McLaren were spared EVEN WORSE dilemma

McLaren missing out on Silverstone 1-2 might have been for the best, kicking the team orders can down the road.
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In this video, we explore the recent missed opportunity for a home win by McLaren and how it might have been a blessing in disguise, potentially avoiding conflicts between Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri. We delve into McLaren’s risk-averse strategies and how their conservative approach has historically cost them crucial wins. This video also sheds light on the intricate dynamics between drivers and team decisions, emphasizing the need for McLaren to balance driver input with strategic decisiveness. Despite these challenges, McLaren's rise as a front-running team with a competitive car shows great promise. We discuss their recent races, including the Austrian Grand Prix, where strategic decisions paid off, indicating progress. Learn about the lessons McLaren needs to embrace, from being more proactive in their strategy to handling internal team dynamics better. Join us as we analyze their journey, the mistakes they've recognized, and what they need to do to fully capitalize on their potential. Don't miss out on the inside scoop on McLaren's exciting path back to the top of Formula 1!
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[@LawVS]

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[@Ronny999x]

Would Pato O'ward have an Escape Clause? In case an F1 team calls? He would be a no Brainer choice for Red Bull. Considering the 35 million Mexican sponsorship + Merchandising is very important to them🤑

[@justgary2471]

Oscar is flying under the radar. All the hype surrounding everyone else while Oscar’s just maturing at an incredibly fast rate.

[@LawVS]

Yep and he keeps his anger behind closed doors whilst also vocalising his disappointment calmly when in public.

[@WhiteG60]

@@LawVS I'm not a McLaren fan, but I don't dislike them at all. I said to my buddy last week when they were in Austria that I like Oscar, because he's never on the radio pissing and moaning about all the other drivers. If he sees something, he says it once but only when it's a slam dunk like Hamilton and the pit entry. Unlike Lando, who was miles back but 'THEY BOTH REJOINED VERY UNSAFELY!' for the Mercs. Like, piss off, Lando. You've got a faster/better car than them. Just beat them on track. Oscar just seems to be the ONLY driver that isn't constantly trying to tattle on the rest of the field. I'm a Merc fan, but Russell is CONSTANTLY doing it and it drives me bonkers that he's more worried about what everyone else is doing.

[@keschbo]

@@WhiteG60 That's what's getting on my nerves the most when watching the recent races. Mostly Hamilton, Russel, Verstappen and Norris, but most drivers are guilty of this. Piastry on the other hand is so calm when driving and afterwards, you easily forget that it's only his second season in F1!

[@BioFake1]

The fact is that complaining on the radio sometimes works (or it may look like it does) and until it doesn't anymore, drivers will use it. If there's a chance that it gives you an advantage, you HAVE TO use it, that's how fierce competition works. It's quite the same in football (real football, not the American thing) when players dive and roll on the floor "crying" after any contact.

[@kikay134]

@@WhiteG60 Oscar DID tattle on Lewis in Austria. 🤣 As for George, it's partly because of his nature, and partly because he's the GPDA director/union rep.

[@sanderdeboer6034]

If McLaren don’t win the constructors championship this year they really screwed up. Fighting a one man team with better cars should be a done deal.

[@toolegittoquit_001]

They should give a hat tip to Checo 😬

[@siloPIRATE]

@@toolegittoquit_001he’s secretly still a McLaren driver

[@jorgealbertomartinezortiz374]

But McLaren are experienced in screw a season with a good car and awesome drivers, look how 2007 went by

[@realdaddydagoth69]

@@jorgealbertomartinezortiz374 or 2012 for that matter

[@Dyils]

They could have got to P2 in the constructor's in Silverstone if they had done a 1-2 like they should have. I actually would have preferred if that happened even as an RB fan because the idea of the fastest car STILL having a lot more wind tunnel time than RB worries me. If they remain 3rd, it does not accurately represent their actual car's performance and treats them as having a slow car with extra wind tunnel time.

[@serj553]

I honestly believe that Piastri has a higher ceiling than Lando. Oscar's biggest weakness rn is his tire management, which has been improving considerably in the last couple of races. He is the real deal! As soon as he is able to cease a victory (which I believe is gonna happen this year), McLaren is gonna have a very intricate driver situation on their hands.

[@Cavi587]

Yeah. Lando is GOOD and we all know it, but Oscar is already good and he's maturing. I don't think Lando can go much higher, although I might be wrong, but Oscar is definitely not in his prime yet. Give him a year or two and he'll surpass Lando.

[@JC-lu4se]

His main issue is he's too nice and compliant. The greats like Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton aren't nice guys on the track. They fight to win.

[@ctykckcktyvc7558]

@@JC-lu4sejim clark was nice and is probably the best driver to sit in a race car of all time

[@KBSimRacing]

Oscar is playing the team game because its his 2nd year in F1. By next year he would have proven that he's a qualified F1 driver and 100% is in the running for wins and possibly the championship.

