MCU Multiverse FINALLY Explained - Timelines, Universes, KANG's Plan & Avengers SECRET WARS

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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush Жыл бұрын
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@Invalidcookie-bv4cx
@Invalidcookie-bv4cx Жыл бұрын
Yup... You got it. Tony stark broke "Time" not loki. Revona was right. "the avengers did what they were suppose to do." That was the concept. A model of proof that it works. If the Avengers get pruned "Nathal Richards" can't find the discovery about the Ancor. Notice how Kangs Tempad looks just like Tony's model of the Ancor, to ground him to HIS universe. The only thing that doesn't make sense is Steve Rogers.
@Matisaro
@Matisaro Жыл бұрын
Time only works like back to the future in the TVA, which is like a little merry go round in the center of the timelines. Think about it, you would need to have a flow of time to even talk or do anything there so there is a self contained loop but unlike the refined timelines of the loom the TVA time works like back to the future where there is a past present and future you can alter. It is either a natural loop Kang took advantage of or one he created to facilitate the TVA entirely.
@Matisaro
@Matisaro Жыл бұрын
Further if you think about it the TVA HAS to have time which works like that otherwise variants could be born INSIDE the TVA which would eventually lead to Kang's downfall as anything that can happen does happen. SO the TVA is like a safe time loop around the citadel at the end of time which is where Alioth lives/was found.
@Matisaro
@Matisaro Жыл бұрын
And I firmly believe that the Citadel at the end of time is built on the same void Alioth exists in and is the crumbling last remains of it as the timer for resetting the whole timeline is the last bit of material crumbling at the center before the rebirth.
@adamwilliams3970
@adamwilliams3970 Жыл бұрын
One thing you’re not noticing is that he who remains says that a variant of himself lived in the 31st century and he was a scientist discovered that there were universes stacked on top of each other. If that was the original why did he who remains call him a variant. The original is victor timely
@BiG_EaZyy
@BiG_EaZyy Жыл бұрын
I think it's insane how they said this show had no reshoots, the story they set out to tell is the story we see and it's a masterpiece so far. Can't wait for these last 2 episodes.
@FireJach
@FireJach Жыл бұрын
Somebody spent some time to plan it. The rest MCU phase 4 and 5 were messed up because they hired noobs to manage their time
@proximashining776
@proximashining776 Жыл бұрын
Not having to do reshoots should be standard I think. First you write the script. If you don't like the script, you rewrite it until you're satisfied with it. And only then you start filming. You film all the scenes that are in your script. Then you add special effects and other post-work. And that's it. Surely it must be cheaper that way too. Changing the script after you started filming, scrapping already filmed scenes and filming new ones instead, redoing special effects etc. - all that must cost a lot of extra money.
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece? Lmao I mean it’s good, but a masterpiece? Just curious, what else in tv is considered a masterpiece to you as far as television goes?
@BiG_EaZyy
@BiG_EaZyy Жыл бұрын
@@ronthorn3 breaking bad, mainly because of performances and character arcs, which is something this show has nailed. Plus the cinematography is excellent. 🤷‍♂️
@SpyJamz
@SpyJamz Жыл бұрын
@@proximashining776 that's how standard television is. Reshoots before Marvel's footprint was mostly if test audiences didn't respond well or an actor that was unavailable is suddenly now available. There are scheduled reshoots in TV but it's for very minor tweaks, not "let's change the entire 3rd act" type of reshoots. After the news broke about Marvel TV not having a script fully completed, didn't have showrunners but instead film executives running the shows, etc. I can see why MCU Disney+ is struggling. That's why I'm excited for Gunn's DCU as he learned from Marvel and prefers the old school route of having a finished script before going to production. Like you said, it keeps the budget lowered.
@Marvelousgamer7697
@Marvelousgamer7697 Жыл бұрын
Loki season 2 has been such a blast! The show is so good that even when stuff happens that I completely don't understand I still have so much fun watching it just because everything else on screen is just so incredible!
@MrMoneymaker33
@MrMoneymaker33 Жыл бұрын
Doug doesn’t agree with!!!
@michaelallen555
@michaelallen555 Жыл бұрын
What was it you didn't understand? Not being a prick i wanna help clarify, this show is a banger needs longer episodes.
