🛠 Toler Union (Unboxing and First Impressions)

[@Ben_LeeBZ]

I got this by supporting the project via Kickstarter. The wrench doesn't have the necessary strength to turn nuts. The screwdriver bit's retaining ball bearing fell out after first use. Overall, a delivered Kickstarter project but disappointing for user. Also, for those who has gotten the unit, be careful of clipping the webbing of your fingers when combining the two sides / pieces together. Cheers.

[@craigmooring2091]

You failed to notice that there is a pocket clip on EACH half. I'm thinking that one of the things this tool is designed to do is eliminate a problem with most multitool pliers: the need for another pair of pliers at the other end of the bolt. Clearly, the makers had in mind that once out of the holder the tool would often be separated into its halves to be used separately or in tandem. When either is not being used, it can be clipped temporarily to a pocket where it would be handier when needed than if it were back in the holster. It would also be more easily secured than in the holster where it would be tedious to snap and unsnap every time. The other half, when not in use, could be clipped to the same pocket or another one. It kind of looks like there is enough room in the holster for an additional rack of 10 or so double-ended bits.

[@kingpin11111]

Good point.

[@unfi6798]

@@kingpin11111 Excellent observation mate. Cowabunga.!

[@jonnyl2001]

Yeah. I feel like people should be checking out the vids the creator put out.

[@PoorWays]

Those are some good operative thoughts, any chance you've had a chance to experience editing this tool?

[@DylanDestr0y87]

So i have to say this is the longest wait for one of these ever im a big knife collector and multi tools are one of my favorite categories and ive had to wait for products before with backorders and waiting for restocks but this is ridiculous. I will say waiting this long your mind starts to run wild like is this company just screwing people over and the sending of emails is just to keep up the charade. Im in the 7 thousands for the waiting position and i really hope by the time it gets to me its not exactly like all the videos of people complaining cuz that will really suck and im trying to be positive but come on this is ridiculous!!!

[@maxlvledc]

you still haven't recieved?? that is insane.

[@brettmorton7365]

Mate, I was number 5800ish and only just got mine in early October 2024

[@jamietaylor5570]

I think the "Super Wrench"-ish tool on a multi-tool is an interesting idea but otherwise it seems like a lot of odd design and ergonomic choices, even allowing for the inline bit driver. Eg only 4 single-ended bits, a full size wood saw but not a full size file on and urban-oriented tool with a wrench, a reamer that doesn't really seem like it'd work as an awl. It kinda feels like the designer was trying to cram stuff in one way or another rather than thinking about the overall product. But maybe I'll be wrong and we'll all be carrying this type of tool in the future!

[@phillipfelts6687]

thanks for the review I've been waiting on mine from indigogo for 2 years it's been delayed several times due to the pandemic and supply chain issues

[@maxlvledc]

Just talked to him yesterday, getting them out is his only real focus atm. Another 1000 by end of month from what I hear.

[@Ice_Berg]

You may have already noticed it by this point, but there is also a third point where you can insert the bit extender; there's a spot on the pliers half of the tool near the pivot of the knife that lets you use it as an inline driver. I'm looking forward to the review, but I don't yet see any appeal to this tool. If someone needs a multitool and a wrench I think a Leatherman or Swisstool and a Knipex Pliers Wrench would do everything this can but better.

[@50scap3]

SUPER ANNOYED that you get sent a tool to “ review” when he has hundreds of people, including myself, who financed the damn thing but still haven’t received ours.

[@ragues_]

The pocket clip makes sense for me because you can carry it inside the waistband without a sheath

[@CandC68]

I love that someone thinks outside the box. Creativity is rare. thumbs up for Toler Union.

[@Ashton.everydaycarry]

Very interesting tools. Before you "interrupted" the video to correct yourself on the bit driver I felt like I was yelling at the screen - there's a spot on the top to make it inline! Very interesting tool though. Definitely seems a bit complicated with the two sections and attachment but would be great to see further testing!

[@GarrettRockey]

Your review and TX Tool Crib came up in my feed almost back-to-back. I watched yours first. Sorry Ben! Ima go watch it NOW.

[@maxlvledc]

Ben and I discuss things regularly, annoyed he beat me to the punch.

