Matt's Inferno (Part 4)

[@XxLoukichoxX]

Matt is totally not drunk during this episode

[@MattMcMuscles]

you caught me!

[@SpectralSlugger]

@@MattMcMuscles why did the second episode outro cut you off mid-sentence

[@jasonmullin3522]

Was checking the comments to see if he was

[@courierofyesterday]

So far this tour of EA HQ is pretty nice.

[@nameistaken]

Woolie the Coward Refused to do the LP of Dante's Inferno with Matt for fear that it might tarnish his reputation. X Punish B Absolve

[@LethargicGM]

X

[@nickhunter8993]

B

[@HellRider_]

He had to go through Vergil's Downfall, that alone is punishment.

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

X

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

If this was woolie the collaborator we would see him fedex Beatrise to beelzebub

[@jonnysac77]

Kinda cute that Dante wrote himself and his favourite roman poet going on adventures through Hell and Purgatory together, Dante was basically 1300s Chris Chan

[@takashi0100]

Chris-chan wouldn't ever admit to his own sins and have his waifu scream at him to repent from them like everyone else.

[@aidlord23]

Go Verchu! Go out and Journey to the extreme!

[@OdysseusKing]

Dante's Inferno has always been somewhere between literary masterpiece and shitty, cringe-inducing self-insert The equivalent of a modern politician writing a fictional story about how all his partisan rivals are deeply evil and will burn in hell for it. It codified Italian literature and its style of epic poem, but it's also a story about the author unironically explaining to the reader why all his bullies are evil and should suffer for eternity because they stole his lunch money. At least it gave us some great lines to apply to our own lives. "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" indeed.

[@ItsAllJohnny]

Dante's Dad: "You'll never take me!" *Immediately gets taken*

[@MisanthropicMarxist]

Those references to Dante's family are for the poet. He loved putting people he didn't like in Hell, even people who were still alive when he wrote the poem. He justified it by saying that some people's sins were so bad that their souls just immediately went to Hell for them, although their bodies stayed alive.

[@RememberJudas314]

To answer your question Matt, Dante's Inferno should of gone the survival horror route. Dante should have stayed as a poet; super weak and defenseless against the demons of Hell. You would be forced down narrow and claustrophobic passages in areas that are stylized as the circles of Hell. They could have used the shades as a kind of door to the next area - you would have to present to them a flame as a key and the flame would either devour them to punish them or absolve them as some kind of flame of hope. And then the number of shades you absolved or punish will factor into the ending or something.

[@MartinDemario]

Nah, I want more of a Resident Evil 2 type of vibe. What I'm capable but I'm still weak at the most enemies

[@banteringking5298]

Matt i love you

[@zachbrummett2188]

Mat sempi diski

[@devanmuse]

Welcome back to Dante's Inferno: Cucked by Satan edition

[@oddskymikha8185]

I still can't get over the fact that apparently, the brother of that lady Dante laid with, who were freed after the act, went through the trouble of: finding the name of the guy who porked his sister, finding out where exactly he lived, finding transportation despite the fact he probably had no money, surviving the trip at sea, not getting immediately arrested when he landed in Italy ('cause you know heretics/infidels and all that), travelling across Italy to find Dante's home without getting arrested or beaten up by some racist Italians, all that so that he could murder Dante's wife for revenge? I mean, Dante and his troops did burn down his town/village/whatever along with his friends and probably the rest of his family, but why focus on that one dude specifically when with those amazing stealth skills he apparently has, he could have just murdered the commander who led the attack or any other leader. There were way more deserving targets is what I'm saying, considering Dante at least lets them go. "Oh, but the story is about Dante and we needed a reason for his wife to die so that Satan could kidnap her and make her his sex t-WIFE, and so that Dante descends into Hell to be confronted by his sins." THEN MAKE HIS DAD KILL HIS WIFE Seriously that solves so many problems, make his asshole father try to rape Dante's wife, they struggle and both die by stabbing each other or something. Satan still gets the girl, dad still goes to Hell to become a boss and Dante is still just a man overwhelmed by the various atrocities he commited in the name of God. I get that there's poetic justice in having the last remaining member of the Uchiha clan kill his wife but how the fuck did he get there?! Why wouldn't that guy try to kill the guy who murdered his entire race?! If he's so good at finding people, how did he not learn any of the crusaders' wherabouts in his own fucking country?! How exactly do you learn the full name and home address of someone when you don't have access to any kind of records or achives, heck, when you don't even speak the same language?! DID SATAN TELL HIM? THEN PLEASE SATAN TELL US YOU TOLD THAT DUDE WHERE TO FIND BEATRICE. BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE UP IN ARMS ABOUT THIS POORLY DONE CONTRIVED DEVELOPMENT. I'm getting so angry over this stupid minute detail, is this what it feels like to be trapped in the circle of Wrath? I'm not even sure if I'm mad about the game or the original book...

