Matt's Inferno (Part 2)

[@spadetheartist7390]

This video game made me read the poem Dante's Inferno back in the day and boy it was a treat to see how different these were. My favorite was when Vergil kicked the shit out of cerberus for getting too close to Dante of whom was wetting his pants in fear of the demon. That's basically the sukkary of Dante's Inferno. Vergil kicking the shit out of things and Dante going heart eyes at how amazing his senpai is. You know, whenever he isn't busy being an Angry Italian and yelling at people while Vergil holds his earrings.

[@TheZombiDude]

This might be the best description of Dante's inferno i've read.

[@Iamafishproductions]

Don't forget early on when they're in Limbo and Dante is ramping up his self-insert fanfiction by talking to all the Greek and Roman philosophers he's a huge fan of, and being told by them that he's also super cool and smart and handsome, and then they proceed to fight each other shirtless in the rain.

[@Ghost_of_Avalon]

for more Dante related fun, I recommend listening to Dante's Inferno by Iced Earth. It does a really good job capturing the atmosphere of descending into hell

[@ianmccready4960]

I feel over the course of this playthrough it will be important to mention that Dante's Inferno (and all of the divine comedy) is the equivalent of Biblical and Catholic Fanfiction. Dante mainly made all this shit up himself and injected many of his own biases into his story, which is why Vergil is so important because Dante loved Vergil.

[@ninja_kareca]

Dude had such a bromance he wrote an entire chapter where they fight shirtless in the rain.

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

Dante Aligeri wanted that judgement nut

[@matthewy2j]

Roman Catholic here, Dante's inferno is actually deeply frowned upon by the church due to his liberties when using greek mythology and for his embellishment of the pagan religions at the time (Trajan was in heaven for some weird reason) in addition to privately placing political rivals in hell, displaying an inherent narrative bias. Although never outright banned by the church, it wasn't exactly advertised as a "must read" if you know what I mean.

[@sinistropteryx3113]

It was also way more of a political satire than a theological work. That’s why Dante had specific punishments for different sins, it was basically so he could accuse people he didn’t like of those things by putting them in certain circles.

[@courierofyesterday]

Well to be fair when Dante wrote the Divine Comedy he was just having fun thinking how to punish his political enemies.

[@ragnar3434]

Yeah, but he also thought he was writing prophesy. He tried to predict the day of his own death and everything. Dante: a guy who thought his works were practically canon in the FULL sense of the word canon. I can't believe Dante never got boiled alive or dismembered or some shit.

[@albertzinger7132]

So he basically was medieval italian Chris Chan.

[@patrickwilde5827]

@@ZanraiKid Does that mean when the church commissioned art of the Divine Comedy it was technically the world's first Doujinshi?

[@mindshuffler3332]

Dante: "They told me that Jesus would take the wheel....but THEY LIED!!!"

[@andrewnicorn]

This is a game that I kinda rolled my eyes at when it came out, but now I'm just glad that such a thing like this exists and I'm kinda baffled that there was a point where it was a good idea to make this game.

[@ragnar3434]

Same. There are some really cool ideas here, and I never heard of Wayne Barlowe but his Hell art is fucking righteous. I'm amazed they threw in these Gharbad the Weak-looking dudes in here with it, like we wouldn't notice.

[@Tinlion09]

I'm guessing this isn't the kind of game where _killing Death_ will have any lasting ontological repercussions. Like, that didn't seem to prevent people from dying or anything, if the crowd lining up for the Charon trip is any indication. The Crusades probably would have taken a very different path in history if everyone just...stopped dying in the middle of the First Siege of Acre, for no obvious reason.

[@JohnSmith-ef2rn]

Look, I'm not religious myself, not in the slightest, but this game treats Christian theology the way the Ace Attorney games treat the American Justice System.

[@dragamation3266]

At least Ace Attorney has the excuse of being in some weird alternate japan-california

[@sinisteroglop]

The Ace Attorney games are actually uncomfortably accurate satire of the Japanese criminal justice system.

[@caladeuka7319]

How so?

