Impressed, as I have been having gotten through 21 of the recent 23 Yale lectures, by Timothy Snyder, and so now my new ability to appreciate these important questions asked, thank you.
@SkyeRangerNick Жыл бұрын
I spoke too early in the video as regards to the weight of the questions. Now I am close to the end. Holy Moly with the questions. Thank you.
@SkyeRangerNick Жыл бұрын
Why do I keep spontaneously applauding when the audience applauds?
@nowhereman59682 жыл бұрын
More people need to hear this.
@antoninamemi65872 жыл бұрын
Yes, more people need to hear this, share it and spread it as much as possible on social media, ask your friends to share, we all can do our part to make a difference in the world.
@ksav77482 жыл бұрын
Sure thing
@mishaknopkin21999 ай бұрын
Ukrainian propagandist in our America, not historian
@NataliiaOlekshii2 жыл бұрын
The lecture is great and educational. And professor Snyder is brilliant as usual. A huge remark for DW: “please do not use “crisis” word to describe what is happening in Ukraine right now, because it’s WAR”
@DWGlobalMediaForum2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your comment - and just a quick clarification: DW, our video description, and Professor Snyder himself name the invasion of Ukraine as war frecuently. The title for his talk that includes the word "crisis" stems from the overarching look at conflicts and wars over time that Professor Snyder takes here and does not wish to diminish the current war.
@lancehilt75362 жыл бұрын
It certainly is a war now, and will only get worse, thanks to the refusal to negotiate.
@mishaknopkin21999 ай бұрын
Ukrainian propagandist in our America, not historian
@maghdean2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Prof. Snyder! Warmest greetings and deep gratitude from Ukraine!
@mishaknopkin21992 жыл бұрын
Crimea is Russia. PriVet iZ Ameriki.
@erithion2 жыл бұрын
@@mishaknopkin2199 then why has your bridge been looking so tired lately? здаров от военкома, которьій тебя уже давно разьіскивает. жди звонок по вотсапу
@patternrecon52712 жыл бұрын
Keith Woods: "russian" oligarchs. Igor Kolomoisky. Great russian famine, Holodomor, Famine in Khazakhstan, Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, Aron Solts, Filipp Goloshchyokin, Yakov Yurovsky, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Naftaly Frenkel, Salomon Morel, Helena Brus. Ereget Raschi Erod.22 30 Baba Mezia 114b Libbre David 37 Sabba Mecia 114,6. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D. Tosefta. Aboda 8, 5, Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia
@tlcservisesfbtm22712 жыл бұрын
@@mishaknopkin2199, wrong. Robbery by Putin's thugs don't make it a part of Russia. Crimea is an integral part of UKRAINE 🌾
@mishaknopkin21992 жыл бұрын
@@tlcservisesfbtm2271 Really? I am Russian American for 31 years. Big man in science in one of the most famous corporations of America. My daughter is taught in American school (very good area) that Crimea is Russian de-facto because they all speak Russian there. Our President Trump says the same and Musk. For us Americans de-facto now means de-jure tomorrow.
@mawmiernyalewierny17702 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more knowledgeable people like you Sir. world would be a better place. And I wish those in the position of power listen to you. I salute you Sir!!!
@marlowc23242 жыл бұрын
This is such an important talk -- especially with the questioner regarding the global south
@justinemot22822 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Timothy's empathy is incredible! He is not from Ukraine or Northern Africa but he is so understandable & respects people living there as if his own. Our troubles are close to his heart
@SigMaQuint2 жыл бұрын
That is a great compliment to an american.
@briseboy2 жыл бұрын
Justine! You, also are beyond any other value to us ALL! From a far Pacific shore, I treasure YOU.
@galanis38 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Snyder's views are not at all objective. They are tainted by ideology including a vehement anti-Russia ideology, and distort historical facts in subservience to this ideology.
@ZemplinTemplar7 ай бұрын
His empathy is a wonderful superpower that every historian should have.
@mishaknopkin21997 ай бұрын
Timothy is not historian he is an ordinary bandera propagandist. Now most of South-Eastern Ukraine is officially Russia again. By the will of their people who voted 95% on Referendums to go back to Russia. Odessa and Har'kov to come soon. I am Russian American for 33 years. I respect Democracy that is why I hate Snider's lies. His audio-book on "Russo-Ukrainian war" is not available in our country. Gey to the remaining Ukraine soon-to-be-Poland Timoshka.
