Both solid machines. I still prefer the pitman transmission, but couldn’t pass up a 9804, that clean, and optioned. Nice acquisition.
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@dynatrak I totally agree! The long strokes are better at turnover.
@deanblackwell1461Ай бұрын
My preference is the old school. The fast agitation gives me anxiety, whereas the slower longer strokes is calming to me. I think they probably wash equally well, some might each suit different loads better. Thanks for this video, I really enjoyed it.
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@deanblackwell1461 I couldn't have said that better myself. I do prefer the long strokes better than the short ones. I actually think it has better turnover.
@DeansWasherVideosАй бұрын
Oops should have changed to DWV acct lol
@Jerry-dq4omАй бұрын
They are both good, but I prefer The older one far more!
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@Jerry-dq4om I agree with you on that note as well something about the original.
@augustowaters28662 ай бұрын
I have a modern version of this washer which had the straight vane agitator and I also bought the dual action agitator. Sometimes I like washing with the straight and sometimes with the dual. I simply love the washers and love to play with them!!!
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@augustowaters2866 yes it's fun to change them out although I prefer the straight vein. Which machine do you have? That's the modern version?
@augustowaters28662 ай бұрын
@@petermaz701 KZbin doesn’t allow to post pictures, maybe we will have to meet another platform so that I can send you pictures
@alix18172 ай бұрын
YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB WITH YOUR VIDEOS...I ENJOY WATCHING THEM...MY BOX OF COMFY'S ARE ON THE WAY LOLOL...❤❤❤
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@alix1817 yes has a soak cycle that might help if there on the dirty side.
@alix18172 ай бұрын
@@petermaz701 OMG WELL I NEVER LOLOLOL
@DeansWasherVideosАй бұрын
I was talking to my friend Luke in NZ about maytags and refered him to this video, I think it's a great comparison because he wasn't that familiar with helical transmissions.
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@DeansWasherVideos helical rules!!! Lol
@erg8442 ай бұрын
That's why vintage washers will always win and these manufacturers still don't get it. Did they ever realized what great machines these Maytags were? Probably or probably not. I love both washers. They're my adorable friends 😊
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@erg844 it's all for cost saving and generating revenue. The bottom line is to do machines are cheaper to build and cost the company less money.
@nbk57raАй бұрын
I had this one it’s not as good as the older one but it still was a very good machine washed very well
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@nbk57ra I agree it's a very good machine, but the older version is still my favorite.
@pontiac38gmАй бұрын
Man that butterscotch one... sounds soo soothing. A video with that one only ... id totally knock out 😂
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@pontiac38gm The one on the right in Harvest Gold is the oldest. Are you referring to the middle one in Almond? Thats a really smooth machine.
@pontiac38gmАй бұрын
@petermaz701 the one with smooth and semi slow agitation... so soothing
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@pontiac38gm yes that's my favorite. And the oldest of the group.
@pontiac38gmАй бұрын
@@petermaz701 do you have a video with that machine only ?
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@pontiac38gm no I have more videos you got a look they're there
@augustowaters28662 ай бұрын
I will show you all of my collection later on!!!
@CrestwoodRocks2 ай бұрын
the older maytag is better
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@CrestwoodRocks yes I have to agree with you. The older long strokes on the vintage machine has a better turnover.
@sandraperez-f2j18 күн бұрын
Old skool.
@Dougc31572 ай бұрын
I would get the load sensor agitator for this machine, it will really turn over a large load wirh no issue. Great machine.
@maxyang-y2p22 күн бұрын
i want more videos on this
@petermaz70122 күн бұрын
@@maxyang-y2p I will try thank you
@chineeboy182 ай бұрын
The orbital has shorter faster agitation strokes while the helical is slower and longer. I think the orbital transmission was more built for the dual action agitator. The helical is the older model which was built for the single straight vane agitator. Those are two great machines. 💯❤️🥳
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@chineeboy18 thank you so much. I'm so glad I found one in such good condition, like new.
@Italman45Ай бұрын
The gold machine turn clothes over much better and looks like less wear and tear on the clothes. Agitator is not as neurotic as the what machine !
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@Italman45 yes I agree with you the long stroke harvest gold maytag turns the clothes much smoother.
@papadopАй бұрын
Honestly, I can never make up my mind.
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@papadop I love the orbital however, there's something about the original that I find you can't beat!
@peterh548529 күн бұрын
You can see on the pitman washer the clothes being pulled toward the end of each stroke. I’ve always found this to be rough, especially on long things like sheets and pants. Orbitals don’t do that and are so much gentler IMHO.
@petermaz70129 күн бұрын
@@peterh5485 the orbitals are much smoother, running machines very quiet. But the Pittman washers have better turnover, if you have heavily soiled things I think that it probably cleans better.
@peterh548529 күн бұрын
@@petermaz701 I found the turnover is about the same. Mush better with the Load Sensor. The wash may be better in the pitman, but the toll on the clothes is worse.
@petermaz70129 күн бұрын
I actually took the load sensor out of the orbital. I put the original Agitator back in. I think it works better.
@thomaszinecker-m3y2 ай бұрын
It should also be noted that both machines are helical “drive”……meaning they use a screw to engage the transmission during agitation and when the motor reverses the transmission is not engaged for spin. The proper difference is the transmission itself, not the drive system. The older long stroke version used a pitman gear….and is such described as the pitman transmission VS the newer fast stroke orbital transmission. Again, both are helical drive.
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@thomaszinecker-m3y thanks I never knew that, cause I heard mention Pittman transmission, but I thought that was the helical transmission. Thanks for clarifying.. so they are both helical transmission but one is the orbital and the other is the Pitman. 👍🏻
@patcola73352 ай бұрын
If you want to see the real mettle these machines have then load them up to capacity. Fill both tubs and THEN see the difference between the turnover between the 2 Maytags. Let’s see which Maytag can turn over the largest load.
