide between a MacBook Pro 8Gb / 256GB or the MacBook Air M1 8GB / 512GB, Im electronic music DJs and some ableton live audio or machine sets and to produce some tracks in Logic Pro. What do you recommend?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi thanks Im fine. 8GB is totally fine for general music prod purposes. If you do heavy orchestral templates more RAM is recommended. Cheers! ☕️🍿

[@sampanther7620]

I want to get a 256gb ssd and 8gb ram; and want to get into making music, but idk if he 512 will be a HUGE difference. I want to make like maybe piano jazz and video game (pixelated slightly) music. Do you think 256 will be enough, and again; I’ve never done music but want to start doing music

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes 256gb is enough. If you want to start using mega huge sample libs you can always hook up an external 2TB SSD. 💪😄

[@sampanther7620]

@@MattiasHolmgren okay!!! Thank you so much!!!

[@srmsriram9273]

Excellent description

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks 👌💎

[@shashankpantmusic6194]

Hey there sometime when I connect my studio monitor to audio interface my cursor in MacBook Pro works little slow becomes little dizy can you help out in the issue … by the way love your content style really appreciate the effort

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi, connecting your studio monitors to the the XLR / TELE output of your audio interface should not effect MacBook Pro performance in any way. They only thing that would effect MacBook Pro is when you connect / disconnect the USB cable from the audio interface to the computer. Because the computer will handle the connection / disconnection of a new peripheral device. Connecting tele / xlr cables back n forth to the audio interface will not effect performance of the audio interface. So I can't really see what the root of your problem could be. What Audio interface are you using?

[@highlandpubgstore6918]

Sir, Please talk about intel i5 11 th gen is good for music production? Plzz reply..I need to purchase a intel lap as soon as possible

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi Meenakshi, sorry, I don't use Windows computers for music production. Compare the price against the Apple M1. If you're not going to play games on the computer, I would advice to consider one of these new MBP M1's. Insane performance. Good luck my friend! 🌞

[@highlandpubgstore6918]

@@MattiasHolmgren Tnq❤

[@subhajitsarkar4432]

Please use abelton 11 and make a detail video on how abelton performance in 8gb ram MacBook Air M1

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Great idea. I can do the Ableton 11 part, but I don’t own the air model. Only the M1 Max 32Gb, and the original M1 13” 8GB. 🥳🥁☕️

[@subhajitsarkar4432]

@@MattiasHolmgren oooo no 😭

[@MattiasHolmgren]

@@subhajitsarkar4432 eh what? ;)

[@subhajitsarkar4432]

@@MattiasHolmgren nothing 😊 it's ok

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Lol ☺️😉🥁☕️☀️

[@DefinitelyNotSwedish]

Oh I have a MacBook Air (memory 8GB- 13 inch) from late 2019. Do you think Logic and other plugins will run more or less the same?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Logic if both faster and more responsive on an M1 than any previous gen Intel Mac. This new tech is a leap forward. I especially like the reduced heat. Its much cooler than prev gen. 🌞🥳

[@tredfxman]

I have the 2019 inch model 8 gig. And i can tell you it wont have any problems as long as your not doing like Mathias say symphony orhestra arrangments or super advanced trace maby with maby 50 tracks or so. The 2019 even have 4 cores on the cheapest model which we got here as we didnt need anything more. Super happy with the 2019, and as i said in other comment it have the ability to also run Win10 if a need should arise. Other than that, probably even better of with the newer M1. If it HAS to be a Mac that is. Im not really a Mac guy, but the hardware & some of the software is good.

[@DefinitelyNotSwedish]

@@tredfxman thanks! What type of music do you make? You got nexus, serum or big plug ins

[@monique4879]

Should I wait for the MX1 Macbook Pro chip or will it not be much different?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Its all up to you. I feel the current one rocks. Tight cold package with excellent performance.

