MAX PLAYS: Metroid Prime Remastered...FOR THE 1ST TIME! Part 1

[@JShepLord]

Scanner: "This object is breakable. If you apply even the smallest amount of pressure to it, it'll shatter and break apart into dust. It has literally sat here so long that time itself has eaten at it until it is barely standing." Max: *doesn't try anything besides regular beam shots* "Hmmm. Can't get through here. Must be something I don't have."

[@RokushoTheRavager]

I love Max, he's one of my favorite content creators, but he does the exact same annoying shit that damn near every single streamer does and it never ceases to make me facepalm 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@phoenixlich]

4:05:00 LMAOOOOOOO

[@АртурМилкович]

@@phoenixlich .

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@drewbellamy467]

P

[@CarryOnGames1996]

I envy people who get to experience this game for the first time.

[@Toygun05]

First time 🙇🏻 I‘m enjoying it so far!

[@Chrima1908]

First time and 10 hours in. I like it so far but prefer the „classic“ 2d Metroids.

[@johnnyyungboss]

i’m playing it for the first time. it’s great. it would have blown my mind if i played it when it came out but i didn’t have a gamecube

[@popeyes17]

@Chrima1908 I totally agree I remember playing it on the gamecube I was the same way but after beating the game it was a awesome experience.

[@m3tr0id86]

This was the game that got me into FPS games.

[@2sallads]

"It's got a weird soundtrack" You mean the greatest soundtrack of all time

[@FiggyFiggleton]

It took him until 1:01:40 to notice he can push "A" after scanning to continue reading

[@entityrj]

Thank you for marking it. My OCD was killing me on this. When someone's streaming on twitch, I never have anything useful to say. But when it's on youtube, my god, I can always notice something that makes me wish to god it was live so I could scream about it.

[@LetterNumber]

Agreed, thanks for marking this. It was driving me up a wall

[@RokushoTheRavager]

I was wondering when the hell he'd finally figure this out. Of course it takes an hour for a streamer to deduce this. This right here perfectly highlights why I cant tolerate the vast majority of streamers 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@melon3109]

thank you for the timestamp! i really hoped he figured it out eventually.

[@NuiYabuko]

​@@RokushoTheRavager Didn't keep you from writing 700+ comments on this channel though.

[@Katzelle3]

Props to the folks who can watch this and not go into angry driving instructor mode because holy tunnel vision batman

[@amyball3342]

I couldn't agree more. So many times I yelled out "No! What are you doing?!" or "How could you have missed that?!", man what a frustrating watch.

[@RokushoTheRavager]

​@@amyball3342 I sat through all 12hrs, imagine how I feel seeing one of my all time favorite games, absolutely butchered by pure stupidity.

[@IssueInTheShell]

the stream sent me into fight or flight mode at least 216 times

[@mugenaitest]

The gatekeeping in this thread is real. You people are pathetic. Not everyone has played this game. There's a first time for everything. Getting mad over a video game.

[@esmooth919]

​@@amyball3342 yeah, but u have to remember, this was a *_blind_* playthru. Lolz

[@seanbourdier8756]

"It's weird it gives you hints when you're already on the way there" He says going in the opposite direction.

[@StephenCinAZ]

3:08:40 - "Yeah, that definitely isn't obvious." I know, right? It only tells you when you read the full scan info on the blast shield that it needs to be unlocked with a nearby control, and then also explicitly tells you that the grating over the hole is brittle while *also* clearly showing an enemy inside the space to illustrate that it's accessible. Definitely not obvious at all. It made *much* more sense to try moving the floating platforms with missiles. 😐

[@BigHailFan]

Real Arin Hanson moment.

[@swordmaster009]

I was facepalming so hard at this part in particular! I’m like dude, read the whole thing!! It’s not that hard! 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@darklordliam]

I love how much this game subtly tells you things without an in your face tutorial. “What’s this thing on the left telling me? Warning? Does it mean the water- OH!” So good.

[@Relugus]

And the subtle sound that hints an item is nearby. The game uses environments and audio to tell you things.

[@АртурМилкович]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@CubeParrot1]

Yeah it requires thinking, which barely no game does today.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Scan everything, even the asteroids!

[@rickychappell7179]

​@@Relugus super metroid did it too

[@bigscheesy4982]

Btw the visuals in dolphin+hd textures are very far from the remaster, the remaster is a noticeable improvement in all areas, with the largest being entirely new baked lighting and pbr materials, along with complete remodeling on every object, environment, etc.

[@logiclunacy606]

Cause the 'remaster' is a remake.

[@yourself1210]

@@logiclunacy606 it’s still built on the wii versions source code

[@Spaze47]

@@yourself1210 Yes but no? Retro Studios maintains a proprietary engine called RUDE, and some version of this is what the remake runs on. It is *not* the same version that appears in the Wii version of the game. It is also (probably) not the version that Metroid Prime 4 will use either. Many of the visual improvements present in the remake, with lighting in particular, would not be possible on the version of the engine that the Wii titles have.

[@TaimatCR]

At least you can play in vr with dolphin so there's that going for it I guess 🤣

[@g.t.o7617]

. .

[@loganbolgove8807]

Max's reaction to the scan mechanic is about exactly what I expected from him, altho I don't blame him for not wanting to engage too much with it since it does slow down the pace of the game, but it's also a part of what helps and make Prime have its good own established atmosphere and lore, on top of certain parts of the game that absolutely want scan to be used. Bit of a shame 'cause it feels like Max has entered this game with the wrong kind of expectation or maybe trying to think that combat is the main dish in this game where Prime is advertised as a First Person Adventure and not a First Person Shooter game for a good reason.

