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[@MattVidPro]

GUIDE STARTS AT 7:35 What do you guys think? do you like outpainting? Is midjourney better then DALL E now? and what do you think about AI winning an art contest? Love to hear your thoughts!

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

Not sure why that "space opera" image won anything. I checked it out and wasn't seriously moved by it. Granted, it was nice to look at, but I didn't think it was nice enough to win first prize at a competition.

[@NicVandEmZ]

What cool it’s great to extend a normal photo of a house

[@marasmusine]

Matt, how many credits did your finished example use up? Thanks.

[@DemonBiker84]

Outpainting is a great feature, but consumes to many credits.. At the moment, I prefer the credit logic of midjourney that with standard plan offer unlimited image generations per month. At the moment I prefer also midjourney outputs.. More creative and aesthetic

[@loveisqi.]

I like the little bits of corn on the floor in the “dojo” side, like they were shed in corn battle 🤓

[@Dimensional_AI]

I really love the result you able to get when combining the images! Though with the current price I don't think it's worth expanding an image with this new feature, but if you have two images that need to be combined I think it's actually priced pretty good. The best thing about this is that other ai tools will likely incorpoate this in the future.

[@ffgamingyt4219]

I don't know why, but why does OpenAI still refuse to release Dall E 2 for public testing, like that should've happened weeks or months ago, that in itself lowered the hype and lowered the traffic by a lot.

[@iamYork_]

I have had beta access for a bit and once it went pay per button click the creative workflow ended... I heard they cant go 100% public yet due safety features/censors not being ready yet.. But almost anyone that applies for beta gets access within a week from what i have seen from people

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@iamYork_ Its not pay PER button click. Or do you mean this new feature here?

[@lucasklein448]

@@iamYork_ I agree with you. The sense of losing credits every generation demotivates me lol

[@ffgamingyt4219]

@@iamYork_ Alright, but I still don't get why they changed the system into a credit one, it just doesn't make sense and makes the company lose money on all aspects, instead of credits, they could've atleast slightly changed the model, and made the best one paid.

[@marasmusine]

Their server must often be at capacity, because I frequently get "try again later" messages.

[@mattmorton101]

Another feature I think worth mentioning is downsizing your uploaded image, if you "shrink" the image before you tick the box it will upload the image as smaller than the generation square, you could have added all that background to the samurai bunny without having to generate a bunch of different frames if that makes sense

[@barrettvelker198]

Very interesting. Letting the ai upscaling model do most of the work in one shot. Basically it increases your window size for free

[@Alex-nk8bw]

I'm telling you, Midjourney is on fire right now. Crazy develoment speed, great quality, and an insanely creative community. ❤️

[@BuffPuffer]

Neat. Probably would have had an easier time if you removed the corn in PhotoShop, generated your backgrounds, then added corn guy back in post. Hopefully the SD webui gets something like this in the future!

[@AlterMind64]

Even though the final result is eye-candy, you will admit that most of the time you kind of selected the picture in/outpainting generation that would fit the rest, in other words it remains still VERY hard (my experience is hours of work) to actually get what you WANT, especially if variations are small. There still has to be some giant leap into getting what you actually want iteratively improved -- the generation process tend to produce something which you'll most of the time want to improve, or accept as "well that's the best I can get". Thanks a lot for the video !

[@doodyaviv]

I love dall e, it's my first Ai and had a lot of fun with it. But, I hate the greedy developers of dall e! After I spend 75$ in two days, I started using midjourney, the result are beautiful. and now dall e want me to spend maybe 2-4 dollars on one picture? I am really disappointed

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

Yep, unless they create better pricing models they will flop.

[@OfficialGundem]

@@henrythegreatamerican8136 waiting till adobe PS takes all of this and includes it in their update

[@yaelm631]

How did you spend 75$ worth of credits in two days ? That is 575 credits/prompts The me the pricing seems really reasonable, and I'm very happy with the 15 free montly credits. If you are making videos with it or large outpating, I understand then, or you might have a whole lot more of ideas than me! :)

[@LugiDergX]

@@henrythegreatamerican8136 People only hate and hate on credit system, where it's honestly really good pricing model and a lot more comfortable to use than subscriptions. Pay when you want to pay, don't pay for each month. Say, you start subscription. 2 months in, you lack creativity for entire next (3rd) month, so you just don't use the AI, but since you are sure your creativity will get back to you, you won't be cancelling the subscription just for this one month that you didn't use - You will wait a few days more. And then, they still take your money for not using that. There really is no reason to only hate on credit systems. All that people at OpenAI need is to calm down and lower the prices to feel inviting and approachable by anyone with a normal, decent job or other means of decent stable income.

