Max's SoulsBorne Tier List: Best Of Souls & Blood

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[@captainstrangiato961]

Max: “This [list] shouldn’t take long.” Also Max: *puts Bloodborn in Best tier and looks at the list* “Hmm, This is gonna take some thought...”

[@Mr-Lister]

It is the way

[@Ladazotz]

As it should be

[@flamingmanure]

@@Ladazotz nah, bloodborne is boring next to sekiro imo. could only stomach its one color scheme and lack of environment variety for so long...sekiro is lightyears ahead in combat and world design. max can compare the soulsborne series combat to action games all he wants, the combat in sekiro, while not as good as nioh or dmc, still destroys soulsborne's. feels like max and alot of ppl wanted another rpg from miyazaki. im glad he disagreed.

[@Ladazotz]

@@flamingmanure true that in combat it is not nearly as complex, but I feel like it hits the right balance of variety, simplicity and action. Yes sekiro dose have it's own ninja tools at the end of the day its main weapons is just a katana, yeah he can do alot with it but I would rather have options. Plus personally I prefer the whole slimy, diseased lovecraftian horror aesthetic to the samurai inspired one even if it can be a bit one note at times. On the topic of which I also feel bloodborne wins out in terms of lore and story, both in depth and thematic. I like how it evolves from a curse of were wolves into a conspiracy of men trying to harness something fundamentally greater than themselves, thus incurring the wrath of those same ancient, eldritch horrors I suppose its realy what your looking for in a game, personally I prefer bloodborne but to each there own

[@raygengamer8440]

sure everything else after the obvious top pick is tough.

[@BreadMakerCTM]

The Dark Souls of Tier Lists

[@Beautifulconnyxime]

Out. Now.

[@flamingmanure]

*rolls eyes* at this point this meme is far worse than the "just like dark souls!" shtick that happened over a year ago.

[@LermaBean]

@@flamingmanure That's why it's funny

[@christopherjm21]

😝

[@Alexandergoat123]

😐

[@MikeCatrone]

The feeling of discovery when finding a new location in any souls game was just incredible

[@ivanleon6164]

agree that sound effect with the location name when you first enter is amazing!

[@BasedChadman]

Ask Lake was absolutely breathtaking. I wish 3 would have made more use of vertical space like 1 and 2 did

[@thedankgnasty1890]

@@BasedChadman either way, I honestly think that 3 was probably the best of the trilogy, but that's just me.

[@chrxs61632]

I fell ds1 had this feeling the best

[@chrxs61632]

I fell ds1 had this feeling the best

[@adamh509]

I'm doing my first playthrough of bloodborne, and just the mechanic of "more insight, you see crazier shit" is just amazing

[@nekochan1692]

Have fun, its a masterpiece and I wish I could experience it for the first time again 😃😔

[@BronsonFan111]

I’ll never forget discovering Amydala on top of the church. That scared the living shit out of me.

[@paulollarsabaiii9824]

Soulsborne Tier List: *begins with Bloodborne music* This is the way

[@carlosg8103]

This is the way

[@allekid]

This is the way

[@redocykuron]

This is the way

[@solomon9655]

This is the way

[@stephensporman8206]

This is the way

[@disposableincome]

As a fan since Demon Souls, all I can say is Bloodbourne is a masterpiece. I mean, they all are, but Bloodbourne just resonates with me, man. The existential horror is just such a perfect fit to Miyazaki's world building and story telling style.

[@lms4l797]

Bloodborne was a blast to me it was a one of a kind game its the reason that got me to the soul games yeah i feel its hard that fromsoft release a game that tops it

[@carlosg8103]

Agreed

[@jaredmartin7040]

Dark Souls 2 is the only one that isn't a masterpiece, still a great game though

[@lucasjm7378]

@@jaredmartin7040 In fact, all Dark souls have production problems because of Bandai, they were all rushed to launch the game before. That's why Bloodborme is so complete, because it was Sony and not Bandai.

[@jaredmartin7040]

@@lucasjm7378 All of them were rushed? I didn't know this

[@PR1ME98]

I loved sekiro specifically because of the combat. The other souls games(excluding bloodborne) were just wayyyy to slow for me. Parry/deflect based combat always felt more engaging to me and landing that last parry that beautifully flows straight into a deathblow is so damn satisfying.

[@AccelSternritter]

But it gets too repetitive. Dark Souls has a great variety of weapons, and magic attacks that makes every character different, that's why it's superior.

[@ivancarlos4951]

@@AccelSternritter but slow

[@hamzahussain7359]

@@ivancarlos4951 depends honestly on your play style. Theres a lot of patience but if your really good at strategizing fight like in pvp. Its definitely top tier

[@whenallelsfails21]

@@AccelSternritter for 1 magic breaks the game 9times out of 10 so no one actually uses it much and its superior just because of variety alone? What about quality over quantity, i know for a fact none of the weapons in any of the souls games have the amount of polish and refinement that Sekiro offers with one weapon. Adding weapon arts and all of the charms/ prosthetic weapons makes for some insane combos that blow any dark souls game out of the water. Ive never enjoyed combat more than perfectly timing every deflect to destroy the posture of an enemy 3 times my size and while off gaurd kill them in 1 hit. Makes you feel like your the boss at the end of it, as compared to bloodborne/darksouls where you're just lucky to survive some of the bosses. Look up someone perfecting ishiin and look up someone perfecting gherman or loc. Tell me which of those is more satisfying to watch.

[@ssantos88]

@@AccelSternritter Repetitiveness is something that all From Software games suffer after you get the hang of their games. Is not just Sekiro.

[@ivanleon6164]

level design of dark souls 1 is a masterpiece, above everything else.

[@locoattack1210]

Minor correction: WORLD design. The levels themselves are great, but they way they connect in a logical and satisfying way is phenomenal. I still remember discovering that shortcut back down to Firelink and how cool that felt.

[@Skegfromcraigslist]

First half, yeah

[@sugarcubeofsalt8645]

@@Skegfromcraigslist 2nd half still great

[@sugarcubeofsalt8645]

Only izalith and tomb of the Giants are stinkers

[@amongallothers]

What I took away from this is that each game is worth playing. That's saying something.

[@advanced8998]

From software is legendary

[@YourDevastator]

Yup!

[@sod0m]

All of them. Even the ones that the community shits on from time to time are better than 90% of all other video games out there.

[@GoldenMushroom64]

@@sod0m that’s a fat lie

[@GreatRaijin]

​@GoldenMushroom64 no he's right, dark souls 2 is better than most modern games

[@OldHunterRage]

Came here to see Bloodborne at the top of the list. Was not disappointed 😁

[@jasonlaviolette1096]

This is the way

[@kevgreen3064]

@Dame Dane Dameno it’s not that good compared to bloodborne

[@aidenallen5922]

Bloodborne isn't as good as Ds1 Ds3

[@yourdaddy8605]

@@aidenallen5922 preach my dude, I think bloodborne is phenomenal don’t get me wrong, but DS3 will always be my personal favorite, every single boss was epic, great music, I remember every single boss, there was an insane amount of weapons, Magic’s, pyromancies, etc, and the story and maps were absolutely incredible, i remember defeating the soul of cinder and hearing the last words from the game “thou still hear my voice still” or something like that and I was just like “holy shit that was an incredible game”

[@creativename152]

@KeknovI just got BB and everyone is praising it. What should I expect? Does it have a good story? I like stories and long ass grindy games.

