Matty Johns lifts lid on 2008 GF & what went so wrong for the Melbourne Storm | Matty Johns Podcast

[@benbrennan4953]

Wow a conversation about the game and not the politics of the game. How refreshing!!

[@outlawrip-offartist4161]

I’m not a manly supporter, but watching the manly mascot celebrate with the players made me smile.

[@jparko4944]

Awesome stuff. Was at that game, and every home game that year bar one. 'Egor the Eagle' (the mascot) always seemed to be the last one off the pitch cause every kid at Brookie wanted a high-five or a photo. They adored him, and that lap for the ankle-biters always made me smile. Had a real unpolished Sesame Street footy fan vibe to him. Especially compared to The Storm's stupid Marvel-wannabe mascot:P

[@antoniedobbe781]

Blocker needs to stop interrupting stories

[@davemckagan635]

He needs to be fired as a commentator. His whining during games is insufferable.

[@laopakse760]

He’s like the kid off The Castle

[@critterwatene8073]

Hes a clown.

[@Gamminn]

Fuk off you dog cunts he’s the best

[@kingjamez5934]

Was at that final, not a manly fan but my dad is and it was awesome game to be at 🙌🏽 the atmosphere was insane! Especially when beaver went over for his try!!

[@kingjamez5934]

@Keep It Simple LMAO

[@kingjamez5934]

@Keep It Simple Augustus Gloop…..save some for later

[@lou_sasoul1578]

If you actually want to 'lift the lid' talk about how the Storm were millions of dollars over the salary cap for years leading up to this final

[@noblevisions643]

calm down champion is was barely 2 million

[@Tonymarshall11]

@@noblevisions643 it’s getting to ya that people keep saying millions aye 😂

[@sja1453]

It was less about Melbourne’s demise and more about the fact that the 2008 Manly side is to this day the best club team of all time. Still never seen football like it, the 110 - 12 finals run almost doesn’t even do it justice, absolutely everything clicked.

[@george-henryleo5040]

40-0 speaks for itself

[@mitchellfitzgerald1739]

@@ljnouata9088 how'd that streak go champ 🇺🇦

[@ljnouata9088]

@@mitchellfitzgerald1739 how’d your team go? Still hold the 19 game winning streak. Let’s see your team do that

[@rokomalani432]

@@ljnouata9088 Streaks don't matter of you don't win a Championship while you're at it. Eels prevented Storm from making History mate. Better luck next time. 2008 Manly > 2021 Storm or any Storm ever.

[@ljnouata9088]

@@rokomalani432 exactly. When’s the last time Eels won the Comp Champ 🤣🤣🤣 when’s the last time Manly won. Storm>watever team you support. Did your team even make the top 8 🤣

[@Mikequalitycontrol]

If you really think about Greg Inglis single handedly destroyed the Broncos confidence for years

[@96model96]

That '08 Semi final against the Broncos is still the single greatest Rugby League game i've seen

[@adthomp]

i love the grand final stories like this!

[@rodneymatthews1891]

great chat. found it very interesting

[@b33san47]

I remember Lockyer breaking down after losing to the Storms, the game was so emotional. Brisbane sould have been the ones going to the finals that year against Manly.

[@atak1_]

Would have not won 😂

[@jacobmurphy423]

@@atak1_ i think they do

[@atak1_]

jacob Murphy mate there not gonna win a team with Matty orford Brett Stewart both centres and wingers in their prime mate that manly team was too strong

[@SpongebobsRippedPant]

@@jacobmurphy423 We already thrashed you guys that year lol

[@jacobmurphy423]

@@SpongebobsRippedPant when grandpa Brisbane would've won for me momentum Wayne Bennett would've got them up for it and I reckon would've schooled manly

[@roryhofmans9481]

Are we really gonna forget the fact that Melbourne were cheating the salary cap? As far as I’m concerned a lot of what the Melbourne Storm contributed during the 05-10 seasons isn’t monumental at all. If anything, it showed how extraordinary Manly were to compete in either of those Grand Finals. The same can be said for the 06’ Broncos and the 09’ Eels

[@b33san47]

I agree completely.

[@Midnight-kn7mg]

Manly were unstoppable during that 08 finals series

[@bksiv]

Rory Hofmans obviously not illegal but Dessy’s back ended contracts actually had a similar effect to the Storm’s brown paper bag payments. Keeping a squad worth more than the cap together.

[@roryhofmans9481]

@@bksiv I can see the logic. But as you said; it’s not illegal 😂. I would also argue that none of those names come close to the collaborative works of Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk, and Greg Inglis, which would lead into another of my arguments but I don’t really want to get into the Sham Storm legacy 😂

[@Fuzcapp]

And the grapple tackles and the head highs, and the chicken wing tackles and the forward passes from dummy half by Cameron Smith all the time, and Billy Slaters boots first studs up sliding at try scorers, and the late elbows on try scorers which was a common bonus if you scored against Melbourne back then, and the intimidation of the referees and the buckets of money given to them by News Corp and the absolute utter cheating on the salary cap - the Melbourne club of that era (early 2000s) was a total grub club from top to bottom.

