MBPP EP. 722 - How To Transition Into Barefoot Shoes

[@aleccostello2271]

24 years old here and have been wearing Vivobarefoot for around 3 years now. The first month walking and running, I could definitely feel muscles in my legs, feet, and thighs that were never quite worked before in "normal shoes". After pushing through and easing into the Vivo's, wearing Vans or anything else extremely hurt my feet after a hour or so of being squished up! My agility, sprint speed, distance running, and the way my toes hit the ground have all completely changed! Vivo's let me feel more free to the feel of the ground either on the trails or everyday movements, and I definitely want to glide or sprint from point A-B everywhere I go lol

[@drewswomley7787]

can you elaborate on how they've improved your distance running?

[@aleccostello2271]

@@drewswomley7787 Sure, I'll do my best! The Vivo's zero drop, wide toe box, and minimalist structure makes it easier to bounce off of your big-foot and tiptoes because you can actually feel the ground beneath your feet. Running becomes less strenuous, and more so of a glide through each bounce off of my toes. It's much easier to stride and glide off your toe bounces than repeatedly landing flat-footed with no feeling of the ground underneath you with "normal" shoes. You can feel how your feet want to respond. It's hard to explain if you haven't felt minimalist foot wear before. I did 10.09mil in 01hrs and 34sec in my Vivo's this past weekend. I never got tired or strained once during or the day after my run. They've improved my feet, leg, and thigh strength over the past 3 years immensely!

[@mrceresa1]

@@aleccostello2271 how much has vivo paid you?

[@aleccostello2271]

@@mrceresa1 LOL a big fat $0, I've sure given some cash to them in the past though. I'm just happy to see minimalist shoes finally catching on!

[@migueltrujillo341]

Which ones do u wear? I have the primus lite 3

[@stephenpierre6643]

25:00 I used to work at a gas station when I was younger. All of the taxi drivers had their right foot externally rotated while they were walking. I think it is because they were driving so much that their right foot had become stuck in that position. ( When you drive the right foot is externally rotated towards the gas pedal ). Now I can tell by the way a person walks if they drive for a living.

[@ianonbass]

To Ensimas first point. Ive just come from a soccer pick up game but have been training in barefoot shoes for 2 years to rehab a meniscus tear on both knees and slight tearing of the acl from a bad foul. Those Nikes hurt too much o the toes now that I sprint much harder. Id love to play again but its not possible to get barefoot style cleats.

[@anthonyhaga7559]

I just got my first pair of vivo shoes, and I love them so far. I only wish they made steal toe versions for us who work in factories. Cheers!

[@ben6595]

Dude, was legit thinking this today. I'm looking at getting some but not sure it's worth it given I'm in work boots 10 hours of the day.

[@JohnWaxed]

I was lucky enough to snag some of the Birkenstock barefoot steel toes. They are worth every penny. I wish there were more options as well

[@ianonbass]

Tried those Birkenstocks. Not wide enough on your current size, it squeezes the pinky toe ever so slightly that its annoying to wear. Buy one size bigger maybe it helps.

[@believeinjesus8300]

@@JohnWaxed where did you purchase them and did you have any issues with buying them. I need some of thoes boots

[@JohnWaxed]

@@believeinjesus8300 it was a pain sourcing them, and then when I did the sizing was off and return shipping to Germany would have been $300. After a resell on eBay and finding another source, I’d say it was all worth it. I have a 27cm foot and had to go up a size from what my actual length was.

[@dw5523]

Fantastic show. 40 years old and just started dealing with all the issues you guys discusses - foot & ankle strength, balance, coordination, being light on my feet. Such a helpful conversation. David Weck up next.

[@tonygicz8]

I really like the fact that you guys stand up on your podcast. I have a habit of standing up as well if I sit too long it doesn't feel right, my body doesn't like it so the majority of the day im standing up.

[@aaronhigdon952]

Since you started talking about barefoot shoes and getting put of your shoes u have been walking my dogs everyday barefoot. I love the feeling and have just ordered a pair of barefoot shoes

[@rktyler3470]

I jumped into barefoot running and minimal shoes about a decade ago when vibrams first hit the scene. You gotta build up to it. First thing I noticed after running in barefoot shoes is intense DOMS in calves because you are using them to stay on the ball of foot. I got up to five mile runs with them. You can still overdo it on tar or concrete. Best case scenario is running on dirt or earth totally barefoot and alternating shoes while on tar to build up the strength.

[@MRBarton369]

Got my newest pair of barefoot shoes thanks to this show. I’m ready to get back on the trail. Primus AW FG 2. Thank you fellas

[@Voidrunner01]

Been in minimalist shoes since about 2009. What it does for your gait quality cannot be overstated, but people don't understand how much of a difference it actually makes until they've actually tried it for a while. I could not go back to "normal" shoes at this point.

