Mean Girls Holds Up As The Greatest Comedy | Guilty Pleasures Ep. 114

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GUILTY PLEASURES
Comedians Zach Kornfeld, Kelsey Darragh, and Garrick Bernard take turns sharing their favorite guilty pleasure movies and TV shows to feel good about feeling guilty.
PODCAST DEPT
Executive Producer | Keith Habersberger
Executive Producer | Eugene Lee Yang
Executive Producer | Zach Kornfeld
Podcast Producer | Miles Bonsignore
Podcast Editor | Rainie Toll
MUSIC: Licensed from AudioNetwork
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[@0104brit]

When Cady says, "As much as I hate Regina, I still wanted her to like me" is literally the most ACCURATE sentence spoken about how you feel about a mean girl in high school. I love when Hollywood movies actually understand the dynamics in female friendships. This movie is a CLASSIC!!!!!! 😂🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@emmalovmusic]

Still accurate

[@Mocha_x_svt]

Well when you have an actual woman (under 50) writing it it helps lol

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Not only in High School! I've experienced this at work too. When your boss picks on you and singles you out regularly yet you still feel the need to get their approval.

[@IshtarNike]

I think part of it is that it's based on a relatively well researched book about cliques and bullying among middle school girls.

[@maeryls9136]

Kelsey sprinkling in a Mean Girls quote every 15 seconds is fucking SENDING me

[@tresorrose8734]

I really do believe that Janice said out load to someone I am lebanese and Regina over heard it and thought she said lesbian and just told everybody lol

[@kates7458]

no bc this!! it makes so much sense now i watched the movie a month ago & when she’s dancing w kevin g & she says she’s Lebanese i was like omg… it all makes sense

[@melissazegeer7130]

As a Lebanese girl myself. I ALWAYS thought this during the movie!

[@IshtarNike]

It's also the most kiddy thing to do. You don't know what Lebanon or Lebanese is/are, so you hear the closest word to it that you know. You then just repeat it like it makes sense.

[@kimmurphy6576]

I have a 14 year old son, and the amount of times I have told him and his friends “I’m not like other moms, I’m a cool mom.” Is obscene. 😂

[@PokhrajRoy.]

You’re so real for this. It’s fab 😂

[@DanieGrace]

My kids are only 6 and 8 and I'm sure it'll get worse as they get into their teens 🤣

[@hailey7368]

"Oh god honey no, what kind of mother do you think I am?? Why do you want a little bit? Because if you are going to drink I'd rather you do it inside the house."

[@alexare6655]

That by definition means you are not.

[@aschandarasekaran]

Did they get the reference

[@procrastelinaa]

I think it’s extra hilarious that they never mentioned that literally one of the other Trypods is a play on a quote from this movie 😂

[@whitneyhambrick7680]

They did at 28:31!

[@procrastelinaa]

@@whitneyhambrick7680LITERALLY HOW DID I NOT HEAR THIS THW FIRST GO AROUND. You a real one.

[@tresorrose8734]

I literally was like “KAREN” when they couldn’t think of it lol

[@MsVanessaSt]

I was like KAREN SMITH!!! Loo

[@cheesecakelasagna]

I sang her song from the musical to the screen as they fumble for so long!

[@eyeseajujubee]

I was drinking tea and almost did a spit take when Kelsey said “give a straight guy a role” 😂

[@Cosmo-Young]

I wholeheartedly believe that Mean Girls should be added to the Library of Congress for cultural impact

[@cheesecakelasagna]

I'd be shocked if they haven't already.

[@Cosmo-Young]

@@cheesecakelasagna they incredibly and sadly have not

[@evildoesnotsleep-x2b]

funniest thing is, NOBODY talks about the love interest. we're all here for Regina, Katy and the War of Influence

[@Mocha_x_svt]

I genuinely forget there is a love interest outside of the dark hair girl being kinda into Katy & Regina

[@lizberry509]

I thought I was going to blow an aneurysm with how long it took them to get Pedro Pascal. Never yelled so loud at a screen 😂

[@ericalove4876]

Miles yelling out "Herbieeeee" was the highlight of my day

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Same! That was my childhood Lohan movie.

[@mactaculer]

Hey Kelsey, the story you shared about Jimmy Fallon, Amy & Tina in the writers room at SNL is from Amy Poehler's book, "Yes Please". Tina didn't say it, Amy did. Tina & Amy met during their time together in Chicago with the The Groundlings. They were in a touring company together. And lastly, sorry for being the "Actually..." person.

