Mazda's SEXY Coupe is Patented // New MX-5 Miata looks THIS good!?

[@ToeCutter0]

I've worked in automotive IT sales in SE MI for nearly 30 years and I've seen quite a few prototypes and concept cars develop into rolling production cars. This video from Kirk is the clearest indication so far that Mazda is far more serious than I initially believed about incorporating design elements from ISP into the next Miata. The patent images are a dead giveaway that this could much farther into development than many of us assumed. The greenhouse in the patent image is far more production ready, as is the front fascia and hood. I figured we'd lose some of the depth of the hood as the ISP's is incredibly deep (compared to wheel arches) and low to ground. Even so, the integrated air dam in grill has survived and represents a new design language for Miata's front fascia. I could go on and on, but it appears Mazda is heeding all the praise being heaped on the Iconic SP's gorgeous sheetmetal and incorporating elements into the new Miata. I still can't help thinking that we'll see an RX model that utilizes the ISP's hybrid drive train. There's just too much symbolism with the style, the rotary, etc to abandon the RX series before going full EV. It's difficult to believe that it's Mazda creating some of the best looking and most accessible vehicles in 2020s, but here we are. I've not been this excited for a Mazda since I ordered my 1991 Mazda Miata Base for $17,500 and had to wait a month for it to arrive from Japan. Ah, the good old days!

[@milanseratlic8982]

Just saw a CX-60 earlier today, they're still pretty rare here in Germany, but the design on it with the full black exterior got me turning my view to the mirrors of my car, even tho I hate SUV's from the bottom of my hearth. Amazing design they have nowadays!

[@kabysummit5801]

I like Mazda designs going to production chances more than any other Japanese automakers

[@Wafflelover344]

I hope the production model is as good as the concept. Could be the most beautiful affordable (hopefully) sports car!

[@lanceareadbhar]

Just don't expect it to or you will be disappointed. If you don't compare it to the concept car, it will look a lot better when it's revealed.

[@KennethReynolds-d4u]

And don’t expect it to be cheap!

[@subieasunayuuki]

Keep expectations low to avoid disappointment and to possibly even be surprised if it's significantly better than what you expected

[@markcoopers1930]

Given the power, dimensions, and weight of the concept, it would be a direct Supra 6-cylinder/Cayman S competitor. And those start 55k and 80k without options and destination charge.

[@faheemabbas3965]

But will it even have true engine-to-wheel propulsion?

[@aurorajones8481]

3:15 Not True Kirk. They need DRL's in addition to the popups. If you look closely at that light housing then go to the lower left where it drops into the black well... hugging the left is the DRL. Im not saying they cant do what you said I'm saying its not necessary w/ that you can have them down until the main lights come on and they pop up. Meanwhile you get that nice DRL tucked away. I love it.

[@sunahamanagai9039]

I would like this to be the RX-9.

[@andycalifornia426]

If it's eletric, it doesn't matter what they call it. If it were ICE, better Miata because who wants an unreliable rotary.

[@eugenux]

it would better be called rx7

[@SLOBeachboy]

@@andycalifornia426 - Actually I owned a 3rd gen RX-7 for more than 20 years and it was an extremely reliable car. I even dove it from coast to coast once. Obviously of course a rotary engine is more susceptible to damage from overheating but as long as you maintain your cooling system (belts, hoses, radiator, etc) you are not going to have a problem with that. And on the early RX-8’s they did not have sufficient oil injection and by the time they fixed the problem on later models the damage to its reputation had already been done. In any case I hope this new design is not going to be a Miata because the Miatas are never made to fit tall people. For example, I love the current generation Miata but at 6'-2" tall I simply cannot fit comfortably in one.

[@bumbo_igor]

the next rotary sports car will probably be called the rx-7 just because of the size. Mazda has "classes" like BMW where the mazda3 is smaller than the mazda5 and the 5 is smaller 6. if it was a rx-9 then it would be even larger than a rx-8, something like the older mercedes cls 4 door coupes. i also dont see mazda making a rx8 style car, nobody really wants a midsized car (at least in north america). which is why i think the next rotary will be called the rx-7

[@SLOBeachboy]

