MCU Phase Four Sucked | The Ultimate Review Part 1

[@onebeerleft13]

Remember when an MCU movie felt like an event and you'd leave school or work early to go with your friends/family to watch it? Yeah, that's gone. Phase four killed that.

[@supermodestmouse]

Yup. I took off the day for endgame. My coworker asked if she should take her kids. I told her to get them out early to avoid a spoiler. This was our star wars moment. Now, I honestly forgot when the movies were coming out.

[@hyperspace2752]

Should've ended it with Endgame but they kept milking it dry with all the shitty shows and shitty movies.

[@sunrupuk9634]

​@@supermodestmouse idk why but this sounds so wholesome

[@39mack23]

I thought i was the only one that thought that. I literally choose DC films over them now. It's sad A new low for me lol

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

Now they feel like homework, and I’m more than happy to flunk the course.

[@JoeMacStevens]

The best part about Phase 4 have been the critical analyses.

[@tristavlog]

lol true 😂

[@purefoldnz3070]

best part is when it ended.

[@Tamaldo]

I can't tell you how many She-Hulk review videos I've watched 😂😂

[@shay7213]

Lmfao

[@NeOmega83]

Yup, I've found dozens of new critical channels to watch after each MsheU movie to help me cope.

[@Jomali]

Not only did they give Andrew Garfield his deserved third act, they managed to avoid one of the MCU's biggest wrinkles; the inability to let an emotional moment sit without someone making a funny quip.

[@someguy2347]

a "funny" quip

[@ladylynx9891]

In my theaters, when MJ asks back if Peter is okay, many people laughed, but it wasn't a "oh I'm programmed to laugh now because they said fart", they laughed in a "how wholesome and brilliant that line was?" way

[@manictiger]

The fighting is also pretty weak, because the actors are too lazy to learn martial arts to better fill their roles, since it's not required of them. But then we see things like RRR and Puss In Boots: Last Wish. How are non-hero movies having better fight scenes than the MCU? Well, I know the answer, but still. These are guys that can fling buildings at each other, but they can't figure out how to have some cool, maybe even ridiculous fight scenes? Yeah I want to see some super heroes sword fight with street lamps and buses. Yeah, I want to see actual martial arts mixed in with creative ways to use energy attacks, flinging molten metal around, using wheels like make shift shields, stomping and kicking pieces of road into enemy faces, etc. There's a trillion possibilities, but it's always ever just Adobe Aftereffects laser effects.

[@totallyjerd1751]

​@@manictiger that's why the medium of animation is superior. There can be so much creativity in the fight choreography.

[@Ronin.97]

most people in my theatre cheered or simply went AWEE@@ladylynx9891

[@smg3250]

Imo, Wanda didn't need to be sympathetic. Her watching her husband die in front of her was enough reason to drive her to build her own twisted fantasy. Is what she did okay? No. And that's good. I like unhinged villain Wanda. They didn't need to try and make her seem justified. Painting her in a justified light took away from the story

[@mailpaper7754]

They really ruined her character. They weren't confident enough to make her an Avenger, but also not confident enough to make her a villain.

[@abowlofrice1245]

I just wished the series didn't leave off on the note that she is at least somewhat remorseful for what she has done but then turns up her evilness to an 11 at the beginning of MoM

[@smg3250]

@@abowlofrice1245 that was the dumbest 180 I've ever seen. Marvel was eating glue on that one

[@ConstellationEternalLucidDream]

Bruh she literally starts as volunteering to be experimented on by hydra (Nazis in mcu) to get revenge on a weapons manufacturer ceo for a missle in a war- she did not start out very sympathetic at all in my opinion

[@dr.boring7022]

​@@abowlofrice1245 100%. And she's not doing it all to see her brother again. She's not doing it all to see Vision again. NOPE, she's doing it for some kids that she's never met in her life. They were literally made up in her little fantasy realm. Multiverse of Madness could have been easily solved if she had just adopted a kid, or a cat.

[@cjwalker1593]

I feel like shang-chi would’ve been better if it just ended with a fight between him and his dad instead of the big cgi monster boss fight.

[@TheMovieCynic]

Agreed 💯

[@HEEHEEBOII]

Same tbh

[@thegamesforreal1673]

If it had ended with the fight between him and his dad on the front gate of the big cgi monster, that would've been so much better. Sure, some immature nitwits would complain that we didn't get to see the soul eater or whatever it's called, but it would've also been a much scarier threat if they hadn't revealed it at all. Fear of the unknown and all that.

[@batooo]

Thats a fact right there, it would spare us a whole explaination of the act 3 just for a fight that no one wanted

[@MrAtbillings]

Yeah for sure, but with that said Shang Chi was a pretty good one out of the bunch.

[@NightNinja7777]

The scene with the Illuminati was infuriating to say the least. So Reed Richards, known to be one of the smartest beings in the whole Marvel universe, who is presented a potential threat, tells said threat how Black Bolt's powers work. BB's mouth gets sealed shut. BB, who has disciplined himself his whole life to NEVER speak unless absolutely necessary, thinks the first thing he should do once his mouth is sealed is to try and say something? Then Professor X, the world's greatest telepath, not standing even the slightest chance against Wanda in HIS domain? Or Captain Marvel, who flew through a spaceship in Endgame without a scratch, dying to.....a falling statue? K Marvel. Good stuff.

[@turkepic3637]

I am pretty sure Prof X can literally kill every human on earth using Cerebro. He's a fucking god within the domain of the mind. Like holy shit. At least make it some sort of epic confrontation.

[@FlightX101]

Also they were written as low IQ characters.............knowing how powerful strange is if he is warning you about scarlet witch constantly you might want to take him seriously. Shes one of the reasons why he is even there in the first place. But nope they ignore him and die for it

[@drno87]

I thought Wanda winning the mental game against Professor X was clever on account of her powers coming from the Mind Stone. That was even a big point in Infinity War where her affinity with the Stone let her destroy it.

[@kron7536]

Reed even telling Wanda that BB can kill her without effort is stupid, it makes him the priority target, even without the power snitching he'd still die first.

[@thelaw_00]

Also the fact that Reed Richards tried to grab, FROM A DISTANCE, Wanda with his stretching arm after witnessing her do instantaneous magic(which she doesn't do again afterwards fsr) against Black Bolt. It was so insanely dumb. It's like approaching an officer with a rifle and you only have a knife 25 feet away.

[@FixTheFlick]

Phase Four should've all been small scale, very personal stories. Go back to ground and build slowly back up. It's what made the MCU so great in the first place.

[@indiajohnson]

👌🏾👍🏾

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

But u can't make character great if u don't put them into bigger threats like iron man or captain america

[@FixTheFlick]

@@michaeljosephjackson2364 Bigger threats are good. But, when building Phase Four, those threats should've been personal and emotional, rather than physical. Make us _care_ about these new characters by threating something they love intensely. Not yet another world ending whatever-it-is..

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

@FixTheFlick infinity war and endgame was universe ending threat Phase 4 wants to take to mulitversal threat I think to do that mcu needs to slow not rush it will work believe me And x men and fantastic four need time to build like avengers as x men is already known by audiences due to previous movie Spider verse and across the verse was multiversal movie but audience loved it Brilliant writing will do anything regardless of this multiverse stuff

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

@@FixTheFlick more than that Phase 4 should be about x men and fantastic four rather than replacing another avengers

[@miha493]

Reed Richards just pulled 200 IQ move and saved his universe from Disney and 5th phase of MCU. Real hero that bravely sacrificed himself to save his world.

[@arczero1623]

The only way to win is not to play. Truly, Reed was operating on a different level 🙏

[@patrickday4206]

What's this statement about?

