1 Hour ADU House Build!

[@srbh41413]

@Matt Risinger - per some other comments, would be great to see a part 2 showing how the electrical & plumbing get added and how that costs out.

[@raymondpeters9186]

Plumbers and electricians charge a premium for Sips installs As an electrician I know I did and it's a pain in the butt

[@srbh41413]

@@raymondpeters9186 Is it possible to explain a bit about why that is?

[@deejayitalo]

Just build an installation layer?

[@N20Joe]

@@srbh41413 You have to fish in everything. It's not just open and accessible like stick framing so it's like double the labor hours. This build looks like they have some pre-fab electrical installed so that's cool but if you want to add anything later it's a big deal.

[@mikedandar1171]

@@raymondpeters9186My electricians charge the same as if they were stick framing. They said even though they fish more of the wire, there is less drilling through studs. There’s also other time-savers they’ve learned after doing so many SIP homes.

[@TheBgrugbymatt]

I built my own 3400sq ft sip house a year ago. Conventional framed floor and stepped heal trusses for insulation. I would say it's unnecessary to use sips in the floor because that gave us space to run plumbing. We did use sip panels in the vaulted living room because it gave us the best bang for the R value buck. Running wiring is a pain because of the way they cut the chase with a hot wire (leaves a slit on one side). The romex gets stuck a lot at the wall joints. Plumbing is impossible though. I kept all the water on the interior and ran the sink drains straight through the floor. I would totally do it again because now I have a very tight efficient house. I did hire the hvac out, and the tech said he couldn't believe how infrequent the heating cycles were. Anyway, I wrote a book by now, lol. Thanks, Matt, for all the great info over the years. I definitely used a bunch of your tips and tricks to make my home R-ighteous.

[@quagengineer1877]

Hey,what book, please?

[@houmanghasemian3580]

The i wrote a long comment on you tube and now looking for a publisher book​@quagengineer1877

[@copernicusvanstruselclit9508]

congratulations, curious how much it costed and how much did you hire out/act as general contractor? If you don;t mind me asking.

[@CompulsoryDemocracy]

Looking to do the same soon. What other unexpected hiccups did you encounter during the build?

[@Yehoshuasministries]

Beautiful homes n design, what's up with the Masonic black n white floor pattern?

[@garethgriffin7687]

Interesting reading the comments here; some great questions, comments and concerns. I am a carpentry contractor in East Hampton NY and I have put together about five SIP shell homes ( with Superior Wall foundations ) in the last four/five years. Electricians usually just send up each circuit from below in basement so it’s more of a vertical run instead of the horizontal runs. At ceilings we furr down to allow space for wiring to run wherever it needs. Almost all plumbing should go through interior stick framed walls as that is best practise to keep plumbing away from ext walls. Only cons I see would be if down the line you had a poorly flashed window/door or roof flashed area that would rot the exterior sheathing of panel- it would be harder to repair due to lack of nailers etc. Oh yeah and lastly I would frame a conventional floor system and not a SIP floor as moisture starts in a slab, crawl or basement and you do not want OSB to get affected by that as it will turn to mush ( same goes for ZIP system as that’s all OSB and I have seen that crumble to mush when affected by moisture etc. Just my two cents from an experienced head-hope this helps🤙

[@willhall7777]

Good points

[@ja1971chevelle]

I did the same thing when I worked for Insulspan. Pulte homes in the late 90's wanted 2, 2 story homes built in 2 days. Built the first floors on both in 2hrs each. They built the second floors. I came back the next day 4hrs for the second floor walls and roof.

[@ritste1654]

I saw in another video how they attached the drywall on the roof panels before they flew them in. This allowed the drywall to be attached while on the ground so it only had to be taped after being installed. Another great time saver. I imagine on a smaller house like this, you also do the side wall the same way.