@qpN4SiRqp
@qpN4SiRqp Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelallen555nimbly wimbly timey wimey stuff probably did him in
@hightolerance8728
@hightolerance8728 Жыл бұрын
Fr😂 😂 I NEVER been so invested in a series that I have to rewinded so much . My slow ass be missing what’s going on 😂🤦🏾‍♂️ but after about 2 rewatches an hella rewinds.. The Theories from whether Timely was put in the 19th century as a baby from another timeline or WAS he actually a Victor variant. IS starting to make sense. This show is up there with some Marvel movies. It’s definitely better than any other MCU tv show
@hightolerance8728
@hightolerance8728 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelallen555more so I’m just tryna to figure out if There are all one person or if they are actually variants of each other. I’m stating to think it the latter. 😂😂😂 I always wanted to use that in a sentence hahaha
@johnclayburchett
@johnclayburchett Жыл бұрын
It makes me happy to hear “this job is a dream come true”. It certainly comes through in the work.
@SirOlivo
@SirOlivo Жыл бұрын
All I know is that you guys NEED to keep making these videos. Like, at all cost. If it weren’t for SC I wouldn’t be so invested and aware of what’s happening, which would definitely dilute my experience overall. Thank you for making Marvel better!
@keremince50
@keremince50 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! After each Marvel movie I watch, SC saves the day by explaining everything.
@iamhim2285
@iamhim2285 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a theory: The reason Loki can go back in time through the TVA and change things at the TVA is because the TVA has an apocalypse coming where everyone dies. So like in season 1, you can do whatever you want at the TVA and no branches will happen. Timeslipping was always possible at the TVA. Nobody ever saw it happen before so they thought it wasn’t possible. OB is the one who said it wasn’t possible but he got all of his knowledge from a Kang variant as he admitted in episode 4. HWR stated that his methods were deceptive. The “no time at the TVA” was just part of the dogma. Everything we see at the TVA is the past when you look at it from the end of time. I think the TVA used to be where the Citadel is.
@cyisacatnip375
@cyisacatnip375 Жыл бұрын
you forgot that the TVA is like a pocket dimension separated by time and space right?
@theorycraftingmachine2876
@theorycraftingmachine2876 Жыл бұрын
My theory is, that during Loki Season 2 episode 6, Kang the conqueror will escape the Multiversal Engine Core, who gets stranded in the Void, saving Ravonna Renslayer from being consumed by Alioth, who will then tame the beast, then at the end of the same episode Loki will go on to run the TVA during the events of Deadpool 3, but then during the events of Avengers The Kang Dynasty, Kang the Conqueror along with Ravonna Renslayer will usurp the power that Loki has over the TVA, leading to Loki warning the Avengers, then they will fight the Council of Kangs, but at the end of the film, Kang the Conqueror will prune all of the other timelines, leaving only the Sacred Timeline, then during the events of Avengers Secret Wars, the Avengers fight Kang the Conqueror, but will then help redeem Kang the Conqueror of his evil ways, leading him to become He Who Remains!
@Immortal_Liberty
@Immortal_Liberty Жыл бұрын
incorrect already, since Deadpool 3 script did not exist when they finished filming episode 6. So nothing like that will occur. And you will no longer see the variant you saw in ant man 3, wont be returning. Alioth will no longer be shown either. Renslayer will not be featured in the Avengers films btw. There will never be anymore pruning of all timelines, as it has already occurred in the past once, and much like John Connor was not originally someone who had Kyle Reese as the father, as it was not the first version of Skynet either, Terminator 2 and 3 explain this. We will not be seeing multiverse pruned anymore. And no, you will not see any One who remains, seems you were not paying attention to the video or the show ...he who remains is dead, he changed the past in a way where the loop is broken and he will never again become the one who remains.
@SAPANNow
@SAPANNow Жыл бұрын
Dude I LOVE this theory. I hope Feige and co. have thought out Phases 5 & 6 as well as you just did. A few years ago I would have been certain they did, but now I'm not so sure. Phase 4 was very messy. Hoping 5 and 6 are better and more planned out.
@slack__
@slack__ Жыл бұрын
@@Immortal_Liberty you say _they_ weren't paying attention, but you seem to miss the whole "you plunge your blade into my chest... and i end up back here anyways" part. HWR is inevitable, because loki and sylvie _didn't_ take his offer to take control of the TVA from him in season1, when it's what he wanted them to do - because he was tired of doing the loop again and again and again
@mr.m2695
@mr.m2695 Жыл бұрын
@@Immortal_Libertythey’ve kinda hinted Deadpool is gonna prune some variants.
@russrichardson991
@russrichardson991 Жыл бұрын
I can just see Principal Rennslayer taming Alioth by slapping its hands with a ruler
@marting9112
@marting9112 Жыл бұрын
My faith in Marvel is being restored with Loki and GotG3. After years of mediocre series AND films, we finally get the quality the we expect from Marvel. I enjoy watching Loki so much. I hope it only gets better from here on out.