[@GenerationWest]

I like that in the animated film of Dante's Inferno, his "Greed" Dad is voiced by freakin' Mark Hamill.

[@olhaaliogenerico]

I imagine Beatrice at her home: "Ah, I'm bored. Hey, satan, wanna do a bet?" "Bitchin'. What is it?" "I'll bet my soul on my husband's loyalty thoughout his crusade." "Fine, if I win, I get your ass as a prize." "Ok." Because there's no serious way that a person would be so stupid do to that wager OUT OF NOWHERE.

[@olhaaliogenerico]

@@aleg719 With Tommy Wiseau's face

[@MyRYNOrunsHot]

25:00 So I'm super late to the party but this is actually a part of the game that's actually kind of clever. That's a pomegranate, and Beatrice eating it's seeds is a reference to when in Grek mythology, Persephone ate pomegranate seeds and had to remain in the underworld. So they're pulling from greek mythology much like Dante did when he wrote the Divine Comedy.

[@Gunzerkingidiot]

Eventually he'll get to the 10th circle, Scrubbery

[@maureliuswolf]

I wish it had been a horror/puzzle game. I think it really could have been interesting if the different circles from the poem were represented in devious puzzles instead of shock value in a GoW clone. Also, Asura’s Wrath’s utter madness was more entertaining to me than this debacle of classic literature that they couldn’t even follow correctly.

[@Scrimdingulus2978]

"CRYPTOCURRENCY... such miserable souls languished in /biz/ in life" -voigil

[@Inerrant1]

Dante's Inferno should have been a disempowerment fantasy like Dark Souls, not an empowerment fantasy like God of War. Here you go ripping a warpath through every single layer of hell and every single boss you encounter. You thrust your big throbbing... scythe into figures like Cleopatra and King Minos and literally nothing can stop you. In my dumb fantasy remake version, you'd come out of every stage pretty much by the skin of your teeth. You don't beat the bosses, you just survived them long enough for them to bat you away into a pit or for Vergil to rescue your sorry ass so he can resume his tour guide gig. Like the real Dante's Inferno or the Harrowing of Hell (An idea that Jesus toured through Hell for 3 days before his resurrection to basically tell Satan to suck it and save the souls of those who were... wrongfully convicted?) where the goal is to basically survive hell and not be tempted or succumb to despair. In meta-game terms, failing to beat the game would be akin to the protagonist failing to complete their journey and being trapped in hell forever. Either you leave a save file at the tempting boobies like 12-year-old me did or you stop playing because it's too hard. Sorta like the implication that failing to complete the game in Dark Souls is to go hollow.

[@HellRider_]

Had this game came out a few years later, it absolutely would have been a Dark Souls clone.

