Meet the Psycopath Who Invented Your Breakfast

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[@vaguemartin]

He wasn’t a psychopath. He was just a cereal killer.

[@jobes4525]

🤣

[@thebryanpereira]

YOOOO 🤣😂😂😂

[@lukegordon1493]

Yessss

[@muhammadwajdi2198]

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[@phylliscostello2969]

Brilliant comment🤣

[@furonguy42]

There's a delicious irony of Will choosing a rooster for the mascot after winning the company from John, considering John's staunchly sex-negative attitude, and perhaps the most common synonym for rooster.

[@kymo6343]

COCK-A-DOODLE-DOO! XD

[@skindianu]

@@kymo6343 ANY COCK'LL DOO?

[@MrBilld75]

Ahhh so that's how the sugar got added. Will had control, that makes sense. As I know that John was wholly against adding sugar to it and wanted it to be as bland and uninteresting as possible. But it sold horribly and only sold to the sanitarium patients and Adventists. Will thought adding sugar would make it sell better (likely because C.W. Post had done that after stealing Kellogg's recipes) and he was absolutely right. I wondered how he managed to put that past the older crazy brother, that's how, because he had control. John would have never agreed to adding sugar to it.

[@daleksix1396]

Chicken?

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

@@daleksix1396 Chicken is usually hen and rooster's are called cocks.

[@precious_muse]

I was hoping you would mention one of the most psychopathic part of Kellogg. He was a staunch supporter of eugenics which promoted the restriction of rights, sterilization, and eventually death of people with disabilities.

[@benthomason3307]

How Christlike of him...

[@precious_muse]

Believe it or not, some people in the eugenics movement saw it as a act of mercy. I don’t know if I can speak for Kellogg, but yeah, those who advocated for it could have read Scripture a little closer.

[@TheJakecakes]

Weren't they all! Bernard Shaw diet, injections, injunctions.

[@samuelwolch1302]

Don’t forget that this also included ethnic minorities and queer people. Because why not be the trio of ableist, homophobic and racist with the excuse of “scientific fact”

[@TokyoXtreme]

Based.

[@christopherhall5361]

Dr. Kellogg: "Don't masturbate, you'll go blind" Patient: "I'm over here"

[@williamf.9615]

Patient: "I thought it made you deaf". Dr. Kellog: "A quarter past two.".

[@MrNetWraith]

Adding to the psychopathic nature of John Kelloggs is the fact he must have known on some level that most of his beloved treatments were so much bunkum. He was very studious about avoiding taking in patients who were actually ill with genuine serious maladies, precisely to avoid potential failures. In fact, the famous African-American abolitionist Sojourner Truth spent several months in the Battle Creek Sanitarium due to the presence of sores on her legs. Kelloggs gave her the full regime of his usual treatments and then released her... whereupon she died in agony from blood poisoning, as her untreated sores had festered to the point they killed her.

[@rootsychick2151]

That saddens me.

[@ebonewashington]

Oh My that's horrible... Thanks for sharing

[@flowerpower9541]

Awful

[@lhdollbaby]

That's Obama care for ya🤨😵🤬🤕😂🤣😅🤣😂

[@brendac9386]

@@lhdollbaby More like colonial care; the same care given to Native Americans with the gifting of smallpox-infested blankets. 😉

[@buutich1]

I don't believe a lot of Kellogg's treatments are useful. However, some of the treatments made fun of in this video are known today to be used in modern medicine - colonic lavage, chewing food very well, light for depression to be a few. Yoghurt is often used to help with gut flora, especially after a large prescription of antibiotics.

[@earlysda]

There are many errors in this video.

[@The_Vible]

@@earlysda Tell me every error

[@ureasmith3049]

There's always a small batch of truth mixed in by cults and nutjob fanatics to help entice the naive.

[@earlysda]

@@The_Vible 1:23, Kellogg did not have a bike like that. 1:35 "The poor brother" is mistaken, as William Kellogg was not poor (or to be pitied). 1:41 "A highly eccentric individual" - false. 1:54 Kellogg certainly did not create the current "wellness" nonsense. 2:20 Kellogg did not invent cornflakes to prevent masturbation. . This last error is so over the top in being blatant error, that there is no more use in watching this garbage. Shame on Thoughty2 for making this error-filled video.

[@xtcmkr]

@@earlysda proof for the last point? it is a fact that he was seventh day adventist and strongly against sex for pleasure. It is a fact that he mutilated children. also, the seventh day adventists church promotes a plant-based diet, based on the visions of Ellen G. White which believed that some animal products cause sexual desire.

[@herbie_the_hillbillie_goat]

Why are we talking about John when Will is the clear inventor of corn flakes and the Kellogg behind the cereal.

[@TimmehJay]

Everyone always focuses on Kellogg while his contemporary, Purina, had the same ideas, same bizarre facilities, but with the added bonus of eugenics thrown in the mix.

[@sisyphos13]

"Meet the Psycopath Who Invented Your Breakfast" This is the best title I've ever seen. Well done mate, you just won youtube! :))

[@buutich1]

It's too bad he can't spell psychopath.