@sterlingarcher5698
@sterlingarcher5698 Жыл бұрын
One thing I found interesting was that when OB and Moebius were discovering information via Loki talking to OB in the past...this is "old school" time travel logic - a single cohesive narrative that can be influenced in the past to affect the future (no branch timelines). Is this because TVA exists "outside of time" and can't have a branch reality?
@courtney-ray
@courtney-ray Жыл бұрын
I think that plus the fact that Loki’s time slipping was partially due to having been kicked through the portal opened by He Who Remains’ TemPad.
@brandondelacruz4170
@brandondelacruz4170 Жыл бұрын
"Time works differently in the TVA."
@brandonjordan4596
@brandonjordan4596 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think something about being within the TVA means that it cannot have branching timelines. That combined with using He Who Remains tempad that can seemingly access all points of time including the TVA's created the problem. All that makes sense, but who actually created the TVA is a bit of an issue right now.
@iamhim2285
@iamhim2285 Жыл бұрын
I suspect no branches happen at the TVA because an apocalypse is coming (already happened). Season 1 established this logic. I don’t think they can stop the loom from breaking.
@braukwood925
@braukwood925 Жыл бұрын
I’ve wondered if this is the same reason no one in the TVA seems to age.
@Earth_Being
@Earth_Being Жыл бұрын
Thor would be so proud of his little brother seeing this Loki, he's everything & much more Thor wished he was.
@trenitty81
@trenitty81 Жыл бұрын
These actors/actresses work so well with each other. Show is top notch!
@mekagoten
@mekagoten Жыл бұрын
Didn’t He who Remains say, in season 1, that he only knew up to a certain part of the timeline. Anything after the moment the Loki’s arrived to him was new to him and he doesn’t know what happens next? That’s why he was excited to see what would happen when he dropped the pen… because he no longer knew what would happen … with that being said, how would he be able to plan all the events after his passing, as you theorized ? Unless he was lying … but it seemed so genuine when He Who Remains finally crossed the threshold of time as he knew it.
@Mikeskeeze
@Mikeskeeze Жыл бұрын
Yeah i feel He who remains lied and has replanted himself somewhere as a backup for this new future he is unaware off. He was very excited so i see it as somewhat motivation for himself to get into the mix knowing Loki’s would kill him at that moment. God everyone can make up anything at this point and it all makes sense to some degree 😂 Marvel has struck this one out of the galaxy
@bleyd__
@bleyd__ Жыл бұрын
Because it was beggining of a new loop so "old" Kang couldn't know what is gonna happen to "new" Kang. It might be some specific moment we dont know yet. Lets wait for all of Kang's story. And of course all of this doesn't mean that they had "free will", its just Kang didnt know what is gonna happen because he died before he could tell it to his new self :D
@DylanMadd
@DylanMadd Жыл бұрын
Been wondering (pointlessly probably) about timelines vs universes. Loki S1 seemed to suggest a variant changing an outcome w/ a different choice created a new timeline and THAT creates a split UNIVERSE. But later, its seemed that each UNIVERSE has all its unique TIMELINES. And those can diverge and have a timeline war like what evidently happened when Kang did all that and ended up with his “sacred timeline”. In his one unique universe. Basically it’s still not clear.
@isaacmarshmallow8751
@isaacmarshmallow8751 Жыл бұрын
Watch 10 dimensions explained. Their relationship will make more sense
@proximashining776
@proximashining776 Жыл бұрын
I think the confusion is the result of the movie makers using the terms "universe" and "timeline" interchangeably. They're both basically the same thing. They should have picked one term (either universe or timeline) and use it all the time instead of switching between them.
@cartmanbruh23
@cartmanbruh23 Жыл бұрын
it's annoying.. I have given up. lol
@courtney-ray
@courtney-ray Жыл бұрын
In multiverse of madness, Strange encounters other Strange’s in other universes. They weren’t variants that branched from the sacred timeline, they were completely different versions in different dimensions with their own timelines. In Loki, the nexus events create branched timelines that create different variants. I think part of the reason Dream walking is forbidden is because it creates Dream connections between universes. Bridged universes are basically the multiverse. The same happens when the timelines from universes branch and collide. Unpruned they encroach on different timelines in other universes. That why you get incursions.
@proximashining776
@proximashining776 Жыл бұрын
@@courtney-ray If timelines from universes branch and collide all on their own, why is the multiverse war apparently caused by Kang portrayed as the reason for the destruction of the multiverse though? If universes collide with each other even without external "help", simply because their branches grow a certain way, then that must be a natural thing. And defeating Kang wouldn't actually save the multiverse because the incursions are happening naturally even without Kang.
