Media admits to making up fake story about electric cars causing potholes

Media admits to making up fake story about electric cars causing potholes
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[@louisfortin7824]

Daly mail is a bunch of crap and has always been!

[@user-it7lf7kk8m]

It was the biggest selling paper in UK when they were hard copy only. It seems to be very big in USA now as well. Still probably better than the gruaniad and indefensible which are both complete strangers to the truth most of the time.

[@crm114.]

In the UK, we call it the ‘Daily Fail’. Just about sums it up and its second rate journalists.

[@avgjoe5969]

I would put the New York Times in that category as well. Uncle who read them for decades cancelled his subscription years ago. Journalistic integrity died long ago in many papers.

[@memrjohnno]

AKA The Daily Hate.

[@michaelketley1252]

Daily Heil; close contacts with the third reich by the owner….

[@peteralflat281]

The Daily Telegraph are just as bad. Their "journalists" are incapable of testing an EV without their first recharging stop being at a charging station where none of the chargers work.

[@leiflillandt1488]

You mean they understand to look for a "special" charging station? That must be a step in the right direction, after all?!

[@user-jk3ht5hn3m]

Petroleum clubs all over the world have been spewing this kinda propaganda for years, long before ev

[@markmiller8903]

Nothing wrong about fossil fuels!!

[@solartrix]

Mainstream media companies are NOT in the news business, they're in the politics business. Filter everything you see and hear through that and it will make a lot more sense. : )

[@chillfluencer]

How are they financed...by ads...from oil, gas, coal and legacy auto. Western politics: bribed by lobbyists...from oil, gas, coal and legacy auto. Western politics and legacy media are the bitXhes of coal, oil, gas and legacy auto.

[@newzealanddave]

Same for medical news, it's purpose is to sell medical products not inform

[@andrewsaint6581]

I've been driving in UK for 45 years. Potholes are not new.

[@scottpletcher7446]

Sounds like something NewsMax would feed to angry Republicans

[@mavelous1763]

Bingo!

[@punditgi]

Keep up your channel, Sam! Let's hope the truth will win out. 😊

[@dylanthomas12321]

The Daily Mail is owned by its chairman, the 4th Viscount Lord Rothemere, who according yow Wikipedia lives in tax exile in France, avoiding UK taxes. He claims to not interfere with editorial decisions. He's a billionaire.

[@Chasingthelight_67]

Using The Daily "snale" and news in the same sentence is what is commonly known as an oxymoron.

[@travisyarbrough4033]

They never said anything about a Cadillac, Benz, Lincoln, Range Rovers ETC......

[@markolafslot6439]

It's because most of those are ICE cars. Apparently, the fossil fumes protect the asphalt against the load of heavy ICE cars, as opposed to EVs, which silently creep up and make the potholes. /s

[@benediktkaufer8194]

Damn mainstream media.

[@dfberry]

I'd argue they aren't "mainstream". I'd argue they're more like the National Inquirer here in the "States". Yes, (sadly) widely read, but not what I'd classify as "mainstream".

[@markrowland1366]

I was a journalist. To much politics and lies. Understanding what is published is easier having been immersed in that sea of surprises myself.forty years back, the soviet,s promoters were determined to confound with these same techniques.

[@moragkerr9577]

That video of the woman yelling at the Tesla driver was almost certainly set up and acted for social media clickbait.

[@andrewsaint6581]

​@ev.whykingit's nice to see that think the Viking is so influential. 👍

[@moragkerr9577]

@ev.whyking I just think it would have been better not to have mentioned that. It was ages ago, and not really relevant. So many of these clips that do the rounds on Twitter are staged, if you really stop to look at them, and that was one of the more obvious ones.

[@markuss3735]

Can people who write and publish such articles be sanctioned with fines and possibly jail time? If not, they should be.

[@Shane-zl9ry]

They're trying to promote hybrids now. 🙄

[@timothykeith1367]

I'd like a wheezer hybrid rather than an e-bike. 90 mpg and no costly plug-in battery.

[@Shane-zl9ry]

@@timothykeith1367 Whatever you save in gas, you’ll pay in repairs.

[@gregdean8441]

Numbers don't lie they outsell the electric toy cars Facts dont care about your feelings!

