McKee's 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash - ONR Killer!

I'm not a big rinseless or waterless wash person but I understand the need for it and I'll use it when needed. Before jumping into N-914 let's talk about the old solution: ONR. I wasn't a huge fan of Optimum ONR because of the fact it had polymers in it & wasn't just a pure cleaner (think of car shampoos with stupid wax in them). After getting a lot of input from the guys at work and from some Obsessed Garage fans like Daniel Guss, we've decided to move to use McKee's 37 N-914 rinseless solution.
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[@b.k.hardin3655]

A good name for the new channel would be “Obsessed Essentials”

[@bajamike3803]

This^

[@clarityautodetails5304]

Yes

[@kajukuja]

I like it 👌

[@elisscaliving4776]

Oooo nice

[@jeffc6832]

Oh boy... I'm never THAT guy...but I do have a few thoughts based on my experience with years of rinseless washing with ONR here in the great white (and salty) north. I'm a rinseless zealot, I love it like you love your soap process. I do probably 100 rinseless washes per year. In addition to the fact that doing a 2 bucket wash outside here in MN is either very unpleasant or downright impossible for 6 months out of the year...I also have extremely hard water. I would blow through CR Spotless resin like crazy. I also have southern exposure in my driveway with no shade except at dawn/dusk. This is great in the winter, because I'll pull the car out and pressure wash it with hot water when it is 15 degrees and sunny and my driveway (usually) won't turn into a skating rink...then I'll just quickly retreat back into the garage and do my ONR process. Other than a few recent GSF washes, the only time I use soap and 2 bucket method is when I'm doing a decon prior to polishing...and even then I sometimes do rinseless. Because of the hard water and the fact that I'm always fighting the sun...I have to really rush through a soap wash and I don't enjoy that at all. I don't do waterless, though I do pretreat with Opti-Clean in the winter time when the car has been caked in road salt. The only other time I'll do waterless is if my car gets bird bombed right after I washed it. But even then, I always have a bucket of rinseless ready to go... So I will usually just wash that entire panel. All that said...here are some bullet points of my thoughts: - I'm with Kyle in that I believe rinseless means you just aren't rinsing the car before you dry it. Unless my car is only a little dusty, or has just been in a little rain...I always pressure wash it first. Then it is no longer a "superficial clean." It gets off the bulk of the dirt and crud, and gets into all the little crevices that you can't reach with a rinseless sponge or towel. - N914 is a great product. I would pick it over soap any day of the week. I've tried it off and on and I like it...but I still don't trust it like I do ONR. McKee's has some great products, but I'm sure they aren't mixing this up themselves. Their product line is ridiculously huge. Compare to Optimum, who has a tailored and minimalistic product line built around ONR. I trust Dr. G, and ONR has a proven track record. While I may not fully understand it, we know what is in it. We don't know what is in N914, I can't find an SDS sheet for it anywhere. I've requested one from McKee's, but they haven't responded. - I don't believe that the polymers "left behind" by ONR are a problem. They aren't adding any lasting protection, and if you are using a drying aid/topper it is a proverbial drop in the bucket. Lots of guys that use pad washers (including Levi and Anthony at TRC) use ONR in their pad washers, and I believe they have even used ONR as a SWA during polishing. To the extent that ONR is leaving something behind, it isn't going to cause any problems...and I think N914 leaves something behind too. - Levi and Anthony have done extensive testing on most (if not all) rinseless washes recently and they are sticking with ONR despite pulling a big chunk of the Optimum line from their store. Granted, it may be a business decision to stick with ONR...but I trust their judgment and opinion that ONR is the best option. - If you have experienced streaking with ONR, I think you probably had it mixed too strong. I've experimented with adding an extra capful or two to my bucket (256:1 is one capful per gallon of water) and that is the only time I've ever noticed any streaking. - I've experimented with ONR and N914 side by side. With the new formulation of ONR (released early this year I believe) I don't notice any difference in slickness between the two. I think the extra slickness people perceive with N914 may be a placebo...but I may also be biased towards ONR because I trust it. - In my process, I do regular quick interior wipe downs with ONR. I trust that ONR is safe for this, and isn't leaving behind anything that is going to damage or build up on my leather. McKee's doesn't advertise this use case, and I've never seen anyone else mention it either. - I'm always using ONR in the house. Windows, counters, floors, walls, stainless steel appliances...so I always have a bucket of ONR ready to go so I can fill my spray bottles from it, or dunk in a microfiber. I use rinseless sponges (Big Red Sponge and now Ultra Black Sponge from TRC) so I like to store them in solution. If I do this with N914, it starts to stink after a few days. As I said, I do think N914 is a great product...I just don't think it's for me. I'll be sticking with ONR, but if this gets more people on the rinseless train... I'm all for it. Soap isn't bad, but with the right process I do believe that rinseless is the superior wash method and it is safer for the paint.