@VeeTuTonic
@VeeTuTonic Жыл бұрын
One of the few gems Marvel have brought us recently. Loki has been so much fun to watch.
@snazzyopublic7985
@snazzyopublic7985 Жыл бұрын
1) That Victor getting spaghetti-ed creates the multiple Kangs: I agree. 2) That Loki is going to be spaghetti-ed again. I agree. 3) That each of his friends in the TVA visit their life per the trailer - YES. AND THIS IS LOKI’s MOTIVATION. See he loves Mobius, Casey, B-15, and Slyvie. If he can put them into happy timelines and keep them safe, he will do it. Thus, he will lose again. Not mentioned by you yet but I think it KEY: When Mobius & Loki enter Victor Timely’s childhood, the year is specified but NOT ‘Sacred’ or ‘Branched’. That’s the Nexus moment - not the book. Somehow we go back to that.
@ChrisBeardsley
@ChrisBeardsley Жыл бұрын
Keen observation. Nicely done.
@blkjem21
@blkjem21 Жыл бұрын
I think you're right about the Nexus point
@thaUnWavering
@thaUnWavering Жыл бұрын
For #3, how does Loki go about that goal? And it seems aligned with what Sylvie would want.
@patchesPstinkleT
@patchesPstinkleT Жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying since we met him that Victor was put there by He Who Remains (or obviously whoever set this plan in motion) and he was plucked and planted, just like how they used young Sylvie in their plan and orphaned her from time. It was the only theory I could come up with which made me feel better about how slap-sticky and filler that episode felt when we met him. O.B. even said that Victor was beyond brilliant for that time, and he was nerfed by the limitations of technology in the time they planted him, on top of being a second class citizen due to his race in that era. It was like a prison he didn’t know he was being kept in, sorta like any variant who works for the TVA.
@ldplays5663
@ldplays5663 Жыл бұрын
And now the timeline where Victor Timely is planted is continued as the sacred timeline, and all others are pruned, including the original one where he came from, since the sacred timeline is the one that kang decides it is. And then, because he is limited, he dies as a poor candle-maker, and no one suspects of him, but then, when the threshold comes, and he dies, the book is delivered, he turns onto victor timely, is set on his path, multiversal war, lioth, tva, The one who remais, loki(...) and so i believe.
@gabrielmendezquinteros4373
@gabrielmendezquinteros4373 Жыл бұрын
He who remains said " a variant of myself lived in the 31st century", never said all of them did.
@deem6077
@deem6077 Жыл бұрын
_"He is the Kang who knocks."_ *_"You're god damn right!!!"_* 🤣🤣😂😂 Maaan this is so well-produced!
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the multiverse saga?
@123j4j
@123j4j Жыл бұрын
Kang gotta live for at least 24 hours
@JaredAnderson422
@JaredAnderson422 Жыл бұрын
They gotta put more gay women of colour in it
@harshaslay
@harshaslay Жыл бұрын
Kang gona be terrifying more than thanos n make Avengers to pay. Lots of things will change and new things we are going to face
@luquepierce
@luquepierce Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan
@korymulanax3362
@korymulanax3362 Жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying it so far. I think with them cutting back on shows to focus on quality. It will get better from here, and happened long enough before the movie for them to get it right
@chappelle23
@chappelle23 Жыл бұрын
My problem with the time loop paradox is that there was likely an original set of events that enabled the loop in the first place, especially when branched timelines are involved. 31st century Kang could have gone through a natural series of events, became He Who Remains, and decided that Victor Timely was the variant to knock over the dominos to create Him. In multiverse/alternate timelines, you can’t preclude that there was a natural origin of the timeline to cause the loop.
@sagibear2506
@sagibear2506 Жыл бұрын
Marvel needs to do something with kang. Loki season 1 - kang is killed Antman 3 - kang is beaten by ant and killed Loki season 2 - kang shredded into pasta. Is kang the big bad or marvels version of kenny from south park
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
@bashengatheblackmanta7003 Жыл бұрын
Kang was beaten by the wasp in antman 3.
@jasonstrickland9245
@jasonstrickland9245 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately he shouldn't be the big bad, that should be the Beyonder or a trio of Beyonders, or more but Disney doesn't know what they're doing anymore.
