Meet the 'Black Diggers:' The Russians Robbing WW2 Graves

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@АлександрЛебедев-н4л
@АлександрЛебедев-н4л 7 жыл бұрын
The title is misleading. The diggers in the film are recovering identities of the fallen soldiers to help their living relatives reach closure which is a good thing and worthy of respect. And this is the conclusion of the last minute of this documentary too. Why call these people robbers in the title?
@arafchowdhury4771
@arafchowdhury4771 4 жыл бұрын
Because they are Russian
@arafchowdhury4771
@arafchowdhury4771 4 жыл бұрын
I’m just kidding but relax my friend. That is the whole discussion of the video the point of it is to discuss whether these people are doing something immoral or just some harmless way to make money
@andmicbro1
@andmicbro1 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps because they are trying to dispel the myth? Like people call them grave robbers, but once they investigated it they found they weren't just there for monetary gains. Also, it's technically illegal what they are doing, even if it's somewhat noble. At least they were able to show there's some nuance.
@BenSTA09
@BenSTA09 4 жыл бұрын
Judge a book by it's cover much?
@bmwjojo2378
@bmwjojo2378 3 жыл бұрын
Oh for a second I thought this was gonna be super disrespectful
@ashketchum351
@ashketchum351 9 жыл бұрын
"In World War 2 thousands of soldiers were killed on the border of Germany and Russia." I think you mean millions of soldiers, Vice...
@mistaflippyiv4114
@mistaflippyiv4114 9 жыл бұрын
Unlikely, considering the entire war took around 50 million lives, civilians take up a huge part of that as well as the Russians on the eastern front.
@000Zritel
@000Zritel 9 жыл бұрын
MISTA FLIPPY IV About 27 million Russians died during the WW2
@phil__K
@phil__K 9 жыл бұрын
***** * 27 million Soviet Citizens.
@DamonCassada345
@DamonCassada345 9 жыл бұрын
Well, thanks for spoiling C&C Red Alert 2 for me.
@lachlanallen341
@lachlanallen341 9 жыл бұрын
***** Germany and Russia do not border each other though..... There are multiple countries in between them like Poland and Ukraine.
@deshk8376
@deshk8376 9 жыл бұрын
both of my great grandfathers died for USSR during world war 2, and we never heard from them, or how they died. I hope they can find them.
@deshk8376
@deshk8376 8 жыл бұрын
Ich Kämpfe No idea how or where, or even when.
@n.k.6468
@n.k.6468 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, but there is a website in Russian that has a database of the known fallen soldiers that served in USSR. www.obd-memorial.ru/html/index.html If you know their names and dates of birth, there might be a chance of finding them there
@jaydengray4015
@jaydengray4015 4 жыл бұрын
Ich Kämpfe ahhhh one of my arch enemies I see
@jaydengray4015
@jaydengray4015 4 жыл бұрын
Ich Kämpfe nazis were not truly socialists. They were extremely far right.
@jaydengray4015
@jaydengray4015 4 жыл бұрын
Ich Kämpfe I agree with that
@slither42
@slither42 9 жыл бұрын
its not really "graves" that they are digging up. its not like its a WW2 cemetery that they are sneaking into, its bodies in the middle of nowhere that have been lost and forgotten. most of which were not properly buried in the first place. making this illegal will only make it harder for the bodies to be identified and given a proper burial.
@emborg3145
@emborg3145 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I also don't like the fact the Vice seems to like calling people who wear the German uniforms Nazis.
@AceCombat6842
@AceCombat6842 4 жыл бұрын
So your ok with these people selling these mens wedding rings, gold teeth, watches, uniform insignia, pictures of their loved ones on ebay or to be sold on the web to some neonazi wannabe! For the next reenactment??? Its disgusting!
@utharkruna1116
@utharkruna1116 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@julianbernard7442
@julianbernard7442 4 жыл бұрын
@@emborg3145 i Live in Germany and most of the people owning this kind of stuff ar far right or nazis
@chitown3368
@chitown3368 4 жыл бұрын
@@AceCombat6842 if they're the bodies of German soldiers, then absolutely.
@AmazingMojo2567
@AmazingMojo2567 9 жыл бұрын
military freaks? These people allow others to know what these soldiers went through.... they aren't freaks...
@jaredneaves7007
@jaredneaves7007 6 жыл бұрын
AmazingMojo2567 he meant enthusiasts. Poorly translated
@leogendary133
@leogendary133 5 жыл бұрын
You mean an otaku or sports fan?
@wiegershitpostcollective
@wiegershitpostcollective 4 жыл бұрын
@no To be fair, they say it is because the government cant do a proper job or that it takes to long for them to do it at all... If they really have the best intentions and do it with respect then it wouldn't be as bad as it sounds.
@miguelsanchez6465
@miguelsanchez6465 4 жыл бұрын
no they dont you idiot!!!! archeologists do that not grave robbers, fuck why are you all soooooooo fucking stupid!!!! you should all be sterilized and not allowed to reproduce!
@SaranshTiku1
@SaranshTiku1 5 жыл бұрын
"Politeness is a conversation between two well armed gentlemen" LMAO that is so true
@chimp9465
@chimp9465 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, 5 years ago, back when wearing a mask was to hide yourself... good times...
@Tummyasmr
@Tummyasmr 4 жыл бұрын
It still is.....
@moltar2000
@moltar2000 9 жыл бұрын
Most people who are talking shit here clearly haven't watched the video. Vice made a sensational title to evoke your feelings, and you swallowed it. There isn't a single instance of them showing grave digging. These are fallen soldiers who were not buried properly. And these people are actually helping to identify these soldiers and have even setup unofficial graves, because government cooperation is taking forever.