[@paperluigi6132]

Which is a shame, cause Prime being an FPA game is a big reason for its success, since Nintendo isn’t really all about standard FPS titles.

[@veefrog]

I think the original controls work best for it, forces you to slow down and look at the scenery.

[@petebagwell6666]

He didn't even know he could press A to see the next page of info

[@Terronage]

I was just about to type "going to have to prepare for 15 hours+ of Max not scanning shit or reading,arent I?" but you summed it up much better. I only disagree in not blaming him because he's now played enough Metroid games to know what they are and arent. Hope it changes later, because as you said, it's kinda undercutting a key piece of the experience, and why this game was so great.

[@BigHailFan]

God forbid people do a little reading.

[@StephenCinAZ]

Reads that the Sheegoth is invulnerable to beam weapons. Continues to use beam weapon. That's Arin Hanson levels of ignoring the info that the game provides you.

[@RokushoTheRavager]

It's why I can't tolerate the vast majority of streamers, cause they're all fucking idiots. Even some of what Max does annoys the hell out of me, but his witty commentary and hilarious remarks/reactions, make up for it.

[@egebamyasi2929]

That one was especially frustrating to watch. And then acts like you only had to shoot it a bunch of times when the underbelly was stated to be susceptible to concussive blasts (i.e. missiles)

[@BigHailFan]

the underbelly part meant bombs, not missiles.

[@egebamyasi2929]

@@BigHailFan Ah you're right. My bad

[@ElliotKeaton]

Yeah, but Arin would do an entire video on why it must be the game that's wrong.

[@AndreEndo]

In defense of the old "tank" controls, the game was designed with them in mind, which gives the game a feel of being more of a platformer then an actual shooter. Most of the enemies you get to fight will be in direct line of sight to use the lock-on system and having the weapons to quick swap with the c-stick, or secondary analog, comes really handy in this game since on later fights it becomes a lot more about choosing the right tool for the job rather then aimming.

[@riplix20]

2:41:00 poor max, not realizing there’s save points freakin everywhere,he just didn’t look very hard

[@yashA.456]

right after that when he realized he took the long way around instead of using the elevator cracked me up too hahha. I'd not say he didn't look very hard, rather sometimes you be looking too hard, searching for every little way/entrance/exit to every room and hidden secret and then you just get lost in the sauce. Max 100% got lost in the sauce😂😂😂

[@SoukaDeezNutz]

That's just Prime.

[@mr.awesome6011]

He gushed over Eldin Ring and its backwards ass save system. This isn't too far off.

[@sonicthomasgamer]

Repeat play throughs will hopefully help, it helped me. First time playing the original years ago I struggled a lot, but it was worth it and getting tons of power felt really nice, now I’m finally at the final boss

[@dluv4u2]

He really wasn't thinking this time around. Watching him miss things that was literally Infront of him, was draining AF.

[@budthecyborg4575]

2:41:07 "There has been no saves" He must not remember that you can save in your ship.

[@Amberle38]

That had me dying. Literally walked past it about 10 times, and kept on doing it even after he died & lost loads of progress 😂

[@jackvalentine2892]

I love that max was talking about good game design throwing you out exactly where you needed to go directly after walking straight past the elevator to magmoor caverns XD

[@princessoscar3089]

LOL yeah he's a fighting gamer for a reason, not a puzzle gamer...

[@jameskeen3321]

Max dying is funny enough. Max realizing he missed an obvious elevator that led directly to save point is hilarious

[@Ultimaniacx4]

30:00 Silly Max, scanning IS the game.

[@unlimited971]

That s the only i hate about the prime series. Obligatory scanning to 100% the game. Missed a thing you can t return to? Sucks for ya.

[@zachataxxii7126]

The Gamecube was my childhood and this game is still one of my favorites of all time. So good to see a great remaster and to see newcomers get into it

[@Wrekkshoppe]

You had a crappy childhood then🤣

[@m3tr0id86]

@@Wrekkshoppe just wow......

[@zachataxxii7126]

@@Wrekkshoppe GameCube & Metroid slander, imagine having such shit taste lol

[@m3tr0id86]

Yep and seriously if people need a good start to FPS games, this a not only a good start, but a phenomenal beauty to boot. The environment, the music which is still remixed since it originally came out since and the boss fights that come with it.

[@Wrekkshoppe]

@@zachataxxii7126 No, I like Metroid. GameCube was trash, though.

[@TechnoSyndro]

Max closing every scan after the first page because he keeps hitting Xbox A (B) instead of Nintendo A is driving me crazy. I don't even care if he reads the scans or not, it's just the fact that he doesn't realize it that makes me squirm in my seat a little bit every single time

[@javitoporretas]

infuriating

[@JOYCONBOYZ76]

Same 😳

[@Gabriel_Cook]

It's like me with a PS3 controller as I game on Nintendo pretty much exclusively.

[@zeroshinkai957]

Lol!

[@jonesygrets6029]

Triggered

[@icedcapplord710]

While I generally prefer 2D Metroid for the fluidity of exploration and platforming elements, Prime absolutely nails worldbuilding, narrative and atmosphere in a way I don't really see from a lot of first-person games. It's less accurate to call Prime a first-person shooter akin to something like Halo since I think it's more fittingly described as a first-person adventure game. The shooting and action element isn't really the point in Prime at all. In fact a lot of the first-person stuff comes from the puzzles and especially scanning objects of interest to get more lore, which is my favorite aspect of gameplay across the trilogy.

[@ElliotKeaton]

Yeah, calling Metroid Prime an FPS because you shoot in first person is like calling Super Metroid a Run N' Gun because you run with a gun.

