Meeting the Indian Tanzanian Community (#34)

Tanzania's largest ethnic minority, the Indo-Tanzanian community has lived in the country for hundreds of years, some going back to even the Middle Ages. Many are descended from traders or indentured laborers from the state of Gujarat. The largest community is in Kisutu and Upanga in Dar es Salaam. Their history is complicated and sometimes tragic, but no one can deny they are Tanzanian.
#tanzania #sabbatical #india

[@danielstephens1313]

That gentlemen was on his way to the groccery store and he stopped to give you an amazing history. Thanks for recording that.

[@rkthoka]

what the local said was correct, all of the Indians arrived in 19th centruary are laborer to work in fields and other areas!

[@divinehopeandsmile]

🙂🙂

[@gauravgdt]

That economist was awesome

[@DHAVALPATEL-bp6hv]

That gentleman was truly gentle and knowledgeable!! 👌👌

[@venkatkrishnan7646]

Amazing to know the history. Thank you and that gentleman

[@anitakhandelwal307]

That economist bhaiya stays in my building 4 floor..many times I meet him in lift and even near reception desk..and talk a lot standing .he is very very nice at heart

[@AF-yq9es]

Love that Economist.

[@arunabha2321]

A true gentleman. Typical Indian personality.

[@music_freak457]

What is his name ,he looks very sensible person

[@dkkk62]

anita khandelwal please thank him ..he is really gentleman...love from India..

[@MRO1249]

If u see any Gujaratis u should say bhai .........bhaiya is said to North indians

[@badbeats5637]

That economist represented. Respect to him.

[@negroamaw324]

When I was in college we had a lot of foreign students in which I was a part of. Most were Thai, Korean and Indians who would walk together in groups. Since students from African countries were only like four of us; Nigeria, Zimbabwe and Kenya, I was startled when a new transfer student who looked Indian came to sit down where we african kids usually sit. Since he wouldn't hang out with the other regular Indian kids I thought he must have been from South Africa. But when I asked, he proudly said he was Tanzanian. I was surprised but more proud that we all got to represent mother Africa.

[@eccentricaste3232]

That's a beautiful story.

[@techtrial314]

This happened to me, as an international student ten years ago landing in an asian country being welcomed by African students who at first were baffled then surprised when i spoke Swahili and from there on it was like being at home again. Or the time i decided to talk about Tanzania without any hesitation at a school function and every indian asian was surprised that i was from Africa. Teaches you a lot about how people have preconceived notions about race and country.

[@techtrial314]

@@mang2453 Tanzanian born indians are mix of religions (Hindu, Muslim , Sikh, Christians) and i don't think a certain religious upbringing makes you loyal to your nation , My loyalty to Tanzania stems from the simple fact that this is my country and i will always remain Tanzanian regardless of my skin color , religion or location , and this what is unique about Tanzania we have learnt to live together as Tanzanians (agreed this is not for everyone )

[@KundaEstate]

Africa at Heart. Kudos Guys!

[@Apman99]

Yeah bro and western worlds need to learn that African is not Black peoples continent there alot of races and cultures

[@saketsharma937]

'where is your family' 'How many children' Peculiar Indian questions

[@sunilkumar-yp6xt]

and where is bhabi??

[@dindia6263]

Indian parents thinks like that only. Marriage and children with love and affection is the quality life of any human kind.

[@kitchen2516]

@@sunilkumar-yp6xt 😂🤣😂🤣.....sahi boley bhai...

[@MrReon1806]

It’s not called peculiar..it’s called “typical” Indian questions. Peculiar is negative word.

[@MrReon1806]

@Kabir S I am, but we are Indians, we can joke about things, or people but when it comes on country we don’t take it as joke. Country above everything. Other than this particular comment I enjoyed watching the whole video as well reaffirmed that Indians no matter whether they go they only make that nation proud..young or old all are genius just like this economic phd uncle in the video.