[@Davo2times]

there’s already so many flashes. there should be no #1 driver next year for mcclaren. optimize both cars and let the drivers battle (ofc they won’t actually do this, too much to lose) but there should be very little bias in who they want winning until the last few races if the championship is in the balance.

[@JC-lu4se]

@@Davo2times Lando is the chosen one. Let's see if Oscar gets that little bit better and then the two drivers will start tussling for the win. If Lando still gets the number 1 treatment, Oscar will be gone to another team.

[@Surfsaus]

Guess what mclaren are doing the next two weeks? Practising double stacks. In time oscar will do what needs to be done and go against teams orders when he knows they are wrong.

[@LawVS]

It will definitely something to consider.

[@MurrayMaunder]

And getting Mika down to the MTC to talk to the drivers, especially Lando.

[@superxavxii421]

Oscar needs to take some notes from his rival Sainz. He needs to take strategy into his own hands now

[@andrewhazlewood4569]

Except his mentor is Webber who despised Vettel for ignoring team orders, costing him dearly. I don’t think Piastri will buck the system but the team may do what they did at Qatar last year - order Lando to hold position.

[@TheZachatree]

I’ve said this for years…. Lando is great but he will never be GREAT. Even if he gets in a good car he lacks the emotional intelligence to be a champion great. I don’t think it’s something that he will grow into ether. It’s just who he is. Oscar is the total opposite. Oscar is going to do really big things if he stays driving competitive cars.

[@chaserdown]

Harsh, but accurate.

[@desshinnick9365]

I disagree, he's rough on the edges now but it will come. Oscar does have it now, and also has the ability to look dangerous against Verstappen. Oscar is masterful. I expect him to be the better driver by next season.

[@motelghost477]

Lando is fast but I think Oscar will ultimately prove to be the better driver, he's far more level-headed and makes better decisions under pressure.

[@TheMikelleh]

I think McLaren and Ferrari should be throwing money at Hannah Schmitz instead of Newey. The fact they were still deciding - on the radio - while Lando was already on pit lane, shows the lack of strong decision making.

[@KangaRooTube]

Exactly, and the fact they ask the driver to make the decision for them is ridiculous. The driver doesn't have all the information they have and it isn't the driver's job to make the strategy. It especially affects Lando when he's always hard on himself when he makes the wrong decision. Like his missed win in 2021 when the rain came in on the last lap, he should be ordered and not asked, especially when he doesn't have any of the data the team can see.

[@davidchapman3042]

Well said by both, the sheer incompetence on their pitwalls is extraordinary,how could you ask ur drivers whilst hes finding his foot around the fastest track on calender in wet and expect him to make a decision,allthewhile,they should have never been in a position of lack of info given their job at hand. Ferrari and mclaren may well produce a dominant benchmark but its all going to go to shitter from their own incompetency.

[@biljancanin]

​@@KangaRooTube it is ultimately the drives decision to call what tires to choose and when to go in. They are the ones on the track feeling the car, feeling the track knowing if they can or can't drive with the equipped tires. Charles blatantly listened to the team, and we've seen how that went. Carlos blatantly said no to that early pit stop. Lando wanted to be the Brit winning at Silverstone, especially after he won in Miami, and after the shenanigans in Austria. Lando can't keep a cool head, Charles is even worse

[@KangaRooTube]

@@biljancanin not always, the teams can see what tires the other teams are on, and see how they're performing, and can see what the weather conditions are going to be. Last weekend I think the team should have said " we think the soft tire is best so we can defend against Lewis" ect. Then Lando wouldn't be at all to blame for choosing the wrong option. And if Lando decides I want Mediums, then of course the team should listen and give him Mediums.

[@Duncan23]

Piastri is a future team leader, he is showing he has what it takes in all departments.

[@RanbirForever04]

im personally waiting for oscar to start standing up for himself

[@LawVS]

I think we will start to see that going forward and into 2025.

[@clansome]

@@LawVS tbh I think Oscar DOES stand up for himself, Lando is the ditherer relying on the pitwall rather than his own natural instncts. That is something every other driver that finished in the top 5 has; better decision making skills than their strategists sometimes. Lando is like Charles in that regard and leans far too heavily on what the team think might be the right choice rather than offer up his own decisive suggestion first.

[@KevPezJALP]

Piastri is the man. He’s got a damn good future

[@Gopher31]

Look at both Oscars and Landos conversations for tyres for the last stint. Oscar looks like a champion in the waiting while Lando seems to fragile.

[@salim_abid_]

yh but Mclaren communicated very mixed data to him. They basically told Lando he could cover Verstappen with the mediums, to secure P2 but basically give Hamilton the win. Or cover Hamilton but be vulnerable to Verstappen. Also, They messed up his pitstop, Which ruined his last stint

[@maxioh576]

@@salim_abid_ while it was the team's fault for communicating the wrong tyre type, Lando made the call to stay an extra lap out. He'll grow from this but Oscar does look better in decision-making on the fly at the moment.