[@liannekeemink9812]

Glad you said it! And to add: the quote about A,y is so good, but both Amy and Tina’s book are worth the read!

[@sarannspiegel4490]

at the beginning, you don’t understand why regina thinks janis is a lesbian, despite it being a focal point of the plot. and at the end when she tells kevin g she’s LEBANESE, it goes over so many heads. just another reason to bow to tina fey.

[@LiaRaye]

I always thought the point was Regina had become so self absorbed she assumed that because Janis felt neglected as a friend and voiced that, Regina defaulted to "she must be in love with me and therefore a lesbian". This is echoed by Cady towards the end "its not my fault you're in love with me or something" because Janis was mad Cady ditched her art show to throw a party instead. History repeated itself.

[@filetmignonpho]

the California outdoor high school experience truly felt so much different than the big scary cafeteria trope they show on screen lol

[@equiinom]

Only the Special Ed and free lunch kids stayed in my cafeteria, everyone else would eat in the open air halls or out on the quad. I only sat outside to eat in freshman year bc after that my friends and i ate in the Art classroom at the back of the school, quiet and indoors. 😂

[@Kristhegirl39]

Cause it took place in Illinois, not California

[@equiinom]

@@Kristhegirl39 yes we know that but Gerrick was talking about his experience during the episode so we are also commenting on it

[@MsVanessaSt]

I think it’s a miss to not talk about the homophobia toward lesbians. Being a lesbian was the worst possible thing a teen girl could be. And that could also be reflected of the sentiment of the early aughts but also Fey’s personal feelings. Watching this again as an adult who wasn’t out as a teen when I saw this I’m like, “ohhh this explains a lot about me and my mentality back then.” 😬 So it’s a full on guilty P for me but what a damn classic 🩷

[@Mocha_x_svt]

I hate when straight people speak on topics of the queer community they very really get it right out actually cover the nuances So I prefer them not to

[@mikaylacraghead9660]

"Give a straight man a role!" Im cackling!!

[@heyimsasa]

i’m glad you touched on the weird antiblack and anti asian racism. i watched this for the first time as an adult and it was an “it has its moments” movie to me cuz the way they portrayed vietnamese kids, esp with the weird pedo plot, was sooo uncomfortable. i don’t think unchecked racism, and by extension any -ism/phobia, is okay and fey writes a lot of that into her work which gives me the ick. but it also makes sense-she’s a rich straight white cis woman. she writes what she knows but i think she needs to stick to that because that’s her strength. leave the rest of us out of it pls 😂 i’m surprised it’s a guilty pleasure for kelsey cuz i fully expected her to go full pleasy on it! loved the episode 💖 also kelsey you should read “they both die in the end” by adam silvera. you’ll bawl your eyes your eyes out.

[@BoraIlgi]

Mean girls is a movie that got discussed and quoted so many times to the point that you don't actually need to watch it to know the whole plot. I never really watch it, but i know the whole plot and know which scenes you talked about just because i saw so many people discussed it and quoted it to this day. To say that this movie is a cultural phenomenon is an understatement

[@nicoled7559]

“This is my super bowl” as someone born on October 3rd i agree Kelsey😭😂

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Best summary of ‘Mean Girls’: “WE SHOULD ALL JUST STAB CAESAR!”

[@mikaylacraghead9660]

The amount of this podcast that is just quoting the movie is great

[@genevieved.2353]

The way I was screaming at my laptop, "PEDRO PASCAL!!!"

[@madelinerose8781]

I really hope you guys do White Chicks on Guilty Pleasures!!! I actually find myself quoting that movie more than Mean Girls!!!

[@waltz0153]

Yessss. I second this so baaad. That movie is a quintessential “guilty pleasure”

[@ItsBAndBees]

Yes!! White chicks is just as iconic to me as mean girls

[@kaylamcbride78]

White Chicks is PURE PLEASURE!!!!!

[@kaleyrose47]

The fact that I was already screaming “PEDRO PASCAL” immediately! 😂

[@tay2334]

LITERALLY

[@whitneyj9080]

When y'all were trying to remember Seyfried's character, I started singing the song: My name is Ka-aren, my hair is shi-iny ❤

[@cheesecakelasagna]

My perky heinie 👌

[@GiddyGarlic90]

I believe Tina says in the commentary that they wanted the line to be "masturbated with a FROZEN hot dog" which is just wild. Also, when they were arguing with the MPAA about the rating, the MPAA objected to the "heavy flow and a wide set vagina" line citing it was too sexually suggestive. Team Mean Girls countered with the scene from Anchorman where Will Farrell walks around the news office with a visible boner and called the MPAA sexist for rejecting a line about menstruation and human anatomy with no sexual connotation whatsoever while letting Will Farrell walk around with a boner in a PG-13 movie. Unsurprisingly, the MPAA caved.