[@DavidPlayfair]

Only wimps and tax-dogers drive hybrids! ;)

[@Expedition18]

They also only show electric car fires

[@stigbengtsson7026]

I watch a video on KZbin about a ship that was sinking, I think it was in the Atlantic sea 2022, because a car catch fire, they showed a tesla started burning, but that tesla was one of the oldest model S and the ship accident was 2022 🤔 ??? So media is full of lies, spreading this all over.......

[@Michael-yi4mc]

So, if electric cars make potholes, then the heavy trucks cause the moon craters in road.

[@ISuperTed]

The Daily ‘Fail’ is purely publishing these articles as clickbait - mention EV’s and you get 5 times as many clicks. Mention Tesla and 5 times again. It’s all about website traffic and we get them daily here, sometimes multiple daily anti-EV articles. They are an absolute joke.

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

It's probably not just about getting clicks, since writing a pro-EV story would get clicks also. They have a goal...

[@ISuperTed]

@@FLPhotoCatcher It’s totally about getting clicks - pro or anti EV is the point, they just want to create outrage and that’s what drives website traffic.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

This is no surprise. Often negative news creates views. Good news doesn't get the same level of attention. Media tends not to fact check so much nowadays, due to the very short media cycles resulting from the internet and social media. That's why in part, they often spew out a whole load of baloney.

[@johnfrancis4401]

It sells newspapers especially the Daily Telegraph in the UK

[@kevinclws]

I've also seen fake articles claim pollution from extra brake dust from "heavy" EV's, but the reality is that brake pads don't wear out in electrified vehicles including hybrids because of regenerative braking. My plug-in Prius the brakes were only 1/3 worn after 115k miles, ready for another 200k miles

[@richardcalon3724]

I agree that there is an anti-EV bias in Canada as well. Although anti-EV stories aren't perhaps as blatant or as frequent as the Daily Mail piece they do exist. What is most disturbing is that the comments sections accompanying these pieces are populated by so many self styled experts repeating absolute rubbish that is easily disproved by even the most modest research. It is absolutely exhausting trying to counter these clowns without resorting to profanity because it seems that no matter how often the facts are presented these people are immune. One other thing I have found annoying is that many comments sections have an arbitrary time frame to accept comments which allows much of the spread bullshit to remain unchallenged.

[@mathewritchie]

I read an abstract in Scientific American some years back of a study done in the 1950`s that found a single semi did as much damage as about 280000 cars,semi trailers have only gotten heavier since.

[@leiflillandt1488]

That's why goods should be transported on the railways, and the relatively light weight humans on the roads. Now politicians try to think the other way around... So clever (the voters are)...

[@tomooo2637]

The daily mail cannot be used as a reference in Wikipedia - as they are so full of shit - officially.

[@joecushman6030]

A lie makes it around the world before the truth gets its boots on the ground

[@Paul-ng4jx]

Yeah, the pothole thing was a joke to me because you in the United States. They got a diesel pack. The reason why diesel cost so much is because big rigs and diesel vehicles damage the road and infrastructure a lot more than normal cars meaning they are heavy.😂😂😂😂😂 I had a 1993 for the F250 that was 8500 pounds

[@leiflillandt1488]

But, doesn't John Deer have heavier vehicles, if you are looking for something big and heavy!?

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

The Cybertruck is only 6843lbs, not too bad. Definitely not off the charts. Hummer EV, different story.

[@stevegroen1116]

Just watched a one hour hit piece on the Cyber Truck on the Jimmy Dore Show. Bringing up every negative story they could find. Not even researching the accuracy of them. Cyber Truck was in development during most of these and not the finished product. The only accurate story was on the gas pedal witch will be corrected. Not sure why the ill will towards Tesla. Were they paid for this hit piece? But as far as The Jimmy Dore Show goes I'll be going the other way.

[@gregdean8441]

How's the production numbers going on the cyber urinal? Can never hit a target number. But I like his free speech!

[@rolandblock2530]

Media loved Musk and Tesla prior to his focus on free speech and purchasing Twitter.

[@kevinW826]

You mean the collapse of that EV charging company in Australia is false?

[@natehill8069]

Amazing that EVs can cause potholes for DECADES before even existing.

[@bencarter2308]

So many hating Tesla. It will be thoroughly enjoyable when those same people end up owning them or using FSD on another brand.