[@applejuicejunkie316]

While I agree Prime is best called a first-person adventure, it very much is a first-person shooter. Prime was successful because it blended a lot of genres and nailed 3D jumping which a lot of FPS games still struggled with in the early 2000s.

[@itachileesan]

I specifically love reading all the space pirate logs and how they refer to her as the hunter.

[@911meltdown2]

I have an impulse to scan everything upon entering a new room. Seeing him not do that gives me anxiety

[@DekkarJr]

lmao i cant decide what is worse, him skipping over obvious stuff like that or Asmongold's inventory in any game he's ever played

[@MegaTomPlays]

The first time with Prime!! Such an amazing experience, also seems like Max finds out what happens if you don't save 🤣😂

[@MegaTomPlays]

@@Arkonoid404 I'm glad I'm not the only one!

[@esmooth919]

To be fair, this game is stingy as hell with save stations!

[@MegaTomPlays]

@@esmooth919 it really is, and near the end it's less feast more famine

[@Zack_Wildfire]

@@esmooth919 the space pirate section turned into a gauntlet you get one save area and can really screw yourself over with that map if you're not careful.

[@Mastersall]

Lmfao max had the word save getting people time out from chat cause everyone started spaming it lmfaooo

[@MattDoesGaming6]

One of the best games ever made, this is a masterpiece

[@johndodo2062]

THE best game ever made. It did things better back then than most games do now in 2023. Fromsoft basically stole their story design and actually did it lazier than retro did.

[@MattDoesGaming6]

@@johndodo2062 yeah agreed, I really hope we get mp2 and 3 also :)

[@RokushoTheRavager]

A LEGIT masterpiece, considering how often that damn buzzword gets thrown around all the freaking time these days.

[@АртурМилкович]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@MattDoesGaming6]

@Alpha Beta nah

[@SciontheDark]

Maybe one day he will learn that there's a flashing A button prompt when he scans things.

[@Actualchristianity]

Yeah this is hard to watch lol.

[@fineline2212]

honestly just doesn't care about the game. only playing it for that revenue.

[@spyro440]

Most streamers don't. Whyever. It says "A". Directly in the middle of the screen. If flashes. But people don't get it.

[@javiervargas6366]

i am right here screaming at MAX use the damn Visor!!!!

[@RokushoTheRavager]

Oh trust me, we all are.

[@sonario0074]

While I usually don't really like to be a backseat gamer, it is pretty infuriating to watch other people just straight up ignoring game mechanics. That's one of the reasons why I actually like the concept of a casual filter. They make sure that you know how the game works before they let you proceed.

[@gamerfor69]

Him not wanting to scan everything makes it that much harder of a game for whoever plays it. I was excited for him to experience this masterpiece and i was so disappointed that the "didn't take it seriously" a big ass 0 in effort to Max in this occasion.

[@Wintis_Swizzle]

I totally agree. Seems like a toddler with a set of Ferrari keys

[@StephenCinAZ]

4:06:03 - Come on, man... Haven't we already learned this lesson? You read that it's the only statue with signs of fragility, and all you do is shoot it once with a single power beam blast then walk away? Why did it take so long to try shooting it with a missile?

[@cibeletrajano]

Playing stupid is his thing 😅

[@DekkarJr]

@@cibeletrajano *Being stupid

[@gianperez2103]

If Max used the scan visor, it would’ve saved him a lot of stress lol

[@giorgiomx]

I remember MP: Echoes, too dense, convoluted, tedious, hard, confusing, dark ...and I loved it, my favorite of the Trilogy, I hope it comes out Remastered and soon too. I stopped playing videogames in 1995, came back at it in 2015, I asked little brother "what's the current Nintendo console?", he said "the Wii U", then I asked "was there any other Metroid games after Super Metroid?", "some, there's one called Metroid Prime, actually a trilogy from the Wii, you can play it on the Wii U", I had no idea what was he talking about Wiis and such, so I went to ebay, bought someone's WiiU console and the Metroid Prime Trilogy. I got it and saw the controllers... "wtf is this?", my brother "those are the Wiimotes, you play Metroid Prime with those like this and this.." waving his hands 😳🤦‍♂️, I was like "you sure these are the main controllers??, oh well🙄 I put the Metroids on ...and had a freaking awesome time!, took me months to finish the trilogy, like 65hours each game.

[@Galiaverse]

Aye, somebody who gets it! MP2:E is so alien - much more than MP1. Aether is both fascinating and intensely hostile. But it's a game where you have to keep your wits about - not necessarily reactively, but the game expects you to use all of the tools and information it gives you. If you don't it kicks your butt, and if you do you're an Ing-slaying beast. It does have notable flaws, but the pros so outweigh the cons.

[@Relugus]

​@Galiaverse I love the UI menu system in MP2, it became intuitive to me very quickly.

[@Relugus]

​@Galiaverse I love the UI menu system in MP2, it became intuitive to me very quickly.

[@DissyIV]

Prime 2 is so good.

[@RokushoTheRavager]

I love each Prime game better than the last, but given it took me so long to finally get a chance to play Echos, when I finally dived in through The Trilogy, after about 7 minutes I was already hooked. I couldn't put the game down until I'd finished it and I was fortunate to not have to play through it with those clunky ass GameCube controls. I get why some may not like it or think it's tedious due to Dark Aether, but the Light & Dark world aspect of the same planet, is such a friggin cool concept. It's just like Zelda: A Link To the Past, but better in my opinion.

[@SnazzyPuke]

The soundtrack to this and Echoes has to be some of my favorites ever!

