The Sun Eater: Disquiet Gods (spoiler free review) by Christopher Ruocchio

[@SunEaterBooks]

Hey man! Meant to comment last night! I am so glad you liked DG so much. It really is an honor.

[@storky1456]

I understand Matt, none of us are ready for this series to be over. Grief is deep water.

[@B.LEE.DbrianleedurfeeREVIEWS]

I need to get my review up for this book soon. Maybe next week. Imma bout 200 pages in.

[@MattsFantasyBookReviews]

Can't wait to watch it!

[@noteuser15]

Not to sound like a hipster, but I loved Sun Eater way earlier than everyone else, and it is so cool to see so many people love it as much as I did. It’s truly my favorite series of all time. I am one of the ones who says Demon in white is the best book in the series though. But DG is still one of the best books I’ve ever read too.

[@rapha_spi]

Suneater is an amazing series, I had the same feeling that every entry was better than the previous

[@misternegative4918]

Christopher Ruocchio has said he doesn’t plan to ever leave the universe

[@abdullahisayuti6698]

Couldn't wait for this review since you said it was easily the best Sun Eater book in the last talking story Livestream with Christopher Ruocchio. It's my favorite Sun Eater book yet too so that was great to hear from you.

[@TWbenIN]

For me it’s absolute consistency of this series!

[@Kaladin0622]

Ruocchio has confirmed that Sun eater won’t end with hadrians story ;)

[@ahill6858]

We need a prequel series of Kharn Sagara! There is sooooooo much story of this guy!!!

[@Lycan3303]

Finished Bound and Broken... Started The First Law ... thinking of reading Sun Eater next 😂

[@JoeRoverBooks]

The series sounds interesting. Never heard of it until now. I know what you mean about a series ending especially when you’ve been with it for years. One series was like 10 years long and I felt kind of empty or like “now what do I do” after it ended.

[@MrSumnerLearningTube]

Haven’t read book 6 yet but read the rest including novellas, and howling dark is my favorite. Can’t wait to read this one.

[@EruIluuvatar]

Currently right in the middle of book 3, that's one of the rare series where I'm quite convinced I could jump straight to book 4 when I'm done, rather than continuing any other ongoing series!

[@DimitrovStefanLachkov]

Thank you for pointing out the importance of the novelas.

[@Shelf-Esteem]

Hard agree with your review Matt! It’s one of the best books of all time, and certainly the best in Suneater. Cant believe Ruocchio has done it again!!

[@michaelfenixmade8958]

You sold me… you got me on First Law, now I’m taking the leap into this series. 👍

[@MalignantCactus]

I never thought I'd find a battle sequence that would come close to the Siege of Capustan in Memories of Ice. The Battle of Sabratha came close. So close I don't know if I'll ever find a battle that will unseat it as my second favorite battle sequence. It's the highlight of a truly perfect book.

[@SplinteredLight_]

I'm pleasantly surprised you loved this book as much as you did, I didn't know how the very obvious religious themes would hit you. I'm a huge fan of the series and I've loved all the books (besides the 1st one) so much. Glad you enjoyed it so much!

[@callum7081]

It’s refreshing for me to hear religious themes in fantasy so much modern sci-fi and fantasy is just a generic agnostic worldview which gets old. Also lord of the rings is nostalgic for a lot of readers so a hopeful worldview is always welcome.

[@Chance.Dillon]

I am at a point where I want to read disquiet gods-but I don’t want to have no more sun eater to read since I’m caught up in his anthologies until the final book

[@YashPatel-ez4um]

Hey Matt I know you have recency bias but I'm very curious to hear what your ranking of the main novels are? Mine is DG, DiW, HD, KoD, EoS, AoM. Also anyone else who see's this comment please feel free to rank them. I'm very curious how others would rank them.

[@scottv5587]

For me: 5 star reads-HD, KoD, DG 4.5 star reads- DiW 4 star reads- EoS, AoM I’m not sure how I’d rank each tier because on any given day it can change

[@eternal_napalm6442]

I have an autographed copy of this book from what will be a rare print.

[@gstokker]

I’ve read this and remember loving it but my brain won’t remember anything past the halfway mark… a good excuse to read it again

[@juliangudsell7956]

I've been so waiting for this review as for me too this was the greatest Sun Eater book so far. It's astonishing to me that, as a fantasy fan, this series is now my GOAT (still to read Malazan tho!). It will be with me always and i await Shadows Upon Time with excitement and sadness.