[@lycao7451]

Why? Why they hate EV so much? Don’t get it.

[@4literv6]

Simple $$$$$$$$ and trillions of it! Someone ran the numbers and every single day evs are delayed globally can mean $2,500,000,000 in oil revenue gets raked in. Transportation burns over half of all combustible fluids. So evs mean 50% or more of profits go bye bye. 👍🏻😀

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

@@4literv6 There are other reasons I can think of. Such as if you have solar panels with EVs, like many EV owners do, you are more self-sufficient energy wise... Maybe they are also thinking of how EVs reduce sickness and extend life..

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Big oil companies buy advertising with them!!!! Follow the money trail

[@mvsmvs8428]

maybe how bad they are to make lol go look at some of the slave mines they use, you would think you are watching a movie

[@lincolnteh267]

Better to sue the journalist.

[@ginog5037]

Why, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

[@philiptaylor7902]

Local government budgets in the UK, which include road maintenance, have been cut to the bone over the last decade. Apparently this has nothing to do with the deteriorating state of our roads either......

[@ArthurMorrrison1000]

The Sun runs a daily hit piece too.

[@archiefleming652]

For both EV & ICE channels the "lies" told tor & against are opinions. All should be equual, no govt incentives just dealer incentives. Buy whichever you want

[@KaiPonte]

Thank you. So THIS is where the bogus claims of EV's being heavy comes from? I am constantly being told how heavy EV's are. I constantly counter with the fact that my Ford Mach-e weighs 1,000 pounds less than my Chevy Avalanche.

[@zhugeliange5816]

Reader beware. Adding them onto my blacklist of media outlets.

[@Supersurfer12]

Today I heard "EVs go through traffic rails" and "EVs can get fried by an EMP." Why don't more people say "EVs don't need petroleum to function."

[@davidhein6044]

Just in general there is a lot of anti EV propaganda mostly against Tesla.

[@slowercuber7767]

I'm of the opinion that the episode of the Karen berating a Tesla owner for idling in a parking space was faked, perhaps meant to entertain, rather than to deceive. I'm not saying there are not people who are as ignorantly self-righteous as the woman acted, just that the instance I saw on a video clip seemed to be more of a play than a documentary.

[@juliahello6673]

EVs weigh more but not that much more. A Tesla Model 3 weighs a little more than 400 pounds more than a Honda Accord (comparable car).

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

The part that EV critics ignore is that EVs can virtually eliminate fuel hauling. Which causes over 600 times the damage of passenger vehicles.

[@jsanders100]

True, I’d not thought of it

[@colinwiseman]

Also if it is true that it takes 4kwh of electricity to drill, transport, refine, transport and pump one gallon of petrol, and the average car tank size is 12gallons (UK) that's 48kwh of electricity to fill a car. And if each car in the UK fills up once a month on average, that's ~1,600 million kWh of energy a year. That'll fill up a few electric cars before we need to find new electricity sources. The grid can handle them.

[@paulwilliams200]

Legacy ICE vehicle manufacturers, their sales and service dealers and infrastructure, fossil-fuel producers ,and the leverage of their massive advertising spending, promote anti-EV disinformation by the media which directly benefits from their largess. OTOH, EV manufacturers contribute little or nothing to their income. "Money corrupts".

[@AtomicHermit]

Stories in the Daily Fail range from blatant lies to deliberate mischaracterization. The art is in determining where on the spectrum a particular story *lies*! The certainty is that it does.

[@chilzone966]

They been exposed for doing it, the admission is only to normalize its acceptance.

[@specialkonacid6574]

this beats rail this is something we can do today from new york to los angeles without having to touch a control fake stories all around

[@stanmitchell3375]

Potholes can wreak a car Potholes are caused by frost in Canada, mostly because of truck damage and thin asphalt

[@leiflillandt1488]

And nowadays a wrong type of "glue" in the asphalt. A relative in Finland told me that for environmental reasons they can't use the "old fashioned glue" and the new glue isn't that good. Then the ground, the layers, was made false decades ago, and now with heavier vehicles the ground of the roads must be made in a different (and definitely not in a cheaper) way. And a thin layer on an old road doesn't last long! Higher taxes on heavy vehicles would move the goods onto the railways. Money talks, always.