[@sivispacemparabellum2298]

as some one who is religious but read the 3 books in school. its like someone got high on lsd was read the bible buy someone who was on acid and then they did bathsalt and wrote a book

[@Mcaark]

I am religious, and appreciate this comment.

[@Schlachthaus999]

"Unbaptised babies got a raw deal. Better punish all of them."

[@PharosofLight]

The suddenness of when you get something from talking to Virgil is stunning. Almost like it was intended to be given to you somewhere else. Dante asks for help, an item is given instantly, and Virgil talks like he didnt just do that...

[@harlannguyen4048]

Does the Relics do anything in this game?

[@MisanthropicMarxist]

It's weird that Visceral chose to make Limbo so awful, since Dante described it as not really being all that unpleasant. Like the people there aren't having a party or anything, but they're not being tortured, they're just kinda left to their own devices, and their punishment is just an eternity of not getting into heaven

[@josh-oo]

Sounds just like real life. Except, y'know, not real...

[@TheSamgo]

Eternal boredom sounds like torture to me

[@MisanthropicMarxist]

@@TheSamgo It's not boredom, though. Basically, the idea is that Dante envisions Limbo as being a lot like regular life, only without the possibility of death, and without the hope of going to heaven.

[@michaelcreech8957]

Diet hell

[@jackjaw2209]

Imagine if this got a God of War style reboot and won game of the year.

[@Gamefreak175]

tbh this would've needed the gameplay style of the new GoW more than GoW did xD

[@agoodboy1404]

If they make a sequel(and I hope they do😇) I would rather they try using the same type of gameplay but more improved, with some additional mechanics that would make the game more interesting.

[@DracoRulezU]

Matt I just wanted to tell you that I love your videos. You're a fantastic content creator. Also man, DMC5 took a turn.

[@varg6663]

I'm so SO happy you got to do an LP of this glorious mess! And even happier I get a new video on my birthday! Thanks for this great present Matt!! ^__^

[@-THE_META]

Matt's Shade Notes: Pontius Pilate was the man who condemned Jesus to death. He tried to abate the crowd by giving them a notorious criminal to crucify instead but for some reason they really wanted that Jesus blood so he give in to the crowd. The phrase my hands are clean or my hands are tied likely come from him. Elektra didn't really kill her mother she conspired with her brother who did kill their mother. Their mother killed their father beforehand mostly as a power play. Their entire family had a history with kinslaying, but they are usually thought to have made it right, their trilogy of plays are likely one of the originators for the word dilemma. Honestly Elektra deserved to be saved more then Pilate. Speaking of good pagans in hell. Yes, if you do not accept Jesus into your heart you go to hell that's the Bible, that's the Divine Comedy with like one pseudo exception. There's the brakes. It's the biggest reason I am not religious anymore. In the Divine Comedy proper, the babies are implied to be asleep or doing baby things not unholy blade arm lil death machines. The rest of the good pagans like Hector chill in Limbo which is like a giant Starbucks. It's not the best but it's the best in hell and there's great conversation. Presumably they can rest and eat and do Starbucks things. Jesus might come and save them all after the apocalypse, maybe depends on the interpretation.

[@C0LDW4RK1D]

That Starbucks comparison is really apt.

[@kingnull2697]

In Christian Theology, the Harrowing of Hell is the time period from when Christ died to when he rose, & was in Hell for the sins of the world. This is when everyone in hell would be exposed to the Gospel, & rescued from torment. So anyone in Hell got their chance (Adam & Eve are venerated as Saints, for example). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell Pilate, as an eyewitness observer or one who heard their accounts, would have likely had an earthly chance to be saved. Electra would have had to wait for the Harrowing. Anyways, "If life was fair we'd all be in Hell." - Doug Wilson. Sorry for necro-ing an ancient comment, just thought it was relevant & important.

[@Tinlion09]

17:00 Cool Bible Fact: The Mark of Cain was actually a sign of protection by the Lord and a warning to other men to _not_ punish Cain for committing murder/fratricide...because He wanted Cain _alllll to Himself_ for that one, when the time came. Anyone who killed Cain would suffer seven times as much punishment in turn. According to some traditions, this part of the curse was passed down to Cain's children, and its magnitude increased _exponentially_ with each new generation. Good thing the only survivors of the Great Flood were blood of Seth, right?