[@nekuchan900]

Ngl seeing DS2 last makes me sad, but I've accepted this fate when I decided it was my favorite

[@wpb5876]

DS2 is my personal favorite too and greatly underrated but too many people don’t give it a chance

[@Meracog]

Base DS2 is great.

[@eliasbonafe9236]

Hey, here a Ds3 fan! (well, I'm fan of every game made by From but Ds3 is my fav) Well all I could say is 1) I feel you. There is a lot of hate towords Ds3 so i can understand what you feel. 2) don't worry. I also think Ds2 is not the best, but now most of commumity has forgiven it and so do I. Now is pretty much liked by everyone :)

[@smokesphere]

WPB you can thank scholar of the first sin for that. SoTFS royally screwed up DS2 but it's the version of the game most people played through because it was cheaper than getting base ds2 plus dlc

[@Dravianpn02]

Also my favorite. Needs some work butstill. Very very charming.

[@thecorrected7401]

For me, I appreciate Demon's Souls for its levels. There's no impossible space in Demon's Souls. It's like there's 5 mini dioramas that you're moving around. Take the Shrine of Storms for instance, when you're finally at the Beach after killing the Storm King, you can look back with the binoculars and trace each individual pathway that you took to navigate your way down there. We don't have magical elevators taking us to Bowser's Castle like Dark Souls 2. If you look at each world in a model viewer, you can see exactly how each one connects to itself and I feel like that was lost after the first Dark Souls (even that got a little funky at times with stuff like Demon Ruins and the Arch Trees in Tomb of the Giants.)

[@mikemiles2241]

BOWSER'S CASTLE LMAOOO

[@nikitaivachtchenko6375]

One thing that sets Bloodborne above the others for me is it's lore. I have fun with FromSoft's other games, but Bloodborne is the only one that captivated me even after I put down the controller. Some of my fondest memories of Bloodborne are just sharing and discussing lore theories surrounding the game's world and characters with other people. And funnily enough, it's the only one of the five that I genuinely tried to "role-play" rather then just playing it normally. I love this game, man.

[@carlosg8103]

I enjoy that too

[@kr1spness]

The lore and world is highkey the reason why it's best, but the trick weapons are lowkey the reason why it's actually best. For how much DS gives you with weapon variety, I'd still choose any one weapon in BB and be happy to do an entire run with it over any number of weapons in DS.

[@Mr.Honest247]

Nikita Ivachtchenko What do you mean by the lore? I just loved playing Bloodborne, it was a great game for just its world and everything but it was very vague on any kind of story.

[@Adam-zw1ck]

Yeah you're a squid, great lore

[@mad-counter7393]

@@kr1spness Quality over quantity right?

[@Bonhart61577]

*Plague of Gripes will remember that.*

[@tequilawhiskey]

But this isnt dragonball related

[@nikodemossowski4621]

@@DreYeon r/woosh

[@yakumoyomi5765]

I don't know why Plague doesn't hold Bloodborne in high regard. I mean...he's obviously the one who designed Vicar Amelia.

[@adeptusastartes2720]

@@yakumoyomi5765 Plague explained his reasons for not liking Bloodborne during his lp of Dark Souls. Most of his problems are with gameplay, specifically a problem that started with the Dark Souls dlc in which the series started to focus more on speed and reactionary gameplay instead of slow and tactical gameplay. Basically Bloodborne is still a good game, but is so far removed from the original concept that it may as well not even be in the same category as Demons or Dark souls.

[@yakumoyomi5765]

@@adeptusastartes2720 Oh, I remember Plague airing his grievances and explaining his reasoning. The first sentence of my comment was simply a means to lean into the joke that "Plague love furry women" and thus he would like Bloodborne.

[@svjoehenny7021]

"I hope Elden Ring is right here". Oh it definitely surpassed expectations Max.😂

[@Ludwigaccursed260]

@@wetoddedd Max clearly stated in his review that it (elden ring) is one of the greatest games of all time. He even says its better than bloodborne as a game, but also says he "personally" prefers bloodborne. Max - "It's not even game of the year, it's game of the DECADE"

[@Ludwigaccursed260]

@@wetoddedd also objectively speaking, if we go with numbers and statistics elden ring destroys DS3, as well as reviews from KZbinrs and so on.

[@Ludwigaccursed260]

@@wetoddedd Very assuming of you, don't you think. You're practically saying that people like moist critical, Pewdiepie, Maximillian, who clearly stated elden ring was one of the best games of all time, are just saying its good just because their told it is. I get that you prefer ds3, but I got bothered with your comment that seemed like you disagree, but even max, whom I assume you watch says elden ring is one of the best games ever.

[@Ludwigaccursed260]

@@wetoddeddSo that's your logic? You're practically saying that people like max, pewdiepie, moist critical and A WHOLE LOT MORE, are people who only likes games because their told it's a good game. I mean they said they loved elden ring, and its one of the best games of all time, but I guess for you that's because of other people? Kinda assuming. No problem with you preferring DS3 but maybe next time say IMO, instead of giving of a disagreeing comment. And back to max he clearly said it's one of the best game in the decade. So the guy you commented on was right it did exceed expectations, unlike ds3, it was a good game, but it wasn't monumental like elden ring.

[@Ludwigaccursed260]

@@wetoddedd not to mention even DRDISRESPECT, who has never touched a souls game loved elden ring he gave it a 9.5

[@nolanyautz4659]

bloodborne soundtrack finna make me cry bc i wish i could experience the game for the first time again 😭

[@nekochan1692]

Geez I literally wrote the exact same thing 10 sec before reading that 😂 You're goddamn right 😔

[@Dmc841]

I personally felt like bloodborne got better with each play through and the way you master it over time..

[@muhali5136]

Dud i stoped playing the game bec its soo scary but i I swear that every time i want to play a souls game i think about blood born love it even though i cant finish it bec of its horror style and i got plat on sekiro and finished ds3all off from software games are amazing games and soo hyped for eldenring

[@yourdaddy8605]

@@Dmc841 I’m replaying it again since I never beat the old hunters and your absolutely right

[@kravmaga2466]

ive never played it and want to soo bad

[@Twocogsmontgumry]

Bloodborne GOAT. This is the way.

[@thebohaji40]

This is the way

[@chwig7354]

The way is this

[@brandonrenteria6280]

This is the way

[@Serenity-tn4yn]

Is this the way

[@carlosg8103]

This is the way

[@BlackHood_1]

Max 2020: This Is The Way

[@caiuswolf7725]

What the

[@Francesco-wi1ut]

The Maxilorian

[@naomangaka]

He has spoken

[@hasthehighground8560]

@@Francesco-wi1ut Benny is baby Yoda

[@galio7741]

@@hasthehighground8560 This is the way.