[@LucasImpulse]

@@buutich1 printer ink, sponsored by Apple.

[@dozhadeville444]

I swear it is 🤣

[@earlysda]

Sadly, this video has many historical errors.

[@samuelcosta8189]

indeed

[@jamescarr4504]

"He was celibate through four decades of marriage." I bet his wife wasn't.

[@ilewtf2234]

She surely wasnt, what a weak man to marry! 🤣🤣

[@ryanmc2864]

Banging comment

[@ryanmc2864]

@@ilewtf2234 that’s a toxic comment, I’m guessing you’re virgin

[@Bobba8590]

@@ryanmc2864 *you're

[@ilewtf2234]

@@ryanmc2864 Sorry to disappoint, im a bad father to two girls, and probably a few random kids i left around europe, middle-east and northern africa when i spread my seed. Im basically just a malicious sadist at my worst, but at my best im an ok man who is a loyal friend. Nobody is perfect.

[@zendan37]

I heard that one time cornflakes were tested and it was proved you would be better off eating the box they came in! Then vitamins were added and they became a viable breakfast food.

[@tilatsiddiqui3969]

They put iron filings in cornflakes

[@epicjourneyman2145]

I'm amazed that you have been covering so many of the very things that I have researched over the years - and doing a good job of it! I'm also pretty sure that most average people have no idea how much effort it takes to edit a video like this (it's like 5 to one per minute folks) which is why I gave up on doing it myself and just stuck to the audio since I work full time at a regular job that I actually like. Good job and keep it up!

[@MCsCreations]

The older brother was basically a cereal killer.

[@sharong8511]

Good one ☝️

[@feikotemme8736]

😂LOL👌👍

[@ximar0ckstrx]

🤣🤣🤣

[@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.]

Hah

[@user-hf1ys4rr5h]

You must have been in my head! That one-liner came to me yesterday regarding a murder in my country that occurred over cereal.

[@almighty3946]

I love the “subtle” jabs at Gwyneth Paltrow

[@jovjov223]

Is she really just into wellness and all that crap or does it go deeper?

[@meshuggahlad7]

Subtle? Ha!

[@wtfwhereami]

Omfg. KZbin keeps deleting my comments. All I’m saying is I’d love to take a jab at GP if you know what I’m saying.

[@mr.throwback4875]

Love that Goop…. 😂 😆😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@BetaBuxDelux]

@@wtfwhereami I’m sure she’s ready for you to give her a vaccination.

[@theemptyatom]

The Urantia book is right up there too in terms of bizarre

[@chad7982]

Love the animation. The enema doctor had me cracking up! He was all smiles!

[@jeremythornton433]

My dad ate Kellogg's Corn Flakes every day for well over 60 years. One day I mentioned that he must really like them. He said no! He f*&king hated them! He said it was just a habit and he'd never tried anything else. I didn't have a response.

[@alicentmarveltrra2504]

Just Perhaps, he *is* the response? 🤔😰🥶 (Pavlov would have been delighted with the American public)

[@myscreen2urs]

Kellogg's coke flakes maybe? 🤔

[@Lucius1958]

I couldn't help thinking of 'Saki's famous story, "Filboid Studge": *"He had discovered that people will do things out of a sense of duty, which they would never attempt as a pleasure..."*

[@whereswaldo5740]

Habits are hard to break whether they be good or bad. There is an old saying. Be careful of your habits. They are first spider webs. Then chains that bind us.

[@karencawthorn3173]

Me neither.... ?????

[@ludoviajante]

Imagine if history lessons were as entertaining as this guy's videos.

[@WIProgress]

I've had good teachers before who made classes fun

[@nadinearyomo3048]

everyone would be historians

[@ireneparkin3360]

History would be very intriguing (and interesting).

[@Demianz]

For me always history class was my favorite sometimes you got too chill and just talk about stuff from the past while the teacher goes on a rant about his whole life.

[@The_Greipist]

I'd say he's the Bill Nye of history, but by that I mean 90s Bill Nye, 2020s Bill Nye is a tool, lol

[@mtaylor7307]

@2:36 my fav: makes G Paltrow look sane. Thank you publically acknowledging what most of us, who bother to even consider her at all, actually think.

[@Naturephile55]

My great grandfather was a male nurse at this sanitarium, and when he died Kellog tried to adopt his widow's children, my maternal grandfather being one of them.

[@Hadgerz]

Kellogg's...well fun fact, there's a cereal brand in Australia called *'Sanitarium'* - it was founded by one of John Kellogg's bakers who left the company and migrated here.

[@maymay5600]

Ouuuu interesting I didn't know that

[@David_Rafuse]

And they make the brand of Marmite sold in New Zealand.

[@ras351]

At least he wasn't a cereal killer.

[@boujiebarbie3198]

This was one of the most enjoyable casts I've ever heard. I had no intent to listen to it now but I couldn't stop once I started. I hope the rest of yours are like this. I just sub'd🥰

[@Obelion_]

guess its wholesome that in the end the psychotic doctor didnt invent cornflakes after all, and the little brother who got bullied became rich

[@dominikfulop7188]

Me: Takes corn flakes to bed with my girl Kellogs ghost: *cries in the corner*

[@MrArthoz]

Which ghost? The younger one would give you two thumbs up!