[@TheTygre]

Inferno Facts #2 In the original poem, the first layer of Hell was... kind of not really that Hellish. Yeah, they it was more boring than anything else because it was supposed supposed to represent Limbo. People sit around, occasionally cry about not living a good enough life, and it's just kind of dull. The area of the 'virtuous pagan's is even its own city that naturally includes all of Dante Alighieri's favorite poets and historical figures; Homer, Ovid, Hector, Aeneas, Julius Caesar, and, ironically for this game, Saladin. Also in the original poem, Charon explicitly does not want to let Dante onto his ferry since Dante is still alive. Vergil basically has to bully Charon onto letting them through, and Dante faints from terror like a Victorian novel protagonist. This is also weirdly not the first time King Minos has shown up in an action RPG. In Greek mythology, Minos was appointed as one of the three judges of the underworld by Hades, Aeacus and Rhadamanthus (aka two other guys that nobody really cares about because they didn't get a monster named after them and their dad wasn't Zeus shapeshifted into a bull). The three are shown in statue form in God of War 3.

[@Iamafishproductions]

The fact that the first layer of Hell is where all the virtuous pre-Christians go makes Orpheus' line when you save him kind of hilarious. He mentions how Elysium is so beautiful as he's being saved, despite the fact that since Limbo and Elysium are essentially the same place, he should just be waiting on the boat to get off at the first stop.

[@LuckeeStrikee]

Well, at least the three judges of hell got some sleek surplices in Saint Seiya.

[@spadetheartist7390]

You may want to censor Beatrice a little less aggressively so that they cover the subtitles. I love them personally but what's the point of having subtitles on if all Devil/Beatrice scenes are mysteries to the hard of hearing.

[@Xzeihoranth]

"You've cheated Death once already!" Yeah, killed him too, as the first boss. You'd think that shouldn't be possible, but EA.

[@trtx84]

What are the theological repercussions of not only murdering Death but then Charon as well?

[@Frostman411]

Honestly when I heard this game was getting made, I thought it would be more puzzle based than anything. Then I saw it was combat based and I was like sure, may still be fun. Then the Super Bowl "Ain't No Sunshine" trailer came out and won me over (I was like 15, sue me). When I bought the game and saw the graphics I knew what I was in for... Not my proudest buy. Matt I'm glad you're not too much of a coward to finally confront this title.

[@jonnysac77]

I wonder how Dante Alaghieri would feel about this super buff warrior version of himself?

[@JohnRaines]

Considering that the Divine Comedy was literally nothing but a Self-Insert Fanfic?

[@michaelcreech8957]

He was a foot soldier for a short time I’m not sure how he thought of being in the army but he’d probably like being a badass

[@flightgravity7483]

“Pontius Pee-lah-tay” Never stopping Matt-ing, Matt.

[@DJBlastotron]

25:21 After this line, there is no possible way I can take Dante seriously in any context.

[@pmunkyandpals11]

That superbowl ad blew my mind at the time... still does

[@doblelariat9387]

12:10 actually that's a good question, the answer it's kinda on the grey territory of the Catholicism, you see for catholics if you didn't have a baptism you go straight to hell when you die, so... every catholic have the power to baptism someone if they are near dead as stated on the sacrament of confirmation (also called Chrismation) to avoid damnation of those souls, there's also the Anointing of the Sick wich is a sacrament for those who have their days numbered, in which every sin is absolved and while normally a priest would do the job a confirmed Catholic can do it too, it sounds crazy but it's just religion

[@thedukeofdorks6001]

The devil groping jesus makes me feel funny. Not good. But not bad.

[@crimsongrain6163]

I love how old Testament this game is, it's so wonderfully dark.

[@Sayiseesteel]

Ok, So I checked out God's Demon by Wayne Barlowe and Barlowe's inferno and WOW its very badass. I'm glad you brought this to my attention because again, very awesome.

