$6000 Pro Camera VS iPhone 12 Pro Max - Can you see the difference?

[@mattih]

Be honest how many did you guess right?????

[@paultonges3831]

Too little

[@PedroGonzalez-qe4kn]

IN SHOCKKKKKKKK :D

[@paulloth]

I got 5 right and also i like the R5 Skin Tones waaaay more than the iPhone...

[@dougmenezes]

Surprised I got all of them right. Probably because I only shoot photos with my phone.

[@onemorechris]

here we go, i’m playing for real...

[@TRPLD]

I think no matter the outcome, even the fact that you have to reaaaaaalllly look closely to see the difference speaks volumes to the capability of modern day smartphone cameras...

[@theroadtomychateau2061]

I am a professional photographer and I shoot with both my iPhone (now 1Pro Max) and my mirrorless (Canon EOS R). There have been many times that I end up choosing an iPhone shot over the R shot. I also love a quick tweak in PhotoShop on my phone. When I need to retouch more I move to my MacBook Pro, it is all a seamless process. Which I love. I shoot primarily fashion and portraits so this works perfectly for me. I can get the clients excited in the moment with a sneak peak on my phone. I come from the analog world when I first started my career, so all of this is beyond fun and exciting. You and your brother are funny, goofy (no insult) and informative. Keep up the good work. PS: I got 1 wrong.

[@JayCity]

It's actually really insane how far smartphone computational photography has come. It was a struggle trying to tell them apart

[@mattih]

It’s pretty wild!

[@kalimarus]

If you texted either nobody would know what took it. The iPhones have some easy give always when you know what to look for but overall on the screens we view 99 percent of our images it’s good enough these days.

[@adidura2081]

Yeahh

[@EpitomePax]

I think a better game is: “which image do you prefer?” & then be surprised at how many where the iPhone vs the FF camera 😂

[@BigBeauBrown]

Dude....I feel it....This is gonna be your year, the finish bros are about to take over and I'm all about it

[@mattih]

Thanks man 😊

[@PaulFeinberg]

Yes!!! I love it already!!

[@thomaslindvall9686]

The Haapoja’s are back in town!

[@SophieinShanghai]

best family reunion of 2021

[@Darkest_Soul_187]

@@thomaslindvall9686 they never left the town in the first place

[@PapeSan]

Matti how did you master the shadow clone jutsu ?

[@wesleychapman9001]

Most underrated comment lol

[@YongAcalal]

lol, it means his a fan of naruto???

[@jiriq8853]

I was watching Naruto Shippuden for the last month, now I am at the end and I thought I was super late watching it.. But I see Naruto references everywhere lately! :D

[@romsky]

I think wearing a hat really helped out portrait mode on the iPhone. Blurring around hair is when it tends to fail

[@mattih]

Yea that could be

[@ItsPolder]

Yes, at the airbnb Shot you could see it slightly on the beard

[@PKRproductionsuk]

yeh for sure - as a rule i hate the portrait mode and can spot it a mile off BUT in these images it did a bloody good job tbf

[@heyimadrian.4546]

Not with LiDAR, a 12 would’ve failed may be but the Pro wouldn’t

[@nesune4401]

With the hat the giveaway was the depth of field the top part.

[@Darkest_Soul_187]

I wasn't even guessing which is which. Just wanted to see how good are the iPhone photos since I'm planning on buying one

[@schwartzbrothersmedia]

Not that anybody cares, but I nailed every one.

[@dathofilms]

hahaha

[@wout_sprangers]

Congrats hahahaha

[@mskalo-1848]

I care gj mate

[@eugenehong9668]

Same. Congrats bro

[@Vinizuca]

Look at the over sharpness of iphone, bokeh and bokeh balls, skin smoothing on iphone, etc.

[@Officialshaww]

I got them all right but man it was hard on two of them!!! I Almost got it wrong because of the contrast and color, I kinda felt like the blur helped though on that last one for sure. Might just be me lol that's crazy that the iPhone is that close to the R5. I plan on getting the R5 as well, Im curious to see how it works at night

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

I only got one wrong - the same one you did. I will say that on the AirBnB balcony shot, what gave it away was that the pro DLSR's can do bokeh in front and back of the subject. iPhones can only do back bokeh. The railing on the balcony was out of focus in the front *and* the back.