[@dynamicflashy]

@@MrArthoz And a wink.

[@bluescorpion5954]

If his SDA faith is true, he doesn't have a ghost.

[@Acroposthion]

He’s probably laughing - if you’re circumcised….

[@samlsd9711]

😆😂🤣😆😂🤣

[@Curt_Randall]

Also little known fact, John Kellogg was the first fruit loop.

[@sweetfreeze5528]

I see what you did there 😹

[@jh9391]

Bwahahahaha

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

U nailed it

[@ayetam_aye]

😂😂😂😂

[@michelleowens3998]

🤭

[@notbubblystarters05]

*Me (an Asian who only eat rice for breakfast), sees the caption: Hmm. I n t e r e s t i n g 🤔*

[@davethelen4327]

Second documentry Ive watched.Thanks so much!!Great humour and great interest!!Enjoyed it immensly!!

[@ShortHax]

Man, Kellogg just wanted us to suffer with cardboard spheres coated with sugar

[@K_ingh16]

What have you been eating?

[@ryanmc2864]

Minus the sugar

[@alicentmarveltrra2504]

Cornflakes were just Pavlov’s consolation prize to the mutilated.

[@dark_fire_ice]

Sans sugar, much like Graham, Kellogg believed basically, if it makes you feel something it's bad for you

[@Sinn0100]

No man, Corn Flakes don't come with sugar. That's Frosted Flakes and they're absolutely fantastic.

[@robertgotschall1246]

I once lived in Battle Creek in the late 50s. Many of my friend's parents worked at Kellogg's but the only thing I knew about the man was the Black Squirrels in town that he'd supposedly introduced. It's odd though that as far out as he was, some of his ideas weren't that bad. Light therapy has been suggested for people living in higher latitudes to prevent the high suicide rate due to short day length. And while corn flakes were derided because they were thought to contain less food value than the box they came in, granola is still popular. And yogurt is still thought of as a probiotic. My mom was a nurse in the 40s and enemas were routine for constipation.

[@magoostus]

I'll see you at church on saturday

[@Lyle-xc9pg]

I recently gave myself an enema. You can buy them anhwhere, they didnt just dissapear

[@Fleato]

Enema are still routine in the medical field.

[@ethanuys6903]

How old are you

[@whereswaldo5740]

As a nurse for 17 years I can tell you not all enemas are good. And even the store brought should be used sparingly. Many home remedies for them are downright detrimental exacerbating constipation and worse wiping out good bowel flora. And never use something you sent away for or ordered off the internet. I know a fellow nurse that paid like $150 ( there’s one born every minute) and claimes they were never the same again.

[@ganymede3141]

Love your channel. Ridiculously educational and entertaining. Keep it going. 👍👍

[@jimcoop5663]

Thank you! These history lessons are absolutely Fabulous!

[@Saasan]

As someone who grew up Seventh-day Adventist, I am amused and delighted by how many of his health theories are still practiced here. There is a literal college that still doesn't serve pepper thanks to him. And yes, I did hear the "you should chew 40 times" argument. Great stuff. Interestingly, while SDAs do still believe in the very imminent return of Christ, there is now a large emphasis on education, and LOTS of Adventists become doctors.

[@bhimsenluchooman4046]

@Saasan. I am a born again christian. I believe in Jesus. God is El Shaddai.

[@mintinggoodwithchocolatech2278]

Makes sense why my mom and sis are doctors.

[@davidarundel6187]

Says much about the state of health care today , and the attitude of some MD's , towards patients and junior staff alike - based on more than 60 years of exposure to modern medicine .

[@williskh90]

I agree as Seventh-day Adventist currently pursuing a doctorate (my fourth degree). Education has always had a strong influence in my home.

[@spirit-walkerwaters4521]

I was a Seventh Day Adventist for 18 years until I became ill and researched Ellen White and ALL her writings. She was no prophet but a fake who criticized people, didn't live up to her own statements and standards of living, nor God's word, and she plagiarized many other people all over the place, claiming ot was God who told her things. That's why her teachings on health were similar to the gurus of her day! They church has some truthful doctrines, but many FALSE. GOD led me out. Kellogg was a spiritually sick man, as well Ellen White. I spent 2 months at Uchee Pines and was treated horrible and became even more ill. I'm well now because I left the indoctrinated lies. My relationship with God is stronger than I ever had. I feel sorry for the friends that are still in that denomination.

[@cindym8342]

Whenever I see Kelloggs corn flakes, I think "anti-masturbation food". LOL! I learned about this years ago, in a psychology class. Whenever I told my friends about corn flakes, Dr. Kellogg's daily enemas, and refusal to consumate his marriage, they looked at me like they didn't really believe me. Thank you for this video. 😄

[@theimmortal4718]

Well, we know it doesn't do that! 🤣

[@earlysda]

It wasn't "anti-masturbation food". You've bought into a lie.

