Are Phone Coolers for Gaming a SCAM?! Here's the Truth..

[@MaxTechOfficial]

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[@thegamingchannel1005]

this is happening because of adaptive refresh rate

[@IskandarM_]

I don’t think the inconsistent frame rate is related to heat. I think the game itself is just very cpu gpu demanding that it can’t maintain 120fps at certain places in the game. Maybe you should test again while the character is indoors.

[@pilotreg]

iphone isnt the best gaming phone.......

[@albeltra8]

If it could also charge I might give it a try.

[@bobjob6901]

Would it work on consoles?

[@rafaelsalazar2728]

I don't think the point of those coolers is to give a great boost in FPS. It's more about keeping temps lower in order to provide longer gaming sessions without throttling and by extension, increasing the phone's life expectancy.

[@thebarbiter4644]

THIS. And it's super irritating how the dude's testing on the fly for the sake of a quick video, and not something planned ahead of time and given more time, so you're only going to get even MORE "disappointing" results!

[@saywhat6585]

You don’t get it, less heat = less thermal throttling, thus the device will maintain a stable fps in any game ofc that depends on the device specs but that’s a different story

[@rafaelsalazar2728]

​@@saywhat6585 ... Friend, it's one thing to BOOST/AUGMENT fps (not the purpose of these coolers), and another to MAINTAIN fps at a stable count by controlling hardware temps. (Purpose of the coolers). To say they don't work when it clearly did the job it was intended (lower temps, stable and marginally better fps count, no throttling or screen dimming), is to be either dishonest or ignorant. Anyway, tell me more about how I "don't get" the concept of hardware thermals and the effectiveness of peltier cooling systems at small scale... Do tell.

[@Milo0610]

@@thebarbiter4644 i dont know but since using cooler im getting consistent FPS cuz heating affects the performance of the phone

[@JuniorLopez-qu1dy]

@@Milo0610I bought one recently n it’s coming in three days does it work really well?

[@kushalraj]

I wish Razor would have an extension of heat pipes or something near the chipset. So the attachment by MagSafe is still convenient and it has the ability to cool the chip better

[@yellowghost5199]

Maybe if they made a case for it

[@jonyythetryhrd]

Yes like the wings on the redmagic dual core cooler so the coolness could be distributed properly

[@Jack-sq9lo]

Might block your hand, so needs to be designed carefully

[@dr.franxx]

need the case for it, i think one that made with alu

[@Firojda-xs3rj]

That's called, pelter module

[@utubekullanicisi]

There's definitely a software optimization issue going on. Pascal's Wager also exhibited the same weird 120-60fps fluctuation behavior. That's not due to thermal throttling, it's an issue that has to do with the game and how it interacts with ProMotion.

[@ColonelLucario]

Are you sure ? Since 120 fps on games gonna heat a lot the phone and drain a lot of battery 🤔

[@robbyfn]

@@ColonelLucario thermal throttling causes fps to drop slowly as it gets hotter and hotter until it gets as hot as it will and level out. This is software because it drops from 120 to 60 and there is no in between.

[@svearike00]

same in pubg mobile playing 90 fps

[@naoton201]

@@robbyfn in mobile games frame rate is set to 120, 60 and 30 thats why when it can keep up at 120fps frame rate drop 1- 3 and then the game itself set to 60 instead of 90/100

[@kyleinigotorres6892]

In my ip13 pro when i play call of duty mobile iwth ultra feame rate(120fps option) sometimes its 120 but it goes down to 60

[@Retronyx]

The reason why it drops down to 60fps most of the time is the moment genshin load in new area and when you're moving around. 120fps is only when you're not in combat and also in a loaded area. The game is suppose to run at 60fps to begin with, so stable 120 will only burn the phone.

[@LongLiveBruh]

This is not exclusive to gens him impact it’s part of apple pro motion. It actives when you move the screen (which is when it counts) and lowers when your stationary

[@AntonioMaciaMartinez]

V-sync

[@evilsuhn9941]

the creator intentionally didn't test when the battle animation intense, because it will flat to 60 fps and that not good for the sponsored product

[@ikramullahkhan9856]

It doesn't happen w games​@@LongLiveBruh

[@정원우-z5j]

Just the prevention of display dimming alone is worth the price in my opinion.