[@SiimonDice]

I love the old school saved system, its like... save or get fck

[@ElliotKeaton]

Retro: Max: _"Ah, yes, Metroid Prime: Dolphin Edition. Fans have already, like, HD remade this game, right? Even the- the, uh, the Dolphin Emulator. People, like, up-res'd all of the textures and shit. Made them crazy high res. Almost in the same way that... I feel like they did with this."_ Does... Does Max think this is a texture pack?

[@dart7957]

No, he knows very well that it's more than that, he just takes this strange pleasure in criticizing nintendo in absolutely everything they do, he does it all the time with switch and will do it with their next console

[@GameTimeNLL]

​@@dart7957 sadly a lot of people do this. Tho people have been doing it since sega started the what nintendont phase. Its popular 🤷‍♂️

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

It also helps when you refuse to align your buttons in the way everyone else is use to and your jump button default ends up being the B button. I’m a nostalgic Nintendo guy for sure but anytime I go back to play a Nintendo game it always takes a minute to adjust.

[@MyriadofNeglect]

Somebody needs to tell him to scan all the red scan-ables I believe it adds to the ending also pressing A while holding yield more results.

[@GoldenLeafsMovies]

I thought all things needed to be scanned, including yellows. Like I'm pretty sure enemies are yellow and add to the 100% thing.

[@MyriadofNeglect]

@@GoldenLeafsMoviesYes you are right actually the enemies are yellow. My mistake. However only the creatures, chozo history, and certain mechanical pieces and the items show up in the lore.

[@АртурМилкович]

mmm

[@BigHailFan]

only enemies, research, and lore add to it. you don't have to scan everything in the game. also it's items for the ending, not logbook.

[@zeroshinkai957]

@@GoldenLeafsMovies Yellow and red I think.

[@Ultimaniacx4]

Best environmental story telling before Dark Souls.

[@emilhaugsbakk7281]

And after…

[@BigHailFan]

"I have a job to do. I'm not here to learn about shit." Really hate this mindset from gamers. It doesn't take effort to read a little text on scans to tell you how enemies and other things work. It's not a run and gun. Indulge in the world.

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

Yeah you’re really just skipping 75 pct of the game if you’re not indulging in the atmosphere in Metroid prime.

[@PolaireOfAstora]

Watching this playthrough on stream, it was a bit aggravating for the chat to essentially be silenced by the mod whenever they tried to hint that he missed something useful/crucial (which would reduce the tediousness of backtracking when he'd potentially come back to that out-of-his-way area) and the mod's justification was "lol, they want to spoil the whole game". I seem to recall Max having much frustration with Symphony of the Night around the time when chat was suddenly silenced when they began dropping hints for a very vague thing and he began wandering aimlessly and grew annoyed that he had no idea where to go next (he was even confused as to why chat was in emoji mode to begin with, if I recall correctly). This lack of knowing where to go in a game with reduced mobility when compared to Super Metroid seemed to impact his overall opinion of the game and could have been completely avoided. (And no, I'm no advocating for chat to spell out every location of every secret in any Metroidvania he plays.) If I were him and more conscious of the chat's activity, I would have warned that power-drunk mod for (ironically) adding to the existing confusion and helplessness.

[@Silvercruise]

Yeah I was there for the first few minutes and left immediately after seeing mods timing people out or banning for saying "scanning is important max you should scan" like bro.

[@PolaireOfAstora]

@@Silvercruise Exactly, that too.

[@Terronage]

@@Silvercruise ugh. I'd have done the same. I wanted to see him play this but if he just fucks off scanning, plays dense , and blames the game for it I'm going have to ignore this playthrough.

[@BigHailFan]

he later admitted his attitude was at fault, which props for him, and he'd take it more seriously next time.

[@Terronage]

@BigHailFan awesome. He's good like that, so I'm both bot surprised and glad to see it.

[@VelvetAura]

Max not saving at his ship and then losing over an hour of progress hurt my soul so much lmao

[@ark5074]

Every time I see him pass by an item he can get but he doesn’t cause he doesn’t notice the item humming noise, it slowly drives me insane lol.

[@DekkarJr]

at least it's not Asmongolds inventory in any game he's ever played Now that is second hand anxiety

[@tebbtebberton1007]

The hint system kicks in after a predetermned set of time spent "not getting to the next objective." Even if you're literally outside the door to the objective room, or on the other side of the map looking for bonus expansions. Only thing that matters is the time that passed

[@DrkKaiser]

Watching max play this hurts my brain. Honestly, I remember having to learn all this stuff. It's agony. But once it's with you, it's like stuck in your memory. FOREVER.

[@leonides1527]

If that ain't the fuckin truth! The moment I got my copy I immediately just knew where everything was (except like three expansions first play)

[@Ferropexola1996]

Giving DSP and Arin Hanson a run for their money with blatantly ignoring important things.

[@Glurfl]

Who?

[@d3m0n709]

@@Glurfl max

[@wolfgod6443]

Oof. If I received that kind of insult, it'd only make me dislike the game lol.

[@raptros]

Get a mirror dude...

[@SuntoryKick]

I watched a part of the live stream and it was pretty difficult to watch. Max was continually doing something that clearly didn’t work but was essentially turning on the game because of it. Love Max but I don’t think he had the right mindset for this game. It’s a shame but at least he played it.

[@5h0ckblock]

Max the only reason you didn't get stuck in the room with the boost ball is because you didn't destroy the boxes for items like every other player did. So you had a platform to get back up with. It actually had nothing to do with version differences.

[@BigHailFan]

you can't destroy them.

[@5h0ckblock]

@@BigHailFan there are multiple boxes of different sizes, only the big one takes a ton of damage. Destroy the smaller ones on top and now you don't have the height to reach the ledge.

[@BigHailFan]

@@5h0ckblock you can indeed reach the top even via just the big box by using double jump. in all my years playing prime, not once have o got soft locked in that room. it's not possible.