[@trapcracker]

Great write up Jeff. I actually use ONR, N-914, and OP Eco Wash. It’s kind of complicated, but basically I use ONR when I’m using the Optimum synergy on a car that already has Car Wax or Opti-Seal on it, N-914 when a car has any other protection on it (mostly Turtle Wax Seal and Shine for me) since N-914 leaves nothing behind. I love that about it. Then I use OP Eco Wash when a car has any protection from Owner’s Pride on it (which I’m transitioning away from). I find ONR is the easiest to work with and takes the longest to dry, N-914 leaves nothing behind, and Eco Wash is the best cleaner. It’s almost an all purpose cleaner, it’s that good. In conclusion, I agree with pretty much everything you said but I like having all three in my arsenal for different purposes.

[@gregsullivan7408]

I suspect you are being over cautious about the leather - as Darren from Auto Fetish has told us 1000 times - in almost all cases, the leather is coated, and can be cleaned with general purpose fluids. (but he does still caution to test in an inconspicuous spot). I use a VERY strong cleaner on my "leather" for deep cleaning - Optimum Power Clean at 2:1. Not the slightest problem. Great post though - thanks.

[@jeffc6832]

@@trapcracker understood. I'll definitely be picking up a bottle from OG just to play with it more and have it as an option. ONR will always be in my regular process though.

[@jeffc6832]

@@gregsullivan7408 I know I'm being cautious, but I like ONR for maintenance and Colourlock for deep cleaning. Power Clean at 2:1 is a bold move (I use 3:1 for dirty neglected wheels)...but we all have our preferences.

[@Oher58]

I just got my bottle of ONR this week. I’ve been using Carpro Ech2O and wanted to see what onr had to offer. Ech2O has been phenomenal as rinseless/waterless and detail spray.

[@Skarstind20]

Curious to try this out and compare it to ONR. However, I just bought a gallon of ONR so in 5 years when I run out I'll buy this stuff lol

[@moneyparhar]

Try wolfgang Uber rinseless wash. It'd great product. Way more slicker than ONR

[@barrybij8079]

@@moneyparhar I've always thought mckee's and Wolfgang come from the same blender

[@scottmattern482]

@@barrybij8079 B&B bottling/Adam's makes Wolfgang, marine 31 (sic), pinnacle, and black label for autogeek. As far as I know, McKees mixes their own chemicals, but some companies don't like people to know that they source products from B&B.

[@barrybij8079]

@@scottmattern482 Bob mckee used to own autogeek and those brands. that's why I always thought they were cousin companies from the same blender.. you sure about b&b? it could be, they supply many labels

[@scottmattern482]

@@barrybij8079 I'm sure about b&b (they do over 400 companies products). Im not sure about Mckees process. They may have their own chemist and just have b&b do the mixing and bottling, or it might just be a white label product with their own branding. Generally, its too expensive to hire a chemist then build a manufacturing plant and bottling line to produce your own product. Its much cheaper to hire a mixer/bottler to do at least some of the process. Its not a bad thing, just necessary to get decent products to the consumer at a reasonable price.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

For those struggling with dilution, its easier to round the dilution to 250:1, meaning 4ml per litre. So much easier. We are hopefully getting this in the uk soon so will be testing it finally. Big rinseless fan

[@sebster6031]

You just saved me some headache there

[@jackmalby3904]

Are dilution ratios critical, ie Detailer as opposed to complete rinsless wash? Or are they the same?