[@Youmum541]

There isn’t much of an improvement because obviously the cooler isn’t intact to the chip but instead to the battery

[@klanowicz]

I agree. For gaming the most important is how fast you can take heat directly from CPU. Cooling back of the phone wont really help because there are thermal limitations between CPU and heatspreader. It's like drinking water with a narrow straw. It doesn't matter how fast you swallow if water can't go through straw faster

[@SpeedyMike]

Possibly better battery life?

[@iamseanb17]

Exactly

[@kakashi99908]

@@SpeedyMike Actually if it gets too cold it can damage the battery

[@SpeedyMike]

@@kakashi99908 - Yeah but i think it's not that cold.

[@albedo0point39]

Would be useful on a car windscreen holder. I’ve had my phone overheat and shut off in sunny conditions.

[@christianaquino5230]

or you could get the ones that attach to the air vents and blast ur ac on while driving and ur phone definitely won't heat up while driving

[@ethanartofcook8433]

The frames per second (FPS) can be affected by your location in the game. If you want to check the consistency, you should run the same test at the same location where you ran the first test.

[@rocky-zx6kq]

What are you yapping about 💀

[@ethanartofcook8433]

@@rocky-zx6kq How about watching the video? It will provide clarity on the topic at hand. Engaging in baseless arguments is unproductive.

[@rocky-zx6kq]

@@ethanartofcook8433 I type this when I was late night partying and drunk af lmao, from what I remember I thought you said fps is affected in your IRL location, not in game location 💀

[@Ventace1022]

Would it be possible for you to test it again with the universal clamp option? With that, you'd be able to move the cooler up the phone to where the CPU is, and it could have a massive difference since in this initial test, the magsafe option was completely off of the CPU area.

[@likediy1305]

kzbin.info answer this question on his video

[@RiderBlitz1.0]

Yes

[@shinychris0400]

Exactly

[@toytulog576]

yes I am waiting for this.. Hopefully he make another video where cpu area.

[@horbledorble5716]

unfortunately i dont think you can, since the chip is right next to the cameras, which would block the clamps :(

[@valconir1619]

The issue is just the placement that is not even near the chip, if it can be directly on top of it then it will be much more effective

[@fabrez]

yep. really a bummer

[@karakatowTV]

I mean.. regardless of the performance boost, it definitely would help in terms of health. Dare I say it's going to be better for the battery too. Since heat is the main culprit of horrible battery health and charging in general. Edit: Should have made it clear to let the phone cool down before using the cooler and start another recording to simulate using the cooler from the start instead of after heating the whole device

[@haixinzheng9759]

The issue with this cooler is that it's been placed at the back of the battery not where the CPU is. It does help with the battery heating problem especially when playing games while charging. However, not going to help much with CPU heat.

[@Alex_vrs1995]

That's correct

[@chocotv9179]

Precisely! That's what I'm gonna say bro

[@ronweasley9001]

My only concern is the battery going bad due to long term overheating.

[@haixinzheng9759]

@@ronweasley9001 If you don't often playing intensive games on you phone while charging, this shouldn't be an issue.

[@ronweasley9001]

@@haixinzheng9759 I don't play video games on my phone while it's charging. But I'm using the phone cooler while gaming to ensure the temps don't reach above 36'.

[@variamente6855]

I know they made a phone case but razer could make a case with a built in vapour chamber with a small fan at the back to draw the heat away from the phone

[@nrgamingtech2797]

I think this also has a benefit on the battery, as far as I know phone batteries degrade faster when under high temperatures

[@Roshan_420]

True which is why I want this and use it while charging or sitting in the sun watching youtube

[@MikeTheHackerMTH]

So the fact is that if you start the test without the cooler when the phone is fresh of course it does good the first minutes, but if you put the cooler on when the phone is literally super hot you can't expect that much difference. You should try wait for the phone to cool down and then do the test again.