[@HARRY__Pecker]

this comment makes no fxcking sense hahahaha just say you're an Oscar fan, bud. No need to make up weird, non-existent reasons to like Oscar over Landon

[@errikos9968]

@@maxioh576Well Lando also told them to put for inter one lap earlier like Max but Mclaren said no. Which pretty much could have allowed Oscar to box a lap earlier and not lose any time to Hamilton and Russel but they didn’t listen to him

[@Mr42crew]

I kind of agree......its a bold sweeping statement. But I think we could all agree that when the pressure is on.....Lando seems to be quite frantic in the car ( I mean any of us would be as well) but Oscar does seem to be quite calm and calculated....which you would all agree is a good sign for the future End of the day, I want one of either Lando or Oscar to win. McLaren def bottled this weekend but hopefully can bounce back next week

[@arg_9584]

Oscar chilling for now, either he gets the win on merit or he gets lucky and the leaders crash out. His luck has been pretty bad this season, while he’s made some mistakes here and there he’s been great so far.

[@Ducky39101]

Piastri and Albon are my favourite drivers. I get good calm and collected vibes from the both of them.

[@NexuJin]

bwoah

[@aubanurmi]

Mine too, but I have soft spot for Verstappen and Hamilton

[@KKH3110]

Albon - They are racing me so hard. Just jking

[@ThatOneGuy5540]

@@KKH3110welcome to Formula 1 (lol)

[@AnimaDweller]

I've seen Oscar mature and learn q lot more in 2 years than Lando did in 5. Look out for Piastri not if but when he finally learns how to keep his tires in good condition and I can honestly see him consistently beating Lando

[@user-vj1om3ku9e]

The messed up Oscars strategy 😢 he could win with the mediums

[@joshuajasper4160]

Lando's?

[@errikos9968]

@@joshuajasper4160They also ruined Lando’s race but sadly nobody wants to admit it

[@BakesBread001]

When Ferrari messes up, people are quick to point it out. McLaren does similar errors. McLaren are a top car at the moment and they need to race like a top team.

[@nicolekovala]

Oscar’s race was more ruined than Lando’s

[@agraiell5048]

@@errikos9968 It's ok,the guy is been getting alot of hate recently,for whatever reason. I doubt it will stop either,but yeah he got royaly screwed by the team and got p3 instead of a p1.

[@janusalt]

I love how Oscar is picking up his race pace and starts to challenge Lando

[@JennaMeyer-zf3bn]

Race engineer blew the race with the conservative approach to making decisions. Missing a double stack lost the race opportunities. Still amazed over the call and its impact on the race.

[@micsunday14]

Holding piastri was Zach's call. I don't think he wanted piastri to beat lando. Also the call for the mediums was very clear for Oscar. He made the call. Why didn't lando?

[@desshinnick9365]

It wasn't conservative decisions it was repeated indecision and repeated poor decisions. And it was more likely the strategist and race engineer.

[@JennaMeyer-zf3bn]

@@desshinnick9365 I can agree with that,, I was trying to not be too agreesive in my comments. But it is what it is I suppose.

[@Surfsaus]

Good video. To sum it up, mclaren arent a top tier team that are ruthless. Oscar wont put up with a team that doesnt allow him to shine and why should he. Just let them race as long as they are respectful.

[@LawVS]

They can be and Austria was a masterstroke. They just need to have the convinction to stick to a plan or think on the fly or react within SECONDS.

[@rhysahkiin123]

I’m a McLaren boy. Always have been. My theory is that the majority of the problem is landos race engineers. He ALWAYS sounds like a deer in headlights.

[@rhysahkiin123]

@@martingonzalez2850 his engineer literally said. Meds to cover ver and softs to cover ham and he 100% should’ve gonnonto the meds.

[@desshinnick9365]

And the strategist. I'm guessing there is someone there, and possible in a lesser role who would have made the right call but the kyer person is indecisive. They need to remove that person. Even Ruth Buscomb the strategist commentator was calling it correctly from the commentary box with her knowledge and seeing what was going on.

[@biljancanin]

Man, you can't blame his engineer. He gave him the info. It was Lando who couldn't keep a cool head. On the orher side, Charles blatantly listened to the team pitting for Inters way too early. I swear, Oscar is more mature than these 2 who are older than him. He doesn't complain, yell, and what so...

[@victorvale1015]

@@biljancaninare you seriously going to blame Charles for being given wrong info? Neither driver should have been making the call, only giving their input if it’s a difficult one

[@rhysahkiin123]

@@biljancanin please listen to landos race engineer on the radio and tell me he doesn’t sound like he’s always panicking

[@clintonmaher6930]

Lando talking everywhere about how he threw away the win and how it should have been his... Did he not see Piastri closing in mirrors and getting within 0.5 seconds and generally looking faster and more comfortable with the conditions?