@@bumbo_igor - Actually originally the progression of the RX models never had anything to do with size. The number simply went up with each new generation of rotary powered car. The RX-2, 3, and 4 were small lightweight coupes and sedans and the RX-5 (Cosmo) was a two-seat sports car which was eventually replaced by the RX-7. But then of course they stopped doing this and the RX-7 nameplate stuck around for each coming generation of that two-seat rotary powered sports car. So, because of that I would tend to agree that any new rotary powered two-seat sports car from Mazda would of course be called an RX-7. And if they made a new rotary powered 4-seat coupe or sedan someday it would be an RX-8. And the Miata will of course always be an MX-5. So basically, if this new car has a conventional power plant it will be an MX-5 and if it has a rotary engine driving the wheels (even in hybrid form) it will be an RX-7. However, if as suspected, it turns out to be a series hybrid in which the gasoline engine only turns a generator and is not actually connected to the wheels then who knows what they will name it. We will just have to wait and see I guess.

[@John-kx3ng]

Whatever this is, Mazda needs to bring this to market, it would definitely sell. I personally would love to see it as an RX-7.

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

I think it's best if they just Simply Call it just RX, with no numbers

[@ii_dynasty]

​​@xXVibrantSnowXx sounds familiar. Also, I do believe lexus has the rx name plate rn.

[@yankee2yankee216]

The only problems with making it an RX-7 are that RX-7s are more expensive than Miatas, so available to fewer customers, and the RX-7 has a rotary engine, which is thirstier and less reliable than the alternatives. That it is a dedicated coupe argues against it being a Miata.

[@ii_dynasty]

@yankee2yankee216 depends on how big the production model is. It could also be offered in a convertible later on.

[@peteroxley4973]

A new Mx5 must be a full convertible, whether it be a PRHT as in the NC, or a rag top. But not a targa top as in the RF ND. The Iconic looks spectacular and the RX 7 nomenclature would be more fitting.

[@apophisstr6719]

I just love the fact that Mazda continues to embrace the curvy and simplistic designs of classic european sport cars, they had this sexiness and passion that the big chunks of boxy/angular designs of most cars nowadays didn't have.

[@blackcow8114]

my god it looks gorgeous no matter how many times I look at it

[@TrevorWilliams215]

A note on the 3/4 rear view. You mentioned the rear glass might be different, but I think it’s more or less the same. The patent image is likely an orthographic render from some CAD software. The perspective of the camera lenses from the concept just make it appear different.

[@stevenjames1138]

Would love to see the return of pop-up headlights! The concept is quite beautiful. Hope it makes it to production. And not strictly as an EV.

[@John-kx3ng]

Mazda needs to keep production close to the concept, remember the concept for the current 3 and how close it was to production?

[@thebarofsoapIG]

I think this is the larger sports car (RX-7/8) successor. I really like it. It looks like it costs $200k, not $60k like I expect. I think the Miata will take curs from this though. If it does, I’m right in line for one.

[@Zyzhen]

Wow that looks out of this world... hope it looks like that in production!

[@rjbiker66]

The patent isnt for the entire car its for certain design features. Im guessing the front grill and rear tail lights.

[@alaskamc5979]

If the new Miata looks like that with a PRHT, take my money!! But the "iconic" looks more like an FD RX-7.

[@Tigerex966]

Looks like the Pixar car from Cars?😊

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

Zoom Zoom forever......

[@lindapipe8112]

Given the cost of developing design ‘language’, voids in the sport car market, and prototypes of the Na Miata and design ideas that were taken from the FD Rx-7 ( a long time ago I know) why wouldn’t this morph into two cars? Leverage the incredible design of this prototype.

[@aceofspades6667]

I’m not convinced this being the next Miata… I’m an nd2 owner and love it. Can’t wait to see the NE

[@MrMightyZ]

That concept looks beautiful. I’ll be surprised if it ends up being that wide but I hope it ends up 1:1

[@nintendoatarikiller]

I think they could revive the MX-6 name with this body and the I6 powertrain. It was a 2 door coupe with 6 cylinders so it already has that heritage established.

[@Zaphael]

I think Mazda's are some of the nicest looking new cars on the road today. I've been tempted many times by the current gen MX5. An MX5 coupe based on this (or whatever it ends up being called) would be INCREDIBLY tempting. I love the Iconic SP design so much!

[@vpx23]

Maybe the MX-6 is coming back? 😊

[@tedadamgreen]

My thoughts exactly!

[@mofayer]

Makes sense, maybe the mx6 will be the coupe version of the mx5.

