MAZAK MILL AUDIT l 9 wire dual voltage electric motor wiring

Spec'ing gear to get the mill running. An electrical schematic sure would help!

[@TheOregonOutlaw]

She's getting relaxed... poor old girl has NO CLUE what's ahead!

[@TheOregonOutlaw]

Then it's lucky for lass, her suitor is larger on verse then tool length. Not to worry about later laps ..... old Dew Claw's skilled in filling those areas of concern.

[@leroyjase4013]

You prolly dont care but if you are bored like me atm you can stream pretty much all the latest movies and series on Instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf during the lockdown xD

[@jefferyapollo1411]

@Leroy Jase yup, been watching on Instaflixxer for since december myself :D

[@camtheham13]

Climatization is a very important part of the process, you have to get used to its location so you don't trip over it, a process that will be lengthened by the hospital visit that would result from tripping over that monster, you also have to let the other machines sniff it and decide its not a threat, otherwise they decide to act out by having intermittent electrical problems and breaking tooling and projects

[@kdoe1305]

camtheham13 Just rub the control panel door and say nice things to her. She’ll treat you right.

[@camtheham13]

K Doe yeah that works sometimes but when the one hp Bridgeport sees the shiny new 5 hp euro style mill, it is going to take a little more than a pat, you may have to buy her a new vfd

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

This is why I put my radial arm saw off in the corner of the room and let it season. Can't have my CMS getting jealous and nibbling thumbs.

[@thomas316]

Yes, right...now the terroir is well established can I suggest it's time to have a cup of tea and put on your anorak? As a former boffin gawking at a box full of floating, unmarked wires doesn't half give me a sense of foreboding.

[@TheGarbageman22]

I have a an old Kearny treaker that has been seasoning nicely for some time now I'm not sure if the other things in that building have accepted it yet I should probably let it sit a bit more. at least I didn't leave it in my wife's parking spot like somebody else we know😏

[@rjprescott4742]

I love how you deal with electrical issues, I worked for just under 35 years in a power plant retiring from the Control Room. It was my job to put (as you call them) the angry pixies in the wires. I have a very deep understanding of how it all works, having said that hearing your description I realize that you are oh so very technically correct you just don’t use industry jargon and as a result many people without my background understand it. I have turned several of my former coworkers on to your channel they also enjoy it.

[@Yes-ng6rf]

What a fantastic video, I'm an electchicken myself and often get left with someone elses "it's all too hard", boxes full of disconnected wires, brilliant explanation.

[@cylosgarage]

Wow hearing a different voice coming from an AvE video has me shook

[@stevejohnson1685]

Dewclaw Williams, evidently!

[@motor2of7]

I recently came across an early AvE vijao, not realizing it was AvE. I heard his voice and it was familiar but it really didn’t sound like him. He also didn’t have the unique vocabulary.

[@siconic21]

Jeff Motor2of7 He has come a long way since his humble beginings!

[@johnforrestboone1]

ghasp!!

[@eclipsegaming5998]

Cylo's Garage what about his daughter

[@outdoorstylelife]

"peeling the foresking back to reveal the smegma within"... Chapeau

[@Fletcher91]

As someone not doing anything in the machinery field (software engineering), the simplicity and ingenuity of splitting the one Y to two Y's got me shed a little tear. Just beautiful

[@Ishiku__aka_xchoibitschibihil]

Thom van Kalkeren cool now go make some parts in auto desk inventor and build it on a mill. Easier said than done.

[@genericuser9652]

Same thought!

[@ZylonFPV]

Some people tend to their house plants Some people water their grass AvE tends to his rusty nuts And not just the ones in his pants

[@outseeker]

"by his ass" instead of "in his pants"?

[@trollforge]

outseeker is there a reason to prefer ABCB over ABCA?

[@outseeker]

QQ

[@godfreypoon5148]

+TrollForge It's a result of preferring too much ABBA.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Hey, it's all better than CACA.

[@carpespasm]

For those in the know: all decent treadmills have been using 3 phase motors and VFDs for about a decade now. Usually at about 380v on the HV DC rail.