[@nicolaswalsh]

They should design one that cools the whole back side and not just the MagSafe area, that would be “cool” no pun intended!

[@muham2654]

Some diy might help

[@attractionsmagazine]

Our phone overheats when shooting video in the hot Florida sun. Would this work for that? Will it work plugged into a battery backup?

[@Cxzy.ej.2010]

Yep 100%

[@franciscoayon9470]

I think for best comparison you should use 2 different iPhone,1 without the cooler and 1 with,to see what it does and so from the beggining and not after the phone already got hot,wonder if it would be a different since the phone getting cooled from the beggining

[@whyurlapsmellsgood69]

I was thinking the same thing. The fan started at a disadvantage since it was placed on an already hot phone

[@M3hirr]

You should test the MagSafe charger slapped on the cooler! That way! We’ll know if the MagSafe charger can actually charge at 15W for longer

[@Chris.Morales]

The problem is that iPhone has an adaptive bitrate screen. So depending on various factor it throttles the fps. It doesn’t have a “120hz/fps forced mode” for everything like some Android’s have. So most game will go up to 90 but not over that. You noticed that when you stopped moving to pause the recording in Pascal’s Wager. It immediately went up to 120 whereas when you were playing and moving it would vary.

[@HockeyPlayer323]

Great videos as always! Though I'm not sure if you are letting the phone cool after the first run to have a fair test when using it with the cooler. The MagSafe cooler is a great idea though the circular design isn't suited for proper cooling since it's not directly or touching the area of the iPhones chip. They could of made a triangular shape or even custom per device shape and would be worth it if temps were better.

[@danielbozev6942]

yes he has to wait the phone to cool down and then start the test with the cooler and i think the phone will not even be hot

[@taggie_]

They do sell an adjustable non mag safe option. Hopefully that would help

[@AhmMansurApu]

you are right man

[@yougeeuh400]

I'd rather use a clip on cooler to position it nearer to the warmest zone. Also, there are better Peltier type coolers out there in the market which cools better than Razer.

[@zgoaty9235]

What about GPU usage? Was it maxing out on the GPU constantly or was there headroom? With the 5 GPU cores, it should be about 45-50% faster than the A12Z chip but there’s still plenty of demanding mobile games when trying to hit 120 fps.

[@TheRealNightShot]

It is slower than the A12Z's GPU. But not by much.

[@motiondeep9989]

Nah, A12Z features a 8 core gpu.

[@trustnoone270]

They need to increase the contact surface out of the MagSafe area and then it would be perfect

[@dhrumilparekh8856]

You had to let the phone sit for a while before starting again with the cooler.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

I did :) it just got cut out of the video.

[@sergiom7206]

Even if it doesnt cool the cpu as much a cooler battery will prolong its life and should allow for longer use per charge.

[@daniel_960_]

Best cooling would be a heat conducting case and the cooler. The upper left corner the frame is what gets the hottest.

[@ahmedalsadi0010]

yes true the mag safe area cold but doesnt reach to cpu its should be like a case that conduct the coldness to the cpu

[@svearike00]

they have one of these products

[@zahidl5061]

How is he so surprised that it’s 7 degrees colder

[@amanothai1156]

@@zahidl5061 7 degrees colder for phone is fucking magic thing that every phone brand want to do and this phone cooler can do it

[@DemetriPanici]

I've been working under the assumption that coolers for phones and laptops were useless for a while

[@ahead5747]

Phone cooler is effective for players who play long hours. If you play game for 10 minutes or an hour, you don't need it at all. So, the test is only valid if you tested for more than one hour. One hour is still too low though. More than 2 hours test is better imo. Also, most 120 fps games has problems so testing on 60 fps games is better for now. In my experience, I don't feel lag when I play with cooler. Of course, your phone must be able to handle the graphic first. If not, even phone cooler can't help.

[@GraysonZimmer]

I can't imagine why you wouldn't be curious what would happen if you put it right on the CPU hot spot....