[@sd097]

The grubs were cheating they were millions over the cap and got beat 40-0 biggest loss in a grand final

[@noblevisions643]

ease up champion they were only a million and a half over the cap not "millions"

[@markmoffat597]

@@noblevisions643yep. At that million was sitting on the sidelines (smith)

[@LoganInThailand]

Always admired that Manly side. They weren't a bunch of superstars. They just played football and stood by each other. DCE destroyed that club.

[@DaquaviousFriggleton]

How did he destroy it?

[@loonyleper]

The answer: a crazy little thing called karma

[@terangitepou8001]

Cam smith didnt play

[@8CSKN8]

@@terangitepou8001 still cheated the cap

[@ribatlawrence2890]

Come on Matty!!! Even if Cameron Smith was there he wouldn't have done shxt!! Manly came back for PURE REVENGE for the previous grand final!!! They thought they where going to get away with the 2007 grand final 34-8 against Manly. Damn that wasn't forgotten by the boys a year after!! As a loyal Manly fan, I didn't forget one bit! But the boys came back gooooood!!! And haaaaaard!!! 40-0???? Topping it off with sending The Beaver off with his final try!! 🤭♥️🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅 HAILLLLLLL THE MIGHTY MANLY SEA EAGLES!!!!!! 🦅

[@brettmitchell8]

I started following manly in 97 when Matty here and of course Andrew beat us in the last minute with possibly the most famous grand final try in the last 40 years. My birthday is the 3rd of October (Grand final day in 08) turned 19 in 08 was young and drinking like a fish with my mates, when the beaver went over I cried. Followed em all the way from NewCastles win over em to see the Great Steve Menzies score. Best Birthday ever I’ve never been so emotional as an adult. Awesome for a sea eagle fan

[@samueltalim9220]

This podcast and the topic about Manly's best grand final ever is one of Joeys favourite 😊😊

[@cooperbaker8144]

What a chat! love this sorta stuff!

[@OZIPUG1970]

40-0 against cheating pricks full of talent.Inglis, Folau ,Cronk and Slater gets whooped by the best team ever.

[@DaquaviousFriggleton]

Fark yeah

[@TheTrueHeroes]

I dunno why they keep saying it was a chicken wing. Cameron Smith made contact around Thaiday's head and was pulling up on it, potentially hurting his neck.

[@lukeharkin7]

Funny with the 40 nil. Manly missed alot of conversions probably should of been 50 nil

[@ozziebloke6293]

All you had to say was Smith didn't play. That Melbourne side was like the old Newcastle side without joey.

[@jageroce7596]

It really wasn't

[@Nile15rush_fj]

No way that Melbourne side had far more star power. X factor players

[@rokomalani432]

They didn't need an extra referee.

[@camerontheodore3036]

Weren't Melbourne way over the salary cap? Manly in 08 finals were probably the greatest finals team in history. 110-12 in the finals is crazy.

[@Royalpaininbum]

No player is worth 40 points

[@striiveix1692]

What went wrong: everything

[@laopakse760]

That’s a long chat for “cam smith didn’t play”

[@grahamb.4447]

Manly won the preceding games 38-6 and 32-6.

[@weststigers1879]

Manly scored 110 points and only conceded 12 in three finals games.

[@thomasdaniel2669]

Manly sweep that finals series 108-6 in their three games. Other than the GF record of 40- 0, they have the biggest for and and against finals series record of all time. 🦅🦅🦅😊😊

[@matts3191]

I’ll tell you what went wrong, Matty was on the storm coaching staff😂

[@ribatlawrence2890]

Gold 😂😂😂 And then he blame it on Smith not playing 😂😂😂

[@neilkruse835]

Wow. Matty actually praising the Storm for coming back in 2009? Seriously? They were running the most sophisticated salary cap rort in Australian sporting history. To not even mention that is pretty disingenuous. Now I admire the Storm for coming back after their 2010 punishment to legitimately win the comp in 2012. That was fantastic. What I don't admire is what Melbourne did from 2006 to 2010.

[@mrpopo5097]

It’s wild how a the storm team had slayer, Cronk, smith and Inglis and still lost 40-0

[@brettmitchell8]

No Smith, but they had a hell of a side. Big money for big name players. Only a couple of million over the cap ya know 😂

[@Detoritte]

Cameron Smith didn't play, he was suspended for a dangerous tackle on a Broncos player.

[@roderickhutchinson5447]

As a manly fan it was superb. We won against the dirtiest team in professional football history. Every low act came out of Melbourne playbook.

[@noblevisions643]

didnt the inbred manly club get done for salary cal cheating too 4 years ago like the inbreds that they are 😂😂

[@noblevisions643]

$750K over the cap exactly half of what melbourne was

[@owenkenafack849]

I love blocker wat an absolute beast

[@Nate-on5xm]

The thrashed was hard to swallow

[@crypto5959]

Lol Paul Kent seems to be doing okay

[@sd097]

People forget the Melbourne grubs were millions over the salary cap and couldn't score 1 pont grubs

[@laffo1980]

Yeh the storm won the grand final the next year by cheating the salary cap

[@superchickenmilk]

The thing is they were cheating in 08 as well and lost 40-0...

