Meat and climate change with Frank Mitloehner, PhD - Diet Doctor Podcast

[@saramorisani]

The Diet Doctor is an amazing interviewer of amazing guests.

[@midwestribeye7820]

Fantastic interview! Shared to my niece and her boyfriend. She just graduated from Texas A&M with her masters in animal agriculture and her boyfriend has his BS in forestry. She works at the feedlot and he studies the air quality at her feedlot. Their dream is to have a place like Polyface Farms some day.❤🐂

[@2btotallyliterate435]

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[@stuartwallace8061]

Thank you for this very valuable interview. Very much appreciated.

[@MarydToKeto]

I don't understand most of what u guys are talking about but I feel like I'm one step closer to starting to understand

[@didinx8417]

Try reading Sacred Cow by Robb Wolf.

[@eclecticcyclist]

Hang on in there, it's a complex world, but if you keep listening to interviews like this, things will become clearer with time.

[@makinandrew]

I've listened to a lot of information this last six months. Some of it I've only got on the fourth or fifth time around. It's one step at a time. These are big issues and we have a lot to learn.

[@juliakim7800]

One of the best interviews. So informative and based on facts. Thank you.

[@aquamarine99911]

The Eat Lancet report aspect is shocking. Just shocking. I try not to get into online fights with with those vegan zealots, but it really is a struggle. But my main takeway from this excellent podcast - we all have to cut down on air travel.

[@RealMonoid]

The guy needs to write a book. I'd love to have some in depth information on the subject.

[@Morningdovecamp]

Excellent guest and interview as usual. Thank you for this extremely important education! Great questions Dr. Sher 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@naomiklahn9065]

I would love to see the video of the debate on #EATLancet!

[@eclecticcyclist]

So would many people. Here's a link to Georgia Ede's analysis of #EAT Lancet kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJzRe2Wsd9p6p68

[@ledenhimeganidleshitz144]

Properly managed heards of ruminents are essential in maintaining and restoring grasslands. See Allen Savory found on any search engine. The desert/grassland problem is a major contributor. Why is this not discussed?

[@naturelady6750]

Awesome interview

[@joyceelmer131]

Thank you so much for this broadcast 💕

[@mrbb]

You said "small farms that sell at the farmer's market ... are totally unsustainable". Would you include a farm like White Oak Pastures in that? They sell direct to consumers? Are they totally unsustainable?

[@mortezaariana1444]

amazing eye opening information

[@howardhill3395]

i would have liked to hear more discussion about the importance of topsoil, and what contributes to healthy topsoil and what takes away from it.

[@kevanhess2105]

You Should have millions of subscribers ???????.Great truthfull lesson.

[@johnmadany9829]

Excellent interview! In his book “From Dirt to Soil“ Gabe Brown describes how he is able to do a Regenerative Agriculture at scale.

[@magma9138]

This was excellent. I believe more urban dwellers will soon be returning to rural homesteads and farms, particularly in light of the Plannedemic, to support and feed themselves and their local communities. I value local and support those indie farmers in my community. Been thinking about it myself because I can't keep goats and chickens on a balcony...lol....

[@rockietinker7572]

Sound volume is low

[@saramorisani]

Volume just fine to me

[@MrsPorseleintje]

@@saramorisani Not when you are listen it on your phone and you can not put it harder then you already did.

[@xiaoguangye5316]

great guest, especially regarding farmers. It is vastly unfair! We should definitely pay a little more for high quality food.

[@naomiklahn9065]

Has anyone compared the use of tractors and diesel pumps etc on plant-based farms to cattle farms?

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

yes they should

[@Christine-xs2of]

Amazing interview. Thank you.

[@tomenagel6645]

It would be interesting to know which diet cause humans to emit the most methane gas. Vegan, keto or carnivore.

[@clintonhurst7810]

Tom, without a doubt! Vegan. I spent 7 yrs eating a “Whole foods plant based diet” and as such was most definitely a fart producing son of a gun!

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

​@@clintonhurst7810 lol

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

interesting question

[@mrbb]

You didn't include water vapour in the list of greenhouse gases? Water vapour has the same physical greenhouse gas properties as the ones you listed? Is there a valid reason not to include it? Shouldn't you at least mention that in a discussion like this? You said "by far the number one abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is CO2", but that is not true. By far the most abundant is water vapour.

[@mrbb]

Malcolm sargeant the language and statements he used are still incorrect. He is giving a definition of greenhouse effect, and supposedly discussing the nuances of green house gases. Therefore it should have been noted in a discussion like this that water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

[@makinandrew]

I would guess that it's because, like methane, water is a constant cycle. I hadn't heard that water vapour is a greenhouse gas, but even if warming puts more water vapour into the atmosphere on the short / medium term, it will still eventually be released as rain so I suspect it's a zero sum. But don't quote me!

[@kwongheng]

Does the argument against meat use water vapour as a green house gas? I assume not and perhaps that is why is not mentioned since most if not all anti-meat message talks about CO2 and CH4 and not water vapour

[@artblackwood7936]

Thank you for all you do. Question; If the carbon emission from livestock is a recycling system, why would the number of animals change the net result? Seems to me that it would be the same no matter how few or many animals there are.