[@doodyaviv]

@@yaelm631 Because I wanted to learn and try different things and different styles for every picture. There is a lot to learn, in my midjourney account I've already created more than a 1,000 in one week. If you want to be a master in something you will need to put hours in it every day

[@xbon1]

The fact midjourney won despite SD being better in nearly every way shows that ai art’s gonna be coming faster than the public is ready for it polmao

[@jeffwads]

Just some quick math: Let's say that your cost per kW/h was 15 cents. To render one image at 512x512 and 50 steps takes about 7 seconds on a 3080ti. The power drain is 250 W/h, so just a fraction of a watt, about 0.5 watts is used here. That ends up costing about 15 cents for 2000 renders at that scale. Think about that when you factor in what you are paying per render on whatever service. Keep in mind also, that a cheap scalar does an excellent job getting that 512x512 to 1024x1024 and beyond. That happens with hardly any power usage at all in comparison.

[@larion2336]

Not the first time OpenAI has done this either. Someone calculated out their costs for running GPT-3 versus what they were charging per generation, and it was several thousand % profit margin on their part. It's why alternate services like NovelAI, HoloAI, and even KoboldAI (host on your own PC) have become popular.

[@4.0.4]

The fact AI art won #1 at a fine arts competition says more about the judges and the fine arts higher education, which has a median salary identical to high school only for a reason.

[@desu38]

Doping is now a thing in art contests!

[@phillemon7664]

We definitely need regulations on contests but I don’t think we should restrict AI art in any other way (besides illegal content of course).

[@ghost-user559]

@@phillemon7664 yeah I think that’s an awful idea. Literally the worst idea ever. You understand almost every artist on earth wouldn’t exist today if “illegal stuff” was somehow banned from pen or painting? Like we literally would not have had the Renaissance or the entire history of art if the actual TOOL the artist used was censored. What an anti human dumb dystopia. Who defines what is “allowed”? So are people in Arabia or China or Russia just never gonna be allowed to make actual art again? What if they change what is illegal, does the ai delete your entire history like a KZbin channel gets deleted without any notice or warning? Wow. It really sounds like art is completely dead

[@Alteori]

I was waiting for you to cover this lol. I was playing with it all yesterday

[@SunnyGirlFlorida]

I love that little corn guy and bunny.

[@neilslater8223]

This is going to be great for maps for board games.

[@xanderdevelops]

I have watched like 10 of your videos and I just realized I wasn't subscribed... what a crime.

[@MattVidPro]

Thank you for watching 😋

[@bluedevil678]

Cool video, not seen that before - cant wait for that to land on the self hosted stable diffusion

[@selfscience]

I am 😮. The future just changed immensely. How many programas will be available and for how much, imagine a video editor that can edit by voice and assign new actor to an already captured performance.

[@Lugmillord]

The speed of progress on the topic is insane

[@justinwhite2725]

Once stable or midjourney adds in painting or outpainting than dall-e is done They aren't even out into public availability yet!

[@lucasklein448]

and it’s not very difficult lol, give them a couple days more

[@bethaapple2102]

Nice demo on outpainting. Like every update you provide.

[@brugmansianoncorpus7009]

to save credits, do all your upscaling after your outpainting

[@eddyhaze8239]

Wow that is something I hope midjourney adds that feature

[@specialdudegaming8157]

Bro thank you so much! I’ve had tNice tutorials software for like a year and was super intimidated by all the bars and windows. The way you’ve

[@kuromiLayfe]

Cool feature but wrongly advertised (or advertised in a greedy way) best way to use this is indeed for combining two or more images seamless (wouldn’t recommend trying to expand a small image into something bigger and spend hundreds of credits)

[@ghost-user559]

Wow what a fking stupid dystopia we live in now. “Don’t have new ideas bra, u can haz not enough credits to make art for 6 months if u make the pretty pic”

[@tiagotiagot]

The art competition winner guy did state he used Midjourney, some conventional work in Photoshop, and enlarging with Gigapixel; when he entered the competition, there was no attempt at deception.