[@kglapinski]

What kind of dock / converter are you using? I have a problem with usb-c ;/

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Atm i'm using a Thomann Super Speed 3.1 Gen 1 HUB with 7 USB-A and One USB-C port, I also have secondary HUB chained to my primary hub which is also a Thomann 7.1 Port USB 3.

[@harmony2368]

Mathias, what you think about MacBook Air m1 16 gb 7 core vs MacBook Pro m1 8 g 8 core? I sold my 2018 MacBook Pro to go M1 now.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi, I always go with the Pros. I had a bad taste of Air in the past. lol. Nah seriously, I think the Air will yield very similar performance. And it gives you more "future proof" RAM.

[@rocketsasa]

Hi , I just bought the iMac m1 ! How do I plug in my Scarlett solo into the iMac , since my interface is usb , not thunderbolt ? Ps : without latency delay

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hey, just grab a TB (or USB-C) to USB hub. Because the TB ports are also USB-C compatible. There are plenty to choose from. I use a belkin dock core- check my review here: www.morningdewmedia.com/best-thunderbolt-hub-for-m1-macs/

[@rocketsasa]

@@MattiasHolmgren hey , thanks a lot man ! God bless

[@stephenroldan5107]

Tb to USB adapter

[@koustavmukherjee8699]

Can I install komplete 13 in an external ssd ??

[@rizzoprod_]

Hi, are there any compatibility issues with a Behringer Umc22 and an Arturia KeyLab 49 keyboard? Thanks for support!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi, I dont have the Behringer UC22, but I do have a Arturia Keystep 37 and it runs just fine. Only usb gear that didnt work so far is the old M-Audio Keystation Mini 32. But all other gear was found and could be used just fine.

[@rizzoprod_]

@@MattiasHolmgren Yeah, thanks! I produce music and do graphics on a daily basis. Which one do you recommend between the MacBook Pro 8 GB and the MacBook Air 16 GB? The price is similar

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I personally always go with the pro models so thats what I recommend. But this new air model is probably very nice too. Heard great things about it. Im very happy with my 8GB MBP 13" 2020. Its perfect for music and gfx design.

[@meditation8231]

I'm thinking about a M2 pro 8gb/256 for music production and work. But today I have a normal PC with Intel core i9 and 16GB RAM. Does it worth the change? (Both are the same price, so if I sell my PC I will be able to buy the macbook).

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I would say yes, M2 Pro for music production is insane! Even with 8GB specs as I mention in this video. How large are your music projects? What plugins do you use? One thing to keep in mind is the minimal amount of ports on Mac Books Pros, so youll need to grab a USB hub to extend your ports. 👌

[@meditation8231]

​@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks for the reply, Between 30-50 channels (I try to make it simple) and I use mostly Serum and Fabfilter plugins. Yes, I'll need a USB ub, specially to use some midi controllers (AKAI MPK Mini)

[@meditation8231]

Btw, I use Ableton 11

[@django3108]

12 core M2 Pro 32 GB RAM, you'll be good for 5+ years.

[@vague5043]

Very well described 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks! 🙏☕️🥁

[@EryQWalker]

Mac pro 13 or lenovo legion 5 ryzen 7 for fl studio?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

M1 for FL Studio IMO. 🌞🦊

[@ae4102]

Do you think you could have done this project on the m1 Air? With 8g ram?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi Adam, yes I believe so. There isn’t that drastic difference between the two. I just ordered the M1 Max MacBook Pro 14” with 32GB RAM, will do a review of it in a month or so. ☀️

[@DeadGyro]

Is it good if I’m just starting production?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Absolutely, Apple Silicon is awesome for music prod!

[@forevrcarter]

Hey Mattias. I plan to make a few rap songs for myself on my MacBook Air M1. Would 8GB be enough in that case?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Oh yes, no problem. 8GB is well enough for most general music. It can handle a TON of audio tracks plugins.