[@autisticblackwoman5941]

You stumbled on the right guy to give us a history lesson. I just learned so much.

[@arnabmukherjee6942]

Well... bro North Indian dishes is much tasty then south Indian dishes. If you really get taste then come to India. Because India is land of tasty food. I appreciate you vlog. Keep doing.Take care

[@kurogax]

Not just any economist, one with PhD and ability to sum up the interesting facts of Tanzania. How come you forgot to ask his name? Could be someone important in that city.

[@Powerofhelp]

it's sad that some Africans are treated badly in India and some Indians are treated badly in some African countries. I love the respect and kindness that you show people( I am shocked you're from NY). I learned a lot from the economist. I am planning to visit Tanzania I watch a lot of vlogs you are one of the best

[@dianamkita6571]

Karibu sana Tanzania Noel..

[@Sinasongway]

Hello Noel, It's very sad to read your comment about Africans being badly treated in India is total misunderstanding.India is the country where one can enjoy freedom more than that of one's home country. I see bright students coming to India for studies and some of them misuse this freedom and they get into drug deals and it's abuse then things go bad. These are a minority but they bring disgrace to the whole Africans.

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

@@chai_rI'm from india bro and most students who are in supplies and dealing of drugs are Africans here, 2 of them were restricted in 2019. It's the stereotype (which is mostly true) which brings bad name to African students. Though not all of them are like that, one of my best friend is also African, he is very good in studies.

[@vaibhav3946]

No country treats you badly as long as there is no offensive thing happening from your side. Moreover, media houses always overhype things. One of my neighbour was African (married to Indian) and she told us that in Nigeria they show churches in India getting vandalised and people misbehaving with Christians. She has started her own channel on YT just to show the reality to her people in Nigeria. Infact, there are some African majority villages in India and they are living since many years. Yeah few people from Africa who come as a student end up brining some 'not allowed' items and get caught/deported but that can happen anywhere in the world. Asian countries take drugs very seriously.

[@Powerofhelp]

@@vaibhav3946 I like the spirit of your response I said some we have the shameful example of Uganda in Africa, the writing of .T Rajshekar and what we read in media like the racist attacks in greater Noida near Delhi...I never been to India so what I said was based on reading Thanks

[@kiranmonnappa9955]

I lived in Tanzania in the year 2006 for a while , it's a great country , good place to live and friendly people around ,unforgettable memory in my life .

[@husseinremmyjohn2350]

🇹🇿🇹🇿🇹🇿

[@homeboybeyondtheborders4935]

Yes unforgettable

[@MbarakS]

This was very insightful, the economist taught me a bit of history! I went to pre-school in Kisutu and I have to say, the Indian community was very welcoming. I would go to the temple to drink fresh water whilst waiting for the school bus and got a lot of free food!

[@tharunkumar8133]

Asking to come inside when someone is talking from outside at the door is very Indian thing... 😅

[@chanakamahawatta9950]

I visit that area whenever I m in DSM. By the way get that Economist back and have a seperate interview. He really was an ocean of genuine information! Respect

[@irenejohn3141]

I studied in a school near the Indian temples and the induan community used to assist the students eho came from poor conditions . As A Tanzanian I can say that Tanzania is a very peaceful country and the people are loving and hospitable no mater their background or culture be it Indian or a native from the deepest part of the country. Id like to believe its the tanzanian spirit.

[@joycesichone4121]

Though l am Tanzanian and being rounded by may Indian temple and the primary school l stood was Singh school with temple aside but l didn't think to explore inside their temple,so you made a good work for me and you keep remind my childhood school,thank you sabbatical some times when you miss gongo and matako you do great footages,God bless you.🇹🇿

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Glad this brought back some good childhood memories!

