What the Modes Really Sound Like

[@maxkonyi]

Check out the follow-up video for an explanation of what's happening here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHq0aqyhn7tjh8k

[@puttsky7]

What this really highlighted for me is the importance of tone and instrumentation in music. The fact that this was all played with the same instrumentation made the differences between the modes much more subtle to my ear. A very cool video though regardless, thank you

[@maxkonyi]

Yeah that's exactly the idea here - keep every element as static as possible while only changing the mode. This prevents other factors from being associated with the modal sound.

[@randomlifeunit]

​@@maxkonyi I love that, thank you!

[@2clau]

Amazing! Thank you so much for this. It's hard to hear modal nuances off a paper. The Lydian one sounds like Frodo is about to jump out of the bushes.

[@maxkonyi]

lol. Glad you liked it!

[@AntechamberAE]

My ears perked up at 0:49 hearing that sharp 4. So beautiful. Same with 1:11 with the i > IV.

[@ogreer]

No locrian 😢 thank you for this video !

[@murftown]

Fantastic illustration of the modes. I love how you translated the same little composition into each mode. Great composition and arranging

[@panagope]

Excellent very intelligent demo! You are an Incredible high quality teacher!!

[@maxkonyi]

Ah thank you 🙏🏼 Glad you liked it!

[@JRW66]

Brilliant! Best demonstration of modes I have come across. I would imagine how cool this would be if combined with the same movie scene. Thank you!

[@maxkonyi]

That would be cool!

[@mynmyself]

no locrian?

[@maxkonyi]

See the follow up video for an explanation about that!

[@Baskl757]

Thank you for the video. It was hard to find a video just showing how they sound without a long explanation that I didnt need.

[@Andysmusicaljourney]

Well, this was the first time that I actually grasped the idea of modes, and you did it without speaking at all.

[@Collect-AI]

This is great. Would be helpful to see the chord progressions below.

[@maxkonyi]

True! Should have put that in the explainer video. In that follow up video (linked in the description), you can see the MIDI for the Magic Mode (mixed mode) bit...

[@FrioVentus]

Excelent demo! This is actually nice idea for songs. 1 song contains all the modes. Just like LIFE. X_x Magic Mode: Maxolydian

[@maxkonyi]

Thanks! Maxolydian = Magic Mode 😂

[@eviculum4518]

Woah that was sick … loved the magic variation and I really liked the darkest major

[@Joyeusecolombe]

Short but fantastic video. Sounds beautiful. Looks beautiful. Very explanatory and useful without an gram of blabla. THANK YOU! ❤

[@sandrocavali9810]

A rising star (this guy)

[@imaginableAudio]

I cant get enough out of Phrygian, reminds me of like lord of the rings or some kind of DND vibe with high tension

[@cornodk]

Beautiful music and illustrations!! Thematic resemblances with Elgar’s Enigma Variations here and there.

[@maxkonyi]

Much appreciated 🙏🏼 I'm not familiar with Enigma Variations...I'll take a listen!

[@Aedhon]

great job, thanks for this!

[@alexblickhan5175]

Lmao poor locrian

[@danielsohail]

Awesome explanation Max! Thank you for sharing this❤❤

[@maxkonyi]

My pleasure!

[@elijahBES]

Hello dear Max Really enjoying and being blessed by your videos ❤❤ About this video i get to have 2 questions Would absolutely love it if you answer😉 So my first question is Are you using parallel modes or relative modes?! I guess they are relative modes, beacause in relative modes the key does not change, but i just wanna make sure about it I may completely be wrong tho, i really don't know !! And if you're using the parallel modes, what will happen if you use the relative modes, will it be wrong? Or sound bad for some reason !!? And if you're using the relative what would happen if we use the parallel modes?!!will it sound bad?!! Or alot different? And the second question is The last mode, you called it "magic", im really confused, what do you mean by "magic" im just giving it a guess maybe you meant the locrian mode but still just wanna make sure God bless you brother have a great day🙏🌹

[@maxkonyi]

Hey! Happy you're enjoying the videos. In case you don't know, there is a follow-up video to this one which goes into some of the theory and composition of the track. 1). Parallel modes. Each mode ends on some kind of point of tension which then resolves back to the same tonic at the start of the next mode. Hearing the modes in parallel allows you to hear the differences more strongly since you've actually hearing new pitches each time instead of hearing the same pitches while changing the tonic. 2). "Magic mode" is a term I got from one of my teachers, W. A. Mathieu. It's essentially the free use of all parallel modes at once, which means it's possible to use all 12 notes without leaving the key. So you can think of it as being the entire chromatic scale centered on some particular tonic which gives meaning to all other pitches. Hope that helps!

[@elijahBES]

@@maxkonyi thank you Max for sharing this knowledge that you got with us It actually helped me to understand the concept of modes more !! God bless♥️🌹🙏

[@maxkonyi]

@@elijahBES My pleasure! 🌞

[@maxime5693]

Excellent job Max, and nice melody & arrangements also. Congrats!