[@dagg497]

​@@patrickday4206The faceoff with Wanda in Multiverse of Madness. Where Mr Fantastic idiotically namedrops every heroes powers😂

[@AdamSlander888]

I was honestly happy as hell black bolt died it made me feel good knowing he died how he lived, doing actually nothing not even progressing the plot

[@justingomez7987]

Phase 4 made people realize that the Superhero genre really could fall off. Crazy.

[@jeebtheweeb]

I still remember hearing about super hero fatigue and batting my eyes.

[@UnknownEX0]

Well and dceu

[@supermodestmouse]

The stupidest thing is I'd imagine marvel has 85+ years of metrics and data to pull from: what stories and arcs did well, what didn't; What characters have been rebooted 100 times and which varients didn't do well. But they ignored most if that and brought back all the poorly selling lines from the mid 90s to today.

[@hyperspace2752]

@@supermodestmouse i disagree. They could follow all of that metrics and stuff but they'll still flop. It's inevitable. All good things must end. It's like that quote, " You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain.". Could've ended it on a high note but they chose to milk it dry.

[@AlesMicik]

Yeah... I was saying this shit in 2015 or so... no matter what. It will die off. It always happens.

[@deganhardt77]

what they did to taskmaster in Black Widow is unforgiveable. Such a unique character reduced to audience pandering. That and Namor, blegh.

[@avibenhaim3905]

I liked Namor tbh he was not that bad

[@jacobkirk1846]

You just threw Namor in there with Taskmaster like they’re in anyway the same 💀

[@ReysonFox]

They wasted every one of them

[@josiah3820]

Audience pandering? My G the audience that they even pandered didn't even go watch the movies!!! Rubbish thst Disney is this crappy!

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

​@@avibenhaim3905He wasn't bad or good, he wasn't interesting enough to be either of those things. Namor was just there.

[@SammEater]

Who knew the title 'Endgame' was so right about the MCU as a whole.

[@weavorjjohanna5619]

i remember those days where my friends and me never skip a single MCU movies, every new trailer announcement is another massive event, and everytime we walk out of the theater we do the goofy gesture mimicing the thing we just saw on the big screen now... i couldn't care less

[@caldodge]

Gor's god telling Gor how to kill him is like Mister Fantastic telling Scarlet Witch who she needs to kill first.

[@Bladezeromus]

Shut up. Shut up shut up shut up! Ugh, now I'm remembering that Black Bolt decided to use his powers with his mouth sealed shut. Like he didn't know what his own powers do.

[@AranhaaTheSixtyninth]

@@Bladezeromus I think it was more of a shock reaction yk? he was like "huh- OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK-"

[@leightonpetty4817]

At least in Thor the entire joke was “The god is a big fat lazy idiot who blatantly spells out how to kill him.” Not, you know, the “smartest man in the world”.

[@sadchild9478]

@@AranhaaTheSixtyninth except black bolt has trained himself his whole life to never freak out and yell because it could kill people. Which the writers should’ve considered. How did black bolt live his life that long and not kill everyone already if he reacts to something shocking by yelling?

[@XaadeTheBlade]

​@@AranhaaTheSixtyninth But part of being a professional is being skilled enough to know that. Someone with that powerset, and that amount of time to develop it would think about possible scenarios on the regular. I'm not asking for Batman levels of prep here. Just common sense.

[@joingaramo17]

I think that the last time an MCU movie felt like a big event to me was with No Way Home. When I was watching Thor Love and Thunder, it started to remind me of 1997 Batman & Robin with the extreme silliness and nonsensical plot.

[@PhillipOnTakos]

Don't drag Batman and Robin down to Thor Love and Thunder's level. Batman and Robin is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen and is endlessly entertaining. I mean it's bad don't get me wrong but it's so entertainingly bad.

[@aronbond]

spot on!

[@zacharyjackson1829]

The last marvel movie I went to the theaters for was No Way Hone and I have no intention of changing that anytime soon

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

@@PhillipOnTakos Schmaucher isn’t entirely to blame for that 1997 flop. A lot of that came from Warner demanding toy promotion and that’s where a bunch of the goofiness and bizarre sets do.

[@mikaelafox6106]

@@zacharyjackson1829 you could always see the little mermaid. 😐

[@thelasthunter7906]

One of the smallest changes to Black Widow to actually improve it and its themes is simply: Have Draekov's daughter actually CHOOSING to fight Widow, instead of being brainwashed. Have Nat's choice have a true, permanent consequence and have Loki's line in The Avengers about her ledger "Gushing red" ring true. Have the anti mind-control mist *not work* and have Taskamaster keep fighting, forcing Natasha to put her down. Boom, choices and consequences while putting forth an interesting question: Does changing to be a better person and committing to heroism mean your past crimes are forgiven? Hell, that even moves across the entirity of Phase 4 with Loki, Wanda, and...even Ikaris.

[@dtruck90]

THAT'S EXACTLY what I said as I left the theater! Make it an actual morally conflicting choice.

[@juliankanzuki2013]

Wanda...? Wanda was never forgiven.. Wanda vision ended with her fleeing the scene because eveyone in the town was terrified of her and seen her as a monster, the only person who didn't hate her was Monica, who A, is bias towards her due to being conencted to captain Marvel, and B, literally felt her pain without being trapped in there long enough to be horrifically tortured. And then in Dr Strange 2, Wanda outright becomes the villan and has to die.

[@Aspect_of_the_idiot]

There's a lot I would say need to be improved but I think this would have been an amazing change. In this new phase all the characters are practically flawless and I'd bet there will never be in fighting because they are all the bestes of friends. Captain America in the movies was practically flawless but he had character and nowhere was that shown better than civil war (in my opinion) where his ideology and Tony's clashed, neither of them wrong or right, and he had to hurt someone who he called a friend to protect another who he considers a brother

[@heroman2372]

No, no, that means lasting consequences. We can't have those.

[@heavy5013]

Even better fix. Have taskmaster actually be taskmaster.

[@StubbornBullet]

The British cinema experience is very different from the American one. Its rather quiet when we watch films apart from the odd laugh at a good joke. We don't offen cheer films when an epic moment happens like Americans. However the moment Thor came down and said "Bring me Thanos" was the first time I experienced a British cinema audience, as one, erupt with excitement

[@Hdub8526]

It’s the same in America. It’s just a totally different experience when it comes to marvel and star wars. Brings out the most obnoxious audience

[@newp0rt]

this comment somehow insinuates that somehow american cinema experience has common cheering and laughing. when its literally the same as every other cinema. its just specific series that have a loud audience. its like saying because that one actor in tiger 3 in india made the entire indian cinema pop off, their theatres are loud and always like that. makes no sense. just like how the MCU in america makes people obnoxious, it does the same to british. go watch the new godzilla zero movie and you wont hear a peep in either theatre.

[@thekraken1909]

My cinema going experience is always a bunch of zoomer douchebags who can't NOT be on their phones for an hour and a half.

[@_V.Va_]

@@newp0rtYeah it's a shame people can be this ignorant and base their statements on few instances.

[@MariusNinjai]

Avengers Endgame was silent until Captain America grabbed the hammer then someone shouted YEAHHHHH!! in the England funny moment

[@dredgen0268]

My biggest issue with Phase 4 was Love and Thunder. God this movie should’ve been a serious and dark movie. Gorr was amazing-is amazing and he needed and deserved so much more.

[@charlesdowney2834]

Thank you he is like Thor's joker to be honest that's his strongest villain especially if you include story not just fights they've had

[@mcm4rr]

yeah idk how this one ended up being so disappointing. Taika watiti did a fantastic job with thor ragnarok.

