McLeod trade could be beginning of the end for Peyton Krebs

The Sabres swung a trade for center Ryan McLeod on Friday, which will have a big impact on the Sabres depth chart. This is very true for Peyton Krebs, who Sneaky Joe believes could now be on the way out of Buffalo at the next opportunity.
What will Krebs' role be if still in Buffalo? How much could Kevyn Adams get for him in a trade? Joe also has a specific trade idea that could happen with Krebs going to the Flyers.
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[@captainahab4325]

I would allow Ruff a chance to revive Krebs. There is definitely some talent there but there is something missing and maybe Lindy can get it out Peyton.

[@HALFDEADHERMAN]

66PTS in 215 NHL games thus far for Krebs. He's a 0.30697674418 PPG PLAYER and not worth a roster spot on a team that wants to make a playoff push.

[@captainahab4325]

@@HALFDEADHERMAN I hear that. But I'm believing there has to be more for Krebs. I think he might do well under a more structured coach. I think Granato preached "let them figure it out" but Ruff will both demand more from Krebs and he will give Krebs a direction or rather a role to fill.

[@HALFDEADHERMAN]

​@@captainahab4325GMKA seems to agree with you based on his media responses. I just don't see how a player with Krebs numbers fits on a team looking to make a push towards the playoffs. The time for development was under Granato and Krebs simply failed to develop. IMO GMKA needs to move on from him now and get something in return, before an asset with depreciating value, walks in the offseason, for nothing. I'd trade Ryan Johnson, Peyton Krebs and a 2nd to bring in a guy with Joel Farabee's upside and not think twice about the cost. In his 24YO year he tallied 50PTS. Is Krebs going to tally half of that playing 4th line minutes in his 24YO year. I don't think Krebs would tally near 50PTS playing alongside Cozens and Quinn. I've seen enough of this fringe NHL'er and find the value Farabee adds to a team; desperate to boost goal totals from last season, is exactly what this TOP 6 needs infused into the lineup.

[@Salty_Kashew]

Please don't give up on Ryan Johnson

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

This fan base never wants to move on from players until it’s too late. We need to not fall in love with players.

[@shanedomanick6344]

No room and he’s not as good as we think cmon this fanbase cums for this man…he’s OKAY at best thank you

[@user-dz1st8cv7p]

Ryan Johnson will be a consistent D. I would like him on the bottom pairing.

[@scottlaboch4534]

Sabres need to bring him up to team, not keeping him in Rochester. Trade Joki & add Johnson

[@meatazzsandwich]

I'll take Ryan Johnson anyday over soft Power

[@dnk4566]

Love what rhey have done.. added toughness and speed. We will be very hard to olay against. Would be nice to add a Physical D man and still a top 6 forward. If we cant get that top 6 forward in a trade i can live with it for now.

[@WideTier]

Oh you want another “top 6 forward?” How about trading for veteran Ryan O’Reilly? He’s still scoring 25 - 30 goals per year and was the Conn Smythe winner with the Blues when they won the Cup. Or make a blockbuster trade for another Stanley Cup winner, Jack Eichel? Or yet another Stanley Cup winner, Sam Reinhart, 57 goal scorer last season with Florida? Adams could trade a couple young kids for Colorado’s second line center Casey Middlestadt. If he’s good enough to be recent Stanley Cup winning Avalanche’s 2nd line center her should fit in at worst on the Sabres 2nd line, too, right? Evander Kane could play anywhere in the top 6, Adams could swing a trade for him. There’s all kinds of talented scoring top 6 players scattered around the NHL, aren’t there?

[@dnk4566]

@@WideTier no shit. Bitch and complain. Nothing I can do about what they've done or the past. Just hope for the future.

