MAZDASPEED 3 / Channel Update

[@peterxiong]

ive owned my ms3 for a lil over a yr now and your vids were some of the first that ive watched and i still do to this day..i get the whole life happens thing man, keep doin you! looking forward to the upcoming vids!!

[@WannabeTuners]

@peterxiong Thanks brother, glad to help :)

[@sebajun5921]

Yessss dude!! I got a bnrs4 v5 this year and upgraded to a focus st manifold I like the content you put out and because of the valuable information and your awesome build I went and did the big turbo on my ms3 thanks wannabe-tuners keep up the good work 🤙🏽🔥

[@WannabeTuners]

@sebajun5921 That's fantastic dude! Congratulations on the build success :)

[@mituc]

I can't find any info on S4 v5. I know that the last version was using a GTX3071 chra, what is this newer version using? I know it was supposed to be released in Sep/Oct this year but the site was not updated.

[@sebajun5921]

@ supposedly it uses a gt30 turbine wheel I talked to bnr he said he was waiting on parts to put them together and ship them out I’ll be sure to make some videos or content about the turbo when I receive it I’m super excited!

[@mituc]

@@sebajun5921 Well, The S4 previous version was already using a GTX3071 gen2 CHRA...

[@RC33333]

A tuning video would be pretty rad. Awesome content!

[@sergiopalacios3635]

Great to see you back. Get a 2nd Gen Transmission. The gears are shorter, way better for racing. Also Change the shift fork pads to brass pads to increase longevity.

[@WannabeTuners]

@sergiopalacios3635 Thanks man! I'll definitely be doing brass shift fork pads while I'm in there. Are you sure the gears aren't longer in the Gen 2 transmissions? I remember reading that they were.

[@gregorysenge]

@@WannabeTunersyes, they are longer gears.

[@stitesstephen]

Your channel has been invaluable in helping me realize my dream of owning a speed3. Thank you so much! For future mods (clutches and such) I would say just make sure you enjoy the driving experience. I've heard that super aggressive clutches are just not fun. Can't wait for the in depth transmission content. I'm sure I will need to do the same eventually.

[@WannabeTuners]

@stitesstephen I'm glad dude! You're 100% on that. I'll have to get a clutch that delivers both good torque capacity, as well as good daily drivability.

[@rynoPelser-e7p]

Love your content.keep the speed 3 content going.watching your channel for years.love from south africa

[@WannabeTuners]

@@rynoPelser-e7p Thanks for the kind words!

[@KeserichGoaltending]

Can’t thank you enough for the content. I’ve used your videos for pretty much everything I’ve done to my car. If you ditch the 6 port, consider me first in line to buy!

[@WannabeTuners]

@@KeserichGoaltending Haha sounds good! Everything except the fuel pump is an SP63 secondary fuel injection kit

[@31Ramble]

I would love to learn the basics of tuning with your videos. Got an ms3 with the Cobb AP and a lot of basic bolt ons and paying someone to tune is expensive. I saw your tuning videos and surprised you took them down. But then again I didn’t watch much of them cause I didn’t have a AP. I’m excited now though lol

[@WannabeTuners]

@31Ramble Unfortunately last I heard Cobb no longer offers their tuning software (AccessTuner) to the general public anymore :( But I'll definitely be sharing my method for tuning my own car which should still shed some light on the tuning side of things.

[@alexalvarado2972]

Bro Xclutch twin disk is very gooooooooooood!! recommenden 100% i got it and it's amaizing!!

[@WannabeTuners]

@@alexalvarado2972 Thanks for that man! How long have you had it? What did you have before? And how does it compare? I'm still deciding whether or not a twin disc is a good idea for a daily / street car lol

[@lukebriggs5965]

yeeeeeaaaa dude, im currently building my 2008, love to see your build is doing well!!

[@WannabeTuners]

@@lukebriggs5965 Awesome dude, what are your plans for it?

[@lukebriggs5965]

@ Manley h beam and pistons, BNR s6,44mm tial ewg , kelford 247c cams and spring, 8th port injection with a JMF V1, xs power exhaust manifold

[@lukebriggs5965]

I’m going all out

[@WannabeTuners]

@lukebriggs5965 That's fantastic dude! Doing it right the first time ;)

[@anthonygiannone1006]

I have the x clutch twin disk and love it! No issues at all!

[@WannabeTuners]

@@anthonygiannone1006 That's awesome! Do you know if they come with sprung disc's, or just solid disc's?

[@anthonygiannone1006]

@ XKMZ23530-2A Is the part number I got. Its a solid disk

[@kevind_53]

Your videos has always usefull information. The way you are going step by step makes it more relatable to a lot of people. I feel you when you say the candian $ hurt Enjoy the process 🚗💥💨🔥

[@WannabeTuners]

@kevind_53 Thanks brother :)

[@freddieromero1836]

Good to see you and that beautiful speed 3. Can't wait to see how you install the brass fork pads because I can't get ahold of any in Colorado. 1 question what's the highest engine temperature have you hit?