[@kwongheng]

That's because there will be additional methane release over 10 year cycle and methane is known to be a more potent green house gas

[@seanfrank4158]

I hate to say it but if they make food more expensive then all that will do is drive people towards cheaper alternatives. Food costs are huge right now even for families that are well off. If you disturb that in an upward trend then more people will be forced to rely on highly processed cheaper foods which would worsen the obesity epidemic.

[@marvinnelson5073]

With well managed ruminant production, organic material in the soil increases, taking carbon from the soil. Over grazing and erosion can cause loss. The normal thing in crop production, particularly vegetables, is a reduction in soil carbon, and thus an overall increase in atmospheric carbon. Crop production is trying to get to where the so8l carbon is not lost, and some with no-till systems seem to raise soil carbon from where it has been depleted, but I am not aware of crop production that can get soil carbon to the levels under grazing management. Of course there are inputs of various amounts based on fossil fuels. Here again grazing tends to use fewer fossil inputs than crop production. Meat would beat lettuce hands down. Why aren’t the save the planet people starting with lettuce?

[@megbovell5392]

I love these videos My favorite Doctor 😊😊😊😊

[@zerocarbdoc]

Amazing Interview! Not the popular opinion right now but honest and true!

[@annnnn9074]

I would have thought that water is the largest global warming gas

[@eclecticcyclist]

But water has been on the earth for millennia, and the levels in the atmosphere is not changing significantly. Like methane and agriculture, it's a loop.

[@mrbb]

Do you think that CO2 has not been on the earth for millennia? Compared to the earth's history, current levels of CO2 are still at the low end of the range, even after the recent increase due to the use of fossil fuels. Please do some more research.

[@angiesrecipes]

Such a great interview!

[@vpfund]

Has anyone done an analysis of how much greenhouse gas is created by vegans needing supplements to have an adequate diet?

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

it is a huge agenda. will not hear very soon till we see veganism rise to some point to show us data

[@markpettus6929]

Fantastic interview Brett ! You and Dr. Mitloehner beautifully covered the many nuances of this topic!

[@rogeliodelascasas8860]

This is an amazing video, one of the best that you have prepared. I am carnivore and this video will help me with my Damian’s friend, some of them are vegan

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

being a vegetarian why I support omnivores today is because they reflect on food supply and solutions closest to mother nature such as regenerative Ag

[@mlbf4700]

I know cows use a decent number of resources before slaughter, but certainly so do processed foods with many ingredients being shipped across the country which uses fossil fuels. I'm in TX and it seems eating a cow from my area can't be any worse than eating a bag of chex mix from the store from an environmental view.

[@robertolney6390]

Wouldn't it make more sense to talk about the global heat balance rather than global warming?

[@kathy7664]

Why isn’t this more viewed??? He is great. I wonder if Ukraine issues will make people pay attention.

[@grantw7946]

Mass balance. What % of the carbon removed via CO2 is returned as CH4 through belching? Is there a net reduction in heat trapping if CH4 is released as opposed to the CO2 that was removed in plant matter to grow a cow? How many plant CO2 = CH4 belches + yummy COW amino acids?

[@meathead365]

Gold

[@autopeep24]

Lancet is just a political medical journal. Evidence and their bias towards veganism and also their recent retractions on hydroxychloroquine not being a good drug for coved19.

[@AnimaLibera]

What are you referring to? I thought I heard them talk about the "EAT LANCET" agenda which has nothing to do with the medical journal.

[@autopeep24]

@@AnimaLibera wrong, they are directly correlated do your due diligence.

[@wmartonejr]

HyperClips HyperCharts worth you’re time relative to environmental impact of eating ruminant meat.

[@joebotz1243]

One has nothing to do with the other ruminants repair the Earth

[@quackhouseproductions5572]

Just spent 1 1/2 hours watching debunking videos on this guy. All vegans telling me he’s a fully paid up meat industry shill that cherry picks his data.

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

I think vegan activism is being heavily supported by many filthy rich today in the name of fake food industry.

[@locoemutwo4872]

difficult to hear.

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

Carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. It doesn't affect temperature. Spending money to limit carbon dioxide to "reduce global warming" is a waste because carbon dioxide is not part of the problem, if there is even a problem.

[@Sikander_37]

Actually, the carbon dioxide which is from fossil fuel is dangerous. Fossil fuels are carbons that were trapped beneath the earth's surface for millions of years and were never a part of Earth's atmosphere. It is this carbon that is released at a fast rate into the atmosphere and causes climate change. The carbon released by animals and plants are a part of the natural cycle and are not the criminal. But today vegans together with their biased science criminalise the livestock for achieving their interests.