[@MrMikopi]

Thank you Max for your comments about Dark Souls Difficulty. I always hesitated to start these games, because they are "just hard". But I feel your comments were insightful. Thanks!

[@Nico-gd2pn]

Bloodborne my favorite game of all time. I enjoy the rest of them, but even then again, whenever I okay the others, I just want to go to Bloodborne again...

[@samgomez9942]

whenever I okay the others

[@Nico-gd2pn]

@@samgomez9942 I said, what I said...LOL! I'm going to assume I meant to say Play.

[@unpingouinsurlabanquise4574]

I love bloodborne, sekiro, ds1, des and ds3 so I don't know what to play between those games

[@soanthegreat]

It’s so weird how I feel the exact opposite about a lot of what you said regarding Sekiro. Now I love all these games but to me personally Sekiro is an absolute masterpiece. I was never really compelled to try ng+ on the souls games (always preferred to just start a new character since I feel a lot of the fun comes from trying a completely different build) but in Sekiro I ran through all the ng+ cycles and had so much fun with them. I’m not sure what it is exactly but something about Sekiro’s combat just feels so fucking perfect to me and now it’s just my zen game. Had a stressful week and I have a couple hours Friday evening I don’t want to do anything? I’ll just sit down and run through a playthrough of Sekiro

[@xEvollution]

I feel the same way, never had any fun going ng+ on dark souls (but I started a ton of new characters). Sekiro I ran up to ng+5. It was really fun challenging myself, each run trying to up the difficulty of the game (bell demon, kuro's charm, not using prosthethics). Fuck headless though, especially the ones underwater only managed to kill them one time.

[@aboredburrito5010]

I’m in agreement but funnily enough I feel that for most people Sekiro increases their stress rather than reduce it:)

[@somethingsomething9006]

My biggest problem with Sekiro is the utter lack of gameplay variety and how the combat feels the same from the beginning to the end. In the other souls games, I'm playing the game differently in every single conceivable way by the halfway point. Be it magic of any kind or weapon, but in Sekiro I got to the Owl and realized that I haven't changed a _single_ thing about my gameplay. Gameplay is incredibly important to me.

[@zerosolis6664]

@@somethingsomething9006 "I haven't changed a single thing about my gameplay." I just want to point out that Sekiro isn't supposed to tell you to change it up. Its on the player to make use of the different prosthetic tools, how they can work and play off of different enemies/bosses, Bestowal Ninjutsu, all the different combat arts (which, most of them are actually pretty good, have their own uses and strengths and weaknesses) making use of ceramic shards to distract enemies, fistful of ash to stun even bosses like corrupted monk, using oil to make sure an enemy burns when you use the Flame Vent, using the candies for stat boosts, etc. There's a lot in Sekiro it just focuses on quality with the options you have rather than having all these different options that aren't actually viable. I love DS3 but in general having too many different weapons with all basically the same way to play (hit R1 until it dies, maybe block) isn't the way to go. Magic is fun as hell though yes, and weapon arts in DS3 are great. But yeah. Instead in Sekiro it focuses on having the entire combat system revolve around your main weapon, and the other options you have. I'm not saying you have to like Sekiro, just explaining it.

[@somethingsomething9006]

@@zerosolis6664 Oh, don't get me wrong. I completely understand the design philosophy behind Sekiro, and you explained it very well. It's not that I want the game to tell me to change it up, I just want the ability to choose to do so. My problem with this system is that it heavily relies on you liking the weapon you're stuck with. What if I didn't like the katana? For the record, I didn't care much for the katana after a couple hours. I wanted a different weapon, or at least a different moveset. I think gameplay progression, and the ability to diversify your gameplay is infinitely more important than having one weapon, regardless of how good it is. Nioh did this amazingly. All weapons have completely different moves with a good sized move list, AND there were lots of magic and ninjitsu to choose from. If you combined the weapon/combat of Nioh with the movement, scale, and world of Sekiro, just think of the level of diverse gameplay it would allow!

[@Darkyan97]

In my opinion: Bloodborne is a masterpiece, everything is exceptional. (EDIT: although I have to admit PvP was it's weakest part) Dark Souls 3 had the best bosses overall. Dark Souls 2 had the best PvP Dark Souls had the best level design and NPCs Demon's Souls had the best atmosphere. Sekiro had the best combat.

[@carlosg8103]

Agreed

[@The2808erik]

Ds3 pvp is much better DS2 pvp is broken. Best boss had Demon Souls because you the player could become a boss to challenge another player.

[@AlynRapi]

definetly agree, but which has the best story? i would say probably bloodborne too

[@2oleaves843]

Also Agreed Dark Souls 2 PvP was awesome! Dual Wielding!

[@soracool1234]

@@The2808erik Yeah player boss is cool and all (also DS3 has a player boss fight as well) but, that's still not beating mechanically and visually interesting fights like Abyss Watchers, Namless king, Lothric twins, Champ gundyr, etc. Not by a long shot.

[@MoonfeatherWildkin]

Huh. I have the exact opposite opinions of Sekiro when it comes to NG+. Unlike the souls games, it is impossible to see all the available bosses in Sekiro in one run. I was far more excited to start a Sekiro NG+ than I ever had been in Dark Souls because you actually make meaningful narrative decisions that change which bosses you end up fighting and I wanted to see where the different path went. It was super cool to me.

[@Kira_Official_]

You only miss two bosses depending on if you choose Shura ending or not, but I get what you meant.

[@MoonfeatherWildkin]

@@Kira_Official_ Shura ending causes you to miss 6 main bosses, non-Shura ending causes you to just miss 1

[@kami4242]

​@@Kira_Official_Unless you were using a guide there's a very high chance you'll miss the second Owl fight too. If you didn't get the bell from Emma before defeating the Divine Dragon you cannot fight him until NG+ He's easily one of the best fights in the game and worth another playthrough

[@Indian_Ross]

You can also play charmless in NG+ and that makes the combat 10x better imo

[@natedawg910]

Max: *places bloodborne in S Tier* everyone knows this is the way Mando: _This is the way_ Me: *This is the way* We have spoken.

[@dravendfr]

The Max, the Mondo, and the Miyazaki.

[@LucasMartins-dy6no]

Why this shit is exclusive :(

[@RainingFlow19]

@@LucasMartins-dy6no it pays for the console

[@user-vf3cb7vk8z]

I would have put Sekiro in the Amazing tier behind DS3 but his list is pretty close to mine.

[@coldramentpm1013]

cringiest shit i ever read. grow up

[@MOOFLAB]

I’m excited for Elden Ring. Wish they’d release a gameplay trailer

[@xBigBlackWHALEx]

gameplay trailer might ruin a boss or an area if done poorly... has fromsoft done something like that in a previous release before?

[@rlira0908]

I doubt you could even imagine it

[@justabot0756]

look up in the sky.... *IT BURNS*

[@herbg4866]

The comment has aged like fine wine

[@dropkickpherby6994]

OOOOOOH, ELDEN RING

[@AlbertoKostner]

Sekiro is amazing.

[@herbg4866]

Just platinum’d it!