[@ravindrathakkar1234]

@@SabbaticalTommy Next time in an Indian hotel go for South Indian breakfast ( dosa/vada/idly) and Punjabi Lunch ( North Indian) ( veg or non veg)

[@aaradhyarawat7589]

"Indian" is a Nationality, Not a name of religion. That temple might be Hindu Temple or Sikh Temple.

[@joycelinelyimo-fenske8745]

You are right. The question is how come they don't let Tanzanian media into their Temples. They let you white American with your shorts 😮. I don't understand how hyprocasy is can be even beyond religion values 😢

[@Imovement]

I love South Indian food infact all Indian food. Love following your journey.

[@jitendradivecha4410]

The City of my birth. The name means “Harbor of Peace “ Now I live in NYC. After Corona subsides will visit TZ in near future. Safari Njema!!!!🇹🇿🇺🇸

[@maishamazuri9897]

karibu tena kaka. me pia dar is my home. watching from Seattle

[@dianamkita6571]

Karibu nyumbani Jitendra

[@TheJournoN]

Is there a Tanzanian community in NYC?

[@maishamazuri9897]

@@TheJournoNYes.

[@TheJournoN]

@@maishamazuri9897 Where in NYC? I've come across Kenyans and other East Africans in NYC, but no Tanzanians

[@globalcitizen6340]

I already had fascination for African culture but now I am falling in love with Africa more after watching many of your videos. Thank you from India. :)😍

[@zahraissa8760]

I lived in India and loved their culture. I lived in Mysore which is south India and Delhi. There food is delicious and people are lovely. Made tons of amazing friend and can’t wait to go back.

[@archananarayana3544]

Love from Mysore❤ glad to know u liked my city

[@geopolitics94]

Tanzanians are receptive people and with genuine love for each others and foreigners.

[@Eniola0ne]

Tanzanian love their People and their Country. I have this admiration for Tanzania since, i was little Boy. I fell in love with Tanzania through Julius Kanbarage Nyerere Ujamma philosophy. Since then always have affinity with Tanzania. I end up marrying a Tanzanian and she give me my first Child 2 and half years ago My Daughter was born in Mwanza City. We reside in US

[@ksprakasan6080]

Great ...an American is doing a program on Indians in Tanzania ❤️❤️ From Kerala India

[@varunmohandas6030]

Pinalla😄

[@Sppah697]

Those Indians should go back to their country leave our coutry alone!

[@paparazzina1]

@@Sppah697 why do you say that, how have the Indian harmed you,

[@Sppah697]

So what! You treat Africans who lives In India like animals!

[@s.m4641]

True Spirit & Fine Africa..... it is a matter of different situation when you compare indians in Africa to Africans in India. The young African generation think they are very clever and do not need anyone. They hardly think what their country would be like without the businesses and job creations by foreign people, companies and investments from abroad. Ask yourselves first if the Africans will manage on their own. The Asians/Indians are an asset and without their hard work and entrepreneurship, your countries would not be where it is today. The Germans and the British would have left your countries bare and vulnerable same way they did to India. But india bounced back and same way because of Indians' strength and courage that you are enjoying the fruits of their labour. Racism runs in every culture including in the Africans. The young generation needs to be educated in the history of their country.

[@thegamekiller9736]

i am an indian from tanzania and you just cisited my fav resturant chowpatty i love their pizza and panner

[@petal8776]

I'm amazed by the way the Tanzania Hindu community is so friendly and welcoming. Keyan hindis are something else I mean most of them not all of them, but again you can't generalize everyone coz of one's experience. Kudos

[@dianamkita6571]

Karibu Tanzania Asma

[@fowziahassan7242]

I think they adapted to tanzanian culture because tanzanians are so friendly I have been to Tanzania 2016 and 2018 and I loved it

[@petal8776]

@@dianamkita6571 ni nyumbani dear asante

[@petal8776]

@@fowziahassan7242 true Tanzanians are very humble people and welcoming

[@mpendakiswahili3053]

Ukweli usemwe, Kenyan Indians are not friendly as Tanzanians, can't even speak Kiswahili...

