Mechanic Tip: Tightening Brake Line Bolts

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Technician Red

Technician Red

Жыл бұрын

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@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed Жыл бұрын
Allright! Some of yall need to calm TF down! Lets all take a lesson in basic mechanical know-how. Class has started. No, the hammer doesn't mess the threads up. Quite the opposite. This method of getting the washer to seal is a lot easier on the threads than trying to tighten the crap out of the bolt hoping the washer will crush more. *Explained below* The crush washers allready have a lot of pressure on them from tightening the banjo bolt, but it isn't enough sometimes. This is where the force from the hammer is added to the force of the bolt threads creating a MUCH HIGHER force at initial hammer impact to crush the washers. Hitting the bolt (when tightened) WILL exert 100% of the added force to the washers and not the threads. This is due to the axial play between the threads of a bolt. The bolt is simply being pushed from one crest of the thread towards the other crest with the washers being compressed at that time therefore taking the impact of the hammer. After this hammer whack, the washers have now crushed more therefore leaving a gap and allowing you to tighten the banjo bolt more. And NO, hitting a socket instead of the head of the bolt is not going to accomplish didly squat! First off, the socket will mess up that first copper washer and nick the crap out of it around the outside edge. Second, the inner washer would see almost all of the force of the hammer as the outer washer would only make slight contact with the socket (messing it up as mentioned). You want the same force applied to both washers.
@wetherabble8031
@wetherabble8031 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! First thought seeing this: "No F'n way he's hammering on those threads." Then you think about it for more than a moment. Ah... the threads are loaded to the back side, the hammer blow is going 100% into that washer, and he's chasing it down between blows. Killer! I'll keep the tech tip in my back pocket for my next spark plug job 😉.
@mikebravo3527
@mikebravo3527 Жыл бұрын
Pin this guy
@rjwhipple8896
@rjwhipple8896 Жыл бұрын
I get where you’re coming from but still not good on threads and does still exert force on them especially on cast metal like a caliper that’s a risky game to play
@danielsantillan2018
@danielsantillan2018 Жыл бұрын
I like to put the washer on the ground and hit it with a hammer and crush it before I crush it on the bolt. So I don’t mess up the threads.
@illitero
@illitero Жыл бұрын
@@danielsantillan2018 I'll bite new crush washers like an old prospector
@dant8213
@dant8213 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to bust out the snap-on 3050 air 🔨 and go to town 😳😁
@zenkoz3158
@zenkoz3158 Жыл бұрын
I think this method would work better because you're not twisting the copper as much as you would be with just a bunch of tourqe, as well this method probably being easier on the threads
@sethh8892
@sethh8892 Жыл бұрын
​@@zenkoz3158I don't know if a bunch of wax from an air hammer is going to be better on the threads than a small tap from a roofing hammer😂
@alemgas
@alemgas Жыл бұрын
@@sethh8892 roofing hammer? Its a ball pein hammer
@tonydobek8908
@tonydobek8908 Жыл бұрын
​@@alemgas When you only own one hammer you can call it whatever hammer you want! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@XX-tg4gj
@XX-tg4gj Жыл бұрын
​@@tonydobek8908 Nah, we just call it the girl's hammer.
@richardp3624
@richardp3624 Жыл бұрын
In too many years, I've never done this or heard of it. Great idea.
@samuelboyd972
@samuelboyd972 Жыл бұрын
Thats a TIP for disater
@chrisplayz9739
@chrisplayz9739 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelboyd972 how so ? i dont think anything is being stripped it just looks like hes crushing the washer further with the hammer then tightening the nut with the extra space that opened up for the screw
@macsway2002
@macsway2002 Жыл бұрын
He really stressing the threads on that caliper.
@daltonjones8549
@daltonjones8549 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrisplayz9739
@restogarage
@restogarage Жыл бұрын
How does this crush the washer rather than the bolt. The bolt essentially is solid with the caliper. Bad idea on a bolt that has a hole drilled in it. More than likely you are just crushing the bolt or threads.
@42lookc
@42lookc 8 ай бұрын
Just tried this on a 2008 Silverado 2500HD with hydroboost. Exactly this problem. Couldn't get the banjo bolt washers to seal so looked on YT for tips. Saw this clip, tried it and it worked! Saved me an hour round trip to town for a help kit with new washers. Two taps with a 12 oz ball peen hammer and sealed! Thanks! Wish I could buy you lunch.
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 7 ай бұрын
Awesome, glad I could help out!
@Matthew-ou2ie
@Matthew-ou2ie 7 ай бұрын
@@TechnicianRed Definitely would have helped me back in the day. I've broken a few of these banjo bolts trying to get them tight enough to seal. This is much better.
@kinbolluck476
@kinbolluck476 4 ай бұрын
Stupid washers
@gordonpitts9382
@gordonpitts9382 4 ай бұрын
Same issue I had, nice fix
@NordenEngineering
@NordenEngineering 3 ай бұрын
Ive been pronouncing it "Ball Pain" hammer all my life you live and learn
@conchopete1789
@conchopete1789 9 ай бұрын
Add in a “ That AINT going nowhere “ and you’re Golden
@jamesmcguinness1530
@jamesmcguinness1530 Ай бұрын
Don't forget to gently pat the whole caliper while you do that.
