Meet The Lawyer Defending Neo-Nazi Trolls (HBO)

VICE talks to Marc Randazza, a lawyer defending a neo-Nazi website publisher sued for starting an anti-Semitic trolling campaign. The case could draw a new line between free speech and illegal harassment.
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[@Spergen]

Meet the man who is actually doing his job

[@dieyoung]

Vice is so painfully predictable

[@noobslayer1196]

Funny. Their content centers around dipshits like you and Nick Fuentes

[@AlexSmith-gr4hp]

"Dead hookers are our spirit animal". The face when that was said. Introduction to trolling.

[@edwardcarrington3531]

She "literally" wrote the book. Fire this woman.

[@tzuccolo2001]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@NJD265]

This reporter can't decide whether To Sleep or To Talk . So she does both

[@Duke_of_Spook]

She also banged Richard Spencer

[@EUROPATHELASTBATTLE861]

6 years on your choice is either be like her or be a nazi.

[@atlaz9673]

I am having a peanut butter and jelly for dinner.

[@nice1365]

I had a chicken korma

[@hodgescouldntdodgeit4374]

I had ice cream

[@MichaelM28]

*jam

[@brodystokes1633]

How was it?

[@josephkelly4893]

Orange Marmalade for me

[@gentilegrief]

>law professor @4:25 thinks equal protection somehow doesn't exist Pathetic.

[@anfrale4657]

a dumbass professor. wow.

[@chrisclary5491]

Do you remember this thing called slavery? And then the civil rights movement? What about BLM?

[@TTGLobbiexz]

HAHAHA HOLY SHIT MARC!! He was my dad's best friend, he bought the house across from us in cash, he represented multiple pornstars, he told me about a pony buttplug he was trying to get royalties for, he's an awesome dude!! Funny to see him on here, his wife is an amazing character too. You should see him and his kids, man they are a funny ass bunch, good times!!

[@nutrient.-.7275]

Sounds like a creep

[@Bouldah]

Nice lie

[@christopherratcliffe4715]

The fact that Vice hires "journalists" with fetal alcohol syndrome tells you everything you need to know about their reporting

[@seangrotta6172]

Lmfao!!! I almost pissed my pants at that comment!!! Still laughing!

[@davidadu8559]

Fetal alcohol syndrome is a physical syndrome it doesn’t affect a persons ability to think, it just makes you look different, stop attacking people based on their looks

[@iiomqxxxxxxx_theydied_xxxx197]

@@davidadu8559 fr

[@user-hk6eh2gb3z]

U are dumber than most people with fetal alcohol syndrome

[@daryldixon5587]

@@davidadu8559 that must be the fetal alcohol syndrome talking for you. Donkey

[@peterplowart8754]

Sounds to me like Spencers mother can sue gersh for the same reason.

[@shaft3285]

This crazy blonde chick found my grandmothers' spectacles.

[@yemo34]

I like the balding lawyers ending statements. It seems honest. I compare that to the other harpy lawyer, and her total rejection of basic civil liberties. She terrifys me.

[@TaskForceSixTwoSix]

That poor, innocent Jewish woman wasn't just trying to convince Richard Spencer's mother to denounce her son, she was also trying to force her to sell her property and then donate that money to her organization. That you didn't report that reveals your bias.

[@cannibrel]

source??

[@delusionnnnn]

They did report the entire context of the story in the earlier coverage of her side of the issue. This is a different aspect of that same story. That you weren't aware of this and assume otherwise reveals your bias.

[@seblasian]

+delusionnnnn I'm pretty sure the former segment mentioned exactly nothing about her extortion attempts.

[@Extys]

How can you say something antisemitic with the identitarian movement symbol? They are against antisemitism.

[@delusionnnnn]

They reported that the woman was interested in selling her property, and then changed her mind and went full-alt-right and claimed that there was an "extortion" attempt. Everyone's claims have been presented.

[@laughingman7882]

The constitution was VERY skillfully written to include everyone. It even covers protections for non-citizens to have protections should they be arrested here. Attacking your own freedoms is not how you beat a Nazi.

[@Mr.Amazing_-xg6xn]

No one's freedom is being attacked.

[@ChrisM-bn5vr]

Yeah that Lawyer is silly. Even if the "we the people" part wasn't supposed to mean minorities or women when they wrote it, there's nothing in the constitution that says it doesn't.