@shawnli9775
@shawnli9775 5 жыл бұрын
BlazingCobra 722 it’s all about views, not facts in title.
@themadmannn
@themadmannn 9 жыл бұрын
"These guys don't want to be exposed so lemme just film their car numbers and tell that they dig 4km west of moscow near the remains of some fortress"
@greatdiosghosties2762
@greatdiosghosties2762 5 жыл бұрын
I think he said 4 hours West of Moscow
@miguelsanchez6465
@miguelsanchez6465 4 жыл бұрын
i hope they get found and killed
@16Willmanutd
@16Willmanutd 4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelsanchez6465 why would you want that?
@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758
@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelsanchez6465 big words. You must be a kid
@miguelsanchez6465
@miguelsanchez6465 3 жыл бұрын
@@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758 big name you must be a kid or ignorant.
@Bradshaw237
@Bradshaw237 9 жыл бұрын
At first before I watched the video it seemed disrespectful, but honestly most of these soldiers weren't respectfully buried and have been forgotten, so it's cool that they can find out who they were.
@LinusLinothorax
@LinusLinothorax 9 жыл бұрын
"The Russians Robbing WW2 Graves" You couldnt find a more provocative title, right?
@edg6779
@edg6779 6 жыл бұрын
And let's also get our German journalist on this story.
@rerbitd7094
@rerbitd7094 5 жыл бұрын
Pay attention . Western media always remove masked people. Many people from other countries speak Russian.
@emborg3145
@emborg3145 4 жыл бұрын
Its Vice. You cant expect much quality from them. Or IQ.
@miguelsanchez6465
@miguelsanchez6465 4 жыл бұрын
that describes it perfectly
@mrFlowlessratMan
@mrFlowlessratMan 9 жыл бұрын
Did the bald guy mean that he doesn't have any hair because he lived near a chemical factory?
@GSicKz
@GSicKz 9 жыл бұрын
ye
@Baboonery_
@Baboonery_ 9 жыл бұрын
seems like it but explained poorly
@xcpaul01
@xcpaul01 9 жыл бұрын
ArthurKnoqOut Well it didn't seem like he spoke good English
@Visbalalam
@Visbalalam 9 жыл бұрын
xcpaul01 His english is actually pretty good, it was just that specific point wasn't clear
@thenoisyneighborbc
@thenoisyneighborbc 9 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that the chemical factories that he was referring to used Nazi slave labor.
@TheRetroLab
@TheRetroLab 9 жыл бұрын
I think its amazing that people are still finding artifacts and bodies from WWII. I also think these "Black diggers" aren't really grave robbing because the soldiers they found at the end had never been buried in a proper grave in the first place and if they are really trying to identify the fallen and repatriate the bodies then I also think that is a good thing because at least the decedents (if there are any) can finally find out what happened to their relatives.
@inducktrent9654
@inducktrent9654 9 жыл бұрын
dont surprize, It is vice style: All russians are bad
@phil__K
@phil__K 9 жыл бұрын
InDuckT Rent ?
@MB-oc1nw
@MB-oc1nw 9 жыл бұрын
20 million dead Russian soldiers and 10 million dead German soldiers equals plenty of bodies all over the place to dig up...
@MB-oc1nw
@MB-oc1nw 9 жыл бұрын
InDuckT Rent Take a look at who actually owns Vice and you'll see why that is. It's a propaganda organ designed to ensnare the younger audience who are too savvy for the MSM.
@davidgunshots2732
@davidgunshots2732 9 жыл бұрын
matthew bailey TRUTH!
@orirbjrk5573
@orirbjrk5573 4 жыл бұрын
From an archaeologist, for those who don't understand the difference of what we do and what these guys do. Archaeologists, while having to navigate bureaucracy to get the very right to dig, aren't solely interested in shiny things. Archaeologists a century ago were, but the field has evolved to consider more benign things like the overall context of the site, including things like where the artifact was found, where the body is lying, how they died, etc. We explore all of these things to understand what history may have forgotten. We analyze bones and discover things about the health and diet of the deceased. We look at fallen walls and determine how or why they fell, which helps us paint a complete picture of the scene. Because all of this work is done, and is associated with academic institutions, this information becomes accessible to the public. In this case the people seen are robbing graves for a profit, taking whats shiny and discarding the historical context. While some of them may have good intentions, there will inevitably be large details they miss or don't think to inspect, things will not be cataloged for research later once new technology surfaces, site maps will not be done, and DNA analysis, due to being high budget, is likely out of the question. So, in the event that years from now families search the area their loved ones were last seen, they will have little left for answers. This is history we will have forever lost and there will now be things we will never know about the conflict on the eastern front. These people are little more than metal scrappers stealing copper wire.
@DimJongUn
@DimJongUn 2 жыл бұрын
True, but it's Russia. You would need to change the entire dynamic of that country to be able to preserve, let alone excavate these sites properly. At least they passed a law, that's a step in the right direction.
@Strozerg
@Strozerg 9 жыл бұрын
I don't get all the hate. If it wasn't for these guys, these soldiers would've remained unfound.
@OliverFlinn
@OliverFlinn 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget all the explosives they found
@MB-oc1nw
@MB-oc1nw 9 жыл бұрын
Bearded Euro hipster finds WWII reenactment absurd...how shocking.
@MattAlexanderMe
@MattAlexanderMe 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he would be annoying even without his manbun. rolling his eyes, closed mind.