[@cuppa_joe]

It's good that you got the latest iteration of the tool. The very first few shipments of it for backers did not come with magnetic bit holders. I was one of them that had the earlier iteration. It's a cool novelty but like your first impressions I found it to be a bit over-engineered to be practical in daily usage.

[@Traderjoe]

I got mine a few months ago, but opted not to open the box because every video on it says it sucks. I have not seen one positive video on it. I am ashamed of myself for believing the hype and I will never, ever, be a part of any crowd funding scheme again.

[@Datsyukiandeke]

I'm so glad you were able to get one of these, I've been looking forward to your opinion on it

[@jseden]

That style of wrench definitely works if the geometry is correct.. I used to have an OLD German one called the “onehander” I wish I still had it. Should get another. It worked great! I used it for attaching and removing regulators all the time.

[@DiggingBuddy]

Looks like both halves have their own pocket clip too if you wanted to carry one half or maybe use two pockets for it?

[@JaspisB]

Do you have a date for the full review?

[@ghost-wolf0742]

Great video man. Can't wait to get mine.

[@rbrazz]

I'm gonna keep on keeping on with the Surge and 4" Knipex

[@TitusJames-iz7te]

You missed 3 different ways of using the tool as a screwdriver. The bit at the end that allows you to use is as a one handed driver can also turn 90° then the tool is put together that gives you a massive 2 handed 90° tbar driver. I am always curious if anyone needs that much torque or if the bit extender will break before using it like that. Both sides have a way of using it as an inline driver. When separated you can also use it as a 90° driver with the wrench side.

[@sztaylor89]

Glad to finally start seeing reviews of this. I was holding off on picking one up but I think I will. Now if only Gerber could get the duel force released

[@theknifeconnection9571]

How have you decided to get one

[@theknifeconnection9571]

I have just started this video. But every other video I’ve seen on it is pretty bad. They try to act like it’s good. And maybe 3 implements or so are. But the rest is just trash. Wire cutters can’t cut. Handle is boxy. Verynonuserfriendly mechanics. I’m so happy I didn’t help fund this on indigo go. Even tho I have nothing but respect from the designer / maker.

[@austinbridge]

Thanks for being honest with your miss on the bit driver! 😅

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

Coming up on 4 years wait for me this June. Still haven’t recieved mine

[@lrsmith6037]

I just got mine yesterday after four years. I’m watching videos to pick up on tips

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

@@lrsmith6037 I got mine a month ago. It’s as bad as I knew it would be. A complete pos and waste of money. I wish I never spent money on it and bought a leathermen instead. I hate it

[@brettmorton7365]

4 years, 2 months and some change.. just got it this morning... 1st impressions are a bit lacking in quality and yeah heavy, but it's two tools..

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

@@lrsmith6037 got mine in August and it is the biggest pos I’ve spent money on. Terrible product

[@jonnyl2001]

From what I recall, the pocket clip is to carry them separate (like in your left rear pocket and the other in the right or something). But only one side has the clip... so idk. I do wish more companies would use D2 or better for the blades. (I know some do and some say stainless bc of weather conditions)

[@jonnyl2001]

TxTools just showed that it does have 2 clips. So yeah split carry.

[@phillipfelts6687]

I see you drew the line and bubble but for those who don't know it has two points where you can use the bit driver on I guess you could call it a pommel and the point you highlighted

[@unfi6798]

All multitool are cumbersome untill we take it out in the field and learn how to use it and familiarize ourselves its functionality & potentials. Think that's why some people modify their tools so it can be low drag & high usage, making it an item they want to carry & of course "cool" to be seen with while impressing others. It took us approximately a month before we are proficient with our modified multitool now after years of regular use, we just don't think about it when we reach for it. It will be very interesting to see your full reviews on TU with its pros & cons including your thoughts on what can be modified to make it worth its weight. Thus that carrying case, it looks low end - (my first impression ok). It also has a pocket clip..! We can already see you doing some major surgery in making the TU much lighter & functional and using that pocket clip, encouraging you to carry it. Cowabunga mate.!