[@yovino4862]

I spent 1yr walking barefoot and sandals at home before hiking around. 2yr hiking then 3yr began to do more field sports and the difference is amazing

[@georgea6438]

Thanks for answering my Disney question! I just bought some vivos thanks to you guys and will use them sparingly before attacking Disney with them.

[@tevitatuipulotu8287]

About to get these Vivos. Look forward to seeing my progression in them. Keep up the great content - love from QlD Australia.

[@herrmusling]

I love my altras! Rocking the superior 5 for terrain and escalante 2,5 for everyday usage. Love em

[@teatowel11]

I've got escalante racers like they showed which are awesome for running on pavement. I cant run in my vivos for more than 3 miles or so on pavement yet.

[@jacklingenfelter7765]

this is a staple podcast of mine, the power project is my fav

[@ZacRN1988]

I contributed to selling out vivo shoes! Thanks for the great information and supplying us with a discount. Loving the content 👊

[@TheEnvelopeOZ]

Fascinating conversation!!

[@7heAteles]

Crazy that this is just getting main stream when ive had 5fingers and vivobarefoots for over a decade. Great to see you two talking about the benefits

[@Russellbuddy]

Great podcast as always. Thanks for the love!

[@leviking9625]

For a several years myself I've been wear minimal drop shoes or boots as much as possible for working or walking around in. Usually converse or van for just daily walking to allow my feet and toes to move freely. I've always been curios about using a sandbox every day and just stepping in place for say 5-10 minutes to see the difference in my over feet long term

[@oliver1367]

I'm wearing Vibram FiveFingers at the moment!

[@ScottGlisson74]

I have Altra's, vivos, and xero shoes. love them all for different reasons.

[@gregaustin8114]

I’m in process of transitioning to vivobarefoot shoes from Hoka. I’m taking it slow, but wanna just jump in because they feel so good. I just hope my feet don’t get meatier or bigger like you’re talking about. I’m already a size 15!

[@AdamTheBeard]

Use vivo's full time now. The calfs and feet look crazy bigger n wider. Start finding new lines of muscle here and there every week. Cheers for the advice 👏

[@thisdumb6710]

Bought $20 bodyglove water shoes working great

[@Gengh13]

When I first transitioned to barefoot shoes I had to stretch my calves, I guess decades of always using footwear with a slightly raised heels shortened my tendons.

[@Mr.F1XIT]

Y’all are my hype song when I’m working out! 🤣

[@rickzalewski2728]

I see the benefits of minimalist wide toe box shoes, but what about running on concrete or tarmac surface?. Is the hard surface to stressful of the body?

[@aleccostello2271]

From my 3 years of wearing Vivo's, you definitely need to adjust for a month or two before going hard in them. After that, it's smooth gliding from there!

[@justinthorne8979]

you can also get wide toebox shoes, with zero drop (flat), but with a decent cushion. look at the brand Alltra

[@MarkBellsPowerProject]

What they said

[@jhoelscher93]

@@justinthorne8979 i can’t get alltra in canada. is there another brand you could recommend?

[@varcity23]

Try walking first for like 5-10 min in barefoot shoes, vibram five fingers or Vivobarefoot. And see how it feels. If there is no pain try walking longer. And increase from there.

[@DiscipleSteven]

Thanks guys! I really enjoyed this discussion. I always thought that I had great feet but then when I heard about barefoot shoes and things people can do with their toes I was like woah. haha I don't do a lot of running or play sports but I have started to walk more barefoot at home and exercise barefoot. I'm hoping to get some barefoot shoes very soon and focus on some stretching and exercises now for my toes. By just making a few changes I've noticed a huge difference already.

[@kyleinwisc]

Love that this stuff is getting some attention. For the disneyland question guy, all day on concrete would do better with some padding. All day on carpet, the grass or in the woods is okay with barefoot. Concretes a different thing, it beats on your feet

[@cthide]

All day on concrete in minimal shoes is doable…. Just not at first.

[@diamonddog2817]

There are a few individual companies that focus on producing feet shaped soccer boots. Super cool innovation. Im an elite level player and im stoked to get running in them. The only downside is the cost, nearly as much as a flagship phone. I suppose if it’s a toss and turn between a phone (time wasting trap) and barefoot shoes (super strong feet). I think the easy option is the barefoot boot :)

[@Johnwick-07]

Check out foot training with Coach Chong Xie. His method of training is called hyperarch fascia training. He has trained MMA fighters.

[@DanielDeMontreal]

Thanks for the recommendation. Will check him out.

[@DanBarbatti]

Love Tom Platz .. bring him on !!1

[@Bryansahupala]

Steve Maxwell got a ton of information and excercises on isometrics. Nice have to have him on the podcast.

[@hughdavies5209]

Yeah good shout. Haven't seen him on many podcasts lately

[@mcampos17]

Is there vivo barefoot work boots ?