[@rahulaggarwal7296]

Hats off man! You’re really exploring Dar es salaam and it’s deep cultures too!

[@sharpnish30]

There is a story about Vasco De Gama - who was helped by a Gujarati trader named Kanji Malam to head towards Indian shores. They met in Malindi in Kenya. This happened between 1497-99. As the Gujarati Gentleman described how his great-grandfather was brought in as a Sugar Laborer, however if you dig deeper the connection between Gujarat and East Africa goes centuries old. Also it was sheer luck for you to bump in to him, who perhaps was best person that day out in the streets to tell you about the community. We've had relatives who escaped Edi Amin and settled in different parts of the world. In my city Ahmedabad, we have two gated communities in the western and eastern part of the city that is named as Uganda Park. My Uncle had a house there, he passed few years back. They sold it off. We are from Nigeria. I studied and worked there. We are back in India but this love for Africa in us Gujaratis is old, very very old.

[@HA-rn2iu]

I was looking for a comment like this. I am so glad that you are back home. It would be so good if all members of the Indian community gradually move back to India, their motherland. Their motherland always will take them back with love.

[@loneexplorama7914]

All over the world, middle aged uncles, sent out on family chores are the best source of history and an enjoyable chat over a cup of tea or a pint of alcohol depending on the country😀😀

[@Debashis_4654]

right u are

[@Jay-gq3yk]

You must be Malayali. Our first question would be "rajyam evadaya"

[@sapandeepsharma]

@@Jay-gq3yk what does it mean?

[@uncleKas]

#middle aged uncle “ 😂😂😂😂

[@rockers3225]

@@sapandeepsharma means "where are you from?" (where's your city/town?)

[@indianfirst5526]

Proud to be Indian, Indian living across the world are very peaceful people they just gel with society so well and demand nothing 🙏🏻

[@varunmohandas6030]

Pinalla👍😊

[@shekhars6014]

Its a blessing to have Indians outside India...they will make the world around even more beautiful...hinduism is a way of life..adore it❤️

[@hk254lyt8]

No. They are very racist here in Kenya!

[@AliAhmed-ve5xl]

@@averyj5446 many indians speak Swahili

[@starscream1457]

@@hk254lyt8 indians are racist??? I am not sure i can believe u

[@cbhim2709]

There are people of Indian origin in many countries of the world. I am Indian origin, born in Guyana, South America and currently live in US for the past 35 years. We experience many challenges...racism,discrimination, bigotry. Yet, many of us have survived and succeeded by your diligence and hard work and adopted the customs and culture of our respective countries, and have done better than the natives. Sad..I can understand the hardship and struggles these people have experienced.

[@unkwm128]

thank goodness you chose to speak to the economist, very very interesting capsule of the history

[@nandakumara268]

The British East India company took Indians as indentured labourers to various colonies in African, the Carribbean, Fiji etc.. This story is nearly a century old. Although physically displaced from their mother land, their roots are still in India. Makes me feel proud and lucky to be born in India.

[@livingfinance]

They were not displaced, they chose to leave and when given the chance to return to India many didn’t want to go back.

[@romenhome5138]

@@livingfinance exactly.. many actually lied when british were looking for workers to build the railway in east africa. they just wanted to get out of india.

[@abdibarri9012]

IN SOUTH AFRICA INDAINS WERE SLAVES THATS TRUE HISTORY MANY INDIAN DONT LIKE AS WELL MANY ISLANDS INDIAN WERE SLAVE BRITISH SOLD I. 1700

[@govindakeshavdas]

@@romenhome5138yes the same India that the British turned into one of the poorest places on earth

[@Tino_Official_tz]

I was born and live here in Dar-es-salaam but I have never been in Indian temple. 😎😎 "asante sana kwa kutuonyesha yalivyo" I'm still leaning a lot from your videos. I real like the Indian economist for his participation he so informed 🔥🔥🔥

