Meet the Carbide3D 65mm VFD Spindle Kit

[@protect.your.digits.creations]

Carbide 3 D has the most informative videos for the CNC products. The Shapoeko 5 Pro is the top-of-the-line CNC on the market. I have moved away from Stepcraft CNC because what they show you is not the machine cost you see; you must add features which adds to the price. The Shapoeko is all included except for choice of the spindle of which you have 2 choices depending on your present budget.

[@sebastienbily2331]

I've changed my router to an aliexpress VFD and 1.5kw spindle way back and could not think on going back. Super nice to have that option from the get go now.

[@evolutionlures]

How do you measure the distance if this is your first router?

[@lyric.kayden]

Just ordered the VFD Spindle Kit and HDZ for my Shapeoko Pro XXL. Suuuuuper excited 😊

[@carbide3d]

It’s a game changer. We love our XXL 4 Pro machine with the VFD. You’re going to love it.

[@LaserGarage]

Just picked this up, can't wait for it to arrive

[@carbide3d]

Going to be the best move you’ve made all year.

[@slowsloth2519]

What kind of bearings do these have? Is there a runout spec?

[@GraphixJunkie]

Awesome upgrade!

[@52thephotoshop]

Really ER-11 on a $750 spindle? And you don't seem to provide any spec sheet covering run out or torque curves.

[@crazywolfman]

can the spindle go in reverse?

[@randyday3278]

When will the liquid cooled kit be available?

[@SkySim]

I recently received my Carbide 3D Spindle Kit, unfortunately I will only receive my Shapeoko 5 Pro in the middle of May 2023. Is there a way to test the VFD and Spindle without the CNC machine to make sure it works?

[@carbide3d]

We guarantee it will work. You’re going to love it with the 5 Pro

[@SkySim]

@@carbide3d I'm sure I will love it, how do I test it with out the CNC? You're skirting the question.

[@erikhole4766]

Hopefully a 230v becomes available. Would definetly buy one!

[@lylet100]

I see there is a big response for your comment but while there at that “ necessary “ upgrade of adding 230v let’s make the spindle able to accept a 1/2” shank . Now that definitely would be worth waiting for.

[@erikhole4766]

I've had a Shapeoko since 2020. Been a valuable asset in our business so far.

[@iancockrell5920]

220V exists now!

[@erikhole4766]

@@iancockrell5920 Thanks for the update! I've ended up buying a Tormach 1100MX, so the Shapeoko is currently just gathering dust in my shop. But at some point I hope to pick it back up and get it up and running with a VFD spindle!

[@zakariakhamees]

Is the spindle a permanent magnet motor or an induction motor?

[@scottcolby9405]

I understand I can’t change rpm on the fly once the program has started. I sometimes need to change rpm due to differences in a length of wood. Am I wrong??

[@PiercesPerfectPieces]

Why do y’all say these don’t work well on GFCI outlets?? Been wanting to upgrade to a spindle for a while now, but all my garage has is GFCI Outlets. Has anyone had any luck plugging into GFCI & them working fine or not?? 🤔 🤷‍♂️

[@carbide3d]

It works for some people and not others, so we'd say you cannot count on a VFD spindle (from anyone) working on a GFI outlet.

[@PiercesPerfectPieces]

@ So basically for $750 (which I’m willing spend, but not at the cost of having to pull permits, hire an electrician & re-wire/wire in a dedicated circuit) it would be a gamble & it’s probably best to just keep using my router. 😔🙉 Though I know it’s not just y’all’s brand, (It would be everyone else’s spindles sold everywhere else by everyone else as well too) but I actually appreciate y’all saying this (SPEAKING TRUTH) & having it listed in the description on your shops website so I’m aware before I purchase. Truly this means more (to me personally) than y’all even know. I appreciate the info! Take Care Carbide3D ✌️

[@lylet100]

Is there any plans for a 220v- I/2” spindle unit ? Many thanks for your information.

[@SkySim]

Does anyone know how to manually run the Carbide 3D VFD and spindle, I can't seem to get an answer from Carbide3D.

[@alassafcam]

This is normal VFD and yes you can adjust manually

[@SkySim]

Carbide 3D password locks the VFD.@@alassafcam

[@TheDustyFish]

Cables coming out of two different sides? Really? Please don’t tell me it also suffers from the cable being just barely long enough, like the so3 cables?