[@rylenb.4827]

I’m only twenty minutes in so maybe they bring this up, but the accuracy of how teen girls bully is so well done. I’ve seen a lot of bully behavior in media and it’s very straightforward and like “give me your lunch money or I’ll beat you up”and I’m sure that does happen. It’s probably more accurate to how bullying was decades ago, but in my experience and the people around me’s experiences I’ve heard, more likely with girls rather than guys, it’s very passive aggressive. They act sweet but say things that are implicated and when you bring it up, they act dumb. It’s very calculated, but they pretend to be nice. And maybe that’s also a gender role thing where girls are taught to be lady like, but they find a way around it with subtle jabs at you and talking bad behind your back, very two faced. This is of course a generalization and every individual is different, but it’s a common theme that I’ve noticed. It reminds me of when I was a young girl in middle/high school and could tell someone was being mean to me, but I think i was too young to verbalize it and explain that type of meanness. It made me feel like it was all in my head.

[@Mocha_x_svt]

Actual gaslighting lol people use the word wrong all the time but teen girl bullying is gaslighting you into not saying anything because how can you even describe someone ruining your life with death by 1000 cuts

[@ItsBAndBees]

I agree so much!! I felt so bullied and gossiped about as a young teen, but it was never like those dumb jocks in movies. Guys were always nice to me, it was the girls that were awful and never in an incriminating way that any adult would care. Just heard him liken the girls to Moriarty and yes, middle/HS is psychological warfare more often than it’s being shoved over.

[@pixie9499]

fun fact! “regina’s” wig cost the producers over $10k & they treated the thing like royalty! she (rightfully) refused to lighten her hair that much so they had someone handmake her a wig from real human hair out of canada. 🤓🤪

[@Dapperhippie]

I feel Garrick on the high school story. It wasn't until years later I found out all the kids who would be on NHS and key club and varsity sports were also all partying together. I ran into a classmate years after school at a bar and they were legit surprised to see me. We never spoke, so I was surprised they even knew who I was. And they said they figured I was boring and nerdy and wouldnt come to 'places like this'. In actuality my childhood SUCKED and I did all my partying and going crazy in college, not even a good one lol I feel you man!

[@marisas9053]

“All bangers, all the time” - Garrick about Tina Fey’s writing through Kendall Roy about his birthday mix

[@emmaliehandley9090]

Y’all forgetting Freaky Friday (2003), Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen (also 2004), and Get a Clue (2002)!

[@kstrongtree22]

I LOVED Get a Clue! Thank you for bringing that up

[@emilyknutsson7234]

I think Regina truly saw Cady as a threat and tried to minimise her by inviting her into the plastics.

[@axelita29]

My favorite thing about this whole movie is the reason that Regina George started the lesbian rumor about Janice is because she misunderstood her saying that she is Lebanese

[@ambriaashley3383]

For me, it’s the fact that Tina Fey always doubles down on her problematic race jokes. She has a weird obsession with them 👀

[@MariaV4444]

Not them saying this is one of the most quotable movies ever and then just lightly messing up all the quotes just enough to make me upset lol

[@harmc2301]

I watched this movie admittedly extremely young (I was 3 the first time I saw it in 2004) and the way it’s stuck with me since is insane. The cast is FANTASTIC, the story is funny and told so well, and the iconic lines still hold to this day

[@DoNotDiztubia]

I’ve been waiting for mean girls to be featured on Guilty Pleasures!

[@RyanIsOnYoutube]

Think I need to have the crew look at 10 Things I Hate About You after all this love for Mean Girls!

[@Mocha_x_svt]

But its not guilty lol

[@deprecious2921]

I do wanna say they're forgetting that scene at the mall where Regina calls that girls mom and gets her in trouble

[@gigiloveyeah]

I love that Caty kept the sweaters even when she became a plastic but she made the color pastel and more fitted ❤

[@lucybw]

Please do Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen if you haven't already!!! Perfect for a potential Lindsay Lohan month

[@k.b.8941]

Please do Heathers, it's also an iconic high school movie that hits a lot of similar points 👀

[@ES.Evergreen]

"A documentary for reading" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 OMG KELSEY!!! WHAT!?!?!