@AceCombat6842
@AceCombat6842 4 жыл бұрын
Yet doesnt bat an eye at digging up sombodies long lost son so they can sell his buttons on ebay! WTF VICE? You need to come clean and report these grave robbing sacks of shit to the russian gov! Do the right thing or I will!!! Easy enough to figure out where they are digging! The fact that you encouraged your reporter to even do this is beyond fucked up!
@Parabellum92
@Parabellum92 4 жыл бұрын
Haha agreed. Maybe the same Nazi uniform he's bitching about comes from the same designer as his suave coat and he doesn't realize it.
@TheGreekSpawn
@TheGreekSpawn 9 жыл бұрын
As a WW2 collector myself, I find this great. And I like how they can find gear like candy in places like Kharkov, Volgograd etc.
@jimparsons9454
@jimparsons9454 3 жыл бұрын
No one should ever disturb the remains of the dead.
@ghillzballer
@ghillzballer 9 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ that poor guy has no hair because he grew up near a chemical factory! Holy shit!
@TrueEaglesFan
@TrueEaglesFan 9 жыл бұрын
Either someone digs up the graves today and sells the artifacts in order to survive, or some anthropologist comes along a thousand years form now and digs up the graves anyway. That's assuming the human race will even last that long...
@salemmariearvini
@salemmariearvini 5 жыл бұрын
As an archaeologist, you're not wrong. WW2 archaeology will eventually become a thing, whether in decades or centuries
@covenawhite4855
@covenawhite4855 4 жыл бұрын
Well archeologists publish Science Journals based of what they dig up that wind up in history textbooks
@maxmuller8633
@maxmuller8633 4 жыл бұрын
@L 024 Those weren't graves, the government did not bring them back to their families or gave them a proper burial. You fall for Vice's anti European propaganda, pathetic.
@extremistcontent1337
@extremistcontent1337 9 жыл бұрын
NO WAY! I messaged Vice ages ago saying they should make a documentary about black diggers and they actually did it! Thanks Vice! :D
@JanPospisilArt
@JanPospisilArt 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to be confused why metal detectoring would be illegal and why it's not considered archaeology. Archaeology isn't simply digging stuff up, you have to study for years to know how to do it properly. A lot of information can be gained during the dig, from the site itself, not just the finds. That's why looking at finds out of context is so much less valuable - you don't see how they were found, where, what else was nearby, in what layer of soil etc. All these things are properly documented during an archaeological dig. The other aspect is what happens with the finds. Archaeologists generally don't sell theirs and a lot of times they simply leave things in the ground and cover them up, because a bigger and better excavation is needed in the future. There's also the issue of land ownership - depending on the country and its laws the owner of the land might have a claim on all, or part of the reward for any finds from that land.
@TheVbelanic
@TheVbelanic 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is actually very respectful, none of these guys showed any sort of disrespect while digging they didn't just rip the remains out of the ground they carefully exhumed dead soldiers that have been lost and coml,etely forgotten about and totally abandoned by their own platoo s an or fellow comrades that were in this war together to look after one another but clearly the disrespect comes from neglecting to recover the bodies at the ti e of war or whenever the fighting stops in that particu,at area the so,die rd that lived shojld have brought all their men back I stead they were left not knowing who they were never giving closer to mothers and feathers or children of fallen ww2 parents that served that's not fair we as Canadians and a Eric and make sure we get our deceased soldiers home to be shown respect for giving up their lives fight for our country and the people of our country ? I have nothing but respect for these guys for taking their spare time to not only give these dead thier names and respect by finding living family members for them and what they do with the artifacts either give them to museums or sell them or give them to families of the dead or given back to the Russian military for thier records...all this to ,e I find is respectful and a lot better then sitting at home being unproductive playing video games or surfing the net cause they jobless but instead they found something to do with their time that is positive and doing it out of pocket with thier own expenses is just to show you that at they try in to be positive instead as many of us see today jobless people usually are either using lots of drugs or crimi ally causing problems in society kids from the project's could take some of this and find so egging positive to do instead of following the bad and becoming a statistic or a burden on society or Ben up dead or in prison or kill someone so Mic stupid choices made by the youth an young adults of today it was nice to see groups of young men and women doing something good and not another video of how shot th people are in th I world.......THE TITLE FOR THIS VIDEO IS TOTALLY MKSLEADING AND JUST GOES TO SHOW IGNORANCE TOWARDS GOOD RUSSIANS JUST TRYING TO LIVE LIFE AND TRYING TO DO GOOD INSTEAD OF MAKKNG STIPID CHOICES AND DPING SOMEGHING LIKE GOING TO AN ACTUAL GTAVEYARD DIGGJNG UP ALREADY AID TO REST PROPERLY SOLDIERS NKW THATS NO COOL AND THEY AKNT DOING THAT.....SENDING OUT A NEGATJVE VIBE THINKING E ABOUT TO WAGCH SKME FHCMDD UP SHIT BUG INSTEAD ITS TOTALLY OPPOSITE IN MY OPINION
@wynwilliams911
@wynwilliams911 8 жыл бұрын
Better that then the objects rot away and are lost forever
@filipinofear13
@filipinofear13 9 жыл бұрын
like he said ''its very good to rebury these soldiers the soldiers graves shouldnt be in the woods'' and i agree w that
@gabba1gabba1hey
@gabba1gabba1hey 9 жыл бұрын
Oh come the fuck on, dressing up like a German soldier for a reenactment is not weird. It's a part of history.it's not a Nazi uniform, it's a Wehrmacht uniform. The Nazi's were a political party. That's like saying a US soldier wears a democrat uniform because our president is a democrat. And this guy is GERMAN?? fucking progressive hipsters these days, its insufferable.