[@Adityarm.08]

​@@mcm4rrI had the same thoughts when Ragnarok came out. It should have been a serious movie too. Didn't even watch this one knowing what to expect.

[@suryamgangwal8315]

they also wasted the necrosword, it is was a literal symbiote that also the first ever created. it just looked like a generic sword

[@charlesdowney2834]

@@mcm4rr I think it's the limitations of Disney if they could've gave gore the setup he deserved he definitely could've been a great villain but he wasn't built up like the joker and the MCU is kinda childish

[@Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets]

"I sat down and rewatched all of phase 4..." There are better, quicker, less painful ways to end yourself. Or here's a better idea, call someone and let them know you're in a bad way. No one should rewatch any of phase 4.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

There are harder, better, faster, stronger ways to accomplish sudoku.

[@charless3108]

​@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Seppuku?

[@asgardiangod23]

​@@charless3108 mmm .. Sudoku for sure

[@aronbond]

hahaha nicely put bucket

[@deadpooldan9862]

I rewatch Phase 4 movies and shows from time to time, it’s not bad except for She Hulk, which I won’t touch again

[@KyleJWest-vn9kn]

The way they handled Professor X in the last Doctor Strange movie was when I finally realized that these MCU movies are not being made for me anymore.

[@justsomedude2020]

that and the way they made everything a joke in love and thunder. They wasted gorr acted by Christian f*ckin Bale

[@JRMagro]

The way they hyped up Professer X and possibly fantastic 4, just to make it a blatant bait and hook, was downright despicable

[@BeegBruddah]

The way things went down in Multiverse of Madness was actually the dumbest thing ever. Like, I enjoyed the campy horror elements of Sam Raimi in the movie and the visual effects were fun... but seriously? Every single death was pretty much for plot convenience.

[@eli2210]

Took you that long?

[@BeegBruddah]

@justsomedude2020 They made Thor a joke right after Endgame because they couldn't have someone masculine and awesome running around. He has to be a joke otherwise he's "threatening".

[@PristinePerceptions]

The funniest part about Eternals was how they f-ed over Kumail Nanjiani. Chloe told Kumail that he would play a bollywood hero. Now, for those who don't know, action scenes and dance sequences are table stakes for any "stereotypical" bollywood hero. Kumail was categorical beforehand that he would not dance. Chloe agreed. So Kumail spent months getting ripped, because he might as well excel in the second requirement. This was a superhero movie after all. When the time came to shoot his scenes, she asked him to dance (which he wasn't prepared for), didn't let him go shirtless (which he was prepared for) and made his weapon a handgun 🤦 You want diversity? Give the bollywood hero his action scenes! He knows what he's doing. You'd have had the first brown actor in a Jason Statham-like role in any Hollywood movie ever! Why do have to make him a nerd? And to think that an Asian director would not see this...

[@styx7777]

I mean, have you ever seen characters in Indian cinema? Damn, these are death machines and a nightmare for physics. Absolutely units

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

Damn, I did not know that. Kinda feel bad for him

[@NTNG13]

all those steroids and fucking up his health for nothing

[@rokudodamaza]

​@@NTNG13You should look up what Steroids actually do to a human body, and also how he (the actor) looks now

[@thedarkestfateful]

"Thor playing second fiddle to others" is so true. At one point, Thor was the leader of the Avengers in the comics and its so sad how they completely devalue him in his own movie to prop up Valkyrie and Jane Foster. They even took his kingship away from him, so we never get to see him come around full circle to being the arrogant violent Prince to a mature battle hardened King of Asgard. SMH.

[@patrickday4206]

Yeah brutal feminism could you imagine doing this with female movies Jane Austin but we focus on a male make the woman a fool Yeah I'm sure women want to watch that😂😂😂

[@DONTworryIgotTHIS]

They didn't take his kingship away from him, he recognized that he's not the best person to lead his people and decided to give it away so he could better help in other ways that better suited his strengths (mostly just punching people in the face)

[@thedarkestfateful]

@@DONTworryIgotTHIS yeah exactly. Thor's character devolved to "punching people in the face".

[@melt6894]

@@DONTworryIgotTHISyes that is the problem. It reduces Thor to a simple brawler. Not a man who needed to grow into the leader that was the focus of his entire character arc in previous Thors. The whole Asguard is a people not a place and ragnarok was Thor realizing he needed to find his place as a king and not a smashing hammer for his father, because Odin was never going to be around forever. I mean the entire point of the intro of Ragnarok wasn’t just to show Thor and his hammer, but to show how carefree he was because he believed he would always be there and Odin would always be king.

[@DONTworryIgotTHIS]

@@melt6894 In what other movies was Thor a leader? In the first one he's an arrogant dick, in the second one he's off pacifying the nine realms and then dealing with the dark elves, and in the third one he's off investigating the visions he had regarding the infinity stones and only comes back for a hot second after killing sutur after which he's kicked to Sakar and is gone until the last third of the movie. Then we get to infinity war where most of his people are killed by Thanos and then in endgame he's once again he's taken a huge step back. At no point during his run in the entire MCU do we ever see Thor being an actual leader or king nor any real inclination to step into that role.

[@gamingshawnandjewel6233]

Spider-Man nwh ending was brilliant the way he sacrificed his relationships with MJ and Ned so they could enjoy their lives without the burden of being close to a superhero…shows true growth and maturity. Now that’s how you make a superhero movie..

[@Roty24-f6s]

Same with wakanda forever.

[@rmartinez1993]

​@@Roty24-f6s ????

[@findfefito]

Just for them to throw all of that in the trash so they can bring Zenidya back in Spider Man 4 because she is popular on social media and dates Tom Holland in real life...

[@mirimarina6387]

​@@Roty24-f6s I'm sorry but no. Wakander forever had one of the dumbest third acts and resolutions I think marvel has ever put out. I would have preferred a generic cgi battle like the first but instead we had that mess. I know it has an ethnic cast and a sad story because of the main actor's passing but the film was nonsensical, the characters varied from good to massacred and the plot was too riddled with inconsistencies and plot blackholes to qualify as lazy.

[@avmail7097]

Garfield spider man should have sacrificed himself saving Zendaya (thus redeeming his gwen stacy failure), and Toby Spider should have died saving willem defoe from his goblin, with osborne promising to be a hero to the city now that toby spider is dead. that would have closed the books on those arcs in a nice way.

[@arminhammerr]

Willem Dafoe is such a great actor man. He goes 100% whether it’s a Lars von trier movie or a spiderman nostalgia flick.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Ok

[@enriquedossantos3283]

yep, hes there to make all other actors look bad, especially the young ones

[@Trumpisscum-420]

He's a freaking legend.

[@zeriel9148]

Once upon a time that's just what all actors did.

[@BoleDaPole]

Willem Dafoe is good at one thing, and that's acting like Willem Dafoe

[@Kubinda12345]

What I really dislike about these movies is that there are no consequences for anything. In started in Endgame where the consequences of the Snap were barely mentioned and it continued into the following phases. Like you've said, e.g. The Eternals ended with an enormous petrified statue of an Eternal in the middle of an ocean and another giant Eternal whose head is as big as our planet checking on Earth and disappearing. And the only mention of these world shaking events was an easter egg in She-Hulk...

[@mozax8118]

The fact that Evans, Hemsworth and Johansson said that they aren't interested in joining the MCU unless they did something different with the characters pretty much says a lot. Also I would LOVE for you to do a review on Extraction. It's a special ops movie and the main protagonist is played by Chris Hemsworth.

[@Kingrich_777]

@SNiterI like Anthony in Altered Carbon though.

[@felixfungle-bung4688]

​@@Kingrich_777 he was good everything else was terrible, specifically the art direction.