[@MsVanessaSt]

Also how’d Kelsey not mention “Grool” when she made up the word at the end?!

[@StephanieLouise]

As a mom - I can't even explain how often I think of Regina's mom (because as a kid parents had no names even if they did) as a girl who graduated in 2007 from hs that I've come full circle to relate to every character now somehow. I've met Regina's mom. I've been some of the characters at different life stages. & I'll never stop quoting not because it's so iconic but because I genuinely think it has completely worked into my vernacular.

[@DanieGrace]

Was literally screaming "ITS FUCKING PEDRO PASCAL WHATS WRONG WITH YOU" 🤣🤣🤣

[@juliastewart1975]

You guys need to do a Meg Ryan month!

[@leah3801]

The shame that they never quoted "I did not leave the southside for this!"

[@kates7458]

okay so now that we’ve done mean girls… DO EASY A PLZZZZZZZ

[@lovelylauriie]

I'm so happy SOMEONE has finally mentioned Bossypants! I loved that book so much! 😊

[@geekyglobal7542]

Miles saying a name and Zach immediately saying the same name after when they were guessing IMDb stars made me want to scream at Zach (lovingly)

[@Brokenblinds95]

Love Garrick no budging on giving a hit at all!! Lol 😂🤣😂

[@sparkpark29]

You should do Cloudy with A Chance of Meatballs!! Love the podcasts, keep up the great work☺️

[@maryelizabeth1216]

Suzume!! Finally a rec I’ve heard of lmaoooo. Totally agree. I had the pleasure of seeing it in theaters and it was absolutely gorgeous and emotional. Makoto Shinkai is incredible ❤️

[@AdelaPondelickova]

I still cannot believe that this was not THE FIRST movie you covered, it's literally the most iconic movie ever!! Thank you guys, fully enjoyed ❤️🔥

[@hxpewxrld]

Probably because so many consider this movie as just a pleasure rather than a guilty pleasure

[@vennissedelgado7423]

Please do Easy A 🙏🏼

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Emma Stone month perhaps??

[@vennissedelgado7423]

⁠@@cheesecakelasagnaYESSS Easy A, La La Land (even though they hate lalaland haha) Crazy Stupid Love, Birdman, Superbad, etc. Missed opportunity i think to do Easy A during Tucci month

[@thekaochan]

Zach, thanks for bringing up Fey's blindspot with race. As an Asian person, it's hard to watch stuff she makes because she seems to love reusing the Asian slut trope and it's very tiring.

[@nandinivinta3951]

putting in a request for mean girls 2 as a return to the origins of this pod!

[@heydirle]

Zach flexing he was at the spillover cool table…. Meanwhile I ate alone 😭

[@ChanBingg]

me SCREAMING PEDRO PASCAL FOR TWO MINUTES

[@mandyhamelwright8419]

I needed this to be 2 hours longer

[@gigiloveyeah]

Cary’s pastel plaid skirt I forever want

[@andreamendoza7613]

We need to do a anime movie or show for Garrick and other weeb fans 😤🥺

[@StarlitGlitch]

I saw Suzume in theaters! I thought the story itself was fine, but the visuals were so stunning that I’d recommend watching even just for that

[@kilianalexander2736]

It's so wild to me that you guys are relating so much to this high school experience, mine could not have been farther from this

[@Chlorororor]

CAN YOU PLEASE DO AN EPISODE ON JUST FRIENDS WITH RYAN REYNOLDS!! It’s my family’s favorite movie. And we always are sure to watch it around the holidays. But also all the time!!!!!! Our favorite to quote!

[@SarahTheSassy71]

Don't forget LiLo was in Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen too!!

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Ive been trying to come up with a Lohan/LiLo alliteration but I'm having trouble. 😅 I need a LiLo month fr!

[@aunjaliepatel4174]

33:06 when Miles’ full Virgo comes out

[@emmaputt2183]

Just discovered how awesome this Podcast is. Loving every episode that i have watched and listened too so far.

[@CookieKing420]

Im here to confirm this is definitely theeeee most quotable movie because growing up my friends and i used to go back and forth with different quotes from this movie out of thin air til someone ran out of quotes and ofc i always won lol

[@niajanellee]

pleaseeee do “the blackening” !! it had me dying!

[@marieseaman7855]

Waited for Mean Girls all month!