[@mofayer]

And maybe they'll throw in the turbo 4 into mx6 since body rigidity won't be an issue.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

When I was in college, I owned an old second-gen MX-6. When I saw the concept, I thought of a modern take on the MX-6 -- except that the MX-6 was a traditional coupe with a backseat. I don't see that in this car. It looks like a two-seater. My guess is that it would be an RX-7.

[@vpx23]

@@ccchhhrrriiisss100 You're probably right, I guess the "Iconic" is pointing at the RX-7 (FD). The MX-6 was never iconic. 😊

[@fuji598]

I love the SP concept, but everyone knows it's not a miata. Mazda knows their audience, and mazda understands what the miata is supposed to be. It's for the same reason that the miata is still 2300-2400lbs and has a lightweight, reasonable power, free-revving naturally aspirated motor. Something would have had to have gone seriously wrong during the decision making process up top for this to end up as the NE. I could, however, see them using styling cues from the SP in the next gen, like the lights and grill. Having an RX and an MX-5 in the lineup sharing similar styling cues would make for an awesome combo :)

[@markcoopers1930]

Yes, Mazda released the stats on the concept when it debuted. The weight and power were aimed right at the Supra 6 cylinder and Cayman S. This is likely not a next gen miata. Plus a convertible is sort of a key part of the miata equation

[@James-pl2oy]

This is great news to wake up to on a rainy Sunday! Yeah, the main takeaway I get from seeing concepts go into production form is how watered down they become to meet fed regulations. Concepts are more focused on the overall design study and have exaggerated wheels/tires and small side mirrors as to not detract from the body styling. The only recent concepts I can think of that made it to production relatively unscathed from concept form are the BMW I8 and Lexus LC500. Let’s hope this Iconic SP joins their ranks 🤞 because that’s one helluva sexy sports coupe

[@coffeecupwithtea]

Keep in mind, the orthographic view is going to look very different than a real life picture, where things closer to the camera will look larger. Notice how the back of the cabin looks much smaller than the front, so the wheel arches are going to look much larger in real life than the orthographic view, even if they are similar in size.

[@adam145]

Yeah, patent images are orthographic views so that nothing can be misrepresented by an unusual lens setting on the rendering.

[@Spiraling1358]

Exactly. Plus the much less reflective grey color hides a lot of the features. I'm excited about how close this is looking to the concept.

[@coffeecupwithtea]

@@Spiraling1358 same. If they make a Miata that looks like this concept, I may have to get one!

[@polloi84]

Turbo 4cyl or NA 6cyl.

[@rossthompson4990]

NA straight 6 please!

[@MaddNomad1015]

They need to change what the “R” in RX stands for to Revolutions or Rev. lol. That way they can have a more reliable engine but maybe make the characteristics be a high revving car

[@doczooc]

No exhaust. It is electric.

[@chillaxinn]

I like this, but I wanna see the Mazda6 return!

[@saadgt2009]

I live in Canada, where the weather is (currently) adjudged to be erratic and vile in the winter, and I would buy the hardtop in a New York heartbeat 💓

[@djsangre]

Hi, let me give you my idea: the Iconic Sp will be developed into two, I repeat TWO (2) new models: a smaller MX-5 and a slightly larger RX-7 successor. They did the same with the NC and RX-8 chassis. Both will be electric R-EV with a rotary range extender but the larger one will have two rotors for more power.

[@realtalk5931]

Absolutely love the design. Gorgeous

[@seethingsclearlyawaken3424]

WOW! That car is truly a work of art.

[@dennissanvicente1576]

It doesn't look like it could be a spider. The sweeping tumblehome, C-pillar & fastback glass would be very difficult to make a folding RF hardtop. It's a closed/roadster coupe...revived MX-6?

[@Fyre0]

This precisely. There's no way you can "split" THAT roof and back with the glass and fold them by the trunk. MAYBE you can fold the roof under the fastback glass as with the ND RF, keeping that smooth glass line toward the back? I'd dig that, but not sure from what we've seen so far that's what gonna happen. This looks like a fixed structure so far.

[@tedadamgreen]

I say call the hardtop hatch glass the RX7 and the convertible the MX5 Miata and then let the car community have their uproar. But in the mid-80’s my best friend had a 1st Gen RX7 and the current ND2 Miata RF reminds me a lot of it … so I like the idea of the two different names depending on top configuration. And I do acknowledge that is a provocative statement but if you place the first Gen models with the new ones if they do that then I think everyone would get it even if they wouldn’t agree. Don’t let the near super car last Gen RX7 cloud the expectations for the next … I loved that car but I say go back to the essence of the first Gen

[@andycalifornia426]

Maybe. On the other hand, it would be nice if RX were slightly bigger than Miata (as they have always been). ND is just too much of a toy car. So unless next gen goes to being a little longer (to give more room inside), I'd rather have them offer a slightly bigger RX.