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Yeah I really appreciated that guy, very willing to share everything he knew

[@Tino_Official_tz]

@@SabbaticalTommy indeed. Keeping enjoy your time here. You're now a Tanzanian 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@simonpure109]

You will Never, in my 40 years of upanga the Lord would come!!! Am not calling it racism, it's called fukn racism

[@Tino_Official_tz]

@@simonpure109 I know that those Mr Simon sabbatical he is so lucky to get that opportunity

[@simonpure109]

@@Tino_Official_tz very very,and you absolutely Know why,!!! Almost team tagging mate😂😂😂

[@arvindgoudar1586]

Nice !! it was interesting that u meet a person who knows the history of Indians in Tanzania on a street corner. Perfect history of Indian settlers in Africa. I remember in the late 60's and 70's a lot of Gujarati's suffered because of nationalization and annexation of their assets in Africa. 👍

[@wellnaton6013]

Indians were just like Europeans during colonialism, they were second class so as long as Tanzania got independence they had to give what they wrongful accumulated

[@fineafrica7593]

They better go back to India and leave our Tanzania

[@s.koileken369]

I am from the region and happy to get a history lesson from the economist. Asante sana kwa kazi nzuri unayofanya.

[@pratham2333]

Fun Fact- Freddie Mercury's parents also moved to Tanzania from Gujarat,India. He came back to India to finish his schooling then they all migrated to UK.

[@Roger67164]

Him: pouring rice onto the bread. Me: NoOoOOo DoNt Do-

[@yusufb7804]

Love from Afghanistan 🇦🇫

[@kiran-yz8io]

Now where are u??? Hows afgan now??

[@levaithenofgods9215]

Nice one Thomas. I was raised in Tanga and for High School I went to a school called Popatlal which was run by some Indian Community if memory serves. At Popatlal is where I had a very good chance to make very good friend of Indian and Arabic decent and learned a bit of the culture and religions. That has served me very well now that I am married to Buddhist.

[@AkashDeep-dv2gq]

Oh We Indians 🇮🇳 are there everywhere. Jai Bole Baba 🕉🙏🏾😍

[@V59971]

What does baba mean?

[@denny414]

I wish your people treated us like we treat them

[@AkashDeep-dv2gq]

@@V59971 Baba means lord Shiva or very elderly or superior.

[@goobin9125]

@@denny414 true

[@influencerapocalypse1376]

@@denny414 bro we love black people

[@dayanandanvelangadpakam9815]

I was there from 2003 to 2008. I travelled length and breath of Tanzania. I miss Tanzania....now I live in west Indies.

[@webmace]

" BREATH " means " to in-take oxygen ..." ... Take notice of it.

[@lilylovely007]

@@webmace he missed a single letter “d”, breadth. I’m sure his intentions were correct.

[@webmace]

@@lilylovely007 Sure, He missed but I am vigilant. coincidently my mobile number ends with 007.

[@Django0324]

@@webmace weird flex, but ok

[@webmace]

@@Django0324 I say it is 'value-addition'.

[@meetmeinva]

I’m of Gujarati ethnicity (born and raised in America). My great grandfather’s brother and his descendants are in Dar es Salaam, and my great grandmothers siblings were there too. It’s the same way for us US born too - we are looked as foreigners both here in America and in India as well.

[@mohammadfomar825]

Thanks for this man ! Love your vlogs especially in TZ

[@L20241]

Gujarat is a state in the west coast of India so East Africa is pretty much “across the pond” so to speak. That’s possibly why many Indians there are Gujaratis.

[@crankshaft5867]

Not actually,they are present in far away Fiji and also western Africa,they like to migrate just like punjabis.

[@L20241]

I am aware of that. They are everywhere even USA etc. But I was referring just to why majority of East African Indians are Gujarati and not say Tamil( who are the majority Indians in Malaysia/Singapore). So west coast of India is pretty close to East Africa.