[@robwilliamson5082]

Renee Rapp is also going to be playing Regina in the film adaptation of the musical

[@ianlee4565]

The musical is incredible and everyone needs to watch it or listen to the music (because I realize seeing shows is expensive :). ) "Sexy", which Karen sings solo, is one of the most hilarious songs ever--musical or otherwise--and all of the other songs are bangers too!

[@cielxo]

the way i CACKLED when kelsey went "give a straight guy the role!" god this episode has to be one of my favorites

[@jess-nv6lz]

It's so exhausting how often Kelsey interrupts Garrick. I feel we never get to him complete his thoughts and opinions which are so good for pointless tangents. It's so frustrating

[@ambriaashley3383]

I know 😢 they both interrupt him a lot

[@pinkbunnylover]

THIS IS THE EPISODE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

[@genee.m]

Y’all need to highlight some more women-led (starring/ written by/ directed by/ etc) comedies!!

[@monyx2926]

I just made the connection! LOL! The character is named after the singer/songwriter Janis Ian who wrote "At Seventeen," which is all about being an outsider in high school. Perfect!

[@TimeIsAnIllusionBCipher]

She doesn't even go here!!

[@svarakissoon1189]

what? me? early? glad to see people talking about this absolute classic

[@OneHart907]

I can't believe you guys didn't see/ mention that Mean Girls was based on a book Queen Bees & Wannabes where a researcher went to a high school and documented actual behavior of high school girls. I think that's one of the reasons this movie is so popular- it's not just hilarious but there's a heart of reality involved

[@alexisreve1]

That was one of the first things they talked about.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Literally the first thing they mentioned

[@claudia.e]

Saying this is based on a book is just so inaccurate. The book is fantastic, but it basically says "teenagers are awful and teenage girls can destroy the world if they want to" and Tina took off with that idea and created a master piece.

[@sarapowers8827]

I really was yelling people when yall were guessing the number 1 actor ha

[@karadung7313]

New drinking game, take a shot every time they make a Mean Girls reference. Youl'll be blackout drunk by the end of the episode.

[@gigiloveyeah]

My favorite line is “how do you” when Caty says in her head ❤

[@plutopepsi578]

I think Amanda seyfried is so good on this movie bc all her roles are so different her range is just incredible. And she was young when mean girls was filmed too and she was already able to become someone else.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

CORRECTION: It’s a Super Bowl especially during Pride Month.

[@mygirl737g2]

i have taught Calculus for 10 years and every year, about this time, we get to Limits and when the students finally understand why the limit doesn't exist they go, "Oh, Like in Mean Girls!" LOL

[@gigiloveyeah]

Mean girls forever in history and iconic ❤

[@equiinom]

I quote this movie all the time, i was in middle school when it came out and i remember watching it on vhs in the afterschool program (LOL) but as an autistic/adhd woman I get retraumatized every time i rewatch this movie 😂

[@ianlee4565]

And, going off how important this movie is to cultural references, I was in a club at my college and we all had nicknames. One of us was called Mean Girl because she worked at the college cafeteria before she was a student, but *everyone* thought she was our classmate, so she almost constantly had to tell people that she didn't even go to school with us, so once she finally did become a student and join our group, Mean Girl became the *obvious* choice for her name.

[@clumsyskelet0n]

Mean Girls was a definitive, iconic pop culture moment. There is pop culture before Mean Girls and after Mean Girls

[@1998rose]

Every time somebody gets a oat latte for health I feel like Regina’s boyfriend and I have to tell them that oat is just carbs

[@neivilde.1242]

i love that on the same day i got this notification i got a recommendation from youtube for gerrick's stand up

[@rebeccasteen]

Do LiLo month! ‐Parent Trap ‐Confessions of Teenage Drama Queen ‐Just My Luck ‐Freaky Friday Bonus episode - Life Size

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Just My Luck is so perfect for this podcast!!! Just the fact that the best Chris there is, Chris Pine, is in the movies should be enough, especially for Garrick!

[@rebeccasteen]

@@cheesecakelasagna Chris Pine is the best Chris. No question.

[@lisa-mariel4899]

I love Garrick for being an anime nerd ❤

[@hconf]

Zach hiding behind his chair 😅

[@malaikatinashe]

So did y'all watch the version where one of the asian girl calls another asian girl the n word? Maybe that version's not available anymore bc i know i've seen the censored version and she says "girlfriend, please" but tine was wild for that

[@sylvanianmole]

Tina Fey chose Jonathan Bennett as Aaron Samuels bc he reminded her of Jimmy Fallon and i think thats so sweet