[@user-gg1gb8pr9djrkscbsnotabot]

Physical dman yes. Top 6 forward, cya reply above^

[@meatazzsandwich]

​@@WideTierZERO chance of O'Reilly ever coming back to Buffalo

[@bretthaller2096]

Please do a future show on defensive pairings for 2024 -25 and I'm really confused about our goalie situation. UPK or Levi the future 1 tender between the pipes ?!?! Also who might stick around with us to develop and make the club and be around long term (if anyone) ? Scott Ratz, Topias and or Ryerson Lionoen

[@privateer236]

So did we give Krebbs the Tage Thompson or Casey Middlestat progression timeline or we just giving up on a guy that Granato dropped the ball on?

[@neilkennington2397]

I agree with your/listeners 4 lines and thats how i hope the Sabres will start the season . Greenway is a good PK and he will definitely be asked to be more physical under Ruff. Hes in a contract year so it might be best to keep him at least until the trade deadline . Agreed Krebs will be a spare forward unless hes traded and sorry i cant see a Philly taking Krebs and Jokiharju for Farabee because they are looking to dump salary as they are over the cap .

[@AAA-o4g]

Greenway should be in front of the net on the PP

[@robertbrown8900]

Greenway may be slow but not all goals are scored off the rush. At some point, the cycle game has to come into play. Greeny has a big body so he can shield the puck on the walls. He was also an effective penalty killer last season - he can find a place in this lineup despite all of the new editions.

[@meatazzsandwich]

Greenway was HUGE last year on the PK. Trade Krebs 100%

[@archbuff6289]

Krebs sounds a lot like Mittlestadt three-four years ago. It will take him a little bit longer to find his legs. No reason to put the pressure of the Eichel trade on him. No reason to give up on him for a months' worth of 3rd line center duty. No first round draft pick gets the "18 games...that was his chance...and he blew it" assessment. Just give it a little rest, Joe, with the over the top language. I think he's quite competitive and he'll look at these new guys coming in and will work harder...that's the psychology of sports.

[@AAA-o4g]

I don't see it in krebs, maybe Vegas did too in letting him go. Do any of the Rochester players have the grit we need when they come up ?

[@jamesmiller6217]

No, unfortunately. That’s one of my criticisms of the drafting/ development of the Adams era.

[@meatazzsandwich]

I don't see it in Krebs either. Undersized. Weak shot

[@evanrichter3893]

Love the Joel idea

[@centralhockey12]

1 idea I had for a Krebs swap (in the future) would be the Seattle Kraken. I do see Yanni Gourde and Brandon Tanev are 2 guys expiring after the season….just an idea there. Some sort of Krebs for Gourde swap would allow them to develop Wright in a top 9 role after they just signed Stephenson….Gourde can play both center and wing. Krebs would likely continue to just be a bottom 6 fwd in Seattle though so I think Buffalo would add a tad more…good buy low options out of Seattle. Acquire a Gourde/Tanev and just stay patient with Benson becoming a top 6 fwd. Gourde/Tanev would be quality top 9 place holders for a couple of seasons.

[@centralhockey12]

Foerster-Couturier-Konecny Tippett-Frost-(Michkov?) Farabee-Laughton-Brink Cates-Poehling-Hathaway That’s the projected lineup according to Daily Faceoff. The flyers probably know they’re no cup favorites, let’s be honest. They probably out performed expectations. Unless they REALLY just want to tank, then I don’t see them accepting that Krebs trade proposal of yours. Despite playing 16 mins of time on ice, he finished 3rd on the team in scoring. His time probably jumps right back up to 17 mins a night next season. What if Michkov isn’t quite ready? Then he probably gets that 2nd line spot. He’s gonna get pretty decent PP time too. My point is- I don’t think they see Krebs as any must get because you’re not getting any sort of upgrade if you’re Philly. Krebs probably finds himself in a similar role with less offensive ability proven. And especially- Henri Jokiharju is not any real upgrade compared to what they have. You have a decent idea, but the fit isn’t quite there yet. Philly probably continues to hold onto Farabee for now because he has a pretty good role on the team already. Especially if Michkov has his rookie struggles.