[@Laxhoop]

My friend is OBSESSED with Eternals. He goes on a massive rant whenever it’s brought up. He cannot get over how bad it is.

[@TheMovieCynic]

You had me in the first half I’m not gonna lie 😂

[@Kez444]

When I learned it was a bee that triggered her whole tragic backstory, I laughed hysterically in the theater for 5 straight minutes while my older sister looked at me like I was a mad man

[@ReysonFox]

Ikr it was the dumbest thing. Ironman's parents killed, Cap frozen for decades lost his history, thor lost like everything to his homeworld. Oh ...lost her family cause of a bee and got triggered...Cool! 😂

[@ftwnoobbuster]

Lmaooo faxxx

[@RealogOnlyBrodie]

I thought you were talking about Amber Heard until I remembered MoM.

[@Kez444]

@@RealogOnlyBrodie damn you're not wrong, that's hilarious

[@agusputraemassihombing6303]

@@RealogOnlyBrodie my dog step on a bee

[@Chococodile]

Guardians vol 3 was the only un tarnished phase 4/5 mcu movie and the only mcu film in recent time I had been remotely excited for considering how much I love the first 2.

[@LaEmporoar]

Didn't like no way home?

[@LaEmporoar]

Although i agree guardians 3 is great

[@mahino420]

what happened to Taika Waititi is that he made a funny movie but wasn't so confident to add his brand of humor so he sprinkled a little bit of it, it worked because it was moderate, he get confident and starts spraying his humor in a big quantity in every scene, this is what being over confident and lazy does to a mofo

[@gistar22]

he also fire the scenarist

[@idiot_city5444]

He's legitimately insufferable in a lot of interviews

[@squirrelsyrup1921]

anti white

[@trautsj]

Thor's "What more could I lose" speech in Infinity War with Rocket is some of the best shit the MCU has ever written. It's utterly brilliant. And to think they are capable of THAT, and yet we get soooo much shit that is well... what makes up the actual BULK of the entire MCU. Astonishing.

[@mr.raphael1507]

Well the writers took that line too seriously and robbed him of the last thing he could lose: being in a good film

[@mistake1197]

Probably due to producer shenanigans behind the scenes. There's no way someone genuinely falls off that hard.

[@BigBossZUCO]

The scene with his mother is great too.

[@AdamCupplesAdamAtWork]

One of my favourite things in that scene is when rocket replies quietly saying “me personally I could lose a lot” and at first it comes across as a normal rocket sarcastic reply but it hits so hard after the end of the movie where he loses literally everyone he loves

[@coconutcore]

Andrew Garfield’s MJ save made me cry. That’s saying something. They had the advantage of playing off an incredibly emotional scene that was already masterfully executed, and yet that didn’t make it cheap. It hit so hard. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

[@TheZoobZoobs]

Pretty sure you would have given Shang Chi a B or B+ if the plot hadn't ended up with fighting a world ending dragon and instead focused on Shang Chi's fight with his dad. When he beat his father, that should have been the conclusion of the movie.

[@Darkvalentine333]

I still enjoyed it, though. Like, it's a solid, fun movie with good action.

[@kingt0295]

@@Darkvalentine333for sure. Aside from awkwafina I thought the movie was quite good.

[@Lechuga1815]

To be fair, the way Gorr got the Necrosword in the comics was pretty contrived to. He literally is just standing there between a battle between Knull and a celestial when Knull loses the weapon and Thor kills the celestial. Also, it's not made obvious in Thor but because of the Necrosword, Gorr gains the power of every god that he kills so in the scene where he overpowers Thor is actually comic accurate, it's just not made obvious.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

If it takes a comic to explain it, it's not accurate. It makes no sense in film, then it makes no sense.

[@Lechuga1815]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry I think it obvious in context that the sword either is giving him power or he’s taking power. It doesn’t have to be outright stated in dialogue to be a true fact of this universe which is actually the point I was making. I was just explaining that it was an issue explained in the context of the movie that was expanded on in the comic. Not to mention the point that the show had an arguably better introduction to the sword than the comic. I’m not arguing anyone to read the comic. I’m saying the movie did it better and it’s not a big mistake if you think about it.

[@joshuacrowell1614]

@@JoshuaKevinPerryexactly, if these movies aren’t trying to be comic book accurate, they can’t rely on the comics to fill in the blanks

[@7spidersofhh]

thats the main thing ive noticed, many of the plot contrivances were shit that literally happened in the comics

[@toobig7150]

i never understood why writers cant come with a good "casuality" way to explain things. If you set up something that "makes sure" things go the way they will go as a sort of "base law" and wrinkle stuff in a way that makes sense no one mind and some even praise that. (see berserk, the final empire, stormlight, the wheel of time, Halo, DUNE, and many many more) yeah some still say its just "convenient plot devices" but a good writer can still twist it on a way that its fun to see it unravel, its like that intro scene on Lord of War where you see how a bullet makes his way around the world into a gun. idk man, it always seem lazy to me, make the necro sword move into "people who hate gods" or something, not just.. there, sitting on the damn dirt with a god that knows what that sword can do.

[@mjgasiecki]

The problem for me who is not a comic book guy at all is that I can’t understand how all these movies fit together. For an outsider, the first three phases blended fairly well. I can’t even tell how the eternals will effect the next phases.

[@shikniwho7215]

it probably because most director and writer in phase 4 don't care about the source material nor even seem to care much about what they directing, like we have She-Hulk lead writer just say she doesn't know how to write court room's drama.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

As a comic book guy I don't know how all the movies fit together either. One of the problems with this phase is that they moving further and further away from the source material and trying to do things their own way. And even when they try to stay close to the source material (Love and Thunder and She-Hulk) they still screw it up. I love She-Hulk and it still pisses me off how bad that show was. Another problem is that they're using characters that are new and/or have never been very popular. There are decades of Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther, etc stories to look back on to get an idea of how to write the character in an interesting way. America Chavez, the Eternals, Captain Marvel and Riri Williams though? No. There aren't an classic stories featuring those characters to look at to see what works. America Chavez's solo book is in the running for the worst comic series of all time. I've been reading comics for over 30 years and I sometimes forget the Eternals exist. When Carol Danvers became Captain Marvel she became incredibly unlikable and boring. Riri Williams was despised from the moment she was introduced. Despite all the these are the characters Marvel is trying to feature now. Is it any wonder the movies aren't as good?

[@GholaTleilaxu]

We used to call it "milking the cow" but now they have gone way past milking the cow, they have sucked the cow dry of all its blood and are starting to gnaw at her bones. Soon there will be nothing left of the cow but dust, that they will also sniff to get high.

[@GBEWgw2]

​@@shikniwho7215 What do you mean. She hulk is both hated as fuck but also the most true to comic adaptation marvel has made so far. You're just a salty fan that actually has zero idea of what they did in the comics. In the comics bro, there would be a ten chapter fight between spiderman and the goblin, but after that was all done there's be some dumbass chapter about how peter needs to help aunt may go to the grocery store and fight count chocula.

[@SASchofield52]

Did you notice how BOTH Benedict Cumberbatch and Chris Hemsworth gave similar responses in interviews regarding their characters portrayal - That is to say, it is heavily implied by both of them that the film is bloated with characters, robbing the titular character of their presense and progression? I found both films were exactly that - Bloated, without direction, bait-n-switch movies, which had both characters regress in skill and personality... How many times does Thor have to learn the same life lessons for example?

[@SuperSky9]

Scarlet Johnson's Double Agent "Black Widow" was SO GOOD she worked for and against Disney

[@enomiellanidrac9137]

It’s incredible how the “great power” line have been associated with uncle Ben since the first movie and now they even got aunt may to say it while in the comics it’s the narrator that delivers the line.