[@forevrcarter]

@@MattiasHolmgren great, thanks for the reply. i also noticed that it only has like 1-2 open slots. Do you reccomend any adaptors so I can fit a mic, speaker, headphones etc etc

[@MattiasHolmgren]

@@forevrcarter Hi yes Indeed, I use a Belkin Thunderbolt Dock Core to connect the 13" M1 MBP with external display etc. read more here (+ affiliate link) www.morningdewmedia.com/best-thunderbolt-hub-for-m1-macs/ You are welcome Carter! 🌞 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKjan42AmapgedE

[@dereles]

IS 8GB RAM (mac mini M1) ENOUGH FOR MUSIC PRODUCTION ? I USE 15-25 AUDIO AND MIDI INSTRUMENTS (TOGETHER) in reaper, cubase or Logic pro x !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Prodd-zv4eo]

У меня MacBook air 2015-го года и в нем логика отлично работает без всякой задержки и перегруза

[@cgonzt5636]

Nice crisp hd video dude

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks, yeah I use great camera, lens and also make sure my lighting is good. Editing in Davinci Resolve. 🥳🌞

[@PhiLiaSF]

Hi! I’m thinking about buying a new M1 MBA or Mac Mini for composition/music production. I use Ableton Live and Cubase mostly with third party VSTs. Everyone recommends me to get the 16gb version. Apart from that, do you think with 256gb I’ll be good if I use external storage? How do you manage your VST’s libraries? Thank you! :)

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi, 256 GB is def enough for the OS disc, if you run with external disc for your big sample libs. Personally I always go for the 512GB in my laptops so I can have stuff like Omnisphere etc on the main disc. So I don't need to bring extra external discs everywhere. I do have most other big sample libs (Heavyocity, East West, 8DIO etc.) on external discs though. But Omnisphere, Trilian, RMX stays on my system disc. 🌞

[@PhiLiaSF]

@@MattiasHolmgren thx! I like your channel! 🙌🏻

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks, much appreciated fb! 🥳🎂🌞

[@g.a.w.studio2165]

Great review, thanks! :)

[@MattiasHolmgren]

You are welcome!

[@teddym2808]

Is the M1 doing something different with memory management? On my imac pro I would routinely max out my 64Gb of ram in large projects. I have no idea how to do them with 16GB of ram, let alone 8 LOL.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Nope, you can run many apps without issues. M1 have so fast memory swapping (between CPU and memory) that you wouldn't believe it. Since the memory sits on the CPU package (SoC). It's a totally different system than intel tech. ;)

[@kayrellebarte7373]

Great review sir, may I ask how much space does the logic use? If I only had the base model, how many tracks do you think may work?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

You are welcome Kayrelle! Do you mean how much space Logic requires once installed? You can always skip installing the extra soundlib content which is like 70GB. Logic on M1 can handle "enough" audio tracks for major projects. SSD is very fast and responsive, as expected. I can give u an exact number later today. 😉🥳🦊

[@kayrellebarte7373]

@@MattiasHolmgren well thanks for the info.

[@CinematicAlpha]

Very good review, thanks

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks you are welcome! 🌞

[@erwinyulista]

Hi, what about macbook air M1 8gb, is the result gonna be close with the M1 pro 8gb version? Thanks

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi Erwin, while I don’t own an Air M1 MB, from what Ive seen and read… performance will be similar. But MBP is always a notch above as the air whil throttle down when running demandinc tasks (read video processing / editing / rendering. But not so much in music prod. So the air is also a good choice. ☕️☀️🥁

[@erwinyulista]

@@MattiasHolmgren thank you, i'm leaning to the air becouse it's form factor (lighter & no fan), and also yes i will only use it for music production (Logic & Pro tools).