[@hodaboy1]

Michigan here.. so happy to have been guided to your video by KZbin. I am thinking of building a small house community on twenty acres of land for people who can't afford the high cost of rent in the metro Detroit area and don't need the space of a whole house. I hope this company can ship to Michigan because it looks like a great fit for what I am thinking of.

[@Nphen]

I grew up near Royal Oak, and have lived in Grand Rapids, now near Lansing. I've thought about doing the same, perhaps somewhere between Detroit, Ann Arbor, and Lansing. The farmland near Hell is actually very picturesque. I feel like Michigan needs more chapters of Strong Towns, to advocate for new types of development. The channel "Project Kamp" in Portugal recently started their 4th season. Their reuse of materials is top-notch!

[@ihinds]

I've seen this done is Europe with larger homes taking a maximum of 7 days. Electric lines are routed through the walls. This is going to be my next build. So happy to see it being done in America.

[@CCB249]

OMG! P Allen Smith! Wow! I am a Master Gardener in Maryland and have been watching him for years! How cool is this entire episode!

[@trentclark77]

I especially love the foundation, 15 minutes and it was already set squared and the floor was down. THAT’S BOSS! Love to see the first 15 mins btw;)

[@daledickey8400]

So much potential, love the ease of build with supplies and tools. Any issues with off gassing?

[@p.r.9219]

Always enjoyed P Allen Smith's shows. Glad he's still doing good things. I'm also a fan of yours Matt.

[@ytSuns26]

I built sips in 2010 love it . Had big arguments with ac contractors . At 1700 sq feet they wanted 3.5 tons , I wanted 1 ton ended up at 1.5 ton . The house issuper comfortable every the same temp.

[@StardustMonkey]

Dude why does everyone like OSB Sips? Steel sips are R50, non flammable, pest proof, they can easily span large distances and accommodate huge windows, cantilevers and all kinds of things that wood has to be specially engineered to do expensively… on our build we are getting ready to do now the steel sips ended up being cheaper than wood because of the huge openings and cantilevers we wanted on a custom modern house. Steel sips did it easier and cheaper. That made a huge difference for us in our fire lot rebuild in California. Light gauge steel is not so expensive anymore.

[@raymondpeters9186]

Next question If you use Sips for the floor how do you seal the bottom of the panel to protect it from water?

[@FlazooMedia]

I grew up in central Arkansas watching PAS on TV every week. Great to see he's continued to grow!

[@tedtimmis8135]

I’m very impressed!

[@ssoffshore5111]

I can't believe there was zero mention on how electrical & plumbing get added to a sealed wall, or how the bottom is protected from moisture! Neat concept, but missing the details on the elephants in the room!

[@alankusov6079]

For electrical it would be neat to have a race at the base that can be covered by a baseboard. Unfortunately their sill plate detail won’t allow for it.

[@AmandaComeauCreates]

Plumbing and electrical is probably already taken care of by chases manufacturers into the panels or taken care of by adding furring between wall and drywall finishes

[@N20Joe]

@@alankusov6079 That would be and excellent workaround. Even better would be a small boxed out top piece so you don't lose any floor space.

[@jwristen24]

​@N20Joe suppose you could run interior framing with mini spilts. Would losr 8" of interior space but could also insulate that space too.

[@TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet]

​@@AmandaComeauCreatesReading your comments, must be a relative or complete more•on.

[@adubbelde1]

a friend of mine is a builder in South Dakota that builds exclusively with Extreme Panel. He's very meticulous with his builds.

[@codacoda565]

Could you give me the name of your friend? That builds the sip houses

[@adubbelde1]

@@codacoda565 I'll ask him if he wants me to. But you could also check with Extreme panel and ask for builders in the Black Hills. He's probably the only one.

[@mylegalassistants]

I would love to see a part 2 showing the house completely finished and move in ready ❤️

[@QuantumImperfections]

There is no reason in our day-and-age that we would be unable to build super-efficient (and robust) houses in a couple of days. There will always be a market for "quick, cheap, effective and reliable shelter".

[@anonymous..-]

You just described mobile homes.