[@ABG2412]

N-914 *does* "feel" slicker. What you feel with your hands does not automatically mean it protects better... An interesting little test can be found wherein dirty water in two jars had ONR in one, N-914 in another... The ONR jar = quick precipitation of the particles while the N-914 kept the particles in suspension - in fact, in another test, the Griot's product performed much better than the N-914 (but not as well as the ONR and requires 2x as much product). Encapsulating the dirt is a critical part of the rinseless wash. How they compare for this would be hard for most of us to test, but slickness felt by our hands is not a great way. Being able to use a single bucket and ensure that the dirt releases from the sponge AND drops to the bottom of the bucket is a key element of using the products as intended. ONR seems to have some significant advantages in matters related to a rinseless product working as it is intended. N-914 is certainly no slouch. It does smell pretty great and does feel slick. It also seems to be better at cleaning more stubborn contaminants. It is not an ONR killer.

[@jayhoughton558]

I did that test. You have it bang on.

[@ABG2412]

@@jayhoughton558 You did the original on the other sites or duplicated it for yourself? Either way, it is extremely interesting. In all honestly, I am not certain which one "protects" better when actually washing. Part of me believes the N-914 does not settle as much because it dissolves the particles more thoroughly (certainly removes visible discoloration from the sponge/towel especially well). Which is better for protection? I seriously do not know. I love them both. I wish I could just get rid of one and use the other exclusively, but instead, I go back and forth for different situations. They're both great. Thank you for the post!

[@jayhoughton558]

@@ABG2412 I posted in a few groups a month or so ago (maybe more) comparing them in jars. So I guess it depends where you saw it. I didn’t invent it as others have talked about it before. They have different strengths and different purposes I agree.

[@ABG2412]

@@jayhoughton558 I suspect the ones I saw then were the ones YOU did 👍🏻. Brilliant idea and nice job showing the results! Thank you!

[@jayhoughton558]

@@ABG2412 thanks. Glad it proved informative to many people :)

[@nwerdscissorhands7475]

9:17 "Matt, your cars are always clean. Why you always washing clean cars? Cuz I'm not a frickin delinquent, I like my cars clean so I wanna keep em clean" 🤣🤣🤣 classic Matty

[@ferryjansen4714]

This is so true, and just the way I like my car too. I just hate myself if I can't wash my car every week at least.

[@trustnoone4788]

Lmfo dude that was the best part

[@anthony3953]

It’s even easier to just dip your empty spray bottle into the bucket solution as you already have it diluted without having to dilute for the bottle as well!

[@Akarpens]

The rants are what make me want to buy all the things

[@allan5721]

I appreciate that Matt is willing to switch products when he finds something he likes better. Too many “retailers” (don’t shoot me Matt) build a relationship with one or two companies and are afraid to rock the boat by offering someone else’s product.

[@fiveoboy01]

He’s willing to use what he’s paid to review.

[@barrycook8116]

@@fiveoboy01 don't get him confused with pan the advertiser.

[@firstlast7584]

@@barrycook8116 what exactly does her advertise besides turtle wax?

[@fiveoboy01]

@@barrycook8116 I’ll say this. Matt isn’t 1% the shill that Pan the Advertiser is.

[@barrycook8116]

@@fiveoboy01 bottom line is he doesn’t care what products are good because he says they are all good. He gets paid tons of money to tell people TW is good. Matt actually uses products he thinks are the best and constantly changing. He tells is like it is. I use to watch Pam back in the day until he went into left field.

[@gregsullivan7408]

I'm a chauffeur and use the WATERLESS method exclusively, but I use the RINSELESS dilution of ONR to minimise the amount of streak removal I need to do. Yep - I also buff often 🤣 (a finishing polish gets the light marring out easily, and I'll be rid of the car WAY before the paint is worn down excessively)

[@PastaLaVista.]