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
@bashengatheblackmanta7003 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstrickland9245 after endgame, marvel studio should have changed strategy, instead of doing long form arc thrue multiple phases, they should have made story arc last only one phase. The movies+the Disney shows allow them to tell the story in only one phase. PHASE 4 :the filler phase, this phase doesn't have a overarching story but would rather deal with the repercussion of the snap/blip has on the world (emotionally, phisically, politically). Phase 5 :the Secret invasion storyarc Phase 6 : the multiverse story arc
@jonathanhadden7157
@jonathanhadden7157 Жыл бұрын
Kang's return is not complicated at all. Remember when Thanos snapped Loki's neck, killing him? That was the death of Loki in that Timline, but Loki was alive since birth in that timeline prior to his death. Likewise, there's a point where Victor Timely left the Timeline to visit the TVA, but all moments of Victr Timelys iife (prior to his death) still exist on the Timeline. The same way that a past version of Loki "sidesteped" his own death, Loki can sip back in time and find a younger Vicotr Timely (still on the Timeline), and take *THAT* Victor Timely back to the TVA to do it differently. And he can do this nigh-infinite times, for every moment of Victor Timely's life from birth until he stepped thru the time portal.
@giangctofficial853
@giangctofficial853 Жыл бұрын
You do know that if you do that, eventually u have to return what you’ve took to thay exact moment? If you keep sacrifice Timly like that i doubt things will remain the same when you can return him to every moment you took him away
@Radical_Seth
@Radical_Seth Жыл бұрын
This saga is sorta confusing ngl, and also overwhelming with all the movies but I still love it
@kittentalons
@kittentalons Жыл бұрын
Kinda like with WandaVision, I'm enjoying the confusion
@gerrigarrick
@gerrigarrick Жыл бұрын
I don't know. I can't figure it all out! What I do know is that thus far Loki's character arc has worked, seeing him question his identity in season 1 and growing into a guy who wants to heroically save his friends is what makes it all work. Unlike, secret Invasion, this show is led by character, because plot means nothing without it.
@MercedesBurks-wk9xj
@MercedesBurks-wk9xj Жыл бұрын
Ryan!!! I am all the way there with you! My son has been a follower of you for a long time and I watch you with him. I had to finally become a FULL subscriber since I have been a supporter for years! On this one, I am in total agreement with you. You are the ONLY one out of the others like New Rockstars, Cosmic Wonder, Heavy Spoilers and etc that backs up my own theories I give to my son about Marvel! You are the best and you have a NEW follower for life! Keep them coming! Headed to watch the review on the trailer… let’s go!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work as always, Ryan. Love your vids. And thanks for the shout out. Honored to have helped in any way I could.
@gurieldaniel6004
@gurieldaniel6004 Жыл бұрын
Ryan, one thing you haven't mentioned yet and I thought to bring it up. if we compare the MCU to the comics - 616 to 199999, Kang always was and always is a variant of another. the original Kang the Conqueror came from Earth-6311 and so does all his incarnations - Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, Immortus, Iron Lad, and Mister Gryphon all started as Nathaniel Richards from Earth-6311, when he himself he's a variant of Nathaniel Richards who is a time traveller and the father of Reed Richards in Earth-616. so my theory is that this Kang, much like his comics counterpart took the control over the sacred timeline\main universe out of spite, he doesn't belong there from the first place, he's irrelevant to the sacred timeline. the loop can be broken because it's not supposed to happen and time will correct itself.
@michaelmartinez7671
@michaelmartinez7671 Жыл бұрын
Dude, u n Doug ROCK!!
@memedelacrememe
@memedelacrememe Жыл бұрын
Kang "falling" to the bedrock of all existence really is the crucial point of the entire saga (which follows from Infinity War, so it fits perfectly). I'm also glad you finally made a reference to Lost, as I've been getting "not Penny's boat' vibes for a while now. I'll see ya in another life, brotha.
@nathanadam
@nathanadam 11 ай бұрын
I think Jonathan Majors gives us a hint at Kang the Conqueror's return through the distinct manorisms and speech patterns he uses for each Kang variant. For example, when Miss Minutes shows Renslayer the moment He Who Remains wipes her memory, the vocal cadence Majors' employs in the scene is closer to Kang's deliberate, reserved speech than it is to HWR more flamboyant showmanship. Great show! Love the channel Ryan and Colton!
@buildingbread
@buildingbread Жыл бұрын
I love Loki S2 so far…but this all shows why I don't like time travel. End Game made this more complex than it needed to be.
@1okdude
@1okdude Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I'm loving the addition of The Big Lebowski clips. I like your style dude.