[@hebdschnure]

Wouldnt call that robust

[@dirtbike662]

Laws are written so that houses don't look the same. As well as people seem to "like the look of it" This leads to cut up roof lines and weird ass layouts. That involves tons of math and dumb ass trim details. All costs money, labor, and wasted materials. And if the details arent maintained properly it gets costly to repair.

[@Michael-Youtube98]

@@dirtbike662 Usually see giant HOA communities with "similar" houses but yeah, most don't like the look of the same house in all 4 directions. Unfortunately these giant communities are mass produced and quality is definitely sacrificed for production speed

[@RussellD11]

Greed sill makes the house 3x the cost for homeless, for example

[@lennyross2813]

Greek Revival!! Gettting New Orleans vibes!!

[@adubbelde1]

I've met Perry and I've toured the factory. My cousin is from Cottonwood and he tells me he helped fabricate some of their initial manufacturing equipment.

[@FredMcIntyre]

Really cool Matt, would love see these when they're done 😃👍🏼👊🏼

[@davwht9]

Mass factory production of these house panels and hundreds of these could go up a day!!

[@brians9072]

Super good video. Coolest thing I've ever seen. House up in a half a day and ready for finishing.

[@markpalmer5311]

Amazing. And it’s PA! He’s a great guy. My wife and I spent a day with him (and a hundred other fans!) at MMF for our 30th anniversary. Great host, as you would expect.

[@arresthillary9502]

seems like a real fruitloop

[@HabitualButtonPusher]

This is really neat. I would require some sturdy wire mesh or aluminum panels on the floor panel to ensure the critters stay out. I’ve seen rats and mice do some heinous damage to would and foam.

[@wilty5]

Is that daylight that I see inside the ADU at the top left corner? If so, what is the remedy?

[@Nurse_Lucy]

I fan-girled so hard. I love P. Allen Smith! Made me fall in love with gardening with perennials

[@VanillaAttila]

Hows the off gassing?

[@mikedandar1171]

extremepanel.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Tech-Bull-16c-panels-off-gasing.pdf

[@TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet]

Toxic

[@LifeLongLearner-om8jx]

It’s clear from the comments that no one listened while watching the video, around the 4:00 minute mark he mentions the “electrical chase.” You can bet that the engineers at a company like this have already pre-designed various chases for plumbing and electrical systems to be integrated after the core structure is put up. Matt probably wants to put up a second video with the rest of this build out. Extra content for KZbin.

[@JimDeVerna-yf2zy]

Matt .. how would Joe Lstiburek detail the outside walls and roof. Would he add furring strips for the roof and siding. Where is the WRB? The floor system is very interesting.

[@MichaelDinsmore]

Looks really cool - would love something like this for a house I’d like to build in Maine. Really curious on how the electrical and plumbing gets handled though!

[@VillelaHN]

Beautiful houses.

[@mortcs]

How is the moisture being handled in these sip structures?

[@AmandaComeauCreates]

Vapour open water barrier on the outside so the osb can dry to the outside. Blue seal has a peel in stick membrane but there's others. Gotta be careful with rainscreen and siding but totally doable. Inside is much the same, vapour open barrier and careful install of furring strips and drywall/panelling

[@davideakin7434]

​@@AmandaComeauCreatesAlso needs advanced interior air management (IAQ, humidity).

[@Oldguard_8]

Extreme panel - cost more for the material but save soo much on labor, what is your cost per sq/ft? Can you use simple plans to make a large, affordable house?

[@charleyandsarah]

I’d like to see your math please on how your sip is comparable to a 2x10 wall

[@RokDAWG1]

I really am impressed with this concept and the builds! I'm definitely going to save the website and look at the possibility of going with one of their larger homes to be built for me. Just so awesome!

[@robertduffy5805]

I wonder when one of these sip companies will partner with zip sheathing for a better exterior product that eliminates the need to weatherproof it. Or apply a similar product to the exterior of the sip panels.