[@rockanroleropr3467]

Looks like someone forgot about the ProMotion feature of the display… that’s why the fps jumps from 60mhz to 120mhz

[@ArchangelMichael94]

I’m not a 100% sure if its just because of that, but i think that’s definitely a big part of it. There’s a couple times in Genshin where you can see the fps spike up as he turns the camera super quick

[@venator7889]

There's no option to turn it off. It only turns off when battery saver mode is on.

[@jeffrivera6]

is it safe for the internals of the phone? is it going to cause condensation inside the phone?

[@TonyMacina]

Did you guys film this in 4k60 or just break the 180 degree shutter rule? Looks sharp but too smooth, I miss that 24-30fps motion blur haha. Otherwise great video, makes the legion or rog phone’s fans make sense, heat is the issue now as phone chips are so damn powerful. Mad to think these aren’t far off last gen consoles for raw graphics power.

[@turtletube]

It’s 2000 something P with 60 fraps

[@Subbu-Alias-Subrahmanyam]

I have 15 pro max and that magsafe cooler my only doubt is the cooler is cooling a lot which causes moist inside phone i tested by placing on a pouch after a while inside the pouch moist has been formed so i request you to make a video using that cooler on a phone for 3 or 5 hours continuously and checking inside for moist

[@phoenix_hatcher]

Man this was a highly inaccurate video. It's a small cooler. All it does and IS SUPPOSED TO DO is keep the the battery and generally the phone somewhat cool. In the video, it's not even cooling the processor, but just the middle of the phone. In the cpu of a desktop, you cool the processor directly. That definitely does help with the performance. The main target of the cooler is to keep the battery healthy. I can say this because I use a phone cooler too (using one right at this moment of commenting). My previous phone dropped down to 77% health with intensive gaming sessions without the cooler for 2 years. And my current phone is at 94% with cooler on almost all the time, underwent similar gaming sessions as my previous phone, for nearly 2 years now. The numbers speak for themselves.

[@phineasphreak6158]

What about the power supply?? Wich one is the recomended?? The same iPhone charger ??

[@lennynotkravitz]

Imma get this for my car, because 5G, (wired) CarPlay, Google Maps and Radarbot causes regular overheating issues forcing my iPhone to shut down for cooling.

[@superidolbrother1123]

it's worth it bro trust me im a mobile user who plays 6-8 hrs a day because they paid me to play and i use this for a straight 8 hrs

[@ExplosiveTowel88]

Conclusion: it works

[@PikaPower131313]

thanks bro, gonna get one to run genshin at 60fps on my 15 pro max

[@rjvehemente1738]

Planing to buy.. is it safe in the long run?

[@joewalters16]

Did you let the iPhone cool off before you started to play again with the cooler?

[@Count.Zer0]

Does this phone have variable refresh rate? If not its switching btw 60 and 120fps due to Vsync. Makes sense

[@rukitorin1998]

There is this thing called iphone cooler plate on the market right now to evenly spread the cooling from a magsafe cooler. It's basically just a metal piece that you stick to the back of your phone.

[@stefanbachrodt533]

F-THAT! I'm sticking to my gel-packs, works great. Only issue is condensadtion

[@The.JZA.]

Did you let the phone cool between tests or did you just chuck the cooler on the iPhone when it was already hot?

[@v.yasn0o]

Can I use it with iPad Pro?

[@balubalaji9956]

2:35 bent cable ending shows a lot about his gaming habits

[@NitheshVG734]

Wow you have such a nice timestamps in the description!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Can you make them for me?

[@anafbinayub3703]

11.31 you should jeep the cooler right in the soc for peak performance

[@aldx1516]

It would make sense if the cooler was above the chipset not above the wireless charging pad...

[@yngvie659]

All right, so my question is, does the cooler have to be plugged in at all times?

