MbL vs Ganji (Hidden Cup 5 Qualifier)

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[@EokaBeamer69]

Other players are like super solid boxers with a good and stable stance, hard and heavy punches where MBL is this wierd kung fu master with bushy eyebrows and a long beard who just sweeps your feet out from underneath you, throws you off balance and then hits you with a flurry of punches and kicks that you never even saw coming. God I love watching this dude so much. He is an artist.

[@vacciniumaugustifolium1420]

By far my favorite player to watch in 1v1, its never boring!

[@swankyj501]

He’s like the drunken boxer, unpredictable, unreadable

[@markdowse3572]

Well said! 👍

[@pictureframe1]

every MBL game is a highlight reel

[@hassam363]

Spoiler block

[@Nabium]

if you don't want spoilers, then don't read comments on a video you haven't seen yet. should be the most obvious thing in the world.

[@Gatitasecsii]

@@Nabium How about just being polite and not writing about the video's results at the top of the comment? Sometimes you just wanna see people's reactions to the video or sometimes you just wanna scroll down to give the video a like and someone comments "congrats to MbL!!" and you can't help but see it. Like this. It's really not that hard. Can't we expect some politeness ffs? I hate this complacency

[@Nabium]

@@Gatitasecsii Ah, so you suggest if you wanna write congrats to MbL then you should write it at the bottom of the comments, and not the top? And I agree, saying congratulations to MbL is really not polite. Those people must be really rude. Jokes aside though, I see your point enough to not write those kind of comments myself. And, it's out of politeness, so it's not like I don't get that point at all. BUT!!! And this is a big butt. BUT I still find it just incredibly stupid to cry about this. I don't go into the comments for something I don't want to be spoiled because I know, it's going to get spoiled. It's just such a simple little thing to do. These people aren't trying to be rude, they're not trying to spoil it for everyone, they just watched the video and then feel incredibly happy and wants to write a little congratulation. Sure, I don't do it, and sure, you don't do it. But 'oIt's not the end of the world that some people do, because, they're only spoiling the results to dimwits dumb enough to read the comments of a tournament video they didn't even see yet.

[@Moriamemes]

​@@Nabium The comment section shows the top comment even if you dont click the comments

[@sockmon1]

​@@Nabium yeah why can't everyone practice perfect self restraint and defiance of habit like meee I'm so perfect. That's what you sound like. OP doing God's work, give respect not hate.

[@andrewomalley2688]

Mbl - Forward house to keep from becoming housed strat: CONFRIMED! T90 - I can't believe MBL wasn't invited to the tourney. I mean these MBL qualifiers are awesome, but without this threat of chaos, the main event would be seriously lacking. I think his gameplay in these qualifiers may be a big revenge for not being invited.

[@gigaslave]

MBL's power of tilting matchups into strange strategic positions is a delight to watch.

[@jackellis860]

Someone relay my appreciation to Dave for the battle of Helm's Deep reference

[@Bobby.B619]

It was so off the cuff too 11 , that's why he's my fav caster

[@EokaBeamer69]

When Tristan says "there were nerves for MBL" I always hear "nerfs" as in someone tied one of his hands behind his back or unbound all of his hotkeys so other people have a chance xD.

[@gigaslave]

Or they made him play with his feet on the keyboard instead of his hands, lol

[@jamesconlon1925]

My favourite casting duo!

[@brainletgaming8093]

I actually started skipping forward on that islands game because I thought it was so clearly over, my respect for MBL has grown exponentianlly; what incredible games

[@Gatitasecsii]

I didn't skip but I get the feeling. I can't believe how he turned it around like that... just incredible stuff

[@moz7491]

Love the shout-out at 1:07:29 by Dave & T90...to the Wizard 'DiviumFuror' 😄

[@Progeusz]

Ahhhhh I love MbL's play so much. Awesome to see him fully embracing his unique style. He was born in chaos and has full control over it.

[@domhuckle]

MB-HELL!

[@cinco_de_la_tarde]

I'm new to AoE2 content after loving the game growing up. MBL is easily my favorite player. Just immensely interesting games. Amazing sweep here. You could just see him wear Ganji down and defeat him mentally with each crazy push

[@chrom_mage]

Is it only me or does t90 sound like he is saying longboats every time he says longbows

[@evilvitamin]

1:22:00 At THIS STAGE and MBL is laming his heart out. He wants in to Hidden Cup and won’t take no for an answer.

[@theactualtrokz]

MBL the goat of off meta AoE2, followed in no specific order Yo, Vinchester and Duat, all by far the most entertaining to watch

[@tomtenthij5676]

I love your humbleness T90!

[@matthewwaines4748]

He’s back!!!

[@Frrk]

GG! Entertaining games.

[@NightKnight347]

I am so happy for MBL! Been my favorite pro for a long time

[@danidavis4811]

These games are incredible! That's what hidden cup is all about!!

[@GrumpyOldBoy]

What even is MBL LOL my favorite player hands down

[@volbla]

1:17:51 I can't find a game with St4rk vs dogao. Did Dave misspeak or is he talking about a different tourney?