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Awesome, just be aware you will need some usb hub to connect more gear since the M1 air (and pro) 8GB only has two Thunderbolt ports and one will be occupied by charging adapter. 🥁☀️☕️

[@erwinyulista]

@@MattiasHolmgren hi there, and yesterday i got the M1 macbook air 8gb ram, 512 ssd, it's awsome, alongside with anker hub, problem solved. Thanks

[@sibkw]

Really helpful video, thanks! It would be really great if you could you show us what your system latency is? Also, would it be possible to test these plugins on lower latencies - under 10ms? For example, if you didn't want to use quantising but give a performance/record without the grid.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi I was running buffers size at 128 = 8.7ms roundtrip latency in Logic Pro X.

[@sibkw]

@@MattiasHolmgren great stuff, thanks!

[@rexeffect7122]

Where did you get those serum patches, they sound great!

[@MrEtorkizuna]

what about having MBA M1 16GB and 1TB for music production?…LOGIC PRO mainly.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

The Air is also a fine alternative. 👌☕️☀️

[@MrEtorkizuna]

@@MattiasHolmgren THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING. Wonderful videos. I subscribe. all the best

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Superb, awesome thanks Pablo! 🙏🥳☕️

[@MrEtorkizuna]

@@MattiasHolmgren You welcome Mattias

[@TBb____]

Hey! I hope you have time to respond at some point. I don’t produce music; however, I do plan to run Keyscape and logic to produce sounds for my midi keyboard. I’m wondering which MacBook would be suitable for me?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

All Spectrasonics products work great with the new M1 technology so I would advice on an M1 Air (if limited budget) or the M1 Pro with as much RAM and SSD as you can afford. Hope the info helps! //Mattias🥁☕️☀️

[@je-zus]

how many instances of serum , omni sphere or NI could be loaded in 1 session?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

More than you ever need. ;)

[@je-zus]

@@MattiasHolmgren in a 8gb mac ? . I am trying to get one . Hopefully the 16gb if available. Can 8gb mac run multiple NI instances ?. Just clarifying

[@je-zus]

@@MattiasHolmgren thanks

[@MattiasHolmgren]

@@je-zus yes, absolutely. But yes 16GB is better for future compability. I'm still using M1 Max (32GB), it's insane power. Never need more.

[@nick27194]

hi, i have a Macbook air M2 with 8gb to study electronic music in university, do you think i can easily use Logic Pro now in 2024 to produce my hip hop beats?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Absolutely

[@dogank85]

Thanks. Actually i bought a M1 pro thanks to your review recently. And i am happy with it. Thanks a lot. Keep up good videos

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Oh, awesome Karakaya. Glad you found my content inspiring. 🌞🥳

[@rickvestuto]

Great video...But that wall paper 😵😵😵 Maybe a blue paint with some LED and dim the lights Best regards, Rick

[@MattiasHolmgren]

This is a temporary studio location, during reconstruction of my studio nr1. Say no more. 😂😉🥳

[@rickvestuto]

@@MattiasHolmgren Oh Awesome OK I'll subscribe Cant wait to see it

[@ma3refangy863]

Deos the fan work while recording on the mic and how much rpm if it work ??

[@MattiasHolmgren]

The fan never kicks in during my music prod work. ;)

[@ma3refangy863]

@@MattiasHolmgren thank you so much

[@Coco-spirits]

I'm a student and I don't have much budget. I'm considering the macbook air m1. I'm also probably using it for 5-6 years as I don't think I can upgrade it any sooner. Can you please suggest me what would be better: 1. Macbook Air M1 16GB ram with 256GB ssd 2. Macbook Air M1 8GB ram with 512GB ssd.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

If you plan to use the MacBook Air M1 for such a long time, go for 16gb RAM. Its easier to connect external HD if you need more storage, but RAM is not possible to expand (easily). ☀️🍀

[@Coco-spirits]

@@MattiasHolmgren thank you so much for the response😁 I'll consider that. Have a great day

[@thomasdietz579]

What about the Mac Mini? Been looking at that for music produktion

[@MattiasHolmgren]

The Mac Mini M1 is also superb for music prod, it's the same cpu so you should be alright!