[@KaseyC.]

Hasn't that changed to being Uncle Ben with how many times Marvel has reset the comics? I know the original wasn't Ben, and that he, like, had a single panel then died off screen or whatever, but I don't read the comics

[@enomiellanidrac9137]

@@KaseyC. Although the story have been retold a few in the comics time and the line have been retroactively associated with uncle Ben in a time travel shenanigan story, Marvel actually never reset the timeline of it's comics. There is the Ultimate version that coexisted with the main universe for some time, but this was an alternate version and not a reset. It's DC which have done so multiple time with Crisis on infinite Earths, flash Point and in other story. This participate to the bloating and inconsistency of Marvel's lore, they can't abandon their flagship characters, but it's hard to told new story when they've existed in the same continuity since the 70's.

[@batooo]

Yeah i like to think thats a element to every spider-man. A lesson need to be learned.

[@Capnsensible80]

Well yeah, the movies don't have a narrator so if you want something said, a character has to say it...

[@JinTheAceStar]

@@Capnsensible80 yeah movies never have narration,🤦‍♂️

[@ethankaufman4173]

Honestly don’t think I’ll ever get sick of these long video essays trashing Phase 4

[@donquixote2072]

I guess you just like a detailed autopsy.

[@ErinJeanette]

Same they're hilarious every single time

[@cactusmalone]

There is literally so much garbage in each of these projects that the market of reviewers cannot be saturated, everyone notices an entirely unique set of 1000 problems per viewing

[@CataclysmDM]

Oh, and also... I don't really consider Spider-man: No way home as a Disney MCU movie. I feel like Sony actually had a lot more control of that project.

[@rifatbobos]

It definitely feels like a Sony movie than a Marvel one. It also really respected the foundation and characters that the previous Spider-Man movies has built, unlike ones like Multiverse of Madness or Love and Thunder

[@jesustapped]

You guys are defending a studio that put out TASM2, Morbius and Venom: Let There Be Carnage, huh?

[@Gigabarto]

@@jesustapped better that than phase 4

[@jesustapped]

@@Gigabarto That's subjective.

[@silver2therescue1]

@@jesustapped it's not about defending Sony as a studio, it's about Sony making a good movie at a time when Disney isn't making any good movies. No one's denying the other Sony movies are bad or that other Disney movies are good. It's just that at this current time Disney's putting out crap and Sony had the only saving grace for the MCU

[@VideoGamePlayer-ul3ix]

The doctor strange movie was actually the FIRST movie I watched blind and thought, "Well, that was awful."

[@jorgeortiz4485]

I liked it overall, but the movie was only tolerable because the principal actors Benedict Cumberbatch and Elizabeth Olsen are both talented enough to keep you minimally interested. Doctor Strange and Wanda Maximoff are both two of the more interesting and powerful Avengers, yet somehow terrible writing ruined such potential

[@babayaga7842]

?

[@supermodestmouse]

The best part of Spidey nwh was that it was so self aware. They knew what the memes were, they knew what the meta was and they leaned into it. But they still had reference for the characters that came earlier. They didn't just dump all over them for a quick, cheap laugh.

[@ez6888]

Except they did. Everything about that movie was cheap

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

​@@ez6888Yeah, but, it was fun in the way Death Race 2000 is fun. The car chases look ridiculously cheap, the jokes were groan-inducing, and you can tell the director was hoping that people would just be satisfied with the naked ladies, but at least the movie has car chases, naked ladies, and jokes.

[@ez6888]

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Car chases, naked ladies, and jokes has never been enough for me. Not in 2000 and not in 2023. That isn’t worth my time nor money to watch it. My standards require more on the storytelling side of things. I think people, who otherwise hold valid complaints about the quality of Marvel movies, are making an exception for NWH despite the fact it is the same quality as all the rest of the products released. It’s a clear bias that undermines the whole argument; almost like everything is fine as long it’s your favorite character (Spiderman) that does cheap thing. It’s leaves me to wonder if quality of the product is actually the real complaint and if the people who contest these types of critiques are right about some of y’all. It just sometimes seems like there’s a hidden rule underneath that determines whether or not you’ll actually critique something honestly.

[@randomcharacter6501]

Imo that's almost the worst part of it. Thor 4 was almost all leaning into self awareness and its bad. It's not good just because a character I love is doing it...

[@petriew2018]

i'd say the good thing about NWH was that it wasn't trying to be an MCU movie. By that i mean Raimi had no interest in just being the next 'chapter' in Disney's shitshow, so nothing in that movie was there to setup the new movie. It had a story to tell and it focused on what was important to that story, which was primarily and pretty much only about the personal journey of Spiderman A lot of other parts of the movie suffered from this focus, there's no denying that, but i think Raimi went into that movie knowing what he did and did not care about.

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

I'm suddenly now wondering why Wanda never got a third eye from using the Darkhold for so long while Strange got it after like one use?

[@ameyskulkarni]

Shhh don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for the next product

[@tsuumee4545]

The magic/consequences in the mcu seems so inconsistent (I say “seems” because they don’t even tell us the rules.)

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

​@@ameyskulkarni God I love RedLetterMedia.

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

@@tsuumee4545 True, but at least that's not as bad as the multiple different contradictory and plot-hole ridden multiverse explanations they have laid out so far...or not _quite_ as bad.

[@kevinarnold8634]

It may be related to Dr. Strange being a solely magic based character while the Scarlet Witch is a mutant with a host of other aspects beyond just that. That explanation may not have been considered by the movie makers, but is at least feasible.

[@HercuLync]

Awkafina being miscast in everything because she shouldn't be in anything is spot on.

[@thedestroyer2alltrolls411]

Awkafina? More like Awkwardfina.

[@Shome2049]

Worst actress. There are better Asian actresses who deserve.

[@QueenIrene4382]

Me scrolling until I can find this 😂 there are so many great Asian comedians and yet... we keep getting HER

[@smallestgoober9399]

More like, Aquafina.

[@JRMagro]

She was decent in crazy rich Asians, and ever since, has been put in everything possible as comedic relief. It's awful 😖 little mermaid was decent until I heard her voice as scuttle 🫥

[@AHersheyHere]

The idea that in a multiverse, the idea there is only ONE of a person is the antithesis of that multiverse.

[@imjayanthkumar]

They were going for a Jason Bourne styled regret and guilt route with Black Widow, but Drekov and his daughter being alive fucked it up. They should have made a grounded spy thriller with minimal CGI and it should have ended with Black Widow apologizing to Drekov's wife about killing her daughter. That would have been great.

[@alsmith9853]

That would have been a better way for sure. I kinda loathed her "dad and sister" characters though

[@InfernosReaper]

Think they were trying for Winter Soldier without understanding what made that work

[@Davidsworldtravels]

The whole point of the different types of characters is to show different types of stories. BW should have absolutely been their version of Bourne and for a short time I thought that’s where they were going. But it became so cringy with forced comedy and terrible action scenes that it’s impossible to take seriously. When they started flying to the Red Room that was hidden in the clouds I actually started laughing out loud at how bad it had gotten. There’s not even a satisfactory ending. BW just basically says ttyl to her sis and awkwardly backs away.

[@urtiz]

Isn't it just poetic how the 3 villains who've died in the previous Spider-Man films are the ones who've reprised their roles in-person in NWH? It really hammers in that message about giving them a "second chance"!