[@scottbertalan425]

I never understood what was going on in a 3 phase motor that has 9 wires sticking out of it. I've been around plenty of them, but had no clue to their particulars. Now I understand completely! Thanks for the knowledge!

[@esmith9902]

Finally that monster milling machine that I watched you unload through the crack of my fingers. Thank you

[@strongsadventures]

Speaking as an electchicken you didn’t have enough beer for him to stay and figure this shit out. LOL. It takes us at least a case to figure this out after hours.

[@EdWolfram]

Where were you 20 years ago when I needed to learn all this. Keep up the vids and thanks for educating.

[@KamiCrit]

Really enjoying the induction motor videos! Looking forward to learning more than just replacing bearings.

[@Taylor-op8tv]

This is great stuff man. I wish my journeymen had explained things in such an approachable way. Electrical work doesn't have to be complicated. Looking forward to the progress on this one.

[@genericuser9652]

Wow. That all made perfect sense!! My understanding of 3 phase motor wiring just increased 10 fold!!!

[@Garfield100]

Props for making it understandable to the back-row-all-the-way-in-the-corner-seats and making it funny enough to actually keep their attention.

[@bluecat-gn1nd]

Ave u have saved my company so much money new to the field in maintanence and your videos have helped me a lot thanks bro

[@stevemcentyre1570]

Good to see that you have swerved ever so elegantly into the correct path.

[@patwicker1358]

Very good explanation! I get it now, I didn't realize at low voltage we were just creating 2 wyes in parallel.

[@istvanmeissler2238]

Just read a lot of your comments. You sure have a lot of smart subscribers! Watching your videos and reading the comments is like watching a foreign film. I'm not understanding much of it, but I can't stop watching because I JUST KNOW what is being said is interesting and important!!

[@TheInfoworks]

Brilliant, this takes it to the next very clear level. I did a series on running a 3 phase motor on single phase and this takes it to the next stage with very clear analitics. Rather than changing the motor wiring from Star to delta on a 6 wire motor the decrease in coil resistance is achieved by the parallel connections, but only with a 9 wire motor. Cheers, Andy

[@leebatt7964]

Such good advice Ave. I train a lot of young kids just out of school. I cant get over how many of them will spend inordinate amounts of time searching on their phones for wiring diagrams of circuits that are very basic and simple to figure out. You’ve got a meter, you’ve got a pen and paper, you’ve probably got a brain, use them, figure it out, you might actually learn something and it might actually stick in your head.

[@waynechirnside1831]

You did good AVE. I'm into electronics but never three phase industrial electric. Despite that your explanation and the way you broke it down I followed it it all the way through. With a copy of your schematics I'm reasonably confident I could duplicate your audit. The one thing working to my advantage was learning boolean logic gate truth tables in my youth. Thanks.

[@norass411]

All the AvE vids are fun and entertaining but this thing looks like its going to be absolutely jammed with teachable moments for us who don't know jack about electronicals. Looking forward to more already!

[@texasdeeslinglead2401]

Heck man , I've been letting my master bathroom remodel warm for five years 😄

[@klax0421]

Gotta wait at least 25 years for the foundation to properly settle so it does not mess up the tile later on.

[@gc7782]

I can relate🤣🤣🤣

[@ryanmg92]

klax0421 baby darling sweetheart....I would love to do that diy project you need, but I'm waiting on settlement and a replacement wankle valve

[@paulbillings1791]

I'm waiting on the radiator bearings to break in before I go further than the beer store.

[@jmurphy1973]

"Have at it!" Done it, works every time.

[@dave9902]

You are a great teacher dude. Wish I had you in shop class as a mentor....

[@Nono-hk3is]

Clearly that was a picture of a flux capacitor.

[@DarkRaptor99]

I was going to make that joke dang it!!

[@15743_Hertz]

So if you're not careful with your equations and the mill travels on a lateral plane at a speed of 88 MPH, does that mean you could accidentally end up in 1955? Please tell me doctor, where are we going this time?