[@tomooo2637]

The rise in the SUV result in double the affect on car weight - equivalent platform of saloon (sedan) compared to SUV than the increase weight due to ICE to EV on an equivalent platform. The main reason, as you note, is the safety and strength requirements.

[@mikeflix1598]

Potholes and infrastructure have been terrible and neglected for 20 years. Blame weak, worse government economy for bad roads, cause state or Gov won't fix potholes.

[@tomdrewenskus8167]

Sam, you failed to mention all of the negative Tesla articles by Reuters. They never publish a positive about Tesla or Elon.

[@willtwain1383]

Welcome to American/British media, Electric Viking. This is why we cannot have affordable healthcare, too.

[@marvenlunn6086]

Stretching the truth, a lot heavier vehicles are harder on roads, especially when they hit potholes

[@andrewf3346]

Hey Sam, I'm looking for your report on monthly EV sales in Australia for April 2024. EV sales down YoY for the month in a growing market, down more than petrol vehicles. Surely there is a logical explanation?

[@asajelfs8170]

What about oil washing into our water ways when it rains from leaky engines.

[@rameking1]

Polluting the air by idling an EV.... Honestly, those people are just too ignorant to be part of society and need to go back to school. It's shocking that someone could make that claim seriously.

[@QuiLe-qw5jb]

👍

[@MauriceOldis]

How much do the large SUVs and utes weigh, RAM, HiLux, Navara ???

[@garymiller8287]

You are right about the number of morons and misinformed people out there, pushing the information are major money protecting its hegemony

[@barttemolder3405]

To think that ICE cars need tanker trucks for supplying gas stations with gasoline and diesel while EVs charge from the grid... therefore EVs create LESS potholes than other cars!

[@4literv6]

So few gasholes seem intelligent enough to realize this SMDH. My own older brother whose a cfo argued with me the oil industry ain't even subsidized, the wsj would never lie! And had no clue the amount of energy, chemicals&machine's it requires to extract a barrel of oil. 😑 I just calmly showed him how much weight his plane burned each way to visit us. And based on his own mpg&annual miles driven how much in total fuel weight his cars alone are responsible for consuming. He's since driven a tesla model S, a fisker ocean and is considering a phev of ALL things as his next car. Some older people just never learn!

[@kallekas8551]

EVs are way more destructive to the environment and the planet than any ICE car. Within 4 years the EV obsession will be finished and also the manufacturers of them.🕺

[@timothykeith1367]

Most gasoline in big cities is pumped through pipelines, its only trucked locally and to rural areas. There is a buried gasoline "grid" in the U.S.

[@kallekas8551]

@@timothykeith1367 Here in Austurdestan we truck it everywhere. I did not know about the pipelines…cheers!

[@barttemolder3405]

@@timothykeith1367 That's funny. Try Googling it, I found none. There is a network of pipelines for oil and refined oil products, there's a big distribution pipe in the East, but nothing of the sort that would distribute gasoline directly to gas stations in any numbers.

[@jasonatkins1467]

I LOVE how @ElectricViking says that there percentage of cars on the road that are EVs is to SMALL for them to have much effect on the condition of the road, but this same tiny percentage is MARKEDLY, MEASURABLY improving air quality. Can't have it both ways. Which is it? Small number - no effect? Or small number - major effect?

[@FlipBoxStudio]

I’ve made this comment all over social media for years, EVs didn’t invent pot holes or even make them more prevalent. It’s funny how bad road quality and potholes weren’t a national media trend until after Tesla/EVs gained mainstream popularity. And somehow the only solution was to charge EV owners more taxes in equivalence to the fuel tax a gas guzzling full size SUV that travels over 20k miles a year. As if all roads were pothole free and perfect before EVs came around. No studies done or long term data were provided to support this claim. Just lobbying politicians and lawmakers to put pressure on EV sales in order to reduce their market success.

[@keithhooper6123]

Too many bigger,heavier,vehicles, (SUVs) etc and poor construction and maintenance,are causing more potholes,in the UK.Trucks have more wheels,and wider tyres,spreading the weight.When the surface starts to break up,all traffic will assist in breaking g down the surface.

[@yggdrasil9039]

There's a lot of this going on with anti EV channels on KZbin too. All designed for clicks and comments.

[@gregdean8441]

What similar to this channel!