[@rowenkylee5627]

I feel bad for his wife. Bedtime fun is important part of a relationship until a certain old age.

[@sherry356]

Have you actually done any of your own research on enemas, its benefits, and the history of cornflakes? I'm not surprised your friends didn't believe you since half of what you're spouting is just nonsense.

[@prixe12]

@@sherry356 shut up sherry

[@_RydenXx]

In the end, you’ll never find a bond deeper than two brothers.

[@LifeInPink999]

I feel sad for the “normal” brother apparently he wanted to hear what was written in that letter and because of a decision of some entitled secretary not even a familiar he didn’t have that letter till the end of his life probably bearing the weigh of a grudge he could have left long ago. The other one, well maybe he saw his wrongdoings when he was left all alone and broke but it doesn’t excuse the physical and mental pain he caused to people who probably were forced to be interned in his sanitarium by their families and obviously children who didn’t have a say in any of that.

[@siddhantpandey2000]

I would never miss a History Lecture. If my teacher would teach like this.

[@ate5ive866]

I had a history teacher like this a great story teller.

[@naejimba]

At one point, I was very close to finishing a degree in education. Unless you are teaching at a college, you don't really get to choose what you teach. There is a curriculum you have to follow, and there are standardized tests you have to prepare students for... and it's not like they would have any time to teach anything extra, especially since the consequences of your kids not doing well on them. This is why teachers "teach for the test" and don't include anything beyond that. The school board is the one who decides what text book you use. You might have to submit lesson plans to the principal for approval (and at any time, they can decide what you are teaching shouldn't be taught). If they have a requirement for you to teach them about LGBTQ+ you are doing it whether you want to or not. You really don't get much say in it. Think of it like working in a McDonalds... they tell you what you will do and how to do it and you go through the motions. If management wants to change how things are done you don't get a vote.

[@solus8685]

@@naejimba I'd gladly teach about the lgbtq+ community and its history like gay asf Greece

[@jonathandavis346]

I chew me food like 3 times.

[@athanasia6766]

Tell those same stories for 40 years and you'd be a little bland too. Why can't kids just watch KZbin videos and docu-dramas and take tests?? I bet they'd learn more. Especially if they infer allot about sex. Keeps their interest thinking they might get to see a booby.

[@MrSkitlesFiddles]

"'This is coming from the guy that invented the chair that vibrates and flogs you and liked shoving yogurt up people's bums." That's the best thing I've heard all morning lol 8:25

[@cherry.7199]

hahahaha good one

[@acgillespie]

*makes ya feel all warm n fuzzy don't it?*

[@normahepburn1643]

Coffee ground enemas, soap sud enemas and other ingredient enemas are still in use today. Stool from a healthy person with good gut bacteria is put into an ill person with poor gut bacteria via up the but, this is done also these days. It is easy to laugh through ignorance but smarter to research if there is any valuable truth to it. This man mocks( the narrator) light therapy which is used extensively for depression in hospitals and nursing homes around the world. Kellog may have been mistaken in some of his ideas but had a good grasp on othersthat are still in use today.

[@garywait3231]

Thanks for this informative and entertaining documentary on the Kellogg brothers. As an American cultural historian I was somewhat familiar with their story, and the link to corn flakes cereal. And as a collector of odd Americana, I have in my collection a first edition copy of John's first book, published in Battle Creek in the late 1870's. A general home management book, it already contains some foreshadowing of his later fads and obsessions. So glad to have discovered your channel, to which I've enthusiastically subscribed. P.S. I despise corn flakes!😉

[@hydra-br5fl]

"Clearly his talents were wasted in medicine."... i laughed more than i should.

[@AwokenEntertainment]

Who knew cereal has such a dark and twisted history.. you always finding the craziest topics to speak on!

[@annuitcptis3032]

Where is the dark history?

[@SiccDeville]

origins to nursery rhymes too.

[@AmateurHEROduelist]

Well Kellogg’s teamed up with the united fruit company to advertise putting bananas on your cereal and well the united fruit company… yikes

[@sparklejuice]

"He was the quackiest quack who ever quacked". You used one word in superlative adjective, common noun, and intransitive verb form, and made me spray my wine all over the computer. Absolutely brilliant.

[@namasaya8963]

Yeah

[@Blox117]

you are easily amused

[@whereswaldo5740]

I never thought knowing such boring grammar could be so amusing.

[@jeremias-serus]

He does this gag like once a month. And it’s not like he’s the first person to do it.

[@whysoserious7014]

Thats comedy, what's funny for one, may not to another.

[@ceiserchief]

"so we probably shouldnt lsten to anything they say" Ive been watching your videos for like a decade or some shit, and I still love how surprisingly n refreshingly blunt u can be at times; dont change dude..

[@dolphinsandextraterrestria3839]

Good on Will for getting out of that relationship and succeeding on his own .

[@MichaelNealeYT]

I can tell you that corn flakes are ineffective

[@rubenknight5087]

Bro same

[@IvanOoze1990]

Maybe we just need to eat more.