[@crankshaft5867]

@@plum_loco major port was kolkata,which carried people from bihar UP to as far away as Fiji and surinam,Guyana,Trinidad.

[@Sthmohtwenty]

Yes loads in UK

[@Sthmohtwenty]

@@crankshaft5867 yes one side of my g/patents fro Bihar...love from gt guyana

[@lilro3582]

My childhood was spent in Tanzania back in the 70s and I clearly remember visiting the Shiva temple every Friday evening with my parents. Wow, I even remember the large tree on the far right of the video frame. Asante sana for bringing back my best memories! Love Dar and love Tanzania.

[@josephsamwel8145]

this is the best video u have uploaded so far ...keep going brother

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Wow thanks, I'm glad you guys find this interesting

[@笨蛋-p9b]

Looks like these Gujarati people living there were so disciplined compared to India to be frank...happy that our Indians were leading good life in other parts of the world..

[@tarini.padmanabhuni]

AYY TELUGU!

[@themintleaf1778]

As an E. African now living in NYC, I am amazed that you never went to any Indian restaurants in NYC where they are in abundance. You had no clue how to eat Indian food from the thali you ordered. As you said there are more Indians in NYC than in Dar but obviously you had no interaction with any. Sorry waitress was no help but You never put rice on chapati bread which you did. Your conversation in the shop with that lady made me laugh so hard. I enjoyed this vlog. You went as a tourist in this pandemic is amazing. The Economist gave a wonderful history lesson so you were lucky to bump into him.

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Haha yeah despite my world travels I've just never had much experience with India or Indian food. Hoping to change that

[@themintleaf1778]

@@SabbaticalTommy Tommy, I wish you were live I would have guided you to eat that food. Traditionally you eat chapati/bread with all the curries and then eat rice with lentil soup at the end. They served eggplant curry and lentils in different forms. You should have removed rice bowl from the plate so you had room to eat. Waitress was no help. Yogurt is a given in our diet. Lentils and yogurt are protein substitute instead of meat. Did you like/enjoy the taste of that food? When you get back to NYC, let me know I can introduce you to some nice Indian Restaurants if you are interested. I am enjoying your vlogs of E. Africa immensely.It is nostalgic for me.

[@edwardmclaughlin7935]

Once again, so very enlightening. Great work, thanks.

[@kaydimarco2802]

Very interesting and interactive conversation with the fellow Indian/Tanzanian economist. The Indian food looks delicious. I think the bread is called naan.

[@machinefannatic99]

No the bread is called chapati

[@kaydimarco2802]

@@machinefannatic99 oh good to know. What’s the difference between the two?

[@machinefannatic99]

Kay Dimarco quite a difference in how it tastes and how its prepaired. I think chapati is more denser and better tasting, its why in eadt africa we eat chapati for break fast lunch dinner. Anyhow

[@kaydimarco2802]

@@machinefannatic99 sounds delicious!

[@rohitkhosla8110]

That particular bread was chapati...(wheat flour)... naan is made from maida ...what you use for baking

[@wingsoflotus]

It's amazing how the people there are literally walking history.

[@MalluStyleMultiMedia]

Rice and Chappathi (the Indian tortilla 😀) are part of the thali menu .. at home, we usually have either rice or chappathi, but not both. But if both are available, you don’t eat the chappathi and rice together. You have to eat them individually. For example, the rice with its curries and the chappathi with its curries. Next time, try masala dosa with sambar and vada. And a madras filter coffee. 😋

[@mrvan3491]

As a Fourth generation South African Indian Their story sounds quite similar to our story

[@starscream1457]

Hello brother, i am from india

[@mrvan3491]

@@starscream1457 hello, where about in India

[@mrvan3491]

@Priya K for me personally I don't feel like I have no identity We identify as South African Indians And no black person can challenge me about that We fought for the same freedom that we all enjoy today So personally I would say that South African Indians are very entrenched in the South African culture We number around 2million in a population of 60 million And we've been in this country for over 160 years So my answer is No I don't think South African Indians feel like they have no identity

[@umojapress2857]

@@plum_loco No they didn't. Only native kenyans fought the british.