[@cameronb7161]

2009-10: every action game's a God of War clone 2017-18: every action game is a Dark Souls clone

[@TheTygre]

Inferno Facts #4: The two headed spinning monsters are actually from the poem. Well, they weren’t spinning berserkers, but the general concept was there. One person was a miser and the other was a squanderer, and they were bound together in an eternal Odd Couple situation. Anger was represented as a marsh because it traps the soul in it, and the more one tries to fight it, the harder it is to escape. Phlegyas was a king from Greek mythology, and a son of Ares. He burned down the temple of Apollo after Apollo killed one of his daughters. It was actually Vergil who first showed Phlegyas in Hell when he described Phlegyas being tortured in Tartarus in the Aeneid. You could buy a mini-Phlegyas as a pet for your Xbox 360 avatar. Remember those? Matt is objectively wrong about Asura’s Wrath.

[@sargedakilla]

Matt your videos are always entertaining.😊 thank you for the content.

[@stenzel27]

Drunk Matt is very sassy.

[@Piratica99]

I'm so glad you had the courage to do this LP. Been having a hard time lately but this series always manages to cheer me up.

[@MattMcMuscles]

That's good to hear! Hope you have an easier week!

[@michaelcreech8957]

I like how the shadow effects for the intro make it look like you got a big crazy handlebar mustache

[@Gulyus]

The three seeds thing is a reference to the story of Persephone and Hades from Greek myth. Persephone was kidnapped by Hades to make her his bride. If she ate anything, she wouldn't be allowed to return to Olympus and would become his wife. Her mother, the aspect of the seasons, was so sad the world fell into eternal winter (which hadn't occurred before either). Zeus got Persephone back, but found out she had eaten some pomegranate seeds...so he talked to Hades and came up with a compromise - he could have her for 3 months out of the year, and Olympus the other 9. This is why we have winter.

[@jackjaw2209]

I feel like all of these types of games we got like this and the old God of War, characters that were made to be super badasses who kill anything is kind of like the western version of the time period when games like devil may cry were being made

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

Tarpeia was the only Shade I didnt't get when I played this cos I spent half an hour trying to make that jump and Matt just did it in 5 seconds drunk out of his goddamn mind. Truly he is blessed.

[@FIENDXIX]

I think Dante's Inferno should have been an rpg, let you build up a force of either redeemed or tormented souls of historical figures throughout hell and lead a revolt of souls against the demons and Satan

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

I don’t think it implies Satan was pulling his strings, so much as showing that his actions are about as evil as any Devil.

[@cadenglass1387]

Puzzles, you are a scared poet trying to get through hell.

[@ironomicon5260]

I remember being stuck on that room with the spinning trap for hours. That jump to reach the sinner was horrible.

[@brayachdragonbane7529]

so its not simple anger, its for those who's lives were ruled by violence and who did nothing of benefit to anyone, Dante's flashback highlights how violent he was getting, losing sight of the purpose of their mission, blinded by killing and bloodshed.

[@josefstylin7859]

Visceral got Wayne Barlow to do concept art right? They should've just made God's Demon the Game and let you play as Sargatanas. It would've been a hundred times more interesting to play through a unique interpretation of Hell as a demon whose sole motivation is "This shit sucks I want to go home" instead of being generic action man/a bastardized Dante Alighieri

[@Stormfin]

Don't get me wrong, Matt. This is great that you're doing the game. Wish it had more love.

[@sackroad349]

Matt what the heck are you drinking here? You went from 0 to wasted so fast!

[@aidlord23]

Ok that spinning enemy is the goofiest shit. Way to suck all the tension out of your hellscape.

[@dr.popping8560]

Putting all those enemies at the big boi's feet was actually a great way to get the player to stomp. Way too many recent games would just put a prompt telling you to stomp when you got there.

[@AlbinoAxolotl1993]

I feel like Dante's Inferno should've been a point and click adventure where you just play as the poet.

[@deconyus3412]

so much of the original poem is walking and talking to people and AVOIDING getting into conflicts through various guides and monsters of hell that i don't know how well you could translate dante's inferno into a game. but i think the only way is to not focus at all on the main story of dante's trip and instead have something that utilizes the setting of hell and it's 9 circles. maybe an undertale style "no one has to die" rpg thats similar to the punish/absolve mechanic of this game

[@PinoNica85]

I love Matt's incredulous "what?". Lol.