[@paulbaker3144]

Structural integrated panels are great concept. I first heard of them about 15 years ago. Not sure when the first SIP house was built. Im guessing about 20-25 years but not sure. I’m wondering if any of them are having a issue with the adhesive?? What about in 50 years? So many YT videos show cool stuff that has not stood the test of time and sell it like it’s the best thing since sliced bread. I might be more interested in foamcrete with OSB glued AND screwed to it. My 2 cents worth.

[@GrowinAlaska]

The isp walls are great. The isp floors are susceptible to water damage, and then your screwed. Better to use a 2 by floor assembly with a foam themal break.

[@jcsabolt2]

What’s the fire rating, is the foam flammable? What happens if you get a water leak…hole in roof or burst pipe? How do you repair it?

[@joshwwarren]

Giving me SIPs ptsd from my home build. Our builder was like "oh yeah 2 weeks" for our 1700 sqft, had the high lift, he way overpromised for his level of experience and only having a couple guys. Started right AFTER Christmas after delays related to his other work (moving a skylift costs $$) and guess what he says they can't let that butyl caulk freeze for between the SIPs, wound up being a few months. SIPs are a neat idea, they do constrain you for modifications after build, but ask lots of questions and be more discerning about the builder.

[@ebb2421]

wonder what the VOC's are for chemical sensitivities

[@pcatful]

I know SIPs seem strange to some people and I understand the questions, but my parents had a SIPs cottage built almost 20 years ago and it has been great and functions and looks like any other house, except it was well insulated and tight. It’s been renovated nicely in the meantime, but only in the interior, no additions. Our family gathered and helped with setup-just one guy and us to put up the walls, and then he had the crane and crew do the roof panels

[@danalarson3978]

They need to team up with huber and make ZipSips.

[@Tealeafsong]

Brillant! Love it :)

[@israelcontreras5332]

Interesting… How do they ensure the panels dont delaminate and moisture gets between the insulation and the shell? I love what sip panels bring. But im worried about chemicals and flame retardaents in my future new home build.

[@AnthonyFloresCPA]

I wonder if they could roll on a WRB all around the house like a basic shower with red guard and maybe add zip tape at the seams.

[@tedpereboom6983]

Prosoco cat 5 is what I would do on the walls.

[@JTDesign1]

I love the no drywall aspect that SIPS have which means no mold and few allergies.

[@cxsey8587]

Awesome video Matt, been looking at doing something just like this!

[@1chourse]

SIPs are great but not these specific ones. There needs to be some structure in the walls to transfer loads. Also the outer shell panels look like they’re just waiting to get wet and disintegrate. There are much better quality SIPs available.

[@JCII100]

Like? Used MGO SIP?

[@magictrading8903]

Steel sips - stronger, lighter, cheaper overall, just all around better but maybe that’s why they don’t need to pay Matt to be on his channel.

[@JCII100]

@@magictrading8903 from where?

[@PBoss0]

WHY WAS THE ROOFING MATERIAL NOT INSTALLED ON THE GROUND?

[@benc1927]

How do you get the electrical and plumbing in the walls...

[@enwinn]

There are wire chases (holes) bored at specific spacing for pulling wires. You do not put plumbing inside SIPs. Typically you'll run plumbing inside an interior wall.

[@modsquad8u]

I am really interested in these and got a quote for the Astro and Vega last October and all those great Milwaukee tools are not included unless they have changed it, they were at an additional cost under the optional line items. I still really want to build a SIPs home, but I don't want a big mortgage so I'm trying to build in phases and pay cash or use short term signature loans from my credit union. I wish construction loans were more open to allowing savvy DIY'ers to do some of the work instead of having to use all contractors. I guess I need to look more into this, maybe I can get it done to a very basic 'leviable' standard with the bare basics, then do the additional work after the construction loan converts to a mortgage.

[@geistknife]

Guys like Matt and Allen make me feel like I need to get to work.