[@mauriandlaw]

Phenomenal game , ranked number 2 in my personal list behind bloodborne which is my favorite game of all time. I put 500 hours in it.

[@Vexion03]

Dark souls 1 will always be a masterpiece to me

[@RobertEdwinHouse9]

If we ignore lost izalith and tomb of the giants

[@loganroberts1582]

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 tomb of the giants is fine when u have a light source, actually I think it’s quite good

[@solidsnake9898]

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 Tomb of the Giants is awesome

[@RobertEdwinHouse9]

@Jojo Tarro i did they still suck

[@YouJustAmazeMe]

8:40 DUDE YES! The way the worlds unravel is so good, I will never forget playing ds1. I went into thinking it was overhyped and just wanted to beat the "hardest game", and unlocking shortcuts was one of my favorite parts. Love the way everything flows there

[@vahlok1426]

Dark Souls games aren't the atypical hard, they're challenging. And yes, there is a difference.

[@iterationfackshet1990]

Vahlok142 yep, but you’ve gotta admit blood borne is the best, it challenges you but is rewarding, they wanted to get away from the turtling but instead of what Xcom did with timed missions they rewarded quick aggressive combat, and overall playing the soulsborne series like that is extremely rewarding

[@Brandonious15987]

@@iterationfackshet1990 Bloodborne is my favorite but I think DS1 is objectively the best. Des has the best boss variety. DS2 has the best pvp. DS3 has the most polish. Sekiro has the best platforming and level design. DS1 weaknesses aren't as strong as the others to me.

[@MrZabersuv]

i think this guy needs to stick to fighting gamrs because when he talks about anything else he sounds like a moron with no clue what hes talkin about

[@kr1spness]

Like a fighting game you need to learn mechanics and not autopilot before expecting progress. Soulsborne can be R1'd and run through to get you by most of it, but the first non-tutorial boss is usually harder than the average boss in everything except damage so you practice mechanics. Once you get them down it's easy, you just might have to spend an hour on a boss if you're not careful.

[@iterationfackshet1990]

Brandonious15987 the thing is bloodborne took the best things from every game at that point and expanded on it, plus it’s much more creepy. It has the excellent bosses and world design of DS1, the good pvp of DS2, the excellent story telling and world building of demon souls. It’s combat is objectively the best of the games and it built the groundwork for DS3.

[@diogoarez9574]

Imo despite having only one weapon Sekiro was the one I replayed the most, I love parry in games especially Metal Gear Rising so I quickly fell in love with Sekiro. Bloodborne still the GOAT tho

[@dannyboi5887]

Sekiro's combat alone IS it's replay value as far as I'm concerned

[@Lakross101]

Funny you say that cuz I love parrying and BB is the game that taught me how to. Sekiro is dope but parrying with a GUN?! So cool.

[@conk3rryan422]

I'm with you! Sekiro is the only Souls game I got the platinum achievement and I would do it again, if I had the time.

[@Pickle_Pee]

@@dannyboi5887 yea I disagree with max about the combat being repetitive. just go watch good players and its pretty varied what you can do. I also love that there's no stamina management, im getting pretty tired of that formula. i like how in Sekiro you can stand your ground instead of dodging everything and there's a rhythm to the combat, you can be clued in to when to go on the defensive from the sound of the blades clashing. while not as replayable as the other titles imo. the replay value comes from unlocking all the different moves and endings

[@robnickerson7819]

1. DS3 2. Sekiro 3. Blood borne 4. DS1

[@iljarogozhkin3381]

Sekiro had different bosses on different endings. And the other reason for multiple runs is that you can try out new skills and play the game without kuros charm and with the demon bell.

[@hivanberg3681]

thank you a man of culture

[@Szanth]

The game actively punished you for trying to use the skills and prosthetics. If at any point you weren't attacking or deflecting, you were at risk of being suddenly punished for being unable to attack or deflect in that instant. New Game Plus didn't change that.

[@AndyMacster]

Sekiro had zero replayability compared to every other FromSoft game (in my personal opinion) This doesn't mean you can't replay it, it means theres little reason to beyond replicating your initial experience.

[@GrahamChapman]

@@Szanth "The game actively punished you for trying to use the skills and prosthetics"? What are you talking about? Shuriken can take out groups of weak enemies before they can even see you and the Chasing Slice skill make them great at closing distances; the Flame Vent can absolutely ruin enemies with high Posture recovery; the Axe is just plain good -- especially once you've upgraded it so it's burning: throw some Oil on the enemy and learn how to apply the Fang and Blade skill correctly (ergo, don't spam it) and it can actually replace the Flame Vent; the Firecracker and Umbrella are outright game breakers that can trivialize some of the hardest enemies in the game; the Spear's Rush attacks are some of the most cost effective ways of messing up an enemy's Vitality and Posture; Divine Abduction trivializes Senpou Temple and quite a few other enemies, and the Malcontent makes the Headless and O'Rin complete cakewalks. On the skill side of things; after the patch they got a bit more viable (mainly thanks to reduced Emblem costs). Mikiri Counter is pretty much a must-have; Vault Over can, in combination with Bloodsmoke and/or Puppeteer, become a game breaker; Whirlwind Slash can carry you during the early game; Shadowrush's leap deals as much Posture damage as a Sweep counter jump; Ichimonji is, of course, one of the best attacks in the game; Ashina Cross, though a bit situational, is a good way of closing distance; Praying Strikes - Exorcism is chargable and not too shabby; High Monk is like a Mikiri Counter against Sweep attacks and Mortal Draw can just plain wreck. Are you sure the problem isn't that you just plain need to git gudder?

[@Szanth]

@@GrahamChapman There are niche uses for them but generally speaking the game actively wants you to be parrying and attacking, and in my experience the unreliability of stuns and the extra amount of time taken to perform the moves (and whatever token cost they incur) don't make them more worthwhile than just doing a few normal strikes, with the exception of Ichimonji for posture recovery. Senpou temple is already a cakewalk, you can run past everything, you don't need a prosthetic to do that.

[@heisocean344]

Max, you and your channel is one of the most genuine and pure spots on this site. Your enthusiasm about the fighting game community and the video game community at large is infectious. Thanks for the great content

[@Burning_the_toast]

this is super wholesome wish he could see it

[@jacaanthony]

@@Burning_the_toast yup

[@BottleWaterson]

Maximillian Dood's top 6 From Soft games, number 1 will SHOCK you.

[@Serenity-tn4yn]

LOL. I couldn't believe my eyes.

[@pingpong5877]

It's Armored Core: For Answer BABY!!

[@ricecakejohnson]

If you play Demons souls after Dark Souls, then you would probably give Demons Souls a worse score then DKS. If DS was your first souls game, then it will always have a special place in your heart!

[@jamaalcooper225]

I agree. Demon Souls will always be my favorite one because of that plus I liked the atmosphere more than any of the others.

[@17thknight]

Yup, DS had way better atmosphere

[@purpledragon2442]

I really wanna play demon souls but it looks hella fun. Bloodborne just never clicked for me. I know people love the more lovecraftian style horror but I’m way more into the fantasy aspect.