@DisaFreek
@DisaFreek Жыл бұрын
Current Toyota technician and shop nerd. This is solid advice as far as I'm concerned and your breakdown explains it perfectly. You aren't hitting a bleeder, and you aren't beating the mess out of it either. I will for sure try this next time the opportunity presents itself.
@atb614
@atb614 10 ай бұрын
I saw this trick a while ago and implemented it when I do dif and transfer case flushes as well
@uGoGop
@uGoGop 9 ай бұрын
Do you then use a new crush washer as they are single use?
@1987FX16
@1987FX16 9 ай бұрын
​@@uGoGoplol I've literally never put a new copper washer on anything I own. Everything that's not mine gets new ones on them though.
@grandpa7278
@grandpa7278 9 ай бұрын
All a top mechanic needs is a crescent wrench and a hammer! That's All! ....maybe afew doodads. (hardly w mentioning)
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd 9 ай бұрын
Probably the only tech commenting on the post, everyone else is just a shade tree mechanics light holder.
@steffentysnes5302
@steffentysnes5302 Жыл бұрын
For once a shorts mechanical tip that actually seems to make sense and probably work, incredible
@geef917
@geef917 Жыл бұрын
How would this work? The bolt is threaded into the caliper all this person is doing is hammering the threads.
@steffentysnes5302
@steffentysnes5302 Жыл бұрын
@@geef917 There is a tolerance at the threads, so when you tighten it it will clamp down on the washer and make a "free space" between the inner side of the threads and the caliper, so it will first comform the washer.
@steffentysnes5302
@steffentysnes5302 Жыл бұрын
@@geef917 I see, you dont know anything about anything, I'm sorry about that.
@geef917
@geef917 Жыл бұрын
@@steffentysnes5302 if you think banging on threads is doing anything to that crush washer you know nothing. I would never want you working on my vehicle either.
@steffentysnes5302
@steffentysnes5302 Жыл бұрын
@@geef917 what a relief:)
@RoughRaiders13
@RoughRaiders13 Жыл бұрын
Mechanic for 10 years and I never saw that before. What an awesome tip. You learn something new everyday. Anyone criticizing this obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. This is a solid method. Thanks for the tip. 👍
@jimmurphy5739
@jimmurphy5739 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. Just gotta warn the shop gorilla not to whale on it with a 5 lb. maul! Just a decent tap will do.
@evlutionzllc5519
@evlutionzllc5519 7 ай бұрын
You win the brake service tip championship! I have worked on brakes on vehicles for about 30 years or so and never seen anyone mention this. Bravo! Bravo!
@dak_57
@dak_57 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a mechanic for 197 years and this is a new one for me. Great idea
@akusa82
@akusa82 Жыл бұрын
How many years? 😟🧐🤯
@petesmith5092
@petesmith5092 Жыл бұрын
​@@akusa821.97
@darrellgroat1607
@darrellgroat1607 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking great advice
@Henry_Swanson
@Henry_Swanson Жыл бұрын
Back in 1826 he began as a lube teck changing fluids on the horses pulling the buggies. In 3 years his boss will give him a fake gold plated watch from a vending machine for 200 years of service without a day off. No raise.
@edwardmulder3777
@edwardmulder3777 Жыл бұрын
197 years? r u Joe biden? lol
@Davsoto120
@Davsoto120 Жыл бұрын
Ive watched too many satire mechanics that I thought you were ganna weld something at some point 😂
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@brucebradley5877
@brucebradley5877 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about my induction tool bring that washer just shy of it's melting point. Flame out the brake fluid. :)
@corythomas4427
@corythomas4427 Жыл бұрын
@@brucebradley5877 Since copper work hardens, you could do that to anneal an already installed and removed crush washer if you were forced to reuse it for some reason.
@danbrooks8241
@danbrooks8241 Жыл бұрын
I have a set of those H.F fiberglass handle ballpein hammers I've had them for almost 20 years
@joshcohen5027
@joshcohen5027 Жыл бұрын
@@corythomas4427 yes, I’ve done it before. Heat it up until it’s red hot and let it air dry, I use a piece of mechanics wire to hang it up and some map gas if I was in a pinch and couldn’t get a new one
@robwoodke6592
@robwoodke6592 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been a mechanic, automotive, truck and equipment for 40+ and have never seen this done. Very cool idea. I’m retired now and only doing work for friends and family but I’ll definitely do this next brake job.
@joemvin.j3-16
@joemvin.j3-16 Жыл бұрын
I am now 67. I have done countless brake jobs at home with new/reman calipers & new hoses. I have often pulled the new hose off, to install another new crush washer - and bleed everything AGAIN to get great pedal feel & pressure. And probably wasted crushable washers and brake fluid. THIS IS AMAZING! THANK YOU! @TechnicianRed
@mikeemmons1079
@mikeemmons1079 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Murphy, my 9th grade shop teacher, is smiling down on this video. I think "Hit it with a hammer, it will fit" is on his headstone.
@josephpicaro151
@josephpicaro151 11 ай бұрын
You just kept Mr.Murphys name alive one more day ✌️
@MR-si1eq
@MR-si1eq 11 ай бұрын
😂😅😂😅😂😅
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 10 ай бұрын
And if it still doesn't fit? Get a bigger hammer!