[@nomadicoach]

Nice to see more mature van lifers sharing the adventure & doing it solo (like myself) ... I've just found your channel... Although I'm doing the conversion on a 12.5 Mtr bus - I do appreciate the agility & flexibility of a van. Really is an individual choice, yet the independence & variety of experiences is priceless. Keep making videos, they'll only get better.

[@kashmoni5094]

Could I transport this whole project on a gooseneck?

[@madjackgamingandfitness498]

That 1 inch gap with light coming through.

[@williamjensen7042]

my favorite build yet!

[@GomerPilepfc]

I would put some of that liquid zip system water barrier plastic paint on the outside of all that wood.

[@wolfpacva]

very nice houses

[@raymondpeters9186]

Not

[@dontrend5956]

It's a glorified shed.

[@MrBaconis]

Could you tell me how great this product you are being paid to promote is? I really value your objective and informed opinion on building techniques.

[@kompanyx]

It's great to see this SIP project. I think SIP construction has been ignored for far too long. I believe the use of SIPs is really the answer to weather-tight and energy-efficient construction provided that you install the proper ventilation such as an ERV/HRV. I would use SIPs to build my dream home. However, I would install an interior furred wall for electrical and plumbing. I know that the chases can be done in the factory, but I'd rather not compromise the R-value of the panel. Also, I would apply a peel-and-stick WRB or roll on some Proseco on the exterior. I think that if the price of the panels can remain approachable, SIPs can definitely catch on. It shouldn't be so hard and expensive to build quickly and efficiently in the year 2024. When I see that we can build rockets to go to the moon or telescopes that can see the beginnings of the universe and we still can't build a house quickly and efficiently...well...it just makes me scratch my head. Thanks for this video. Like others commenting, I wouldn't mind seeing how plumbing and electrical are handled.

[@fungt89]

Still waiting for the metal sips episode of the build show!

[@OperationDarkside]

Are you sure, there aren't quite a lot of framers that could manage to frame something like this in a day?

[@burnte]

I was looking into this literally yesterday!

[@neelnelson4484]

Why do you think it was shown to you!? Lolol

[@JamesBlack.177]

Needs a follow up on utilities

[@tranquilitybase6417]

I’ve been looking at SiPs for my tiny home cabin up in North Idaho. What do they weigh if I decide to stack it on a deck or sono-tube foundation?

[@1234GOPRO]

This is how we build Hollywood sets.

[@raymondpeters9186]

Better hope your house never floods that would be bad OSB and water don't mix

[@pcatful]

True of any house sheathed in OSB, and they are all over the place.If you think plywood is better, I bet they could make one with plywood instead.

[@N20Joe]

@@pcatful Yeah except in this case the OSB is your structural support

[@raymondpeters9186]

​@@pcatfulI don't build with wood For building wood is no good Three little pigs

[@pandagold4722]

How about dont build in a flood zone? Wake up america. Stop building in flood zones. No wood framed construction can withstand a flood.

[@stevenkeeffe]

10:45 Is it my imagination or is that structure jiggling like a jello mold?

[@NelsonCummings]

I agree. Well this one as is is going for 22, 700 guess we could always prices May fluctuate And I guess contractors aren't here in Central Florida. But anyway, looks like a great product $22,700 so of course you got the plumbing and the electrical and r value. Oh yeah don't forget the AC

[@staudtj1]

When I watched PBS years back Allen Smith was always worth a look-at. The Man has a real sense of style and it's amazing what He has done at Moss Mountain Farm in very few years. Very much like his new endeavor.

[@williamdarst8699]

How well do they hold up in a Toronto

[@primalpassion]

How did you run electrical wire through exterior walls?

[@thomasspangler5840]

Could you do a barn or garage with this?

[@daledickey8400]

Absolutely, there are commercial applications available as well. SIP has been around for years in a variety of materials including metal.

[@bradmason8334]

Matt, where are the prefab ADU Sip homes being offered? Any link?