@Jacques834
@Jacques834 9 жыл бұрын
I really do not understand all this hate for Vice, Russians, black diggers... I just find it an interesting and informative documentary, with no judgement whatsoever. Who says it's propaganda is overthinking this.
@BorysPomianek
@BorysPomianek 9 жыл бұрын
***** "joined neo-nazi anti-russia" - that suggests you might be ever so slightly brainwashed by the Russian media into thinking that neo-nazi = anti-russia. Neo nazi groups in Europe have not been documented to speak against Russia or Russian interests and most of such groups seem to be very close in their expressed ideology with the conservative Russian views like being anti gay, anti jewish, anti immigrant... The cherry on top of this shitty cake is that the most extreme groups that identify as neo-nazi are actually in Russia and are often ignored by local law enforcement and are supportive of Putin's government. Putin is a neo-nazi and Russia is turning into a neo third reich under his leadership.
@tr1pl3str3ngth4
@tr1pl3str3ngth4 6 жыл бұрын
Putin and Tachanka are the same person.
@peachesandlily
@peachesandlily 9 жыл бұрын
They're giving the dead a second chance to tell their story...I think it's a beautiful thing. My 92 year old Grandfather fought in WWII, it could have easily been him in the ground instead.
@barnmuckinboystm7902
@barnmuckinboystm7902 4 жыл бұрын
For those confused by people against these guys grave robbing; imagine it was your grandfathers or fathers grave they dug up and sold their belongings. You'd feel differently.
@vnovoi
@vnovoi 2 жыл бұрын
I am totally convinced that Vice News is the next level and future of reporting. The "ground level" of story telling they bring to me is unprecedented. But on a counter note, I would really wish they translate the audio to English in all their packages.
@VICE
@VICE 9 жыл бұрын
A group of "black diggers" have come together to illegally unearth the remains of World War II soldiers and sell the military artifacts. Watch more stories from the global VICE family: bit.ly/VICE-INTL-
@Sperminski
@Sperminski 9 жыл бұрын
Jim Waddell Indeed why are these people falsely accused of grave robbing or better yet, what's your agenda Vice?
@mrstarfishh33
@mrstarfishh33 9 жыл бұрын
you mistranslated it to Hitlers entire defense was stopped it should be offense. Matter of fact this video has a lot of translation errors and spelling problems.VICE
@000Zritel
@000Zritel 9 жыл бұрын
In the end "vice 2013" is it a mistake? Or did you shoot this episode in 2013?
@SirNilzey
@SirNilzey 9 жыл бұрын
VICE Did you illiterate chucklefucks not proof-read your transcript or do honestly think "Moscow" is spelt "Mosocw"?
@DamonCassada345
@DamonCassada345 9 жыл бұрын
Vice, isn't it a little stereotypical of you to have Russians singing Katyusha? That's like if you featured French people dressed up as the 3 musketeers.
@user-no8gz5eb8g
@user-no8gz5eb8g 6 жыл бұрын
I find some trouble in calling these guys "military archaeologist," because when you think of archaeology it is mostly more academic with digging and cataloging and it goes somewhere, like a museum. With these guys they just take it and sell it where a lot of the historical value is lost. This is not to say that these guys aren't doing a specific type of history cataloging but it is closer to relic hunting and I think the distinction makes a big difference.
@omphya6229
@omphya6229 8 ай бұрын
this one goes out to all my black diggas 🔥🔥🔥
@IB2EZ2C
@IB2EZ2C 8 жыл бұрын
Those rusty 'battlefield recovered' WW2 artifacts on EBAY come from somewhere............
@edg6779
@edg6779 6 жыл бұрын
Recovered helmets and barbed wire seem to be the most commonly listed. "a listing said: Soviet pot is the biggest, haha"
@hipopotomusman
@hipopotomusman 4 жыл бұрын
the guy did say at the begining of the video, for him the war is not over until the last soldier is buried.
@IOooiiiooOI
@IOooiiiooOI 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever company you paid to subtitle this did a terrible job.
@hwong1776
@hwong1776 4 жыл бұрын
Can you explain? Curious
@minxjii7208
@minxjii7208 4 жыл бұрын
And we will never know
@TheMysteryNoob
@TheMysteryNoob 4 жыл бұрын
As a native speaker I also kinda agree, most of the times the subs were pretty ok but some parts like 16:40 the meaning and intentions seem to be altered by the wrong choice of words and sentences
@splatm4n8
@splatm4n8 4 жыл бұрын
This video makes it look like what these people are doing in wrong, in fact what they are doing for these fallen forgotten soldiers is very respectful and great!
@battleshipfleet
@battleshipfleet 8 жыл бұрын
Those weapons and soldiers should stay at rest. not dug up and weapons sold. those weapons are symbolic of what they were using to defend themselves
@stevemiller6766
@stevemiller6766 7 жыл бұрын
In the process of digging these things up they dispose of hazardous ordinance that could injure a passerby. Yeah so they make a buck on junk - what of it? They pass along the fallen's ID to the families when they can and return the bones to a graveyard from the forest. I say get all the junk and the fallen soldiers out of the forest and disposed of properly instead of just letting it sit around for the unknowing to discover and possibly hurt someone.
@cadianloyalist
@cadianloyalist 7 жыл бұрын
I am glad the journalist had an unbiased mind set stepping into this story...
@malarky345
@malarky345 9 жыл бұрын
9:20 such is life in the zone
@EnpiGB
@EnpiGB 9 жыл бұрын
Get out of here S.T.A.L.K.E.R!