[@yngvie659]

My guess is you should probably put the cooler on the hotspot of the phone which seems to be near the camera

[@RiteshKudalkar]

I hope we don't normalize external phone coolers. Please 🙏🏻

[@riikato]

*Maybe have a phone cooler design that has a more convenient shape wherein we can place the cooler directly on top of the processor to maximize its effectiveness.*

[@StormbladeX69]

I'm using a cooler. It also helps when charging, as my Galaxy S23 Ultra charging doesn't slow down due to heat. Another great Use Situation is Live Streaming on KZbin. I'm using the top Nubia Redmagic Cooler 5 Pro. I've also ordered a Black Shark FunCooler 4 Pro to compare. The wattage on the TEC is higher on the Nubia, but the FunCooler has a larger Heat Sink, so I'm curious if it cools better even though Peak Wattage is lower.

[@skywenger8399]

The fan attachment probably helps but you should get some monitoring software on the phone you're using for the test, scanning the surface with a thermal camera is not the most accurate way to do it

[@Kepppo]

We should have a magsafe coolfan directly to the SoC instead of the battery, not that hard tbh, i would buy it 10/10 times

[@kidman2505]

It is that hard. Nobody is cutting their phone open with a Dremel for direct die contact. Learning what "directly to the soc" means isn't that hard tbh.

[@Kepppo]

I meant a cooler closer to the soc, not internally ahahaha, just above but higher close to the right of the camera@@kidman2505

[@ThibautMahringer]

​@@kidman2505 You can't have die contact on an iPhone, their chips is stuck between both layers of PCB lol and even the SE, which have a single layer PCB, the chip is facing the screen. Dumb thermal designs

[@adriananzano2292]

For the love of god Apple. All of my iPhones from the 6, 7, X, 11 Pro Max, have all had the same heating issue. I’ll never understand why Apple has been so reluctant to add ANY form of cooling. For a short amount of time before i got an 11, i owned a Galaxy S9+. Despite technically the X’s chipset being faster than the S9’s, in real world use that thing has been a dream to game on, no heating issues whatsoever.

[@sergiomartinez5946]

What do you suggest? Any fans, vents, holes makes the phone not as waterproof. I think they would have to go the route of Redmagic, and make a phone just for gamers, but that's a niche and probably not worth Apple's time.

[@КристиянТрънбашев-ш6г]

@@sergiomartinez5946 Rog Phone 6 Pro

[@gramarlacsina4390]

Are phone coolers safe? I’m worried condensation can happen inside and damage the phone

[@girisantosh540]

Yes sir . I also thinking same.

[@girisantosh540]

Did you find any problems about this ? Please share your experience about this phone cooler please.🙏

[@rendimulyadi]

I'm using lot of cooler. If you want higher FPS dont play without cooler first. Using cooler from or before you start the game, So your phone doesn't throttle.

[@gigathlete2277]

Awesome video! So happy you guys are using the real time fps meter now!

[@definitelynotnoreen]

can it damage your phone considering it produces moisture? planning to buy one

[@xunsungwar77]

That is what I am thinking too..

[@ManzaEN]

Hi, could you cover the screen recording audio bug on Samsung devices? If you're not aware on what it is, it's a bug where audio sound richer and fuller while screen recording in games and the video editor. And when you're not recording, audio sounds tinny and lacks low end frequencies. This seems to happen in non-media based apps. Every other tech channel I've contacted have either refused to cover this issue or simply ignored it.

[@Slayup_13]

Yeah right

[@WillEDC]

These are useful for flying drone in high heat and sun. Causes display dimming and also app errors Actually these things are like 15 bucks. I wouldn’t pay 60

[@levi3753]

Does it cause moisture to the internal phone parts? If so, does the back cover prevent this if used? I use Google Translate 🙂💔

[@dieseldawg7132]

Shouldn’t unless there was already moisture inside your phone aka you dropped it in water

[@TheHalalStudent]

why are you putting at the back of the phone when the hot spot is not there?!

[@BN99239]

The fluctuation in fps is also due to you moving around and looking at different things within the game, causing more rendering or less rendering of the GPU depending on what's currently happening. I don't think this is an accurate way to measure. You should just stand still in a game or run some sort of test to stress out the phone, grab the results and then run it again with the cooler to see if it helps.