[@RealogOnlyBrodie]

My sister thought John Cena played Sandman and I almost kms

[@akmalrusydi2730]

@@RealogOnlyBrodie lmaoooo 🤣🤣🤣

[@isosk1229]

That's one of the plot points in the movie. They realize that they all die if they don't get that second chance

[@Stereo6400]

i wasn’t an mcu fan, i was an mcu kid. i grew up with these movies, and some of my best memories are watching the og iron man and captain america movies with my dad. it was huge when a new one would come out, and me and my dad would go see it at the theater as soon as possible. it was like a holiday, a huge event to look forward to. watching the mcu fall apart now is like watching my childhood experiences back and wondering, “wait, surely it wasn’t ALWAYS this bad?” it’s almost the original audience is growing up and the movies aren’t. it’s watching a franchise that defined so much of your childhood, that you thought was peak cinema, stay stagnant and keep trying over and over and over again to do the same thing while everyone else moves on, including you. it really is the end of an era

[@Hdub8526]

You sound like Edward Norton specifically in fight club narrating the entire MCU

[@onmas909]

What's interesting is the scene with the Guardians in the ship in Thor was likely the funniest part of that movie. The fact it became less funny after they left is ironic

[@ABAgamer_]

“We’re taking all the funny with us to Vol. 3. Later, handsome man!” (Hooked on a Feeling starts playing as the Guardians leave Thor and Korg on the planet)

[@onmas909]

@@ABAgamer_ HAHAHAHA that's exactly what happened

[@alvaro.martinez]

I think it all comes down to this: Phases 1-3 were made by people who loved the comics and the characters. Phase 4 was made by people who couldn't give less fucks about the comics. It truly is as simple as that.

[@alphagamer9505]

That isn't true

[@KaseyC.]

@@alphagamer9505 Phases 1-3 still had Stan Lee. The only movie they could've possibly made without him was Captain Marvel, since Infinity War and End Game were made at the same time and he died in between Infinity War releasing and Captain Marvel. So, while each movie may have different director's or story writers, they still had Stan Lee's influence, while nothing in phase 4 did, just being whoever Marvel thought would bring in more money. It's safe to say that phase 4 creators do not care about the source material

[@alphagamer9505]

@@KaseyC. Wtf, all movies have stan lee influence because he created most characters dumbass, he wasn't the only guy who liked comics and he never did any of the movies, he just did cameos Also stan lee was in Captain marvel

[@MrREAPERsz]

Disney just has more control than ever. They're trying to milk every franchise they have dry.

[@gigihanmandarin]

It has become a platform for the creators to shove THE MESSAGE down the viewers' throat. Read that sentence with Drinker's voice.

[@MarvinPowell1]

The worst part about Multiverse of Madness, are ALL the ways Wanda's problems could've been solved AND all the ways Wanda could've been stopped. So much so, they became a meme. From Mister Fantastic tricking Black Bolt into telling Wanda how to find her kids, killing her with his voice, to Wanda just going to another universe where she died and her kids are orphaned, to her just staying in her world and making kids the old-fashioned way with some man, OR just living in her own fantasy bubble far away from other people. There's literally dozens of better ways that movie could've been written, but we got the worst version in the multiverse.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Dafoe is such a monster actor, the facial expressions, how is so convincing with the double personality of Green Goblin... it's impossible to judge, was he faking it to Aunt May, was that a relapse? THAT is good acting, something you rarely see on these themed parks. Holland and Garfield were also great, the movie is flawed with tons of plot holes, but I think it's by far the best MCU movie regarding the acting skills, Marisa Tomei final moments... it's so great, Spider-Man fans are eating well in the last 5 years or so

[@unemilifleur]

This video made me realize that I’ve missed a bunch of Marvel movies. I used to watch everything as soon as I could and love it all. I think the last one I saw is Dr Strange 2.

[@WestGarbage6]

If you haven't, you may want to check out Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, it's easily the best thing Marvel has made since Endgame, and is actually a great movie, with a good balance of comedy, emotion, story and action, last Marvel Movie I'll ever pay to see, from now on I just wait for them to come out on Disney+ in hopes they'll eventually make something decent.

[@CopiousDoinksLLC]

"The MCU is slowly but surely destroying its past in order to prop up its future" I feel like that statement is applicable to a lot of institutions these days, not just the MCU

[@steviekyme9153]

The thing with Far From Home is by bringing in Green Gobbie and Doc Ock you can still reuse them in the 'actual' timeline and it still feel new. They can do a Spiderman/Green Goblin film retell his origins differently and it still works and can be different as we know this universe is differnt and that is in fact cannon for this story. They have honoured the past and set up the future

[@bumpercarjoe6391]

“Stiffler level baffled” 🤣 I literally spit my drink and and had it shoot out my nose! GREAT EDIT!

[@tradesmanhelix]

Why even have Thor join up with the Guardians only to have him immediately leave? Such wasted potential, which really sums up Phase 4 😞

[@HighIntegritySkills]

combining 2 franchises into 1 movie = less money

[@MariusNinjai]

Guardians Of Galaxy 3 is probably my favourite adding Thor would make it more of a Thor movies than Gurdians

[@meraj5393]

​@@HighIntegritySkillsThey didn't even had to do that tho. Just make a thor story and make guardians side cast or vice versa

[@marcelprimes]

They original script for BP2 was rumored to be BP and his son having a father son journey. It would’ve been amazing.

[@johnrein4810]

What is bp

[@marcelprimes]

@@johnrein4810 black panther

[@dextynlabelle9326]

i wish Chadwick never died :(

[@Kubinda12345]

@@dextynlabelle9326They could've just recasted him

[@jeanukeeves]

I’ve seen this “movie” and I still said “WHAT?!?” out loud when I saw Thor gave the kids his power. Like huh?!? How come he didn’t do that with LITERALLY anybody else????

[@thekraken1909]

Because he didn't know the codeword was Kazam.

[@hudsond3943]

I got into a car crash while listening to this no joke.

[@Negatory5]

With dr strange, I heard that Nightmare was the original villain in mind, which would have made a lot more sense than Scarlet Witch.

[@Negatory5]

@@frenchdoseinthelab566 nah. In the comics, she had reality powers, and before that it was hex magic. The whole going to dreams thing was not part of her power set. Granted she got this magic from the dark hold, but this is kind of a reach to make her involved in the plot IMO. It’s not that’s she’s a woman, (nice assumption btw) it’s that they changed her character drastically in order for her to fit this story, which is something that the mcu does all the time. They altered the whole house of M event, minimized it, and then turned it into a woe is me for Wanda. At least in the comics she was manipulated by her brother to change reality, so she could at least have some sort of sympathy that she was used. Not so much in the mcu. The way they wrote her character was terrible. For some reason the mcu has been pretty terrible at writing straight up villains they always try to make the villains sympathetic in some way, which has honestly gotten old. They try to make us pity Wanda when she in fact is a monster. Yes she’s gone through some trauma, but it’s not excuse for her to kidnap and hurt others. In here she was used and manipulated by Agatha, sure, but felt no remorse for her actions afterwards. She was going to destroy realities in order to steal someone else’s children, to replace children that she never had. That’s a straight up evil and not someone to sympathize.

[@panduvandal]

​@@frenchdoseinthelab566 what

[@colin3424]

​@@Negatory5 nice essay nobody will read

[@flameron1]

@@frenchdoseinthelab566I think you’re lost 🤨

[@dmin5782]

​@@colin3424 I did. Maybe it's just me, but it isn't even long.