[@maxkonyi]

Thank you 🙌

[@jazzydan101]

This is awesome! Well done.

[@maxkonyi]

Thanks!

[@annavod11]

What a great idea! Thank you very much!

[@chandandharana7492]

Just the video I was looking for. This and the ear training one helped me a lot, you got a sub

[@maxkonyi]

Glad you enjoyed them!

[@davidsummerville351]

Well done, thanks.

[@Bassic778]

Thank you for this!!!!!!! Beautiful music!!!

[@maxkonyi]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@anonimoiv7150]

Thanks for this interesting video. I'd like to ask: considering that the melody touch the second degree of the scale just in the very last note, the version with frigian mode is basically the same of the eolian... because this last short note at the end it is not really strong end present enough to make feel like we are in frigian. Am I wrong? Or there is also some significant change in arrangement? And also I would like ask... why for show the different "color" or emotional environment of several modes u decide to don't end the melody on the tonic, don't you think that end on the first degree of the scale could help to confirm and clarify the mode in which we are? Maybe also considering that in church modes the first note of the a modal scale was named in latin "finalis"🤔... indeed 😉 Thanks in advance to Max and whoever would be so gentle to let me know what think about it.

[@maxkonyi]

Hey, I responded to the first question via another comment you wrote but I'll paste it here as well: Good question - even though the 2 only appears once in the melody, it appears many times in the harmony parts. All of the parts change to reflect each new mode, so we are hearing all the notes of each mode many times, spread across all of the instruments, while the tonic is maintained. That's what produces the effect. For the second question: Each example ends right before the tonic chord and melody note appear. This is because the following example begins on the tonic. Each example leaves you hanging until the next example begins to resolve it, but it is resolved into the new mode. Your idea of including the tonic at the end of each example might make the modal feeling stronger, but I prefer the experience of one mode modulating into the next like this. Artistic choice!

[@devanshroyal8372]

This is a great demo! So just to get this straight, only the notes that change with the mode have been shifted and the rest remain as they are?

[@maxkonyi]

As much as possible. There are some cases where was a G, let's say, in the original (which is also in every other mode here) but that is now an A because the chord had to change at that part to keep the tonal center in focus. Beyond that, everything stays the same.

[@imaginableAudio]

Just wanted to let you know, this helped me a lot. I am studying modes for jazz and hearing the differences helps. Really enjoyed how you made clear comparison. I love phrygian lol Btw, you ever played baldurs gate?? Your composition sounds just like it. It's soo cool

[@maxkonyi]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. I haven't played Baldurs Gate but I did buy the enhanced version recently and am looking forward to trying it. I also have BG 3 on the wishlist...

[@anonimoiv7150]

Maybe I am wrong but ... but I would like to ask: considering that the melody touch the second degree of the scale just in the very last note, the version with frigian mode is basically the same of the eolian... because this last short note at the end it is not really strong end present enough to make feel like we are in frigian. Am I wrong?

[@maxkonyi]

@@anonimoiv7150 Good question - even though the 2 only appears once in the melody, it appears many times in the harmony parts. So we are hearing all the notes of each mode many times, spread across all of the instruments, while the tonic is maintained. That's what produces the effect

[@truth_beauty_love]

So beautiful and inspiring bb, I love it and can’t wait to work these out on flute and learn from that 🙌🌞💋 Thank you for these gems, you’re so wonderful 💎🌟💎

[@maxkonyi]

Can't wait to hear it! ✨💕✨ Always appreciate your support and love completely 🙏🏼

[@truth_beauty_love]

@@maxkonyi ✨💫🌸🌞🥰

[@econojazz8158]

excellent!!!!

[@maxkonyi]

Woo! 🙌

[@gasperettiarts]

So cool 👌

[@trevorc9051]

I'll be honest, listening to this without the video I could not tell you one from the other

[@maxkonyi]

If modes aren't something you've experimented or looked into very much, it may be unclear what aspect of the music is changing. Some people will find it easy and obvious, others not. With some consideration and study, it will become clear...

[@trevorc9051]

@@maxkonyi I'll have to look into it more, I can tell you near any mode if you play it outright up and down the scale but when it's in practice I have a harder time catching on, I love this kind of stuff though so to the research I go

[@maxkonyi]

@@trevorc9051 Nice! It's an awesome area of music to explore. You'll be glad you did

[@chrisrussell1318]

That was really cool Max! Really illustrated the feelings the modes set. What is the sound library you used? Sounded so good. 🎶

[@maxkonyi]

Thanks Chris! I used BBC SO from Spitfire. In the follow up video I show a bit of the production side of things

[@chrisrussell1318]

Thats why I asked. The one that was free? I have that and everything just sounds so good. I'm happy with it. When you mixed it down did you add any extras like compression or eq? Thank you

[@chrisrussell1318]

I'll check out the follow up

[@maxkonyi]

I'm using the pro version here actually. And yes, I've used a number of plugins throughout the mix. The strings are all compressed individually and as a section. They are also EQ'd and have Fresh Air applied. All the instruments go through the master as well which has a bunch of processing. Maybe I'll do a video taking a look at the mix

[@chrisrussell1318]

I really need help with getting my mixes better. Can you suggest some things I could work on to get better? I get projects done and I feel the end result is just never good enough. Thanks for all you do man🤘❤

[@AmitCB1]

Wow!