[@BangPhotography]

and that horrible halo around the tower in the iphone picture

[@YuVisualss]

i caught that too

[@debaratihalder2917]

Me too

[@ericb8985]

Any lens has (in case of the Iphone just minimal) bokeh. You are referring to the artificial blur of the background in the IPhone's portrait mode, which is totally different.

[@dihawski7379]

Plus, the writing on his sweatshirt was also out of focus on the front, I'm actually pretty proud of myself i got all of them right 😏🤣

[@Hmkls]

Got every single one correctly. Iphone images are good, but in a direct comparison it's clear that it cannot match the R5 in terms of detail in close ups, color balance and overall naturalness of the image

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Its INSANE how good the Iphone 12 pro Max is at photography.

[@Smilebefine]

How much post editing was done on iphone photos ??? My iPhone 12 pro max ain't that good 😭

[@linoramalho2291]

@@Smilebefine helps being a good photographer as well.

[@mattih]

iPhone only ig grid???

[@TeppoHaapoja]

@@mattih Lets take the challenge on!

[@linoramalho2291]

@@mattih my Instagram @linomsramalho is 80% iPhone photography. It’s the camera I always carry with me 😁

[@aussauce]

The fact they are so similar is absolutely amazing ! Let’s go phone photography haha!

[@_emenace7579]

What is a good camera for low light? I’m trying to shoot music production videos

[@chriskaufmann655]

I seriously love the energy your brother brings to you. Your dynamic makes these videos pop.

[@alexine.musicc]

I got the exact same score as you! Landscape type photos are so much harder to see.

[@andrew_barros]

i see a second channel or a rebrand to "The Haapoja Bros" in the near future. I love to see these two guys in videos already.

[@mohamadahmad7171]

I was thinking about that ! This is the year of these two !

[@adidura2081]

Matti, would you buy the a1??

[@christianvolkner2028]

It’s great that phones are this good now! Even as a photographer it is great to have a decent snapshot cam always available. So yes the iPhone shoots a natural image in front of you, that’s the job of Camera Right? But how would it look zoomed with dark interiors? Probably like an Aquarell right? If it would actually compare, then this channel would be filmed with an iPhone right?

[@McPooPoo]

I just love the dynamics of you guys - two brothers messing around and just having nice time, can relate myself Love it

[@10fingerman]

Phones are really good nowadays, but all of them still have some sort of phone feel to them, its hard to pinpoint but i think its due to the small sensors, since compacts (with small sensors) also have this feel to the pictures. Only phone i have seen which did not have this was the Nokia 808 Pureview with its almost 1" (inch) sensor. then there is of course the depth of fields, also due to the small sensor and fine detail in landscape shots. If you only shot for social media and 90% of your shots are seen on phones then yes, no one will notice. However if you wanna print or view you images on large 4k+ tv's then there is still a pretty large difference.

[@Akraf]

Yes its the noise level and dynamic range. Its more visible when editing in post.

[@itacatv2146]

I’ve got everything right except the second to the last one. I’ve guessed the last because there was better dynamic range in the iPhone picture (more details in the shadows above his head). I was aware about the DR in the iPhone, but without that knowledge I might’ve guessed the opposite. Crazy how god iPhone is.

[@RodHerzstrom]

Love the blind comparison! For the price iPhone 12 did a great job... Would be cool to see the 4K Video Fight!🔥 I make Cinematic HDR videos for my channel with the iPhone 12 and I’m amazed but the amazing quality it has... moreover at night 🤤

[@flaviaflehrt9841]

the problem is the editing of HDR for KZbin...

[@RodHerzstrom]

@@flaviaflehrt9841 yeah but the editing process is fun :D

[@benvegli9081]

man iPhone is still overpriced!

[@RodHerzstrom]

@@benvegli9081 well here in Germany is kinda weird.. samsung is even more expensive in some models. So even though iPhone is indeed very expensive... could even argue against that... the competition is also expensive.... But here at least iPhone is making a good job against a really expensive camera ;-)

[@RiceCubeTech]

"for the price" its still 1500 dollars for their model of iphone pro max, and if you have an older iphone already, youd be better off buying a sony a6100 and a solid lens. The difference between that and the R5 in a blind comparison is almost negligible without pixel peeping.