[@5h0ckblock]

@@BigHailFan you wouldn't have double jump you need boost ball to get double jump in the first place. And it wouldn't be a soft lock since the whole point of the room is to teach you to use the half pipe with the boost ball

[@5h0ckblock]

@@MaRaMa-ARTZ exactly, and you reach that path by using the boost ball. It's not rocket science

[@lystic9392]

Take note, also, this is one of the few FPS series in which platforming feels alright. This is due to a little camera trick right before a jump, that other FPS games failed to adopt.

[@nikkolav89]

metroid is a unique franchise that was created far ahead of his time, today is receiving all the glory it deserve. 🔥

[@twilighttiger2368]

If I had to describe the Metroid Prime experience in only one word, it would be: Atmospheric!

[@KNICKLE69]

The amount of times Max says he's not lying about never having played it... no one would have thought otherwise lmao

[@SolidSnake684]

I had a similar experience with Prime being a slow burn. Played it as a kid and thought it was very boring. Then as a teen got really into Super and Fusion, but still considered Prime not my cup of tea. Then one day while drawing I put on Prime's soundtrack and was enamored by it. Really wanted to explore its world and soak it all in after that. Prime (and its sequel) became one of my favorite games after my initial back-to-back playthroughs. So much fun experiencing a big ass adventure like this for the first time, seeing new areas like a kid in an amusement park. I look back at some old comments I made and I can't believe I was ever so lukewarm on the game, but I guess I had to be in the right mindset to truly enjoy it, and now I see I'm very much not alone in that sense.

[@klayton2307]

It's hilarious how hard he panicked to the lava pit like a headless chicken when he very much could have gotten out of it if he properly used the controls / bomb jumped out of there, I made the same mistake of falling in that same pit but getting out wasn't hard at all.

[@idiotscampaigninc]

There is definitely a thing with Prime where you don't jump as high as normal if you're against a wall. This is particularly noticable in Phendrana when getting the Grav Suit. Max just panicked and held forward while mashing jump, there's no way he could've known about the funky jump mechanics.

[@kaijuultimax9407]

The lava always kills new players because of the sheer panic that the hissing noise delivers

[@Eriorguez]

It was annoying in the original version, but since Trilogy Prime has had a spring ball mechanic unlocked alongside the bombs.

[@NuiYabuko]

Good for you.

[@DrMario-]

This was the first video game I ever played, and at the same time, my favorite video game of all time. The lore, the atmosphere, the music, the scans, the gameplay, everything. To me, this is a perfect game, and has tons of replayability. I hope you enjoy this game as much as I did 20 years ago. Seeing as how it's also your first time, I can't wait for the rage that may await in the Phazon Mines. Extra Note: In regards to the original controls, you could move and look around by jumping to carry your momentum, and if you got really good at it, you could go through a hall of Eyons and hit most of them without stopping. This goes for many rooms. The original controls still have a special place in my heart.

[@GoldenLeafsMovies]

I actually think there's nothing wrong with the original controls and are pretty good, it's just that modern controls are better.

[@rajgus7638]

I think they're absolute dogshit Those controls are why I dropped resi 1 and 2, 20 minutes in

[@NickCombs]

It's actually kinda weird that we expect the immediate area to offer progression upon getting a new ability, even in a metroidvania. It is about exploration afterall.

[@Linkenfant]

Missiles: "are we a joke to you Max?"

[@Saskidan]

I feel sorry for anyone who missed this gem back during the Gamecube days. We waited 8 years after Super Metroid and finally Nintendo delivered the goods. It was so ahead of it's time.

[@jonesygrets6029]

The fact that max took off the helmet hud hurts my soul!

[@exmo7]

It's cool how this game makes you feel like a human in an advanced power suit. The lock-on fits the vibe.

[@babytricep437]

Yeah except for the fact he turns the fucking hud elements that make it atmospheric off

[@RAGEAlanBun]

Max, if a word is highlighted in red when scanning it normally means it’s important or you can look this up for more info. I.e when it says “structural weakness detected in SANDSTONE block” you can check your inventory for morph ball bombs you’ll find they’re good against sandstone. Also, after watching the Flaaghra fight, remember you can dash when locked on, it’s probably the fastest way to dash around between solar lights.

[@phoenixlich]

The scanning and exploration are my favorite part about this game. It's Samus the scientist over Samus the Goddess of War like in Dread.

[@xyoungdipsetx]

Dread is way better

[@phoenixlich]

@@xyoungdipsetx for the average consumer definitely.

[@sonicking1525]

I honestly love that nickname for her lol.

[@NuiYabuko]

​@@phoenixlich Are you some elite consumer or what?

[@boosiewoosie9215]

Not all first person shooters need an f'n sprint

[@riplix20]

Ummmm actually Nintendo calls this a “ first person adventure “ Jokes aside, there’s pretty fast ways to move in this game, and as an og halo fan I agree that sprinting is overrated

[@Relugus]

​@riplix20 Metroid Prime was pretty much the first FP game to have jumping and platforming that actually works.

[@Patrick-ho3st]

I love how Max missed the elevator to Magmoor after Flaahgra on 2 separate occasions.

[@budthecyborg4575]

3:09:49 I was just thinking of how many games were influenced by Metroid Prime and DOOM 2016 is one of the most obvious (the helmet hud, platforming style, and magnetic death candy are an obvious homage), and then I realized the Pinky in DOOM 2016 is almost the same as the "Baby Sheegoth" in Metroid, big mouth and invincible from the front, the only difference is Pinkies use a charging run instead of projectiles. And then just for DOOM 2016 the Revenant gets a jet pack and behaves like the Flying Space Pirate.