@Rowaninja98760
@Rowaninja98760 Жыл бұрын
You got that first theory right because he goes back in time in the 5th episode
@mikebid87
@mikebid87 Жыл бұрын
Incredible breakdown Ryan!
@_Outdoor_Odyssey_
@_Outdoor_Odyssey_ Жыл бұрын
Love your videos mate! Keep up the great work! Your videos are like extended edition for Loki
@gunterzote
@gunterzote Жыл бұрын
MARVEL truthfully need your guide man! Cheers for your nerdly passion!
@palashpathak3752
@palashpathak3752 Жыл бұрын
Really like this new editing style of show and tell. Props to the editor.
@StygianStyx
@StygianStyx Жыл бұрын
Time loops, paradoxes, Causality, the multiverse, etc it's actually really easy to understand. I have been loving the hell out of this Loki show.
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 Жыл бұрын
🤔🤨😅😉✌️
@vrochill
@vrochill Жыл бұрын
🤓
@scoob4u
@scoob4u 10 ай бұрын
Nice breakdown, Ryan!
@Jgutterud
@Jgutterud Жыл бұрын
I can really notice a difference in your hair since I started watching, that's a great ad for keeps😊
@largepurplemonkey
@largepurplemonkey Жыл бұрын
*ScreenCrush coming up with increasingly more complex theories and narratives* Disney Execs: "...You guys realise we're aiming for mass audience appeal here right?"
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Жыл бұрын
THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan!!!! The book is really good but I just skimmed it. I wish you guys had waited a day and incorporated the stuff in the new trailer but there's always tomorrow!
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to keep coming to Screen Crush for my multiverse explanations.
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 11 ай бұрын
11:06 I think it’s so cool that the Citadel is on top! 😃
@RodrigoMeschiatti
@RodrigoMeschiatti Жыл бұрын
Ive been watching this channel for years now and more than once the theories you guys come with for future projects are way cooler than what the writers end up doing.
@ernovanchannel
@ernovanchannel 2 ай бұрын
sadly they scratched Kang the Conqueror Arc all at once.
@henrylopez3479
@henrylopez3479 Жыл бұрын
Not ashamed to admit I may have to watch this 5x for it to fully sink
@3sgtecelica
@3sgtecelica Жыл бұрын
I'm so pleasantly surprised how ScreenCrush actually understands and can simply explain what's going on with Kang and the whole timeline/ time travel stuff of the MCU. Even more, how most of it is VERY faithful to the comics. I'm seeing so many bad takes from here on KZbin and even worse ones from braindead bird app users. It's nice to know there are actual other MCU fans out there that get it.
@ThugDrama
@ThugDrama Жыл бұрын
2:03 🤣🤣😭
@Hendrix.Robinson
@Hendrix.Robinson Жыл бұрын
This was good video! Thanks Ryan!
@guccigrady1784
@guccigrady1784 Жыл бұрын
In Loki series season 2 episode 4 when they turned the code off so the variants could use their powers and magic. I wonder what else was going on inside the TVA and if there was mutants in there using their powers and magic to escape the TVA. Also does that mean the infinity stones will work now in the TVA?
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Жыл бұрын
As long as the dampeners are off, yes. Next question is whether the reboot necessarily turned them on, or is it a Jurassic Park moment where the dampeners will stay off until capacitors are charged, which allow them to be turned on.
@thaUnWavering
@thaUnWavering Жыл бұрын
Infinity Stone aren't considered magic, more like natural energy of the universe put into small packages. But they would only work in the universe they are originally from. Learned that in "What If" if I recall correctly
@Domdrok
@Domdrok Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, Pavel T!
@BL_fanboy
@BL_fanboy Жыл бұрын
I mean the mid season trailer gave us some answers to all my doubts
@rickeywilliams6223
@rickeywilliams6223 Жыл бұрын
AHHHH! Not this channel having a cut of my Favorite Lost episode explaining this mumbo jumbo. Loved that Charlie was in another world lol
@AjinoARC
@AjinoARC Жыл бұрын
wait... OB never met Victor before he said in ep 4 that he used Victor's notes to study the tech and not actual Victor was there to teach him
@jaimemedina6895
@jaimemedina6895 Жыл бұрын
Doug is the main reason why I watch these videos.
@larrymansfield9393
@larrymansfield9393 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone understands all this
@jillg9108
@jillg9108 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Loki who came back after Sylvie killed Kang is not the same variant who was with Sylvie and Kang.
@Itscamithink
@Itscamithink Жыл бұрын
I love watching this channel and everything but it’s kind of crazy that it takes this level of explanation just to understand what’s going on. That speaks more to the incompetence at Marvel than anything.