[@kurnlouis7117]

I'm laughing at Zak being the new Toto to Christian

[@tristanskipworth4377]

Yeah, I am just getting tired of it. Like STFU and beat Red Bull on the track. Stop hurling insults and claims like a 2-year-old.

[@TedSchoenling]

Lando is not Carlos... Carlos has cycles to make key decisions in the car.. Lando seems to not have that ability. He is quick, but he isn't cool enough in the car to make high pressure decisions.

[@CarimboHanky]

oscar will become a verstappen-type of villiant, more cool headed tho

[@pietervanbreda4360]

Oscar is quicker and better than Lando , no argument about it . He had a sprint win long before Lando's first win and had 2 sure wins this year witch McLaren fu..ed up for him.

[@AajasAhmed]

I 100% agree, but brother Norris fan girls want to know your location ☠️

[@brandonhollis9882]

Um, there IS an argument about it. Last I checked Lando is 11-4 up in qualifying sessions (including sprints) and 9-3 up in GPs. Funny how reality doesn’t match your declaration of Oscar being the quicker and better.

[@ellwoodzz5000]

How can you even say that? Look at the qualifying stats and the standings.

[@gdkey8025]

When does the William's Dark age end? i've been waiting for 26 years!

[@JMRope]

Pretty sure I read somewhere Oscar said he wanted to pass Lando before the first stops so that he would be the one getting the better strategy. Would have been interesting to see how McLaren would have acted if Oscar did try making a move. In the end he would have been better off dropping back for the double stack and I guess that is a mistake on Oscar's part. But if he does get the upper hand over Lando I don't see Lando getting it back.

[@carolyntreadwell6298]

The contrast between Oscars pit wall comunications and Lando Pit wall comunication is stark! Come on team McLaren, you have the data, so be concise with Norris - On the radio Norris asked , he said he did'nt mind what tires "medums ?"

[@MahF1V10]

It's cool they ask the driver their opinion, but ultimately it's not their role. Mclaren is trying to run before they can walk.

[@a1white]

The way they worded the question too “soft to cover off Hamilton”. Lando having to make a split second decision based on that wasn’t fair on him. They knew Medium is better just say, “we believe Medium will last better”

[@shrikanyasengupta4457]

Oscar, Zhou and Bottas are the calmest drivers on the grid and it's a shame the latter 2 are being severely compromised, unable to show what they can do.

[@bjs7442]

I understand what you are trying to say but you cherry pick the facts. There was a discussion between Lando and his engineer on tyres His engineer said we prefer softs. So Lando agreed. However they never told Lando that Hamilton was on softs. I think if he had known that he would have changed to medium. Then the engineer said mediums to cover Max and he has just put on hard or Softs to cover Lewis. Lando wanted to win the race so he was being told that Softs were the option. Secondly Lando eased off after Max got past to save his tyres and he was not bothered that Oscar was catching as he could have sped up at any time to ensure the position. Oh In the Australian GP you do realise that Lando before the last lap George shunt was a clear 12 secs ahead of Piastri fully justifying the swap. When the swapped Landos tyres were much younger and he was being held up.

[@ToxicAWOL]

McLaren is not used to being a contender, which also includes the drivers. Max and Lewis can make calls because they have a better understanding of the car and the track, and knows when they ego their strategists, it’s because they know they can pull it out of their ass 90% of the time. Norris doesn’t have that understanding, and McLaren doesn’t understand that either. The dude hasn’t been fighting at the front until the latter half of the 2023 season. How would he know? Oscar is honestly in a better position since he is getting a title contender car almost right off the bat, making it easier for him to understand how the car plays, albeit not to the degree he should ego his strategy constantly. They are trying to punch up faster than they are prepared for and are costing them a lot. If it was not for the fact that Max is the only real point scorer of Redbull, they would be screwed BIG TIME.

[@josetakapele]

Can’t have a favorite if you mess it up for both of them

[@AlexGreat87]

The thumbail title is fire "dodged a papaya bullet" should be the name of a song of a Caribbean pop band

[@gabrielplattes6253]

😂👍

[@markshearer1831]

It seems everyone keeps telling us that the McLaren should have won when they didn't every other race this season. while both of their drivers, their car, and the development team all seem on point. the one thing they haven't as yet gained that culture of winning. I'm sure in time it will come. I certain hope so and one of my favorite teams I look forward to it. as an Australian I hope it's Oscar, but given the British bias Lando will of course be the main focus of the media. I love you to do a compare between the reactions to results between the two red car drivers. It seems the guy staying is free to complain about the car, the team, and everything other than his own performance and they one getting the boot is protecting the team and remain positive.