[@centralhockey12]

And as for the defense York-Sanheim Seeler- Drysdale Zamula-Risto Attard, E.Johnson Helge Grans, Andrae, Bonk on the way… They have 8 dmen who are NHLers, how good those 8 dmen are is a different question but Jokiharju doesn’t move any needle there Check back with a Farabee idea next offseason, I don’t think it’s there now even though the fit seems perfect for Buffalo

[@mortal_gaming89]

For a while I thought we would be shopping for a top 6 forward, but now I think they may keep Peterka there, move Benson to 2nd line and use the signings/trades to fill in the rest. They could keep Krebs (unless there is a deal you can't pass up) as his QO was just under $900k. So its not much to remove. Sign him on a single year unless he can do 3 years at just under 1mil (so he can be traded off with a contract) if he cannot improve in this year.

[@jamesmiller6217]

I’m sure they tried to score a top 6 winger, but no one wants to come to Buffalo. Peterka is a strength on the 2nd line, but a weakness on the top line.

[@pistolpete7422]

Krebs will be the spare forward, he’s only 23 with limited top 6 experience. You don’t give up on that until the new coach gets his hands on Krebs at practice

[@jamesmiller6217]

Talking about Giving up on guys like Krebs and Greenway makes me revisit the Eichel trade. Tuch is fantastic, but other than that it doesn’t look too good right now. I never liked Krebs.

[@TheDarthmalstrom]

@jamesmiller6217 talking about giving up on guys there was a guy who really didn't get a chance on the Sabres and was traded for scrap, his name is Matt Savoie. Pretty funny how that works.

[@jamesmiller6217]

@@TheDarthmalstrom amen brother. Worst move of the Adams era. Shockingly bad trade.

[@b3rto574]

What about Jack Quinn?

Kevyn Adam’s about to trade half the team, 14 picks, and 7 prospects for Joel Farabee. 🤣

[@pUPPyLyPsE33]

I think Krebs will hang on. Ruff will like him. Krebs has been used predominantly as a checker in Buffalo.

[@AurorJeffrey]

Farabee isn’t that good, but the contract would be good value.

[@ravensshadow2179]

I don't think Adam's would admit he made a mistake in the Eichel trade if he trades Krebs. I think it would be the nail in his coffin especially if they trade him and he takes off.

[@HALFDEADHERMAN]

In what world does Krebs turn into a quality NHL'er!? 215 games and only 66 points. NEXT!!!!

[@edwardcarier1789]

I am putting McLeod my 2nd line center. With Cozens & Quinn or Tuch and move Quinn up with Thompson. Not wasting all his speed and face off winning % to play with Benson & Greenway. Plus Cozens played much better on the wing during the IIHF tournament. This team has to be ready to win game 1.

[@TheDarthmalstrom]

@edwardcarier1789 lol oh you're setting yourself up for major disappointment lol McCleod is fast but that's all he has, all speed and no finish. He won't hit, he won't fight, he won't go into the boards or battle for the puck, he can't be a setup man, and he really can't score goals. But he is fast, and wins faceoffs and is good on the PK and wants his shift to end as soon as he's on the ice.

[@edwardcarier1789]

@@TheDarthmalstrom We will see. I think it is more important to have Cozens on the wing. So GMKA better go find a 2nd line center.

[@khuffy1737]

Sam Lafferty Is a Sabre

[@KetoFitChef]

Krebs and Greenway for a middle 6 winger and 2nd round pick (maybe a 3rd round).

[@danevertt3210]

That would be perfect but it won’t be enough

[@KetoFitChef]

@@danevertt3210 depends really. There are a LOT of teams up against the salary cap. If a team has to fill a roster spot, but are against the cap, two players making $5,000,000 combined, may make that $5-$6,000,000 middle 6 winger expendable.