[@MM-qj4kc]

7/7 for me. Focus in the background and foreground gave it away as well as level of detail and granularity. There was one photo where the buildings were slanted near the edge of the photo and I saw that as a typical artifact of camera phones. Overall great video! Great job guys! You've helped convince me of the picture prowess of the iphone 12. TY.

[@coreywelch]

Comparing the shots side by side I was able to get them all. The tower was the one that was a bit of a challenge, but I picked the correct one because I based my decision on what my guess of the focal length. But if you uploaded them without the side by side, it would be pretty hard to pick out, I bet. I also shoot analog film, so that's probably why I was able to pick the correct ones.

[@dylanlockemp3]

am i the only one that never guesses these wrong. i've seen so many similar vids and it's always so obvious to me. i really don't know if everyone is acting or what.

[@seanwelden4284]

what gives it away for you?

[@dylanlockemp3]

@@seanwelden4284 i’m not exactly sure, my brain just knows what an iphone camera looks like. it tends to be dynamic range & dynamic sharpness that gives it away for me.

[@streaxgamer5617]

@@dylanlockemp3 do u use an iphone ? maybe thats what makes it easy for u

[@dylanlockemp3]

@@streaxgamer5617 i do, maybe i just recognize it.

[@lordvader4107]

Yea, it’s extremely easy for me too. It’s so obvious which is which

[@ekjotsngh]

Who else saw the title and thought the video was going to be about the Sony A1? 😅😑

[@mattih]

That would be a 6500 body only setup 😂

[@ericb8985]

There was still an embargo on the A1 and the cam itself is more expensive.

[@ekjotsngh]

@@mattih 😅😅

[@darkftforce]

sony a1 is USD $6500 not Canadian Dollars. In Canada A1 is Canadian $8500 Body only!

[@ekjotsngh]

@@darkftforce yup realized that afterwards. This comment was like a few hours after sony released it lol

[@jaredpollack35]

On the first one the dynamic range gives it away. The blacks in the clothing and the detail from exposure in the CN Tower.

[@mimptattoovlog]

really hard to tell the difference between phone and dslr in this year 2021.

[@adrianfaulkner1353]

They're still nowhere near close, i have a 25 year old piont and shoot that in good light can take as good as a shot, but step out of good light and the iPhone falls apart very fast but the full frame camera still looks amazing, this is just click bait

[@CarlBergsdorf]

@@adrianfaulkner1353 I wouldn't call it click bait, they're just showing cases which are somewhat compareable. But I agree it would be interesting to see how the iPhone stacks up in more difficult scenarios like low light. Obviously the tiny sensor of a phone can't compare in itself to a full frame sensor but it's amazing what the phone is able to achieve trough software.

[@adrianfaulkner1353]

@@CarlBergsdorf I somewhat agree with software making it better, I have 12pro max and as soon as I got it began testing it's capabilities but I can't see in any way or any different light scenarios where it's even close so I do believe that it's very misleading and not truthful, even in great light the amount of details and sharpness and information in the my A7riii files is hugely better in every way

[@CarlBergsdorf]

@@adrianfaulkner1353 For a pro or someone who demands more control and the ability to work with the pictures in post, a camera will always be better but Im just thinking for the ”everyday person” who posts pictures on Instagram every now and then and not prints of need high res images, the iPhone Pro would be more than okay but I agree they can’t replace something like a Sony A7RIII anytime soon for sure when it comes to pure quality

[@vg6761]

@@CarlBergsdorf A7RIII, D8350, XT-4 All have bluetooth connectivity. Transferring files to your phone to upload on social media is no problem. 😁

[@AV8R_1]

When you are vlogging on the iPhone, do you use the better quality cams on the back or are you using the display side selfie cam?

[@finnillson4808]

Still pretty easy. iPhone DOF can look unnatural and the skin tones look so plastic. I've found the R5 stills are just amazing. I've always said 30ish MP is enough but having 14-bit 45MP stills at 20FPS is oh so nice! Video out of the R5 looks amazing too. Really hoping to get CLOG3 soon!