[@kgminer2]

I feel like part of the issue for McLaren is that they can’t simply say they need the team to take more initiative in making a decision. Cause you can only go back to the Dutch GP of last year where Lando and Oscar were both begging to be put on the Inters but the team was saying the slicks were competitive while Perez was literally flying through the field. That was another massive strategy blunder that came from the team not listening to their drivers feedback from the track. So the team has had incidents both ways either making a mistake listening to the driver or not listening to them when they should have. They simply fail to identify when they need to make the call vs do what the driver recommends

[@Games_and_Music]

18:38 I had been saying the same thing, i think Lando is pushed into 'desperation' by Oscar, while also trying to give his everything to catch up or keep Max at bay. The crash last time i think could've been prevented as well if Oscar was doing a Checo and dangled at the back and not being any threat. But Oscar is right behind him, so Lando wants to keep his position no matter what AND push forward to get Max, which eventually puts him in a very tight spot, which he obviously is not ready to handle yet. The fact that Oscar went for the Mediums right away, while Lando was still convinced that the Softs were the best, and "covering Lewis" (which i think was a mistake anyway, because you want to overtake, not cover, but okay), the team should've intervened and put the Mediums on. He could've overtaken Lewis, which meant that Max had to battle Lewis and Lando for the win, but with Lando probably having a bigger margin than Lewis did at the end, plus still having more pace in the tyres as opposed to the worn Softs at the end. Lando and McLaren really messed up, and Oscar is just like: "Ah well, disappointed, but eh, better luck next time eh?.", McLaren should be grateful that he isn't making headlines, because Zak could.. or rather should have his hands full with his own team. btw, do you scoop the litterbox from the ladder, or do you take it down, and also, does the cat climb the ladder as well? If so, i'd like to see a cat-cameo!

[@charlesjmouse]

This comment is in no way meant to be a slur in any direction, the margins are slight after-all... I wonder if on balance Lando has a little more 'talent' and Oscar a little more 'smarts'. Enough of a difference that the drivers need to be treated differently: "Lando, we're going to..." vs "Oscar, what do you want to..." Nico - I've said it before - the most underrated driver of a generation, a result of his size being a big handicap under previous rules.

[@GrittyMcGee]

You keep saying Lando fumbled it regarding the tire choice. His race engineer came over the radio and framed question like this “Do you want softs to cover Hamilton or Mediums to cover Max” If that’s the way it’s framed, obviously he will say softs because he wants to go for the win and he doesn’t have the data in front of him. Any half decent strategy would of told him medium is the best tire and that’s that.

[@LawVS]

Basically, Lando was not able to commit to a medium set of tyres which he had experience of in Austria and also no other team had the medium option.

[@errikos9968]

@@LawVShe didn’t commit to the medium because they presented it as if you go on the mediums you lose the race but keep P2

[@brandonhollis9882]

The whole way the situation was presented to Lando on the radio was a complete mess. Conversely, Oscar’s side clearly and concisely suggested the medium, he agreed. The pit wall needs to be more decisive and proactive

[@GrittyMcGee]

@@LawVS I’m not sure what Austria has to do with anything? Different track, different temperatures, different setup and the medium in Austria was the C4 compound while in Silverstone it was the C2 compound. End of the day, he was told the softs will help him fight for the win. ANY driver would take the softs if that’s the information being given.

[@i4lindblad]

@@LawVSBasically, it’s clear you prefer Oscar but it isn’t hard to admit that Oscar’s side of the garage portrayed the situation clearer to him than Lando’s side. Obviously, it is clear Lando can’t make clearer choices compared to Oscar who put his foot down with the medium but the pitwall was wishy washy with Lando and still decided the final call.

[@pandap0i]

I love McLaren n their drivers, but i never liked zack browns whining, i always support the young drivers and mclaren has that, redbull had that(then came checo) I think lando and piastri are my current favourite rising stars, and i do find it amazing that max is where he is at his age. Piastri however, i like his attitude, instead of whining about staying out, he takes it in stride... something i dont see even in some mature world champions... i hope piastri stays the way he is, i have so much respect for him!

[@tristanskipworth4377]

I really think McLaren needs to consider changing their strategist and race engineers. It just doesn't make sense. It is almost like they just want to keep Oscar and Lando happy and will yield to their decisions. Winning races will keep them there, choking won't.

[@griffinkadar163]

Just in time for my morning coffee! Thanks Law!

[@salim_abid_]

Mid afternoon coffee, Croissant and Law vid 👍

[@AKACitizan101]

Who’s to say it’s not Oscar and Max fighting for 2025.

[@martinavery3979]

Oscar was going for the harder tyre. Logically, he was positioned to run a longer last stint. Pitting Lando first doesn't make sense I wonder if Oscar has something about team orders in his contract, it's a touchy subject for Mark Webber & it sometimes looks like McLaren strategy is working to avoid them.

[@TheQuackleDKZ]

Mclaren has a frontrunning car but they are NOT a frontrunning team. They just aren't there yet. Not by a longshot. They crack under pressure and they're not even in an actual championship fight.