[@TheDienhart]

I want to argue every time he calls her a Metroid then I remember she is now the last Metroid.

[@NuiYabuko]

Well, she isn't during MP.

[@TheDienhart]

@@NuiYabuko I can’t argue you if your literally senseless, but your still incorrect, she still is a Metroid, doesn’t matter when or how 🫡. The statement Samus is a Metroid is a correct one. The question isn’t when she wasn’t one.

[@dannyboylan5926]

Who else started bopping their heads when that first best drop started to kick in? I know damn well I'm not alone lol. Never played a Metro game, but goddamn that song's a certified banger.

[@SquirtleEatsAll]

Playing fighting games at a high level requires fast reflexes and a keen eye to know what move is what as it comes out Max is a high level fighting game player Also Max: 1:23:08

[@MaximumCarnage-]

That intro XD! So awesome to see you playing more Metroid. I've been seeing so many new players try this and loving it.

[@esmooth919]

The good thing about scanning in this game is, not everything is important to scan. The red items are important. The orange items are not... But it all makes for some interesting world building.

[@ag9953]

This is far more than just a texture upres, nearly every object has been retouched with added geometry.

[@TurKlack]

I remember in Dread he had a hard time understanding heat as well, continually running in hot areas, and taking a good second until he noticed he was on fire.

[@KaraMooMoo]

I am somehow proud to see the opening is exactly the same way I died the first time. Psyched to watch this playthrough. ♥

[@YOFACE9999]

RIP

[@АртурМилкович]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@PeanutButterAndJellyBros]

Max doesn’t seem too enthusiastic about the game. The appreciation for it is there and that’s it.

[@riplix20]

@@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_KosmI agree with you to a point, but if you stopped following him why are you here?

[@staticshock4239]

​@@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_Kosm I mean he really enjoyed Super Metroid and Metroid Dread. He's played plenty of highly rated games and said they weren't for him (Horizon Zero Dawn and Breath of The Wild being big examples).

[@Galiaverse]

Knowing Max for so long (from videos mind you, there's a difference), I long expected Prime would be a hard sell. It's as far removed from an arcade experience as possible, it's constantly asking players to stop and read, and the dedicated FP perspective always threatens motion sickness (By the end of the night the Space Pirate lab stuff was clearly affecting him negatively). The upside to this is that he did at least experience the game a long time ago, so it wasn't completely unfamiliar ground. I don't think he dislikes it so far, but yeah I suspect the enthusiasm isn't as strong. Which is totally fine. As as much as I'd like to think "just stick with it a bit longer, you're past the worst", replaying the game this week doesn't instill me with confidence in that sentiment. ...The "gauntlet" has yet to reveal itself. Veterans know what I'm talking about. It's a late-game trial by fire, and it is _rough._

[@dart7957]

And this is so strange, I understand that he has preferences, everyone has, there are people who like 2D metroid and people who prefer the prime games, but several basic gameplay elements, that he should have already got used to, remain intact in prime, but the way he played is as if he had never had contact with this franchise before, he did not pay attention to anything, it was frustrating It doesn't seem like he gave the game a fair chance, and after seeing his positive reaction with super and dread, I don't understand why

[@Cinnamon1080]

@@dart7957 he gets easily distracted. He does not follow through with stuff in his Prime playthrough. So he gets 80% if the way, then just goes in a completely different direction than he should be. It’s weird.

[@Maryokutaizero]

For someone who plays and loves fighting games and therefore needs to pick up on tendencies, it always baffles me how ridiculously inattentive Max is whenever he plays a single player game like this.

[@Seyanoo]

He does it with some fighting games as well lmfao, there’s a old clip of him playing guilty gear xrd2 as Baiken and getting slaughters by a slayer, he then proceeds to say “Look how hard I have to work for my damage" which really shows you how much he barely knows about the games mechanic.

[@NuiYabuko]

It baffles me that Gamers think people are without flaw. I'd like to see you playing something on stream.

[@ob1slam]

There were so many things he missed to scan. You miss out so much of the game's lore.

[@KaraMooMoo]

"I know game design. It wants me to go this way." One minute after running by the elevator to the magma area instead of scanning it. XD [With love ♡]

[@Flintolerable]

"There's been no saves since then" 😆you gotta reuse em!

[@shooter0404]

I think this game requires a bit too much reading for Max

[@starapton5374]

This was the game that got me into video games as a kid. Although I never beat it. Metroid Prime left a mark on me. Now that I have a switch and some free time I think that it’s time for me to beat it 😊

[@ricardomendoza-oy8mp]

So did you? I just beat it yesterday for the first time ever. I couldn’t beat it as a kid neither.

[@starapton5374]

@@ricardomendoza-oy8mp Just beat it last night while watching arc finals. Glad I waited to play it when I did. There’s no way I would’ve been patient enough to beat it a few years ago

[@vivil2533]

As a huge metroid fan who sadly missed out on playing prime. I have been loving the remaster. The camera, and aim are definitely a little cumbersome, for me. I mostly play fast pace fps on pc. So aiming with an analog stick is awkward. Also although I didn't have as much trouble as max, the scan visor is easy to forget about. You can be to busy, looking around with your eyes, and taking in the beautiful environments that scanning things slips your mind. I also don't think of using the scanner to solve puzzles. When I got to those doors, that requires you to scan the symbols on the walls, I assumed you need to collect items so I got stuck and felt stupid after only getting the ball, missile, and bomb. I did use the scanner in those rooms, but some how managed to not look at any of the runes on the walls. Maybe cut Max some slack. He's not much of a puzzle guy, and he's suffering from the "mental tax" streamers and let's players suffer.