[@MrNobodyX3]

How much did the one out painting cost you?

[@ysy69]

Thanks again for making and sharing your content. Re: your outpainting demo, do you know how many credits did you end up using ?

[@brennanruderman5667]

I’m guessing like a few dollars but I’m not sure

[@ghost-user559]

Wow this is literally a garbage company

[@emanuel3617]

As an artist, I must say; people that give hate twords AI generated art are the ones afraid of changes. They are afraid that now anyone can be as good as we are and they will be the first to fall. You can't fight against innovation, I think AI will be a tool as useful for artist as it is for non artists. Ps: also, chill out Tweeter, AI is not black magic, it is not like all artists are going jobless right now, we will have a lot of time to adapt, anyways. Just my opinion.

[@lucasklein448]

i agree

[@ghost-user559]

No. Artists will have no career and art will be worthless. Anyone could pay you, or simply make everything they wanted to pay you for in two seconds for free. No company will ever pay for an entire art department again.

[@RasmusSchultz]

I wonder if we can use this to generate seamless tiling textures? If you put two copies of the same image next to each other, erase the seam between them (or just leave some space) and make it inpaint the gap? 🤔

[@ash.mystic]

Yes! Check out the channel Two Minute Papers. They did a Dalle-2 video 2 days ago where they made seamless textures (among other things). The results were impressive.

[@j4fcyclone69]

I really wanna make a generation, and just keep generating outward indefinitely

[@karenreddy]

Whoever gave you those midjourney comparisons isn't that good at prompt crafting. Prompts in Midjourney test are weighted differently. You can't just compare the exact same prompt... You have to craft a prompt..for each model, then compare their capabilities.

[@Myspacemeta]

You should consider checking out Adobe Character animator. I think it would be a nice touch on your videos if you were animated I think it also fits the essence of "automatic art generation"

[@nitsan]

Photoshop has a pretty good auto fill that would have done much of these edits. Not all though.

[@throwawayidiot6451]

I have access but I'm not about to spend 12K USD to make a single image. I'm full on stable diffusion on Google Collab ATM

[@tedstriker2000]

for the whole 'art' thing - - Id print out my image - then copy it onto a page. tho also the whole 'art' thing, before AI..art people would say things like - 'Art is subjective'

[@SunnyGirlFlorida]

Can you really compare images from two programs when the same prompt can produce endless variations or varying quality?

[@Gilotopia]

6:33 is using the word "shun" instead of "sun" some clever prompt engineering?

[@miranda.cooper]

Does it really rely on what's in the box to generate a continuation? I think it's taking the entirety of the two images into account tbh

[@ThymeHere]

Thanks! This is realy cool!

[@MattVidPro]

Always here fo da viewer

[@ThymeHere]

Yes

[@Sirvateriano]

make a video about artbreeder collage please

[@sasbe1852]

So outpainting is just a little improvement of inpainting, did I get it right?

[@parsley8188]

i think that if I spent days manually painting something for a contest, and a computer geek, who spent thirty minutes using a computer to make art, won instead of me, I'd be pretty upset. it's understandable

[@demon6937]

what's the use of these updates when we can't use them , I tried midjourney free trial quickly used

[@geo-mic]

thanks a lot!!

[@jonhylow1239]

Will the DALL E support ever respond after the account got banned ?

[@stahlbergpatreon6062]

About the comment from the Colorado fiasco: yes, I will totally discount the human input into an AI image like that, and you might too if you'd been through the blood sweat and tears to reach a level where I could create such an image - 60 years of it. Plus the week or two of full time work to actually paint that image. (If painted in traditional media, more like a month.) Most artists might charge anywhere from a thousand to couple thousand usd for it. Now compare that to a few days of learning a new app, and a few hours of trying out different prompts, and maybe using up a dollar or two of credits. It takes only high school graduates, or maybe not even that soon, when the AIs start to use auto-complete, suggest prompts, and link to free prompt libraries. Any intern will be able to create the same art I can now, and soon it will be better than what I could possibly hope to achieve in a manageable time frame. In some cases this is already true. In the near future incomes start dropping for artists (and musicians). Making jokes about it ("they'll just have to turn into AIs, like me") seems in bad taste imo. Or is it a serious suggestion - we start using AI to supplement our income? How, when the price is set at a dollar or 2 per image? Sure, we'd be able to do more gigs in a month, but we can't do thousands more, which is what it would take to support my family.

