What Happens When We Forget Upgrades | 1350 Elo Coaching

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[@Spearced]

"Sorry, I mean the second boar. The second deer is dead." Hera taking no prisoners out here.

[@deanr6327]

Love this content. Would love to see more rec reviews on this channel

[@jamesfearn4977]

Aussie fan here! 100% agree, I keep updated via your youtube channel or I wouldnt get any sleep 😂 keep bringing the great content through youtube

[@vinconssier4224]

Thank you for this tip: before thinking of massing a secondary unit, make sure to upgrade your current main unit (get bracer, chemistry, ballistics) Sincerely, a 900 Elo new player

[@Nysyarc]

One thing I noticed, is that each time he built a castle his villagers just kind of stood around waiting for commands afterwards. Doesn't seem like much but if you have 15-20 vils rushing down a castle, or even 10 vils, and then you don't notice that it's finished right away or have to micro somewhere else and they stand there for 30 in-game seconds, that villager idle time adds up. I think it's worth taking a couple seconds right after placing the castle foundation to shift-task the villagers back to what they were doing before you went to build it, that way you lose no time later and your eco balance doesn't get messed up by wondering where they all came from. Or if the castle is more forward you can shift-task them to build a mining camp/lumber camp somewhere nearby. Obviously sometimes you may want to garrison the vils immediately when the castle goes up, depending on the situation, but you can still do that even if you've got them shift-queued and then just use the "back to work" hotkey from the castle when the danger has passed. Not a huge note, but like Hera said about the lumber camp placement, I think it's a relatively easy fix.

[@danielj5118]

Calling gg with 3k wood and gold is the main problem i guess. If you lose with that much resources you should fix your military output either cuz your military buildings were idle or you had not enough of them.

[@vinconssier4224]

That’s me af, too busy with army micro to spend my resources then I get folded

[@stratbomb]

Wow, the best coach in the community right here!

[@SirQuantization]

Free coaching sessions, love it. Man’s a fellow Australian, too!

[@samuelwest6817]

Hera this is elite, more of these would be helpful, can i smell viewer submitted games? :O

[@Mattroid99]

I wish to see more content like this! Definitely a solid player but it felt to me like he didn't commit to his plan. I am at like 1500 but I feel like at 1300 is really not about strategy or tight builds but rather your macro will win you the games more often than not (Especially the feudal one very much fumbled, perhaps he just randomed Malay since they are quite a tricky civ to play) Definitely should have fully commited to a good Arbalest mass too; he never had more than 20

[@pondoz]

malay is easy at 900 elo just 29 vils -> fast castle -> all in elephants. worked for me 15 games in a row xd

[@Mattroid99]

@@pondoz Well this is 1300 elo so is very different hahah People aren't going to be passive and chill with army; so Malay having less res to play with at every new Age can throw you off if you aren't used to them

[@Prawn47]

As a similar level player from Australia, I can relate to a lot of these errors. I think the player was concerned about player arb + halb because he knew that the opponent was already on elite skirm which effectively counters both units. It's hard to know exactly how bad Frank skirms are.

[@voidgods]

Yeah that's the thing, Franks Skirms hardly "counter" anything. He could have committed to arb halb easily

[@bayern1806]

Hello Hera, maybe you can play a game vs Tatoh or Viper and you play completely without any upgrades, it would be cool to see how much difference it makes on a professional level. Its not possible to win a game, right? Or for example, just don't do economy upgrades and it would be cool to see the difference in economy (vills) while the game is giong.

[@LimitBreakr424]

Really good suggestion! I think these kind of demonstrations would be very useful.

[@daarom3472]

no eco upgrades has been done a lot by pro's like Nicov.

[@taron6858]

Aussie here just recently got into aoe2 found out about you from watching t90 :P working on competing my 10 placement games to get my elo

[@nikjojo]

why don't aoe2 spectators always keeps fog of war on (or shared fog of war), like in League? because the fully visible map looks odd

[@dylanfalk3243]

Woah so weird opponent doing multiple forward castles at 1200-1400? And lost both of them? I never would’ve guessed they would do that.

[@Fitzibutzi]

Just realized there is no ranking of the different techs from hera. @Hera

[@ryan__nz]

If you think Australia is bad.. try being a Hera fan in New Zealand!

[@nicejob1589]

Also wouldve made a difference If he sniped the trebs. His opponent really kept them alive very well.

[@thenosa87]

You sound like survivalist today

[@roblapouple7552]

Its insane to see people NOT using resources ... at start of imper age having 2k wood 2k gold and not pop cap ... u going for arbs with 2-3 ranges with that much wood drop more ranges and pump out faster ... I never have any resources at all if im not pop cap ..

[@grandengineernathan]

so maybe I have too high standards, but I am around 1300 and when I have 1min tc idle time in feudal I think it is way to high, especially when not taking too much pressure. That is after all almost equivalent to losing three vils

[@tomascayul5728]

i'm 1600 and i sometimes get more than 1 minute of idle tc in feudal when i'm microing too much, even tho is not good, it's not that critical and game deciding, but it's definitley something i should work on

[@danielb7495]

Maybe some idle time but at least your didn’t spent ress on a dead vill….

[@grandengineernathan]

@@danielb7495 a vil pays itself in under 3 minutes. And a dead vil is a vil that the opponent had to invest in to kill. Not creating a vil means that it never collected anything and that it didn't even damage the enemy, so it is also possible that a vil who never existed is worse than a dead vil

[@markusdegenhardt8678]

The entire gameplay was good except for the macro. The macro was tbh horrible. If you train your macro your elo will jump significantly. You should have had 20k more res with all your eco upgrades. That was what lost you the game.

[@vinconssier4224]

That would be my main mistake as well then LOL

[@roblapouple7552]

whats he going to do with 20k more resources .. he isnt even using his resources he has ...

[@nelsonmejiaslozada9362]

IM IN THE minute 19 and i feel he will lose this, i hate this throws of won games, i can feel his pain.

[@honkai8692]

oh that franks player's name xd kinda ramdon if i might say, but if i record correctly aoe2 name is just your steam name right? so nothing big deal there

[@kelamii5977]

What does it mean?

[@honkai8692]

very ramdon, if you google it it means "developinig country" yes, it's the political term that describe the current states of a country @@kelamii5977

[@honkai8692]

im pretty sure i did replied to you last night but yt deleted it or something, anyway the name means "developing country" very ramdon name, the very same political term that describes the economy states of a nation@@kelamii5977

[@TheRealBruceLouis]

@@kelamii5977 something about chinese development family/person

[@kelamii5977]

@@TheRealBruceLouis Interesting