[@WannabeTuners]

@freddieromero1836 Thanks brother, should be fun. In terms of coolant temperature, while driving it hovers around 190F. If stuck in traffic with no airflow across the radiator, it climbs to 219F before the radiator fan kicks on.

[@freddieromero1836]

@WannabeTuners thank you for getting back to me man I appreciate you. I have a 2008 mazdaspeed 3 stage 2 build and fans do kick on but ill see my temps reach 230 sitting in traffic. I'm thinking off hard wiring the fans to control them myself.

[@WannabeTuners]

@@freddieromero1836 Are you running a front mount intercooler?

[@freddieromero1836]

@@WannabeTuners yes a 4 inch mishimoto

[@WannabeTuners]

@freddieromero1836 I wonder if it has something to do with the radiator ducting needing to be removed. I had a similar issue with coolant temps getting high after switching to a FMIC. I ended up making some custom radiator ducting as shown in this video which resolved the issue: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWOse6CnoZh-bLMsi=FkutUkflvjPepjIe

[@gimmethecarkeys]

Most anyone that has experience in this platform will tell you to go act 6puck for budget or a cm750 or cm850. Stay away from the xclutch twin disc stuff. Clutchmasters has been proven over and over again. I personally have a southbend stage 3 endurance. Yes its a stiffer pedal. Holds 30-35psi on my 6062 all day long. I would prob go cm750 or cm850 if i have to buy another clutch in the future, just to get some daily driver pedal feel back. I also switched from a returnless setup to a cs cell this go around. I bought the cell by itself and pieced together fittings and lines along with the pump and filters. Use there instructions to help figure out fittings and lines myself. Running e85 in the cell and my tuner has roughly 16° of timing peak. cant wait for the video on rebuilding the transmission, hope its step by step 👌👌👌

[@WannabeTuners]

@gimmethecarkeys Thanks for that great info! I appreciate that:) I'm liking the way a CM twin disc sounds. Now I wonder how much of a difference there is in driveability between the 750 vs the 850. I'm assuming the 750 will have a lower rotating mass which might make the engine a little more rev happy. I also wonder what the longevity is like on these two if primarily daily driving.

[@gimmethecarkeys]

Thats a question for the big dogs. Will dawson. Bryce. Justin. Sohan?​@WannabeTuners

[@WannabeTuners]

@@gimmethecarkeys I'll have to ask them :) What parts did you go with for the AUX fuel setup?

[@gimmethecarkeys]

@WannabeTuners pretty much just used there cell. They have instructions for there full kit they offer and I sort of copied what fittings they used and made my own, bought my own fuel pump relay kit. It saves around roughly 300ish dollars when you piece it together yourself. In the instructions they give you fitting numbers also. You can use any 340lph pump you want. Aem, quantum is what they use in there kit. Prices can vary. They include a plastic hobb switch in there kit. I bought a 4-6psi Honeywell hobb switch for mine that is npt thread that will go on my intercooler piping since i have the port for it. I currently just have it on when the key is on, I haven't spent the time to wire the hobb yet. There "complete" kit makes it simpler for the user and includes everything obviously. But I just opted to build my own. It is nice not mixing anymore tho. Just put e85 in the cell when it gets low and plain ole pump gas in the tank.

[@WannabeTuners]

@gimmethecarkeys That's awesome! How has the kit been so far? Any issues? I take it the Hobb switch sends power to the aux fuel pump between 4-6 pounds of boost?

[@GRepeated]

My 5th gear is gone and I’d really wish you could make a video about it, like a lot. I’d use that video the whole way 😂

[@WannabeTuners]

@@GRepeated Oh wow, is it the actual gear box or just the clutch slipping?

[@GRepeated]

@ both, the 5th gear no longer goes in at all just grinds and grinds

[@TheEskaloFrio]

i always see this car when I'm in Mexico

[@WannabeTuners]

@TheEskaloFrio Oh you're lucky then because most people can't see it as it's usually going extremely fast

[@zakura70jr]

I know everyone goes with the act 6 puck but I found out about uniclutch based of Australia might wanna take a look at those and they do have a kit for our cars. Also I'm still having an issue where my boost target is at 27 psi, and set the wastegate correction error so it compensates for under and over boost but it does nothing

[@WannabeTuners]

@zakura70jr Oh interesting I'll look i to that company and see what they offer. Sorry are you running AccessTuner or Versatune?

[@zakura70jr]

@WannabeTuners access tuner i really don't know what is going on i have it set for boost based tuning and set the targets and error compensation but it will always over boost when it gets colder

[@WannabeTuners]

@zakura70jr So you only have an issue with overboosting? Not underboosting?