[@cafenightster4548]

Once this mill hits 8,800 rip'ems, your gonna see some crazy shit.

[@WeighedWilson]

he clearly stated that all the flux leaked out of the capacitor and that's why the wyers are no longer labeled.

[@15743_Hertz]

All I wanted to do, was play my guitar and sing.

[@cicibradley2809]

Please don't let the smoke out..... of yourself Uncle B.

[@drew5505]

Awesome video. I never understood 3 phase and, the way you explained it made it click. As soon as I saw that first y drawing the pieces fell into place.

[@coombsfh]

Videos like this give me the confidence to shove a Spanner or spewdriver where the sun don't shine whilst at work. Pumps, boilers, valves, augers (threw a shovel down one the other day); the world is my lobster.

[@CUclimber]

Learning more here than I did in circuits class in college.

[@FixItStupid]

Right

[@j-man72b72]

An Elechickens tip for labeling wires in a greasy/oily location. Don't wrap the tag around the wire, the oil will separate the sticky side from the smooth side in short order. The trick is to flag the wire, fold the tag over the wire, sticky side to sticky side, this will stick together much better. Another option if you don't have wire markers, use white electrical tape for flags and a sharpie for the outer coils, yellow tape flags for the inner coils.

[@gwick358]

The Wye motor is the hardest by far. I like seeing you do this.

[@Flymochairman1]

That's a Flux Core Capacitor you drew and it needs 1.21GigaWatts!!! !:^) Great explanation of 3-phase AvE. Cheers!

[@rhilianis5811]

"the only correct reply, 'Give 'er'" amen brother!!!

[@hightower2537]

best teacher I've ever had, Thanks!

[@blair.nichols]

Awesome explaination of 3 phase motors! It finally clicked for me! Now time to get into the guts of one of my motors to see for myself! You sir are a good man! Owe you a dram, so if your ever in scotland hit me up!

[@evenwagner2839]

Man I may not know what one of your videos is going to be about and I may not even know by the end but I sure as hell learned something along the way. On top of that I had fun doing it. Keep up these quality videos!

[@neutrodyne]

Trying to figure out the wiring on a 3 phase multi voltage motor can be a real head ache especially getting all the winding phased correctly. You did a good job on breaking it down.

[@BarnacleBrown]

8:18 I had no idea people knew this much about flux capacitors.

[@akfarmboy49]

I like how you explained motor wiring.

[@raymondmucklow3793]

Thank you, you answered my question. I had asked a question about neutral , in your last 3 phase video. But the cockford-ollie was your drawing (the second one). I got it now.

[@robr3015]

I can't wait for the VFD teardown/explanation video!

[@crossthreadrethread3472]

awesome vijeo the 9 copper tubes full of magic pixie smoke actually make sense in my head now.

[@IamXeRiuM]

I've wired 100s of motors 90% at 480volt. I never new how to determine which wire was which if not labeled. Thanks a lot man.

[@mikef8769]

That the best explanation of 3 phase power I have ever heard. My father is a lifelong elechicken! He only confused me. A sincere thanks AvE!!

[@ihateemael]

good job mate . . . love it!! ps: you forgot to mention the vf part of the vfd. Love your vids thanks.

[@makitadog]

is this the machine your neighbors watched you struggle moving?

[@Metalcastr]

Finally someone can explain it well, I'm starting to grasp it. It seems most industrial tech book authors have never touched the equipment, because they can't explain it in a meaningful way.

[@88JVZ]

I work on golf carts for a living. I'd love to see you go through one. A lot of the same kind of stuff that you take apart.

[@DELUS10NAL]

Please do a delta vs wye vidjeo!!! No matter how many times I read the wikipedia page, it never sticks. I think if it's explained to me in canadian, I just might get it

[@josift1283]

Westley Davis I coulda sworn he did already?

[@raymondmucklow3793]

Westley Davis I didn't get it either, but on this one I got it, watch it again. Take a hard look at the second drawing he does. It hit me like brick.