[@tedadamgreen]

@@andycalifornia426 have you ever been in a first Gen RX7? Would like to know how you size it up compared to the ND2 … always looking for other peoples perspectives Thanks

[@yankee2yankee216]

If they can keep it THAT CLEAN looking, design-wise, it will be a big hit!

[@darknessislight3689]

It’s gorgeous 😍 let’s hope it looks exactly like this 😆🙌🏾

[@James-pl2oy]

I could definitely see this becoming a hardtop MX-5 to minimize/amortize production costs. You can almost see that’s what happening given that they are currently transitioning into a coupe with the RF targa. But the only thing that doesn’t fit into this puzzle is why would they stand up the Rotary engineering division back in February? The MX-5 definitely wouldn’t need it and if the SP does become a hardtop MX-5 with a rotary, then that just doesn’t make any sense. Hence, that’s why I’m still thinking this will be a standalone project but just with a lot of platform/parts sharing with the next-gen MX-5. Sort of like what Porsche did with the 986 Boxster and 996 gen 911

[@mrgurulittle7000]

I’d be surprised if this came out as the MX instead of the RX because those headlights, car line, and rear taillights are definitely RX. Man, it’s a gorgeous car though. Mazda is the pinnacle of sensational engineering now.

[@BlakeMcCringleberry]

A 2 door Mazda 3 turbo coupe is what I wanted. I ended up with a BMW M240i, but I would have been all over a 3 coupe, if it were available.

[@Anamnesis]

The NE MX-5 may share some of these styling characteristics, but this new model isn't going to be an MX-5. It's too upmarket and Mazda wants a distinct platform to serve as the basis for advanced tech on a halo model, just as Honda used to debut innovative tech in the Prelude before introducing it into the Accord or Civic. This will be a more expensive grand tourer in the $50-$60K range, more of a genteel luxury alternative to the Toyota Supra, similar to the old Lexus SC300 from the 1990s. I'd wager they would either revive the MX-6 name from the 1990s, or jump straight to MX-7. Doubtful that Honda's upcoming Prelude revival will be in the same league, but it would be really interesting if Honda also got into into this halo niche with a unique grand tourer of their own to compete with Toyota and Mazda.

[@FlexRod]

I’ve never liked red too much on vehicles, but being blunt and pure honest Mazdas are probably the only car I would get in red. Their soul red and their new artisan red look fabulous.

[@markufoto]

In the future as EV driving experiences converge, design will become increasingly important. And Mazda’s design language is so much more sophisticated than most others.

[@genzigzag]

Can't wait see it on the dealer lots!

[@richh650]

The Mazda concept is clearly the most beautiful vehicle I have ever seen! I really hope it makes it to production as the new Mazda RX 7.

[@ryancammarata8109]

They slap their new turbo inline 6, with some minor tweeks, and add in manual transmission / optional 8 speed auto ... what a masterpiece that would be!

[@GoodAfterNoon]

Perfect except needs the 80s Mazda lettering instead of the current logo

[@asuelant]

The car front should look like that and the rear like the rx vision, would be a unbeatable new rx7

[@augustorocha9906]

True, the only thing im not super stunned by is the rear of the sp, it looks a bit flat for me

[@CruiseControl1]

This looks like a coupe and not a convertible, I look forward to what Mazda does with the production model.

[@CT37BN]

Top area of the pop-up headlamps could/would actually be the daytime running lights (DRL) and the main ones will activate once the DRL's pop-up. (Mazda could even *translucent colour match those DRL's with the exterior bodywork). Overall design of this concept reminds me more of the '68 Opel GT than either the MX-5 Miata or RX-7.

[@N20Joe]

Mmm that thing is gorgeous and I would love it as a couple instead of a roadster. Not sure about the phev idea, I suppose they could make it work but I'd have to reserve judgement until we have a prototype and some specs out there.