[@billthetraveler51]

Try enemas.

[@whereswaldo5740]

In what way?

[@pancon5]

They really are.

[@workingmothercatlover6699]

Being the youngest in my family, I feel for Will. When he wanted to be independent, his brother tried to suppress him.

[@tayler7441]

Will was the fun brother.

[@MissNush22]

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[@macaylacayton2915]

yeah, I'm the youngest in my family as well(though only by 5 years in comparison to my older brother)

[@liviwaslost]

@@MissNush22 did you have a stroke?

[@MissNush22]

@@liviwaslost i don’t remember ever writing that🤣🤣 omg

[@Sara-hm4hc]

I LOVE your accent!! (And also your sense of humor!) You kept me hooked up all 18 minutes!! 😊💪🏻

[@billding7073]

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

[@breadcrumbhoarder]

Something tells me a lot of people might’ve liked the vibrating chair for reasons Kellogg wouldn’t have appreciated lol

[@flamenmartialis6839]

It's like the first vibrators, they was invented to treat hysteria in women. I guess many women got hysteria for the treatment.

[@sunofshangoihate45thihated85]

@Wary Trout 😳

[@rowenkylee5627]

@Wary Trout There exist apps for the phone now to do that.

[@rowenkylee5627]

Not at that speed. I believe he said the speed was 60 hertz. That's major harsh shaking.

[@TheLastRomantic68]

His treatments are effective without damaging the body. There are no side effects like stroke or heart attack..

[@alicewilloughby4318]

3:12 - I give John serious props for educating himself in the face of parents and a church that were constantly telling him there was no need!

[@faithreturns333]

Everybody is mocking him but I'm glad to see you saw something that he did which was good

[@jjj6446]

@@faithreturns333 he put people in penis prison

[@kingsamuelofficial]

It was the church that paid for his education.👀

[@earlysda]

The Seventh-day Adventist Church has always been vocally pro-education, which is why the SDA Church now has the 2nd largest Christian denomination church school system in the world.

[@jjj6446]

@@earlysda it is also anti balanced diet and anti sex

[@philomelodia]

To me, the amazing thing is that he was allowed to get away with all of this. He was given power over others. With him, definitely, power corrupts. Horrid man.

[@wintersbattleofbands1144]

Morality laws still persist in the USA.

[@tjcola7703]

people chose to go to his infirmary, they could leave at any time. doesn't excuse what he did but he only went out of business when people stopped showing up

[@mytry4realz29]

I saw this on the History Channel. The show was called "The Food that built that America". This was one of the stories shared. I know this story by heart. Soooo interesting.

[@dlilwon]

Hey gurrrr, good to see ya outside you know where 🤭😆🤗

[@mytry4realz29]

@@dlilwon 🤣🤣🤣 Hey you!!! Once we see each other, in the you know where sector. I never think, we could run into each outside of that. Yay us!!! Lol. Something else we have in common 🥰💎🛸.

[@garyclouse4164]

the 1994 film "The Road to Wellville" was based on semi-fictional accounts of Dr Kellog's therapies, with Anthony Hopkins playing the part of Dr Kellog

[@frankquagmire]

That is my favorite movie!

[@willisj1515]

I remember this movie too 😂😂😂

[@kimmariefaber4636]

I didn’t know there was a movie, I read the book and it was great!

[@frankquagmire]

@@kimmariefaber4636 For me it is the best comedy ever, but the reviews for the movies were not good. Probably not mainstream humor. The movie has a great cast, Mathew Broderick, John Cusack, Bridget Fonda. It is like the actors went all out for the movie

[@queenSummerKeli]

I was going to ask if anyone had seen this flick. It is one of my favs!!! Sooo funny.

[@sarahrawson626]

The insane thing is that the Battle Creek Sanitarium is now used for two things. Because there was more than one location. One is a prison, the second a VA hospital/ long term care facility. Both of my parents, and many of my ancestors were from this part of Michigan. The famed cereal city has a lot of history definitely worth digging into. Thank you for this episode. I had to share it with my friends and family.

[@megamax898]

I looked into this because I'm thinking of concepts to have in a history based horror game. I couldn't find anything about the prison, and the VA hospital was from the 1940s and 1950s. Could you tell me more about the prison?

[@B.H.56]

the main building is now a Federal office building. You can peek in the lobby, but that's it.

[@nolesy34]

Cereal city.. sounds like racoon city

[@carlocuoghi3977]

This man really is capable of the best humor in the world, while narrating the most interesting things!

[@pennywollett3953]

Fun Fact: Dr Kellogg build a house here in Morro Bay California in the early 1900's which my husband worked on the garden for 30 years or so. When the owner died the care taker our friend moved in for while with her husband. They said that the house was haunted 👻 and didn't go in certain rooms after dark. They moved out over 10 years ago and no one has lived in it since. The family tried to sell the house and never could even though it is a beautiful home which has a outstanding view of the Pacific Ocean.

[@womensarmycorpsveteran2904]

Many, many, many years ago we took a tour of the Kellogg factory. It was magic to an 8 year old and at the end we each got mini boxes of frosted flakes. A sweet memory.