@nejmsornejm2973
@nejmsornejm2973 9 ай бұрын
Did he fit into his grave without a hammer? (Sorry)
@thestinkiestpp1894
@thestinkiestpp1894 9 ай бұрын
did your teacher by any chance have a career in law? 😅
@kevinmetcalf6371
@kevinmetcalf6371 Жыл бұрын
Tks young man .I've been working on cars for decades & thats a new one on me. Old dog learned a new trick
@raynjpg
@raynjpg Жыл бұрын
Always new things to learn, that's what's great ab this world. It's like how parents will say they don't just teach their kids, their kids teach them a lot too.
@gjohns316
@gjohns316 Жыл бұрын
Same here, 30 years of working on cars and that’s a first
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott Жыл бұрын
Same here. It seems obvious. For 40 years I would just tighten the heck hoping I don’t strip
@crunchermuncher93
@crunchermuncher93 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@infiniti37G
@infiniti37G Жыл бұрын
We always used the old old washers. They NEVER leaked.
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 11 ай бұрын
I like this. Too many people over tighten the fitting until they are deforming the threads. This little tap puts the load on the washer where it needs to be.
@samiam247
@samiam247 8 ай бұрын
Perfectly done, what's happening here is, there's a little slack in the threads, when you tighten the bolt it's using the back face of the threads, when you hit it with hammer the front face of the threads are contacting leaving more slack in the back face to hit it again. great job!
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 8 ай бұрын
So many people can't comprehend how this works! You give me hope!
@thetruespartan2204
@thetruespartan2204 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've been a mechanic for about 15 years and I've never thought to do that. Your a freaking genius bro. Gonna use this on my Jeep Cherokee soon.
@khriszty2000
@khriszty2000 Жыл бұрын
You should also hit your oil filter with a hamer. It helps.
@MoonPawsz
@MoonPawsz Жыл бұрын
"And this was the last we ever heard from him"
@terrynieman4711
@terrynieman4711 Жыл бұрын
Looks like whoever made the brake assembly was dreaming of there china doll and didnt machine the burs off worth a shit !
@TickyTack23
@TickyTack23 Жыл бұрын
@@terrynieman4711 Sometimes customers don't want to pay for that.
@TryhardEh
@TryhardEh Жыл бұрын
it's not genius at all. If it needs to be crushed more, tighten it more. Hitting it with a hammer will just fuck the threads up. This does absolutely nothing.
@n1pster3
@n1pster3 Жыл бұрын
Great tip! To everyone complaining, there are no downsides to this way of getting the copper to properly take shape. Just dont take a sledgehammer and put all your might into it. you'll be okay.
@mikem2183
@mikem2183 8 ай бұрын
I've tightened quite a few bajos in my life and I was skeptical about leanring a new tip, by the end I had changed my mind. This is a good tip people, he gave it a love tap, not the show stopper. I can imagine lots of people complaining about this technique.
@marshallmcdonald7309
@marshallmcdonald7309 Жыл бұрын
47 years working on vehicles & this is the first time I've ever seen this. Great tip.
@spudth
@spudth Жыл бұрын
How many leaky banjo connections in 47 years?
@Dillyg978
@Dillyg978 Жыл бұрын
There's probably a reason you've never seen it before. Those baby taps didn't do a fucking thing 🤣
@ShiftTechPerformance
@ShiftTechPerformance Жыл бұрын
​@@Dillyg978 I mean...you literally just watched him get an extra 90 degrees of rotation after the "baby tap", so I'm confused by your assertion. Are you suggesting that the hammering was all for show and that the extra rotation at the end was "movie magic"? You don't believe that the initial hammer tap could transfer enough energy into/through, the various components/alloys involved to result in the plastic deformation required to accomplish the additional rotation of the wrench that immediately proceeded it? -or- Are you suggesting that; regardless of the fact that he managed to accomplish additional "crushing" of the crush washer, seemingly without increasing the torque applied to the bolt, the likelihood of a leak occurring at that juncture has not been reduced in any way (or has increased due to...[w/e reason])? I'm just trying to grasp what "fucking things" those baby taps failed to do? ;)
@Dillyg978
@Dillyg978 Жыл бұрын
@@ShiftTechPerformance he could rotate it more and it would tighten the washer more😬😬 Jesus ur dense
@trevor5933
@trevor5933 Жыл бұрын
Thats a fucking great tip. Reman calipers are always hard to seal completely. Doing a pair on my 04 Chevy 3500 Express box van right now and that did help. Thanks man!
@krazykyle393
@krazykyle393 10 ай бұрын
Or just sand it smooth
@bookkeeper9902
@bookkeeper9902 9 ай бұрын
Just use the old washers
@therandomwire1
@therandomwire1 7 ай бұрын
Spent my career wrenching. Retired now. Great tip. I've done this a few times. Not always required, but works when the sealing surface is compromised.
@thedunzelmon
@thedunzelmon 11 ай бұрын
Definitley a solid tip. Another good one is to anneal the copper gaskets. Will make the copper softer amd crush easier.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 9 ай бұрын
I can only imagine what copper crush washers come as annealed as they can get.
