Meeting: Loss of identity can be scary and confusing || Non-duality

[@rationalmystic5]

Suzanne. You put everything so perfectly into words. "Anger doesn't arise but there is a firmness in expression. I don't really grasp at my mom or push her away. I can't fake it anymore. I feel a common love for all things . ". So so so perfectly said. Thanks for your work. Just discovered your channel yesterday and am binging on it.

[@rjfranquiz]

Good to see many coming together as one about ONE. Sometimes I wish to converse, none around (me) understands; and then no need or desire is required; a planet full of people that is also wholely uninhabited... What a recognition! All is interconnected, ...convergence. Yes, the seer and the seen collapsed to the seeing, etc., etc. The collapsing of conscious contacts to a single point. Body/Mind works perfectly on its own without the imaginary ghost of personal self-ING.

[@onelove1968]

There is nothing to dissolve or disappear. It's simply a realization (a thought!) that the 'independent self' never actually existed in the first place.

[@stefaniestrauss1182]

It’s not a thought. It’s also not a realization, since only thoughts realize something. The experience is of nothing, complete emptiness and wonder. But not for a person. The “me” vanishes and all there is, is what’s happening. Movements and noises with no meaning. The minds still understand the noises, but more in a visceral way. It’s like the body hears, instead of the mind. Answers come also more from the body. And so it’s clear that the body is “doing” not the mind. ❤

[@Nothingbuttruth0]

@@stefaniestrauss1182 if there is no meaning, just noises how you will sense danger for others, with a child for example? Thank you 🤍

[@sherrilawrence662]

I really appreciate your channel ❤ I'm chronically ill and severe PTSD. I am seeking lol big time...many non dual teachers really lack the other wing of compassion with their awakinging wisdom, not you much gratitude 🙏

[@stefaniestrauss1182]

Nancy: you spoke beautifully! The vulnerability of speaking out can feel scary but it can also be very freeing! I felt a lot of love while hearing to you. Thanks for sharing ❤

[@suzanne-chang]

Thanks Stefanie. Much love.

[@ski8799]

My experience has been different. My perception is that this illusory world and the experience is like a movie, when you go the cine, you know that Tom Cruise is not really flying an F-18 at Mach 3, but you enjoy it nonetheless. You can still enjoy the movie, so I enjoy it, but the experience is certainly much lighter as the ego falls away more and more. This has manifested as a reduction from a career to an hourly job, from an SUV to a compact used car, reduction of useless stuff, no travel or travel plans, reduction of friends or acquaintances. As more falls away, more and more things become irrelevant.

[@kevinmai2947]

Judging from your youtube channel you have pretty fun hobbies to enjoy the illusion here!

[@lindam4133]

Is this how you (would) relate to your children, too?

[@marksavoia3687]

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Matt 11:29,30

[@AbdullaArrabi]

As the illusion/mind is dissolving while surrendering to the unknown, there will be confusion/resisting, then the confusion/resisting disappears as the confused/resistant one (mind) disappears.

[@stefaniestrauss1182]

A lot of resistance happening in the body here around having to work too. I have a job and I still fight to keep it, but seems as if it’s getting harder... Winter is also coming and this also reduce the willingness of doing anything here. Feels depressing and uncomfortable. But at the same time there is the seeing that it’s just happening and the urge to change anything then fades away. Like a cycle getting repeated over and over again, but nothing is affected by it at all. ❤

[@judysparx]

Totally kickass! ⚡️ No words. Just gratitude 🙏

[@rjfranquiz]

Conversation reminds me to state about the "flywheel" effect. Many have written about this... This was experienced here as well, and it's said that it can happen. No fear the flywheel. It's the habituated mind of habits that are unwinding. Just know, each experience is unique, "...10,000 paths up the mountain." This young lady is nailing many descriptions that individuals can go through! Thank you. BTW, what the young man is asking through questions, there is no answer your mind/brain will get a handle on. If it happens, it happens... there's nothing "you" can do about it anyway. Once experienced, no more you, no more questions, unspeakable knowing will simply be.

[@banjojo3341]

Suzanne - why are you not doing art anymore? I discovered your channel a few days ago through your video about what they don't tell you about non duality. The vulnerability blew me away and to be honest it freaked me out. And yet so profound. Thank you so much for your channel.

[@amydickerson2145]

I'm not the body,mind or skin. I am the light 🕯️ that shines within. What you are looking for is located in the place that you are looking from.

[@Helelsonofdawn]

you are a nervous system controlled by a transistor in an electric universe with waves and magnitudes that only mathematicians can grasp trauma emotions are held in the heart and logic in the brain your cns/vagus is your soul self, your brain and body is millions of hosts and and living microspecies

[@timelessdreams5281]

Much love and gratitude! ❤🙏 Wish I could have made it to this free zoom but I found myself in another Zoom meeting at the time.

[@life13525]

Thank you Suzanne...love your openness to talk about this...

[@niksy4]

Thank you! It helps a lot! ❤️

[@blackiris3143]

Thanks!

[@suzanne-chang]

Thank you so much for the contribution Iris ♡ It's much appreciated!