[@ghost-user559]

Art will have zero value because a random intern with 30 dollars a month can create as many comps as some of the largest art departments on earth would create for full salaries in a year, instead using ai they create that output for several cents over a three day weekend. This will put the value and perception of art to zero, and blur the lines between art and propaganda. Ai generated culture is a literal dystopian nightmare.

[@jenkem4464]

Great demo.

[@antarus6338]

Man this is fantastic

[@rickgoldstein8071]

How many Dalle-2 generations / how much did this cost?

[@mikiex]

They are the shoes - because you have to take them off in Japan!!

[@Tarbard]

It kept giving me text too when I tried it earlier, annoying waste of credits. Good feature otherwise.

[@HalkerVeil]

Artists still using a paintbrush with donkey bum hairs (because that's what it is) might as well be driving to work in a horse and carriage crying about how fast people go on the highway in cars.

[@ghost-user559]

Yeah the problem with this is the dystopia where it costs you three months rent to make a few pretty pictures because you “ran out of credits”. “No being imaginative this month son, you have used up your credits I’m afraid.”

[@alintapordei7514]

this isn't the same thing as using photoshop? I understand that it's maybe faster but you can do the same thing for free with photoshop, don't see the reason why to spend money on it, in my opinion, this should be free...

[@elizabethjackson8488]

Can you do it on mobile phone please

[@vomm]

I love how AIs reveal the arrogance of humanity. Everyone thought art was something deeply human, something that distinguished humans from animals, and even more so from technology like computers. And now AIs are coming out and making the most blatant art that humans could ever dream up, in a fraction of a second. I would say after the theory of evolution, AI is the second thing that will make humanity realize that it is not as special as it likes to think. And we can be glad that AIs are only making art at the moment. It will be exciting when the first hacker AI frees up :D

[@unbalancedlibra9788]

First off. WE made A.I. we are special. We are gods trapped in flesh and limited by it. Why does this have to take away from the value of humanity? Why wouldnt it increase it? Slingshotting our evolution. I dont see birds, worms, ants, elephants making art or A.I.... humans are special.

[@unbalancedlibra9788]

Also just to be clear. A god is a creator. We created a conciousness outside of our own *"A.I"* Just like we were made, we will make other beings. I definitely think humans were genetically modified by a higher being. We are far different from animals. It takes human babys a year to even walk properly. Most animals by a year learn everything that they will ever need to know for their whole lives.

[@vomm]

@@unbalancedlibra9788 And we were made by fish having sex for millions of years, so if that's an argument.

[@stycket]

prompt "fill in empty space"

[@Felhek]

So you use a lot of credits to do this. A lot.

[@ghost-user559]

For literally no reason. This technology is actually awful

[@runes.nielsen2084]

Fantastic tool, now we just need it to be cheap or free :-)

[@Crank1]

the person who submitted the piece was under digital art category so is fine, still is not real art, cold , soul less and extremely calculated

[@albravo5096]

Voice for silent movies

[@artemisDev]

Close your wallets and use Stable Diffusion

[@ReflinWulf]

Hi, is using midjourney free results in youtube videos okay?

[@MattVidPro]

well to be honest I think in this video I transformed the works for a different purpose, so I think this is okay

[@ReflinWulf]

@@MattVidPro yep I haven't watched the video yet while commenting this, I was asking in general. Btw I didn't look at how long the video was while opening it and while watching it (I was eating) and I was shocked when you said this was a long one, it literally felt like 10 minutes or less to me

[@MattVidPro]

Ahah that’s actually good to hear I’m glad people aren’t super bored watching my videos

[@Junge_YT]

In 2 hours im Getting New credits

[@SPsounds100]

You need yo write , not text and dalle will not add text :)

[@ghost-user559]

Yes but other ai does write

[@WyzrdCat]

How can anyone afford Dall-E? It literally would have cost me more than my rent to do just what I’ve done in a few days with Midjourney.

[@tylinthomas4176]

Excuse me kind sir I've looked far and wide and have found nothing but a virus.do you think you could do a slow and specific guide on how to install the max Payne 3 trainer? I really hope see this I have been in great need.