[@teatowel11]

My injinji socks got holes in the big toe on the first wear. Very disappointing

[@vtcanada2000]

Xero shoes changed my life!

[@mrceresa1]

I just looked up Xero because I can’t find any vivos in black. Those Xero’s are ugly asl! They hold up well?

[@vtcanada2000]

@@mrceresa1they look nice in person. they feel amazing and I've been wearing my HFS for more than a year. Only thing I did was replace the laces. The two souls are in good condition. They have a 5000 mile warranty.

[@mrceresa1]

@@vtcanada2000 thanks mate I’m going to cop a pair

[@SerratusAnterior]

that Isometric Nsima was talking about, sounds something like what Maxalding did

[@TheJustwM]

Where can I find video of them talking how to walk barefoot ? Head over feet, rolling heel out in, etc… ?

[@brianhyatt3930]

My feet busted out of the sides on the primus. I’ve been using the Xero Prio and it’s made for wider feet.

[@TheMakki]

I have a pair of Speedo water shoes. Basically the same thing and they cost $20. Probably a good place to start before making such an investmen in these other shoes.

[@jamesbrewer5111]

Would love some vivos but size 14s have NEVER been in stock when I’ve checked, I just said F it with them and Birks lol

[@bigdaddygucciabg836]

My ankle, shin, feet been hurting for years. I always wore socks and slides and shoes every waking moment. I been trying to not wear socks or shoes while home and my ankle and shin don’t hurt when I walk or run anymore 🤔

[@TreyCarterJJ]

I have had turf toe in both feet for a long time. Really hoping these shoes help. Have never focused on my feet as an athlete. (I’m a full time Jiu jitsu athlete)

[@GentleWarrior371]

How can you tell what size vivo you are?

[@ianonbass]

Really need some safety shoes and soccer shoes in barefoot style.

[@jacobpeterson1165]

Yoga toes, or toes spreaders are great for walking around the house, or doing yoga, helping to splay out your toes

[@teatowel11]

I've got the vivo primus trail and honestly they are a bit stiff. I wish i went for tge primus light shoes since i run on pavement a lot.

[@landonp.4073]

Bad idea to run on pavement with vivos anyway. Get some Altras for running on hard surfaces.

[@annifanni23]

What about toe spreaders like correct toes? I have a bunion on my left foot only and it kills me

[@keansy123]

Would deadlift slippers be considered barefoot?

[@kylemckinney_22]

Switch to zero drop shoes before barefoot

[@guillem5986]

I use feiyue for the gym, but I combine it with orthodics (in other shoes of course) since I have claw toes... How would you guys approach minimalist shoes if you had this issue, any recommendations?

[@yangtroy1]

Ive been using the vwell socks for a good min their str8 dont get the injinji they are too pricey, also had the primus lite 3 for a while their str8 too, just got the all weather trail 3 havent worn em yet

[@EWOKakaDOOM]

How are barefoot shoes supposed to fit? I have a decent amount of toe room in my vivo shoes

[@MarkBellsPowerProject]

Sounds about right. I had to go a full size down in Vivos compared to normal shoes. -Andrew

[@georgea6438]

Just purchased some vivos today, thank you guys. Any suggestions on running shoes that are similar to vivos? Wide toe box/barefoot style?

[@teatowel11]

Merrel trail glove is a good really minimalist shoe. The white and red show he showed is an escalante racer from Altra. They are super light and have a wide toe box and zero drop from the heel to toe. They still have some cushion though which make it more comfortable on the road but maybe let you get away with a heavy foot strike

[@papacos4745]

Look up Lem's barefoot shoes. I have had the Lems primal for over a year now and will never go back to normal shoes. My calf's we're real stiff for the first week but went away and the second week. You do have to train yourself on how to run in barefoot shoes. Normal shoes people run with heel hitting the ground first but with barefoot shoes you should train to hit with the ball of your foot. It does feel weird at first but less impact on hip and knees

[@Gengh13]

Xero shoes is another barefoot brand.

[@gabegrinstead356]

I'm 15 and have all sorts of issuses with si joint pain shoulder pain from rotaor cuffs and back my knees, elbows, wrists, ankles and neck hurt almost every single joint and it is so triggering going to doctor and recommending orthotics which have done nothing then fuck my feet up even more and what I think is the cause of my inner knee pain right where minicus is (not minicus). Also a common argument is even pro runners wear orthotics like thats basicaly a disadvantage and could they could probably be even better I expiermented with them before and now fully switching to some kind of barefoot shoe.

[@mrceresa1]

I need an all black pair man wtf where Dey at tho?

[@mattthadd4663]

I suck at flexing me left calf. It’s embarrassing

[@Quickkill6658]

Maybe a business opportunity if nobody else is doing this already but 1) foot shaped cleats. Every cleat I’ve seen is very narrow toed. 2) foot shaped safety shoes.