[@Amrehlu]

Nah, played Demon's on release day, and enjoyed it, but it is far from having a special place anywhere near my heart. Demon's Souls is an okay-ish game that people should play if they can, but shouldn't worry about it if they can't.

[@Adam-zw1ck]

Demon souls was my first and yeah I loved it at the time but I can't go back now. Every time I try I realize how absolute garbage the controls are. Remaster will be excellent though.

[@Deadforge]

This is a fantastic ranking video plus kinda a review on the series and genres as a whole.

[@scnoz1430]

I think playing the charmless run really changed my perspective of the gameplay loop in Sekiro. Since you take significant chip damage when blocking, the parry system because a bigger risk since if you parry, you do more posture damage, but if you miss, you take shit ton of damage on top of posture, so you are given a decision between dodging and parrying, and that really diversified the game, and amde the gameplay infinitely more immersive. In ng+ runs, bosses that were a cake walk for me before became extremely difficult since blocking was pretty much the equivalent of getting hit.

[@jackswanson8096]

Agree. This same thing happened to me when trying charmless

[@bowskiaws5432]

Out of all the Souls games i've played, Demon Souls was actually the one I liked the most.

[@Sinrus1]

Demon's Souls is a trip.

[@velvetcrowe5548]

Demon's souls was the one I liked the least.

[@SuperArppis]

What you liked so much about it? :) I'm just curious about your opinion.

[@bowskiaws5432]

HUB world was cool, the linear levels didn't make me feel lost, each level had an unique and memorable atmosphere, story wasn't too hidden from the player, i liked the crazy gimmicks bosses had and exploration was rewarded. Combat and leveling up sucked, and the game is really frustrating, but I liked it a lot.

[@SlingingHashSlasher]

hipster

[@MrMetalforever5]

Bloodborne was the first game I bought with money I earned from my own paycheck. Fast forward five years and I have the hunter’s mark tattooed on my forearm and it’s still one of the best games I’ve ever played.

[@Adam-zw1ck]

🤦‍♂️

[@Athalwolf13]

Should have been the neck. For obvious reasons.

[@GrahamChapman]

@@Athalwolf13 Why? Because "Berserk"? Urgh, gimme a break, Griffithumper; the Hunter's Mark is a much more obvious allusion to "The Hanging Man" of the Major Arcana Tarot than it is one to "the Mark of Sacrifice." =___=

[@Athalwolf13]

@@GrahamChapman perhaps borth are derived from it. Honestly I dont mind

[@crashbandercoont7270]

Adam K F off Adam

[@zakuguriin4521]

Gotta do the updated Soulsborne tier list now that we have Elden Ring and the Demon's Souls remake.

[@CrossXM]

Now we need a boss tier list

[@Mithrie]

These games kicked my butt so many times. 😂

[@dominikdesjardins1456]

Man you did great with this even tho I have Demon souls at the top of my list ahah... Tower of Latria still haunts me. The world itself makes it my favorite.

[@rlira0908]

was Demon Souls your first?

[@dominikdesjardins1456]

@@rlira0908 yes it was!

[@aidenallen5922]

Demon souls was my last I enjoyed it but my 2nd playthrough was much less

[@larsgrosse644]

Sekiro has THE BEST NG+ when you get the option the return Kuro's charm.

[@TheScotemalan]

Didn't do a no-charm run until my 7the playthrough, I realized how much I had skated by on imperfect parrying

[@Hinaatje]

Amazing vid max! I love all soulsbournes and have my hours in those games by having the platinum trophy for ds1, ds3, bloodborne and sekiro. I love all. But bloodborne and dark souls 1 are my favorite. Keep up your epicness as always!

[@flowa2024]

500+ Hours in bloodborne what made it realy my favorite soulsborne game is the dlc, weapons, bosses, leveldesign, music everything was just perfect

[@SilverFoxR]

One thing I have to give credit to DS2 for... it's DLC was amazing. They did a lot with it. And remixing it for Scholar of the First Sin was a good move.

[@lycancowboy1989]

also having altered enemy placments and new enemies and events in ng+ cycles. Also powerstancing allowing you to use custom combos of weapons as a paired unit, but not everybody likes that one.

[@Al-ji4gd]

No, they weren't lol. The DLCs in DS2 were almost as bad as the base game. Also, Scholar ruined just as many things as it improved.

[@travispizinger8173]

“Can’t have too many tier lists” I would watch a Max Tier List on a weekly basis! I trust and respect your opinions on games.

[@TheCreepypro]

this is hilarious after years of being told to play the souls games I finally started playing the first Dark Souls I just finished Blight Town and beat the boss spider woman in one try without dying I am loving this game when I die I am never mad I just take it as another opportunity to learn hearing max talk about the rest of the games just has me more hyped to play them

[@bishermartini4533]

Love that attitude. Wish I were you right now playing it for the first time 😂

[@matheus666]

Finally someone who doesn't go like: "hurr theres no lore ds2 is the worst" And actually praises the game for what it did good

[@blackvalio4060]

Which is almost nothing

[@jonteguy]

@@blackvalio4060 If you compare DS2 to games outside of From Software it's a good game, it uses the foundation of Dark Souls which is enough just gameplay wise to be good. It's not unfair, the world is a bit boring but that's honestly it? Isn't it? Like Max said combat in DS was never like "WOW this is such good combat!" Combat in DS2 is very similar to DS1. More so than DS3 is to DS1.

[@TaigaGaoo]

Finally? There's been so many videos and posts online throughout the years that explain really well why DaS2 was so bad as a Soulsgame out there and almost non of them mentions the lore as one of the main reasons. So what are you on about? Furthermore, Max doesn't even defend it. He gives no reason aside from weapon variety and that the combat feels nice. Right after he goes on to say the levels suck, the graphic suck and the bosses suck. Which contradicts his "good level design is one of the things that make Soulsborne games good" So.. what? Him ranking DaS2 the same as Sekiro and Deamon Souls, despise saying 90% of the game sucks straight up makes 0 sense. Sure, as a stand alone game, it's not bad. But it's not a stand alone game, is part of a franchise and it's undoubtedly the worst in said franchise.

[@toxicbergers]

if you treat the lore as more self contained or at least in relation to dark souls 1 as a new cycle then dark souls 2 felt great and aside from that pvp which was fantastic the overall game was still solid idk why people trash the game so hard especially when the dlc was imo fantastic and just added exactly what the game was missing in terms of levels and locales

[@rock4471]

For real

[@justinparisio898]

IMO sekiro is tied with bloodborne, they’re completely different but equally as amazing

[@marshalleldergill4007]

I honestly agree

[@TrinidadSuperman]

I love sekiro but I think the lore isn’t on par

[@marshalleldergill4007]

@@TrinidadSuperman true, Bloodborne's lore is just mental in a good way because of how much of it there is.

[@Joker-nh6dd]

I love bb just a smidge but sekiro is my most replayed game of all time, I've played it 4 times and loved them all

[@17thknight]

Sekiro's combat is fucking ass, the "stealth" is terrible, it has no builds, no stats, piss poor progression, a boring ass world. I've platted every Souls game and Sekiro was the only one where I hated every fucking second of it. It's such garbage.