[@assassin415]

finally! yea im in awe of this series and the author and its crazy cuz its so good reading it traditionally but it is also masterful on audio as well. so so good. Its my number one series of all time currently but i suspect malazan will leap frog it once im finished with that cuz it is neck and neck

[@akiyrjana6558]

Thanks for a good video. I have been reading the series on a tour bus in Finland, and just started Disquiet Gods, which seems promising enough. I have loved the universe and the characters. Only thing a bit bugging through all the series has been the endless, propaply inevitable loan of Dune and Book of the new sun. I know Ruocchio has been using them to raise a new glory in a form of a palimpsest of history's greatest space operas, but at times the Wolfe thing, the recreation of very passages and sections of his books is a bit jarring nod of a fan fiction stuff. Like the palatine elders in the prison of Vorgossos (aka the Antechamber from Wolfe) and the caves and corridors of Perfugium (aka the caves and corridors of the Long Sun).

[@akellerhouse83]

It's gonna take me a while to catch up to this book. I'm reading this series in order, including the short stories and novellas. I just finished Queen Amid Ashes, which happens between books 2 and 3. I'm loving the series, though. It's amazing so far.

[@facundoorzabal8021]

For me, the first was 3.5 stars, the second 4.5 stars, ever since book 3, they are all 5 star for me, and it has become a top 5 series of all time for me. Depending how good the last book is, it can challenge the 1 spot for sure. Amazing story, larger than life is the best possible way. I went from disliking the main character in the first book to becoming my favorite character ever... despite the fact that I still not like him completely at a personal level, but I love him as a main character, as weird as that sounds.

[@YouWinILose]

Your excitement will definitely get me back to Suneater! Im certainly willing to give book 3 a shot.

[@abdullahisayuti6698]

Yeah the Chapter you're talking about is chapter 40: The Judicator. Christopher said it took him more than 2 months to write that chapter alone and was the most difficult task in writing he's undertaken so far. Like it took him longer than it took for him to write Dregs of the empire which is the longest novella yet and you can definitely see why that was the case. That chapter was profoundly written regardless of how some would take the direction it steers the series in.

[@Aaron46L]

One of the single best chapters of any book that I have ever read!

[@maucho88]

Dude! Once I finish The Wandering Inn, which I started because of YOUR reviews, now after this I’ll have to dive into the Sun Eater saga too?! What are you doing to me Matt?!

[@joedoe7572]

How exactly do you finish The Wandering Inn?

[@maucho88]

@@joedoe7572 there are 15 books out there (yet), im in book 8. Once I reach the 15 there will not be more books?

[@scottv5587]

Book 6 makes both Dregs of Empire and The Lesser Devil required reading. Both of those novellas have big payoffs in this book

[@helgestrm9670]

Love how you talk about the book! Mirror my thoughts exactly.

[@erickoenig9768]

I've caught up with this series and my enjoyment of the series has increased over time. I think this might be my favorite of the books. However, I'd be lying if I said that Ruocchio's love of the Book of the New Sun didn't hamper my enjoyment of the series; most of the weirdest plot points aren't exactly lifted direct from it, but he certainly stretches the definition of strongly inspired by. THAT chapter was just a less weird version of the weirdest part of Urth of the New Sun. I much prefer when I don't notice all the overt influences from other books. Which, fortunately for this volume - and volumes 4 and 5 - I mostly didn't have to contend with. But yeah, the Wolfe Influence is overpowering here, as often to the series detriment as its benefit. Especially since Wolfe tends to be the opposite of Ruocchio on the "explain things to the audience" scale. I highly recommend you revisit Book of the New Sun - perhaps with a reading guide - so that you can open up the treasures within and appreciate Ruocchio's inspiration, and find one of the greatest works of Sci-Fantasy ever written on your own terms.

[@MaxFidler]

For me its: 1) Demon in White 2)Kingdoms of Death 3) Disquiet Gods 4)Howling Dark 5) Ashes of Man 6) Empire of Silence. The caveats are numbers 2 and 3 are swappable.

[@EnglishMooseBoy]

Ok sweet moving it to front of my tbr, cheers for the review

[@Vinteractive]

Fave sci fi series of all time! (And second fave fiction series of all time)

[@michaeldobbins9962]

Dandelion Dynasty fell to 4th for you??? Super surprised

[@joedoe7572]

2:45 Thank you for keeping it spoiler free!

[@abdullahisayuti6698]

Yeah he plans to write a lot of other stories in this universe even before he ever does any fantasy series so don't worry lol.

[@quintonbrown1996]

I hope he writes an epic fantasy series next!

[@Belemrys]

Read The Barrow King…it will excite you for the “fantasy” series. Adaman is better than Hadrian! Also Christopher is planning to do other series in Sun Eater.

[@abdullahisayuti6698]

Better than Hadrian off just one short story is crazy to hear but lemme go read and see for myself haha

[@Belemrys]

@@abdullahisayuti6698 much more interesting and deep…to be fair the story feels like it comes much later in life…but you can feel the depth!

[@abdullahisayuti6698]

@@Belemrys Yeah I do get that but saying he's already better since he seems more interesting is what I don't get cuz there's tons of protagonists I find more interesting than Hadrian but Hadrian's arc is just so rich and layered so far that I've got him so high above most is all.