[@Fuzcapp]

Bellamy's idiotic siege mentality. Melbourne were a grub club from top to bottom in that era.

[@wacka2489]

If Ashton sims didn't drop the ball seconds to go before full-time against storm (he ran the ball up like it was the start of the game) Broncos would've most likely won the grand final. ps,but it's only a game

[@tynanjones]

No one was beating manly that year

[@JJSPARROW1978]

Duck eggs anyone? Melbourne? Do I send them to Melbourne or Sunshine coast?

[@noobishly66]

Salary cap cheats and still lose 40-nil, and people still making excuses why they lost.

[@noblevisions643]

manly cheated the cap too

[@cameronjohns8639]

For the best Kentys missus took one for the team I reckon

[@peterstarr5123]

Is the public excuse forum for Melbourne

[@ziggyhogan7560]

No mention that they had a million more on the park in 07 08 09 and if they lost 40 nil without smith i imagine without spending a million more than there opposition those grand finals would have been very different. Never forget the did not win 07 and 09 they rob every other team of that chance

[@sallymay24]

That’s why storm always take the week if any player is ever charged now ...Jesse was charged a couple weeks a go got rid of his 75 points now back down to 0 Christian was charged last week and has taken this week and will now be back down to 0 ...what happened to Cameron will NEVER EVER happen at our club ever again

[@yt.damian]

Yeeehah. 40 f@#$ing Nil.

[@peterjongsma2779]

Am I going mad? Melbourne won in a tight fought game .18 16. 2008. Am I going mad?

[@MegaBadseed]

I think you’re going mad.

[@rodsturgiss624]

Rate cronk better than smith imo leaves melb goes to roosters wins the next 2 grand finals

[@cjd8ven528]

🦅🦅💪💪

[@Blockplay2350]

Only won the comp the next year cos the cheatin bastards were over the cap! EELS 2009 Champs

[@spazbog123]

40-0.

[@michaelmcfadden9699]

Yes the storm cheated the cap , get over it they clearly proved in the decade since there still the benchmark. And to be honest I'm not a storm man but they probably win those comps with out cheating in 07 and 09. , They built around those big 3 learnt they could still be successful , . But yes the club deserved what they got at the time cheating.

[@icmull]

They did create all those players. Not like the Roosters just buying them.

[@simonpapik6365]

Cameron Smith was reported and didn't play

[@xeftones]

No Cameron Smith. That's what happened

[@Lolesio1820]

And Hoffman too

[@camerontheodore3036]

And way over the salary cap.

[@Royalpaininbum]

You really think smith is worth 40 points

[@xeftones]

@@Royalpaininbum he wouldn't have scored 40 points but the team dynamic, direction and game plan would have dramatically changed. Once a team has its head down the opposition can pile the points on.

[@boganbob2708]

In Rugby League players poll, an overwhelming 49% of players agreed that the Storm were the dirtiest team in the competition.

[@takenwalk6713]

Bogan Bob do you have the link

[@boganbob2708]

@@takenwalk6713 Google. RLW players poll. Storm whinging about winning the award and PC culture forced the question to be dropped from the questionnaire.

[@takenwalk6713]

Bogan Bob ok here’s a question are you still stucked up of over 11 years ago?

[@boganbob2708]

@@takenwalk6713 11 years ago??? Please.. You still stuck on the Storm being the biggest grubs in the competition? Maybe the dirty way they cheated financially? Or perhaps how they treated Alex McKinnon? The filth they put out on the field? If you knew any current NRL players, or even park rugby league players you would know they still think the same. While the question may have stopped the answer still remains the same.

[@takenwalk6713]

Bogan Bob ok so you are but as a storm fan I’ll say they got what they deserved ok but you can’t say that the players knew they didn’t write their checks that’s the ceo that does that so you can’t go out and say that the players knew about that and they are grubs but now the roosters are doing the same thing and no one is talking about that they lost that final and got stripped of the other 2 they deserve that but that was 11 years ago mate stop talking about it and if Storm were coming last every year no one would talk about the things they did

[@peterstarr5123]

Yeah they won it in 09 because they cheated

[@terangitepou8001]

Cam smith didnt play

[@jakeellawton1969]

So still had Inglis Slater cronk

[@ljnouata9088]

Storm destroy Manly again in the Finals 2021. Puts 40 on Manly, nothing new 🤣

[@bus5683]

You have a mint f6

[@joesmith8044]

Was that in a Grand Final? I think not

[@atak1_]

if you think storm are better then manly your just dumb we have first of all MORE premierships IMMORTALS LEGENDS storm have cheated the cap that’s the only way they won they had an over cap team and won but when it came to 2016 and 2018 what happened exaclty youse lost can’t win without an over cap team

[@timedison6687]

40-0