@laraevans89872 жыл бұрын
Dr. Timothy Snyder is brilliant. Bloodlands rocked my world. I have a degree in history, my father was born in Skopje Yugoslavia in 1938 . I thought I knew a lot about ww2, but, I learned so much from this book. All of his books are amazing. Every interview, talks he has given, he is so empathetic and explains events so well. Dr. Snyder, you are a treasure.
@christianebehr138 Жыл бұрын
I want to thank your ever so much for the very good presentation and information . In a small part of our past I enjoy listening to your explanation . Greetings from Christiane Berlin Germany
@mykolaj11102 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Timothy Snyder for his support of Ukraine, as well as his study and clarification of Ukrainian history.
@Jeanne902757 ай бұрын
Timothy Snyder is a gift.
@antoninamemi65872 жыл бұрын
more people need to hear this, share it and spread it as much as possible on social media, ask your friends to share, we all can do our part to make a difference in the world.
@lylaclark39772 жыл бұрын
Just shared this with 3 others 👍👍...it should be shared! Professor Snyder is Cassandra who must be listen to this time Pre Global Famine...for Ukraine , Asia, Africa and the West to have the true narrative and agency to hold Putin totally, and esp politically, responsible for all he does now in blockcading Ukraine Ports and causing Global Famine in Asia and Africa. President Biden draws on Timothy Snyder historian's knowledge on Ukraine and so must we and current Journalists now . Putin is Solely Responsible for the lack of grain to Asia Africa etc
@bellilly2 жыл бұрын
love your shirt, dr. snyder
@bosapani2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Excellent !
@nikkivieler37612 жыл бұрын
Timothy Snyder is great, thank goodness that all of us make errors when being presented in front of large amounts of people ;) :D
@ardogast2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Prof. Snyder! Crimes committed by Soviets in the past are repeating, because of lack of coverage and misleading narrative back then. It is critical for future generations to learn this lesson.
@KatyYoder-cq1kcАй бұрын
Correct. Lord destroy all the works of the Enemy in the World and diabolical plans to destroy nations and people. Cast all Evil spirits trying to keep all people bound to the pit of hell today with malicious AI, fear and oppression. God we cry out that you would deal with all those engaging in evil, sever all ties and bind up evil, returning them to Hell I pray for lost souls, that they would repent and get saved, but if not render them powerless and unable to attack me. Make null and void their assignments against me this very day. I plead the blood of Jesus over myself and the victims of violence, torture and wickedness . Wash us anew in Jesus's holy name. Amen
@marlowc23242 жыл бұрын
Amnesty International should make this required viewing
@hannak01922 жыл бұрын
Right after they get rid of all Russian money in their pockets
@mishaknopkin21997 ай бұрын
@@hannak0192 As Russian American for 33 years I will tell you the truth. Amnesty International was the only Western organization who made a detailed report of War crimes from bandera Ukraine. They used people as a shield. And now Timoshka-the-bandera under our American investigation.
@natmerc4982 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally someone is explaining this!
@annabarabanna76682 жыл бұрын
Дякую.
@joiedevie39012 жыл бұрын
Чудова презентація.
@MrFrumos2 жыл бұрын
So brilliant speech and so great lecture! Thank you so much.
@awonoto2 жыл бұрын
yalecourses youtube channel just started to upload what will be a semester long of class on "The Making of Modern Ukraine," lectured by none other than prof. Timothy Snyder. I for one will watch the entirety of the course (at this moment there are two classes up).
@Jakob_DK2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is really great. I recomend looking it up and listening to the lectures.
@laraevans89872 жыл бұрын
Also, Dr. Snyder, love the shirt. Love that you lost the formal shirt/tie thing. You are a rock star of history.