@cheekster777
@cheekster777 Жыл бұрын
*AWESOME!* 😎 Thanks Ryan.
@skmky01
@skmky01 Жыл бұрын
Got my Variant zip up hoodie yesterday!🎉❤
@pratiku2489
@pratiku2489 Жыл бұрын
There are two ways to look. 1) A multiverse traversing and time travelling Kang/ HWR/VT running in a loop. 2) A linear timeline events and universe colliding with multiverse. And then you get Multiverse saga. Acts of Kang are like Dr Strange & Chavez jumping multiverses. Dr Strange has already worked together and fought with his multiversal counterparts he has just not done a temporal thing yet.
@javierper3z
@javierper3z Жыл бұрын
This sounds fun. I have no idea how they could tell this story in the movies… you need to know so much and in so much detail.
@brianpank
@brianpank Жыл бұрын
Love that you referenced Lost in this video. I see lots of parallels. Alioth =smoke monster?
@adeolaogunleye4140
@adeolaogunleye4140 Жыл бұрын
This season is amazing
@ROLO31
@ROLO31 Жыл бұрын
i feel like the past being changed this season only works bc it’s in the TVA.. it was always said the TVA was outside of the sacred timeline and now that kang has been killed there is mobility between points in time in the TVA (like traditional time travel logic) unlike on the sacred timeline where branches are formed where changes are made (the MCU time travel logic weve gotten to know)
@kapriw801
@kapriw801 Жыл бұрын
14:52 😭😭😭 I’m traumatized, I just knew you were gonna say, “Your mom.” Lmaooo
@MILO021
@MILO021 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video ❤️
@RyanHaney55
@RyanHaney55 Жыл бұрын
"Loki" doesn't confuse me. I just go with it and enjoy the ride.
@tscarb
@tscarb Жыл бұрын
… Hold on hold on then what about whenever Rendslayer said that the Avengers were supposed to go back in time?
@sorensmith9873
@sorensmith9873 Жыл бұрын
This sort of makes sense, am interested to see how this all plays out especially in the next few movies. Definitely didnt think Kang died at the end of Quantumania so seems like he will have a huge role heading into Secret Wars. As Marvel does have a history of changing comic storylines so as not to be too predicable, maybe Kang will be the movie version of The Beyonder? could see that happening
@SkottAllen
@SkottAllen Жыл бұрын
I agree with like 99% of this. One thing I would add is the possibility that Stark using the "inverted mobius strip" in Endgame may have actually been key to ending the "continuous loop"... Which the last Tony variant stuck in the infinite loop briefly mentioned might be an issue lol. It was also the presence of two Starks in 2012 that alerts the Loki variant that something is amiss. When you mess with time, it messes back, there's still "no version of this" where Loki wins against Stark/The Avengers, and even dead Tony is still the hero (E.D.I.T.H.) etc. It's only a matter of time before a variant of Stark returns.
@ronny7-clips
@ronny7-clips 3 ай бұрын
bro how did you predict it like I mean thats smart and crazy good job mate
@Yuusfw
@Yuusfw Жыл бұрын
I think Loki can change the past in the TVA because time works differently in there. Also, the TVA is literally floating on a space outside of the time streams, so it make sense that place has different physical properties
@delaoricky
@delaoricky Жыл бұрын
Dude I love this video so much information ❤❤❤❤❤
@funkyfreshspringrolls
@funkyfreshspringrolls Жыл бұрын
I'm more confused than ever
@marcusw2125
@marcusw2125 Жыл бұрын
I think the TVA destruction was the cause of loki time slipping in the first place. We never saw how he began to time slip.
@marcusw2125
@marcusw2125 Жыл бұрын
And the only real way he stops time slipping is by keeping it from being destroyed
@zhaff-ud6rh
@zhaff-ud6rh Жыл бұрын
In X-Men: The Animated series, S4E21 Beyond Good and Evil Part 4 after Apocalypse's plan to take over the nexus and time fails, the crazy guy (Bender) who tells Bishop that he is the custodian of time and the person who BULT THE NEXUS, transforms into his true self, which is none other than... Immortus. Great little easter egg and maybe we see something similar going forward (Is OB secretly Immortus and reveals himself after the TVA explodes?)