[@wackit6756]

I find it interesting that a small Company like Mazda, designed in house a straight 6 for the CX90 only. It doesn’t make business sense to put that much development money for only one model. So seems like a straight six from the CX90 would fit right in to this car because of the long hood, and become more upscale Sports car above a Miata. 💁‍♂️

[@kaobo29]

It’s not only for the CX-90. I heard Lexus is going to use the same engine.

[@ii_dynasty]

Long hood is honestly just for looks.

[@johnmohanmusic]

I do not think this is the next Miata. The Miata has always been and will always be a convertible (with the caveat that lately the Miata RF targa style has also been offered). This new coupe looks much more like the last generation RX-7. I think it will be a successor to the RX-7 and based on the grill-less front I think it will be an EV.

[@FastCar5]

As a MX-5 ND owner I would really like to see this as the next generation NE.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

If this is the Miata, it means there will also be a coupe version....like the very very limited edition they did in Japan back in the day, but now standard, and probably paying more for the convertible.

[@davidhunternyc1]

I've got my Nutter Butters and Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! I completely agree with you. The Mazda Iconic SP is one of the most beautiful concept cars I've ever seen. There are rarified cars that are as beautiful as the Iconic SP but they are unicorns, like the Porsche by Singer, Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione, and Gordon Murray T33. Also, the Iconic SP is singular and unique, inspired less by automotive design and more by the purity of a raindrop. My critique about the MX-5 concept, however, is that Mazda in falling back on the happy face motif that was panned on earlier models. Mazda must be severe in their design language. How do you improve a spoon... or a raindrop?

[@Sacto1654]

I think the pop-up headlight feature may be dropped in favor on a larger headlamp housing that is at least compatible with the current FMVSS 108 (February 2022 revision) standard. Mazda does not want to deal with possible mechanical trouble of a pop-up headlight system.

[@plurby1703]

I wouldn't be upset if this came out as a rotary PHEV, but if this came out as an all-motor 6-speed coupe, my GR86 might be getting traded in

[@eugenux]

even if it would be double the cost?, idk, for me, gr86 looks like such a steal for what it offers; yeah, the looks aren't great, even a step back from the 2012 gt86 but still, a brilliant driver's car for the price

[@SkippyPB.]

Those butterfly doors or swan doors are an Aston Martin thing.

[@racingbs9909]

Would’ve loved for it to be a hybrid with a I4 or I6 engine if they’re going the electric route. Rotary powered EV just makes me feel very skeptical but time will tell what the production model will have. Hopefully they give the consumers options

[@carlosavila1155]

A full blown hardtop MX-5 would be great. I've owned a FC RX-7 and a Scion FR-S. Lately, I've been debating whether to get a 2024 Mazda MX-5 Miata Sport or a 2024 Toyota GR86 Base.

[@DM72513]

Drinking coffee and eating waffles.😂

[@chronostasis2085]

yes! agree with you. maybe it's new-gen RX-7(a rotary REEV vehicle). miata should be more acceptable for all-aged group.😄

[@WilliamKim-v3c]

Looks like a micro GT car. Bring it! But give us a convertible version to maintain the MX-5 livelihood.

[@tinboy479]

If Mazda would make a rwd inline6 coupe, I think that'd attract a lot of buyers.

[@Geerod]

It's a beautiful design. I'm not sure which one design is better this or the rx vision. I would love to have both cars together in same picture

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

MX5 News makes me …..,Happy ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@JanMichaelFranklin]

If you look closely at the new patent images against the Iconic SP, they are almost completely different from the A-pillar forward. The dash to axle ratio looks much shorter indicating to me a shorter wheelbase. I think Mazda is using the same platform for the next MX-5 and whatever other sports car they release similar to the NC Miata and RX-8. I think the styling for the 2 new cars will be much closer to each other than the NC and RX-8. Both will probably be derivatives of the SP design. Just my thoughts.

[@enmass90]

I doubt that's a Miata unless they are going to get rid of the RF and release a non retractable hardtop version of it that would better compete w/ the BRZ. But if I had to guess this is going to a different car entirely that competes in the Supra's price range.

[@untetheredmeow7497]

Wouldn’t Miata be a convertible? I believe this is RX-9.

[@avdp9095]

Mazda styling is unique and interiors, exceptional good. The cars are very well engineered but paint and rustprotection below average unfortunatly, at least the older Mazda generations. The Mazda 6 still looks very, very good.

[@redstonegarage]

These images look like the Mazda Vision Study Model from last year.