[@GeorgeRealFU]

dude all these are great but it seems like just a few KZbinrs have access, I am waiting for about a year and nothing yet,nevertheless, no one invites anyone and the whole think now becomes like eth merge short of thing,,,peace

[@Alteori]

what???!!!! Oh no a yeeaaar??? I signed up June 27, 2022 and Aug 9, 2022 I got in. Jesus, go on their Twitter and ask if they can give you an invite

[@subn0rma1]

I have access. Midjourney is better and you can get access immediately.

[@Alteori]

@@subn0rma1 it's not as coherent though as Dalle 2

[@guynamedrick4419]

I got mime in a few months

[@GeorgeRealFU]

I've got access after all thank you guys

[@HalkerVeil]

lol Artists who are pissed probably used other cheats like mathematics to get perspective, the golden ratio maybe? They need to get with the times.

[@phillemon7664]

Ah yes, using a calculator is the same as magically popping an image into existence why haven’t I thought of this before! I don’t think we should stop people from using AI art generators but the images should not be allowed into contests, that takes the whole fun out of it if you know what I mean.

[@HalkerVeil]

@@phillemon7664 Sorry but that is not going to happen. If you can use reference images of reality, you can use AI as a reference in art. Period. The art critic and the amateur artist who think it's about the process clearly got misguided advice in their art studies at some point. And likely paid a collage tuition to get it. The reality is, artists have always used the latest in technology. The art critics are frustrated that Vermeer used the camera obscura lucida to "copy" reality. Should he, the master of light, be excluded from our books now? Welcome to 2022. Time to get out of the horse and buggy era.

[@brennanruderman5667]

@@HalkerVeil yeah but you have to be fair that even though artists stay up to date with the last eat tech, it is kind of killing the process and effort it takes to create something. I mean I get that it takes effort to take a photo so they shouldn’t have considered it cheating back then, but there’s no process with ai art, I mean like prompt engineering or whatever you want to call it is still lots of work, but it kind of just happens, and you don’t necessarily have to know what you’re trying to get in terms of aesthetic.

[@brennanruderman5667]

And art may not be recognized by its process or journey, but that is where the value in art lies, despite what consumers may say.

[@lucasklein448]

@@phillemon7664 I can generate 100 profile pictures like yours in less than 10 minutes

[@pamelacunningham7196]

First the person who won this competition is not even an artist they never went to school for art all they did was use a computer program most likely more than one to get the image that they got . But give this same person a sketch book in real time and ask them to replicate the same image that won them this competition would they be able too .

[@ghost-user559]

Doesn’t matter to corporations? That won’t stop ten from replacing every single creative artist and design team on earth with ai. Why pay humans when ai never sleeps, can’t complain or sue, and literally creates hundreds of comps in minutes for free. It’s not about philosophy. We are passed that. The danger here is even if it’s worse quality or morally wrong the companies across the earth already hate creativity and hiring artists. This will be the end of all graphic design and all artists as a paid profession.

[@kennylex]

The cries, "If all can create art they love, art will die"! The cries, "What will happen to the artists if all can be an artist"! The cries, "Art is dead! It was killed by art folk wanted and liked"! Art will never die and artists that can not compete against a computer have to come to accept that calling yourself "an artist" will not guarantee you to work with art in same way that all that have a camera now can call themself a photographer. Artists like Patrick Moya have a style that he had for decades and he keep this style so you easy can se it is his art, you can also se him make art live and paint chapels, something AI can't do. So take it easy, AI is cool and will only compete with the worst bottom scrape of artists on Fiver.

[@larion2336]

I feel like I'm the opposite case of the angry artist, as a person who has always been bad at drawing, painting, etc. but has tons of creative ideas (including a lot of hyper-vivid & creative dreams that I can never sketch down), I feel like these AI's are a godsend for people like me. So maybe it is bad for artists in some ways, but it probably helps orders of magnitude more people; that and it will get a lot of people _into_ making artwork, not drive them away.

[@ghost-user559]

No company on earth will ever hire an artist again when they get unlimited art for 30 dollars a month. Period. Art will be worthless because everyone who once payed for artists will have a subscription as commonly as the use Netflix instead of a movie theater. Why would a single company hire an artist or pay for a comp when 30 dollars a month and an intern can make the entire art departments yearly output in a single weekend.

