MCOC: Act 9.1.5 - Path 03 - The Scourge Path - Venom vs Shocker - 2024

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@MCOCNOOB
@MCOCNOOB 3 ай бұрын
Hey Guys, todays video is going to Act 9.1.5 - Path 03 - The Scourge Path - Venom vs Shocker - 2024 00:00 Plan for Path 01:26 The Champion 03:36 Storm 05:06 Heimdall 07:19 Howard TD 08:56 Red Skull 11:32 Nova 14:00 Shocker (BOSS) Thanks for tuning in guys. The focus will always be an easy guide with the least amount of units. If you enjoy the video and you found it helpful, consider buying me a coffee PayPal: bit.ly/MCOCNOOB Channel Membership: bit.ly/mcocnoobmemberships Streamlabs: streamlabs.com/mcocnoob Merch Store: mcocnoob.shop/
@God_emperor_Doom
@God_emperor_Doom 3 ай бұрын
Some people here are saying venom cheese ain't working?? Is it true ?
@MCOCNOOB
@MCOCNOOB 3 ай бұрын
@@God_emperor_Doom working mate, just used it
@God_emperor_Doom
@God_emperor_Doom 3 ай бұрын
@@MCOCNOOB I will try that after I get energy refills, anyways those scourge paths are really annoying
@God_emperor_Doom
@God_emperor_Doom 3 ай бұрын
@@MCOCNOOB I got a 7* Prowler from the titan, is he any good ???
@scdioat
@scdioat 3 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how many revives this path would have cost me without this video. Thank you sir
@jzhou2460
@jzhou2460 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for what you did for the Mcoc community mate. I fully explored 9.1 today, opened count nefaria. So happy🎉😂
@stevenroloff2067
@stevenroloff2067 21 күн бұрын
Shocker cheese still works on 12-4-24. Used OG Hulk. He woke up at 8% but didn’t matter at that point.
@Sousaalb
@Sousaalb 3 ай бұрын
The Shocker cheese is still working right now. I also used Venom, but it didn't work the first time, I had to try it a second time. I don't think I did anything wrong, but there seems to be an issue where it doesn't always execute the cheese strategy correctly. I think sometimes this cheese "cycle" isn't able to start. Thanks for your work.
@Don_badshah_075
@Don_badshah_075 2 ай бұрын
So when and how its work
@Probs015
@Probs015 14 күн бұрын
@@Don_badshah_075it doesn’t
@sparkzynr5543
@sparkzynr5543 11 күн бұрын
@@Probs015true
@momoj786
@momoj786 5 күн бұрын
Ye he goes unstoppable and sp3s
@Thunderbolt440
@Thunderbolt440 3 ай бұрын
I dont know why u missed it my guy, but doctor doom is prob the best choice, just doom cycle, prob just cgr for red skull, the rest easy doom cycled
@joshbailey0918
@joshbailey0918 3 ай бұрын
Confirming doom works very well! Thanks for the heads up
@joshbailey0918
@joshbailey0918 3 ай бұрын
Doom soloed the whole path except red skull
@bobeardington4044
@bobeardington4044 3 ай бұрын
@@joshbailey0918does the boss cheese still work?
@mudassarhussain1819
@mudassarhussain1819 3 ай бұрын
he is been ignoring doom lately :P many fight where i used doom easy ..maybe he is just showcasing different options also 7* get bonus damage
@realbigbri
@realbigbri 3 ай бұрын
I'm 5th-ing the Doom recommendation. The Champion took out two of mine, restarted with Doom and he handled him quite well.
@casanova2929
@casanova2929 Ай бұрын
Shocker cheese still works guys. I had venom ready but went in with my 6* rank 4 ascended hulk and heavy spam him around 180 hits. ( November 19th 2024)
@K-A-R-N-A
@K-A-R-N-A 3 ай бұрын
Woke up saw the video..... Opened the Game And done! 👍 Thank you...I was expecting 2 videos a day lol 😅
@BGNewsReporter
@BGNewsReporter 3 ай бұрын
Sept 24th (23rd in US) the heavy spam still works on Shocker. I had Venom ready to go but thought I'd try Hulk first (7*) and he soloed the fight. I had a 7* with 6* relic, not sure if that counts for anything. Update: Tried it again with my alt account, this time using Venom. Took 4 attempts. First 3 attempts he countered immediately. This was using a 5* Venom with a 5* relic. 4th attempt it worked - took 110 heavies!