[@progste]

There is a modded version for pc which lets you aim with the mouse, you could try it for prime 2 after this one.

[@UncleBashface1]

I would kill for Fusion to be remastered in the same style as Dread

[@LordEmperorDean]

Scanning is most of the game and it's how you connect with the planet, creatures and makes the game even better, especially with the Pirate Data! 😁

[@saramarie9091]

*save rooms literally everywhere* "I hAvEnT sEeN aNy"

[@samy29987]

I saw Max's streams of this beloved game of mine a couple of times on his twitch channel and here are my personal thoughts: After playing Super and Dread, he grew to love the IP because of mobility, game flow, combat and discovery. I think he approached Prime with this in mind and that ultimately hindered his experience because the game was designed in a different way. I think he wanted the game to allow him to flip and dip, run around and have crazy mobility options as well as fleshed out and cool combat sequences. Prime is none of those 2 things. While mobility and combat sure are there (and they are serviceable at best, not denying that) the game is more focused on exploration, on taking your time, on looking around, solving puzzles and inspecting the world, scanning anything and everything that might be of interest and overall charting the world. It is a slow, methodical and very atmospheric game from a first person camera. And I don't think that style really suits Max's tastes. That's why he said: "Scanning takes me out of the game" when he landed on Tallon IV. Scanning IS the game. On his stream he gave Prime a 8/10 because he respects what the game accomplished 21 years ago, but the backtracking, the lack of save stations/checkpoints, lackluster combat/mobility + the blurry thermal visor really hindered the experience for him. He even mentioned that if the game came out today exactly the same as it did 21 years ago, he would have given it a 7. And while some of the criticisms are definitely warranted (looking at you thermal visor and mobility/combat, ugh), some of it is lack of adapting to what the game is asking of you instead of brute forcing situations that he may find more exciting. I thought he would love it, but I guess not all great games are for everyone. And that's ok. At least he tried and appreciated it. Hopefully Prime 4 improves on those things so he and many others that share his view grow to like the Prime formula because to me it's absolutely fantastic what it brings to the gaming world as a whole. We rarely see first person "shooter" games focused on atmosphere and exploration. The game is almost flawless in my eyes because the game excels at what it set out to do, but there is 100% room for improvement since it aged in a couple of areas and that's where Prime 4 can capitalize on.

[@colingraham4877]

Yeah it’s a little disappointing that he didn’t fall in love with it like he did Dread or Super. Prime is much more about atmosphere and exploration, and not so much intense action. I do agree that some of the backtracking in Prime is excessive, but I’m glad that Max is at least enjoying the game enough to finish it even if it isnt a knock outta the park like the other 2 in his mind.

[@wodensthrone5215]

The UI/HUD needs to be customizable in Metroid Prime 4, so people like Max and I can remove most of it

[@Silvercruise]

Nintendo direct: "visors and scanning the environment are very important!" Max: "how bout I don't scan anything?"

[@samy29987]

​​​​@@colingraham4877 I don't think he is going to finish it, to be honest. The backtracking gets even more intense in the late game (if you know what I mean, aka artifacts). And also, the later bosses are tough for players that barely have any missiles and that's the case for him. If he continues he will struggle even more and knowing he isn't enjoying himself too much I think he probably just moved on already. I really do hope Prime 4 improves on the backtracking where there might be more than 1 option for progress at a time and perhaps more mobility options on top of cool combat abilities like a counter or a dash or a quick kill, etc all things that were there in Dread while keeping that atmosphere and immersion that we grew accustomed to loving. We will see.

[@samueljonasaltuna31]

@@wodensthrone5215 Um... The HUD/UI is totally customizable, you can even remove it altogether if you want to.

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

Just seen Max's stream vod where he finished the game. I'm sorry to hear you didn't like it all that much. And it gave you motion sickness. The game isn't for everyone. I also didn't like the game all that much the first time I played it. I remember getting frustrated and getting lost and my first playthrough taking me around 18 hours. Especially when it came to finding the chozo artifacts. But by the time I got to the ending when you have all your abilities and traversing the world becomes easier and more fun I came around on it. And it was only when I went on to play prime 2 that the pace of the game really clicked with me and I understood the vision for what the game was trying to be and the proper gameplay loop and from that point on I really loved it. And my second playthrough of prime 1 was an absolute blast. For me it's a game that gets better every time I play it and having great knowledge of the map just means I can focus on really finding all the secrets and enjoying going from point a to b crit pathing and trying to beat it as quickly as possible. It really is a fantastic game but it definitely takes some time to see it. And I've beaten it like 7 or 8 times now. And every time I beat prime 1 it always leaves me wanting more and wanting to move on to playing prime 2 straight after. There really is no other game like it. And it makes me glad that it is a trilogy as as a package the trilogy offers up so much content and all of it put together is some of the best games I've ever played. Prime 4 has alot to live up to.

[@ProphitDesigns]

Yet another NIntendo video where Max keeps blaming backwards controls despite the fact that Nintendo established the ABXY formula first and only then did Sega and later Microsoft flip the controls on everybody. lol

[@joshuacrow5642]

Max you need to start paying attention when you unlock power up

[@melon3109]

does he ever notice the "A" button prompt to read more on the scanner screens? Edit: he does! 3 or so hours in. Someone else in the comments pointed it out with a timestamp, forget who.

[@joshuamagruder2241]

Yessss. Prime 1 and 2 have been my favorite series since the gamecube releases. Now I get to live vicariously through max 😂

[@Zack_Wildfire]

2 is hard to get people to play 😅 but if I've been given an opportunity to play it I'll give it a try.

[@joshuamagruder2241]

@@Zack_Wildfire echoes is in my top 3 favorite games ever. The first being Bloodborne. I definitely feel that it's hard to get people to play it. But once they do, it's a wrap.