[@CyberlightFG]

Westley Davis Just look at one phase. You got 2 coils for low voltage inside the motor. If you put them in series, you get 1 coil with high voltage. Put them in parallel, you get 1 coil with low voltage for that phase. To get the same power, that coil needs twice the current now compared to the windings in series. Now watch the video again.

[@DELUS10NAL]

Thanks man. I watched it again (without any beers in me) and read up a bit. I get it now. I appreciate the detailed reply.

[@raymondmucklow3793]

Westley Davis obviously frank gets it more than i. But I got it, maybe elecchicken for hire

[@dacianchronolog4104]

YES! Excellent vid. I ran across this. 128 ports of WTF Ethernet Switch in the rack. 6 racks next to each other. No one labelled anything no letter no number nothing. I printed out two pages of wingdings and tagged the port and cable with the scotch tape and a "emoji" paired. To try make sense of what shmoo was confabulated on inside the tunnel of tunnels. I think my plan went too well as other consultants started to do the same type of documenting. Documenting like this is kinda like having witness marks on work pieces to line things up correctly. P.S. It was contract for worldcomm.

[@jesusivanperezmejia6753]

Great vidheeeyo as always!! Thank you AVE ( we know you are Rick from Backroom Casting Couch) Thanks friend!!!

[@63256325N]

I never could grasp electrical wiring. My pee brain just doesn't get it. Thanks for the video. Hats off to the guys that do get it. Hope you get it running.

[@dizzolve]

AVE thx for this video ....... it's pertinent to what I'm working on right now. .... perfect

[@bsandy88]

Mazaks are awesome man. I have been working on them for almost 10 years. We use them in out caterpillar transmission plant. They are good machines. And the mazatrols are top notch controls. Second only to fanuc. 840d is obviously last lol but ive had enough experiece to say mazak is a great choice.

[@matthewmarting3623]

Finally, the 2015 vintage mill is done aging! I’ve been waiting patiently for this. I think it will pair well with red wine. Who am I kidding, Guinness will go so much better with the high sulfur oil fumes.

[@42mohawks6]

What a disgustingly great video. Great job.

[@djberg3483]

Thanks again for the very useful lesson!

[@98durangopack]

Love your videos man!!

[@XplorerSteveDIY]

So, it’s a cross between a Yamaha and a Kawasaki?

[@daftnord4957]

and suzuki somewhere in the middle

[@matthewautton1472]

six of those wires are paired anyway as one of each is the tail end of a motor coil. you can eliminate most of them belling out the motor to find out which point you need to mount your U V W wires, star and delta can be done with bridge plates. looking forward to your video on the motor wiring.

[@joe44272]

Shmoo leaking into the box is a bad thing? Wow you do learn something every day.

[@billsmith5166]

What was there about this mill that you found appealing? If you get it running, and apply brake, you're going to turn your front yard into your backyard, and everyone in your neighborhood that was watching TV is going to come out of their house rubbing their eyes to get vision back.

[@arduinoversusevil2025]

EXACTLY!

[@gl1500ctv]

Nice Fluke Scopemeter! Good tools!

[@dood9971]

It's nice to know you have friends

[@subex9743]

Some of your one liners are comedy gold

[@arthurjohnson3438]

Mazak made some beautiful machines, treat er well

[@scottbrown654]

Great explanation of wye! Thank you!

[@panykfelidae9018]

I work on this critter's big, modern, robiticized uncle. They've only gotten more skookum over the years, we forgive ours for being confuserlerized because of how much it puts up with. Drilling at speeds that'd be rapid on the other ones in the shop... beautiful.

[@AustinTheTerrible]

A man and his mill can remake the world.

[@zeedezerow566]

Great video as always!

[@landspide]

Down under, we call them elechickens, sparkies... we will adopt that Norman’s clencher.