[@FentyCola559]

@@ChrisM-bn5vr Nah that Lawyer is based

[@TheInternationalJew]

​@@Mr.Amazing_-xg6xnI guess that's why youtube has an AI to literally shadow ban you from commenting if you say something mean.

[@j_jones_]

That lawyer seemed like a pretty cool guy

[@ZackEdwards1234]

Mr Rendazza is exactly right. Ms. Gersch inserted herself into this arena. I mean who the hell writes a letter to someone's mother and demands that they condemn their own son...

[@BadgerCheese94]

So that makes it okay to use hateful speech on her?

[@brotbrotsen1100]

​@@BadgerCheese94 yes

[@BadgerCheese94]

@@brotbrotsen1100 Why? Thats considered harrassment

[@brotbrotsen1100]

@@BadgerCheese94 harassment is bothering the dudes mother who has nothing to do with the situation. It's not like she was in any way civil even ignoring harassing his mother, so she either can handle that people won't be exactly nice to her either or she picks easier battles.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

@Giacomo von Buckerson Don't care, they are the enemy. So if they have to suffer, good.

[@Ochoaj300]

No matter whose mouth it comes out of, we must protect free speech at all costs. Even if it hurts someone's feelings or disagrees with 99.99% of everyone else, that doesn't mean someone should not be able to speak freely.

[@FUBBA]

Nooooooooooooooo!!! You're ruining *THE MESSAGE* !!!!!

[@peekaboo8967]

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

[@chummymcgee2823]

@@peekaboo8967 Free speech means FREE SPEECH

[@peekaboo8967]

@@chummymcgee2823 free speech doesn't mean you can say racial slurs man

[@chummymcgee2823]

@@peekaboo8967 of course it does

[@martinsvillechivo7892]

That lady who said the U.S. Constitution wasn't intended for all Americans is beyond ignorant. There have been so many various types of men and women who took, and still take a stand for the Constitution. Don't believe me? Ask our veterans, law enforcement, and various constitutional organizations.

[@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk]

American law enforcement do not uphold the constitution. They do the opposite

[@KickYouInTheThroat]

"given my practice, dead hookers are sort of our spirit animal." Followed by the look on her face. Fuckin priceless.

[@jamesmorrison7989]

That female law professor is a joke. The actual lawyer is doing his job without bringing his emotions into it

[@dmcm2567]

Dear vice, as someone who is for free speech you should know that all of It's ok or none of it's ok.

[@astro.avesta]

That’s not how free speech works though…

[@roadrunner5549]

@@astro.avesta that is exactly how it works

[@astro.avesta]

@@roadrunner5549 please read US Constitution Amendment 1. 1791 or "Time, Place, and Manner Restrictions". West's Encyclopedia of American Law. I can not link them here.

[@demnuts2556]

@@roadrunner5549 you really do have no idea how freedom of speech works whatsoever...

[@jo18533]

@@demnuts2556 Tell us.

[@furupoweru1899]

the girl at 4:18 looks like toxic avenger

[@Gigachad-bv8zr]

Hillary sticker on laptop says enough

[@tosoledo]

I don't support harassment, threat or anti-Semitism but strangely, online harassment is a problem only when it is done by a specific group of people against an other specific group of people. It is also called double standard and totalitarianism.

[@trsgringo]

The truth is antisemitic.

[@phataldestroyer]

Nazis brigade people in swathes. If thousands of individuals collected and spammed 4 people, then yes. That harassment is an issue. Nazis use the internet to enforce their ideology and enact their will, without reprocussions. Pushing extremist to commit, feeding them misinformation. ... maybe we should start throwing nazis in the ocean.. we'd probably have less mass shootings and acts of terrorism in america. I'm sympathetic towards Humans, not some hollow shell of a garbage nazi.

[@FentyCola559]

You know how to deal with online harassment? Log off and turn off your computer etc for the night

[@foxdiemmxx]

“Even a werewolf is entitled to legal council” -Dr. Gonzo

[@Korkinmaenkikkeli]

Damn why is that reporter with the Big glasses so sad looking

[@Korkinmaenkikkeli]

Also looks kinda liké à fish

[@hiqwerty7747]

@@Korkinmaenkikkeli Why are you being so Judgemental and rude?