@JustAsPlanned12 жыл бұрын
A shirt with ethnic ukrainian print. What a nice guy he is
@DianaHorshckova2 жыл бұрын
WOW, what a vishyvancka, very beautiful 😍 I have great respect for the Professor, I listen to lectures about my country. 🙏Thank you to every country and every person for such strong support of my country! 🇺🇦 This will be our joint victory 🇺🇦💪🌻❤️
@briseboy2 жыл бұрын
To readers- that's an embroidered shirt she speaks of. Professor Snyder jets around the world constantly, when he's not teaching, to spread understanding. The kindest, most empathic historian I know of, healing us all.
@ashleyupshall7641 Жыл бұрын
Diana, we are with you all the way. I have visited Ukraine many times and would love to go back there. The Ukrainian country and its people are in many peoples thoughts and they will prevail. Hang on in there and I hope peace comes to you soon.
@PetroRyndych2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you are doing
@sherrillwhately75862 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that self-criticism of focusing too much on what’s in Putin’s head rather than on what he’s doing on the ground.
@Aussieuke2 жыл бұрын
Thank you professor for a clear description of the current situation and highlighting under-used thinking with a historical context and understanding. Journalists need to explain clearly what they want to say and translate correctly instead of allowing the population to depend upon the basic 'translator' programs that originated in Russia ,to some extent, and still do not clearly translate the content and feelings clearly or correctly.
@Alina-dw2lg2 жыл бұрын
Professor Snyder is the best. The world would be a better place if he was everyone's history professor 💙💛
@Jakob_DK2 жыл бұрын
He is in a way. His lectures from Yale at Ukrainian history are going on KZbin as the semester progresses.
@chubbychops10002 жыл бұрын
The first lesson which is becoming an integral part of Ukrainian consciousness is that russia has never had and never will have any other interest in Ukraine beyond total destruction of the Ukrainian nation. (Ivan Drach, leader of Rukh) Dr. Snyder you are brilliant. To Gareth Jones.....THANK YOU
@anastasiiaskurativska11622 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent, deep analysis!
@juanfervalencia2 жыл бұрын
Tim Snyders is a beautiful genious
@edwardb78112 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@marlowc23242 жыл бұрын
of course the Ukrainian has the best question of the entire talk
@lenas62465 ай бұрын
bruh
@dariiazinchenko16452 жыл бұрын
Strong, simple and clear argumentation. Superb!
@DWGlobalMediaForum2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@victorrud70672 жыл бұрын
The starvation in 1932-33 was in fact fairly well known in Europe at the time, but only subsequently was quashed.
@gamingforfun45542 жыл бұрын
great
@frederikbjerre4272 жыл бұрын
There is a lot to be learnt from professor Snyder, i hope the politicians are listening.
@ЛюбовІванівна-у6ю2 жыл бұрын
Dr Timothy Snyder, big thanks from Ukraine 🇺🇦
@garfieldbraithwaite85902 жыл бұрын
Tim Snyder is the right man in the right place at the right time. God bless and keep Ukraine
@MagmaleV2 жыл бұрын
Great speech to listen if the world don't want dark times of 20th century to return
@moscownevereversleeps2 жыл бұрын
The dark times when the powers that be of the US financed Adolf Hitler and his party, right? The dark times in 1938 when the USA,the UK and some other European countries cut a horrible deal with the same Hitler in Munich. Thanks, no more of your BS, please
@drreaganeliedithphd65262 жыл бұрын
Nous devons informer Afrique l’importance d’Ukraine ❤
@natalka71572 жыл бұрын
This is eye opening! Thank you for bringing this information to us!❤
@_masssk_2 жыл бұрын
Mad, that dude should have a medal of honor from Ukraine
@jasonsmith1155 Жыл бұрын
At least he gives guys like Ray Mcgovern a hearty laugh everytime he opens his mouth, I'll give him that much.
@kyivstuff2 жыл бұрын
Important
@Baslium Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has fed the world for thousands of year.
@CostPanteley7 ай бұрын
Thank you professor Timothy Snyder for your interference! Today, even politicians fall into the weakness of forming their perception of the world from clickbaits. Often, having high education they even don't have knowledge of History.
@DrHydro-mq7sw2 жыл бұрын
Der Snyder ist ja ansonsten echt klasse. Aber das mit dem ukrainischen Hemd ist aber ein wenig dick aufgetragen.