[@Radical_Middle]

my pc has 32gb and it is ok for now, but soon will have to upgrade. vsti samples are getting heavier. 8gb is pure nonsense this days if you use virtual instruments.

[@amandaj9312]

Random question. How I play my midi after I bounced the track? It’s not playing when I playback it.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

When you bounce a midi clip (you select a clip and right click->bounce in place) the clip become muted. After bounce in place -> Press the midi-clip and press CTRL+M which should unmute the clip. Did that solve your issue Amanda! Thanks!

[@amandaj9312]

@@MattiasHolmgren yesss! Thank you !

[@axelmaldini4218]

Nice watch man!

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Thanks Axel! 🥳

[@kripalpatel0904]

Can i buy mac air with 16gb 256 gb for logic pro ?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes it works absolutely great! 👍

[@karayuschij]

What if you use, for example, a full Spitfire Audio orchestra (Flutes, Oboe, Eng. Horn, Clar, B-Clar, Basson, C-Bassoon, Horns, Trumpets, Trombones, B-Trombone, Tuba, Violin 1, Violin 2, Violas, Cellos, C-Bass, Various percussion)… ?? 64 GB is never enough on intel machines, so?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Kontakt uses disc streaming. That said, yes if you want to do mega big orchestral templates with 100 kontakt instances you will need more RAM. My intention with this video is to show that 8GB is totally enough for electronic music production and general music prod and audio tracking. The M1 tech has very smart memory handling and super fast mem access. An extremely capable and portable machine. Give it a try! Indeed I always install at least 64GB on my intel machines. 🥳

[@kirstenhunneyball1233]

I want to produce music on Logic Pro, and use RX audio editor as well as da vinci resolve for video editing. How do you think this will perform with 512GB SSD and 8GB RAM on mac mini M1?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi Kirsten. I think that Mac Mini M1 will perform very well with Logic Pro and Davinci Resolve since both are optimized and works natively on M1! Why not take a look at the MacBook Pro 13" M1 8Gb instead of the Mac Mini? Or is there a specific reason you look at the mini (desktop box)? 🌞

[@curiousaboutrecovery7137]

@@MattiasHolmgren thank you so much. I was opting for the mini because of affordability but just chatted to the izotope guys to check my compatibility with my RX 8 plugins- apparently only RX 9 works with the M1 which is going to be a problem for me. Also going to get protools as well - apparently PT has a minimum requirement of 16GB… hmmm I will have to still do my research thanks for the reply!

[@Neylus]

Amazing review. I'm planning on buying an M1 MBP with 16Go of RAM next week. I'm still hesitating between the 2To version or just the 1To with an extra external SSD.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hi thanks! 🙏 1TB internal is good enough IMO. The M1 is by far the best portable laptop I ever had. Battery time is superb!☀️

[@Neylus]

@@MattiasHolmgren change of plans ! I’m actually waiting a few weeks to see how the new M1X 14 inch MBP will be. Let’s see! Super video anyway, thanks a lot man!

[@avimit.g]

Thank you so much for the breakdown. Being on a budget constraint I am in a bit of a pickle. To future proof the M1 13' Pro, would you recommend going with 256gb memory and 16gb RAM or 526 GB memory and 8 gb RAM? My style of music takes up a mix of vocals, instruments and vsts like Kontakt, Vital etc.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I would suggest going for 512GB SSD & 8GB RAM. The 8GB RAM will take you very far. That said if you are really on a budget go for 256GB SSD and 16GB RAM, you an always extend the disc space with an external disc, but it's impossible to extend the internal memory. But as I said, I own the 8GB model and it's been totally enough this past year. And I do professional work in music, graphics, animation, videos, apps, games, web etc. Note: I just ordered the brand new 14" M1 Max with 1TB SSD, 32GB RAM which will ship in 3-4 weeks! Excited to do an update video comparing the first gen M1 against the brand new M1 Max. Stay tuned for a review. 🌞🎅

[@kehindea]

8GB is perfectly fine for everyone. If you find you need more juice you're far better off buying a refurbished slave machine for 1/10th of the price of upgrading to 16gb ram. Also don't ever plan to use a laptop long term. Their useable life for production purposes is 5 years as you're more likely to buy the next iterations of the M1. Also it amazes me why people don't freeze audio tracks. Once you've made your composition freeze the track as there is really no need to run samplers or synth plugins live. Free the CPU.