[@rdiamond655]

It's not a MX-5! Why? Because it's not a convertible. Therefore RX-7(8) successor.

[@mongofairchild3704]

This deserved Home Alone shocky face. Good job kevin.

[@HailCaesar-lm4bq]

When first Miata came out California went wild for them . Dealers marked up accordingly

[@joaopaschoal4553]

The 3d software offers an option to 3d view without perspective deformation, that makes the image feels weird and different, but it's pretty much the same car.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

I think they said that concept was the styling future for Mazda sports cars, so the design language could be taken for both a new Miata, and a new RX...but which one is this? That is the question.

[@thomas735]

Reminds me of a Lotus Elise

[@stephenwierzbicki4463]

Kirk, HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY ☘️🇺🇲

[@pututski6968]

They will NEVER retire the MX-5. They can't. It would kill their brand. Really hoping this is a coupe 2+2 or an RX-7 modernized, and not the MX-5. MX-5 can look and feature a lot of this beautiful car, but it must maintain the soft top (and RF/Hard Top at this point too)

[@DrewIbarra714]

Its basically just the MAZDA VGT from Gran Turismo 7 (unless...)

[@ThePilotGear]

I f*cking love Mazda. Even if it's an auto-only hybrid, I'm confident it'll drive so well...but man I'd love for Mazda to keep a manual in this thing despite heavy electrification...but it's gotta be super light. ...so sexy tho.

[@brucedowsing5982]

Could the differences mean the design registration is for a base model and the SP will be the hero/top spec?

[@torokun]

You are also comparing photos with different focal length. Red one has a lot more perspective to it so the distortion is bigger. B&W is isometric view even in 3/4 view (notice the same wheel size) which means there is no perspective applied. Imagine using extremely long lens.

[@Fyre0]

There's no way you can "split" THAT roof and back with the glass and fold them by the trunk. MAYBE you can fold the roof under the fastback glass as with the ND RF, keeping that smooth glass line toward the back? I'd dig that, but not sure from what we've seen so far that's what gonna happen. This looks like a fixed structure so far.

[@jorgecampos9659]

It’s not hard to believe! Mazda since the 70’s we’re making good looking cars compared to Toyota or Honda.

[@101bennyc]

That’s a good looking car, I hope they put a good NA motor in there.

[@BOBimusRex]

Just like the "new gtr," it's just vaporware until we see one on track.

[@TGW-j6t]

Kirk, back while you were dribbling in you diapers, Vince Burlapp was posting about new cars (bow down to your elders). He has new patent pics by Mazda of the new Miata. It shows a car slightly more compressed than this show car, as if the salient aesthetics were in MX-5 proportions Still quite tasty.

[@richardhung3878]

I doubt that will have a rotary engine in it (even though I hope so). If this is the new Miata, most likely will be I4 + mild hybrid, if this is the new halo sport car, most likely will be the I6.

[@mmmmm5556]

If they made a T top version it would look even more like the coyote x and sales would soar.

[@users4007]

the proportions look the same to me, the image of the 3d model is in orthographic view while the images of the actual concept car is in perspective and as a result they look very different

[@ii_dynasty]

The front is definitely different.

[@Tigerex966]

Please bring back analogue gauges tactile buttons stalks switches and hand brake and pop up lights

[@darren1922]

I think it'll be a revival RX7.

[@brandonperlow9091]

These patent images seem to use Isometric perspective views which have no lens. Lots of architecture and engineering use that. It will show the design a bit weird since you dont have normal perspective from lenses.

[@ii_dynasty]

The two cars aren't identical, so it could very well be different.

[@TheyCallMeMidnight]

Mazda just give us this with the inline six turbo. We need a true competitor to the supra and 400z

[@mmmmm5556]

Why are gulf wing doors more expensive? And how much more? Might be well worth it.

[@boost331]

Why would the headlights have to be up while driving? The law only says there must be running lights. Most companies use a halo or C shape around the edge. What do you think those slits are by the headlights? That is so that running lights will be seen with the pop-ups down.

[@bdoyle965]

I owned a mx5 RF for about a year and really liked it, but would have preferred a coupe with a sunroof. That would have been better in New England weather most of the time and would have less weight, cost and complexity. I really hope they produce a coupe version.

[@CCANGEL333]

The difference being lips, skirts, aero add-ons not necessary for approval. So it's dead on accurate.

[@DriftaholiC]

RX-5. I hope it's powered by that single rotor hybrid.