@jamesmilichich66932 жыл бұрын
Thing is things are happening in the world today that we don’t know a thing about. How do we understand ourselves today. I hear the word “narrative” a lot lately.
@RadheShyam-zy6bf Жыл бұрын
Thanks media cauvreg....
@henrikkrogh65242 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with snyder's way of thinking: It's not specifically an only Ukrainian experience in Europe to have been at the receiving end of 'colonialism' or 'Exploitation' or simply just have one's land stolen, the people massacred and simply taken over by other people: it's a very European experience to have been victims of that. Ofcourse if one one view Europe's history through the lens of the winners of Europe's history; France, UK, Germany, Spain, Sweden and a few others, it might look like Europeans always were the 'subjects' and not the 'objects' . But consider the history of Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Bretagne, Burgundy, Poland, Baltic countries, Norway, Denmark and countless other nations who either got exterminated, more or less enslaved, had different cultures and religion forced upon them, or maybe for the very few 'lucky loosers', managed by sheer luck and chance of history to hold on to a little patch of their own once 'core area' and thus today exists as tiny European nations. Those countries and those nations have quite different experiences than 'England' who builded an empire.
@HandleGF2 жыл бұрын
Snyder is an ignorant Yank, that's all.
@cenccenc9462 жыл бұрын
well, everyone got colonized at some point. For example, the romans colonized most of europe at one time or another. His point is specific to the end game of colonization the era; and those that don't want it to end. Where boarders, cultures, languages, etc are no longer respected in Europe; and along with that democracy and freedoms. If you dont believe they have a right to exist, why bother worrying about all their other rights?
@the_exiled_soul2 жыл бұрын
Very good point Henrik! Very true !
@henrikkrogh65242 жыл бұрын
@@cenccenc946 Yes, most got colonized and it seems to me that the real difference is how a people/nation chooses to relate to that fact, in their telling of their own history.
@scythermantis2 жыл бұрын
This 100%; it is highly ironicthat the main 'winners' in WWI and WWII, the 'Allies', were actually those nations with colonial empires historically (with some minor exceptions) and that many nations such as India, Indonesia, Burma, Vietnam, etc. received independence as a direct result of aligning with the 'axis powers" (also there are even vestiges of this today found in the notable presence of 'Nazis' within the Ukrainian Nationalist movement). History is complicated and a cartoon character narrative is unhelpful.
@dichebach2 жыл бұрын
The question I would have loved to pose to Professor Snyder is, could Obama have prevented this war by leading NATO countries to courageously support Ukraine sufficiently back in 2014 through to the end of his final term in 2016 and deter Russia?
@SRaskin-bt3ep2 жыл бұрын
🇺🇦
@lyudmilamusiyenko99432 жыл бұрын
brilliant mind, what else can you say
@briseboy2 жыл бұрын
Hearing this discussion rather late, a few points remain worth mention: When we hear large numbers we are often falling prey to the dissociation involved in a statement attributed to Stalin, "If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics." The given 4 million starved is better noted in two ways, the first, easy: 1. the world's humans are now some 4 times in number. Therefore, 16 million equivalent is a better sociological mass measurement. The second, is that we, as individuals can only understand intimately a maximum of in the range of about 150 others. This is the cognitive limit repeatedly found - beyond that number our human brains tend to shift into such biased problematic heuristic distillations as Generalization and Stereotyping. We de-individualize, and experiences such as suffering , identity, ALL the unique characteristics of irreplaceable individuality, affection, love itself, disappears. So, 2. You can only truly experience your affiliative, familial, emotional response with and through other INDIVIDUALS. ALL ethics, all comprehension, all actual cognition comes directly, exclusively, SOLELY from this. It is NOT dissociable. My own training , though reaching to the cognitions of all animals, and through similar hormones and attractions/repulsions of other organisms, includes the neurological reality I emphasize. I have, as you have, ONLY met individuals. Members of South Asian, East, high North, and distinct areas of Africa - the second hugest continent, remember, EACH individually differ. Cultural differences, while forming our perceptions and outlooks, pale in comparison to individuals. When we peruse the past, it is only the photos of sufferers that grab our attention, because they depict individuals, even if they are photos of high numbers. Our pity, so closely bonded in our brains with love, compassion, attachment and loss, is only separated by acquired assumptions gained slowly, separation not fully gained, until adulthood. Yes, there exist individuals who have early learned to dissociate from all other life. These are rightly recognized by researchers to be aberrant personalities - and I remind you that "personality" is directly taken from the Latin "persona" meaning