[@Bump33]

Let's go!

[@exinexi]

8:20 nice!

[@Omni0404]

Is that a bowl of grits in the thumbnail because he has grit? 😅

[@iamUglie]

It's ganji the food, but your grits interpretation is pretty good!

[@LimitBreakr424]

Lets gooo

[@skipper472]

Why does the thumbnail have a pot of porridge? Ganji means porridge in dravidian language 😂

[@reidstadlwieser3960]

wait is the patch they are using for hidden cup going to be public at some point? and if not why?

[@williamschubert4819]

I assume there are some issues that only appear at large scale

[@chiralvandal]

Excellent thumbnail!

[@ondrejjaluvka6766]

When will the S tier tournament feature exploding villagers?

[@undertyped1]

Archers are so strong, that even with the regrouping issue, people still go them frequently. Shouldn't this say something about how overpowered they are?

[@flugaflaug1647]

Embee

[@khangbob]

Guys, do yourself a favor, watch the whole set before reading comments.

[@DudeStone]

Let's Go YO!!!!

[@ivanredinger969]

It would be amazing for EmBe to win the whole thing.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Mass elite longboats might be able to stand up to Thirisadai in post-Imp, if both are massed, but Thirisadai have the major bonus of not needing any unit upgrades. This avoids ever having to ever get the Galleon upgrade, as Thirisadai are just better, being able to win with equal resources. The Galleon upgrade is pretty expensive and annoyingly slow, so this is a major win. That means you get much more tempo with Thirisadai, which also help get value with Lanchester's laws, Elite longboat is a pretty expensive and slow upgrade too. Longboats, like galleons, also get countered by mass demolition ships (or even fire ships if they are not massed) suddenly ungarrisoning as they need to stick together to do anything. And they can be countered by Cannon Galleons and the occasional bombard cannon attacking for area of effect damage. Overall, the Vikings are pretty bad in the late game on water for a water 🌊 civ. Ganji just seems to be inexperienced on tournament water maps.

[@Progeusz]

You don't have resources in early imp to spam Thirisidai and you will just die before you can get good number of them if you don't play Galleon first. THirisidai are opposite of getting tempo, you're giving away the initiative to your opponent if you go Thirisidai first. You're absolutely destroyed by Lanchester's law. Longboats and Galleons don't get countered by demos, THEY counter demos. It doesn't matter if they clump up because they have ~10 range to work with. Likewise Cannon Galleons or Bombard Cannons aren't counters either. They only work as a supplementary unit if there's a big army in front of them. They get quickly sniped by Galleons/Longboats the moment gap can be closed in. Overall you have no idea about how this game works. It's mindboggling how you managed to be dead wrong in every single sentence you typed.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

​@@Progeusz Thirisidai are worth more than 2 Galleons despite costing the same. Their lack of needing the Galleon upgrade and faster conversion of resources to units means they are really good for tempo. The Galleon upgrade costs 5.96 times as much as a Galleon. That means by making Thirisidai you are easily up 6 Galleons worth of stuff than an opponent making Galleons, before accounting for the time of the upgrade and 3 Thirisidai being better than 6 Galleons. Elite Cannon Galleons can easily be protected by Galleons/unique unit substitutes, Fast Fire Ships in the early Imperial Age or Castles 🏰🏯. They have a higher damage output versus 1 ship than than Galleon (6/unit reload time over 5/unit reload time), before taking into account their area of effect damage. The range of Longboats and Galleons does nothing when the mass of demolition ships ungarrison close to them. Demolition ships move faster than Longboats and Galleons, so they cannot be kited before the mass connects, without using their full range as a buffer. It is also virtually impossible for the opponent to react in time. And the ships cannot attack on their reload time if they just attacked something else. Longboats and demolition ships cost the exact same total resources when factoring in the Vikings civ bonus in Imperial. Demolition ships actually cost less than Viking Elite Longboats with Shipwright. This means Demolition ships connecting has incredible value. They only need to hit 2 units to be worth it and can easily hit much, much more.

[@Ymgarl]

Longboats should be able to carry berserks. Am I tripping or could they carry units in AoK?

[@NightKnight347]

@@sa-mp5iw Exactly. Only an idea in the mind of the devs

[@Naglerfritz]

In AoM the viking ships could carry Units. Maybe there the confusion comes from

[@NightKnight347]

​@@Naglerfritz Never played it, but that's a good point

[@CrimsonRedstone]

I liked it when MBL MBL'd all over him

[@adityabhise466]

Is this game happened already?

[@aaronh678]

Yeah that is why it was casted and posted here as a VOD.

[@adityabhise466]

@@aaronh678 it's like expression bro. I wanted to watch. Thanks u sassy piece of ass. God damn ur cute as hell boy!!!

[@mrlucasftw42]

Boar'd to death

[@o0o00000ooo0o]

Ganji

[@markdowse3572]

Got to give the guy credit for being SO DAMN GOOD at what he does! 👍 Players should expect it, yet they always seem to be taken by surprise... That's a brilliantly creative and strategic mind at work. Well played, MbL! 💪 M 🦘🏏😎