@cykablyat8010
@cykablyat8010 9 жыл бұрын
4:15 OBVIOUSLY THAT FROG WANTED TO CROSS THE ROAD. JUST PUT HIM BACK ON THE SIDE HE WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM. JUSTICE FOR FROGS
@funkervogt47
@funkervogt47 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Vice sent a nihilist-looking German to do this.
@jamaldhard
@jamaldhard 9 жыл бұрын
Great piece I wish it were a longer video
@mmafan1775
@mmafan1775 9 жыл бұрын
As someone who was in the infantry if I was killed in battle I wouldn't care if someone were to dig up my stuff. Im dead...I don't need it. I have other stuff to worry about. Like being dead.
@nicha112
@nicha112 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing piece VICE! This is what I expect from you.
@stsk7
@stsk7 7 жыл бұрын
Incredible. I would love to go out and dig with them. What amazing history lies beneath the surface!
@coreystarke2997
@coreystarke2997 9 жыл бұрын
Vice is Nice..real, unflattering, candid and splendid!
@strangefolkprimary4837
@strangefolkprimary4837 9 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen vice go into a story with the intent to make fun of the guys and come out with a different perspective. Good for them.
@yazansakran3326
@yazansakran3326 9 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary +Vice
@alexforspeed
@alexforspeed 9 жыл бұрын
Why all the hate on Russia? USA has done lots of bad stuff aswell. I'm not on anyone's side just saying.
@johnsmith-si8ee
@johnsmith-si8ee 6 жыл бұрын
Russia is a dictatorship, something that is rampant with corruption and bullshit. Dictatorships stand against democracy. So they stand against America.
@predragsimic1505
@predragsimic1505 6 жыл бұрын
ohhhh my god John ?Go to Moscow or any other city and RUssia in total explore abd you will see ...in USA you have so much homlese people and gang shuting on streets and gehetos ..you dont have that in Russia ...you and your democracy bulshit ...
@ColonizerChan
@ColonizerChan 6 жыл бұрын
john smith Says the guy who forgets political parties kill people here too and our government has spies on us, among other Orwellian shit. But please go on and tell me how one powerful government is different from another?
@porkcutlet3920
@porkcutlet3920 6 жыл бұрын
john smith You sound brainwashed.
@bhirawaanoraga4953
@bhirawaanoraga4953 6 жыл бұрын
The point is, Politics are shit
@MrInterestingWorld
@MrInterestingWorld 9 жыл бұрын
Misleading title but a GREAT documentary, thank you Vice.
@RedBaritonePlayer
@RedBaritonePlayer 9 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone else watched the whole video...
@blakeblack4105
@blakeblack4105 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating morals of these guys really inspiring spirits they have
@lucasgruber4995
@lucasgruber4995 6 жыл бұрын
Why does the "Spy Fox" has a Austrian military jacket lol
@ramblinbob1918
@ramblinbob1918 8 жыл бұрын
I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable having groups of people going around Gettysburg digging around for bodies who weren't professional archeologists.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 жыл бұрын
In the summer of 1941, the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union ... They always seem to skim past the Molotov-Ribbentrop part ...
@charliekeith11
@charliekeith11 9 жыл бұрын
I thin it's awesome that they are identifying these lost soldiers and trying to get them a proper burial. Then on top of that, both groups of diggers are well armed and don't try to kill each other. it's fascinating
@TyonKree
@TyonKree 9 жыл бұрын
God I love watching Vice from Germany... So the attack was "already" stopped at the Gates of Moscow. Well uhm so after 1000km(straight line from Kaliningrad to Moscow) and 6 months of advancing through the USSR. Not really sure if that counts as "already". Got a feeling its going to be even better.
@TyonKree
@TyonKree 9 жыл бұрын
"Nazi Uniforms" God I knew it... Its a Wehrmacht Uniform you idiot.
@TyonKree
@TyonKree 9 жыл бұрын
"Maksim Gun" Oh Vice...
@TyonKree
@TyonKree 9 жыл бұрын
And another Nazi Uniform that isn't one. Such is life in modern Germany.
@hauptmannjoachimtotenkopf6081
@hauptmannjoachimtotenkopf6081 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Very well said... these were my thoughts too when I read that at the beginning of the video... "Germany's attack was already stopped & couldn't even reach Moscow before it got pushed all the way back".. umm, id say it was more like: "Germany mowed East through thousands of kilometres of Russian land, pushing the unprepared Russians all to way to the gates of Moscow, before the tired German forces were forced to rest & recover, due to the huge & intense distance they had already pushed in such short time. The battle raged on for up to 2 more years, pushing back & forth, before the German war machine was eventually completely exhausted & could no longer attempt to push back, & the Russians with newly & continuously replenished forces from their limitless reserves, were able to start pushing the Germans back & eventually all the way back to Germany, with extraordinary losses on both sides."
@tomchu1985
@tomchu1985 9 жыл бұрын
"This war will go on until the last soldier is buried"
@Clonetrooper466
@Clonetrooper466 9 жыл бұрын
Why is "Sly Fox" wearing an Austrian army jacket with an Austrian badge:O?
@HazelnutPohl
@HazelnutPohl 9 жыл бұрын
+Clonetrooper466 reaaaally weird, I agree.
@jog1836
@jog1836 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah man really weird
@mikestckl6939
@mikestckl6939 4 жыл бұрын
when i saw that badge i thought i know that from somewhere but it doesnt look german nor russian , being austrian myself i feel stupid now for not recognizing it haha
@GSTargetSwe
@GSTargetSwe 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan seemed like a real cool lad.