@infektedshroom4013
@infektedshroom4013 3 ай бұрын
I tried juggs, venom and KP and all 3 failed the cheese. Relic in the corner to heavy, took one hit then blasted me with sp2. :(
@aryansinha6127
@aryansinha6127 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout buddy🥰😊😊 it's a pleasure for me✌🏻
@madgenius3258
@madgenius3258 Ай бұрын
Shocker cheese still working with 7* r2 OG Hulk as of 10/31. He broke out of it around 9pct and I ate an sp3 but was able to use striker to get him back into the pattern and finish him off.
@stayfrosty6698
@stayfrosty6698 2 ай бұрын
Shathra and kushala were very good for this, shathra’a buff duration reduction makes it so the unstoppable and evades aren’t too much of a problem, plus holding heavy attacks to steal power for a refresh, and kushala’s soul barb works on almost every champion since they get a lot of buffs
@joekyojin
@joekyojin Ай бұрын
Nov 1st 2024 update: Can confirm the shocker heavy cheese still works but just be careful sometimes shocker can get knocked down and messes u up. But it still works nonetheless.
@Willybonez
@Willybonez 2 ай бұрын
Took 122 heavy attacks with a r2 Juggs. But, I can confirm as of 9/30/2024 at 11:17pm EST this cheese does, in fact, still work. Thanks for the tips Noobman.
@ajs8779
@ajs8779 2 ай бұрын
10/7 9:45a CST cheese still worked... mostly. Used r2 Hulk - was 117 hits in and for some reason at about 17% health Shocker woke up and hit an sp3. Thankfully didn't end the fight and got right back to it. Was a solo all in all.
@royal_irafikii3620
@royal_irafikii3620 2 ай бұрын
As of 10/8 cheese method still works however I used a hulk with no striker and started fight with heavy attacks only to push him to the wall and he stayed asleep. Took 400 hits and 8 min but cheese functioned well and shocker only woke up around 18% to hit me twice and fell back asleep (hulk was 6* R4).
@asanzsoccer
@asanzsoccer Ай бұрын
Nov 2 cheese still works. I didn’t use revives. Sometimes he gets you but for the most part it does repeat and you just have to hope he doesn’t counter your heavy.
@forthebirds4
@forthebirds4 3 ай бұрын
Cheese is still working, I just did it. Didn't work the first attempt but I worked back up to my striker and cornered him again and that time it worked. At one point he unfroze and got knocked down but luckily didn't attack, just throw as quick as possible.
@MattWillie
@MattWillie 24 күн бұрын
As of Dec 1st '24, cheese is still working. Used OG Hulk. Shocker snapped out of it at 30% but was able to still get the 1 shot.
@Pluralizes_everythings.
@Pluralizes_everythings. 10 күн бұрын
Nope
@zolosatiy
@zolosatiy 2 ай бұрын
Heavy spam pn shocker is working 6 oct. Hulk stunned him for 120+ hits till 15% then he broke free, perhaps assassin kicked in and messed things up. Finished with KP
@kevinnarvaez7032
@kevinnarvaez7032 2 ай бұрын
october 23 it does not work anymore
@jonathansantiago5227
@jonathansantiago5227 3 ай бұрын
Captain Marvel also works as a cheese option for shocker as she has 1 shot heavy attack and class advantage as bonus
@donkeypow593
@donkeypow593 3 ай бұрын
I did the same shocker cheese with Kingpin 😁👍
@Iotatym
@Iotatym 3 ай бұрын
Can confirm as of today 09/24 that the cheese still works. I used Captain Marvel Movie tho. The path was annoying but glad to have some cheese at the end
@arock_007
@arock_007 3 ай бұрын
Sept25 (IST) - cheese still works, tried with hulk. Ended up getting 5 hit combo in the face since i mistimed the heavy in the middle but quickly recovered since he's not very aggressive once the cheese starts. 10/10 cheese would still recommend.
@hivan9535
@hivan9535 2 ай бұрын
UPDATE: 15.Oct. Cheese still works had no problems with a rank 2 juggs (140 ish hits)
@KyleA1331
@KyleA1331 2 ай бұрын
I just did this boss with the science path so i had 5 champs going in and i brute forced it. Even without cheese, it's really easy.