Scratch test on a black car vs onr is needed to test the encapsulation abilities. I notice it doesn’t drag dirt to the bottom of the bucket like onr does

[@mcgman8058]

Matt, McKees interior detailer is amazing. please pick up more of their line !!

[@ninous26]

That random outburst at 9:18 was hilarious. Came out of nowhere. Can we please get a "Matty Roasting Compilation" or "Ask your wife" video?

[@clarityautodetails5304]

Try this stuff on the interior… especially on that matte black plastic in your bmw. You’re going to love it.

[@Jeeper1378]

What dilution ratio?

[@clarityautodetails5304]

256:1 just like washing the paint

[@theamericansgarage9087]

Matt: genius idea here for you guys. Would be killer if you found a way to get those job specific towels somehow died or labeled to break down the eight different portions of the towel numbered 1-8 when folded appropriately. So for example after folding and beginning cleaning it would be easy for the user to dirty part one, then flip to part two, then part 3, and so on. Even better would be if you could get all those towel manufacturers to produce the towels in white with color coded edges and OG labeling. So much easier to spot dirt on a white towel.

[@lefizzet]

Why waste time using the pipette when you can just make a big bucket of solution and fill your sprayer from the bucket. Most ppl do it this way.

[@yea_i_podagee_so_what]

some guys might just be making a quick detail spray for mini touch ups when birds decide to play target practice 😂 lol

[@motiOn732]

I use this for 3/4 washes. My cars are never THAT dirty and 2bm just not needed. This saves a ton of time, cleans better than ONR and just nice to use. Great product and method

[@Dortch3]

I've used it for a couple of years and recommend it. Do help me understand you here...what do you mean...."the bottle sux." What additional functionality are you looking for from it?

[@barrybij8079]

he hates the mckees label.

[@scottmattern482]

If you're not rinsing it off, how is it not leaving anything behind? I'm trying to find a reason why I would switch from ONR, but that sounds like snake oil if thats the only reasoning. Has anyone ever had a negative experience of the polymers supposedly left behind from ONR?

[@DaddyoftheMack]

Bob McKee came out with this in response to Meguiar's D114 being discontinued almost 5 years ago. Neither one "leave anything behind" such as polymers, gloss enhancers, etc.

[@luckypaco1148]

Hey Matt welcome to 2017! N-914 has been awesome for a while, did you mention that it leaves behind zero residue? no polymers, waxes, gloss enhancers, NADA, just clean paint.

[@arov235]

Obsessed Garage Unpacked would be a cool channel name

[@Nick210]

Love their floormat rejuvenator - can’t wait to try this.

[@tugbankert6581]

I can do an ONR wash, clay and wax and dry in 20 minutes and the vehicle is cleaner than using soap and in half the time

[@ireckon7351]

“Because I’m not a freakin’ delinquent, I like my cars clean so I wanna keep them clean.” You’re hilarious Matt, preach brother!

[@trapcracker]

Matt, any reason to use a trigger sprayer over the new Marolex pump sprayers to pre-soak?

[@bringyourwoodscrews]

I use an iK sprayer. Seems to be the way to go.

[@Jeeper1378]

As a normy i use a Worx Hydroshot with the new mist nozzle.

[@stylian0s]

Just make sure the short clips have the original video linked to, so we can see the full clip if necessary?

[@robbihongkong903]

You've got to be inflicting micro marring as a waterless wash.....do the same on a corrected black car....turn all the lights off in the unit then go-round with a single source light such as a large Scangrip.

[@seethruhead7119]

This is true. But so does a microfiber wash mitt with 2 bucket method. Go look at the recent video on Apex Detailing channel.