[@algi1]

I think Dante's Inferno should've been an adventure game.

[@theyellowlurker5201]

Does Matt know about the short film that the bioware animator put together on Dante's Inferno? Like...props to him, just cant imagine anyone being that much of a fan to devote like 4 years to getting that done.

[@Dumaiu]

20:21 Exactly right. The Alighieris were a political family and the _Inferno_ snipes a bunch of Dante's contemporaries, whom you now need footnotes to identify.

[@JustSortaOK]

I feel like this game would have been much better if it wasn't using the name "Dante's Inferno". If your character was just literally any other made up Templar man then I think this game wouldn't have rubbed me the wrong way like so

[@Speedball57]

So, some context, in the poem, the circle of Greed has groups of Hoarders and Wasters fighting each other in an endless, pointless tug of war, hence the spinning enemies. It’s a dumb stretch, but I see what they were doing.

[@misterdaleboomshears8619]

most def should've been a survival horror made by a company with chutzpah as opposed to visceral, but I still loved this game when I played it in high school. Still happy it exists.

[@ramengodzilla]

I dunno bout you but matt is more sober then usual Also woolie is too scared for this LP confirmed

[@qlipothian]

I think Graham McTavish is better in the Uncharted games and in Castlevania on Netflix....this however....is...weird.

[@MaddogSamurEye]

I wouldn't mind if they kept it as a action game, but with the reboot God of War out it would be neat to see something from that game in a "Like Dante's Inferno BUT" game. Imagine if you could manually aim the cross projectiles instead of blindly throwing them around like a loose garden hose. Keep the Hell setting, but give each Circle of Hell good amount of time to explore, give them more gross designs, and perhaps have it center around a man trying to ESCAPE Hell rather than enter.

[@HellRider_]

"This isn't as good as God of War 1" is a pretty damning statement considering how shit GoW1 was towards the end.

[@pip0027]

I think it should of been a horror puzzle/stealth game with impressive backdrops

[@JAKX091]

Vergil's starting to remind me of that one guy I know from school who's just the biggest Warhammer nerd.

[@ccsd13]

Asura's Wrath was dope for its story and style, but man I really wish it had gameplay to back it up.

[@NotTooWellKnown]

I can't imagine a full non-edited LP of this. Never played before but I'm getting DMC Vergil's Downfall vibes from the combat

[@Tronathon242]

I forgot that they ripped the whole pomegranate seeds from Greek mythology.

[@ActingRelic]

So picture this, the story of Dante's Inferno (ie the poem not this edge lord mess) but with the game play of an I have No Mouth and I must scream or tormentum style point and click with small puzzles and dialogic trees leading to morale choices.

[@Scrimdingulus2978]

I think DI should stick with the original poem and make it much more like Silent Hill in theme, characterization, and story. The core combat mechanics, I think, should stay the same.

[@dialamx1]

Ok, Giant monster game. Call it Titan's Rage, or something like that. Has elements of Godzilla games and Rampage games. You can choose giant characters like a giant Satan, Cthulhu, Cronus, Surtr, Uriel, Elementals, etc. Giant creatures from various mythologies. You can choose locations to go to from the various mythologies the characters come from, and march through causing as much destruction as possible. Locations like Earth, Asgard, Hell, Heaven, Olympus, R'lyeh, and even alien planets. You march around causing destruction and fighting whatever local resistance there is, and have occasional giant monster battles with other creatures. Multi-player can be co-op destruction, 1-on-1 combat, team battles, and free-for-all battles.

[@goldenlizard92]

Here's the thing about wondering why rhe denizens of hell aren't used to fire: hell fire wasn't invented until _Paradise_ _Lost_ , which was written 300 years after "The Divine Comedy". In fact, the lowest circle of hell is, ironically, frozen over in the original poem.