[@BigHailFan]

3 is my fave

[@BigCowProductions]

I've never played Prime. Any of them 😯 Hearing how everyone talks about it, I think I'll have to dive in myself

[@wellhellotherekyle]

I’m not sure how he couldn’t get out of there at the first. I fell in there so many times and managed to get out just fine lol

[@Mannwhich]

Probably struggled too hard.

[@thajocoth]

There's a lot improved here, but when a scan has multiple pages of text, the 'A' button prompt is not nearly as clear as it was back on the GameCube. The 'A' below the first page of text blends in too much in this version of the game... I've seen several people at this point just miss them.

[@StephenCinAZ]

2:20:03 - I had no idea that spring ball was in this game. 0_0 I'd only ever played the original Gamecube version before, so I always had to do the regular double bomb jump.

[@swordmaster009]

That’s because it wasn’t in the original game. It was double bomb jumps for us vets! Lol

[@HRDP21]

This is not the kind of game that Max enjoys. I am actually surprised he didnt quit the second time playing it because he was very frustrated with the backtracking and other things in the game. If he manages to get through the final Fetch quest, he will end up hating the game. This is one of my all time favorite games, but it is definitely not a game that I would recommend to Max.

[@BlindOracle00]

the game also demands 100% of your attention. blind playthrough plus talking to chat is a recipe for disaster.

[@Cinnamon1080]

@@BlindOracle00 and with the way he tends to play. By “overthinking” things, he gets really distracted and frustrated.

[@ZombifiedBuizel]

About that fetch quest...if you know ahead of time you can get most of the items as you progress instead of at the end when you need to do it. It's worse in Prime 2 honestly because you are forced to wait until the end of the game to do it.

[@RokushoTheRavager]

​@@ZombifiedBuizel Yea true, I love Echos which not everyone does, but being forced to go back and grab the 9 Sky Keys that you cannot in any way acquire beforehand unlike the Chozo artifacts, is annoying tedious bullshit. I do absolutely agree with the Metroid fanbase on that, 100%.

[@FifthOfNovember_Original]

Does he ever figure out the buzzing noise that means there’s a secret item nearby?

[@RokushoTheRavager]

So far as I'm aware, he's made it all the way to Phazon Mines and still has not yet figured it out.

[@zynux8252]

Yes, right at the end during the Chozo Artifact Hunt, he noticed items make noise when you are close.

[@2sallads]

*turns off helmet hud* 🥲

[@RElNHART1]

Not sure if you reed these Max, but with that half pipe area where you first got boost ball. the boxes you climbed on are destructible and usually give you health/missiles. so if you blew them up, the only way back up was via the half pipe. but since you didn't blow them up. Boom, easy way out. Hope you're enjoying the game.

[@Seiyol]

It's a bummer that Max doesn't seem to be digging the game that much, but I can see why somebody would find aspects of the game not-to-their-tastes if they were especially taken with Metroid Dread. Prime is slower-paced, encourages you to scan around for context, there's a lot more opportunities for backtracking, and the action isn't as finely-realized. I love both games though, and I think I love Prime now more than ever after playing through Remastered. Does Max ever realize that scans often have multiple pages to them? I originally stopped watching when he kept closing the scans too early, and there was no end in sight of that lol

[@snatchr2451]

He figures it out about 3 hours in but he still skips most of them

[@Mannwhich]

@@snatchr2451 Took him that long? He went on for awhile about how almost everything was scannable, but then proceeds to... NOT do that! Like, what???

[@leandrozanchin]

A hint to Max - scan first, read it through, then shoot. I really don't think the puzzle with the door in the first Phendrana area is a problem with the game, although, I would strongly suggest to Retro in case scan is part of MP4 to provide the more relevant information in the first page of the scan or make it more obvious that there is important information in the next pages of the scan to avoid this kind of situation.

[@vevans0009]

Its strange how he took time with Bloodborne lore reading but just skips on other lore from games.

[@swordmaster009]

No this is a Max problem. The game is being atmospheric with the text to be more engaging. Most of the time the relevant info is the first page or so, with bosses having more. Like the blast door incident. I don’t care what anyone says, that was absolutely ridiculous. And he couldn’t even admit that he was being dumb. The game already shows you on multiple occasions that scanning is important for info. Not mad at you btw, it’s just annoying as all hell to watch, I had to take breaks.

[@quillquickcard8824]

Trying to play Prime and Prime 2 while adamantly not scanning almost anything is a really great way to have a miserable experience with the game. While most scanning is for simple atmosphere, it also usually hints at the solutions for nearly any puzzle

[@quez2564]

The way I see it, classic controls pre-dual analog is like growing up and having to drive stick. Yes, modern controls are better all-around, but it's really hard to forget the muscle-memory of plaing the OG game 20 years ago.

[@lutherheggs451]

Sony literally innovated controllers with the Dualshock controller on the PS1 in 1997....Metroid Prime came out on the Gamecube in 2001....There was literally nothing stopping Nintendo from designing the gamecube controller to take advantage of the Dual analog stick method Sony created.

[@quez2564]

@@lutherheggs451 They actively chose not to, since Prime shouldn't be vieed like a traditional FPS; the Gamecube controlle had dual analog, but it didn't suit the gameplay.

[@Dliciousization]

I'm like an hour in and I'm starting to become slowly convinced that he will finish the game with 5 missiles. It is fun to watch someone playing it for the first time tho haha.

[@samueljonasaltuna31]

He finished the game with around 100 missiles if I'm not mistaken. At least a bit more than 5 lol

[@HealyHQ]

The way he missed all the scans with multiple pages. :(