[@humphreymothis3923]

Thanks for sharing this video

[@dolwolfianphotography]

The fact is getting more and more difficult to differential them mean phone camera getting very good 😏

[@marclabro]

nice video. did you use jpg, heic or appleraw on iphone 12 pro max ? did you retouch in lightroom and if so, with which presets ?

[@mattiejane9628]

The third one, you can tell the Apple right away from how soft Matti's face was.

[@dariasharashkina]

The forth images with the tower landscape are the hardest! Definitely hard to tell which one is a camera or an iPhone:) And also always love seeing how you create together!

[@venom5809]

Damn that place is incredible, what a view.

[@asfczvx837]

with the 6k camera, are they taking pictures raw and then editing the image with Lightroom or they just take jpg photos and post them ?

[@KyleWattsTV]

I feel the real winner here is the photo editing your using. Kinda shows that you can make a lot of photos look good using things like light room regardless of what camera you used

[@PKRproductionsuk]

For sure

[@GreenlifeFin]

Yes, exactly.

[@MrBlackReviews]

im loving these vids with your bro!!

[@byrevery]

That was so enjoyable to watch

[@JamesSmith-qv6lb]

That's insane I never would have thought the difference would get this small , amazing

[@PunchNugget]

this is exactly why I will never buy a $6000 set up. Im fine with my Sony a6400 / iPhone 12 Pro Max

[@peterh4282]

Can you make a video, where you show the settings you use on the iphone? And how you edit it? I assume you don’t use auto, right?

[@casteliero]

When you watch these on 85” tv, it’s much easier. Zero mistakes.

[@NoWayHoesay]

That’s the thing who looks at pictures on a 85 inch tv lol? 95% of people look at pictures on their iPhone

[@moritzio4.034]

Weird flex. BTW...

[@wanderingsoul8399]

LOL still riding high on a 42 inch 720p here! Way behind times...

[@casteliero]

@@moritzio4.034 there’s no flexing. Just an observation that it’s easier to spot differences on a bigger screen.

[@kalimarus]

I could see the difference on my iPhone 12 screen knowing what to look for. In the end nobody would notice the difference if you texted them and didn’t say what it came from and that’s why smartphones are killing camera sales. Unless you print it or need the manual controls the iphones good enough.

[@ghine5194]

Thanks for posting. Great video. Great channel. I take more and more photos with my iPhone 11 PRO and fewer and fewer with my big Canon camera. I am asking myself, when should I still use a big Canon. In some applications, such as on safari in Africa, I need a fast camera that can make use of a 400 mm zoom lens. I wonder what other situations or conditions are the big cameras (DSLR or mirrorless) still worth using?

[@arsalanshoaib5495]

2:30 Anyone else think the blurred out Teppo in the background looked like Mario?

[@jackdaw999]

Lol

[@MarkBowenPiano]

So the problem with the HDR on the iPhone not always being on I've read is the Smart HDR setting? If so is that setting only for Portrait mode or all photos as I tried turning it off but only get the HDR button on screen when in Portrait mode so guessing that the Smart HDR setting only affects Portrait shots? Or am I looking at the wrong thing here? Fantastic video by the way and got all the photos except for 1.

[@AERvideo]

I got 5 right, 2 wrong! 🤯 It's so amazing to see what this new technology of computational photography is doing. It's making great photography available for everyday people, and makes professional equipment obsolete (at least for specific types of photos). Yeah the iPhone 12 Pro Max is super pricy, but wait a few years and the budget phones will also take photos like that. Awesome video Matti!

[@heriansya_]

Thanks for making this video. Its so fun guessing the picture.. sooo close..

[@2tuff977]

You know somebody’s from Toronto when they call it “Chrawno”

[@swffgrff6536]

On iPhone you can add shallow depth of field with the Focos app. And control how much. Don’t know if it’s a professional thing to do but I love it.

[@jdsmedia]

I only got one wrong, but MAN those portrait shots were TOUGH. This is getting ridiculously close lol.

[@milesmartinez3577]

A couple things i often overlook when watching a video like this are frame rate, iso, other lenses, read/write speeds/buffer, detail retention when cropped/printed larger, post manipulation (especially when you’re shooting raw), ergonomics, filters, backups (when shooting to two slots), storage (interchangeable sd cards vs 128 gig max) that’s why you pay more I’m sure everybody knows this just wanted to make it apparent great video as always

[@ollejaama4216]

Kind of surprised, that I got everything right.