[@InfernosReaper]

Thinking about it, it would have been amazing if T'Challa had died because he volunteered for an experiment to try to recreate the Black Panther juice so that he would not be the last one. It *should* have been safe, but something went wrong and rather than pull the plug, he *insisted* Shuri finishes with the line. We shouldn't see it directly, but we could see her reaction and hen someone asks her what happened as she is clearly in shock, all she can do is she repeats his dying words, something roughly like "the mantle of Black Panther is more important one man" It's *similar* to how Chadwick sacrificed his health so that Marvel would actually have a major black superhero that actually got taken seriously enough by *the studio* and open the door for *other* black characters to get more prominence in the MCU. That would add his spirit to the story without merely copy-pasting his real life onto the character. Suddenly, T'Challa is gone, having made a noble sacrifice for the sake of the long term protection of Wakanda at the cost of leaving it somewhat vulnerable in the short term. There's a lot more character growth Shuri will undertake as a result, since it hits that much deeper, as she blames herself for the mishap, but at the same time knows she has to step up for Wakanda and to honor her brother. With good writing, Shuri could have moments where she doubts herself here and there, before she has that moment of realization that, yes, she really can be the champion her brother believed she could be do the Black Panther mantle justice and lead her people. Cliche, yes, but it is in the spirit of the comics.

[@busterbluesun]

Love and Thunder was also missing Loki, another reason I think it failed so badly. I really like the Thor/Loki dynamic.

[@serenity9260]

loki is dead in that timeline

[@reaperjane2180]

No Way Home causes way more problems than anything else. I enjoyed the movie--primarily due to Tobey and Andrew and the OG villains. Tom's Spidey is not actually Spiderman and has never faced a real villain on his own, forcing the movie to once again be centered around other more interesting characters. We gotta stop glossing over all the garbage created by the plot of this movie. It basically wrecks Dr. Strange and trivializes all the Masters of the Mystic Arts, their training, their purpose, and their intelligence. Dr. Strange would never have cast that spell in the first place. I'm gonna wrap it up there since there are far too many problems with this movie that only become more irritating with each viewing. Positive takeaway: I was thrilled to see Spiderman (2 of them!) on screen again. Best part for me 😊

[@quadkoos18]

Thor: Valkyrie:(beginning of the movie) "I need to fight so i can die in battle and go to Valhalla" (end of the movie): "I don't want to fight I might die"

[@romulus8525]

22:10 What's crazy to me is that such a huge opportunity was missed for a scene between Thor and Peter. With both of them having to deal with losing a loved one to cancer, and both choosing to run away from the issue. But whereas Peter had the Guardians to eventually help him come to terms with it, Thor has arguably no one to confide with or support him through losing Jane. The only time I can really remember Thor opening up and not being made fun of or being the butt of the joke was with Rocket in Infinity War. This movie was shot in both legs from the start with how Thor was handled in Endgame.

[@EddieNgatia]

Man I remember the build up to infinity war and the road to Endgame... what a time to be alive back then.... it was iconic....now the mighty have fallen. Tragic

[@_sandakin_]

i honestly think that the thing that helped the thor movies develop the most was loki's presence. thor 1? main villain, dies and gets brainwashed by thanos. thor 2? lowkey a hero, dies to save others. thor 3? redeems himself. infinity war? dies, thor becomes a now truly emotionally deep character who's suffered incredible loss. thor 4? not present. without loki, the character of thor doesn't have an opposite to keep him grounded and sensible. the movie goes off the rails. coinkidink? i think not! ...ooorrrrr maybe i'm just a massive loki simp who got incredibly pissed and sad when loki didn't somehow re-appear. or maybe both.

[@riahw3750]

I think my biggest problem with the giant celestial stick out of the ocean is how much that would've caused the water to rise and how many people that alone would've killed/displaced but like you said we hear no mention of that again? Wasn't displaced people a huge issue after endgame and in tfatws? Superheros causing the deaths of people was a huge issue in civil war but no mention of the celestial, the eternals, or any of the consequences of that movie at all since?? The only bullcrqp solution I can think of is druig maybe erasing everyone's memory but he'd have to be constantly controlling everyone's mind at all time?? It just makes no sense to me

[@KaseyC.]

I don't think Marvel really cares about setting up a story anymore. Before, it was one thing leading to another, the Avengers all get introduced, they meat up, joining forces to fight an enemy we've already been introduced to., Thanos being built upon for basically every single movie leading up to Infinity War, etc. Now it's a bunch of disconnected writers and directors trying to make their own individual movies instead of building an entire universe, the only real connection that I know of from the shows/movies I've watched (I haven't bothered with, like, half of them because who cares) is just Loki opens sorta the gateway into the Multiverse and Wanda makes fake children that show up again. A perfect example being Thor immediately ditching the Guardians to go do his own thing

[@Emanon...]

100% agree about Awkwafina. She is another example of seemingly failing upwards. I can't think of a single thing where I found her entertaining, funny or just good in the role.

[@joshuakolton9955]

Now you all know what it’s like to be a Star Wars fan

[@darko-man8549]

I loved Scarlet Witch killing everyone immediately, but then going non-lethally on the main cast.

[@OBSDCC7]

One thing of note regarding Doctor Strange 2: Wanda does not torture surviving sorcerers to get Wong to confess, she brings several corpses back from the dead, just to torture them

[@SanctumExE]

Andrew garfield was such an underrated gem as peter. His acting ability is amazing, had me crying when he saved mj.

[@archlinuxuser]

me too.

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

Do Americans really clap in the theatre?

[@Ironica82]

@@HRRRRRDRRRRR Yes. We do like to express our emotions while watching a movie with a group of people.

[@semuf2000]

@@HRRRRRDRRRRR yep, they do, it's enfuriating

[@tbuckyfilms]

​@@Ironica82That shit is corny

[@CellRus]

JUst rethink about Dr strange 2 makes my blood boil. On top of what you have already said, is the inconsistency in their power. One moment, Dr strange was using all these crazy creative spells, the next, he just seems to forget all of it. We deserve an actual proper Dr Strange fight, like what we see in Infinity War!

[@jrobertlysaght]

Black Widow and Thor love and thunder make me angry because they both had a lot of potential to be great, which makes it even worse when they fail. The problem with Black Widow is you teased Budapest since 2012. She talked about red in her ledger, and being haunted by her past. So you set Black Widow during the blip. You have that past heavily relate to when Barton recruited her rather than kill her, so we get heavy flashbacks Finally paying off Budapest She's the lead, with Barton a big secondary character kinda like She was in Winter Soldier to Steve Rogers. Heck the idea she killed her boss to get away, and in the (nearly) present his maimed daughter comes after her would have worked fine. I think that is what everyone wanted, if not expected. Not having anything to do with that story set them up for failure from the jump. Thor just needed to resolve it self to a dark story with Mighty Hulk and Gor storylines only. Gor was badass and serious as hell, and Natalie Portman's Thor tied to the hammer and it holding off the cancer would have been a solid storyline. Plus, for all we bitch about badly written female MCU, I found her figuring out how to be a superhero, with often the childlike enthusiasm we the audience would probably have if suddenly given powers, and even the dorky attempts at a catchphrase, were utterly charming. But Taika was poison to this movie, and utterly the wrong guy for the job. Also, after putting Thor through his arc, going through his PTSD, and finally going off to find out who he is, I would rather have never seen him again than seen him an utter buffoon.

[@kjbeast677]

The only positive thing I can say about Eternals is, if u want to desperately go to sleep, just put this film on and I can guarantee u will be out cold within the first 15 minutes

[@enoyna1001]

😂

[@EnxhioKotoni]

thats what I do with Black Adams. Ive been using this technique for the last 5 months and im 15 min in the movie

[@DredCthulhu]

Yeah, that cackling scene is probably the best thing to come out of MCU, what an awesome fight "Strong enough to have it all, to weak to take it!"

[@aaronorjohnson]

REALLY enjoyed this overview. Phase Four ended with No Way Home. Willem Dafoe's acting played a whole new but still insanely spot-on depiction of the Green Goblin. Great content!