[@HALFDEADHERMAN]

Joel Farabee isn't a Torts guy!? Torts benched him for nearly an entire game against NJ last December because he "doesn't listen". That's why he's rumored to be on the trade market. Despite that fact, he's an ideal Top 6 target who checks the "wants to be here" box. He's a 50pt contributor and proven NHL'er with 300+ games played. If he's paired with the right skill players, he could potentially tally 60-70 PTS. He turned 24 in February and is signed thru 2027 for a $5M cap hit. Adams should unload Krebs along with whatever spare parts from Rochester necessary to make a deal for a former 14th overall pick. Then Lindy Ruff can work on getting thru to a player who tallies 50pts and "doesn't listen."

[@SeaJayAudit]

Exactly. Once you are in Torts' doghouse...often times you are there for a long, long time.

[@HALFDEADHERMAN]

If he believes a player needs to sit out or a player needs to get benched in a game, minutes come down, no matter who that player is, he holds everyone accountable on the same level. I'm looking forward to Lindy Ruff getting the most out of this roster utilizing the same approach.

[@michaeldalsky1209]

Thompson had size

[@elmo6620]

Should have seen what lindy would have done with him before the savour trade

[@fnshouse632]

We need good Def players!

[@itsrickus3582]

Yeah, if Greenway already looked slow with last years lineup, this year is going to be brutal.

[@darcyseguin8396]

Trade Krebs to islanders

[@ZeusWango]

He would benefit going down to regain his scoring

[@scottlaboch4534]

Trade... To Ducks: Krebs, Greenway, & 2025 draft pick To Sabres: Zegras & 2025 draft pick

[@danevertt3210]

Ya gotta be kidding, right?

[@thehigsy]

​@@danevertt3210yugh, exactly

[@Bur6212]

Gonna take a hell of a lot more than that to get Zegras… this isn’t NHL 24 on easy mode

[@Sabres1970]

Krebs , Joker for Joel nada more nada less. Joker is ufa next . He leave for nada.

[@elmo6620]

1 more year under lindy

[@codyge18]

Greenway can sit, hes to slow, sorry to say. They have grit now

[@gilles11dupuis]

Trade Samuelson

[@Bur6212]

Agreed. He can’t stay healthy

[@michaeldalsky1209]

Trade Krebs back to Vegas

[@BlackIjs]

Krebs is a goner.

[@elmo6620]

Savour trade pisses me off just as much as the Jeff Skinner contract signing

[@mikemayhem39]

I thought The eichel trade was terrible when it happened and it still is, we got back a top 6 guy who’s injury prone and a crappy prospect who was never valuable imo

[@danevertt3210]

And Kulich

[@TheDarthmalstrom]

Savoie in Edmonton will be elite whereas McCleod will make fans regret the trade. He's trash compared to Savoie

[@danevertt3210]

Yeppers…….awful trade

[@pUPPyLyPsE33]

They have at least 3 prospects including Kulich that can do anything Savoie might do in near future

[@danevertt3210]

@@pUPPyLyPsE33 that doesn’t mean you trade away top tier prospects for nothing

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

EAHL player here. As a vet, I can tell you that this team doesn’t have it Sneaky J.

[@skeenybarbar]

Krebs will be fine!

[@meatazzsandwich]

He's never been fine. He does nothing well

[@heartoftexas8092]

So many cry babies in Buffalo. happy I moved to the free state of Texas.

[@danevertt3210]

Hey I just moved to Texas too!!!! Texas sucks balls

[@heartoftexas8092]

@@danevertt3210 You must too.

[@danevertt3210]

@@heartoftexas8092 you don’t even know me…….dont do that “internet tough guy” crap.

[@heartoftexas8092]

@@danevertt3210 You are the one talking about sucking balls Internet tough guy.

[@markmangano7005]

We are gonna be horrible.

[@mikemayhem39]

What did you expect our core were trying to win with is Thompson cozens tuch Quinn peterka and they can’t even make it to the playoffs

[@Free2b56]

If anyone in the Sabres organization still has a shred of interest in winning this offseason should be the start of the demise of Adams' GM career. Not that he has actually had a career. More like "cashing a paycheck".