@karatelxdd
@karatelxdd 9 жыл бұрын
This is both funny and sad to look at Vice News for me, especially the way they interview people, whose culture and environment is significantly different from European or other. Very often, the subtitles are not entirely true, that sometimes can significantly distort the tone and even the meaning of the utterance (especially last sentence about war). In addition, reading comments, you can see that people from some local problems highlighted in the report, constitute an opinion (usually negative or very negative) of an entire nationality, which is fundamentally wrong. This is a very clever and sophisticated propaganda.
@Andy_Classic
@Andy_Classic 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is when he saved the frog from getting ran over in the street. *So Wholesome*
@StarCrusher.
@StarCrusher. 9 жыл бұрын
Black Diggers you say? I think there's a spelling mistake in there somewhere.
@rockwood666
@rockwood666 9 жыл бұрын
アーケード You're new in the Interweb, right ?
@CrnogorskiNacionalista
@CrnogorskiNacionalista 9 жыл бұрын
アーケード You hear that sound?Its the sound of a joke flying over your head
@waldus6166
@waldus6166 9 жыл бұрын
StarCrusher hahaha
@vlad1889
@vlad1889 9 жыл бұрын
So....who is going to be the racist fuck that will finally spell it out for him? LOL
@2CrazEy1
@2CrazEy1 9 жыл бұрын
アーケード I will.. just replace D with the letter N.. LMAO
@endertheturk7794
@endertheturk7794 4 жыл бұрын
1:49 which country is Mosocw? I have never heard of it
@SDeww
@SDeww 8 жыл бұрын
voices too soft, music too loud, horrible hypster bearded lefty narrator
@ramO-jp8tp
@ramO-jp8tp 7 жыл бұрын
vice summed up in one comment
@brettdabeast97
@brettdabeast97 9 жыл бұрын
Nikita's friend is a straight up beast
@KingFluffs
@KingFluffs 9 жыл бұрын
Have they no respect for the dead? Unearthing graves. Disgusting.
@MrHellexe
@MrHellexe 8 жыл бұрын
these are not graves.
@KingFluffs
@KingFluffs 8 жыл бұрын
MrHellexe They're digging up dead bodies and stealing valuables. It's disgusting no matter who the person was when they were alive.
@Unit987654321
@Unit987654321 8 жыл бұрын
+KingFluffs These aren't graves. Soldiers died where fell. In field, in forests, in trenches and they never got proper burials. It's not even bodies, there are still entire minefields that haven't been cleared and it is dangerous to walk there. Tanks still stuck and buried under the ground with dead crew and working ammunition still inside. It has to be cleared and made safe. If you are really keen on hating someone, then please go and hate ISIS, someone everyone hates.
@Unit987654321
@Unit987654321 8 жыл бұрын
+KingFluffs That's in the case of when they are properly buried. Again, I tell you that many of these bodies still have live ammunition and explosives on them or near them. they need to be cleared. My father personally dug up 2 skeletons and a crate with 10 live grenades inside.
@KingFluffs
@KingFluffs 8 жыл бұрын
Unit987654321 But these Russians are taking every little thing that might be worth a ruble. There's a word for that. Grave robbing.
@macbookproearly2011
@macbookproearly2011 9 жыл бұрын
People have to eat, get it how you live it.
@franknash7878
@franknash7878 5 жыл бұрын
The bast part on watching this is knowing Vice is closing it's doors.
@nataliakojevnikova9357
@nataliakojevnikova9357 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry vice but I can not see it anymore. I really liked your movies, but since there is anti-Russian propogand its a little bit sad for me see this ridiculous stuff and how people react. My country is very very big and we have a lot of beautiful and kind people, and it is not locals fault that our country is so unhappy a lot of people in Russia suffering... I really dont know why do i write this, I just want you all people think about that now the media and government are manipulating just to make people agressive and stupid, cause smart person never will hate, It will have another things to do... We all create our world please dont be blind.
@RockySheperd
@RockySheperd 5 жыл бұрын
Peace to the fallen
@TheRootMessage
@TheRootMessage 9 жыл бұрын
Vice propaganda is great at selling fear... Stay open minded my friends.
@TheRootMessage
@TheRootMessage 9 жыл бұрын
collin ohlinger Because it's deeper than what they are showing you... Just like the "Somali Pirates" , the news makes them look like evil pirates, but it's a lot deeper than that, and they don't want you knowing. .. The truth is not given it's fought for. People go centuries to find one tiny truth, meanwhile everyone thinks the news is giving them 100% truth for free...
@GetOutsideYourself
@GetOutsideYourself 9 жыл бұрын
I have a friend in Russia who totally agrees. He says there's stuff in these videos that is just not normal, that a native Russian speaker, familiar with the culture would pick up on, that indicate that Vice isn't exactly telling the whole truth with these videos. Vice is in it to make money. This is infotainment, nothing more.
@jetsgo66
@jetsgo66 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah because the Somali pirates are truly just a group of really great guys on a boat outing.
@putriddespot116
@putriddespot116 9 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what's false about this video?
@FreshPrinceofBellaire
@FreshPrinceofBellaire 9 жыл бұрын
hey im subbed to you lol funny seeing u here
@LoreMasterIRL
@LoreMasterIRL 9 жыл бұрын
Nice that they got Adrien Brody to meet these guys
@DrFunkenstein69
@DrFunkenstein69 9 жыл бұрын
It's fucking sad going through this comment section. Not all of us are Putin-loving West-hating imbeciles. Not all of us dig up graves and rally for invading Ukraine. The global hate for our leader and our country is completely justified at the moment, but I don't understand the need to lower yourself to disrespecting the nation. I finished uni in the States and currently live in Spain, and sadly everything about Russia in the media is shown in a completely negative, borderline-propaganda way. Our country does the same, even worse, but there is an enormous number of people who are not brainwashed and desperately want change. Not enormous enough to be noticed, unfortunately. My point being, we live under a dictatorship, and while other countries and people in the same situations are being sympathized with, we are being ridiculed for what our dictator is doing. Show how more evolved and progressive you are, because judging from this comment section, it seems like a lot of you aren't far off from the "vatniks" you hate so much.