[@MileHigHaynes]

You gotta love how the entire MCU Fan base that apparently used to "ditch" and "play hooky" just to watch a MCU movie is now saying that...An ENTIRE PHASE was just WEAK..in that case you can say ALL the MCU movies were WEAK or POOP cuz it hasn't changed the Directors are the same....A quality...The Casting Still an A...CGI...Storylines A A .....Sticking to actual stories from the Comics..using writers from the comic series...A A...So if DCU movies are lets say a D+/C-, then is MCU movies C/C+'s ???? Someone said "Superhero movie had its time and that time has past" So now what are good movies Oppenheimer and Barbie??? The Ummppteenth installment of Fast and Furious???.....The Expendables Pt Duh???......SAW The Origin Story???...I saw the Exorcist they made one girl black and of course one girl white????Oooooh spooky ......Supposed MCU Fans just complaining to get Likes....Man please name 5 Movies( Non MCU) that were better than Phase 4 movies....Please..Mortal Kombat????Blue Beetle.....FLASH???????STOP COMPLAINING AND Get READY for the KANG Dynasty...Because no time soon will We be SUPER excited about Star Wars Movies.....or DCU.....Or any other adaptation that we want to see on the BIG screen....Especially when we LIVe in a WORLD of REMAKES and REBOOTS....No original Ideas..MCU is the only Movies...TV shows Ideas that moving fwd and not just REBOOT Halloween or Insidious again.....What's next Live action Rick and Morty......Stranger Things The Movie: a whole new cast!! I will continue rant the more I hear this NONSENSE about MCU! Have A great day and repost this to other HATE mongering post....The Original MCU Fan Here till the end!! IM OUT!!

[@peteyd1984]

"Hi, one ticket to Wanda Maximoff in the Multiverse of Madness please." "It's actually Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness." "Is it though?"

[@Ammy-q4w]

Don't know why they just didn't call it Scarlet Witch and the Multiverse of Madness. Would've been a more accurate title.

[@connoc5078]

@@Ammy-q4w Because doctor strange was still one of the 3 main characters and the primary focus. Calling it scarlet witch and the multiverse of madness would not be more accurate.

[@platinumspike9578]

Pretty sure the reason Namor wanted to destroy the “vibranium detector” wasn’t because they were scared of being discovered, but scared that their home would be discovered. This would make sense why they attacked at a weird time. They don’t care that people know they exist, they just don’t want them to know where they exist. Or maybe I’m just stupid lmao

[@witnessfox3509]

That sounds like a solid reason, but then why did they twist the Wakanden's arm into finding the scanner instead of going themselves?

[@CataclysmDM]

I concur. Phase 4 has been utterly atrociously bad.

[@kaminsod4077]

Yet i still know people who not only payed to see this garbage in theaters, but actually like it. Even that shitshow Doctor Strange 2, it baffles me how supposedly intelligent adults can consume this slope and ask for seconds.

[@CataclysmDM]

@@kaminsod4077 Yeah I've stopped watching that crap in theaters. I just watch it after release through... other means. And I still feel like I paid too much! XD - That's time I'll never get back.

[@angeloalvarez5520]

Yeah marvel has fallen lol

[@MitsukisWife]

26:30 knowing about a place doesn’t mean that you know exactly where it is or how to go there. He still could have tied though. 28:34 no, that’s the ability of the thunderbolt. He probably knew because he was a huge fan of Zeus when he was younger. 30:18 grief and hatred can blind someone.

[@redtomatosauce7071]

I think the best project was shang chi, i missed having a fight movie that feels like a complete story that doesn't require anything outside of the movie for it to be understood. Also i just really liked the story itself and the fighting sequences they were very pleasant

[@avokka]

Little mcu, mostly a self contained movie. It's a very much a good film on its own

[@ZEREN_X]

Shang Chi was mid, C+ at best

[@andreasobermuller3044]

One thing you forgot in the Lady Sid scene is that she explains Thor, the god’s own religion to him.

[@joemiller5119]

Given how far downhill the MCU has gone, I wouldn't be surprised if everything else coming up gets canceled altogether and the franchise reboots.

[@olwandlethwala5473]

I agreed with the whole video except the Namor section, his character was the highlight of the film. Overall very good video

[@terrelldean988]

My only response is Riri being hyper intelligent doesn’t need an explanation, Tony Stark after Iron man 3 Tony made gigantic leaps in technological advancement and we just accepted it. Bro figured out time travel in a night lol

[@ShutThePuck]

This happens with almost everything that becomes wildly popular - decisions stop being made for the sake of quality, everything becomes about money, catering to as big of an audience as possible which always inevitably dilutes the end product.

[@ponygeorge7728]

its to destroy culturally significant IPs because clearly from the metrics they are going under and if making money was the goal then quality would be the end product.

[@aa-id7li]

The visual storytelling of Peter slowly having all of the gadgets and the nano suit and free Stark Tech over the course of the movie is just amazing and underappreciated.

[@mr_blue8208]

Great review. And thanks for saying that about (min 13:34) Black Widow and Cap Marvel… It’s pretty interesting that the one character called Marvel, bombed so hard. Lesson learned? As of now, after the success of Deadpool and Wolverine, we are still waiting to see.

[@danielskrivan6921]

I'll admit I didn't watch Eternals or any of the hype leading up to it. But is it possible that Angelina Jolie was told "You have to play up the diversity in interviews", so she was like "If I have to, let's take it to 11..."

[@jsum33]

In all fairness, Paul Rudd doing the Wanderlust mirror scene for 2 hours would be better than just about any movie.

[@swampfaye]

If there is a multiverse, isn't there one where Wanda is dead but the boys are alive? Why wasn't she going to that universe? WTF with Multiverse logic?

[@salsathemonkey22]

All the bad guys can just fuck off to universes where they win or universes without superheroes. The multiverse has obliterated stakes in storytelling

[@davidmendez174]

My biggest question is how the hell did Namora know where exactly shuri, Riri and okye were gonna be

[@Paul5013S]

To keep it consistent: No Way Home was literally just a fan service and nostalgia package. If that is the best Marvel can do these days, I wouldnt count that as a win

[@vinodraj1984]

Got to agree with you. First watch was super enjoyable. Second watch felt nothing. It's not even a good movie.

[@joscar062]

​@@vinodraj1984far more enjoyable, marvel is to blame for releasing mediocrity that any consumer will eat anything with their label on it

[@schizzo8959]

Memberberrries the movie.

[@fictiontheorizer4253]

I couldn't be bothered to watch it. Once I got some of the early plot points, I knew what it was going to be. Meaningless feel good fluff. I enjoy movies of that sort for sure, but not enough to get me to entertain Marvel or Sony again.

[@MariusNinjai]

Was asking my self are they gonna move on from the fan service and nostlgia stuff throught the movie but they never did

[@gahbahrge]

When Dafoe meets Holland in the finale and pulls off his helmet I couldn’t smile wider at how pure evil Gobby was. Osborn: Poor Peter, too weak……to send me home to die. Peter: I just want to kill you myself. Osborn: Atta boy 😈 F***ing electric performance by Willem

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

entire NWH Dafoe performance is literally his last ask to be casted as JOKER. he laughs, talks, behaves like Joker

[@thedestroyer2alltrolls411]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Because the Green Goblin is the Joker of the Marvel Universe.

[@Jamesthor]

I don’t know about all of you, but when I was watching the Black widow movie, I kept wondering whether or not she was gonna make it through. I was completely shocked by the ending.

[@BklynBabe]

Kinda like watching Titanic 😂

[@jerredwaits228]

Legitimately, thank you for that Smoke reference. It made me subscribe, no bs