[@Korkinmaenkikkeli]

@@hiqwerty7747 why are you gay?

[@happywombat]

The lawyer comes off as a pretty chill dude, I like him. Besides he's just doing his job.

[@TheAndrew1987]

i really like this lawyer dude he seems like a chill guy

[@kiethstone9400]

Holy shit the space between the journalists eyes is a four dollar cab ride, the dahmer glasses don’t cover that up

[@austinfehrer6574]

So if Franks wins, urging the public to contact their local/state representative(s) to voice disapproval with a policy position or piece of legislation could be considered harrasment? Quite a slippery slope...

[@jakemartin4971]

Same reason you can't let these online bullying laws happen. Snot nosed kids pick on others until they want to harm themselves. But its hard to legislate that away... Impossible maybe

[@BabylonianHebrew]

Mary Anne Frank *literally anne frank*

[@user-kc7se9te7g]

had me in the first half about doxxing her and telling people to stop by her house being a call for action, lost me with whatever fucking point you were trying to make about not everyone deserving rights

[@soarinskies1105]

That lawyer had me rolling when he said “dead hookers are our spirit animals”

[@TheRealHusk]

Wow what a shock a woman wrote the book on virtual harassment What do they even know about bullying someone online lmao, they get bullied.

[@moceri55]

Marc Randazza grew in the house behind mine. If there were two things we knew Marc was gonna grow up to be, they would have been a used car salesman or a lawyer.

[@Okshake]

Girl needs to get glasses that fit and the dude needs to just hurry up and go bald already.

[@superstar5123]

sam hyde is just using his freedom of speech

[@martinvyslouzil2163]

Yeah and he is a nazi

[@hannahrhcp]

5:30 That smile at the end, he knows.

[@TrophyGuide101]

If you do not support free speech you unironically want to give other people the power to dictate what YOU can and cannot say. Imagine wanting a bunch of bureaucrats to have the power to control your speech...

[@BLUEGENE13]

nowhere has pure freedom of speech not america not anywhere (except like Antarctica or something i guess)

[@TrophyGuide101]

@@BLUEGENE13 I agree, that doesn't contradict anything I said, it just shows people are willing to give up their freedoms in exchange for the promise of safety.

[@BLUEGENE13]

@@TrophyGuide101 You implied by saying "imagine wanting a bunch of bureaucrats to have the power to control your speech" that we don't already have that and most people in reality want that. Do you want people to sell and trade CP without restriction, do you want people to be able to yell bomb on a plane as much as they want? (and all the other edge cases of freedom of speech) So it DOES contradict what you implied. So you can quit the lawyering by saying "it doesn't contradict anything I said"

[@TrophyGuide101]

@@BLUEGENE13 I didn't imply that, you're making an assumption. Many of these restrictions on free speech were already in place before many of us were born. People calling for further restrictions on what already exists are the ones who want other people controlling their speech, that is self-evident.

[@BLUEGENE13]

@@TrophyGuide101 "I didn't imply that, you're making an assumption." i didn't even say that

[@PremiumWater]

Meet the lawyer who has principles...what is this story?????

[@vishmonster]

propaganda prɒpəˈɡandə/ noun noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view. "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda" synonyms: information, promotion, advertising, advertisement, publicity, advocacy;

[@weresaite]

"Troll level 100" I got ebola from that statement

[@soupthesart]

Vice being liable be like

[@joebazooks]

that lawyer is hiularious

[@hermes_logios]

The SPLC (Gersh's lawyers) publishes a list of people whose politics they dislike, and encourages its followers to scorn them. That's exactly what they're accusing Anglin of doing. The SPLC practically invented troll-storming. It's their entire business model.

[@Tazman1234]

But do you agree with it? is the question...

[@tearaproctor9684]

@@Tazman1234 sounds to me like she doesn't mind it at all.

[@Tazman1234]

@@tearaproctor9684 your right, because she didn't respond to my comment. That's what cowards do. In the 53 years I've been on this planet. Every racist I've encountered, turn out to be cowards...

[@ryancomer6290]

@@Tazman1234 Imagine commenting 2 years after someone and wondering why they didnt respond 😂

[@connorgillispie7128]

@@ryancomer6290 The coward didn't respond to you. He's scared of you.