[@HubbCityy]

How much, if any, does the weight of an ICE vehicle include the weight of gasoline? I honestly don't know if an ICE vehicle weight is with or without the weight of a full (or partial) gas tank.

[@radiculus27]

Another one EVs are heavy and that’s why they go through tires. But on my EV the tires are used on heavier ICE vehicles also and those get better mileage. So how is it the weight

[@gerbenkarman3372]

If it isn't EV's making the potholes in the UK it must be the EU right?

[@FrankGallagherr]

Ha Ha EV haters Tesla is the future get used to it!

[@belowme4927]

the pothole story was obviously bs.

[@TheCostofAutism]

The majority of the newspapers out there get most of their advertising revenue from three places. Number one of course is the drug companies and honestly I don't think they have any skin in the game what number two and number three is the automotive companies and the oil companies and combined they spend even more than the drug companies do. I can imagine that the guys in the advertising sales part of the company is constantly telling editorial hey you guys need to do more Aunty Evie stuff to make it easier for us to sell our ads

[@TheYaMeZ]

Not defending the Daily Mail here, but don't think for a moment that many of us haven't forgotten about you outright removing and hiding your own videos that you got wrong, without acknowledging it.

[@RandyP-jr1ek]

Unless the story was RETRACTED they did not admit anything! They need to publish a correction to that story on the same page number with actual facts or they get away with the original story - no apology, then no admission! Even my 90 year old mom started spouting this kind of anti EV non-sense published and broadcast in America because she does not know how bad journalism has become. It’s a shame and shameful.

[@dhughes6357]

LOL, there is no need to make up stories about EVs when there are so many real failures that can be reported on.

[@michaelfung4629]

Don’t worry people, Its free press, not Chinese owned state media.

[@zoransarin5411]

What is the difference if in both cases you are being lied to and the story printed has an ulterior motive? Same outcome, different ownership/governance model that’s all

[@andrewsaint6581]

​@@zoransarin5411I think that the difference is that Chinese and Russian citizens know they're being buIIshitted. Meanwhile we think our politics is better than theirs. 🤦

[@CassianLore]

None of this will make any difference - EVs have hit a tipping point and there's nothing stopping them becoming 100% of new sales in the UK in the next few years. In the UK, by law 80% of all new cars sold must be EVs by 2030.

[@bishalpandey5531]

😂😂😂😂 funny pallavi, hw much xtra did ICErs paid?

[@willtwain1383]

Every big truck is heavier than the average EV.

[@user-yh6xf3wl1h]

Every EV truck is heavier than a regular truck. That is why the govt allows an extra ton GVM on electric trucks.

[@willtwain1383]

@@user-yh6xf3wl1h You missed the point. There are for more big trucks destroying our roads than EVs, but nobody wants to regulate them.

[@mrmawson2438]

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[@litestuffllc7249]

The media doesn't need to add fuel to anti EV; the reality is they are heavy and use more mining so they aren't green or zero emission; they have fake range claims, and Chinese EVs are trash. The only thing moving EV sales has been big subsidies which are unfair to those who can't afford a new car; helping to pay some that do with zero justification because EVs aren't green. EVs need to get their weight down; find a less impactful chemistry; and vastly improve build quality.

[@paullynass4848]

Elon musk reads the daily mail...it's his fav paper

[@keepitreal2902]

Murdoch Press support ICE vehicles shamelessly

[@mrmawson2438]

Evening mate

[@belowme4927]

the other bs story about ev tire adding more pollution. trucks are far worse

[@asajelfs8170]

If i had a dollar for every EV lie I would have Elon on speed dial.

[@Skybreaker29]

Technically, if politicians would stop being politicians and place concrete, instead of asphalt..roads would last longer

[@zoransarin5411]

Politicians don’t design roads, build roads or maintain roads. Asset engineers and managers do. People who specialise in roads as it is the largest asset that local governments have to care for and maintain. Your comment is technically as false and misleading as the Daily Mail

[@Skybreaker29]

@zoransarin5411 not sure if you know...but concrete last almost twice as long as asphalt... asphalt is just cheaper... some politicians dont really care what happens after their term I had to edit my response because of your spicy comment... soo you're telling me that those engineers use their money to build roads? What planet are you from?