@janfourie7590
@janfourie7590 8 ай бұрын
@@AtlasReburdened copper tend to become hard with age and annealing it before use is required
@Ian_Burt
@Ian_Burt Жыл бұрын
25yrs Master Mechanic and that's a new one on me. Just proves there is always more to learn. Thanks, this is a good tip.
@Airman..
@Airman.. Жыл бұрын
Sky is the limit
@MAD1450
@MAD1450 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Butchsiek
@Butchsiek Жыл бұрын
When I was an apprentice sheet metal worker on the railroad. I made a suggestion to my journeyman. Saving time, money and metal on a project. Still did it his way.. After lunch foreman calls me into his office. He told me, to do what I'm told and keep my opinions to myself. When I'm a journeyman I can teach my apprentice my way. My journeyman got a other project, told me what to set the shear in depth and the direction of the metal to be cut. I looked at the print and I saw that he was cutting the metal wrong direction. So I cut 100 4ftx8ft 16ga. To the dire tion as I was told.. I cut 100 sheets wrong.. Once they were all cut, my journeyman, said aw phuck.. He went to the foreman, they both came over took a look see, made a comment about cutting them wrong. I said, I knew I was cutting them wrong.. Foreman, why didnt you say something? I was told to keep my mouth shut and do what I'm told to do.. Look on his face was a Kodak Moment. Ordered 100 more sheets.. I turned to my journeyman and said, you are never too old to learn. You just learned you screwed up and I could have saved you.
@brettjones9943
@brettjones9943 Жыл бұрын
No a good tip hear the washer be like new and do up normally ha ha
@pedtrog6443
@pedtrog6443 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes maintaining harmony on the job site is worth the cost of inefficiency.... sometimes not
@TinyPaperClip
@TinyPaperClip Жыл бұрын
as a mechanic this makes so much sense, i thought you were going to overtighten it and maybe break the bolt, but this is a safe way to seal the washer more
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella Жыл бұрын
Even safer is to anneal the washer first. Heat it red hot, let it cool (or if in a hurry, it's fine to quench it; only steel hardens when quenched). Clean off any scaling (it'll come off easily but don't scratch the metal). You can still do what's demonstrated here but it will be much more effective. It will need re-annealing every time it's reused.
@donnafoyster6381
@donnafoyster6381 Жыл бұрын
​@Gottenhimfella If you have access to a heating element, oxygen, propane ect. And if you are permitted to utilise a heating instrument in your workplace, i.e., not working in oil, chemical, gas or blast facility. But what I'm sure you ACTUALLY meant to say, AWESOME IDEA.
@ccjohncc1
@ccjohncc1 9 ай бұрын
This technique has been around for a longtime and not commonly known as many say it won't make a difference after you share with them this very useful technique.
@scottdelaney98
@scottdelaney98 4 ай бұрын
The main reason it's not commonly known is that it's nonsense. If it did anything at all (which it doesn't) it would be weakening the brand new threads. Application of the proper torque with a large enough wrench does the job.
@Pappy63
@Pappy63 9 ай бұрын
Good tip! I've been wrenching for 40 years and have never thought about or seen this. We learn something new daily
@silveracer9
@silveracer9 Жыл бұрын
Great tip! Been in the biz a very long time, seen more than a few leak. This is brilliant! 😊
@t-bfr45-70
@t-bfr45-70 Жыл бұрын
I have gotten to where I anneal copper washers before Installing them because a lot of the new ones have just been to hard I probably would have used a flat file on that caliper to.
@silveracer9
@silveracer9 Жыл бұрын
@Edward Elizabeth Hitler Where were you when I've stayed hours after work trying to get a caliper to seal while a customer sits and waits to get back on the road. As an ASE Master Tech, I could have saved myself a lot of time and effort, could have just called you so I could learn to do it right, thanks for the tip Dick!
@alexscott8736
@alexscott8736 Жыл бұрын
Man they really ought to spot face the seal area during the reman process...
@tomnovak7731
@tomnovak7731 Жыл бұрын
Most I've seen do.
@jiritichy6855
@jiritichy6855 Жыл бұрын
Porting tool!
@phiksit
@phiksit Жыл бұрын
I had a problem where the spot face was slightly too deep ended up having to add a second washer to stop the leak.
@VorsprungDurchNik
@VorsprungDurchNik Жыл бұрын
Too deep and the fitting doesn't seat right and you're wasting time looking for thicker crush washers.
@mtraven23
@mtraven23 Жыл бұрын
right? hitting it shouldn't be nesessary, but a metal-metal seal, even with copper, against that cast surfaces is always gonna make problems.
@skypilot23
@skypilot23 Жыл бұрын
I just went through this and will try your tip- yes! My bolts easily tightened further than I had them afterward
@justinterrapin942
@justinterrapin942 7 ай бұрын
Awesome. I’m not a mechanic really but working on my brakes knowing this helps. Great tip.
@sixstarauto
@sixstarauto Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this job for 20 years, this is genius.
@canceledczech457
@canceledczech457 8 ай бұрын
Another tip, OEM washers are MUCH softer copper, just flip the oem washer and reuse..changed more calipers than I'd like to remember and never had one leak
@frankieatjumbleend4867
@frankieatjumbleend4867 11 ай бұрын
You Sir are a pro! 👍✅ From one mechanic to another.