[@yepanon4670]

Political opinions thrown to the side.... thats a badass lawyer who understands the justice system and his role in it. It is set to give the best defense despite personal opinions because the prosecution is doing the same... the judgement is left to the judge or jury.

[@DavidNaghdi]

whats up with her glasses?

[@UGOTNUKED]

3:50 So, these people can't just "turn off their computer" because they are addicted to social media. Seems to me this addiction is a more serious problem than online "harassment".

[@cheeseontoast9418]

i think they responded really badly to that question. imo its more a case of "i shouldnt have to turn my computer off because of people being dicks" in the same way that if everyone in the street was screaming abuse at me, i shouldnt just have to stop going outside to avoid them. i should be able to live my life normally. isnt that an ideal of conservatism? being able to keep to yourself and not be incroached on by the will of others.

[@LE2Goldenhalk]

@@cheeseontoast9418 I think you nailed it. I don't think they are talking about addictiveness, more talking about the fact that someone shouldn't HAVE to turn off their computer to put an end to the abuse, they should be able to go on their computer and live a normal life.

[@Mr.Amazing_-xg6xn]

Shut up

[@fingibb4723]

@@cheeseontoast9418 exactly, really well said there mate. People who are exposed to online harassment surprising aren’t being melodramatic. They have the right to use those services and shouldn’t have the right to ruin anyone else’s experience on said services.

[@McNuuuuggggiiiieeeessss]

@@LE2Goldenhalk you can go on your computer and live a normal life, just don’t go into spaces on the internet where there is a chance to be made fun of if it effects you that bad.

[@phallus36]

If saul goodman's unavailable, I'm getting this guy

[@JagjeetSingh-dw9qc]

Glad to see Sloth from the Goonies managed to get a steady reporting gig on Vice

[@sgraye8864]

Aw whats up Incel ?

[@enzo3440]

How about how she extorted Spencer's mom?

[@hiqwerty7747]

I can’t find any evidence of that.

[@robertclure]

MAN ....vice news is awful now

[@neoneherefrom5836]

Rob C They started out so cool too. Lmao

[@chuck9483]

Where is vice now?

[@mademansandro]

If the reporter wanted to age 30 years with her look, bravo good job zir

[@MintJuulPodGod]

SJW News

[@alexh5725]

the reporter looks so sad after having to report all of this.

[@cinderwood3218]

4:00 ah yes, it is the altright who ruins people's lives with online mobs. LOL

[@AlejoDecosta]

Racist.

[@1989TS..]

Because the online is real life!

[@tomorainns145]

There is no such thing as “alt right”. It’s literally a bs nickname for far-right viewers, who express their views on the internet

[@spacecatboy2962]

you should be able to say your views any way you want, but when you go fucking with someone at their house and spamming them, then its over the line

[@weareabove4233]

OY VEY!

[@swenpai]

haha racism 😐😐

[@TheBaioken]

is the reporter actively trying to look like a fish with her styling?

[@burnsbooks69]

Freedom of speech is made to defend those views we disagree with more, not just the accepted speech of the masses. This lady is evil

[@tangerine2317]

true, the most groundbreaking ideas were always bizarre at their time

[@bonzupippinpaddleopsicopol8094]

True but freedom of speech doesn’t equal freedom of criticism for that speech

[@lmao.3661]

@@bonzupippinpaddleopsicopol8094 going to court over words isn't criticism

[@lmao.3661]

@Giacomo von Buckerson idgaf lmao

[@burnsbooks69]

@Giacomo von Buckerson you’re Jewish

[@KarenTookTheKids364]

'Meet the lawyer practicing law'

[@an0therdimensi0n99]

That like to dislike video ratio speaks volumes and takes the temperature of the nation. It's time for a change.

[@agentagencja2799]

Now you cant even see it

[@jeviosoorishas181]

What's the working definition of harassment that the VICE people are referring to?

[@joebazooks]

that lady is bat-shit crazy. you can't ask a mother to formally condemn her child's actions and expect no response whatsoever from that...

[@holly03282008]

Wow.

[@chaoswolf1999]

Why does the reporter look like she wants to phone home?

[@ElkintheWoods23]

I'm sorry but the reporter's glasses look so bad

[@FoulMouthActual]

"aLt rIgHt tRoLls!"