@BorysPomianek
@BorysPomianek 9 жыл бұрын
Kostya8 "disrespecting the nation" - so are you talking about the people or the nation after all? In one sentence you distance the Russian People from the Russian Nation and in the other you want respect for the Russian Nation on the ground of the virtues of the Russian People? The current issue with Russia that the rest of the world has is not about the Russian people in Russia, but Russian bombs possibly landing outside of Russia - that is where the negative sentiments come from. I would not be surprised to see Russian tanks out my window because after Ukraine falls then it's probably "whip it all out time" and most of the NATO command centres and training grounds are relatively close to where I live at the moment. I have no idea where the US military bases are located but if I see a mushroom cloud one morning I suppose it will mean pretty close after all. Wonder what will come first, traditional ordnance, chemical weapons, tactical nuclear strike? I don't mind Russian People at all dude, they are welcome to forage for food with me in the ruins of the post-apocalyptic reality any day once that day comes - if I find enough rusty cans once I finally manage to break open an old storage closet somewhere deep underground, I will be happy to share some with you too as long as you bring your own can opener.
@DrFunkenstein69
@DrFunkenstein69 9 жыл бұрын
Borys Pomianek by "nation" I meant the people, nothing more, sorry for the confusion. And I think you're exaggerating a bit, nuclear prevention still exists and as Sting once said, "the Russians love their children too". Again, I am not defending our policy one bit, in fact, it was one of the main reasons that prompted me to leave the country. All I am saying, in the context of this comment section, is that the fact that the majority of our people are brainwashed degenerates (such is the case for a lot of places, to be fair) led by a tyrant shouldn't make the international community think that we are all like that. We are a struggling country, riddled with poverty, corruption and totalitarianism. Go to Moscow or St. Petersburg and talk with educated people, and you will find that the majority agrees with this sentiment.
@BorysPomianek
@BorysPomianek 9 жыл бұрын
Kostya8 I think people, as in everyone on their own making up to a group rather than team effort - people, including Russian people have to start the healing by doing everything they can to remove nationalism from their daily lives. Not a meeting where this is decided but individual action. That is, for instance we should not talk about how great Russia is because of Russian writers for instance, we should talk how great those writers where and that's it - maybe about their cultural circles but not extend those laurels on the whole "Nation". Destroy the idea of Nation and you will render a lot of the manipulation that fuels Russian imperialism benign - Imperialism that destroyed people both inside and outside - there was never any benefit to most people over there at least to my limited historical understanding. Put constant pressure on the idea of a state being a bad thing, do not trust the state, do not support the state, do not teach your kids to trust the state - if the state asks for support to help people, try to avoid giving that support and directly give that help to the people you deem requiring it, even if it costs you extra effort to do it that way. If you do that then it will be easier to distance atrocities committed by a small group of people from everyone contained within their area of influence that is state. It will also make it readily possible for everyone including uneducated people to team up across borders without having to break down the baggage of nationality. We can't and I mean everyone around the world, eat the cookie and have the cookie of nationalism. This goes for US and UK as well and many other countries with imperialistic tendencies. If a Russian or an American beats their chest about something that someone else in their country achieved as if they where on the same team then once the team fucks up they will get the booing too. If I say "Fuck Russia" does that mean I say that to you specifically? In my opinion no but many Russians would disagree because they cannot distance themselves from the nation - they are clinging to it for identity. I don't like statism, I don't like nationalism. I say fuck Russia and Fuck Poland (where I am right now) and fuck UK (where I was for number of years). I was born in Poland, I do not feel like I am part of a whole here - someone owns this place but not me. We have to say no to what they give us if we are to then say no when they tell us to shoot and kill! So dude, I don't know what I can tell you - you can't alone help everyone, just distance yourself from where you where born and build your identity from something else. If you have workable ideas, spread them, if you can do other things also do that. As far as hate towards people specifically - I don't really see that day to day, people just want to say fuck off to Russians, Americans, British... it's just how it goes. I have never seen people truly unable to find compassion because of nationality - people shout things because they are frustrated and scared but if you knock on their door they will likely let you in. But yeah I am worried - many cirles of cultural and intellectual life have deteriorated in recent years in my personal experience and in my opinion that is a sign that the hammer is coming down - arts funding is non existence, academical structures are almost falling apart etc. etc. The Berlin wall was coming down not that long ago and now we are building walls around us worried for the future. I don't know what any of this would have to do with the video but it's a very worrying point in time and we might meet each other foraging for cans yet, none of us interested in affairs of state but both affected - whatever obscenities people shout in internet comments long forgotten by then.
@DrFunkenstein69
@DrFunkenstein69 9 жыл бұрын
Borys Pomianek great post, and I agree with everything except for one thing: when people say "fuck Russians", I take it personally, not because I am a nationalist - far from it - but because I can't stand hate, as banal as that sounds. I would take it personally if someone said "fuck the Polish", or "fuck the British", or.. you get the idea. I cannot stand generalizations, I think that when you start putting labels on people that's when the society goes to shit, if it can go any further that is. I also think that the biggest threat in the world right now is ISIL, and that the international community should forget about sanctions, embargos and everything else to unite against that threat, but that will never happen realistically. P.S. As much as I want to distance myself from where I was born, I can't do it for multiple reasons: family, friends, business, etc. But I'm way past the youth-fueled naivety that made me think I can change anything. Nemtsov's dacha was right next to mine, and in the summers we would have shashliki sometimes, very rarely, but still. He genuinely thought he could make a difference. And look where he ended up.