[@zakura70jr]

@WannabeTuners when it gets cold it will overboost and when the summer is here it will underboost i can't get the access tuner to maintain the 27psi target I'll keep trying and see what I'm missing

[@WannabeTuners]

@zakura70jr Sorry but are we already communicating on Instagram? If not send me a message there and I can help you out :)

[@mituc]

For the mods you have a factory clutch (+fidanza FW) is well undersized. I have this combo on my CX7 (gen2 2867 + built engine) is it's pretty buzzy as well. On my 3 I have the Southbend Stage3 enduro which is a great clutch, even more predictable than stock, lasts quite long, but it gives you a stiff pedal (this being the only downside really). The ACT 6puck is good but it will wear out quickly. You say now that you have 50k kms on your Fidanza+LUK combo, well, in this case a ACT 6puck will probably start going out at around 35-40k. I'd honestly look at the steel flywheels the guys from Damond Motorsports got custom made for the Action clutches. I would not go twin disk, but now if it was to pick another clutch I'd probably go for maybe a stage2 or 3 from Action Clutch.

[@WannabeTuners]

@mituc That's awesome man, thanks for all the good info. I've never heard of Action clutches, I'll have to look into them. Why wouldn't you recommend a twin disc?

[@mituc]

@@WannabeTuners I do not recommend a twin disc on a mainly street driven car because I'm not convinced it worth the hassle of dealing with a twin-disc if a single disc can hold the amount of torque you aim for. My SB stage3 enduro is rated for 500lbft/675Nm, I shattered a gearbox at about 800Nm/600-ish lb*ft and I'm still using that clutch after almost 70k kms and 8 years. Now I'm running a bit less than 800Nm (like 750-760) and I can still hear the gearbox screaming for its life, but the clutch is absolutely fine.

[@WannabeTuners]

@mituc Wow that sounds like the clutch may be advertised to handle less than it actually can. Thanks for that real world information. Maybe I can just go with an SB stage 3 Enduro then 🤔 How did the gearbox shatter?

[@mituc]

@@WannabeTuners Last WOT log before going home (5th gear), and it shattered 4th and 5th gears. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6LbaJSwmJaZl5o Even the factory clutch can handle 520-540Nm/380-390lb*ft for a while on a factory fw (I'm actually pushing about 600+Nm/450lb*ft on an OEM clutch with a fidanza FW on my CX7) so it's no surprise that these significantly stronger clutches will handle more as long as you don't clip them excessively.

[@WannabeTuners]

@mituc Oh wow! What rpm did it let go at? Was the turbo fully spooled up? You really opened my eyes though when it comes to clutches. I really don't need something too crazy because the car is a street car. It just needs to hold good safe torque and last a long time.

[@jasonc2948]

You mentioned that you have 50,000kms on your clutch. Do you have the same amount of KMs on your new forged engine? Just curious as I have a similar build with 24,000 on it currently (Manley pistons, rods etc). Cheers

[@WannabeTuners]

@jasonc2948 No the built engine has only 15,000 km's on it. I've read that so long as you let the engine warm up, it reduces cylinder wear from piston slap.

[@EGZMUH]

6puck Paired With Prolite Flywheel

[@WannabeTuners]

@@EGZMUH Is that what you run?

[@criticaldreams1]

First

[@waresgarage8590]

I always like watching your videos brotha, I just got an gen 1 so now I have gen 1 and 2 I got a build block for the gen 1 check it out brotha and keep up the good work brotha

[@WannabeTuners]

@waresgarage8590 Awesome brother, having both is better than just having one lol. I'll definitely check it out on your channel :)

[@jared58974]

Do yourself the favor and get a full face. Never get a 3,4,6 puck clutch for daily driving, not worth it

[@WannabeTuners]

@@jared58974 Thanks for the advice! What's your experience between the two? And what's your opinion on full faced twin disc clutches?

[@jared58974]

@ twin disc is basically the same as the single just heavy pedal. if you arent pushing a crazy amount of torque just go with a single full face that can take the tq, they are a bit more but its usually worth it for the drivability and longevity . got a 6 puck, lasted 7 months, horrible for basic traffic. Engagement is way to aggressive. if you arent going to use the puck clutch for what its intended for, no need for it

[@WannabeTuners]

@jared58974 Ok sounds good. Do you mean a bit more in price for the single disc, or a bit more in pedal pressure? I like where this is going, thanks a lot for the real world experience.

[@jared58974]

@ a bit more $$$ on a higher quality single disc. Pedal pressure is a lot heavier on a twin disc, compared to a single and 6 puck. depends on the quality pressure plate

[@WannabeTuners]

@jared58974 Ok awesome, which single disc clutch do you recommend for 500+hp?

[@franklinenciso5471]

Hit up cwturbochargers for a new clutch!

[@WannabeTuners]

@franklinenciso5471 Thanks sounds good! I'll check them out

[@brotherhood_ofstreetracers4268]

@@WannabeTunersdon’t buy from the douche bag lol