@stewartnewson4733
@stewartnewson4733 3 ай бұрын
Doom took every fight execute red skull who went down easily with cgr. 6 star relic on doom makes it easy to chain back to back sp3’s. The whole path just melted. Venom cheese still working on shocker also, 23rd sept
@TurtleFlakes
@TurtleFlakes Ай бұрын
Thanks man! Can confirm that the cheese still works perfectly, took my r2 Venom 120 heavies but he didn’t try to attack even once
@TKFLam3
@TKFLam3 Ай бұрын
Not working for me
@TKFLam3
@TKFLam3 28 күн бұрын
It worked but only for a couple heavies. Revived like 3 times
@Very_non_handsome_fella
@Very_non_handsome_fella 3 ай бұрын
Shocker heavy spam cheese is still working, atleast it worked for me. Used r3 Hulk it worked fine until 8% health left then he threw SP3 all of sudden.
@nextgenkilla7645
@nextgenkilla7645 3 ай бұрын
Has not worked at all for me, as soon as i heavy he throws a special. this was like 5 mins ago so idk if they patched it since you did it
@Very_non_handsome_fella
@Very_non_handsome_fella 3 ай бұрын
@@nextgenkilla7645 could be. Lucky me ☺️
@mudassarhussain1819
@mudassarhussain1819 3 ай бұрын
Guys just to confirm the method is working, can't call it glitch or bug as it is in his node he goes to sleep for .3 seconds. I tried with venom didn't work but then went with og hulk and he was cornered and I heavy spam
@nate478
@nate478 3 ай бұрын
Thorse, chee, and abs are also great for this path
@themachine8142
@themachine8142 Ай бұрын
11/5 Shocker cheese still works. First tried with venom and it didn’t but then went in with hulk and heavied him to death
@laurie3787
@laurie3787 3 ай бұрын
Cheese still works. Just used it with hulk. A few combos into the wall (didn’t bait his specials or anything) then just hit striker into heavy spam for about 80 odd hits. Thanks mcoc noob!
@NathanTucker-n2l
@NathanTucker-n2l 2 ай бұрын
10/10/24 cheese is still working for the most part Even wasn’t the fastest on the heavies and still dropped him down to 8%
@W.bohemia
@W.bohemia Ай бұрын
Bro have you tried Abs Man?? I think this the best and fun path for Abs man, back to back Sps with Mys Des. literally the best one.
@StairwaySlammer
@StairwaySlammer 2 ай бұрын
For people still attempting or going to later on, I don't suggest trying the cheese method. It seems to be a glitch that must require certain specific conditions. I've tried 6 times with 4 different champs and no luck
@WDub963
@WDub963 2 ай бұрын
Same here just came back to the video after watching it last night then trying the fight now and after 3 tries I’ve come to realize one of two things are going on… either I’m an idiot or it just ain’t working lol nonetheless we will get on through.
@akashdutta9387
@akashdutta9387 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your tips...venom not working but gladiator workingà
@huiniklil
@huiniklil 2 ай бұрын
Venom cheese against shocker worked fine on 14th Oct. People who says it doesn’t just don’t know how to do it. :-)
@joey.3200
@joey.3200 3 ай бұрын
Just finished this path (Doom worked great here minus Red Skull who I took down with Kushula and her SP2/Soul Barb) and the Venom cheese worked for me. I was nervous it wouldn't work based on some recent comments, but it worked just as shown (as of Sept 19th @2:50 PM Central 😂).
@iRLYdonotcare
@iRLYdonotcare 21 күн бұрын
dec 4th, couldn't make the cheese work, tried venom, odin and kushala, don't know if it's me or if fixed.