[@harliedalzell6773]

U ain’t alone it’s probably a lack of market

[@gc22696]

And foot shaped cycling/mtb shoes !

[@kyleinwisc]

New balance makes a wide foot cleat. only company that i could find

[@Catalonia]

Ok so one question about the barefoot shoes, I get that you RUN on the balls of the feet, but do you still try to do this while just walking?? Seems like a goofy way to walk.

[@SoulDuJour]

Does it have to be barefoot? I wear Saucony Iso Frees which aren't as minimalist as the suggestions but they have a relatively wide toe box and flexible sole. I'm also a gout sufferer so I had to pay attention to this a little sooner

[@teatowel11]

I've got the vivo primus trail 2 shoes and honestly there is not that big of a difference between them and just getting some canvas shoes a size up and taking the insole out. Or you can just actually go bearfoot. As long as your shoes arent squishing your toes heaps, just strengthening your feet bearfoot for some of the day will still give you benefit

[@migueltrujillo341]

Idk man I like my vivos I have the primus lite 3 I just hate that sometimes they get uncomfortable the sides of my feet rub against them I think that’s why my calluses won’t go away but when I wear my ursus from bearfoot athletics I feel no pain or discomfort and both shoes are the same size I been wearing my vivos almost a year now

[@schmolck]

You are making a big mistake. If you "transition" to barefoot shoes they will allow you to run fast. You will have to be VERY carefull with your calves and you will make mistakes and it will be frustrating. If you run barefoot instead - through the woods - you will automatically run very very carefully and slowly and you will have the time of your life. Every step is a new sensation. Hot, cold, soft, grassy, greasy, rocky. It never gets boring, you will not care how fast you run, you will enjoy it like a child. You will look out for mud and puddles and smile because you can't wait to run through it. Running barefoot through the woods is so much fun, you have no idea what you are missing out on. As long as there was some rain in the last couple of days the ground will be soft enough to dampen your steps even if there are some rocks on top.

[@jzhvy333]

I keep getting plantar fascitis every time I wear barefoot shoes. I'm wearing orthotics to dull the pain. I'm starting to work on hyperarch training to strengthen the fascia. How should I approach this?

[@AnUnhappyBusiness]

Walk barefoot carefully for short distances and build up: your skin won’t let you go further than your muscular and skeletal development are ready for

[@gymtuppernation4703]

What’s up with Kai Greenes feet? U guys seen them bad boys??

[@dylan-reynolds4187]

Can anyone give me the link to those wide toe box shoes they speak about at 34 mins in, the "Ultras". I can't seem to find them anywhere

[@jesseschott2018]

Altras if that helps

[@laneervin730]

I have tried multiple times to buy vivos for the past 3 years. For some reason the website never accepts my debit card. I have gotten new debit cards and none work. I’ve emailed them to no avail. If there’s any way someone here in the comments or one of you great men on the show know what I can do to try to get them money for a pair of shoes. Many thanks in advance if anyone has some advice

[@jhoelscher93]

best shoe for standing on feet all day? i am a butcher

[@oliverbradley8755]

For my feet, I prefer xero to vivo.

[@XtianApi]

This problem is an epidemic. The feeling president needs to announce this to anyone who will listen.

[@yovino4862]

Some Vivobarefoot shoes wear out quickly

[@AnUnhappyBusiness]

Better to go barefoot first and I am serious: your skin won’t allow you to go further than your skeletal and muscular development can go, this you’ll spare yourself other possible much more painful injuries by suffering through some blisters for a few months

[@curanderoverde]

Transitioning to barefoot = buy barefoot shoes and wear them

[@ttytty6940]

It’s like doing karate

[@gunsnposes.363]

yeah...Tom Platz would be great!!

[@JoshalynnLove]

The Nike Alphafly. Jesus christ. Go look at those fucking foot caskets 😭

[@itsTOEKNEE]

Hi @MarkBellsPowerProject I just tried ordering the Vivobarefoot shoot but it doesnt look your your disctount code works. Is there any update referral code ?

[@migueltrujillo341]

And why do they laugh when they mention the goata guys I miss something?

[@UrNotThatGuyPal]

I will never understand people paying MORE money to get LESS shoe lol........ wut?

[@migueltrujillo341]

Bc it’s good for my feet why spend 100 on air force ones with a narrow toe box and uncomfortable af or 150 on Jordan’s when I can spend 150 on vivos and improve my feet at the same time

[@JohnWaxed]

How about some shoes that are under $150 😂 I’m want to try these out, but not for more than any shoe in my collection. How does a shoe with less r&d and materials behind it cost 3x?! Lmfao

[@codyboy221]

Supply and demand

[@anthonypicciano3803]

Look at xero. Under 100. Ben Patrick uses them