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

I repair medical equipment. We are looking to hire interns, so they can work with medical equipment as they are going to biomedical/technical school. This would be a GREAT IQ test for new hires. "How good are you at troubleshooting and problem solving?" "I'd say I'm good at it" "Prove it" 🤓

[@maxlvledc]

Haha, truth

[@jwarehouse1]

I applaud the inovation and radical design. Build quality seems pretty good. I am interested to see your full review when you really test it out. Wrench part looks promising. My gut feeling, for pocket/belt carry,.... is it will work just fine, but with the weight of that thing being over 14 oz......you could carry a Leatherman, SAK, and a Knipex Cobra, and a dedicated knife. Or is it worth it to carry just the Omni wrench part, with your Letherman..... It might be a better bike/pack tool...or to keep in car.

[@hellsing56666]

Interesting concept, but it doesn't appeal me.

[@landscapingspecialist]

Im intrigued

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

15:41 Yeah, but the fact that you got as far as you did means that the tool is pretty intuitive for anyone familiar with multitools. I'm very impressed. This seems to be an actual MULTI-tool. Not as slick as say a Leatherman Free P2 or P4, but really cool and very useful. I'll be interested in your full review after reading the manual ;-) P.s. I also imagine that future iterations will be more elegant, less clunky. Its still pretty impressive IMO.

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

I would add that its a multi-tool. It is a "I have the right, or at least something that will work (at least decently) in a pinch, tool for right now. (and I don't mean trying to use a dime to turn a flat-head screw, I mean something that will work for most people.) Many don't have the finger strength to use a dime to tighten or loosen a flathead screw. I'm a great grandmother and those days when I could do this are long gone (My partner and I are great grandmothers). Honestly, I'm not handy, but my partner is, and when she was younger, she could make the dime work.) In any event, a multitool will never match a dedicated, purposely-designed and singular-focused tool for a given task. Given that I'm not handy, I always bought the highest quality tools I could afford and my partner, now of 25+ years, was impressed by my tool set. However, again, I'm not handy and I can use all the help I can get. So, the right tool for the right job is required for me. My partner can make cobbled solutions work, even given that she is a self-taught software engineer/architect by trade, having been a hacker and phone freaker when she was younger. The above is a tool I could use in a pinch. My partner could make this tool work all day, day after day, until she wore it out. In other words, its impressive IMO. .

[@davidmiller4734]

Im still waiting to receive mine glad too see some of the issues where worked out i saw in some of the first few batches made last time i checks the were shipping out from like 1000s im still way back in line at like 4000s something but anyways hope to see the full review soon and maybe ill even have mine by then too

[@dmb_playz3466]

I still haven't received mine yet 😭 pledged in April 2021

[@maxlvledc]

wooow

[@tomturbuckle0076]

Definitely better made than alot of the unique designed tools out there from the looks of it. Still not sure if it replaces my surge or swiss tool.

[@snosov]

Feels like wrench produced as a individual tool with ergonomic handle would worth it weight and space on the belt.

[@bruceevans8837]

Hmmm, there's a LOT going on there, I'll reserve judgement but it superficially appears way too much "Rube Goldberg on meth" for me. I'll look forward to the full review.

[@loren481]

Kind of alarming that the blade popped open around the 4 minute mark without you noticing, to the point that the back braces of the pliers hit the tip when you were opening them up at 4:50. Really lucky you didn't get bitten! EDIT: Looking at it at 18:20-18:25, I think you broke the tip when the back of the pliers hit it. I agree with your first impression that a tool like this should not have a knife. Just adds weight and danger, when all you get is a crappy, uncomfortable knife.

[@neeko7878]

Ugggg…. Ever since I saw ads for this on KZbin I was interested. I really wanted it to be nice. The owner seems like a good guy. Unfortunately it looks very “China”. This guy is a young Tim Leatherman, who needs a huge Venture Firm to cash flow this project to refine it. Big, clunky and fit and finish appears… meh! Will keep my eye on it.

[@leealtmansr.3811]

Nice you got one for review. Thousands of us are still waiting for our paid for tools. (For years.)

[@maxlvledc]

That's what I've heard...not a good look.

[@ethanmeatzie6179]

To be fair, consider everything else going on in the world while he's been trying to make production and deliveries happen. It was always going to be an uphill battle as soon as 2020 began.

[@leealtmansr.3811]

@@ethanmeatzie6179 I will not disagree with you. But my point is that why are KZbinrs promoting the item that is highly back-ordered? 🤔 Make your current customers happy first, no?