[@Belemrys]

@@abdullahisayuti6698 read the story, you will see what I mean

[@abdullahisayuti6698]

@@Belemrys yeah I will and get back to you fs

[@Valkrill]

Always forward.

[@MrJosh066717]

Is sun eater better than red rising?

[@MackTheDogg]

By a million

[@Marc9.]

For me is better than de first half of red rising but worse than the second half of red rising

[@MrJosh066717]

@@Marc9. so you like iron gold, dark age, and lightbringer more than the first 3 books in red rising? Cause I haven’t read the last 3 . I just liked how morning star ended

[@Marc9.]

@@MrJosh066717it gets really dark in the second half, and I understand that that's not for everyone, but the quality is so much higher.

[@javil1648]

Both are good, read both!

[@DasCracker]

My bug with Sun Eater and probably why I prefer the slower books, despite these being tomes, are the abundance of fight scenes. My gosh it was nearly formulaic of course Hadrian and co are gonna be sent in fugue to investigate, it will go wrong, there will be a fight, Hadrian survives. His decisions change and he has changed, but my goodness the 100s of pages of fight scenes jsut isn't my style especially when they don't matter. It's only after the ashes have settled when the book becomes interesting again for me. Perhaps other s feel the same? Edit: To explain the ambiguity, fight scenes and the consequences do matter. It's when there has been a fight sequence i.e. hadrian in KoD I think lands on planet to discover the virus. Did we need the virus and all that to be discovered that way? no other possible way other than yet another failed investigation? Ashes of man is another one where before Hardian meets up with Alex to head to perfugium there is a fight scene that I don't think added anything to the story. HD, the painted man thing to open it up. DiW I don't care if there was some useless in there that was such an amazing book. DG gosh it's hard to find examples, but I guess the opening one after Jadd, but that opener resonated through to the end of DG.

[@sasapejcin3568]

Battle/fight scenes in fantasy books are my least favorite thing in that type of books! It's just boring to me!

[@DasCracker]

@@sasapejcin3568 yeah ain’t it? in Sun Eater it has a great benefit of giving the size of the things that are involved and really cool to see that form a world building stand point. it’s just so often that every planet is an investigation gone wrong leading to an escape. for me and you as well it just gets out of hand sometimes. ha! nothing about the author doing it wrong just sooooo much and i didn’t notice many differences in the escapes either form a character development stand point. as in Hadrian kinda takes command or is brutish when not.

[@Mightyjordy]

I didn’t like Disquiet Gods as much but I didn’t read Dreggs of the Empire so maybe that will help. I think my biggest disappointment was the lack of the new character (won’t spoil her name) doing anything meaningful. I was literally tearing up when she was introduced I was so excited for where she was going and nothing really happened with her at all. I do think more will happen in the next book though so I’m still very excited. Book 5 was my favorite also because of all that time we got to heal and recover from the repeated nut sack punch that was book 4

[@TheMattyNation]

“He’s our pilot.”

[@T-Flow79]

I was planning on beginning Malazan in 2025, but with all the hype and praise for Sun Eater, I'm starting to second guess my decision. Please help me make up my mind? Which epic series do I start first???

[@MattsFantasyBookReviews]

Both are amazing! If you aren't used to more dense reads, you might want to start with Sun Eater. If you are used to it, then go for Malazan.

[@arabellawillow]

The hype train is real 🌸

[@cappy2282]

I need to check this series out??

[@praetorxyn]

Yes

[@cappy2282]

@@praetorxyn ....but I'm illiterate? Is this going to be a problem

[@praetorxyn]

@@cappy2282 You can do the audio books if you want. Samuel Roukin is a GOAT narrator.

[@RhinoViper]

I was a little disappointed with this one personally. ****SPOILERS***** It wasn't bad but meh, it's good and probably better just because the series as a whole is awesome...but it just feels samey. I felt like Hadrians daughter could have been something really interesting and fun to see but she seemed kind of like an afterthought here. I also didn't really like how all of a sudden the Cielcin are now seeing Hadrian as a leader...meh, I just didn't buy that plot line very much.

[@RhinoViper]

I should probably grab the novellas and short stories, i've been meaning too but i just never did.

[@BooksWithBenghisKahn]

Let’s. Freakin. Go. 💪💪💪💪

[@praetorxyn]

Finally

[@Marc9.]

I liked it, but for me was the weakest of the series. I was really disappointed with the side characters, there was too much fantasy and had a few problems with the pace, specially in the first part. Also, the end felt like I was missing a few chapters

[@shadowoflugia]

I dunno why I haven’t started this series yet 😂

[@cavendar24]

Just started the first book. So far it feels like a Dune ripoff, but I'm hopeful that it will soon take its own direction.

[@kungen250]

Let's gooooooo

[@wretchedegg9042]

first

[@commandercaleb94]

Least favorite of the entire series, hated the entire first 25% but got better after that.