[@kurtrdbsh]

I'd dig a Soulsborne game marathon sometime, would be super cool to see you revisit all of them :D

[@MrSmartGuy21]

I have never come into one of these tier list videos and had the exact same opinion as the video, but you have changed it. I'd have Demon's and DS2 in the OK category, but the exact same order. I'm actually amazed.

[@pipehelix5776]

8:55 when you go past wolnir to irithyll

[@joshuapark4329]

If Sekiro had multiple weapons for replayability it'd be in amazing at the very least. Skill tree is cool, but it just doesn't entice me to play again.

[@ggrinky11]

My replay value is on PC with the boss rush mod. That shit is fun as hell. The bosses in Sekiro for the most part were amazing. Trying out different combat abilities and prosthetic arts is fun as hell for me. That’s what was always lacking in souls, weapons had limited move sets. People have been making combo mad videos of Sekiro. Then again can’t say that’s a fault of dark souls, the game is more focused as an rpg where Sekiro is more action.

[@blackneotheone2978]

Also they needed a customized character mode at least different color pallet dam he look the same way the entire game which makes me not want to replay it again

[@dowfreak7]

This is just another reason people will always bash Sekiro. And it's the same reason many DS players sucked absolute major ass when first playing Sekiro. Sekiro is not Dark Souls. It's not *supposed* to be constantly replayable. It's got a finished story that it tells and you can pursue some extra skills and other endings if you want, but ultimately it's not made to be a constantly replayed game over and over. People cling way too hard to "I need more weapons, I need more armor, I need to customize my character" and completely forget the point of the game is exactly that it's NOT supposed to be like that. You have a set character, with a set weapon and armor set, because the game is not about "your own journey"; it's about the Wolf and Kuro.

[@QuestionQuestionMark]

Phazz completely agree, the ending isn’t obtuse at all. It’s meant to have definitive beginning middle and end, that end....that’s fucking it. It’s not about the players journey as you said, it’s not about crazy builds, it’s about the story. That’s what’s he most important.

[@ggrinky11]

@@dowfreak7 Agree, the one thing they could have added from some replay value would be superbosses, or a native boss rush mode. I would love a 7 phase ishiin or 7 phase owl with new attack patterns.

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

For me, Dark Souls 3 is the best overall for me. I absolutely love it. Bloodborne has a better atmosphere, and the story is more amazing for me, but the variety of weapon's, spells, and builds of Darksouls 3 is tremendous.

[@jokeronline702]

I’d agree, with Sekiro at second

[@arcticwolf6402]

If that's what makes a SoulsBorne game for you, then Dark Souls 2, objectively, has the most variety of weapons, spells, and builds, etc. Also, Dark Souls 3 - compared to DS1, Bloodborne, Sekiro, even Demon's Souls and DS2 - is just REAAALLLLYYY linear...

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

@@arcticwolf6402 the level design and enemy design in DS2 was trash. Worst of all the souls game by far.

[@RobertEdwinHouse9]

@@TypicallyUniqueOfficial yeah ds2 is garbage it feels like a fan made game

[@thedankgnasty1890]

@@arcticwolf6402 really? I didn't think it was linear at all when I played it.

[@doubleg100]

Dark souls 1 is such a masterpiece. this was the first game which really engrossed me without even really trying to tell a story but I loved the lore. Playing eldeb ring now

[@MickSG.]

I honestly one hundred percent agree with this tier list.

[@dragonhitman1071]

Wasnt sure how I would of rated em but Max's feels right and the explanation for why comes super close to how I feels. Lol

[@sm1ttywerb]

I was coming here to disagree with him but he got it perfect lol

[@Adam-zw1ck]

You're all morons and I haven't even watched yet

[@blyat8832]

3 would be the worst in the list i can already tell

[@samuraispartan7000]

Ironically, Dark Souls II was the game that introduced me to the series. At first, I thought it was a mind numbingly difficult exercise in tedium with no real purpose or direction. I tried to will myself through it, but I just couldn’t stand how obtuse the game felt when I first played it. When I decided to give it another chance, I came across a NPC that I had completely missed in my first play through. That little discovery opened my eyes to the game’s hidden treasures and I quickly acquired a greater appreciation for the experience. It may pale in comparison to some of the other Soulsborne titles, but Dark Souls II is still a fantastic game in its own right and several times better than most of the Soulsborne imitators out there.

[@Deathtank75]

I agree, it was my first DS and it holds a special place in my heart!

[@spandytube]

First for me as well. Fell in love with the game and while I can see where it fall short for fans of the first game, there is a lot to love and is still damn good.

[@ritamajumdar3759]

dude same omg i hate when people disregard ds2 just because its sluggish or whatever... for me ds3 was the worst.

[@captainclod5269]

My first game as well. Majula will always have a special place in my heart and the damn vague sense of direction really prepared my patience for when I got DS3

[@manquail2361]

I just beat dark souls for the first time recently. Other than that I've only played bloodborne but I'm VERY interested in the rest of the series now. Even with a lot of admittedly obnoxious issues or design choices at times ds1 is one of my new favorite games of all time.

[@Shlimedawg]

Sekiro was a blast whenever you get a chance. Perfect amount of rage and satisfaction learning to master the combat system. It’s does rely a lot on parry but most the variety comes from utilizing the prosthetics and figuring out which will be most effective.

[@sod0m]

If you liked DS1, but felt that the combat was I little clunky and the world a little too obtuse, you’re going to love DS3.

[@giovanniprovost]

PLAY. BLOODBORNE.

[@herbo87]

I love listening to you just talking about games.

[@staticshock4239]

We all know Bloodborne is S tier

[@flamingmanure]

not really. i would say b maaaybe A-.

[@u.s.e.r2376]

@@flamingmanure lol no

[@NoU-pf8fc]

Demon Souls remake is gonna outrank Bloodbourne lol

[@u.s.e.r2376]

@@NoU-pf8fc Maybe

[@u.s.e.r2376]

@@NoU-pf8fc Although i've never tried demon's souls, But alot of people say it's harder than dark souls, The only thing i know about this game is the amazing soundtrack, I wanna download this game on an emulator and play it

[@msab4883]

BB is SOTN of this gen, it'll be classic many years from now

[@AlynRapi]

yes bloodborne is the 3d castlevania we never got, but deserved 😭

[@bobtista88]

Sekiro is amazing tier but I suppose the lack of main weapon variety drags it down slightly but combat never felt boring. And also Sekiro is the only game in this list that wasn't ruined by Bloodborne to me. DS3 to me got ruined by BB I just wanted to play BB so I just powered thru DS3 so I could return to BB lol.

[@OFather_of_Giants]

Soul-borne-ekiro isn't meant to be difficult they're meant to be satisfying

[@dionshelby5494]

Soulsborneekiroring

[@S1KSOW]

While Dark Souls 1 will probably always be my favorite. Because it's the one I started with and fell in love with, I would put bb second . Game was the reason I got a job and a ps4 lol

[@michaelpodgorski1692]

OG Dark Souls has the best map, how it folds in on itself. Demons Souls still has the best characters and lore. It's bosses are better than most others.