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

I'm glad you got one of these cuz I've always been interested in one of these toller tools, now get a real honest dependable review.also how much? And serious on how tough to steal is they use? There's a lot of stuff going on it leans to the possibility of Benz or breakages I'm curious to see exactly what this thing can do 8)

[@maxlvledc]

Expensive...unfortunately

[@2371Anita]

No way! NO WAY! You got one! 😱😱😱😱😱 HOW DID YOU DO THAT? Ow sweet memories, I remember it as the day of yesterday..... When I pointed you in the toler direction, when you were exited about the GOAT tool. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁 If ever! If everrrrrrrrrr... you decide to get writ of it..... CONTACT ME!! 🙏

[@maxlvledc]

It's a possibility 😉

[@2371Anita]

@@maxlvledc 🌷

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Instructions unclear, I formed three callouses, earned 2 new bruises, and cut myself. Also, I installed a kitchen sink with plumbing during the confusion.

[@PoorWays]

Hey, any chance you have a video review of yours on this tool?

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

@@PoorWays While I have some EDC/tool reviews on my channel, no, I have never touched or used this tool IRL. Based on the video, and the price, I don't see this being a viable tool.

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

@@OutsideTheTargetDemographicthen why tf did you write a comment saying you did?

[@collinis1]

I agree that they should have skipped the blade. Unfortunately no matter how good a blade you put in it, the location makes it far less than ideal. I feel that anyone buying this already carried a knife anyway

[@kingpin11111]

I think that some kind of serrated blade would be better. Or perhaps a replaceable utility blade holder, box cutter, or large scissors. I agree that people who buy this tool probably carry a dedicated knife already.

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

The blade can be removed i believe

[@johnkraemer5505]

Ok…. The tool looks very interesting. How big is the opening of the wrench (1/2 inch)? Your going to have to do a full detailed review of the tool!

[@PoorWays]

I think Toler's website says 3/4"

[@bryanyee7]

What is that knife blade that you used to open the package? Looks really cool.

[@maxlvledc]

It's civivi praxis..one of my absolute favorite knives

[@marmite8959]

Innovative and kinda cool in a Batman utility belt kinda way, I can't see many people making the jump from a traditional multitool to something like this though. The ergonomics are just so weird in my opinion. Cool, but weird. Not sure exactly who this is designed for, I guess it could make a decent all-in-one car/bike repair kit? It'll be interesting to see the review

[@stan1027]

I want one! My name is actually Stanley Toler, and I want it for no other reason than it has my last name on it! Where can I get one? Never mind, I found it and ordered one

[@wesleemiller]

Cool.

[@Thomamps]

I have to ask are the saws and awl locking or not? Another review couldn't close them without opening a second tool, original Supertool style.

[@maxlvledc]

I need to investigate further..it may have similar

[@ethanmeatzie6179]

That is how they're designed to work, yes.

[@J1c80]

The poor guy that designed this tool has been through alot with this tool he seems like a smart dude I think this thing was a bit over engineered alot of stuff going on with this tool .it must be pretty expensive to produce these tools . very interesting too!

[@maxlvledc]

Lots and lots

[@grasvard]

Test more! So interested in this one!

[@brettmorton7365]

So after 4 years, 2 months and some change waiting... It finally arrived. Its big and heavy, and the quality seems a bit iffy... As i write this and tinker the ball bearing fell out of the bit extender 🤯 and the omni wrench thing seems quite wobbly... There is a lot going on here and im not sure its all good... By other comments here im not alone

[@freedomslight9580]

Your video is a year old. I get it. But "they" reached out to you to get your hands on it? It is 2023. I ordered mine August 4, 2020. 3 freaking years today. Still no tool for me. But how throughout all the stuff the creator has gone through did you get "sent" one to review. While the rest of us believe this is a unicorn because we don't have ours. It's a bit frustrating. Plus, quality or not. It's still made in China. That's a downer. Taiwan would be a little better.

[@maxlvledc]

For real?!?! That's crazy! And I never made another video because well...I had very few nice things to say.

[@DeepRootedTreeForest]

I'm curious about the weight of the tool.

[@adamcook5433]

Looks kinda Frankenstein very awkward to use type of tool. Cool idea. Still waiting for knipex to make a cobra multi tool

[@theomnipresent1]

I don't like that the blade edge is offset so you can't cut right against a flat surface.