[@Inerrant1]

Why does riding on the back of the siege beast thing make Dante and them MIND-LINKED? How does it know he wants to rip Charon's head off and throw it? Why does it need help knowing how to climb and scamper to safety up a collapsing wall thing?

[@werwolfnate]

From what I could tell when I played it, I think it has something to do with the death scythe taking over the monster.

[@DrPie0licious]

Haha boy, this game sure gives me a SPLITTING HEADACHE

[@ghosthand3737]

This game needs to be remade proper, it's to neat of a concept to go to waste, hell get Wayne Barlow to do all the desing and give the gameplay to platinum.

[@ldw_sparky]

Dante Alighieri Rising: The Divine Comedying

[@ghosthand3737]

@@ldw_sparky stop making me want things I know will never happen

[@banenation]

After watching the first episode you inspired me to pick up God's Demon by Barlow, I love that someone else loves his inferno!

[@elkin2567]

I love Matt and this lets play but you could do a drinking game every time he says “we will talk about that later”

[@ThOrb_God_of_Chonk]

Man, I'm so happy you finally got to do this LP. I've played this game more times than I probably should have. I unironically like this game, with both its crappy and hilarious flaws. Thanks for the hard work Matt, Game is a big, bombastic, stupid, adventure. Just how I like it.

[@TheTyper]

Hey Matt. I realize you making this, even doing it alone, is comparable to Woolie doing the Reboot game and bringing people into it, except everyone has refused to aid you with your thing. So it's that much harder. Plus Woolie had people helping him and he turned that thing into a podcast for a bit. And...like...that makes it extremely clear that you must have a lot of drive to do this LP and talk about the aspects of Dante's Inferno to you that are good or worth conversing and looking at and sharing with people....without anyone next to you while playing all of it. Cause you've been trying for some time now. I just wanted to let you know that I see that drive and effort. And hopefully other people see that too with you and the people out there that do this stuff. Cause it tells me all three of you aren't taking what you've got for granted and are taking advantage of your place to be able to say, "Hey this is the thing I'm interested in." And like Woolie likes to point out: Not everyone follows the rock star into the thing that no one cares about, they normally just demand Freebird again and again. And while you won't always do things that interest me, I have some respect for people who are honest about what interests them, even in the face of no one doing the thing with you and facing the inferno alone. Really looking forward to this LP that I would never play myself cause Dead Space was more my jam.

[@seanschockaert]

Glad to see atleast one of the Best Friends has the guts to venture into hell (without a devil trigger)

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

>visceral was into NTR it explains so much

[@SalientLamprophany]

Matt, you were mixing up bad comic book movie moments. The basketball scene was in Catwoman. Dare Devil had an equally embarrassing scene in a playground on a see-saw.

[@Dumaiu]

The famous 'Abandon all hope' stanza was originally an inscription at the gate, but giving the line to Charon is a decent alternative.

[@AshhNT1]

today on Matt's Inferno: Matt absolves Pontius Pilate, the guy who sentenced Jesus (and many others) to crucifixion and invented washing your hands! Aw that's sweet.

[@SkyCapatanio]

I'm loving this series and can't wait for more, but the censorship that covers most of the screen on some occasions, including the subtitles is a little much

[@DarkMProductions]

Wait, so if this is hell and everyone is already dead, how can Dante kill everyone?

[@HorrorManMike]

I wish there was a mod to change the dialog Minos yells in the background. It would be hilarious to hear him shouting and condemning souls for different things. "JAYWALKING!!!.... NOSE-PICKING!!!... BABY KICKING!!!... SOFTWARE PIRATING!!!"

[@TheProphessionalGeek]

Possible spoilers for the game, but there’s a reason Dante can absolve or punish souls in the Divine Comedy: In the Divine Comedy Dante is alive, which carries a couple advantages. One of which is that if a living person prays for the soul of someone trapped in hell or Purgatory then it will actually earn them good karma points and will advance them ever so slowly up the circles and closer to heaven. Btw this is the only way those damned in hell can ever hope to improve their lot (Unless Jesus gives them a personal pardon) so hopefully they made some good friends. After you get to Purgatory you actually get the agency to work off the rest of your sins yourself for a few....hundred or thousand years. Can’t remember any specific examples but there’s multiple times when Dante is talking to a soul and at the end of the exchange he agrees to pray for their souls salvation and they get a moment of relief.