[@TheGracehew]

What are the chances of meeting an economist on the streets of a Tanzanian Indian community! ….a Great show as always to give us a better understanding of the Indian diaspora in different parts of Africa ~ Thanks!

[@tc4906]

The 'sugar labourers' were also known as a 'bonded labourers' but moreso documented as 'Indentured Servants' by the British. Their compliance was likened to subserviency.

[@joedias7946]

The Indians brought to East Africa had no experience of Sugarcane or bond with it. Instead the building of the Railways for the British was a Harrowing experience for the Labourers. About 38 Indians a month were killed by lions.This are accounts given by British authorities building the Railways ,Some Englishman has written a book on this matter. Man-eaters of tsvao

[@susangomes9373]

The Economist you meet was a real gem.

[@SabbaticalTommy]

If you're in the area definitely try the food. Maybe even buy a wedding dress

[@kevinfred2885]

My CIA friend nice video

[@SabbaticalTommy]

@@kevinfred2885 Shh

[@rksingh9186]

CIA guys would know how to eat Thali.

[@supraja125]

Nice vlog tommy :) ahh! I feel so nostalgic looking at it. I'm a south Indian who's lived in Dar for good 6 years of my life. That plate of delicacies that you've eaten is known as a thali. Rice is a staple for us Indians, especially South Indians.Also, not all south Indians are vegetairians :P ( I'm one though). Though the major chunk of Indians you find in Dar hail from Gujarat, there are others like Telugu and Tamil speaking communities as well :)& many more. I would definitely want to visit Tanzania again some day :D cheers!

[@supraja125]

oh, I totally forgot..the drink that you've had is called Lassi ( made from yogurt) & NO you don't eat rice and chapati that way..you made a burrito outta it :P

[@ioanasilviag]

my parents eat bread with anything: potato, rice etc😂 we’re romanians😂

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Who knew that this was a global phenomenon!

[@ioanasilviag]

@@SabbaticalTommy I don’t get it either. some people just like bread too much😂

[@Sinasongway]

Romas are the real Indians and their exodus dates back to more than 1000 years. They are in Romania, throughout Europe and recently I understood they are there even in Ukraine.

[@Sinasongway]

@Victor Victor Ignorance is not a crime. Your information is not right. India was big country and it's boundaries extended to Afghanistan and the country was known as Bharath. Yes, india was born as a country in 1947. And our genealogy has nothing to Australoids. The real indians are the dark skinned Dravidians and they are still there in the south Indian states. But the north indians.are a mix of Aryans and indians. The Indians, you see in America before the arrival of Columbus are east Indians. If you know the history of Indian exodus during the regime of the British in India you will now how are they scattered all around the world. Otherwise ask a historian about it.

[@Sinasongway]

@Victor Victor You can generalise but in the case of the present day north Indians. Sanskrit is supposed to be the language of the Devas or Gods as per Hinduism and its mythology and and all the vedas are written in Sanskrit. But long before that Tamil was written and spoken and the Dravidians existed. These history of these mixing up are relevant only in the north and not in the south.

[@kelvinmbelekwa1219]

it's very nice when Westerners show the beautiful side of Africa...

[@rajnikantchande2677]

@@annavaileth9237 I disagree with you. ...all he ( Sabbatical) is trying to do is to present a balanced profile of Tanzania's ethnic diversity. I'm sure if you were visiting USA & your video focused only on white Americans & completely ignored African Americans, you would not be appreciated by African Americans.

[@Jay-gq3yk]

@@rajnikantchande2677 Absolutely. I think it is an excellent video too.