[@MikeGDetailing]

Good video Matt. Like you said everyone has a different process. For example mine is different as I’ve refined it from water restrictions years ago here in Southern California. But the overall concept is the same. N914 is a great product and actually it was a substitute replacement for Meguiar’s D114 which was discontinued and those of us looking for something that left nothing behind transitioned over to N914. Some maybe to young to remember this. I tried ONR and just wasn’t a fan of it. N914 just does a better job from my experience using it since it’s initial release. It is also a very good clay lube. I can just see all of the ONR folks who will be triggered saying it’s king and blah blah. It used to be but there are so many options these days that are even better. I also agree that opti-clean is as to streaky and I tossed it in the trash. Great job as always by the OG Team 👍

[@Jeeper1378]

Use a clean damp towel for the first drying pass. Follow with drying towel. Dirt on my drying towel is a sin 😂 Fwiw Kirkland towels are perfect for wheels. Toss when done.

[@Ninjatuuna]

“I’m not a delinquent 🤬” 😂😂😂 by far my favorite channel here on YT

[@tims]

I prefer the hour long version. It's my background watching during work.

[@AnteekeBro]

I think best way if you want your car super clean in all those extra areas: Pressure wash the car first, pre treat with rinseless wash in foam cannon(if you want) then go about your rinseless wash

[@ADDisAOK]

Pressure washing before ore treating means your pre treament isnt a ore treatment and the oressure wash is gonna blast all that dirt along your clear coat.

[@bmwlane8834]

Agree 100% with your opinion on interim cleaning. That's exactly how I will used this method.....just slightly better than detail spray. IMO

[@jackmalby3904]

Great clip as always Matt. Just to be clear, were you saying that you don’t use Detailer for these type tasks that you talk of? I’m from down under - a place called Queensland; currently in our summer with temps around 25 to 35C at the moment & rain (tropical summers - warm for the rest of the year). We do have cyclones come through (a lot of floods lately too). I only ever fully wash during those times (too risky otherwise with the crap that gets on the cars). Should I be using rinsless/waterless in lieu of Detailer? Cheers mate & I look forward to watching the smaller clips you talk of.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Correct. I never use detail sprays. You are likely scratching if you do.

[@FrostyAMG]

I get that for some people rinseless wash may be a necessity for either lack of a driveway or due to the climate, but my black wheels need bi-weekly washes to keep on top of them or they just look plain terrible. Gloss black wheel owners can relate 😂

[@Hb52354]

LOL you cant seriously think that's better than ONR. Another gimmick rinse-less.

[@patricktuggles4815]

It is. Have you used it?

[@muckeyn]

I’ve used 3 gallons of ONR (old formula). It’s great but N-914 is better (marginally) & I won’t be going back. I wouldn’t dump ONR if you already have it but it’s worth a try if you’ve run out.

[@henrycollins2478]

Have you tried it in a marolex sprayer? I feel like that might speed up the pre spray process

[@nwerdscissorhands7475]

I bought ONR & Wolfgang Uber Rinseless wash at the same time and Wolfgang quickly became my go too. I mostly use it as a drying aid rotated between Bead Maker as my other drying aid. I'll have to give this McKees a try.

[@MikeBee77]

Would you say that both Wolfgang Uber and Bead Maker are similar as drying aids based from your experience?

[@nwerdscissorhands7475]

@@MikeBee77 No, they're different. Bead Maker is a little streaky and takes a little more effort to dry. Wolfgang is much easier to dry but I'm not sure if it offers any protection.

[@seansean8008]

@@nwerdscissorhands7475 no protection, but a great drying aid/detail spray

[@richardl7759]

I always thought rinsless means that I don't have to rinse the car after the wash, and waterless means that i have only a bottle of the wash solution and that's it.

[@narutobroken]

Same

[@Ruhdiculus]

Rinseless means spray with pressure washer to get majority off, then use the towel in the solution to pick up with pluffle. Then it will leave lubrication for you to dry with the gauntlet. Waterless is spray with that solution, wipe with towel, then dry with towel.

[@jeffc6832]

@@Ruhdiculus EXACTLY!

[@josephonofrio7243]

Waterless- spray panel with waterless wash and wipe panel with DRY microfiber constantly rotating towel to clean side. Then dry with separate clean microfiber. Rinseless (many variations) Soak microfiber towels or special rinseless sponge in bucket of rinseless solution wipe panel with wash media then dry with towel. Biggest variable that many do on rinseless is prespray panel with solution and then wipe panel with soaked wash media then dry.