[@tonynikon]

Impressive results. I have the "just" iPhone 12 Pro Max with 512 Gb. I'd been using a manual Nikon FM2n and a Digital Nikon Df for years. I wonder how the iPhone's pics will come out using Moment Lenses vs. Nikon's counterparts?

[@duc8488]

I was wrong once. As good as the portraits are, I found it easiest to discover the difference there. And I personally don't like what the iphone does to the skin. Looks unnatural to me in direct comparison.

[@samuelcallen.]

Do you have any thoughts on c70 next to A7s iii? Trying to work out which I’d buy. Thanks

[@ArnavSharmaPhotography]

It's crazy how far phones have come to the point where an iPhone with a super tiny sensor can keep up with a professional full-frame camera!

[@awesomestuff2496]

iphone pics were clearly edited while R5 pics were not

[@ArnavSharmaPhotography]

@@awesomestuff2496 probably but it’s still pretty cool

[@wanderingsoul8399]

Absolutely correct!

[@adrianfaulkner1353]

I have the 12pro max and it's nowhere near a full frame mirrorless, in good light it can take a good shot but I have a 25 year old piont and shoot that in good light can take as good of shot, the iPhone falls apart fast out of Bright light but the camera still looks amazing, there's still a big difference between them

[@MrE.888]

The iPhone is the one that when you list as your main Camera in a proposal, the prospective client doesn't call you back

[@S.Creations1]

🤣

[@peterpaul9320]

For 90% of all situations and people the iPhone is the better camera. You have it always with you, and you can take pictures almost without people taking notice. So, the results will be more natural

[@CasanovaFrames]

Hi bro ..any tips for solving iPhone 12 lens flare issue while using night time . Please reply

[@iGobyy]

love to see how you're more lively, cheekier and just pleasantly happier in general. i noticed this straightaway ever since u brought teppo in the mix. yay!

[@oliverdelacruz]

Cool comparison! I got them all right…I had the resolution at 4K and put the video on full screen… and had to look at the details :-). For the last one, for sure the skin gave it away, but also the colors/lighting on your coat. For the 4th one with the tower in the center…. the shadows on the tower helped me choose, but it was still a bit of guesswork. For the 5th one….the text on your sweater helped give it away. Thanks for the video!

[@kmac540]

Plans to make motion graphics for FCPX? I would buy them in a heartbeat.

[@LBUSDesigns]

5/7 as well! It is really good! I think I got one of the ones you got wrong right... but still so hard to tell!

[@stevenrussell5937]

what a beautiful view from that patio! must be so refreshing up there at -12 in the morning!

[@foodboozeandstuff9100]

It would be great if you could do a comparison using Moment lenses, I think that you would see a significant improvement in DoF:) I have been doing a lot of testing with the iPhone 12 Pro Max and Moment lenses, and I have produced prints at A3+ that look amazing. I am very close to ditching my DSLR setup and just going with the iPhone 12 Max Pro, Moment lenses, and my Sony RX100 MK 7 for my future setup. I have now added the PolarPro LiteChaser Director collection to my setup, so I am now covered the video production as well:)

[@MrIlovesubaru]

9:55 Look at the unnatural edge of the collar on the iPhone vs the R5, and the missing drawstring.

[@pennhills13]

Also missed the first landscape shot from the balcony.... Just amazing the similarities that these phones are able to get close to

[@lieutenantwah]

Toujours aussi impressionnant ce genre de comparatif

[@tpcomcam]

Great video - your team work make great watching.

[@kore996]

Was this using Apple ProRAW mode on the iPhone?

[@OskuPenttinen]

I shot a film recently using a BMPCC 4K and iPhone 12 Pro Max completely with anamorphic lenses on both (Sirui and Moment). With some care in shooting and colour correction in post, they are virtually indistinguishable from each other. The only thing that gives away the difference is the lack of DoF in the iPhone - ie. everything is sharp in wider shots. In closeups, even the iPhone squeezed out some shallow DoF. The digital sharpness of the iPhone is easily compensated for with a 10% Cinebloom Diffusion filter.