[@getschwifty5537]

So, is it ever explained why random nobody Dante gets to play God and send sinners to heaven? Could he theoretically just tour all of hell and send *everyone* to heaven?

[@michaelcreech8957]

David Lopez probably cause in the book Beatrice is like an angel and Dante’s got her crucifix

[@dr.popping8560]

I find it funny how you're like "Oh yeah these babies did nothing wrong but they went to hell and that's pretty fucked." And then proceeded to absolve exactly none of them.

[@MattMcMuscles]

It would be annoying to do so though.

[@skyounkin]

Dude!! You mentioning Wayne Barlowe is awesome- my dad had one of his books from 1979 where he did illustrations of well known sci-fi creatures/characters. "Barlowe's Guide To Extraterrestrials" you should definitely check it out if you get the chance if you haven't already.

[@qtshutin3030]

In all seriousness out of all the studios that went under it is a real shame that Visceral had to go.

[@beepbeeplettuce5890]

one thing to mention, in the poem, Virgil is in limbo when not being a guide and has a circle of friends, and dante fan girls when he see this circle of famous poets and the sort

[@ragnar3434]

Putting Dante's writing right next to Visceral's was not a good idea. The whiplash is outrageous. I paused the game to type this, so no idea if the game gets around to mentioning it, but the souls suffering outside Hell (the place this game calls Limbo, though the poem doesn't, not that it matters) are out there specifically because they're the lifelong opportunists, people who never took sides in great conflicts or else switched sides as it suited them, ultimately always looking out for number one. They make an interesting parallel to the traitors, who are down in the very lowest parts of Hell. Virgil says these opportunists aren't allowed in Hell because then the rest of the damned could gloat over how pathetic these guys are. Dante hated them more than he hated traitors, which is impressive, considering treachery is how his political movement got shut down.

[@ragnar3434]

Wait no, the game wasn't calling that Limbo. Fuckin oops. That Minos section was legit cool. I respected that.

[@DigitalGame18]

You could say Dante will A-Char-e-on as a wayward son, And that he might find peace when he is done, to finally lay his weary head to rest, and let the demons cry no more.

[@dude1andjude2]

Too bad we never got the whole trilogy made into games.

[@connortripp99]

I swear, the voice actor for lucifer sounds like emperor Palpatine in his 20s.

[@trtx84]

The "things escalated quickly" theme continues as your first opportunity to Absolve/Punish is the man who condemned Jesus to death. XTREME!

[@algi1]

20:00 The baby necromorphs are from the good Dead Space. The first one.

[@KaptinScuzgob]

what if i just dont get on the boat

[@lautalocos]

SNIFF AGAIN!

[@Inerrant1]

Why does Dante introduce himself as "One who loves Beatrice!" like King Minos knows who the fuck that is- like there's not 410 billion dead Beatrices in Hell.

[@battletoads22]

0:45 It takes more than "being nice" to stay out of Hell, Matt. God and Satan are not Santa Claus and the Krampus.

[@stonearmor]

I mean, of anybody, yeah Matt, Abel's fine. Also, SNIFF AGAIN

[@JVarley9001]

I think the animated cutscenes are kinda okay, but maybe that's because I'm also watching the DMC Devil May Cry LP on the main channel and the cutscenes in the Vergil DLC are just unfinished storyboards with a little animation

[@goodshotcam]

this LP is the best

[@BigSisterNeko]

youre the bravest of them all

[@Ghost_of_Avalon]

The souls that wail on this plane pray for death Denial is the reason for their suffering Forever being stung by wasps and Demon's breath The blood and tears that fall serve the maggots' needs

[@en4135]

Man I played this like 4 times yet have no memory of it.

[@pastmistakes524]

24:31

[@CircadianRhythmm]

Even his run animation looks like the original god of war series. Still a dope game tho.