[@josephonofrio7243]

The pressure washer is not normally part of either a rinseless or waterless wash. However it's one of the many variables people use to develop their own "hybrid" system

[@jpmavichana]

Great video Matt! I been using N-914 for 5 years now. I primarily use it for window cleaning and polishing oil removal at 8:1 ratio. It just cleans and leaves nothing behind.

[@cheesedoodle2327]

That's because it's a surfactant just like soap. Onr is a polymer that actually encapsulates the dirt and makes it alot safer and does not scratch the paint

[@offdatgogo]

Can't wait to try this stuff. Been sticking with ONR for years. I also haven't purchased ANY "detail spray" in several years 🤣. Think "scratches" indeed 💯.

[@Jeeper1378]

Oh shit .. gonna trigger TRC guys haha 😂 N-914 cleans better. Love it as a WW also, considering it doesn’t mess with any toppers. I use the Meguiars hybrid mitt. Its got two sides. Worm and a microfiber pad. 2 buckets since im using one mitt. Does a excellent job at cleaning .. i never see any dirt on my drying towel.

[@MasterOfShine]

Hahaha

[@pauloguerra5710]

Love seeing Matt get fit and healthy. Love watching his journey. My ideas for the new OG Channel- Obsessed Garage Highlights. Obsessed Garage Spotlights. Obsessed Garage Pro Tips. Obsessed Garage A.D.D. Channel. Obsessed Garage Bro Tips. Obsessed Garage Fly-bys.

[@TheDailyDriven]

Agreed, haven't bought or used detail spray for years since subscribing to OG. Interesting product, definitely will get a bottle whenever I finish my bottle of ONR

[@cheesedoodle2327]

Onr works way better than this he must be getting paid to promote certain products

[@raysamson9411]

I would use the Rinseless Wash when OG is out of water hoses!

[@halz7]

You are on a roll today!!! Call it Condensed OG.

[@petejackson3113]

Hey Matt, I like your no nonsense, no BS style with a few rants thrown in for free! Shorts would be useful for a quickie but I would still go back to the longs for the normal you. I suggest "OG Unpacked" for the short version? BTW, Ive stayed away from rinseless but will have to use them now we have a hosepipe ban. Thanks for this video and good luck with the OG Unpacked!

[@thesamsquatch5224]

I would take this product for its multiple uses plus its very slick. I'm surprised he hasn't used it before pressure washing the car to encapsulate the dirt. Then rinse and wash by hand to minimize driving everything into the paint

[@timbrown9731]

Yeah I agree ONR does leave a lot of streaks for me on glass, it’s probably me...

[@plasticfrisbee]

How about calling it OG methods. Can't wait to make the switch after my OnR is gone.

[@mattjhuhn]

My smartass mind came up with "Garage Quickies"

[@Youknowitbby]

All for it 😂

[@anth115]

Can you explain how its a superficial cleaning and not as clean. What data or proof besides your assumption do you have to back that up that rinseless won't be as clean? Rinsless doesn't meant you don't use a pressure washer it means you don't rinse as a last step. We've seen evidence when used pre treated with pressure washer then the rinseless does a great job

[@SIat]

Hows the smell of this stuff compared to ONR? I honestly can't stand the way ONR smells its terrible

[@muckeyn]

Although I like the smell of ONR, the scent of n-914 is much more subtle

[@btb1205e]

AMMO Frothe is very good. It's the only "waterless" system I use, only for light dirt/dust.

[@AntoineThisdale]

Perfect timing. Im running out of onr and i also find it streaks under a drying towel. Very annoying. Also, Matt, i know the camera adds 10 pounds but damn bro, crossfit is showing results. The pipes are real.

[@aaroneberle5920]

"Obsessed Garage Direct" would be my suggestion. Not very unique but to the point.

[@matt2077]

I would say Obsessed Garage Shorts or Obsessed Garage Insights. Could also shorten them to OGS and OGI.