[@corygatrell7758]

That would make way too much sense. This guy claims an apple phone is the best gaming phone lol I wouldn't have expected accurate information from the rest of the video following that bit. Lol

[@Desenrad]

I think people are looking at this product wrong. The most important thing its cooling is your battery. The more a batter heats up. the less it start to store electrons(lowering the total capacity its able to hold) Personally I'd get this just to protect my battery and prolong the costly replacement.

[@danutstancu611]

What thermal camera are you using!? Thanks!

[@denulwelianga9686]

They might need to make dedicated coolers that has a copper arms that is placed directly on top of the SoC.

[@TheSzilard77]

Work with case? A huge case?

[@meyersut6249]

what would be insane is if the magsafe could charge the cooler so u dont need the cable for the fan and you could just clip it on.

[@effiential9069]

That's so genius

[@arthur_something]

dude, i love your channel .lml can you do something similar to the ipad? i have heat problems using Nomad Sculpt

[@christiancastro504]

The maverick of wall street I see

[@RayTheVideoGuy]

Tough to tell in the video, but how noticeable was the difference of the 60-120?

[@MaxTechOfficial]

I could definitely tell, but it wasn't annoying or a bad experience when it dropped down to 60.

[@jlelelr]

another proof that confirms RGB improves FPS

[@Lordjflaco0513]

Is the phone cooler portable ? Can u used it with a portable charger

[@masonm3454]

Why did you use the lowest graphics settings?

[@Yogevd100]

Hi, which thermal camera did you used? Thank you

[@fabrez]

it's a bummer that the main heat source was beside the cameras which the magsafe and all mobile phone coolers aren't placed

[@CubingOfficial]

Bro, you should have let the phone cool down and stay closed after that 10 minute gaming sesion, for atleast 10 minutes for real results, of course the results with the cooler were not that impresive, because the phone wwas already tired and hot after the first gaming sesion

[@archoi6767]

could you test in iphone 15 pro?

[@AltMarc]

It also, should be a wireless charger and have strong magnets...

[@KenyattaBarton]

I would have liked to see a longer test for both

[@monoislive4320]

Whats the name of second game ?

[@siewyongli1055]

it works very well with ipad, my ipad pro never throttle with cooler on but will throttle without cooler after 10 minutes. the position of iphone chip is higher beside the camera lens, so it will be less effective

[@hoapham7389]

I have same type of cooler for my s20 Fe, but it's more effective when I put the cooler on my screen, then I plugin to monitor to use it as dex.

[@CallMeVidd]

Oh I was hoping the cooler would power trough magsafe Still having to lug a powerbank around for it kinda ruins it for me

[@SwayzeDaGhost]

Will this work with the new iPhone 14 being Titanium?

[@steventandean610]

So can i game while charging with this cooler? Will it harm my battery that way?

[@lurkingarachnid7475]

the cooling plate needs to be bigger more surface area more cooling area

[@incurab1e]

People pay for 120fps but still get 60fps half the time. What’s the point in getting iPhone 13 pros?

[@teme9333]

can you test if this helps with charging?

[@recordedanemone6399]

wow, you're filming at 60 fps now, great!

[@recordedanemone6399]

Give your thoughts if you think that they should continue filming like this

[@NitheshVG734]

I think you are new to this channel…

[@recordedanemone6399]

I know they sometimes do, but it will be cool to see every video of theirs like this.

[@icey2213]

did he wait for the phone to cool down bfre the next test.....

[@Ahmad_Albassri]

Nooo

[@willphoenix2621]

I still wonder why people game on a phone, but in reality revenue and user base of online mobile gaming is larger than AAA titles and hardcore games

[@hpk]

I would buy the cooler if it worked for the new macbook air! would u guys test this?

[@SkySky-uj1fk]

Hey, why did you stop the recording at different times ?

[@nobleaches1379]

it depends on the situation of the game make it constant trouble like exploding bomb like it mincraft or just go near the waterfall and watch the splash

[@samaahmed9555]

Whoa WAIT - are you using a new camera to film your videos?

[@njramos7368]

the only reason why it still drops fps even with cooler is the optimisation.,an update to the app will fix the issue but coolers are really useful to hardcore gamer using high graphics ang high fps for long hours of gameplay it really helps