[@Womenooo]

Thank you for breaking everything, I don't know is going on, down to a basic school level, I realy like you rambling along but half the time have no idea whats going on, and I assure you, it is not the language barrier, eventhough yours is a weird dialect :-)

[@20cricket09]

frickin arsome expolnation....helped me a ton on this one..thx

[@GibClark]

Nicely done 👍👍👍

[@AnonCh4r1i]

Been wating for this vidja for a LONG time :-)

[@KXC42069]

i understood about 9 words in this vijayo... still enjoyed!

[@matttradie1341]

Salty seamen always end up causing trouble when your least expecting it......

[@JoeyG1973]

Choose, but choose wisely. A 3hp VFD is still around 200-250. You would need one of those for each machine in your shop. Granted you do get the benefit of motor speed control, but it is cost prohibitive if you have 3 or more machines. You can get a 7.5 hp rotary convertor for around 600. Also if you wind up with an older CNC machine the computer and electronics in them don't like to take the stairs and much prefer the butter smooth wave. The VFD can cause miscalculation in the old electronics or even worse let the smoke out as they were never designed to take the stairs. Both have their places and a VFD is an awesome device. But being that us tinkerers/makers/gear heads/geeks tend to rummage around for the right deal and then pounce, a rotary my be a better investment in the long run. Choose what is best for you.

[@chexstix]

Joe Garcia This video was brilliant and now for the first time I understand the windings inside a 3-phase motor. But I bought a 7hp rotary phase converter for less than $400 and it was brain-dead simple to set up and I can run two machines at once(as long as I don't start them together.) I'm now the only guy in the neighborhood with 3 phase power! I guess what I'm saying is that your comment is exactly spot on. Thanks!

[@DougHanchard]

I can hardly wait to see this Mazak running. I sure hope it remains torquey enuff to make some chips after the VFD is installed!

[@furbydeath24]

I wanted to send u some awesome pics from port Huron Michigan today looking into the Empire of dirt..... yes folks canadia lol

[@jerrylong381]

I thought you were going to delve into Wye-Delta start when I saw the title. But great vid regardless. I don't get pressure (much) from management. But I get the junior mechanics behind me, asking questions and giving their theories of the problem and solution. Which is usually OK, I'm the lead so it's my job to train these guys. But sometimes we run into something that I haven't seen or haven't seen in 15 yrs, so I need some quite time alone with the patient to get my head around what's going on. At those times I gotta tell them to let me figure it out, and THEN I'll walk them through it and try to explain my troubleshooting sequence. Unfortunately I can't just hand them the meter and say there you go (usually) because they will, and I end up with more problems from someone getting tunnel vision thinking it's GOTTA BE a hydraulic issue when it's really an eletrical control problem, or vise versa. Then I do hear from management. WOW, I musta been holding some shit in. Thanks for letting me vent.

[@62chevrolet]

Ah, the luxury of shipboard service.

[@HindsightFPV]

This video is WAY above my pay grade, brain is failing to chooch and yet I still enjoyed whatever the hell AvE is yapping about.

[@marshallgibson7817]

Congrats on making the magic pixie stuff more confusing... I have no fucking idea what's going on...

[@bukinnear]

Stick around for long enough and you start learning things via osmosis

[@mjaerkens]

I fucking love this channel. Just discovered it, very nice man!

[@Max_Marz]

Woah never thought I'd see this thing again..

[@sfduggan89]

I am going to make my apprentice watch this. It is better then they tech us in school.

[@revb0]

At your best!!! Very useful, thanks

[@silicon212]

Love the Silence of the Lambs reference.

[@JBFromOZ]

I learned one! cheers mate!

[@johncox9660]

Loved this video deep industrial teck innards .

[@Noodleude]

oohoho! been waiting for this!

[@davidhelmuth7654]

Damn!! Just had a flashback to when I was an industrial electrician and millwright trying to explain stuff to the rookies and supervisors!!! 😂😂😂

[@liftcadet]

Respect.....nothing but respect!

[@wdesign1189]

This must be Canadian intuition. Just the series from just the guy at just the time. We’ll have a Bridgeport in the shop yet!

[@jraschke]

Holy shit... it makes sense now. THANK YOU