[@lwg66]

Just because nobody asked yet will it go in reverse?

[@MicroFourThirdsCorner]

Thanks for the video. I know what the spec sheet says (110v 12A) but what is the typical power usage at the wall for the VFD when running at (say) 8,000 to 14,000 rpm?

[@ClintonCarawayPwncnc]

I have a couple of questions. Are the cable shielded and grounded? Is the actual spindle grounded? Is the #4 pin grounded the body? This can be checked with the touching the Bitzero to the spindle body. Is there a way to install a breaking resistor, adjust the torture boost or configure the T1 relay on the VFD?

[@philippeg3]

So cool!

[@MosquitoMade]

I'm guessing the answer is no, but any idea if this will function on GFCI protected circuits? It seems a VFD that does is not always easy to find... My shop electrical was completed about 5 years ago, and by code has to have GFCI protected 120v circuits. Last VFD I tried instantly tripped the GFCI upon trying to start it

[@benjaminbrewer2154]

Would a 1-1 transformer make it less likely to trip?

[@MosquitoMade]

@@benjaminbrewer2154 possibly, from my research and understanding, it seemed like most VFD's made quite a bit of noise on start up, which many/most GFCI's would interpret as a ground fault and trip. In my other case, I ended up just switching to 240v instead, which isn't GFCI protected (and powering a 1.5HP motor for my lathe, so likely a better choice anyway)

[@carbide3d]

We just plugged a spindle into a bathroom outlet and it ran through a break in cycle just fine. (Held at various RPMs for several minutes) Will confirm tomorrow with a tester if the GFCI was working properly but initial impressions are yes it should work. We do have filtering on the 110V line built into the unit, same as our BitRunner Deluxe. If electrical interference is what is most often the point of failure, that should cover a lot of it.

[@MosquitoMade]

@@carbide3d Thank you! I look forward to finding out the tester results, but that sounds promising!

[@bluepeakwoodworks]

I've been using my Carbide3d spindle kit for a year on a GFCI circuit with no issue. My outlet brand is Leviton.

[@Zarlax]

As much as I want one, I really just need to get to the SO4 before I throw more money at my SO3. While I wait, where do I need to send the fruit basket to get an OG Winston bake off video comparing the Carbide3d spindle to the Carbide3d palm router?

[@Klugo628]

Cuando quitaran la correa a esta versión (Shapeoko Pro)??

[@jackedupmedic]

Would an install for a 3XXL with Z plus just have the cable laid out like the router? Asking since it doesn’t have the additional drag chain. Also asking cause I ordered one already….🤣.

[@WinstonMakes]

That's most likely the case. You could run it through the drag chain, but I would personally probably zip-tie it to the outside. Partly because it's easier, partly to reduce any unlikely (but not impossible) effects of EMI on the other stuff like homing switch.

[@jackedupmedic]

Sounds good, thanks Winston…look forward to trying it out…..cheers!

[@waynefraser867]

You guys should offer this as a upgrade for recent buyers. I just bought pro 2 months ago..

[@waynefraser867]

@@shawnliu2590 it works

[@whedge78]

I agree!

[@AllanScheSar]

Please now an 230 Volt version from it.

[@GTguitarworks]

Can this be installed on the Shapeoko 3 xxl?

[@carbide3d]

If you have Shapeoko 3 with a V2.3 board and below (Shapeoko 3 machines purchased before Black Friday 2019), you will need to add the Carbide Motion PCB with an enclosure, which includes a new circuit board with the BitRunner connector installed.

[@carbide3d]

The product page is here: shop.carbide3d.com/collections/accessories/products/vfd-spindle-kit

[@RogerRunion-w8y]

Spindle flashing PoFF wont start even in manual mode MDI restarted redownloaded every thing

[@carbide3d]

Reach out to [e-mail] Our staff will get you back up and running.

[@benjaminbrewer2154]

How does it compare to the $200-$300 water-cooled spindle off eBay?

[@carbide3d]

Air cooled will be slightly louder, but not by much. Hard to speculate beyond that as quality can be hit or miss. We've tested spindles from a bunch of vendors and what we are selling is one we have had the best experience with and trust.