[@phinnos1130]

New to F1, and have been enjoying the content. Helps the stories make sense for me. Keep up the ladder (and the good work).

[@shu6037]

new viewer here. i like the lunatic vibes

[@nealfirstofhisname]

Based on the 'Grill the Grid' videos Formula 1 put out over the past few years, I think Lando is not that clever.

[@brandonhollis9882]

Didn't realize "Grill the Grid" was an IQ test. He's obviously more clever than you and I to have figured out a way to become extremely successful in a competitive sport, super rich, and extremely popular.

[@nealfirstofhisname]

@brandonhollis9882 I like Lando, but being good at driving and having a dad worth £250 million+ are not evidence he's clever.

[@brandonhollis9882]

@@nealfirstofhisname Neither are responses to some silly social media video ...that's my point. I have a feeling he is a whole lot more clever than you think.

[@a1white]

Why did they even offer the soft to Lando? They had the stats and knew the medium was best for those amount of laps. Saying to him “Soft to cover off Hamilton” was dumb. He was forced to make a split second decision which should have been decided by the pit. Lando probably didn’t know Hamilton was only on Soft, because they had no Mediums.

[@jasonconnolly2873]

Re: Oscar. It's not a case of If but When he wins a WC.

[@LawVS]

He's calm under pressure RIGHT NOW. Or at least he's able to mask it well.

[@jasonconnolly2873]

@@LawVS never underestimate the power of a Melbournian lol Go Aussie enjoying your videos its like your reading my mind making valid suggestions. reading the room in F1 is almost impossible and yet your fingers on the pulse my son. keep up the good work. im 50yo and followed motorsport F1all my life, drivers like Mansell, Senna, Prost, Lauda, Hunt, Shumacher the list goes on. i raced go karts, sprint karts, formula Vee, formula ford, along with some action in my local rally sports car club which i competed in a 74 model datsun 1600 with independent rear suspension, the same cars that Perer Brock used in his BRE Team Racing those were the days....

[@aaronallen943]

Law, I’ve been a race fan for almost 47 years. I watch/listen to/read a LOT of race content from a variety of different mediums and sources. Now granted, this is only MY experience and opinion but brother, you are without a doubt the very best at what you do! You are the absolute tip of the spear when it comes to F1 content creation. One of the biggest things that has earned you my respect is the fact that you are so clear in your allegiance to McLaren and in your support of Piastri yet, you show zero bias in the way you deliver your content. You’re even keeled across the board and that is one of the most difficult aspects of producing content. Your content is fair and balanced and I appreciate that more than you know. Thanks Law, for all you do! Your hard work, dedication and passion is evident in your product. I appreciate you very much. Cheers, brother! 👊🏻

[@D3luan]

"AStroll Martin" more like "ASStroll Martin"

[@derosiflo6524]

10:50 Anime Lewis and Anime Oscar aren't real, they can't hurt you

[@vamptowngirl6922]

They're so cuteeee

[@commentorgeneral]

I just want to listen to you man! Keep it up!

[@bertanderson2548]

7:07 I'm pretty new to this sport, but I think the whole of F1 -- especially the drivers -- suffer from this, so I don't think McLaren deserves any more criticism than anyone else. But I do think they *all* deserve criticism in this regard. They should just get on with the racing.

[@danielnyangweso1759]

I think that Law really downplays Lando's race pace... These situations are there because Lando is a fast driver. I am happy that Piastri is closing the gap to Lando. And I do think we have 2 world champions in the team. But who would you favour if it were you. A driver already at his peak. Or a driver learning to be at the front

[@LawVS]

Good question. In an ideal world, you would adapt on the fly as to which driver is performing on the day.

[@Gopher31]

Was Oscar trying to get a head of Lando for the double stack?

[@doriswembe4941]

I think he was

[@connarcomstock161]

This year is a learning experience for McLaren. They will, eventually, get all these moving parts to work together and it'll be awesome. Or they won't and it'll be Orange Ferrari.

[@gwcrispi]

All Lando had to do was be as adamant (as Oscar was) about taking the mediums.

[@sethhill5689]

Some questions for thought: 1) Is McLaren actually learning from these mistakes? I mean, they are still afraid to take some risks. 2) You talk about MB going after Nico, what about putting him in Perez's seat? Would he be an upgrade? I think so.

[@Marbeary]

Does mclaren have an actual TP?? Zak Brown is evolving like Gunther and Gene fused together.

[@LawVS]

Yes. Andrea Stella. On an infrastructure level, he is doing a bang-up job. They just need to think like a top team when it comes to strategy.