Mask - along a spectrum we call the "Dark Triad" or Dark Tetrad." That related combination of perception includes emotionally cold, callousness, manipulative Machiavellianism, and the solipsistic Narcissism that varies from overly self-protective to aggressively, malignantly pre-emptively violent. The latter, and all to some extent, can be associated not only with self-protection, but also with what in psychology is called Sadism- pleasure at the success of doing violence to another person or organism. Yes, strangers can excite us, for very good reason I cannot fit into this comment, but inordinate fear can be aroused. THIS is another inculcated variable, a matter of modeling, inadvertent teaching by adults important to the very young. I happen to suffer neither pleasure nor the fear and horror when seeing photos. being subject instead to the pain, the pity of incapacity to ability to remedy. You will notice, should you encounter injured, ill, in reality, to the impulse to DO something remedial. Hold to this. Dzhugashvili was WRONG. (Stalin merely means "man of steel", a sobriquet indicative to admirers of his acquired personality)
@mishaknopkin21999 ай бұрын
Ukrainian propagandist in our America, not historian.
@cam58062 жыл бұрын
З яких джерел пан Тімоти Снайдер узяв цифру в 4 млн смертей? Як мінімум існує три основних наукових підходи щодо визначення втрат України - і найменша цифра - 6 млн...
@thomaskalbfus20052 жыл бұрын
Why can't Africa and Asia feed itself? Dependence on imported food is a bad idea. Ukraine is not the OPEC of food, food can be grown in a ,ot of places. So why aren't Africans growing their own food?
@a.noumen2 жыл бұрын
cost of production, abundance of water and fertile soil, climate conditions, short links to fertilizer production, there are lots of reasons that make it economically sane
@thomaskalbfus20052 жыл бұрын
@@a.noumen there are a lot of people in Africa and Asia, it's hard to believe that the populations there could have gotten so high if they were unable to produce their own food. There are not a lot of people in Siberia for instance, mostly because the climate is not optimal for growing food due to the cold. There aren't a billion people in Siberia importing food so they can eat.
@dennyli93392 жыл бұрын
Fertiliser is expensive....and seeds are controlled by Monsanto
@Jakob_DK2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskalbfus2005 As the professor explains. The area now Ukraine exported food to Athens 2500 years ago and is still fertile land with a huge food surplus. Other places make different things, that is how they traded 2500 years ago and how they trade now.
@catc89272 жыл бұрын
Climate change is wrecking agriculture, which is hitting poor countries hardest. There have been prolonged droughts in North and East Africa for the last few years, along with a huge months-long locust swarm last year, that have devastated their crops. That’s part of what’s fueling the rise of migrants fleeing to Europe.
@blanvoizer95386 ай бұрын
Deliberate world starvation. Why?
@adriaanvanbrugge19602 жыл бұрын
I must admit I almost violently disagee with thé suggestion that thé représentatives of thé media of thé Global South should now descend en masse upon Kiev. First of all I absolutely agree with thé young African gentleman who pointed out that thé Western media, with their far superior budgets, infrastructure and institutional memory should have reported adequately on thé crucial importance of Ukraine in the global food supply chaîns, and thé abundantly clear conséquences of its disruption that even you admit were very obvious and prédictible. Second of all Kiev and Ukraine need less drama than they already have, not more and thé Global South journalists should rather descend upon Moscow, Berlin and Paris where thé crucial décision relating to Ukraine and therefore its exportable produce are being made. Third of all thé history of Ukraine is not only thé history of a colonised space and largely quasi-enslaved and exploitéd local peasant population but it is as well thé history of thé Kievan Rus, a vast, mighty and rich state which gave Orthodox Chrstianity to this whole part of thé continent, was for centuries an impressive melting pot of cultures, peoples and religions and it was indeed thé true founder of thé entire culture of today's Russia, and not its periphery. Fourth of all thé journalists are not thé héros of our time at all if they continously fail to report on thé origins and causes of thé approaching global famine. Fifth of all Gareth Jones got killed for reporting on the Hlodomor in thé 1930's and thé movie "Mr Jones" directed by A. Holland tells that story if anyone's interested. Then finally if you avocate and preach about thé importance of history then as a historian yourself you might want to consider quitting to présent its doctored and oversimplified interprétations, and especially engagé yourself in current geopolitical évents by advocation obvious and manipulative non-solutions. And it is an absolute disgrace on your part not to reply factualy and competently at all to the extremely éloquent and relevant question of thé young Ukraininan lady while at thé same time you dared to suggest Ukraine should not bé considéréd as an integral part of Europe but some kind of grain supplying hinterland instead which you actually did (between thé lines for thé most part).