[@chrisnas1483]

What about for people who live in colder climates, using McKee in their window water reservoir ?

[@Kenpobruce]

The Channel for Shorts is " Chasing Perfection"

[@HOBrian2003]

I’ll subscribe to the Shorts, but I’ll be here to listen to Marty rant! You clean that unicorn Matt!!

[@Froztinc]

McKee's 37 new formula of Hydro Blue is freaking amazing Matt! Please check it out

[@bbllaakkee]

Obsessed Quickies would be a good name for the clip channel

[@jpr96]

Would you consider using the N914 with the ultra black sponge/big res sponge?

[@user-qn6yt3zx3w]

Painful to watch Matt spray the whole car with a trigger spray! Dump the used towels in a bucket of water (or ONR), to really ensure they come out of the subsequent wash (laundry machine) really clean.

[@1995trento]

Any difference between pre wash and post wash gloss metre readings would likely be completely eaten up by inaccuracy, so that whole process would be pointless. Why do you need a number for “gloss” before and after washing? You wash to get the car clean…

[@Jeeper1378]

Absolutely, hey i have a ton of ONR i use specifically for this if i cant wash right away.

[@toruhirao4975]

As far as rinseless presoak spraying systems, need to look into Detail Kegs. I've got mine hooked up through a 1/4 air hose reel with a sprayer. Game changer with pre-spray at 150psi. This system can be used to blast off bugs and loose dirt on panels /wheels and is the only thing that's successfully allowed me to use rinseless as a true alternative to foam + bucket wash.

[@Jeeper1378]

Worx Hydroshot works great too

[@carlosbarajas]

@ 9:15 when Matt says, " I'm not a freaking delinquent!" Is golden. 🤣 Love this. Love your content Mr.Moremnan. 🙏

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

Not a fan of any kind of rinseless wash, no matter how many times people say it doesn’t scratch the car. BUT sure seems like the nice pressure sprayers would be perfect for this kind of product. The hundred hand squeezes per panel just seems so DIY/make shift.

[@gk7588]

N914 is far better than ONR….been using both for the the past few years. However, if you want a rinseless that is better than N914 in every way, try the Gloss Shop’s Sublime. Same dilution ratio’s as N914, leaves nothing behind, better cleaning power, and noticeably more lubrication. Try it out next to n914 and you’ll see the difference.

[@hotpepper684]

Just got some N914. Any thoughts on using their sponge? I never bought into the idea of the BRS even when using ONR. Has anything changed this time around?

[@Ravenzer0x]

Obsessive shorts or unpacking obsession. That's my contribution

[@buffalo241]

Don't be a delinquent. Wash your darn car... LOL

[@patrickrodriguez36]

Ive been using this stuff for 6 months now and i love it

[@acrviper10]

Video ends- Pulls gt3rs outside and washes it lol 😆

[@barrybij8079]

the only rinseless wash that I believe cleans better than 914 is fenylab.. but it's neck and neck

[@redsresearch]

do you own the red and black obssssd products???

[@kl2586]

Hi Matt! Very interested in using this as a waterless solution for my car that is vinyl wrapped. Wondering at its waterless dilution concentration, do you know if it can be used with a foam sprayer like the IK Pro 2 or the Marolex Axel? Thanks!

[@GrandHuevotes]

I’m an ONR user but also have a bottle of chemical guys rinseless wash I’ve never really used and thought what the hell so I mixed some up in a bottle and sprayed my door Jambs down and it’s one of the slickest feelings I’ve felt. Was kinda blown away. I looked up the SDS for CG rinseless and it has carnuba wax in it. Maybe that’s why? What I previously thought may be garbage might turn out to be really good. I’m hesitant to try it as rinseless for my main car body though since it’s a brand new car. Waiting for someone to review it. Also would you try DIY Detail rinseless?

[@ObsessedGarage]

The key to rinseless is that it has the proper surfactants to encapsulate. I don't want my rinseless leaving anything else behind.