@Isiah365
@Isiah365 Жыл бұрын
Doug need a pay raise lol
@imcool6666
@imcool6666 Жыл бұрын
love this theory it’s amazing
@titusmushinge8328
@titusmushinge8328 Жыл бұрын
Am not up for the theory that spaghettificaton creates variants of kang, if we look back to S01 episode 6 killing he who remains caused his variants to come back
@intothefrayyo
@intothefrayyo Жыл бұрын
A few mentioned it & then the internet just ran with it 😂
@richardbaldwin8572
@richardbaldwin8572 Жыл бұрын
You make an excellent point. Victor timely is he who remains. He said in the season finale of season one, the a variant of himself was born sometime in the 31st century.
@oOSure_ShotOo
@oOSure_ShotOo Жыл бұрын
ScreenCrush are the 🐐
@stevens4492
@stevens4492 Жыл бұрын
I still find it funny when Miss Minutes says to Timely, "I got something important to tell you," all frantically then she insults him before getting rebooted.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan. Not ALL of us find it confusing. I'm happy that the consequences and effects of messing with timelines have been explored so well in this series and throughout the MCU. People might now stop trying to treat each part of the story as lineal. It's part of a bigger all encompassing story. It's the story of everyTHING, everyBODY, everyWHEN and everyWHERE. Certain events are waypoints that cannot be changed. When they happen might change. How they happen might change. But the fact of their occurring will never change. That's why changing the past can cause a loop in the future. It's like my satnav. Sometimes if I set a destination the satnav will take me on a route that I know is either further or slower than the one I have in my head. So I go MY way. But, the satnav will continue to stubornly try and push me back onto the path it originally set. If I go far enough on MY path the satnav will adjust. It will still try and return me to the same route it originally planned, but at a later point in the route. Eventually, when I'm far enough along the route, most of the original satnav route will have been bypassed but I will inevitably have to follow the same few roads at the end of the journey that finally lead to my intended destination as the satnav had planned for me. In the end I will have to fall in line with the original destination as people in Time have to fall in line with the original Destiny. The rest is the illusion of free will.
@nancyscogin7549
@nancyscogin7549 Жыл бұрын
I just watched the Loki midseason trailer and OMG!!! 😄
@paulperez6132
@paulperez6132 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done guys....this is sound 👌
@TheChocoboKid
@TheChocoboKid Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Doug is so mad. He would be a great actor for Dog Loki
@COUCHWHALES
@COUCHWHALES Жыл бұрын
So if Victor Timely was spaghettified at the loom, would using the temporal aura extractor bring every variant to the TVA since his temporal aura is seemingly the same everywhere? Is this Kang's plan to take over the TVA?
@mutungiedmund2355
@mutungiedmund2355 Жыл бұрын
Loki Season 2 is a blast 😊
@prodjhurrikane3779
@prodjhurrikane3779 Жыл бұрын
lol love that guitar drop for the intro!!
@eddieterrell5457
@eddieterrell5457 Жыл бұрын
Uh great theory except tony stark didn’t invent time travel, he did invent a device to navigate time travel tho. Big difference
@snadmh5086
@snadmh5086 11 ай бұрын
If there is Sacred timeline ... where is the show "What if" took place ?
@ragamjagoan5862
@ragamjagoan5862 11 ай бұрын
The Infinity Saga was building up nuance of Thanos' evil plan. While the Multiverse saga seems like Injustice 1 and 2 game, the villain is obvious from the start which in this case is Kang, so just pray that Marvel does not messing it up and at least the stories build up like Injustice games.
@TheFilmSpace1
@TheFilmSpace1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing season !!
@Moleculor
@Moleculor Жыл бұрын
4:05 No, Kang clearly says he *lived* in the 31st century. Not that he originated there.
@joevonloser00
@joevonloser00 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job all of yall. No one explains this quite like OUR channel. Thank you again Screen Crush
@jonathanhadden7157
@jonathanhadden7157 Жыл бұрын
Read Adam Warlock #11. This was the 1st Marvel character to trap the remainder of his life to be a time -loop where he knows everything that's going to happen with no ability to change it. One of the coolest aspects of his character has been compromised to be used elsewhere within the MCU.
@christophersimms9785
@christophersimms9785 Жыл бұрын
12:11 i love how Tony Stark figuring out time travel is what essentially creates Kang. Which is why I’m hoping before the time loop, Nathanial Richards was a huge Tony Stark fan. It’s crazy to think about that if Tony Stark stayed at home with Pepper and Morgan, Kang probably wouldn’t have been a time traveling “villain”.
@sanidhyatrivedi4689
@sanidhyatrivedi4689 Жыл бұрын
But then HWR fought multiversal war in 31st cen and tony figuring out time travel was in 2000s
@adamlegros1180
@adamlegros1180 Жыл бұрын
This theory makes the “its who i need to be” Line hit harder
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