[@alexwilder8315]

Another sevvie kid, no doubt. Hello and have you had your nutolene lately?

[@lenblack1462]

That's not health food.

[@anandabliss9997]

@@lenblack1462 who said anything about health?

[@lenblack1462]

@@anandabliss9997 They preach a health message.

[@Jollynoose]

@@alexwilder8315 i have tried to find the definition of the word nutolene with no results. Im not a 7th day Adventist but i do go to church with them and argue with them about some of their beliefs which gets me in some hot water alot. Please tell me what nutolene is.

[@Jonkenstonk]

I already know this story but it's so weird that I'm still just gonna stay.

[@joshuachandra6677]

This man has a way of telling stories why wouldn't you

[@dudeadonaiski]

It's the stache. That god blessed stache.

[@Jonkenstonk]

Yeah the stache is pretty good

[@fabik805]

You often think you heard these stories but this dude expands upon them with some new information. I was always surprised in every video of him even if I already knew the story.

[@acgillespie]

Great choice

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!

[@principecaprincipeca2243]

Your funny and I truly like your voice. Why haven't I stumbled in to your channel before?? Definitely subscribing😂

[@juilenechilton6294]

I work at Kellogg’s in Battle Creek! My whole family has worked here. Thank you for the great video on John Harvey.

[@Starfish2145]

Did they talk about what a sick monster that guy was?

[@juilenechilton6294]

@@Starfish2145 As a matter of fact yes . My great-great grandmother worked at the San, and I remember the stories my grandmother would tell us about things that happened there. Actually, “The Road to Wellville” portrayal of J. H. Kellogg. A lot of people don’t know that W. K. loved Arabian horses, and his stable in California is home to the purest Egyptian Arabian line in North America.

[@juilenechilton6294]

@ProgM Actually, yes, over half of the plant employees have been pushing to reduce sugar and chemical additives. The Battle Creek plant also makes the lion share of all the Canadian products, and Canada has strict rules regarding both of those issues; we would like our cereal to return to the more natural state. (Since the late ‘80’s our cereal taste has declined.)

[@klionfan1]

My mow retired from Kellogg's, I wonder if you knew her? Her name was Dorothy Caswell.

[@Promses2Keep]

I'll never look at cornflakes the same way again.

[@whereswaldo5740]

In the movie Road to Wellville the pigs wouldn’t even eat em. Too funny. And is allegedly true.

[@edwardbontrager9721]

You don't look at them, you think about them and touch yourself. My god, how fun is this conversation!

[@superdude899]

"Masturbation is not gr-r-reat!" - Tony the Tiger

[@wernerretief4569]

Yes nobody knows much about Seventh Day Adventists and Jehova's Witnesses except they hate Catholics, pork .... and masturbation.

[@wernerretief4569]

But they go into lockdown every Friday at sunset and emerge Saturday nights full of renewed energy to cut their lawns on a Sunday morning.

[@cgrisaffiudtl]

“My own stools, Sir, are gigantic and have no more odor than a hot biscuit.”

[@groundrodshorts]

Great presentation of this obscure story! Wow!

[@stevekathman1291]

If you think yogurt enemas are bad, wait until you hear about fecal transplants given by enema or even orally to treat recurrent c.diff colitis and inflammatory bowel disease... and it works really well.

[@dungeaterfancam]

Call me crazy but yoghurt enemas sound worse than poop enemas. One thing is supposed to be in the bowels and the other is not. Plus if it’s done medically then there’s no real issue, not like they just fish the poop out of the toilet for the procedure, it’s specially treated I presume lol

[@xenogorwraithblade2538]

"Eat shit and live." ~ some really kinky doctor, I guess, I dunno

[@nolesy34]

*laughing Ass to ass

[@shelbycarscadden765]

I always expect the bad guy to win in these history lessons because that's usually how it pans out. It's refreshing to, for once, hear about a person with purer intentions win and the "villain" get what he deserves in the end.

[@josephfox9221]

But his brother had pure intentions. His methods were questionable but he actively wanted to make people healthier

[@Skylancer727]

@@josephfox9221 though his actions basically involved breaking people mentally, disfiguring them, and traumatizing them. Even if his actions were built under good intent, it's very unlikely these people supported the acts brought on to them over just being kicked out of the place.

[@mmoviefan7]

sugar won

[@josephfox9221]

@@Skylancer727 but the other brother was only interested in making a profit by exploiting children with colorful toys to sell sugar laced foods to. And basically started the dessertifciation of breakfast in America leading to the obesity of millions

[@skindianu]

He was getting what he wanted in the "end" all those years. Sounds like they both won.

[@josuesjourney6931]

That pure bred eugenics vibe emanating from the portrait😬

[@HughJarsol]

So the psychopath’s brother actually invented the cereal.

[@AnimasiKanasia]

I am Seventh Day Adventist and I am not proud of John. The church literally fired him off from the organization due to his belief.