[@cheesedoodle2327]

​​@@ObsessedGarageMcKees is strictly surfaces it's the polymers that encapsulate...that's why onr is better I mean you gotta use what your paid to use so i understand

[@QuidproMoto]

how about "OG Quick"?

[@1209MArky]

Just call it OG shorts

[@ryeguy88]

I would love to see a spoof series (cause you guys have so much spare time ; ) ) of OG doing something like Steve Brule's Rules (John C. Reilly) from the Tim & Eric show where it's purely the just wrong way to do things.

[@ciriciri9071]

So not even optimum instant detailer used anymore?

[@1209MArky]

He stopped using that years ago

[@scamdogbro]

Focused by Obsessed Garage. I'll still want Matty rants on the main channel tho.

[@timbrown9731]

I don’t know Matt it’s gonna be hard for me to switch over from ONR, however McKees stuff is pretty good, unfortunately it’s going to take me about five years to jump to the stuff lol ....

[@Jeeper1378]

Wheels i use the sio2 version. Mid week i will use the sio2 version with 2/3 Kirkland towels (toss in garbage after). Also leaving behind some sio2 behind. Come the weekend i will do a complete wash of the wheels and they clean up easily. I also use the sio2 version on my exhaust tips. Works fantastic as long as they are kept up.

[@bringyourwoodscrews]

As much as I love the Pressol bottles I prefer an iK MultiPro 2 for rinseless pre-treat. Used N-914 for the first time today. Can't say I like it more or less than ONR. I do like that nothing is left behind.

[@b374mxg]

That wash and car are fantastic. It looks super, super, super

[@johnwalters878]

This method is perfect for airplanes, where water is limited and washing a plane the conventional way ends up in spots because it’s too hard to get the water off quickly.

[@moneyparhar]

I never used ONR. I used wolfgang Uber rinseless wash. Way more lubrication and water beading is amazing.

[@djdecember1]

Just tried this stuff. Cleaned very very well at 1:128. However it streaked and I sprayed less than half what I've seen you did. Wolfgang didn't clean as well. But didn't streak. Trade one for the other. Ah well

[@chasemer6]

Channel Name: “Obsessed Unpacked”

[@bbdetailing9123]

N914 replaced ONR for me some time back. Seems better lubrication and cleaning. Thanks for video, Matt. PS, works quite well as a clay lube

[@seethruhead7119]

I think you should try rolling the towel across in a single direction. Not rubbing it back and forth.

[@christophebuisson7536]

I dont get how you can clean a car without rinsing it first to remove possible particles (dust, dirt, sand) that would scratch the paint ? I always rinse the car before applying the soap.

[@jacksonhodges942]

Keep it the same name +shorts. Allows new viewers to understand it’s just a arm of a bigger more in depth channel. When channel owners that do similar videos but have totally different names for said channels it’s sloppy.

[@aarontyrrell2931]

Right on Matt, a clean car is a clean car! Or unicorn!

[@MTNorville]

Is there any reason why one would not use a pump spray bottle to keep your hands from cramping up like mine would?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yeah, I’m not a baby.

[@MTNorville]

@@ObsessedGarage dang shots fired on the cripple xD

[@muckeyn]

@@MTNorville never understood why Matt doesn’t use a pump sprayer for this. I guess when he says work smarter not harder it doesn’t apply here. I know he’s complained about pumping pump sprayers in the past but pumping a spray bottle is just as tedious for a job like this... I’ve always used a pump sprayer for rinseless until I found a 64oz battery operated pump sprayer. It doesn’t atomize well and the spray pattern is wonky. I wouldn’t use it for anything else. But for a rinseless my goal is just to wet the panel and it does a great (and quick) job.

[@gjodexter]

It’s a, I want to go for a drive in a clean looking car but not to a car show. You need to build a form cannon process for a touch less wash. Heavy rinse, foam it and blow dry it. I have a process that works on a car that hasn’t seen rain.

[@michaeljames1248]

OG Snacks. Bite size content- humble name suggestion.

[@fatalostriches8618]

I like to use the rinseless washes in the winter in my garage. Is there a reason you prefer this to AMMO Frothe?