[@frankmoore159]

🧐🤣

[@georgeallen7667]

Weight matters. The heavier the vehicle, the more damage to roads. Basic physics. Being a shill for ev's is obvious. Telling the truth is not.

[@kamgarcha1021]

Only 5% of cars in the UK are EV's? 😂😂

[@Longtack55]

3-5%

[@mrmawson2438]

get it right bellend Electric car sales are now second only to petrol cars in the UK. More battery electric vehicles (BEV) were sold in 2023 than ever before with 314,687 registrations (16.5% of all new car sales), while plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) made up 7.4% or 141,311 cars.

[@crm114.]

And? It’s a young market and intial EVs were expensive. Watch it take off when the prices drop and affordable model become available.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Only 5% have good teeth also

[@markmiller8903]

There is nothing positive about EVS. So every report is bad.

[@mvsmvs8428]

evs are crap lol no need to make up story about them lol just let people drive them

[@mavelous1763]

The Daily Mail? Hey Viking? How ‘bout spending 10 minutes reviewing Trump’s anti-EV horseshit. He makes The Daily Mail look like Encyclopedia Brittannica

[@chrisbarron5861]

At 3:10, Sam states the headline reads "Heavier ELECTRIC cars are blamed for the £16 billion...." What the headline actually reads is "Heavier cars are blamed for the....." Now we've got Sam misrepresenting the daily mail ! Victimhood ? Getting the chips and beers .....

[@douglaswatt1582]

Got to get those trolling comments in, right?

[@chrisbarron5861]

@@douglaswatt1582 Exaggerating what the Mail thinks, is not a good move, regardless of who makes it !

[@currentbatches6205]

EVs suck and physics says they always will.

[@TheCostofAutism]

All you have to do is take a look at your average Hyundai SUV from 10 years ago compared to today those cars have increased in size nearly 50%

[@Bill-Rink]

Notice the Electric Viking doesn’t report on any other EV but cars trying to defame e-bikes e-motorcycles and other Electric vehicles that are not like a Tesla I don’t trust this guy at all probably Tesla stock holder

[@Bill-Rink]

@ev.whyking yep that’s why he doesn’t report the truth

[@chrisbarron5861]

No weight difference between EVs and ICE ? That flies in the face of a report by the Institution of Structural Engineers, who say they weigh on average 300-400kg more than ICE I'm only the messenger, my Engineering qualification isn't in Structural, I'm just passing on what they say. Those guys study for years and are regularly professionally tested, what makes anyone think they're wrong ?

[@4literv6]

Simple comparison. Tesla m3 is in the same class as the BMW 3 series is, 3,600-4,000 with fluids is the Weight range for both model's. Tesla model s LR is the same exact weight range as a dodge charger hellcat is. Both weigh about 4,400# Ford lightning, tesla ct and rivian r1t are 6,000-7,000# and compete against the ram trx&raptor R which weigh? 6,000-6,800# with fuel.😎 A Chevrolet bolt ev weighs the same as a Ford focus se with options and fuel does. Same segment compact 5dr us built hatches! A lucid air weighs 4,600-5,300# any competing luxury ice 4dr full size family sedan will weigh a similar amount with options&fluids. Evs can weigh more in some cases but it's come down a LOT over the past 5 years and will drop below ice competitors within 3 years. Another example geely radar r6 ev mid size truck weighs less than a mid size Ford ranger does!

[@chrisbarron5861]

@@4literv6 Lol, all you're doing is picking an EV and an ICE of similar weight. It's not scientific in the slightest. You at least need the numbers of each vehicle on the road in order to get a real world average. Where's your model breakdown list ?

[@douglaswatt1582]

Tesla Model 3 with dual motors weighs 4000 lb. The equivalent and competing BMW is only about 60 lb lighter. That's a trivial difference that does not explain Road wear and tear

[@chrisbarron5861]

@@douglaswatt1582 Lets be logical here. In urban streets, where cars form most of the traffic and where trucks barely venture, there should be no potholes if cars don't cause potholes. But in every urban street around me there are potholes, and it's rare to get up our street, so the idea that cars don't cause potholes is erroneous

[@TB-up4xi]

@@chrisbarron5861 The average weight of all new ICE vehicles purched in the USA in 2023 was 4329lbs, the average weight of all new BEVs sold in the USA in 2023 was 4208lbs - is that good enough?