@teodorarosa87012 жыл бұрын
Yes this man is biased or just not very bright. So many swallow his U. S. propaganda. He does not teach, he indoctrinates.
@sofiakoblasa75802 жыл бұрын
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@LoganCTanner2 жыл бұрын
YOOOO DOCTOR BOODLE WTF WHY YOU IN MY GERMAN NEWS
@bogoljubrakic31692 жыл бұрын
I searched on KZbin: Timothy Snyder on Palestinians and Curds suffering ??? Haven't found a single article. I am just wandering: Most historians and scholars, who are passionate about Ukraine are silent about suffering of other nationalities. This is not the case with Professor John Mishimer, Jeffry Sachs, Stephen Cohen,. Almost forgot an icon Roger Waters. Almost forgot an icon Roger Waters.
@cudanmang_theog2 жыл бұрын
Arabs in 7th century after conquering Byzantine territory: let's replace those infidels with us! Arabs in Israel be like: we wuz palestinian
@remizolya2 жыл бұрын
Snyder is specializing on Eastern Europe (not only Ukraine but other countires in the region), this is just subject he chose many years ago and he now has opportunity to speak up since he is one of the most knowledgeable in this subject. I am sure there are historians specializing in the Middle East who could do the same and probably they did. It’s a pure whataboutism to blame people who talk about war in Ukraine for not talking about other wars
@carlosorellana51542 жыл бұрын
Your publications and videos all prove you are a serious scholar. Now this talk! Something is wrong. Things do not match. You are turning the interpretation of events, including past history, on its head. A circuit in your brain has gotten the wires crossed.
@DWGlobalMediaForum2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? We thought his argumentation in this talk is quite congruent with his further work.
@a.noumen2 жыл бұрын
i don’t really get what you are implying either
@paulgrieve70312 жыл бұрын
I was supposed to be friends with this guy. Who talks like that? Weird. He has talents but no character, no depth nor real understanding.
@yeahnah72202 жыл бұрын
Play the ball not the man. We're all weirdos, you weirdo. Finally, may I ask what he's talents are that you mention?
@paulgrieve70312 жыл бұрын
We may have a language that suits everyone? Perfectionist born again stuff. Ukraine has to make peace with Russia. Ukraine needs freedom and independence. Why would they join the eu if free, only to antagonise Russia on behalf of the USA. Ukraine needs freedom from these superpowers whether old or new. Ukraine like all countries needs freedom to grow not be dictated to by nice Americans. He knows a lot of facts and languages but lacks creativity and is just annoying. Like a leader of a sect that has all the answers. He’s given the floor and waffles on and is revered for it. No thanks!
@123axel1232 жыл бұрын
Historian or a feel-good kind of guy? He is calling Trump and Orban fascist. Linking them to Putin is ridiculous. Like calling "wolf" He also calls Putin is a colonialist. I can agree, but so is the US. Colonial war and control in Iraq and maybe even Israel, and certainly Taiwan.
@a.noumen2 жыл бұрын
>but so is US he say’s this too really, if look he’s lectures
@Jakob_DK2 жыл бұрын
CPAC HUNGARY links Orban to the republicans in USA and the special gas and oil deals between Orban and Putin while Orban blocked EU sanctions towards Russia kind of also link them. And have you forgotten the Helsinki meeting?
@TheChromanoise2 жыл бұрын
@@a.noumen agreed. That means you moral euros will stop leeching off of US military aid. Right?