@bufordtannen3516
@bufordtannen3516 3 ай бұрын
Absorbing man runs through this path
@sainkeable
@sainkeable Ай бұрын
Shocker cheese still works Though it took me almost 200 hits with rank 2 7* hulk
@TheMenttol
@TheMenttol 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. The cheese option still works. I used 7* og Hulk
@ReddMoneyHarleyQuinn
@ReddMoneyHarleyQuinn Ай бұрын
Cheese still works. Although he did randomly pop out of it at 12%
@baxter5754
@baxter5754 2 ай бұрын
Recommend using gladiator for shocker. Cheese still works
@1421solo
@1421solo 3 ай бұрын
Wish you a very happy Eid-e-milad brother! Thank you for these videos
@kobstar27
@kobstar27 Ай бұрын
For some reason cheese didn't work for me, ended up just CGRing the shocker fight
@arbaazmd5072
@arbaazmd5072 3 ай бұрын
this path literally made me cry
@Josephflash
@Josephflash 2 ай бұрын
Who can all cheese the boss? I have sersi, gamora and gorr? Will any of these cheese?
@vishaljr9683
@vishaljr9683 23 күн бұрын
i tried cheese method with juggs and it didn't work but it started working with adam but at last 11% hp on shocker it stopped and he ko me with his sp3 and after that i have to use 4 revive potion to take him down the hp pools and attack power in act 9 is really out of charts kabam should low attack power if they give defenders this much hp
@faiththroughfire7762
@faiththroughfire7762 3 ай бұрын
Also I did exactly what you did put shocker in the corner with venoms relic and the cheese didn’t work
@twoguntony9961
@twoguntony9961 2 ай бұрын
Almost normal fights with Abs Man. Anytime you see those unstoppables/unblockable nodes, abs man can be your guy
@amgking7243
@amgking7243 2 ай бұрын
But even if unstoppable goes away they will also evade, right?
@twoguntony9961
@twoguntony9961 2 ай бұрын
@@amgking7243 yes. you can either parry and heavy. Or parry twice and then attack. By the time the 2nd parry occurs, the evade icon will be close to its end and you can just combo like normal without evade occuring. My stun mastery is maxed i believe
@amgking7243
@amgking7243 2 ай бұрын
@@twoguntony9961 thanks will try. Love playing abs man
@blakejordan880
@blakejordan880 3 ай бұрын
Cheese still works however the first time it failed lol
@CaptainSuraraKYLL
@CaptainSuraraKYLL 3 ай бұрын
Best and safe is sorc supreme, she knocks everyone here with full health
@anghuihuang1984
@anghuihuang1984 3 ай бұрын
Doom doesn't need work for Storm. Claire and Jugs works better in this path. Red Skull don't use Venom. Use Kushala sp2 instead. And the continuous Heavy by Venom, I think the bug was fixed. I used Jug instead, but doesn't stun him continuously.
@ryandisher2774
@ryandisher2774 19 сағат бұрын
(12/24/2024) I tried the boss cheese with guilly 2099 and it did not work. He would instantly throw his specials every time
@Thunderbolt440
@Thunderbolt440 3 ай бұрын
Yeah striker is alr patched or something doesn't work, best options for shocker for me were gladiator, beta ray bill, and cgr
@prasundubey5539
@prasundubey5539 3 ай бұрын
Use serpant against shocker 😊
@Thunderbolt440
@Thunderbolt440 3 ай бұрын
@@prasundubey5539 damn that guy works for it?? Best option for me was beta ray bill, his ungrit buff helped for the knockdown and punish sp2
@Thunderbolt440
@Thunderbolt440 3 ай бұрын
@@prasundubey5539 i just finished it uo with cgr cause i messed up
@prasundubey5539
@prasundubey5539 3 ай бұрын
@@Thunderbolt440 yeah he is beast against him I used him so many times. This fight took around 3:34 mins and mine is just r4 ascended sig 20
@prasundubey5539
@prasundubey5539 3 ай бұрын
@@Thunderbolt440 yeah can also do that but fight will go lengthy.
@rsand2009
@rsand2009 3 ай бұрын
lol tried the cheese and i got hit in the face with an SP3
@rsand2009
@rsand2009 3 ай бұрын
nvm. tried it on round 2 and it worked
@freethinker9480
@freethinker9480 3 ай бұрын
Happened to me 5 times. Hasn't worked yet.
@gregamyx1819
@gregamyx1819 2 ай бұрын
Same doesn't work anymore. Followed every step and I get smacked
@doofinator4285
@doofinator4285 2 ай бұрын
@@gregamyx1819It worked flawlessly until the last 18% for me using CGR. I’m guessing it has a weird interaction with the assassin mastery.