@frankieatjumbleend4867
@frankieatjumbleend4867 11 ай бұрын
It's always good to see someone else who still knows the 'trade'. Most people these days can't even change a flat tyre. ✅
@pauboh3718
@pauboh3718 Жыл бұрын
We learned in ship mechanic school to heat the washers red hot and dump them into water, so they will be softer and crush better to seal against the surface
@chrisliquidr597
@chrisliquidr597 Жыл бұрын
Supposed to do the same thing if reusing copper washers on aviation spark plugs
@antonyaiken
@antonyaiken Жыл бұрын
That's because aviation and nautical engineering requires some kind of knowledge. Where as mechanics on cars torque bolts up to spec then hit them with a hammer so they can over torque them on critical fasteners 🤦‍♂️
@Amin.Ashraf
@Amin.Ashraf Жыл бұрын
​@@antonyaiken yeah. Certification is not a requirement to be a car mechanic but it still requires knowledge, at least some. But still, I never seen a mechanic hit a bolt with hammer to tighten it.
@TheDodgeGuyBrandon
@TheDodgeGuyBrandon Жыл бұрын
@ComicusFreemanius
@ComicusFreemanius Жыл бұрын
yep and you can do that for fuel rail bolts and washers that go on aluminum too.
@johnchamberlain1624
@johnchamberlain1624 Жыл бұрын
I’m a self employed mechanic 45 years WHY DIDNT I EVER YHINK OF THAT TOTAL LEGEND 😂
@claytonp5118
@claytonp5118 8 ай бұрын
I started doing this at work thanks to this guy even on power steering bolts and it definitely works
@keith6943
@keith6943 5 ай бұрын
I can't believe it, 20years worth of changing calipers, and I never tried this, I also never had a comeback over leaking calipers either, but this is still a smart way to be sure you have proper crush and seal. Bravo!
@MRMechanicRC
@MRMechanicRC Жыл бұрын
It’s people like this guy who have taught me how to fix stuff
@DS-qy3qv
@DS-qy3qv Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, doesn't damage the threads and allows the seal to properly form.
@guypehaim1080
@guypehaim1080 10 ай бұрын
Good one! Maybe you could come up with a tool that will smooth the casting surface around the connection much like the tool used for cutting a new seat of a sink faucet.
@tonyfremont
@tonyfremont Жыл бұрын
This is actually genius, just don't rotate that washer after seating it the first time. For those freaking out about thread damage, there is more clearance on the unloaded side of the threads than the washer crushes overall.
@j.e.honiball1327
@j.e.honiball1327 Жыл бұрын
You should be putting new copper washers in every time you open it up anyways
@paulh2981
@paulh2981 Жыл бұрын
@@j.e.honiball1327 I think he meant don't turn the washer when you re-tighten the bolt after whacking it. A tiny bit of oil on the bolt head side of the washer might help to prevent the other side from turning.
@thegreatgali1739
@thegreatgali1739 Жыл бұрын
​@@paulh2981 You might not even need it. Crushing the washer against an imperfect surface should make it a "custom fit" washer and it won't spin.
@JosephLedbetter
@JosephLedbetter Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatgali1739 The washer replacement is recommended because it's compromised like the Titan submarine.
@modquad18
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, makes sense on the thread clearance.
@paulm.4028
@paulm.4028 Жыл бұрын
Ive been wrenching for the better part of 14 years from anything light to heavy, and I just learned something new! Thanks bud!
@vonnieboy7878
@vonnieboy7878 12 күн бұрын
Instructions unclear… now my caliper just exploded
@SouthSideChiTown
@SouthSideChiTown 3 ай бұрын
I did airframe repair in the military, trained in alloy identification, hand forming and Fabrication. Includes Drilling and tapping. That's a great trick and doesn't damage the hardware or the threads. Thanks a lot! I'm going to use that.
@CryoSignal
@CryoSignal Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is a great tip for all banjo connections. Allot of turbos use them for oil/water
@speed284504
@speed284504 Жыл бұрын
Brake calipers are meant to survive harsh vibrations. Turbos aren't. Please don't hit your turbo with a hammer...
@CryoSignal
@CryoSignal Жыл бұрын
@@speed284504 a light tap from a hammer is more than fine. Especially on journal bearing turbos
@huntguy3831
@huntguy3831 Жыл бұрын
@@speed284504 What do you think happens you hit a pothole on the interstate? The engine isn’t on air and gets thrown around just the same if not more than the passengers do.
@ValentineC137
@ValentineC137 Жыл бұрын
@@huntguy3831 but absolutely nowhere near as much or as harshly as the brake calipers and wheels do
@speed284504
@speed284504 Жыл бұрын
@Hunt Guy drop a caliper on the ground and it'll probably survive. Do the same with a turbo and it'll shorten its life if it doesn't break something from the first drop. Moreover, turbo fittings are machined to begin with and don't need all this extra effort.
@Loafus_Grumps
@Loafus_Grumps Жыл бұрын
i was shown that in the early 80's as an apprentice truck mechanic.