[@EqualKinks]

no studs? how does anchoring work in the home?

[@rexmundi8154]

I saw one of these go up a few years ago and they had it dried in in a day. 2 guys.

[@tedpereboom6983]

How are they handling condensation at the ridge? I did not see any gap and have not seen any other photos on there site to suggest they have any management for the ridge.

[@buildshow]

The key is good air sealing inside and out. Air flow through the ridge will rot it out

[@TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet]

How to suffocate the home and occupants, talk about toxic off gasing with nowhere to go.

[@onjofilms]

How about critters tunneling through that foam? We got architectural foam trim on our commercial tilt-up and the birds just found out they can tunnel into them and they are making it look like swiss cheese.

[@daledickey8400]

Should not be an issue, none of the foam is exposed, it's covered with OSB or trim.

[@mikedandar1171]

I use their panels…. They use a special OSB that’s treated to repel critters and insects.

[@franks4973]

Really want to understand how electric and plumbing is done with this system.

[@johnjason7204]

How is the electrical added to the walls...lights, switches, cable tv...

[@gitim4God]

Do they offer an option with zip sheathing?

[@johntherat339]

A dried in shell in a day is pretty impressive and the price is fair. I wonder if they can use ZIP panels as the outer layer?

[@ssoffshore5111]

I don't see why you couldn't!

[@raymondpeters9186]

If it rains on the house for a week that would be bad OSB and water don't mix

[@rezatashakori9906]

its only the framing? we could frame a house in two days too

[@QuadTAZ]

Insulation and blocking too. Doubt you could frame a house in two days with two people so I'm guessing there's some cost savings in labor there.

[@matthiasbowie3844]

As a framer. Yes there are people that could frame it in a day.

[@Mystprism]

Frame, insulate, and sheath the floor, walls, and roof?

[@1mandrywallarmytv144]

@@Mystprism those panels are very very flammable. Watch a 4 story building built with these go up in smoke in minutes. That styro foam is like gasoline!

[@strme1]

Interesting know how health can be affected with such a technology.

[@jamesray9009]

I'm curious what as to what wall and roof sections pricing like the easier the cheaper per square foot.. ?

[@tommycollier9172]

Okay matt You did not build a house in 1 day You assembled a house in 1 day The house was built in a factory, I'm very impressed

[@buildshow]

True. The preassembly in the factory is what makes it so quick in the field. I think the thing I like about this particular manufacture is their excellent preplanning so that things in the field go extremely well.

[@gluuuuue]

Anyone know if these meet CA code for earthquake safety?

[@mikedandar1171]

Yes, they do. From their ICC-ES Evaluation Report ESR-4524: 4.1.8.1 Seismic Design Categories A, B and C: The shear wall configurations in Table 10 were monotonically tested to determine performance. These shearwalls are limited to structures in Seismic Design Categories A, B and C. 4.1.8.2 Seismic Design Categories A through F: The shear wall configurations in Table 11 were tested cyclically in shear with a combined vertical load. These shearwalls may be used in structures in Seismic Design Categories A through F.

[@Techdeck758]

Would this hold up in a hurricane zone? Think Florida, Caribbean

[@danbrown5673]

Wind rating?

[@TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet]

1 mph

[@jonblair5470]

Doesn’t look like the plywood was cut to put in electrical. Are they just stabbing a forcefully pushing through the foam with fish rods??

[@raymondpeters9186]

The walls on my personal house are 24" thick

[@MoonbeamAcres]

I would love one of those! But would need someone to put it together for me. Then I could take it from there.

[@Bigrignohio]

Anyone have recent pricing (per ft2) for PUR or similar OSB-faces SIP panels?

[@1mandrywallarmytv144]

I watched a building made with the same technology as these panels and a small fire started and the Whole 4 story building was toasted in less than 10 mins. Building had no chance.

[@jwristen24]

I would run vapor barrier, then rockwool with furring strips on exterior