[@goldenlizard92]

Also rather funny is the fact that barely any of the modern concept of hell comes from Christianity itself, but rather from "The Divine Comedy" and _Paradise_ _Lost_

[@goldenlizard92]

Though actually, there is one circle in the original work that has a good amount of fire, but it isn't particularly significant.

[@Stormfin]

You can just smell the fumes coming out of this video.

[@Stormfin]

Jesus Christ Matt, is your blood-alcohol content growing as the video's going?

[@peterwhite6415]

i think Dantes Inferno should have been some sort of linear walking simulator with puzzles where vergil narrates stuff to you or something more in the vain of older games like space quest or kings quest... i can see it work as a god of war clone... if the character wasnt dante the poet or dante the bloody templar... Also, if this game was somehow succefull, let me remind me you theres 2 others thirds to it: - Purgatory where Dante climbs the Tower to redem himself - Paradisio/Paradise where Dante sees Angels, blinding lights, gos to each planet in solar system and gos to the center where God, Jesus and the holy spirit are... with Beatrice as a Guide AND somehow she sits in the weird flower where "Gods Favorites" sit and relax... i could be wrong, but alot of stuff in dantes book is odd (and extremly salty towards everybody that isnt a italian hero/philosepher/saint)

[@banenation]

Matt I'd kill for an open world style Barlowe's Inferno game

[@ChasoGod]

That scene with Beatrices transformation was a rip off from the story of 'Hades and Persephone'.

[@Mears72]

Cryptocurrency is the 9th circle of hell

[@thomas-stilinski8149]

I've been looking for a play through of this

[@Murdoc2568]

Anyone else get Merry Christmas-ed by a grumpy old guy in an ad with flash animations of bathroom figures?

[@SkyCapatanio]

I like how in the flashbacks Dante was just like an irredeemably scummy piece of shit who was constantly whining and did everything wrong, and in game he is like, the exact opposite all of a sudden for NO REASON

[@Sylvia-t1f]

The more I try to think of what Dante's Inferno should've been, the more I just think of Hellblade. Seriously, exchange Norse mythology for Christianity and swap whatshisface for Virgil and you've got it.

[@sarahl701]

that platformer-y stuff at the very top isn't half bad

[@tropicthunder131]

All of the condemned souls are from the poem.

[@ecto1a2003]

Drunk Matt is fun matt

[@Tronathon242]

In the movie, his father was voiced by Mark Hamill. It was a very...interesting choice.

[@alexcruz3043]

Asuras Wrath was a dope idea!

[@Walmbat]

Matt, if you care to know Japan's take on Boudica, I'd suggest searching Google Images for "Boudica Fate Grand Order"

[@carlosmanriquez5748]

the game started to gnaw at your mind, luckily it's just like 5 hours long

[@MrIronWar]

Here are the two/three genres this game could have taken. Point and click because there alot of questionable things in hell that needs to be fleshed out and experienced (pun not intended). Also seeing how crazy hell is visually could make wayne barlowes art alot of justice. Kinda like the game "I have no mouth and I must scream" or "The White Chamber" (Now that game is basically space Hell!) Survival horror while using JESUS as a gun. or a FPS horror game of hell sinces its EA and all and having all the nightmares in hell in first person would be some sick shit to see but it needs to be done right not like the failure of the hell game AGONY, a good concept but badly executed. The third one which I more akin to this should be its own game without the Dante's Inferno poem attached to it. It was already an action about a crusader going to hell to save his loved one but since EA/Vicereal were like NAH MAN THAT DANTE INFERNO POEM IS THE SHIT AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT EDGY AND ACTION LIKE GOD OF WAR!!!! Which understandably the public were very meh about it. Not doing anything new gameplay wise and sure as hell cashing in that action QTE money!

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

PUNISHED MAT A MAN ROBBED OF HIS VOICE AND MIND

[@gizmofrompizmo2177]

It really bugs me what they did to Beatrice. She was suppose to be an ideal that Dante moved towards not a damsel in distress/bride of hell.