@Byrd819
@Byrd819 Жыл бұрын
You know about this in the 80's and kept it to yourself? 😂
@outdoorfrenzy
@outdoorfrenzy Жыл бұрын
@@Byrd819 some people just want to watch the world burn 😂
@philip5940
@philip5940 11 ай бұрын
Trade secret is a trade secret until someone wants to score YT hits.
@m0ondoggy
@m0ondoggy 5 ай бұрын
I've always used the back off, slightly, tighten, back off again, tighten method. I'm going to give this a shot. Great tip, thanks.
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 9 ай бұрын
I always use the old washer because they seal every time because of the multiple sealing rings the factory washers have .
@craigconcrete5936
@craigconcrete5936 5 ай бұрын
I used to just use the old ones, until the one on transmission was dripping big time after oil change, and a new crush washer stopped the drip.
@terryharvey4811
@terryharvey4811 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. I've had them leak under braking even after torque to spec.AND then a little more. THIS WOULD WORK.
@kw2519
@kw2519 Жыл бұрын
What’s really going on here, is he’s releasing the tension of the threads. The thing is, if you hit it too hard, you’ll start to deform the threads. If you calculate the difference in major of the bolt and the minor of the caliper, you can find the amount you can move the bolt in before it begins deforming the threads. Good idea IF you don’t hit it too hard.
@adaycj
@adaycj Жыл бұрын
You could do a calculation. And unless you knew the real thread engagement it would be wrong. You could also put a dial indicator on it and push and pull on it after it is threaded in a bit, a much better practical test. None of it matters though. You know it's gonna move a tiny bit. Smack it like the video showed. If a steel banjo bolt skips threads from that little whack, you just saved a line from blowing out of the hole during an emergency stop. Rebuilts are.getting worse and worse. The more checks and verification the better.
@kw2519
@kw2519 Жыл бұрын
@@adaycj the indicator is the easy way to check slop. If this were not going into a cast thread, I wouldn’t be worried. But cast iron is soooo brittle. The calculations aren’t difficult, either. You can easy check the class of thread with a gage. But ya, you can just be careful and not hit it too hard.
@adaycj
@adaycj Жыл бұрын
@@kw2519 The ASTM A536 grades of nodular cast are not brittle at all. This is really more of a toughness thing anyway. I bet if you just put a banjo into a caliper part way and applied force until there was movement from thread failure that the bolt would suffer most of the damage.
@ronmoore3987
@ronmoore3987 9 ай бұрын
He didn't hit the nail on the head, he smacked the banjo bolt on the head Roscoe !😆
@brandonl1052
@brandonl1052 Жыл бұрын
An actual mechanic tip that isn't basic mechanic knowledge. Now thats refreshing
@jordanharvey2163
@jordanharvey2163 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this tip. I was just dealing with this on an envoy today. Remanufactured calipers, new brake hoses, tight but kept leaking during bleeding process. I didn't know the Hammer trick. So I took off hose, used a wire brush on my drill , cleaned surface, sanded surface, cleaned with brake Kleen then used my vise to squeeze the copper washer flat and then re installed. So tight and smooth. But your idea is faster for sure.
@rogerringold616
@rogerringold616 Жыл бұрын
So its a LACK OF QUALITY MFG
@Gold63Beast
@Gold63Beast Жыл бұрын
16 years. You learn something new everyday man.
@stonedmega1
@stonedmega1 Жыл бұрын
20 plus years of wrenching and you've taught me something new, thank you. You got yourself a new subscriber.
@420sippin
@420sippin Жыл бұрын
No way your a mechanic you should know hitting the top of a bolt doesnt move it deeper its got what we call threads so this is shit
@centurion726
@centurion726 Жыл бұрын
it was a horror to have to replace these the new one always leaked, I wish I had learned this 45 years ago ... thanks
@Cent51
@Cent51 Жыл бұрын
You not the sharpest tool in the shed are you, but you will fit right in with this guy.
@Cent51
@Cent51 Жыл бұрын
@@stonedmega1 Look at you, you know how to look at a profile, well done another small minded thing you learnt on a short!! Try harder tool.
@Cent51
@Cent51 Жыл бұрын
@@stonedmega1 I never delete comments you Doos Poes, however the Tube shadows because it might hurt your guys feelings..
@paulpz04
@paulpz04 11 ай бұрын
This might be the very first KZbin tool tip I've seen that's both smart/proper and will be used by someone
@honda90084
@honda90084 7 ай бұрын
Just tried this last night an yes it works. I could tighten my banjo bolt a little tighter also. Thanks for the tip, I'll always use it now
@XxcfirecraftxX
@XxcfirecraftxX Жыл бұрын
As someone who's broke off more than one banjo bolt trying too fix leaks, I wish I'd had thought about this sooner.
@PanSlayah
@PanSlayah Жыл бұрын
Great tip. I've heated them up a little and that helps too
@donutdan1508
@donutdan1508 Жыл бұрын
Great idea. That should anneal the copper and allow it to conform to the rough surface more easily. ✌🍩
@supertramp6011
@supertramp6011 Жыл бұрын
@@donutdan1508 amazing how few people understand annealing. That caliper surface is shocking, should be machined smooth.