[@aoife1122]

Lando wallowing in his own misery gets him DotD votes... all part of the plan. He's on track to become the goatiest driver of the day ever! 🤣

[@stephaniecampbell6119]

I used to really enjoy your channel but the bias is getting too much. I’m a McLaren fan and cheer for both drivers but this narrative you seem intent on going on is putting me right off. I will preface my comments by saying I agree McLaren strategy was all wrong this weekend but a few points concerning this video. 1. Using Horner to make your point. Just ewww as a guy for all he’s been accused of and of course he’s going to make a dig at the closest challengers. 2. Go back and listen to Oscar’s radio in the lead up to the swap for inters. He says it’s nearly time but when pit wall query he himself says they should stay out as long as they can. Oscar is not infallible in all this. I agree there are laps where Oscar was faster in the wet but not to the same extent as Lewis over George. Oscar had the benefit of following Lando and seeing where the new braking zones were. Commentary were at pains to say the first driver on the road is at a much bigger disadvantage. 3. Using the overall race pace graphic is a fallacy. This graphic is skewed by the final stint of both drivers on different tyres. Which I may add you demonstrated by explaining the final stint was 7 tenths faster for Oscar which then wipes the deficit from before which accounts for the 1 tenth overall. He’s only on average quicker due to that final stint of 7 tenths a lap. I don’t understand how you don’t see the maths in that. 4. Insinuating Lando would purposefully crash with Oscar. I’m sorry stop calling yourself a McLaren fan. You have used stats to suit your narrative. Like I said before your bias is reaching so much. Data is only as good as the person interpreting it. Without the mistakes in strategy from the pit wall, it was a 1-2 with Lando leading. There simply wasn’t going to be a scenario like you described of team orders. As a McLaren fan you’ve really put me off and I don’t think I can keep watching which is a shame.

[@brandonhollis9882]

Thank you Stephanie! This sums up EXACTLY my feelings that I couldn't communicate as organized and thoughtfully as you have done here. Well said.

[@stephaniecampbell6119]

More than welcome Brandon! I’m not normally one to comment on KZbin videos but I couldn’t let this go.

[@Hallreaver]

I saw a video with the radios and lando was asked about both the soft and mediums and if he wanted to cover Hamilton or Verstappen. Lando then said he wanted to cover Hamilton but at the end he also said mediums would be fine and the Engineer said softs :P The issue certainly is that communication and reading their own data, if they saw the mediums were the best and fastest, that is what they should have gone with.

[@htpr_ice2360]

Yeahh about that dilemma you were talking about....

[@BotsWeekendCovers]

Did McLaren forget how to take a chance because they really are getting WAY to clinical? I guess this is where they will stay for awhile now until someone grows so balls in that team.

[@lekni8633]

Can just picture Marko going through the old roledex for webbers number right now 😂

[@gabrielplattes6253]

You need a tiny, tiny fridge in there. 😄

[@MrDonutSprinkles]

What kind of irks me is that it was pretty clear from the get go that Oscar was the quicker car that day. He was able to not only follow Lando through the Mercedes pair but then also close the gap to Lando himself. And thinking back to Monza and Hungary 2023, Mclaren pitted Lando first because he was 'supposedly' quicker than Oscar, thereby undercutting Oscar to come in front. It truly baffles me then, in this instance, why they didn't even consider pitting Oscar, or even Lando first, thus staggering the pitstops and avoiding the whole double stack dilemma itself. To me it seems that their strategy is focused on optimizing one driver, rather than trying to get the best for both drivers. As you mentioned in Jeddah, they also messed up Lando's strategy while Oscar, who was ahead, did not have his race compromised. If McLaren want to win any championship, they need to figure out how to handle two drivers who are able to fight at the front. Otherwise, expect friction, frustration, and contempt to happen - not only within the drivers but with the public as well, because what happened to Oscar at Silverstone was unacceptable and frankly embarrassing for a front-running team.

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also who are worst 2022 Ferrari or McLaren 2024 with their decision making?

[@ShuntedMate]

Soz, but Lando didn’t get past Ricciardo in Monza 21 because they gave him the hurry up and Lando couldn’t keep up. DR got the fastest lap on the final lap. He had pace in hand.

[@lxgxndxry24]

If you watch overhead for lando's 2nd stop youd see the ferrari mechanic flails in and out where lando was fully focused on turning and lost concentration. A driver should never be distracted from another teams pit crew. Ferrari deserve a fine. If the guy had continued running lando wouldve hit him.

[@user-ss7xs9jx5n]

Well said...

[@bossfight6125]

Their first mistake was not double stacking.

[@David-wj3tg]

It's a good thing we lost. "Otherwise we'd have been so angry we won." Says Mclaren. "We will cross that bridge when we get there" says 6 other teams and 1/2 of red bull.

[@5150TJT]

Did you watch lap 23 😂😂😂 yes Lando did go off..

[@AndrewinAus]

McLaren dodged a bullet screwing up the strategy because the last thing they need is a 'Multi-21' situation arising with their drivers (couldn't resist since you brought up Webber). Time will tell if they can continue with that, or will a situation of their own making arise that isn't so easily avoided.