[@Hal_142]

if they were to remake Dante's Inferno I'd want them to make each section bigger and more and focus less on being faithful. also more torturing.

[@JamesCPotter13]

25:00 So Beatrice went Full Persephone? Really? Just gonna mix your myths like that?

[@Zyvo2]

Dente's inferno would have been better as a Souls-Like vs a God-of-War-Like

[@coolboyyo654]

it's really fucked up how Beatrice went from a literal saint in the poem to Damsel In Distress for the game

[@spadetheartist7390]

I believe it's the room at 5:00 that matt so lovingly and rightfully so cut getting passed that I toiled in my own personal hell for weeks trying to get passed. I had to fight the fight in there so many times because the layout was just fucky to me. If I remember right you have to turn a spinning lever arpund to open the spike door, then jump down and pull the lever to the guillotine, jump onto it, then make it through the door before it shuts. That or pull the lever for tne guillotine first or something. Long story short: fuck that room. You have to do the fight over if the guillotine or spike door impales you even the slightest and watching dante fall from grace a whole 3 cm because the hitbox of his elbow clipped a boo boo spike made me rage quit for a while.

[@HellRider_]

You'd think Woolie would be all over a playthrough of this game with all its anti-christian fuel and everything.

[@insaincaldo]

I like that the decent in gluttony will have you pass the burning assholes of Taco Tuesday. Oh that soul who sold out her city is condemned for greed, guess she got of easy. Shouldn't that have been taken as a huge betrayal? Also I never got why greed and glutton are different. You can't really over do, if you haven't made sure you have more then you need.

[@insaincaldo]

​@@aleg719 Yah I wasn't saying you can't be a hording bastard without also indulging yourself, only that you would have to have the means to do so. That's why I would claim them to be connected. Well not so much nowadays.

[@timthechef9242]

iirc Dis was a full city city in the poem too

[@Beowulf8989]

25:00 The sixth circle of hell... NTR

[@BananasAndQuarters]

NEAT!!

[@redlanyard4927]

Awesome content Matt! I'm loving this series and your lit rants about dumb Dantean bullshit

[@mechakinggidora]

Matt you're great but I would have words with you over that Asura's Wrath comment.

[@shradke]

23:28 you must mean Saints Row: Gat out of Hell

[@sinistropteryx3113]

So I know Dante was super inconsistent about sins but seriously, why would Achilles be in heaven but Boudica In Hell? They basically did the same thing except Boudica had a better reason for it.

[@averymalone2164]

its a giant golden jewel encrusted cross thats why he has it in hell

[@algi1]

Why does the game give the option of absolve when you can auto-absolve?

[@ColdNorth0628]

Guessing you get more for absolving yourself while auto absolve gives you a average amount.

[@algi1]

@@ColdNorth0628 That makes sense.

[@ColdNorth0628]

Uh oh matts drunk also this would be a good game if it worked like deadspace kinda. Maybe more emphasis on survival in survival horror.

[@justin13594]

Matt what are you drinking?

[@woolfieMcP]

7:16 made me ragequit the game once and for all

[@jackjaw2209]

I would have done this lp with you Matt not like those other cowards

[@hellpopulationyou]

I liked the game as it was, but i wish the character was not dante. and dante was taking you though hell recounting vergil guidance from his trip to you while being judgmental of you as a contemporary in time

[@xsion88x]

You know i think this game really told a great story that before i never been interested in. Sadly i feel like it didnt benefit so well from the devil may cry gameplay and God of war (pre-reboot) If the same game cameout today with similar dark souls or the new god of war mechanics, and better imaginations of "cities" like you mentioned about how people ate and made weapons. this concept would be 10x better

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

Man dante got ntr'd by beelzebubs stand

[@spadetheartist7390]

Oh man Matt if you don't like Dante's father's design in game... let's just say that his mouth gets worse in the movie. Some sort of... laryngitis. FROM HELL!