@anythinganytimealways
@anythinganytimealways Жыл бұрын
Oof
@platinumsky845
@platinumsky845 Жыл бұрын
​@@t-bfr45-70 you just said "don't anneal it, you should anneal it" The water just makes the metal cool enough to handle faster, either one will get it equally soft
@opotime
@opotime 9 ай бұрын
Anneal is what i do too sometimes and to loosen a Joint i hit it with a Hammer first... Why anneal... because, Cooper is Not "Cooper" and if you buy from the wrong Manufaktur you need extrawork
@Laggyness
@Laggyness 9 ай бұрын
These are the kinds of tips that can save you time and money. Free of charge. Thanks dude!
@shonez5527
@shonez5527 6 ай бұрын
Saw this video a while ago every single time I do a caliper I do this and never have any issues thanks to ur video so thank u very much it has helped a lot
@christophercastor6666
@christophercastor6666 Жыл бұрын
Fucking spectacular tip. I can’t believe how many times I have used impact for Removing fasteners, but hot damn you just saved a 1000 worries over stripping out verses crushing for a good seal. Spectacular. Thank you.
@carlosyt2
@carlosyt2 Жыл бұрын
Why just crush the gasket with your long box wrench when you can use a hammer to send your caliper threads to the strip club 🤣🤑
@muaythai1187
@muaythai1187 5 ай бұрын
Great tutorial. Fixed the slight leak I had. Thank you.
@aterack833
@aterack833 Жыл бұрын
It’s rare I see a tip that actually teaches me something
@bobkuhl
@bobkuhl Жыл бұрын
Thank you! With this tip I was able to fix a small leak in one of my banjo fittings. Genius! Thank you again.
@patrickmattucci6915
@patrickmattucci6915 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the lesson, as long as I've been working on cars I've never had anybody show me this method.
@nathanhale7444
@nathanhale7444 11 ай бұрын
I've been a shade tree mechanic for 25 years and have never heard of this. It makes such perfect sense I don't know why more people haven't figured it out. Duh! I'll definitely add this to my list of techniques and am looking forward to giving it a whack.
@jayyoutube8790
@jayyoutube8790 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Never thought of that. However I’ve never had one go bad on me that I know of. I’ll keep that one in mind. Good video, thank you👍🏻
@plkracer
@plkracer Жыл бұрын
Been doing this for a few years, works great, and you don't have to torque the bolt to failure. The imprint really shows when you pull it apart.
@maddawgnoll
@maddawgnoll 9 ай бұрын
Finally... someone gives good advice on KZbin shorts
@agtronic
@agtronic 8 ай бұрын
Your explanation in the pinned comment is perfectly right, the threads are loaded on down facing edge, so when you knock the bolt down with a hammer you are unloading the threads and squishing the crush washer. This is a trick we often use on heavy equipment to break loose filler plugs that are sealed with crush washers. One whack and you can take the plug out by hand usually. But all that said, I’ve never seen banjo bolts leak unless installed wrong, but that’s a whole other conversation. Good on you for explaining your method in detail, too bad 80% of KZbin users are braindead and can’t understand it.
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on being in the top 1% of the KZbin comment crew! This gives humanity hope!
@androidphone1901
@androidphone1901 Жыл бұрын
Damn it's a good idea bro. From the looks of it this should prevent having to torque the bolt to failure
@ethelmini
@ethelmini Жыл бұрын
Increases the probability as he's reduced the available yield in washer. The torque needed to compress the washer will be closer to what's required to make the bolt yield.
@androidphone1901
@androidphone1901 Жыл бұрын
@@ethelmini interesting concept but I'm wondering, did he not use the force of the hammer to yield the washer that would have otherwise been done by the bolt itself? Meaning the bolt being tightened again after the hit, is just to tighten it but not to form it to the gasket surfaces?
@platinumsky845
@platinumsky845 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@ethelmini you don't understand how bolts and seals work do you? Yeah, he's reduced the yield because the washer is more compressed now. The question is, do you want to get that compression by straining the threads or by a non-straining impact?
@RICARD01
@RICARD01 Жыл бұрын
Now you've destroyed the threads. *BRILLANT*
@Chris-hx3om
@Chris-hx3om Жыл бұрын
Think about it! The bolt is pulling up on the threads. That is, the lower side of the threads in the caliper are loaded against the upper side of the threads of the bolt. Hitting the head of the bolt with the hammer will actually push the threads APART, not harder together. It's an excellent tip, not a thread destroyer...
@fandango_buttlicks
@fandango_buttlicks Жыл бұрын
Nice job bro, actually learned something from a utube short.
@kalblades
@kalblades Жыл бұрын
There is a bunch of good shorts to learn from. You just have to search for them a little and give them a thumbs up and the KZbin algorithm will send you educational shorts your way.
@waynedavis7245
@waynedavis7245 8 ай бұрын
Great tip . I had a old timer show me this tip years ago. It works for other things too .
@kairu_aname
@kairu_aname 4 ай бұрын
For those "Never had a leak" guys, usually the customer doesn't come back to you for the same complaint after they get a leak from you
@guzmangil5476
@guzmangil5476 Жыл бұрын
Orr... Just temper it. Put it cherry hot and then into cold water. It'll soften. Same for diesel injector washers. You'll won't risk the threads.