[@tangerine2317]

they're not even alt right, they just know how to say things that piss people off

[@historicrecord]

He simply has no ethics and no morals. There are a few lawyers like that

[@hymniclimbic]

(*t my)

[@GhostLaughingMan]

RIP Vice you will be missed

[@pepepinochet616]

Isn't a vice reporter with hipsterglasses a racist stereotype?

[@marcusporciuscato6404]

[Hand rubbing intensifies]

[@aarOuOn]

Comment section can't handle unbiased reporting I guess

[@anguswallace5548]

lol you caught them, they're biased towards Nazi's. I do not blame them.

[@philchickenfingers1190]

Vice is such a joke. How do they even stay afloat

[@BonShula]

😁

[@GeneghisKhan]

Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen.

[@outlawJosieFox]

I am anti censorship but putting that woman's address online has nuthin to do with free speech It is an invasion to her family's right to a private life apart from anything.

[@420KUSHWIN]

Yeah they deserve protection... they are fucking trolling you...

[@FreshtexBlackman]

This lawyer must be fun to hang around, hear what he says on his phone call. Sad!

[@CarsCatAliens]

Scrolling past I thought dude was the lead singer for Wheatus

[@food4u4]

Thank you for feeding the trolls we are always hungry.

[@RawShogun]

Just turn off your computer...

[@avakintv7977]

He is doing Gods work.

[@Julie.Canada]

For those of you who missed it: The debate wasn't about whether or not the alt right's speech should be protected but whether or not this case was a free speech case at all. A.k.a. They are arguing about whether this case is defending free speech or incitement. Inciting a crime is a crime.

[@JustChadC]

I’d say it has the intent to incite a crime

[@connorgillispie7128]

@@JustChadC I'd say it doesn't.

[@andyd2078]

Does that poor chick have foetal alcohol syndrome or something?

[@mabusiambus8594]

Freedom of Speech??? Not in Jewmerica.

[@slavecrusher6245]

he should have said "i guess we will never know"

[@richrepublican3493]

I agree speech is protected but it doesn't hurt to test it once in awhile.

[@BonesTheCat]

Fascism fighting fascism.

[@tjwoosta]

Heres the thing.. just ignore the fucking trolls!

[@martinkirbits4752]

You dont know what "troll" means. STOP using it.

[@zancospancos]

Interesting... Interesting! I never would have heard of this without you Vice. Thanks for showing me his view point. :)

[@bouncinsoul2002]

I love the I want to look smarter than I am over sized glasses. Its not working.

[@sheet-son]

What kind of tools are running vice news??

[@tzuccolo2001]

If a person is communist and a racist are they right wing or left wing? What about a socialist government, say the USSR or china with a big military, is that a right wing government. People have no idea what right and left mean. These are terms that can only be applied to economic systems.

[@dbk7106]

Hardly the worst crime isit??

[@MadSaurax]

The reporter has a very Jewish face

[@swenpai]

can we just keep racism in 4chan I'm not defending her but you're straight up being racist

[@MadSaurax]

@@swenpai So, saying someone looks Jewish (Which she is, Semite) is racist? Says who? I am not going to deny reality cause you've decided to be offended by it

[@swenpai]

@@MadSaurax Does Drake or Scarlett Johansson have a very jewish face? Stereotypes are racist.

[@MadSaurax]

@@swenpai Yes, they do I don't particularly care if you feel stereotypes are racist or not, stereotypes are more often than not true, which is why the exist in the first place.

[@swenpai]

@@MadSaurax lmao

[@Sean-rj2ng]

Welcome to 2017, where trolls posting nazi anime girls is a crime to be sued for

[@mistermood4164]

fascists don't deserve meme, they deserve their head in the pavement.

[@100Mmore]

No, but doxing people and calling for violence and harassment against her is.

[@deprogramm]

Mister Mood trump won:) clearly we have something you don't :)

[@mistermood4164]

+vasting trump isn't a fascists dipshit. trump is a failure they can't get anything right.. :)

[@mistermood4164]

cries about ad-homium yet uses ad-homium..lol talk about the lack of self-awareness. and who's to say i'm a leftists? fascists promote violence, genocide and bigotry. some ideals are better than others and fascists are the scum of the earth.

[@Certainly_Nothing]

we do a little inconsistent trolling

[@pacifistidentitarian549]

The comment section gives me hope

[@toastedwheatbread9966]

we out here ; circlejerkin about muh freeze peach