[@sherrilawrence662]

Oh yeah meaning the Buddhist notion of the birds wings of wisdom and compassion. I saw you on Angelo channel. I like him because I believe that alot of teachers have bypassed and lack the full insights..re my other post

[@doctorwoowoo1465]

You are in a position whereby you can help people exit their delusions, but sometimes you do not take advantage. You must highlight back to them that the attempt to ' capture' or 'understand' the ego Less state, that extends from confused mind as ' babble '. You must make him aware his mindset, and in the actual witness of it, reveals the way to be free of the mind by being its witness ....

[@rjfranquiz]

Don't know about others', but here's a share: since "my death", the costume of the personal self can reappear, in order to function in today's world, but there is always, constantly two realities in this mind now - since just before Easter 2013. Every minute, every day, (huh, which is funny to say, knowing even space & time is a mental construct that can be witnessed to not be so). Can't help but for there to be laughter at this "cosmic joke!"

[@lindam4133]

Who wrote this comment if not a conceptual self?

[@TheMLMGold]

It doesn't have to be scary or confusing if we abide in the arms of God's love and praise. It is a relief to be free from the prison of identity. Afterall, it was identity that was so scary and confusing.

[@Fnelrbnef]

Hi, there Suzanne. Thanks for sharing. Do you think you could talk about something around the difficulty of being stuck inside the person? I for one, have heard the "Message". Countless times. There's nothing wrong. Never was. No person. Etc. However, I wonder how to approach it when you're down in the depth of Maya or whatever to call it. For me, the trouble can be my thoughts will constantly go, like I am in the center of my body. I don't know how to not be caught in the person who wants to figure stuff out. It feels like possession. Or maybe you have already talked about this in another video? What where some of your breakthroughs? Techniques along the way? What did you focus on? What helped? I can take an example from my own life... There was one day... I had gnawed at meditation on and off for years... stagnating.. this day, I understood that I was viewing any moment from within a mental idea. I didn't recognize they were running. Basically. Thoughts are so subtle. One tangle of thoughts was "me"- trying to watch those other thoughts over there, having expectations. "How am I doing" "How will this experiment go" Understand? One part of me was monitoring another other part of me. When I saw this, it felt like I took a step. Energy started to release in my body, because until that point, I WAS that mechanism. It was like taking a step behind an algorithm running in my head. That was and still is my only sort of Big Thing as of yet. I stilø get caught up in this stuff, I must be mindful at all times, or I get sucked into it again. I mean things like this. It was in no way a big opening, it was just that I saw part of the ego-mechanism I hadn't realised before. The This Is It-message... it's too much for me at this point. It bounces off like arrows on rock, and just sounds like words. I'm always interested in the small things, the teaspoon-thing. So I'm curious if there is anything, any techical approaches or insights you could share about your own journey before your awakening. You understand ? Thanks for sharing anyway.

[@johnb8854]

*With respect, there is NO CONFUSION in the Truth ! Confusion is caused by the presence of DOUBLE LOGIC in the human GENOME which Adversely affects ALL human functions, including "Thought" and "Reason" as well as causing Suffering...* *So become the Observer and Learn...*

[@AbscentOrange]

Interesting how the first question is concerned with what it will be… it feels like the ego scrambling for thoughts of definition? Shift of perception seems like an easy way to not describe too much…. Like awareness is still within a human body, so, for instance, instead of there being a headache and thoughts about it ruining your day or whatever thoughts follow, there’s just a headache and perhaps some aspirin 🙂. Peace and love, friends. At least that’s how I understand it, I am still mired in the pain body and fear of death and all that crap. I so want to shift my perception because worrying about my body failing and losing my job and all the worldly shit is torture.

[@OPTHolisticServices]

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[@natyaballetcentre6547]

Talk to Adyashanti, Mooji, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar … they are still around!

[@ravanti5780]

There isn't a "ME", there never was, the loss of identity is you becoming more conscious or aware and this can be a sensation can be interpreted as, depression, loss or painful even though their mind made

[@Helelsonofdawn]

this woman needs to do intentional asmr

[@GnosisMan50]

Would the loss of identity be regarded as existential depression?

[@MsThaithai11]

Loss of false identification,is the end of violence and the end of covering up heaven.... cheers

[@suzanne-chang]

It can but it's also different for everyone

[@bionicmalice]

do you have/know or point to any techniques to stop being identified with the mind and body permanently ?

[@stefaniestrauss1182]

No techniques can do anything. This superimpose there is something or an entity that can identify. The idea of a self is the vail. The self only exist in language. Take language away. Who are you then? ❤

[@Helelsonofdawn]

@@stefaniestrauss1182 an ape that can draw or sign to communicate

[@Helelsonofdawn]

evertthing hippies take at forest they litter in

[@rosa-boom-nonduality]

💗

[@Trainpaintoday]

21:25 it just doesn't know the unknown 🔺

[@aumthankyou]

🕉

[@19Marc79]

My recommendation to the 1s questioner: Listen ONLY to Paul Hedderman for a month or so ! And stop devouring new spiritual concepts while you listen to him.

[@samboelguapo6826]

Sounds cultish

[@aimane3375]

Thank you, will check him out

[@cosmicgliderBruce]

🤽🌦️nice, ty😂

[@molly203]

it’s so horrible

[@molly203]

“awakening” around unconscious people, having so many thoughts, seeing so much

[@mikeconway6186]

Thanks!

[@suzanne-chang]

Thank you so much Mike. Your generosity is truly appreciated. Thank you! ♡♡♡

[@sookhituite414]

❤️

[@suzanne-chang]

Thank you Sookhi. Much appreciated :)