@yorgh_drakeblood2101
@yorgh_drakeblood2101 Жыл бұрын
That was my concern is the threads stretching
@richardriach5775
@richardriach5775 Жыл бұрын
Yep Annealing.
@r0ckworthy
@r0ckworthy Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea, that does make copper WAY softer. But it's not called tempering that's called annealing.
@guzmangil5476
@guzmangil5476 Жыл бұрын
@@richardriach5775 yes, that's the proper word. Didn't know it in English.
@dwartfarquart9590
@dwartfarquart9590 Жыл бұрын
Only 4 from the top! There is still hope for mankind!
@RatsnRods
@RatsnRods Жыл бұрын
Huge help, KZbin must be watching me cause I’ll be putting my axles back in next week
@narimannourizadeh3693
@narimannourizadeh3693 Жыл бұрын
I was a mechanic and never seen or heard anything like this before but I’m glad I learned something from it thanks for sharing
@AMJ.7
@AMJ.7 4 ай бұрын
You have no idea how much this has helped me God bless you Thank you 🙏🏽 from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦♥️
@craigtroxler6022
@craigtroxler6022 Жыл бұрын
Been working on cars for years. I never did this. Thanks it really is good advice
@doitallpro
@doitallpro Жыл бұрын
Wish I would have seen this before breaking my banjo bolt 🔩
@ororion
@ororion Жыл бұрын
At least they have a hole for removal….
@kylesebring
@kylesebring 9 ай бұрын
Ive seen a lot of people do this with head bolts with basically no effect, but this I can get behind.
@BleedingOath
@BleedingOath 5 ай бұрын
This could not have popped up at the most PERFECT time lmao, literally need to do a complete brake job including calipers too! Thanks for the info man 🙏🏼🔥
@anthonyd8932
@anthonyd8932 Жыл бұрын
That’s a sweet idea. I’ve been tightening them bolts for years thinking I’m gonna strip them to get that crush seal
@GT380man
@GT380man Жыл бұрын
It’s a good tip & one I’ll be using from now on. Another is to anneal the copper washer too. Heat it to glowing in a gas flame, drop it in water to quench it. Now more ductile.
@markfullerton7174
@markfullerton7174 Жыл бұрын
Really helps with the quackability!! Lol
@philipgorham388
@philipgorham388 Жыл бұрын
The right way to do it
@i_commission_dspriscilla_a7486
@i_commission_dspriscilla_a7486 Жыл бұрын
Thats hardening. Less ductile
@wirefeed3419
@wirefeed3419 Жыл бұрын
@@i_commission_dspriscilla_a7486 You are correct but only when working with Steel and other alloys. Heating Steel to specific extreme high heat temperatures and rapid cooling in water or oil different levels of hardening occurs. Copper is not the same, heating copper to red hot and quenching does actually anneal the copper making it soft for bending or shaping.
@Wasper216
@Wasper216 Жыл бұрын
@@wirefeed3419 Exactly! Copper is a work hardening metal. The more you work it, like with a hammer, the harder it gets until it becomes very brittle. But if you heat it up glowing red and then quench it in cold water, it becomes soft again. That’s why shaping with copper requires several steps of working, annealing, etc.
@pzakkly3976
@pzakkly3976 9 ай бұрын
All the years of working on cars no one has ever showed me that trick and it makes perfect sense lol thanks for the tip got any more
@williamdegener
@williamdegener 7 ай бұрын
You got me wanting to do this a year after replacing the caliper
@vapecatt
@vapecatt 9 ай бұрын
Ever since I've seen this, I do it every time now. Works great
@ih8thishandle
@ih8thishandle Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Perfect timing also, I have to replace all the calipers on my car next weekend.
@Rob-sr9rj
@Rob-sr9rj Жыл бұрын
What kind of car is it and how old? It's rare to have to replace calipers. Don't get ripped off.
@ih8thishandle
@ih8thishandle Жыл бұрын
@@Rob-sr9rj it's an 8-year-old Mazda with over 145k, living in the Northeast. I drive over 30,000 miles a year on my vehicles and generally every five to eight years I end up having to replace calipers because of the harsh conditions I put them through.
@Deeked
@Deeked Жыл бұрын
I needed this tip a few months ago on my remanned caliper. Had an ever slight leak. And now I know.
@angiesmith9196
@angiesmith9196 4 ай бұрын
Ive been doing this tap-tip for about 10 years now and yes this is an excellent tip that does work. You dont damage the threads or anything else.
@tsunami770
@tsunami770 4 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks I was just about to change all four hoses and banjo bolts!
@Meal_Team6
@Meal_Team6 Жыл бұрын
This man just made an analog impact wrench
@EZ-D-FIANT
@EZ-D-FIANT Жыл бұрын
No he didn't......
@chadjohnson2853
@chadjohnson2853 Жыл бұрын
Old school… the best school
@jamessellards7157
@jamessellards7157 9 ай бұрын
Great tip, I've been dealing with some of these problems. Thank you
@yosecretsquirrel
@yosecretsquirrel 4 ай бұрын
I love the contrast between fresh parts and road rash.
@gimmesomesugar
@gimmesomesugar Жыл бұрын
That's a great tip! Thanks for the video.
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