[@Heavy_Controller]

Idk how no one thinks dark souls 2 isn't similar to that. At the beginning of the game you can run all the way to the rotten

[@Odie50000]

@@Heavy_Controller Right??

[@kylele23]

enward lover bro cause Souls 2 map is all over the place. Walk through a misty forest gate and there’s a storm on the other side that turns off when you walk back out of the gate. Take a metal elevator up from a poison valley to an elevated molten castle. There’s rarely things as jarring in Dark Souls 1 save for things getting weird when you turn off Anor Londo’s sun which is optional. Something like the painted world would’ve just been some area you walked to in souls 2 rather than being a self contained area for not fitting the geometry like in Souls 1.

[@Not3xactly]

I always felt like the bosses in demons souls were way too easy and way forgettable

[@damienjohn]

I remember playing DS1 at release and wondering why more people weren't talking about it. Weird to think about that now considering how hugely popular these games have become.

[@johns783]

I just love Demon's souls. The atmosphere is just the best in the series, bar none. It gets my top spot, even without playing the remake. Then Bloodborne, DS1, DS3, and DS2 at the bottom. I've not played Sekiro yet, but I'd bet it'd fit behind DS1 for me when i do based on what I've heard. I've actually put more hours into DS2 than any other game in the series, though. Due to how absolutely fabulous the pvp is in that game. Made to last. So despite it being lowest on my list, just need to say, I still loved it.

[@Skorbutt]

I'm replying to your comment one year later, because I totally agree about Demon's souls. I'm currently playing it (emulated PS3 version) , after having played every other FS Soulsborne game, and I like it better than Elden Ring. As you said the atmosphere is incredible. I don't mind having a hub, every level is dense and has its own mood. I got really bored with ER because of the travels. DS1 still has to top spot in terms of world design because you combine demons souls tension with brillantly interconnected levels (well except Lost Izalith but everyone knows that). It's crazy how innovative Demon's Souls was. Combat is dry af, not many options there but the levels man, the atmoshpere, the constant tricks the game is putting against you, I haven't felt this obsessed with a game since DS1. Having to manage your equip AND item load seems like a chore, but it forces you to make choices which I like. And we kinda lost all that with ER in my opinion, which sometimes felt like a boss rush with boredom in between.

[@michaeljaysutherland1016]

Tower of Latria - the area max liked the most in DeS - is actually pretty much the “this is what we want to this game to feel like” that FROM focused on for Bloodborne, from what I’m told, and boy was that a good ass decision

[@AB21]

Sekiro moves to amazing tier and this list is perfect.

[@bloodchron1880]

Funny watching this video after he played Elden Ring and said it is one of the greatest games of the decade haha! So glad it was so good

[@dovhakiin57]

Perfect list, no complaints.

[@Matt-hb7tu]

2 is actually my favourite of the trilogy. Loved the hub area, bosses and pvp

[@DamianC]

How do you feel about Demon's Souls remake now in this tier list?

[@gustavobarron2948]

Such a good list

[@CapitalP177]

1 year later, this is still a great list

[@lukesimmons3323]

Let it just be said that demons souls has pioneered the most interesting boss fights out of all of the games I think. Leading strong with the old monk, what other game lets another player become the boss fight? The dragon god boss had you using harpoons to make him bend the knee, Tower of Latria's resurrecting boss and a tower knight. Garl Vinland and his devastating mega club protecting Astrea who is actually a good person instead of the twisted horrors that attack you first.

[@StargazerKI]

Spear of the Church...

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

The dragon boss was awful.

[@zezqi_]

I don’t understand how people call sekiros combat boring and repetitive when in all the other games it’s just dodging and attacking.

[@AlujaBING]

Because you attack and dodge differently depending on your gear and build, you don't have that in Sekiro other than prosthetics.

[@Athalwolf13]

I assume because in Sekiro the main way you deal with enemies is just...well. Attacking and Parrying. Occasionally you sneak attack and sometimes you use prostethics. I think Dark Souls 3 has the same problem as Sekiro, with simply smashing r1 being usually the best tactic

[@mthsdcs]

The other games have at least some variety

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

Sekiro's combat starts out very fresh and interesting for soulsborne players but quickly becomes dull when we realised it's just a rhythm game, where most people didn't even care about the rhythm and just block dance.

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

@Burst Your Bubble Yea which is why Nioh is considered to have the best combat system out of all soulslike games, it's the closest to a 3D fighting game. It has cancels, combos, perfect guards, parries, counters, and full control of your stamina bar. Soulsbourne games are all literally don't get hit, hit it till it dies, with the most generous I-frames for dodging.

[@Dreasmond]

Very good list I agree with almost everything you said. The only thing I'm kinda conflicted is Sekiro because even though it's repetitive it has the best learning curve of all the other games in the list which in my opinion would grant a place in the "Amazing" tier. I also found very exciting the idea of playing without Kuro's charm in NG+ to activate cheap damage and force you to deflect with perfect timing. Overall very good video.

[@MrNineties]

Just came to this video freshly off of finishing your Demon's Souls PS5 playthrough and I feel like you need to do a new tier list. Maybe wait til Feb for Elden Ring and then do another one. Good stuff. I'm on to your Bloodborne Lore Run now. It get's me through my work days :D

[@Ingeniousleo85]

I’ve not played all of them yet so for the ones I have played, I think SEKIRO is a masterpiece in combat and controls with some of the best boss fights in games. BLOODBORNE is the most atmospheric one them with good combat and also some great boss fights. Dark Souls 1 is a masterpiece in level design to the likes I’ve never seen before, but those boss fights are much too fast and too easy. I got to play the other games in the series eventually.

[@etherwxlf]

No lie, haven't played a Souls game outside of Dark Souls. It was amazing when I played it. Online shenanigans is fun.

[@etherwxlf]

@singularon1 I would definitely like to, at least when the next "legit" Souls game release. The reason why I fell away from the first is because eventually they lost control of the multiplayer experience. 😹 Hackers galore!

[@LycanDreams9159]

What do you mean by a soul game outside of dark souls. You have played ds3 right? Or bloodborn

[@aagh8714]

lucky you got to skip like a year of feeling dry for elden ring Kontent

[@pievancl5457]

I’m watching Max’s first playthrough of sekiro- the VOD is being uploaded on a max fan channel now- and he’s loving the game. I’m not sure if the game wasn’t fresh in Max’s mind when he did this list, but he was REALLY loving it while playing. He still ranks it great here, but I’m curious if he forgot how much he raved about it while playing it. He was drunk/fatigued for much of the game it seemed, so that may have clouded his memory.

[@jayliu6239]

My list with the addition of Elden Ring: 1. Elden Ring 2. DS3 3. Bloodborne 4. Sekiro 5. DS1 6. Demon's Souls 7. DS2

[@redocykuron]

The great thing of Sekiro is the jump hability. Just imagine dark souls with vertical level design, been able engage bosses with all directions.