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

@@Sikander_37, you said: "Actually, the carbon dioxide which is from fossil fuel is dangerous. Fossil fuels are carbons that were trapped beneath the earth's surface for millions of years and were never a part of Earth's atmosphere. It is this carbon that is released at a fast rate into the atmosphere and causes climate change." Who told you that? That is complete nonsense! The only part of that which is correct is fossil fuels are carbon trapped in the ground for millions of years. Carbon dioxide is CO2, or one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms. It doesn't matter whether it is formed by burning fuel, decaying organic material, your respiratory system, or oxidizing methane! I've probably provided an incomplete list, but you get the idea, all CO2 is the same. The rate at which CO2 collects in the atmosphere is not relevant. Plants will die if the CO2 available to them drops below roughly 150 ppm. By that level, CO2 has done almost all of the warming it is capable of doing. There is a chance the calculations are correct and for every doubling of CO2, you get a unit increase in temperature. That gives a curve that rises steeply near zero, then flattens rapidly. However, there are many factors that determine climate change and the notion that CO2 is the "control knob" is just laughable. Geologists using cores taken from the ocean floor have estimated atmospheric CO2 and temperature. This is one result: www.biocab.org/Geological_Timescale.jpg The purple line is CO2 and the blue line is temperature. I'm sure you can see at a glance there is not even correlation between CO2 and temperature. When there is no correlation, there is no causation. CO2 does not drive temperature. You may also note from the graph that we are in a very cool period of earth's history and since there is ice at both poles, it is clear we are still in the current ice age. You may expect either warming or cooling to continue as it has for the last 1.6 million years. You may notice that peak temperature was roughly 55 million years ago and it has not been nearly as warm since! There is another graph, which I don't seem to have a link to at the moment, which shows CO2 in the Precambrian being around 6,000 ppm, and by the Permian it was around 200 ppm. That drop is where most of the fossil fuels came from, as well as a lot of rock formed by organisms that used CO2 to build their shells. You might be surprised to learn your bones are calcium in a protein lattice and the protein contains a lot of carbon.

[@kwongheng]

That is interesting but are u saying that all the FAO and UN climate papers from climate scientists are wrong about C02? If so are there any published peer review paper that disputing what FAO and UN talks climate scientists talk about?

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

@@kwongheng, I typed a long reply, and KZbin ate it! This time, I posted the link separately, and there will be a shorter reply because it is late, here. Indeed, I am saying "that all the FAO and UN climate papers from climate scientists are wrong about C02". The UN is a political organization and they decided CO2 must be reduced as a political decision, then they went about coopting people to create the "science" to support that decision. The graph I posted is real science and we know the mass of CO2 was present because it is in the fossil fuel deposits and rocks around the world. That shows the experiment has been done! CO2 levels were much higher in the past and earth had a relatively stable upper temperature, and also ice ages, while CO2 levels were high and while they were low. It's worth noting the last really warm period was the 1930's, when CO2 was 100 ppm lower than today. If you go through newspaper archives you will discover heat waves and storms that make anything since the 1950's look very temperate. Sadly, you can't rely on peer reviewed papers because peer review does not do what you believe it does.

[@WilliamThePayne]

Sure meat is not the driving factor for climate change, but it is still a large contributing factor. To dismiss the serious impact meat has on climate change and global warming because some people overstate it's impact is incredibly misleading and totally unhelpful in the fight against climate change. We don't live in an all or nothing world, things are nuanced. The impact animal agriculture has on our planet is clear. Sure fossil fuels are the driving factor but that doesn't mean we can't also try to reduce of contributing factors. To solve climate change we need to reshape the way out entire global society consumes and reducing our consumption of meat and animal products is part of that journey. When you also consider the negative impact animal agriculture has on our health and the vicious cruelty it imposes on animals then it's obvious that we should aim to reduce our animal product consumption.

[@ekondigg6751]

William Payne "it's obvious that we should aim to reduce our animal product consumption." I would say it's obvious that we should aim to change the industrial animal practices that are cruel.

[@RebeccaVerreth]

It's far from obvious that meat has a negative impact on health. That has never been proven. Indeed, meat is just about the most nutritious food for people. Has all the nutrients in their most bioavailable forms, and none of the antinutrients.

[@RebeccaVerreth]

Also, grazing animals are part of the solution, because they have built soil and continue to build soil if you manage them well. Domestic cattle replaces, must replace, wild ruminants because there are no longer enough of them and our lands are too small and compartmentalized, and numbers of predators keeping herds on the move are too low. Grasslands that are well grazed, mimicking nature, with rotational grazing, capture CO2 and create biodiversity.. much better even than forests because there is no limit to the capturing of Co2 and the building of carbon rich topsoil. Grazing keeps creating new carbon rich topsoil. Look at the African plains, the great American plains. How did they manage to sustain those impossibly large herds of grazing animals? How did they get so fertile. The numbers of animals on those grasslands have been astounding. And they should once again be like that to save us. Earth can sustain enormous numbers of hooved animals without any problem. Always has. What we should not have done is clear all those grasslands, plow them and kill animals and biodiversity in the process, just because we want grains and legumes. Agriculture has released Co2 that was locked in, and has been releasing it for 10.000 years since the start of agriculture. Burning fossil fuels has worsened an existing problem. Man made. Not cow made.

[@meathead365]

All animal emissions are carbon negative

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

​@@ekondigg6751 yes