[@ToleXMusic]

@@kehindea I noticed that some samples sound different especially with added effects like reverb or chain. So thos tends to discourage me from freezing them. I wonder if with the M1 I can still have a productive session without without freezing?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes, I never freeze because of cpu issues during production. Only when I need to work with audio rather than midi. :)

[@MattiasHolmgren]

In Logic, make sure you have the advanced tools available in preferences. Right click a track, select Track headers. Tick ”Freeze” so its available to select on the tracks. Now you can click the freeze icon on whatever track you want to freeze and save up CPU. ;)

[@sanuchakraborty7271]

I am thinking to buy m1 macbook air Or pro for my music production works sir . I have two options 1- m1 air 512gb 16gb 2- m1 pro 256gb 16gb Can you suggest me any one for which I should go for ?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

I always go with the Pro. SSD space can be adressed via external Hd if need be. Cpu cores can not be fixed. So, easy call. The MacBook Pro 13” M1!!!

[@ShreddyLifts]

Id go for m1 512 gb 16 ram cus u dont need all that power from the pro and u need lots of disck space to make music all the programs and pluggins omnus that you will need to run fast and thats over 300 gb right there

[@DavidMiller-do9gg]

I feel like it needs more ports. But how well does it run avid protools?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah my old Intel MacBook Pro 15" from 2016 has 4 TB ports. I wish they pushed for that into the 13" MBP 2020 with M1 too...can't have everything I guess. I solved it by using a TB hub, you can see it in action here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWPdfnyBqLWsrck Pro Tools apparently works through Rosetta 2, but I don't use PT anymore so I wouldn't know how well. ;)

[@maselomeow6940]

Would 8gb ram be enough for long term period? I guess 16gb ram will be remaining relevant longer or its wrong??

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Always go for as much RAM as u can afford, disc space can be expanded easily with extrnal discs. RAM can not since its soldered on the cpu.

[@tardisaparijal419]

Is mac air M1 8gb/256 competible for abeleton live 10/11? My genre music is melodic bass/ dubstep, future bass..

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes Ableton Live 11.1 is fully arm64 compatible.

[@mark-ze4en]

are you using the thunderbolt connection for midi control?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Hey. No midi control through THunderbolt. I hook them the Direct Macbook pro Thunderbolt to an audio interface - Antelope Audio Zen Tour…or the Apollo Twin X. ☀️🥁🥳

[@mark-ze4en]

@@MattiasHolmgren does the antelope have Thunderbolt? It sounds like you 'are' using a thunderbolt connection regardless if it's direct path to the computer? It's still a thunderbolt connect?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes it has both TB and UsB. I connect the audio interfaces to the port thats available :) if all TB ports are occupied I use the USB. I get great performance with both. Im gonna show my new studio setup in a video very soon. 🥃☀️

[@MelodicVibe54]

Hey there, after all these days. Does the Komplete Audio 1/2/6 is compatible with m1 macbook ?

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yes Prem, I am using it with a Komplete Audio 6 mk2 without issues. Also running an Apollo Twin X at the same time. Aggregated audio interface device. ;)

[@ildafons]

Unfortunately some legacy expansions for MPC software don't work on M1 and probably will never work.

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Yeah there are probably some old apps that will not convert (abandoned softwares). That said most stuff works, if not in apple silicon mode...they work in rosetta translation mode.

[@davidpickett3546]

Do you think the macbook air m3 8gb will be adequate for small projects

[@MattiasHolmgren]

Absolutely David. 👍