[@ras_732]

I don't consider Piastri robotic, he's still a fun character during PR stints and when you're inside the car even doing post-race debriefs, professionalism is key and you are paid to showcase your professionalism. I'd rather having someone doing their job, than being a complete clown and underperforming.

[@rickybuhl3176]

Not being the number one driver can give the lad [Oscar] some space to fulfil his potential - use his energy on moving forwards and maintain focus. Pick the right fights instead of just swinging whenever he's presented the opportunity. +1 on the distain for the F1 equivalent of Footballers asking for yellow cards, every time someone has their practise lap slightly interfered with..

[@smokinggun4729]

Ever since I started watching f1 and properly following the sport I always thought Hulkenberg was a great driver but he never had the car to deliver the results that I still believe he's capable of

[@DavidJohnson-dc8lu]

People forgetting McLaren used to do this with Lewis on and off the tracks.

[@Dani-it5sy]

You can clearly see the masterclass of a Verstappen or Hamilton and their teams now. You need to be so spot on in every detail. They need a 2 sec stop? They get a 1.8sec one. Not a 4.5sec which is not even a slow stop but a failed stop. Verstappen would have gotten a 1.8 sec stop and he would have come side by side and with his fighting skills he would have taken him. That's how you become a champion. Keep practicing guys. I really want a good fight at the front. But you need to do better for us to get that.

[@VulgrDisplay]

I wish that race was 3 laps longer just to see the absolute melt down from the British fans and Media if Verstappen had taken p1.

[@edavidbruce]

Just like Russia, the team not Asserting what they know cost lando a win

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

" Read the room or the track or the sky " 😅😅

[@lewiskemp5893]

Oscar is doing very well and no one is screaming about it. I do like Lando too. I'm glad to see McLaren back where they belong

[@BlackxLight]

This isn't the first time Macdonalds have sacrificed Oscar who would have finished ahead of Lando by screwing him in the pitstops. If you recall, the last time, Oscar actually said something like, 'great', or 'awaesome' ironically when he came out miles behind lando so obviously engineered by ZAC. If I was Oscar, I'd be going for a Redbul ASAP and beat Lando and be allowed to.

[@lloydstuartpietersen2448]

Spot on

[@Jigds]

Lando is a top class racer but prone to make blunders in taking correct decisions. He should not have signed a mega-multi-year contract at McLaren. He would have been lapped up by other top tier teams like Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes and by now would have won so many more GPs than just 1 in his name. P.S. McLaren can/must replace his race enginer.

[@andrewntoth1]

Norris wasn't faster in monza that 1 time Ricciardo was good at mclaren , it was an attempt at getting the win , Ric was driving to a number hence setting the fastest lap on the final lap . Piastri needs to qualify in front of norris if he wants to shine ... I dare say the 2025 championship may not be norris vs verstappen at all , it could very well be piastri vs verstappen . On the note of red bull chasing piastri , it possibly would be a good move if the rumours of verstappen leaving were true!!

[@peroperic467]

what does it say on first pices on left board (for patreons) the extra long oneđ

[@BrenGillan]

Hey i don't know if you saw the rumors and people talking about the apparent Perez contract clause where he could lose his seat and how that could help Sainz just thought it was interesting

[@LawVS]

I have and that will be on the docket this week.

[@BrenGillan]

@LawVS i will say as a tsunoda fan i hope he somehow gets to the main team i know it wont happen but it would be cool

[@NexuJin]

@@LawVS Redbull changing drivers mid season? Traditions 🍻

[@neoamaru]

Screw McLaren for the moment, they're doing great despite everything, we need to talk about Ferrari's abysmal performance!

[@King_Ears]

Once oscar gets to grips with tyre management he'll outrace lando consistently

[@LawVS]

I think he did that at this race.

[@haribo836]

If you look at the race data, Russell got double stacked, Piastri went on for a lap. If you take Russell's double stack and his outlap and impose that over that one extra lap of Piastri on slicks, with the rest of Piastri's laps being the same, he would've won by about 5 secs. It was a McLaren strategic fail, if they would've followed Max with the first car and then the next the lap after, I think it could've been a 1-2 even.

[@brandonhollis9882]

Ok, then change Lando’s times to be the medium tire times Oscar was running instead of having the wrong soft tires and Lando wins.

[@haribo836]

@@brandonhollis9882 Strategy on Norris wasn't ideal either, Verstappen and Sainz were probably the only ones doing it right. But Oscar really got the bad end of it with McLaren already being a lap late and then not stacking them. But you're right I think that if Lando went for mediums or even the hards, he would've had a chance to make up the time he lost by overshooting his pitbox.

[@DashedSimpusMaximus]

Funny that verstappen might have won this if there were more laps, but all that matters are the results.

[@sagradasinfamilia]

Ya boy thought about the situation, and he thought "It is, what it is"

[@CarimboHanky]

multi 21 is brewing!

[@David76571]

1:06 "a short view back to the past" ha... i see what you did there