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

Cry more

[@JustaPerson01234]

Do you have an updated video?

[@maxlvledc]

Nope, wasn't worth

[@user-ms5gt1kd6p]

TBH it looks kind of ridiculous. I would throw the tool out and just toss a few tools in a fanny pack before wearing that around and trying to use it. Check out the fix-it-sticks if you haven't already. Their ratcheting driver is my new favorite screwdriver

[@maxlvledc]

Yep, covered them in screwdriver video, they are awesome

[@XaeonBE]

Anybody knows what bit holder he is using when he is testing if it works with normal bits

[@maxlvledc]

its the Steelman Screwdiver I reviewed in my screwdriver Vid: amzn.to/38qi82T

[@jayknight850]

Glad you reviewed one of these, I was a early adopter. Finally received the gadget and played with it a little. Currently in a drawer, not a useful tool in my opinion, questionable quality.

[@TylerSnyder305]

The only thing I can really say is that the reason the leatherman was such a success is because it's simple and because it's so much like a conventional pair of pliers. I can see the thought that went into this, but it's trying to do too much and it's just to unconventional to really take off.

[@maxlvledc]

Probably

[@TylerSnyder305]

@@maxlvledc There will always be people who can take a liking to something as long as it technically functions, these are people who believe in pushing boundaries and like unique novel things. Then there people like me who think if it ain't broke don't fix it ,and that just functioning isn't good enough because it has to be user friendly and more practical than novel. The first group thinks we just hate progress and write off anything different as a novelty without giving it a chance. The people like me think in terms of simple practicality, and we know sometimes theres a reason certain things haven't really been tried before. Theres some truth / good to both sides, but theres usually little agreement between both sides. In the end time will tell who was right. I believe this tool will fail for many reasons, but the most blatant problem is that nothing about this tool is very obvious. No hand tool should need an instruction manual.

[@onlypatience]

Everyone should do what they can. This, don't look like it.

[@Reijack]

I do like complexity in my tools, and nifty mechanical design, but this thing gives me a headache just looking at it It's like a pocket-size rube-goldberg machine

[@starkparker16]

That thing is way too big for a belt and not better than a DIY kit in a backpack. Looking forward to the most insane, exhaustive and OCD review on the internet next time.

[@Willr47]

Sell if to me?

[@Willr47]

Was that a yes ;) ? @maxlvledc

[@hetrogamr84]

That is VERY-HATEFUL and abusive the way you have your ads.

[@maxlvledc]

??

[@KungFuTweety1]

Looks unwieldy , and cumbersome... but very innovative!

[@Castleknight]

Too big, clumsy and expensive for what you get. I won't be getting one.

[@davidmiller4734]

Finally got mine today after waiting 4 year and yeah not impressed. It's cool a neat tool but completely impractical to use

[@genoedcknifecollecter1538]

Not something I'd buy, I've seen the plyers cutters on some examples are awful and won't cut

[@onearnedbandit]

KEEP It Simple Stupid is an old proven maxim

[@maxlvledc]

Yeeeep

[@dualsportoutdoors]

Definitely not my cup of tea. Looks like a lot of stuff that could break on there. I’ll stick to a normal multitool

[@michaelcolloton6971]

Congratulations, SOG. You linger make the heaviest, more cumbersome and most ridiculous multitools on the market. It's hard to believe that this much stupid only costs $150.

[@peddypeoples941]

looks way too clunky and heavy, overengineered and lots of useful tools missing.

[@lvhdmya4807]

Doesn't solve any problem people have with modern MTs. Doesn't bring anything new to the table.

[@kala011000]

Bad.

[@courtwoodward2131]

This campaign was wildly successful. I contributed at the one year mark. It took two years, two months and two weeks to get one. Mostly excuses from inventor. My tool the wrench is gritty. Scuffs in black finish. Two Phillips screws rounded out. One flat head screw buggered up. Pocket clip slightly bent. It’s novel and a bit fiddly. I regret purchasing. I have no intention of carrying. I feel lucky I just got something. My guess is inventor has been over spending and it is like going to turn into a pyramid scheme. The last contributors will likely not get their tools. Remember nothing is guaranteed for your contribution. Because of my bad experience this is my first and last contribution.