[@cadewhite8692]

can you command on and off and rpm with gcode or have to manually start, stop, select rpm with the vfd

[@caseyeberle7998]

Didn't watch the whole video huh?

[@carbide3d]

The VFD is controlled automatically and digitally through Gcode.

[@cadewhite8692]

@@caseyeberle7998 i must have missed it

[@frankwhite675]

The HDM comes with this preinstalled, no?

[@carbide3d]

Yes, the HDM comes with a VFD spindle.

[@frankwhite675]

@@carbide3d 🍻

[@JANDLWOODWORKING]

will this work with the stock Shapeoko3 XXl

[@carbide3d]

If you have a newer control board with a 6-pin connector (2.4d or later) and a Z-plus or HDZ Z-axis, then yes. The spindle is a little too heavy for the older belt driven Z-axis. -W

[@JANDLWOODWORKING]

@@carbide3d sigh I'm out then

[@Tx2Aggie]

@@carbide3d Are there installation instructions for SO3? I have a 2.4e board and don't have that connector on the side of my box. Guessing it's inside?

[@joshuarenfro125]

@@JANDLWOODWORKING You could purchase the Z-plus to hold the weight.

[@miraclecncshop4133]

Is it work in canada

[@carbide3d]

Yes

[@phaseonemedical5314]

A little disappointing that they have none in stock after 10 days post launch!

[@ammerudgrenda]

Still nothing available

[@Batendor]

It’s a shame that it only runs on 110v outlets 😞

[@shirothehero0609]

That's what step up/step down converters are for. 😉

[@Batendor]

@@shirothehero0609 True. But what about Hz and the amount of wattage needed to ensure the spindle works as intended? The idea of my comment is that Carbide made it clear on several occasions that they’re not interested in international markets. Smart ass 😉😉😉

[@SlowedSonics]

@@Batendor he was just trying to help you dork.

[@alexon2010]

Vocês poderia criar o programa de vocês open source, seria bem interessante

[@JonValtandtheEvilRobots]

Man I don’t know. I don’t trust “soft” switches. If it wouldn’t mess things up, I think I’d have a physical kill switch before I EVER touch a spindle that’s just waiting to burst into action. 😳😬😬

[@odbo_One]

@2:44 no need to unscrew any of the tail linkages, just pop the harness off the tail linkages (one one with screws), it will pop back on easy. I've done this faster and easier than this video.

[@kiltedcraftworks4609]

Seriously!? I just got my pro with the trim router like 3 weeks ago. I guess I'll have something to ask for at christmas later this year.

[@giantpune]

I was just thinking the same. I've got the pro with their router and bitrunner recently.

[@kiltedcraftworks4609]

@@giantpune at 750, it isn't an obvious buy, but there is always a fomo. This thing feels like a beast in wood. I'll have to see how well it does in aluminum before deciding if the big spindle is really a worth while investment for me.

[@giantpune]

@@kiltedcraftworks4609 For the price, I think I'd buy the saunders machine aluminum fixture bed before this spindle. I think when moving to aluminum, I'd get more bang for the buck with better work holding than the jump from the router to a 110v spindle.

[@kiltedcraftworks4609]

@@giantpune wow, I knew they made fixture parts, but didn't realize they were reasonably priced and came with shapeoko options. I'll have to dig in deeper to what they have available. Thanks for the tip!

[@dcoff2443]

Before I’m even two minutes in #sold😳

[@jsincoherency]

Everyone shows how you insert the collet into the nut, noone shows how you get it back out!

[@Robinlarsson83]

Just push it from the front with your thumb, the collet doesn't require much force at all to pop back out. I don't this exact spindle, but on my ER20 its very easy to get them back out :)

[@jsincoherency]

@@Robinlarsson83 Absolutely does not work on my ER11 collets. I welded a bit of peg to an old pair of pliers to help me apply more force to push them out and it's still a ballache.

[@carbide3d]

You need to push from the front, but also rock the collet back and forth from the back like a thumb stick on a game controller to pop it out of the groove that it's seated in.

[@atmm89]

pathetic only for 120v, how about for the 240 v world, we do exist, please