@DrFunkenstein69
@DrFunkenstein69 9 жыл бұрын
***** I know, and? Nothing you've said is a secret to a person with an internet connection/
@paularndt6111
@paularndt6111 3 жыл бұрын
Subtitles through out would be good. Vice....really like your stuff though.
@EWDAVID94
@EWDAVID94 9 жыл бұрын
This is done all over the world for different conflicts yet somehow the Russians are bad? Ooookay
@kronos501
@kronos501 9 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Thanks for the reporting.
@FLIXXE
@FLIXXE 9 жыл бұрын
Cool a german Video :D !
@boglin
@boglin 9 жыл бұрын
This reporter is cool as hell
@pappabear4977
@pappabear4977 8 жыл бұрын
They should be in jail. Leave the dead in peace.
@screamingfang
@screamingfang 8 жыл бұрын
+Iron Cross Indeed. The sell the bones, weapons, pretty much anything that they find. Leave the dead at peace. Thats why alot of these graves are disturbed, and missing parts of the body. These kinds of people give metal detectors a bad name. I don't appreciate what these grave robbers are doing, its just not right. All they really want to do is take things from dead people who risked their lives defending their country. Its like robbing the grave of General Erwin Rommel.
@lilqueso8190
@lilqueso8190 6 жыл бұрын
Someone grandad got there ass in Kursk
@tatuman9801
@tatuman9801 3 жыл бұрын
7:30 not Maxim it’s from dp28
@cucuipaul8512
@cucuipaul8512 8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see these kids keeping alive the old, russian, war tradition of steeling shit from the dead
@nop384
@nop384 6 жыл бұрын
a fellow fallout fan.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 6 жыл бұрын
Removing gear from the dead, friend and foe alike is common... Across the ages and nations.
@elche2522
@elche2522 6 жыл бұрын
Fall on this .I.
@jayluis189
@jayluis189 6 жыл бұрын
More like Fallout Boy
@Shapeguydude
@Shapeguydude 4 жыл бұрын
"World War 2 thousands of soldiers were killed on the border of Germany and Russia" Bit of an understatement there bud
@Caninco1
@Caninco1 9 жыл бұрын
That is how the Jews got rich.
@icarus_falling
@icarus_falling 4 жыл бұрын
Thousands died? More like millions. Many millions
@govno7
@govno7 9 жыл бұрын
lol nice propoganda VICE unsub.
@AkeN996
@AkeN996 9 жыл бұрын
It works like this: if there's something that doesen't perfectly match the nowadays russian ideology, than most of the russians call it "propaganda" and some happily add some "nazi", "jewish", "blyat" etc...
@barrenhorizons
@barrenhorizons 9 жыл бұрын
They are just sour that war movies are still on tv somewhere.
@naturetonyx
@naturetonyx 9 жыл бұрын
Нормальная документалка, само-собой с кучей стереотипов (музыки и бухла), но и не без приятных элементов гостеприимства. А вообще как вы представляете захоронить несколько миллионов человек, если только в битве за Москву погибло более миллиона человек? С трудом верится, что копатели делают это за спасибо в свободное время. Вот смотрю на череп бойца, и благодарен ему всей своей жизнью. Не полег бы он там в лесу, все бы обернулось совсем по-другому.
@JuliaLi28
@JuliaLi28 3 жыл бұрын
A very strange name for the video. Because the people shown here are in most cases volunteers of "military seekers" (an official military unit) and have permission to search for and exhume the dead who are missing. These people restore the identity of the deceased and return to their relatives. It has to be done! Soldiers must return home even after death!
@ErnestJay88
@ErnestJay88 9 жыл бұрын
"taking stuff from the dead is just graverobbing and nothing more'' that's explain the entire documentary, no doubt about it.
@666afflicted
@666afflicted 9 жыл бұрын
''I'd rather spend my time with my friends outside than surfing the internet'' shots fired.
@Mrmys1900
@Mrmys1900 9 жыл бұрын
14:53 was gas used on the eastern front?
@TheMoonIsAConspiracyTheory
@TheMoonIsAConspiracyTheory 6 жыл бұрын
No, but originally soldiers were issued with gas masks as gas was used on the eastern front during the first world war
@samueldergru
@samueldergru 4 жыл бұрын
13:37 “Fahrzeuge und Geräte” means vehicles and equipment, and not cars and guns!! Grüße aus Österreich!
@spaceslav
@spaceslav 9 жыл бұрын
Side note, 1,000,000 Roubles is approx £11,000 or $17,000
@DubstepClassicsHD
@DubstepClassicsHD 9 жыл бұрын
is there a chance they will walk into an abandoned minefield or set of an unexploded bomb they found
@johnlamb95
@johnlamb95 5 жыл бұрын
Good music!
@thinkingofHim.
@thinkingofHim. 9 жыл бұрын
14:48 "Certainly they are still charged with explosives." Casually puts down grenade. WHAT LOL
@xbeastmode99x
@xbeastmode99x 9 жыл бұрын
Isaiah Marshall Yes, but realize they have been buried in wet, muddy ground for over 70 years. Whatever explosives still in there are most likely inert by now.
@G36Ghost
@G36Ghost 9 жыл бұрын
9:20 Holly crap, stalkers exist !!!
@scordova98
@scordova98 9 жыл бұрын
The fire scene was like straight from stalker
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