[@larion2336]

@@ghost-user559 I guess it's a little ironic though seeing as artistry was originally not much of a high paying job in olden times anyway, outside of big projects. People still did it just for the fun and creative outlet. Maybe we will just go back to that. For sure there are millions of people who make art every day with no expectation of monetary gain. Same goes for writing and NLP AI's like GPT-3, NeoX, Fairseq, etc.

[@ghost-user559]

@@larion2336 That’s exactly what I foresee. Essentially it will revert to a passion and not a career. There is one major difference, and that is entropy. Originally when art was considered equally with manual labor such as the Renaissance, still some of the most talented people in the world had apprenticeships and massive studios and commissions ranging from private portraits to public art adorning buildings and residences. What happens when, contrary to how it was then, no art school exists for the analog artist? If it is no longer a career path it will no longer be feasible to train students on a large scale. We don’t make harpsichords, lutes, Glas harmonicas, or thousands of native instruments anymore. There are many art forms which literally cease to exist after the last of the masters dies out. What you are saying is that ultimately when institutional training fades away from being financially feasible, we may literally revert to a level of art competency not seen since the Middle Ages. If you look at Byzantine and medieval art it is essentially cartoon stick figures with light applications of basic color, no shading, no perspective or dimensionality. Even compared to the ancient Roman or Greek fresco, pottery and sculptures it is extremely primitive. It took a thousand years to get to the point where we had mainstream art competence across the board as an accepted path of mainstream education. It’s sad to know when the last of the aging masters passes we might find ourselves literally in a medieval level of competency in the visual arts. Same with music as operas and symphony halls close there doors and digital synthetic music with no actual performers is now replacing actual orchestras. It’s bleak honestly to know we are a thousand years into the dark ages should our computers fail or the power grids get hit by a solar flare. Strange times.

[@larion2336]

@@ghost-user559 Well I guess the question is whether you need music schools to learn music, or art schools to learn art. I think your concern is a little (lot actually) exaggerated in fearing we'll decline to medieval levels - after all we have more online knowledge of how to do all these things now, than ever, and quite a lot of it is free and accessible by billions of people. The internet isn't just the latest news - it's also an archive of everything relevant people hold on to. And going a little further, I think art is just one of the first victims in this area, AI is coming for everything else sooner or later. I think artists are particularly shocked by it because there has often been the perception that creative endeavors ere uniquely human & machines would never be able to encroach on that. But if we look on the bright side, this is a transitory period, and like all transitions it's gonna be tough on certain affected people. But at the other end of it, we could eventually have 24/7 access to master-level AI art-teachers, music teachers, etc. once AI-assistants/helpers reach that point. The irony being a lot of people _still_ can't bring themselves to believe that AI is going to go that far - that it'll somehow magically hit some consciousness roadblock and stop - even though there's no signs of that.

[@zoombapup]

I'm sure artists complained about photography in much the same way originally.

[@mikewileczek5143]

Actually funny enough they did. Even to this day many universities refuse to recognize it as a fine art. Change scares people but it happens whether or not you resist.

[@Felhek]

@@mikewileczek5143 "real artists" considered art a banana with a tape. A few months ago...

[@ThymeHere]

15 min 20 likes

[@HikingWithCooper]

There is no human element to this. We are NOT artists. It is art but all we're doing is prompting it. If you can create 4 Picasso paintings in a minute, you're not doing art. You're prompting. That said, I love that this is bringing original, high quality art creation to the masses.

[@hipjoeroflmto4764]

Closed ai

[@keroo3887]

Sa bro

[@fenndev]

Entering AI art into a traditional art contest is like 3D printing a Blender model and entering it into a sculpting competition. I don't want people making stupid choices to ruin AI art for me.

[@artdigitalenergy3917]

1+1=2

[@MattVidPro]

nuh uh

[@someguy3549]

2+2=4

[@MattVidPro]

nope i dont believe it

[@21EC]

4:30 - I disagree, artistry would never cease to exist since real art that is created by a real human being would always have higher value than a cheap, easy to generate AI art...that's simply because of how much effort a real human has to go through and put into his hard hand crafted painting or creation compared to AIs

[@ghost-user559]

Not really. Human art might be worth worth essentially nothing in any commercial setting. Meaning like one or two world famous artists might exist, however most companies on the entire earth will not find humans worth the cost, when they can create unlimited artworks with no employees whatsoever for 30$ a month. So that means actual artists will be a hobby, and a hobby rapidly out paced by people posting “ai art”. So even that hobby will essentially be buried by the algorithm. Art will not be a career, it will be an ancient hobby, when an intern in a three day weekend could output more art than Leonardo da Vinci’s entire lifetime. No company will hire another “inefficient creative” when they can literally press a button and get 10 comps for free. Real world art will be worthless to the average company and for major companies they will need only one artist on staff for every 100 they once needed.