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@patcola7335 I don't have enough to make it an equal run bad enough, I had to buy another beach towel. I'm not buying anymore. 🤣😂😝
@patcola73352 ай бұрын
@@petermaz701 Just do a big mixed load of pants,shirts, towels etc…take one for the team ! Load those suckers up.
@jeromedavis85752 ай бұрын
The orbital reminds me of the whirlpool and later GE.
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@jeromedavis8575 definitely reminds me of the whirlpool/Kenmore family of direct drives
@jeromedavis85752 ай бұрын
@@petermaz701 If you still have the GE, I'd like to hear it with the mini basket on small load size with the machine on normal speed and regular cycle with the pan on top and the lid shut for the memories.
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@jeromedavis8575 yes I have the GE. I'm not getting rid of that. I love the machine.
@jeromedavis85752 ай бұрын
@@petermaz701 I love it too. I love how the mini basket sounds with the filter pan on top and set to small and normal speed with the lid shut. That includes with a load in it also.
@limitedx37762 ай бұрын
Could you switch the agitators out and put them in the other?
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@limitedx3776 at first I thought you were talking about the GE I put the straight vain agitator in and took out the ramp agitator. Which agitator were you talking about in the Maytag?
@limitedx37762 ай бұрын
@@petermaz701 taking the a610 and putting it in the 9804 just to see potential wash differences
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@limitedx3776 yeah I could do that sometime the reason I'm a little reluctant is because on the 9804 you have to unscrew the agitator and on the 610 you just pop it off. I don't want to strip that screw because it's going into plastic by doingthat too often.
@thomaszinecker-m3y2 ай бұрын
Whether it’s wishful thinking or just a trick of the eye, the 9804 indeed has a wider cabinet, larger lid and a wider mouth opening to the tub with a redesigned tub cover and a redesigned balance ring at the top of the wash basket compared to the A610. However, there is zero difference in usable capacity between the two machines. Same cubic feet. 19 gallons for max fill as set by the factory. Even though the 9804 is designated Ultra Capacity …..the wash basket capacity is identical to the A610. The wider tub opening just gives the illusion of being larger.
@thomaszinecker-m3y2 ай бұрын
The only Maytags ( prior to the Whirlpool take over) that had a larger capacity than the Newton IA classic Maytags …..were the Herrin IL built Norge”tag” machines
@thomaszinecker-m3y2 ай бұрын
For those who would quibble with me…..I am referring to top loaders built in Newton, only and not referring to any Neptunes, Front or Top loaders
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@thomaszinecker-m3y wow it definitely is though a trick of the eye because I find that the 9804 seems roomier than the 610. It really does trick the eye and the brain. Lol 😂
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@thomaszinecker-m3y hi I did some investigating this morning with my two machines. The cabinets are exactly the same size. The tub in the 9804 is wider and shallower than the tub in the 610 which is deeper. Thus the 9804 looks bigger when you open up the lid because it's wider the agitator comes up higher in the tub. Whereas the agitator in the 610 seems lower in the tub because of the height difference in the two tub, never realized it until you pointed it out.
@thomaszinecker-m3y2 ай бұрын
The base of the agitator on the 9804 is a lot smaller than the base of the turquoise power fin on the A610…..this also adds to the illusion. It was felt that the base/skirt of the power fin would cause too much drag on the transmission with the short stroke. The short stroke also overpowered the tub brake during agitation ….causing the tub to creep with the larger agitator. I am also guilty of describing the agitation of the orbital transmission as short/fast…..when it should only be described as SHORT. In reality…..the agitator is traveling at the exact same speed in either direction as with the Pittman transmission ……it is another trick of the eye that it’s faster because the stroke is dramatically shorter. Regarding capacity, I suppose I forgot to mention the thankfully short lived Amana-tags. They also had a larger capacity than Newton built machines. The usable capacity as far as washability is concerned can be increased on the orbital by installing a Load Sensor corkscrew agitator. I really didn’t pay attention in the videos as to each machines maximum fill. If they are still at factory settings and haven’t been adjusted or creeped out of calibration…….without a load…..fill one machine to max fill….then stick the drain hose into the tub of the other…..and spin the water from one, into the other. The water level on the barrel of the agitator should be the same….somewhere in the middle of the top or 4th filter hole.
@rodman18112 ай бұрын
Why did they change to the orbital transmission. I’ve never been a fan of short stroke agitation
@petermaz7012 ай бұрын
@@rodman1811 I agree with you 100% I prefer the older transmission better. They did it to compete with whirlpool who just had come out with the direct drives. It seems that Maytag and whirlpool always had some sort of competition.
@joeyjennings9548Ай бұрын
liquid fabric softener is not good for both the washer & dryer. its like candle wax it traps in dirt in the outer drum makes it smell like mold after a while & messes up agitator "dog ears" on ratcheting agitators. in the dryer it evaporates leaves sticky layer of wax then lint till it causes a blockage.. plus its wax which burns. WHEN it gets too much goes on fire its hard to put out and thats if you have it apart with water.. use dryer sheets ONLY. difference between both the older has more of a agitator swing like half turn to maybe a quarter turn i think less swing put less strain on the parts. but the older washer had a stronger transmission. over years the grease got thicker causing a drag & belt wear. just like the old whirlpool belt drive washers transmissions.
@petermaz701Ай бұрын
@@joeyjennings9548 thanks for the info I do appreciate it. I don't use it all the time, I do have dryer sheets as well.