[@cmbtheambassador5773]

There's much more to that story... You may wanna check out the book Prophetess of Health by Ronald Numbers

[@imczgnito]

Lol I was looking for this comment

[@morbidmanmusic]

All religions should be fired. Don't think one is above another... they are all sort of a mental illness, when looked at rationally.

[@stopsign2447]

@@morbidmanmusic atheism moment

[@kathycurtis6359]

@@cmbtheambassador5773 You might want to read what was written by Ellen White and then make a decision based upon all the facts.

[@Lady_Chalk]

I watched a program, “Mysteries at the Museum”, on this. One missing bit: a poor entrepreneur was a patient there at the time. He found Will’s writing desk open with the corn flakes recipe, stole it, quickly left, and created his own corn flakes. His name? C.W.Post of Post cereals.

[@NorthernKitty]

Actually, Post worked in the kitchen at the sanitarium. I doubt he needed to find the recipe in a desk. I think the real story is much simpler - he knew precisely how it was made, saw the market potential and went out on his own to make it. The Kelloggs were slow at getting into mass-marketing of their products. Will Kellogg didn't start the "Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company" until 1906. Post had already been capitalizing on his knowledge of their various breakfast products since 1897.

[@PotPoet]

C. W. Post worked at the Sanitarium. He helped John Kellogg in the production of his sugarless corn flakes. The invention was made to have an easy to serve whole grain breakfast available for residents of the Sanitarium. I was raised as a Seventh-day Adventist (SDA). I left them in 1981. My family has been SDA for four generations and my great grandparents and grandparents on my father's side lived in Battle Creek. I have visited the old sanitarium site and I personally knew some of the Kellogg family. Kellogg's lunacy also infected Ellen Gould White (nee Harmon) who was the so-called "prophet" of the SDA sectarians. She frequently attended the sanitarium for her many health issues and she lauded Kellogg at one time and she advocated many Kellogg ideas in her writings (I read all of them). Kellogg and White were both too egotistical and they were both too wacky to have such an alliance continue. They eventually denounced each other. On the positive side: the Battle Creek Sanitarium was famous for its successful hydrotherapy treatments.

[@ericaonline3739]

You're kidding! Wow!

[@createdcreated1977]

@@PotPoet Sad you left the true Remnant Christopher. You can see how her writings in, "The Great Controversy" are spot on. She never claimed to be a prophet, but only a messenger of God. She was human and did her best on what she knew. Like all the other prophets in the Bible. They were flawed, but God still used them for His ultimate purpose.

[@dannybryant3141]

@@createdcreated1977 Well said. As a SDA PK… the issue has and will always be, people not studying the word of God. E.G. White always said she is the lesser light, leading to the greater light. But if you ever doubt and are are unsure, follow the Bible. I’m NOT a fan of man-made doctrine. But you surely can read the Great Controversy and the Bible …they do agree. I’m 47, and it still amazes me how people don’t understand context. It is IMPERATIVE to pray before reading the scriptures, so that one can gain understanding and wisdom. God bless.

[@TaffyGreeZay]

You're a great teacher! I'm hooked!

[@Ellenad369]

Brilliant video thank you... I laughed so much I nearly choked on my breakfast.🤣😂♥️👍

[@Brind-amour]

"Wellness, you know? The industry all crazies hang out in" 😂😂😂You made my day!

[@meru0796]

"When he wasnt pumping yogurt up peoples aholes' The most legendary phrase ever used on the interweb full stop.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@macaylacayton2915]

weirder enemas exist bruh

[@SeekerOTheWay]

Very well done. I highly recommend the historical fiction book by T. Coraghesson Boyle "The Road to Wellville".

[@erdnati]

Psychopaths are like science.. Excellent once expressed for the good of humanity

[@loreebrew38]

The sanitarium became a military hospital during WWII. My mom was a nurse there, I think it was called Percy Jones hospital. It is now a federal building.

[@HeavilyCensoredKitty]

I wonder if it’s haunted?

[@efrainl956]

Thanks for sharing that piece of information. I was wondering what had happened to it.

[@skindianu]

So in other words, people are still taking it up the ass at that place?

[@shoelicker]

O7

[@ximar0ckstrx]

The original hospital burned down in 1902. The sanatorium was then rebuilt and what stands now

[@thomaslamson299]

"Love your Breakfast. Eat your Drugs. Dont do Family." - James Kellogg, probably

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Funny

[@everyone4352]

Love your drugs Don't do breakfast Ea-

[@SubjectDelta20]

Wow that was a really interesting video, I had never heard about any of this stuff before, it's like I was in school again. Unfortunately I'll also never be able to buy cornflakes again without thinking about vibrators chairs and yogurt enema's. Definitely subscribed though, teach me more crazy stuff.