[@commitdubs]

I learned nothing. But I enjoyed the listen. Thanks.

[@maxkonyi]

lol excellent Have you seen the follow-up explainer video?

[@commitdubs]

@@maxkonyi No, only just found out about it. Will check it out

[@sofoklessantorini1888]

wow... how nice is this man,,,,,

[@maxkonyi]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@el-bov8034]

M I N D B L O W N !

[@quinn28]

was the last one locrian or did the b5 just not work for this?

[@maxkonyi]

The latter! All is explained in the follow-up video. You can check the pinned comment...

[@filipedecastro4718]

That's cool, but to be honest I didn't feel the mixolydian that much, that b7 sounded melodicaly at some point? for me the melody sounded pretty much like Ionian, although the harmony was there I know. But I am use to some music that is much more explicit on that mode.

[@maxkonyi]

Yeah it was an interesting challenge writing a melody that could be adapted to all modes. In some I had to lean on the harmony more to bring certain degrees forward since I was not 'able' to change the melody besides conforming it to the mode. However, I definitely get the mixo feel when taken altogether.

[@filipedecastro4718]

@@maxkonyi I think I still dont associate mixo that much with his Harmony. I am Very used to baião music in Brazil, and Melodies are very clear mixo, sometimes lydian/mixo or Dorian as well (like blues mixo with added #4 or b3 ) and It uses the b7 as a recitative note a lot, always stoping on It and repeating.

[@filipedecastro4718]

There's a music from Guinga that IS a perfect example of the mixo b7 b3 feeling... Its called "Chá de panela" it's a song he did for Hermeto Pascoal. Melody solphege goes like: Do(1) Mi(3) So(5) Ta(b7) La(6) So Fi(#4) So Do Ma(b3) Ma Re(2) Do Mi

[@filipedecastro4718]

Another music that is cool to practice transposing to diferent modes is "Ovo" from Hermeto, It is originally on mixolydian but as a good exercise It is cool to transpose ir for other modes.

[@maxkonyi]

@@filipedecastro4718 Yup I know what you mean. Of course, using the b3 would be outside of the possibilities for this particular video since I needed to stay completely diatonic to the mode. In reality, there is very little musc which stays entirely diatonic to one particular mode and your examples are good ones. A ton of classic rock is also very mixo heavy but with various other degrees coming in and out all the time.

[@TheJoeFarter]

To me Lydian sounded like Harry Potter and Dorian sounded like LoTR

[@wernervannuffel2608]

WOW

[@gusiriusfilms2676]

Magic?

[@maxbarter7524]

Where is locrian

[@maxkonyi]

Check out the follow up explainer video! In short: IMO, Locrian doesn't function as an actual tonal center as far as western harmony is concerned. Instead, it will sound like some other relative mode like Phrygian. In the follow up video, I do show my best attempt at a Locrian version on piano...

[@timowijngaarden6944]

Great vid! Personally I am a hardstyle producer and also very interested in music theory. I really like more of the darker diminished ish sounds I would love to see you make a dark/mysterious trance, techno kind of track, with some advanced chords/ chord progressions with huge choirs and synths!

[@maxkonyi]

Sounds like a fun idea for a challenge! I've been considering doing a challenge like this in the Discord soon. Stay tuned...

[@timowijngaarden6944]

@@maxkonyi NICE, I just signed up for the discord so I’m definitely gonna join this one

[@maxkonyi]

@@timowijngaarden6944 🙌🙌🙌

[@antcubingx]

Locrian...?

[@maxkonyi]

See the follow-up video in the pinned comment!

[@NickCent]

I listend at faster speeds as well. Try it

[@maxkonyi]

Hmm interesting...I'll give it a try!

[@apuapu4545]

I don't understand it, but cool.

[@maxkonyi]

😅

[@greenvelvet]

A single Mode on their own is boring. You can barely hear the difference between modes, they all sound the same. the real magic happens when you MIX modes. When you replace one chord in a chord progression, from a parallel mode.

[@gibson2623]

Modes are really just some pseudo intellectual shite.....There are 7 notes, and that s what matters.

[@maxkonyi]

lol

[@gibson2623]

@@maxkonyi heheheh ;) Glad to know you got it ;) Nice demo....Take care bro ;)

[@maxkonyi]

@@gibson2623 🙌🌞🙌

[@gibson2623]

@@maxkonyi ❤