@Someone-n7q
@Someone-n7q 2 ай бұрын
Did this today gambit stunlocked 2 defender and rest kushala and herc and boss fight I used gambit and the cheese works 427hits💀 my thumbs got cooked but atleast a solo.
@faiththroughfire7762
@faiththroughfire7762 3 ай бұрын
While I extremely appreciate these videos it would be awesome if you would point out the worst fights and the counters you NEED before you actually get into the fight like doing it at the beginning screen before you start
@Drunk_reaper-oh7ry
@Drunk_reaper-oh7ry 2 ай бұрын
Just letting everyone watching this know that I just got the cheese to work on Oct 8 2024 so it does still work at the time of posting this
@God_emperor_Doom
@God_emperor_Doom 3 ай бұрын
Longshot just vaporizes storm 😂 Trick is sp2 then back to back sp1s
@DanielCoto93
@DanielCoto93 2 ай бұрын
10/11, cheese still working for me
@blueasy5
@blueasy5 2 ай бұрын
That cheese is NO MORE working. But u can still use Herc or Venom to take him down, take time but quite easy
@jedijones
@jedijones 17 күн бұрын
Herc is the way to go. Went fast for me.
@mitrellid
@mitrellid 23 күн бұрын
12/1/2024. Shocker still works
@jacobsowe155
@jacobsowe155 19 күн бұрын
cheese worked with jugs
@orosztomi06
@orosztomi06 3 ай бұрын
I used doom and Cgr 😂😅 Just Shang chi as suport for more nuke because is one of my r3 7* out of 3 And rank 1 Gladiator 7* to get shocker more easier in corner with the intimidate
@dain5185
@dain5185 2 ай бұрын
did cgr work?
@orosztomi06
@orosztomi06 2 ай бұрын
@@dain5185 It’s a one hit heavy so maybe 😅
@soumyarupdas6100
@soumyarupdas6100 16 күн бұрын
Update 9th Dec 2024 - Cheese not working. Normal fight with R3 Adam Warlock. Took 71 secs to finish him
@el.mario_cuhh7889
@el.mario_cuhh7889 5 күн бұрын
Tried the cheese option didn’t work 2x with venom so decided to use my herc , didn’t read any nodes just play him normal only thing not to do is parry and knock him down bc of the unstoppable other then that just evade sp1 which is easiest or block sp2 should be a very easy fast fight
@marklimon4161
@marklimon4161 Күн бұрын
Herc, doom, Juggs, Wiccan and hulk Swapped in venom but couldn’t do the cheese. Herc did the job okay with one revive each
@sifumustache4982
@sifumustache4982 3 ай бұрын
cheese does not work. he immediately launches a special or punches
@harshalshetkar885
@harshalshetkar885 3 ай бұрын
The venom cheese doesn't seem to work
@MbanksW
@MbanksW 3 ай бұрын
Yea def does not they got a bug edit this video before costing tons a bunch of revives. Thank you for all your work NOOB
@MCOCNOOB
@MCOCNOOB 3 ай бұрын
Still working today - just tried it
@MbanksW
@MbanksW 3 ай бұрын
@@MCOCNOOB then it’s a user error on my end I assume. Have to heavy after he uses his special after the relic and I’m assuming my time must just be off. Again thanks for all you do.
@Spacelehe
@Spacelehe 3 ай бұрын
I used longshot. Melt the path pretty easy
@josephl317
@josephl317 Ай бұрын
as of the new update the shocker cheese does not work anymore
@iam_matthiasrobinsonsr
@iam_matthiasrobinsonsr 4 күн бұрын
Shocker cheese didn't work for me. But he was a good counter. For the path, any neutralize champ made it east to do, rintrah wiccan etc..
@allentweedie2627
@allentweedie2627 9 күн бұрын
The spam heavy after shocker does not work anymore....
@jedijones
@jedijones 17 күн бұрын
Nightmare path. I’ve explored the first 5 parts of Act 9 now and this was by far the worst. At least 15 revives to get through it. Don’t have Wiccan so I tried Juggernaut and it just didn’t work well. It did not nullify their unstoppable at all. Tried CGR, Hercules, Hyperion and Kushala. No one could solo most of these fights. To top it off, the Venom heavy attack trick didn’t work at all either. But Hercules took down Shocker easily, much more easily than all the path nodes were to defeat. I didn’t see the comments about using Doom. Guess I should have tried that.