[@blackneotheone2978]

Thats cool i hate sekiro for not having any customized character colors just making ur character look cool is a great asset to a game like u made your own character

[@blackneotheone2978]

@@yesyesyesiknowiknow so sekiro isnt a action rpg

[@matthewphillips1890]

@@blackneotheone2978 lol they just added skins. Shura makes ng+ worth.

[@majeedmamah7457]

Much as I disagree with this list, I respect your opinion. At the end of the day it's about how the games makes us feel. Personally my list would be Masterpiece: Bloodborne, Dark Souls Excellent: Darks Souls 3, Sekiro Great: Dark Souls 2 Haven't played: Demon souls, Elden Ring_yet.

[@GrahamChapman]

Elden Ring better be excellent at the very least to make up for how silent they've been about it for the last half-a-year. Vaati can't keep our ER hype up all on his own, we need some effin' content soon, Miyazaki!

[@MrRadiantMan]

Sekiro is a masterpiece and imo the best game that fromsoft have ever made due to the incredible combat and the most consistently good bosses followed by bloodborne which is also a masterpiece

[@herohunter81]

7:15 Ever heard of the roll out of the way gimmick? Yeah Sekiro makes you stand there and take it. No running away. “Hey where are you going?!” SMASH!

[@Exeternal_Beyonder_Of_Doomsday]

Never knew the day would come to this

[@ULi1991]

"IS THE BLOOD MOON"

[@Spicypuff]

"I think the next best game after bloodborne is DS3" Damn straight. Both bloodborne and ds3 have been some of my favorite games in the past years and pretty much solidified my love for souls type games.

[@MODDED7]

Bloodborne has a great ng+ with the different endings the game has and also Sekrio has a great ng+ too with like 4 different endings that are pretty crazy when it comes to the storyline.

[@MichaelBrown-gk5be]

I absolutely love that into so much

[@isthatsquid]

"No 3D Game Dot Heroes?! Come on MAX!"

[@CristianMartinez-zc3xu]

Hey max, I know you draw before. I do like to draw. How did you get better. What are some tips, and consideration to get better. I like to draw anime, want to draw cars, robots, environment, and settings.

[@patricioaravena6015]

I'm not a pro or something like that now, but I started drawing 8 years ago. I progressed and get better, just drawing... Draw things you like, take your time, don't rush and try to be the "best". Study a bit, draw a lot!, observe your previous drawings and try to recognize the mistakes your did, don't get frustrated, just try to learn while your drawing!. Brain and hand connected!. For study I recommend you this book, Figure drawing design and invention by Michael Hampton and proko youtube videos for anatomy drawing, even if you want to draw anime, caricature, etc, knowing anatomy helps to drawn things that looks right for you and everyone. And this book, Perspective made easy by Ernest R. Norling, perspective helps a lot with no organic things like robots, environments, and everything!, and study your favourite artists too!

[@andreburrasch]

Having played every souls (except demon souls im actually going to play it right now) ive never been more excited about a game than with elden ring, i cant wait for the whole amazing cycle ive experienced in the dark souls series to repeat again and im hyped af

[@Dumsys]

DarkSouls 2 was my most pvp fun souls of all. I feel u

[@SpookySpaghettii]

0:37 context? (the art)

[@12tranoke51]

How can Max say Sekiro's gameplay is repetitive when other damn souls games is basically dodge/block and stab all the time. Sekiro and Bloodbourne are without a doubt the very best. I don't agree with him putting Sekiro in Great.

[@justinsmith5582]

Because the other souls games have a large variety of magic and weapons to change it up. And wildly different stat builds. Your great shield blocker is going to play wnothing like my mage or someone else's fast rolling estoc fighter. In Sekiro you don't have that. You have essentially the one build and skills that you basically HAVE to take like Mikiri Counter with a few small choices. I would put Sekiro in "okay" tier. It tried a lot of new things, which is always good to see. But they almost all just really sucked.

[@ivanl.8054]

@@justinsmith5582 it's really the same thing though. It's all the exact same shit with a different coat of paint. It's dodge and attack. Doesn't matter if you have a great sword, straight sword, are blasting fire, or summoning soul lasers. It's all the same thing no matter what weapon or armor you're using. You have to adjust VERY slightly because of range and speed but that's the only diversity. Thats not to say the combat is bad. I think it's very fun and a perfect system for that game. It's really impeccable honestly. But the same applies to Sekiro. To just say it's boring or repetitive because it's parry and attack with the same sword is very childish. Of course it'll sound uninteresting or repetitive when you say it like that. But you can do that for all the games. That's really not a good argument to say Dark Souls is deeper because it has more weapons when they all do the same thing. Deal damage. At least Sekiros prosthetics have effects and abilities that ACTUALLY change the game. Shurikens to instantly close gaps. Firecrackers to stun. Umbrella for difficult deflects and reversing projectiles. Fan to turn enemies around. Whistle for picking off during stealth. They do different things besides "Do damage but my sword is massive." "Do damage but it's fire." "Do damage but it's a crystal orb." Sekiro has just as much variety if not more than Dark Souls so come off it man.

[@justinsmith5582]

@@ivanl.8054 "Shurikens to instantly close gaps. Firecrackers to stun." You can do those things in DS2. You also have lots of different status ailments that change how you approach enemies. You also can do even more across the range of spells available in the multiple different types of casting. It is amazing seeing all the big Soulsborne streamers like Lobosjr drop Sekiro after a couple months because it was out of ways to play almost immediately, while they still run Dark Souls in unique challenge runs to this day. Lets see the "firecracker only" run come out of Sekiro.

[@ivanl.8054]

@@justinsmith5582 yea because they actually designed the way to be challenging. You can't cheese sorcery to the end that's why you can't just use firecrackers. And it doesn't matter if they ran out of ways to make content. The game isn't an RPG and a lot of people forget that. You aren't meant to replay it again and again and again. But if you chose to you could because the gameplay is fun. Like Dark Souls. But even Dark Souls is the same thing again and again. Whatever no hit or special weapon run they do its literally just avoid attacks and attack but with different coats of paint. I don't care if you're sl1, can't get hit, or throwing only firebombs. It's the same meal but with different sides. And you might say "Sekiro hardly gives the option to change those sides." Well that's fine because again it isn't a damn RPG and also the meal is perfect as is. No need to do it again and again trying to change it up when the way it was the first time was already perfect

[@justinsmith5582]

"The game isn't an RPG and a lot of people forget that. You aren't meant to replay it again and again and again." Then why does it have multiple new game plus tiers and multiple endings? "It's the same meal but with different sides." How wildly different those sides are has always been one of the primary draws for the franchise. Maybe you don't feel they are that different, or don't care for it, but it's still one of the main selling points for a lot of fans including Max apparently. Sekiro doesn't have that variety in sides, so those fans who enjoy that part of the meal will not be as happy with it Trying to deny that the sides exist though is nonsense.

[@Oblivion420]

This is the way indeed. Bloodborne was the first game I played by them and I was obsessed for the first 2 weeks or so. Beat it in that time and have been grinding NG+ ever since. I'm working on Nioh rn and I'm liking that honestly

[@iannordin5250]

Sekiro and Bloodborne had the best tone and lore. Both felt like you were going on a spiritual journey