[@adrianthomas1473]

Very nice talk - the story is interesting- and the radiology with James Case. Have you anything on Case? In the UK we have Arbuthnot Lane and removal of the colon for constipation- also done at Battle Creek. The radiologists gave scientific credibility.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

_"Before cereals, breakfast had been fatty, stodgy food, like porridge and greasy bacon"_ That's a solid start to the day in Scotland 😂

[@markl5998]

Ton of people in the US still eat this way every day

[@JaceReboot]

Pancakes and pemeal with generous maple syrup for us Canadians lol or a cement thick bowl of oatmeal with generous milk n brown sugar on those frigid -40C winter days

[@physicsariel9237]

Put some glasses on him and he’ll look like colonel Sanders

[@gerarduspoppel2831]

Shit you are right😅😂

[@an0rmalp3rson70]

That's what I thought during the cartoon

[@oliversherman2414]

"The quackiest quack ever to quack" 😂

[@NotMadNomadZephyr]

Thanks for this, super interesting!! 😁

[@TasiaLatimore112]

"Chew, chew, chew, that is the thing to do" had me cracking up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ozehlaw]

And the part that he added that he was wasting his talent in medicine.

[@cynthiamgrooms8195]

Makes you wonder how many of his siblings died BC of him, & how much of “child observations” were made towards his very potent father & fertile mother!!!

[@JamesSmith-pg7xp]

6

[@afeaaserhna8785]

Lol "One of them was the quackiest quack who ever quacked."

[@enestuzcuoglu1575]

You are good and very talented another Amazing lessons pls.keep going 👏

[@melaniemills4505]

Good for William for striking out on his own...he deserved the success he received! 👏

[@daleo6289]

I don’t know how on earth you pluck these history lessons from the arse hairs of life gone by,but I love these vids either way. Keep up the great work 👌🏻

[@earlysda]

He "plucks them" out of thin air, as a lot of what he said in this video is entirely made up.

[@novellanurney1294]

Watch the movie " The Road to Wellsville " based on Battle Creek. Anthony Hopkins plays Kellogg. It is a bit of a dark comedy.

[@henrijs1733]

@@earlysda care to elaborate?

[@henrijs1733]

"the arse hairs of life gone by" man, you are a poet

[@infinite4392]

he had a yogurt enema, obviously. xD

[@davidarundel6187]

Cornflakes were never on our family's menu , nor rice bubbles . Wheatbix , were cheaper so served up to us kids over summer , with porridge during winter - always made with whole raw milk . Sometimes , we got "Creamota" , which was preferable to porridge and made the same way , with extra cream on top with a sprinkling of soft brown sugar .

[@christinebeames2311]

It was he who said “ breakfast is the most important meal in the day “ to get rid of a waste product .

[@jonathandeschenes2973]

Binge watching all your videos while I’m frozen into these third shifts really be helping the time move by 🙏🏻 thanks thoughty! For those who don’t know working 2nd and 3rd shift takes a lot out on your mental and physical health.

[@thepoliticallyambidextrous678]

I can't beleive I was forced to chew 40 times my whole childhood. You know what it is like to chew your mashed potatoes that many times?

[@eekee6034]

I've tried chewing a lot. You have all of my sympathies!

[@ximar0ckstrx]

I tried this once and I made me want to throw up.

[@paulawolanski3237]

People try to swallow their food whole and that's how they choke.

[@alexisjuillard4816]

Yeah i've been that hungover at a family lunch

[@Em_Elizabeth]

"Chew your juice"

[@CissyBrazil]

Great and entertaining video!! 💜

[@-cMc-]

I knew I stopped eating cereal for a reason. I was so disturbed by the surgical procedures and then to find out he was doing it to kids !!! Oooh God.

[@zenvirgil]

Cereals are probably one of the unhealthiest foods you can eat at breakfast.

[@kingsamuelofficial]

They we’re not created to be that’s why john and his brother broke up..

[@baldmichaelresoluteprotect1206]

Dear@LUIS VAL Probably not, although that depends on what the cereal crop was sprayed with. If it was Glycophosphate then possibly. Much USA bacon contains sodium nitrite, a poison which need not be used as salt quite sufficient for curing. Sodium nitrite leads to nitrosamines in certain conditions which are even more toxic. Hence much of USA's poor health issues today. Kind regards Baldmichael Theresoluteprotector'sson

[@_Hal9000]

@@baldmichaelresoluteprotect1206 You mean glyphosat? That is sprayed on the ground before sowing seeds. If handled in correct amounts it should be decayed by the time the plant grows. But yeah, rests remain.

[@earlysda]

Cereals are the staff of life, Fedora. You must be thinking of cereals with sugar on them.

[@zenvirgil]

@@earlysda Yes, I mean those. There are healthier cereals though, like whole wheat cereal biscuits , shredded wholegrain pillows, porridge oats and the mueslis (high fiber, no added sugar and salt).

[@gottagift]

Neato. I had always recognized Kellogg as a person smart enough to realize that good hygiene was elemental to good health. But i have now learned that it was Will Kellogg, rather than John who helped feed America

[@user-rh1jo1yy9e]

I didn't know that's where the chewing your food until it was a liquid came from. I had come across the idea in a book when I was a kid, so I did it just because I thought it was good for keeping the jaw strong.

[@learningnew732]

It just helps in digestion like fast and easy to digest food with good chewing

[@espinacaconpolvo]

"The quackiest quack to ever quack" is now my favorite quote