@TuanTran-ch6rh
@TuanTran-ch6rh 3 ай бұрын
Doom cheese this
@datruth527
@datruth527 Ай бұрын
11-4 got to 9% left with venom and he wakes up and kills me
@rabiulhasan7728
@rabiulhasan7728 2 ай бұрын
Cheese doesn't work anymore. He comes out of it very quickly throwing specials.
@penga25
@penga25 2 ай бұрын
Got my bass kicked trying cheese.
@Don_badshah_075
@Don_badshah_075 2 ай бұрын
Man u also recommend gladiator but he,s not working 😢 I am stuck
@mKG9106
@mKG9106 2 ай бұрын
shocker cheese still works
@1Parkwa
@1Parkwa 3 ай бұрын
Cheese on boss definitely doesn't work now. Edit: worked on the 3rd try, until Shocker was at 6% and then he shook out of it and killed me
@Snipez723
@Snipez723 3 ай бұрын
I tried stun lock twice with my 6* venom but it’s not working
@Thezeus1-n1x
@Thezeus1-n1x 3 ай бұрын
Cheese didnt work for me, I got him down with Venom regardless
@mufc1417
@mufc1417 2 ай бұрын
The cheese isn't working anymore, I just herc him.
@ahmadbinqasim68
@ahmadbinqasim68 2 ай бұрын
i tried with og hulk today on 21st oct n it didnt work but idk maybe i couldnt do it properly,, i had hulking on my team n he 1 shot him anyways so try him if anyone wants to do fight properly
@rickyburns2284
@rickyburns2284 2 ай бұрын
Can confirm chesse works just used juggs 10/7/24. Plus long time fan great videos
@DevilGJG
@DevilGJG Ай бұрын
21/nov/24 still working with venom
@shark1969
@shark1969 3 ай бұрын
It doesn’t work anymore the Venom cheese
@jonathanramirez9727
@jonathanramirez9727 3 күн бұрын
Shocker cheese does not work anymore lol just used chee’ilth to bleed him out
@ANIMEniacReview
@ANIMEniacReview 3 ай бұрын
Heads up so others don't make my mistake. Bring a Slow, Unstoppable Heavy champ like Beta Rey, or Grit champ for that Shocker. Cheese is no longer a things. Save yourself the revive spam and bring Chee'lth and heavy counter to make the boss easy.
@TI-om7sz
@TI-om7sz 3 ай бұрын
i just cheesed him with jugs it still works
@ANIMEniacReview
@ANIMEniacReview 3 ай бұрын
@TI-om7sz Juggs has unstoppable heavy. So like Beta Rey, that can work. Other champs cannot.
@preethamchintu9973
@preethamchintu9973 3 ай бұрын
20 mins ago i cheeses with venom brother it is working
@airfish8216
@airfish8216 3 ай бұрын
I used KP about an hour ago
@Tanuj0_0
@Tanuj0_0 3 ай бұрын
I simply used cgr for shocker cost me 1 revive and got him down
@Mr651
@Mr651 2 ай бұрын
Doctor Voodoo is good against HTD and Nova
@LordMistborn06
@LordMistborn06 3 ай бұрын
Cheesed with BRB. My timbers are thoroughly shivered, but it worked with 400 hits lol
@emperorelliot6679
@emperorelliot6679 19 күн бұрын
This path is pretty difficult.
@jasonsunner
@jasonsunner 3 ай бұрын
Cheese patched?
@bolt_vanderrhuuge5193
@bolt_vanderrhuuge5193 2 ай бұрын
No, just did it. Cheese confirmed.
@thedarkgamer5404
@thedarkgamer5404 3 ай бұрын
ig doom can take everyone in this path excpet red skull..
@DonReality
@DonReality 2 ай бұрын
When Nova uses specials the evade and unstoppable last significantly MUCHER longer than the purported 7 seconds, this is F*ING BULLSH*T!!! Kabam always has some underhanded mechanisms, masqueraded as a bug.
@dar-j
@dar-j 27 күн бұрын
It’s literally right in his sig ability: “Buffs last 80% longer”
@jedijones
@jedijones 17 күн бұрын
Yep, that made him extremely tough. Just a revive dump to finish. Way tougher than Shocker.
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