[@JamieSandel]

Are you using the “telephoto” lens for your portraits? On the 11 Pro the optical quality is so bad

[@javi6303]

I got all of them right especially after you mentioned that iPhone has way more details and also because for some reason iPhone has more of a zoomed out effect. But the details one helped me out on almost all of them.

[@CarlosMartinezxFulLxArsenaLx]

I only got 4 and 5 wrong. What gave most of them away for me what the highlights and DoF. If you're just posting to IG and other social media, a smartphone will be more than enough. For me personally, the experience of actually taking the photo and the tactile feel of actually holding a full-fledged camera in my hands and turning dials is just as important to me as the photo and that's something you just don't get with a phone. Still shoot a lot with my phone, but I always pull my camera out first. Great video as always!

[@codymont]

Was that the newly built Skytower that Teppo's staying in?? Or is it the taller of the two ICE condos buildings? SUPER cool view!!!!

[@hamzaakr5007]

i get all right except 1 image. just look at blur and details stuff to the point out which image is take from which camera

[@johncarson1427]

Now can you do the same test with the Samsung 21 Ultra. would be a great comparison to have all 3 pics to choose from.

[@sueswank433]

Plus, I’m also looking at shooting a short film on it as well!

[@TRCass]

I've been subbed to Matti for years also subbed to Teppo last year, I hardly comment on videos but I have to say I LOVE this for the channel Matti and Teppo have such great wholesome energy on screen, family goals right there

[@KokkiePiet]

I got most of them right but that is not the point I think. I can see the difference, but the amazing thing is here, how incredible good the iPhone photos are for such a small lens and sensor. I would really love to have an Canon FF Camera like the R5 with the computational photography capabilities of the iPhone. I would love to have seen a video comparison too, saw a comparison between a Sony FDR-AX700 4K HDR Camcorder and the iPhone 12 Pro Max and it is amazing how well there it also keeps up.

[@CZRProduction]

I got iphone 12 pro max too but i find it to be overrated in terms of videography use, maybe my expectation is too high for iphone? Can u make a comparison on some random dslr/mirrorless vs iphone12promax in video terms like a similar video u did last time, but this time make the footage slightly longer and not short cut scene like the previous one

[@StalinBrosef]

7:07 What gave it away to me was the background compression. The iPhone does a great job in portrait mode with simulated bokeh blur, but you can't spoof focal length.

[@SarahJonestoo]

You are teaching me well! I got one wrong. This video is such a good learning tool for central principals and a good assessment of what I've picked up so far from you and the other channels to which I subscribe! Thanks. Much appreciated!

[@davidhughes4489]

I think i was selecting preference over actually choosing which, but im on the fence on maybe to buy the 12 pro max over the 12pro because of the camera capabilities and this has been very helpful, many thanks

[@sueswank433]

Plus you know you can adjust the iso and exposure as well with iPhone 12 Pro Max?

[@victorgallwey6017]

Matti PLEASE PLEASE can you make your amazing editing packs compatible with FCP. PLEASE!

[@RGMGFitness]

I got a lot more wrong than you did Matti. But once you started pointing out the differences, and after you know what to start looking it helps. But no way I would ever know for sure after some editing in lightroom.

[@chantellefollows1321]

Was the iPhone pictures shot in high or most compatible jpeg thanks 😊

[@colinyoungscot]

This is my concern. I've just bought a Sony a6400 with a kit lense and wonder if I should just 've bought a current handset... I'm very new to photography, why go with the Sony (for exmplae) over a phone?

[@tomastorasen9164]

Very happy to see this, just a few days from picking up my 12 pro max

[@Anna-io5fs]

Matti have you done a side by side comparison of the iPhone 12 Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max? Debating bc of using it to photo and video things when I can’t bring my heavy setup with me. I’m laughing. Here because I downgraded 2 years ago to the iPhone SE since I have small hands. The quality sucks right now and it’s dying on me 😂

[@VozMadridista]

In the portrait there is a greenish color cast in the shadows (very noticeable in the jacket)

[@GreggoryMiller]

I got the same ones right and wrong as you. You’re definitely helping to train my eye!

[@adventuretimefishinghunting]

Really enjoy watching your stuff! And really enjoying the dynamic between you and your brother!

[@immeremma]

Congratulations on 1mil Matti!