[@Stormfin]

Matt, I will give you money, for real cash, if you would just record a few of the Asterian Beasts (big monsters) roars and screeches with no music or noise in the way of it. Please.

[@worryy]

_sniff_ _again_

[@Mistheart101]

To be fair, Abel probably got a pass because he's the one that got murdered. As far as I know he didn't do much wrong?

[@MattMcMuscles]

Why was he sent to limbo in the first place?

[@Mistheart101]

@@MattMcMuscles I can't find any actual Bible Canon on where he went after he died so I guess that can be chalked up to the game making weird writing choices, I guess? All things considered, he should've gone to Heaven in the first place. Maybe God just didn't have the place ready yet. He was the first person to die, so that may be the case.

[@kingnull2697]

@@Mistheart101 Excuse the Necro: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell

[@AgressiveMonkee]

*WE DO IT*

[@Radditz770]

I like how you say "This enemy is so generic demon/generic hell" When THAT IS WHAT CHRISTIANITY HELL IS xD

[@datonkallandor8687]

Oh god I forgot about Dance Dance Absolution!

[@SlimJimApproves]

You know, the idea of a Crusader or holy warrior type going against the legions of hell is actually a pretty rad idea, but just about everything that tries it either gets the theology totally wrong to the point of just being ridiculous, or they go super edge-lord mode like the vibe I'm getting from this game.

[@FiveSeVIIen]

I imagine if this game was made by the developers of lords of the fallen, dante would have ''Holy spartan rage''

[@Kyle_P_31]

I'm kinda glad I did not ever play this but... the things i heard about this game is interesting.

[@BilalKhan-io2oh]

Alright dude outro music woke the house

[@CrimsonOptics]

Damn after looking up Wayne Barlowe's artwork, I really wish the entire game was based around his artstyle, like holy shit. You would find eyeball pillars crying blood and shit.

[@chadrussel1221]

You get relics for talking to Vergil more... Oh man... I think I may have made the game harder on myself

[@XradicalD]

This game is awesome!

[@ejihajwilhelm4604]

You spoil us Mister McMuscles

[@TheyCallMeSharkface]

taunting dante is a tongue twister

[@michaelcreech8957]

I don’t know about you but this game makes me terrified of every bad thing I’ve ever done

[@oddwolf4601]

These edits^^

[@thebigspook]

i unironically love this game, its so dumb, edgy, and over the top. This lets play made me pop the disc back in.

[@jalinclay3714]

Minos: *sniffs woolie* TREACHERY AND PIE THIEVERY

[@datonkallandor8687]

Man the only good depiction of hell in a video game is still Solium Infernum huh?

[@pillagius]

Editing is godlike.

[@wybub]

I kinda like the animated cutscenes.

[@Cactusman129]

the general theme of this game seems to be "Everything Visceral stole is great and everything they made sucks"

[@letyvdx]

A Power Pope?

[@Pomho1812]

Kinda wish he would show his moves upgrades at least once per 1-2 episodes

[@Stormfin]

Oh man, Charon had the best boss music. Fucking 13:40, man.

[@qlipothian]

Hector shouldn't be in hell....but Paris should be.

[@blipblap8798]

Punish the babies

[@SAVicissitude]

I think you mean Dance Dance Absolution :v

[@FROGfIend313]

That Satan reminds me of devil man

[@ColdNorth0628]

I think you should shrink the censored just a bit to not hide the subtitles and other stuff goin on.

[@zane770]

why does dante deny king minos' appraisal of him? he's all three of those things. wtf

[@twothcoopth]

Absolving Pontius Pilate of all people seems fucking ridiculous from a religious stand point

[@TomatoAbe]

Uhh so weird question, but is anyone else getting these auto-playing as soon as they're uploaded? Like I'll be watching something else and all of a sudden Dante's Inferno just pops up in the middle of it. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Bossman's making these, but I'd like to watch them on my own schedule. Like I don't know if I somehow changed something in my settings by accident just for this channel, or if it's something on KZbin's end or what.