[@21EC]

​@@ghost-user559 What I meant is that human art's true value on its own is above AI generated content, but sure, in the eyes of employers it would be worthless to have a human worker and instead they would simply create their art using AI, that's the sad reality of it, I as a 3D artist creator would never ever stop to create cool stuff since it is my hobby and profession despite these AI generators superiority, it just means I would have to find another profession as a job instead but as I've said, I am not intending to ever stop creating 3D content, that's my passion, that's my thing for the past 17+ years, AI will not stop me from creating great 3D content which would surely be much more appreciatable and will have greater value over AI generated content since AI gen' art is just way cheaper and easy to create and no human did that, it is like cheating in a video game...can you really get impressed by a cheater using his aimbots to get better scores much easily..? nope, can you appreciate his cheating by any way? nope as well, it is kind of the same with AI gen stuff, real skill of a non cheating human player would always have higher value and would impress people much more in the long run.

[@ghost-user559]

@@21EC Well the only problem is this is basically beta testing and in some cases 2nd gen, but it already could replace 80% of artists and 90% of many workflows. It can create static graphic design, and some other ones can even easily be combined with ai video animation. And you can even set 3D renders in most of these ai as well, and there is an ai in the works to turn any photo or comp into a FINAL 3D render. All the human is needed for us touch ups. Unfortunately most humans don’t know anything about quality or actual art. The struggle is real. Most people would rather have fast food garbage than cook gourmet at home, and people would rather watch a sht movie than read that same amazing book. So normal people would not even notice that we have been replaced. If anything they might like it more because no more “waiting on us” to produce content. Just click a button and synthesized anime with fully rendered scenes, ai actors and voice over in your native language and unlimited randomized storylines in any given genre. That’s literally where this is headed. On demand ai pron and movies and comics without a single human involved for endless binge watching and streaming unlimited ai bands or dead musicians with new ai albums that never actually existed. That’s where this is going. The tech and demos and betas for ALL of what I just said are already here awaiting funding. The question is how much will human life be worth to govs and corporations who already appear to hate us, especially when they literally have no use for us whatsoever. That’s what I worry about for real. If being homeless is illegal but there are literally no jobs for humans, and they have no use for us, then what. I’m not worried about how we handle that, I am worried about how the corrupt dystopian rulers of these countries will handle that.

[@21EC]

@@ghost-user559 Well, maybe in the future every kind of job you can think of will be replaced by AI in some way ultimately (even using physical robots + AI) so in the end they might have to give people a monthly salary for basicaly doing nothing, just so they can keep having their basic needs in check and so people would only do things they love doing as a hobby..3D/2D art as well.

[@HCforLife1]

MJ happen to be a woke piece of crap with mods banning people who they didn't aggreed (based on teir personal opinions and agendas) - my money will be spent on SD and projects based on SD which we could see soon (photoshop SD extension). BTW - I agree with the other AI artists - the whole - "the person just press a button" opinion is bullsht coming from fragile people. AI artists is literally like art director - you need to have a knowledge, artistic taste, good ideas and put hard work into craft (prompts, images mutations and so on)

[@MattVidPro]

I agree with this but I do think it should be a separate category in an art contest!

[@phillemon7664]

You had to have tried to make some offensive shit if you got banned from Midjourney, I did some silly stuff like Tupac meeting Elvis and got some strange shit and that didn’t get me banned even though the outputs were pretty dang weird.

[@technoe02]

There is nothing wrong with what the creator of the AI art did.

[@Crank1]

creators, this are a big group of people in different parts of the world working on this 24/7 and is not cheap, keep up the system is expensive

[@ghost-user559]

@@Crank1 Not anymore

[@flynntaggart7216]

@@ghost-user559 who said it's not anymore do you know how much it cost to keep up a cloud computing

[@ghost-user559]

@@flynntaggart7216 Because you can run a system like stable diffusion on your own gpu at home for no more cost than the electricity for playing a video game. There is open source ai that you can render with locally and at home.