[@AshokKumar-bank]

It is a pleasant surprise to see the Indian origin peoples in Tanzania.. Thank U for showing this community

[@mr07623445678]

Thank you, as a London born Gujarati, this was fascinating to watch. 🙏🏽

[@srivenkat3142]

Here is the sequence of food out of the plate full of cups you were served 1. Sambar and rice with solid veg as side 2. Rasam with rice side dish veg / papad / kootu ( not sure if it was served). Rasam helps digestion 3. Moor ( the cup u had the straw for drinking) with rice and pickle as side dish. 4. Roti with Daal. 5. Desert the sweet. 6. If ur still hungry, u can hv lassi ( mix of ice, curd, sugar and a flavor ) Generally I can’t eat that much. The first three are South Indian. But what you had is probably a fraction of side dishes, there are a lot more 😀 Thanks for the video 🙏

[@jessicagomez8775]

Yummy!

[@lunchtime2960]

This is great work bro. Thanks

[@romanussaal712]

Indians and Bantus are historical couzins....

[@GeneralHensaleey]

The economist was a agreat historian

[@zedgee6198]

Man the "We don't have an identity" comment hit a chord for me. I'm like the 4th generation of Konkani Indians born in Tanzania. I am a Tanzanian and so very proud of that! When I was in Malaysia, and now Cyprus, people got and still get baffled when I tell them I'm from Zanzibar, with the most common reply being "But you're not black..?" Tbh it's cool sometimes especially when I speak swahili and they leave their mouths hanging open XD Let me tell you one thing though. We Tanzanian Indians face racism almost on a daily basis. People make fun of us from early school days to old age. Another shitty thing is that even when we travel to India, the locals look at us weird. We stand out. So trust me when I say it sucks being a Tanzanian Indian. You aren't truly accepted anywhere. You don't belong to either side no matter how much you want to. Ila again, at the end of day, I am Tanzanian and proud. I love our culture, history and everything else

[@zedgee6198]

I agree with you that yes, it is just a language and can be learned, but it's not something very common. I'm guessing it's the fluency that surprises them? Nigeria for example doesn't have a white population, and even if it does, probably a very small number.

[@Jay-gq3yk]

You shouldn't allow yourself to get bothered by being in a minority community. Indians (and I'm certain other races feel the same) are minorities in many parts of the world that they call home, e.g. Tanzania, the West Indies, France, U.K., Guyana, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. In some countries they are better assimilated, especially if they are wealthier, whereas in many others they face discrimination of all sorts. But whether 1st or tenth generation, we have maintained our cultural identity so that India will always be our spiritual home no matter which passport we carry. Let's keep our chin up and show the world the true qualities of our eternal phiosophy, love for everyone regardless of their origin or belief, respect for all forms of life, hard work, thrift, respect for our elders and so on. No one will continue to detest you if you show them kindness.

[@zedgee6198]

I appreciate your comment Jay! Thank you :)

[@Anonymous-kw4jf]

We love you. Race / color not a problem

[@zedgee6198]

One love mate ❤✌🏼

[@MrSanjeevakarunakar]

The Chapti / Roti is eaten with the dal and Baingan (Brinjal).. Rice is eaten with the Sambhar and Rasam and vegetables. The Thali served to you was a mix of both North and south India..

[@surendersingal2192]

I loved your interview with Tanzanuan indian, who was very open in explaining in derail his past. Thank you to you for digging deeper.

[@raymanmufasa]

Wow the interview with the Economist was insightful, I didn't even know all of that!

[@cbhushanji]

I have been to Tanzania ... really refreshing seeing all those sights again ...thanks brother

[@jamalahmed7057]

I have been living Tanzania for all my child hood around eighteen years but during my primary school and sec we had always mix Indians pupils we never had problems with their community but one Indians they don't like marriage other races

[@Aloksharma-oe1gm]

is it important to marry other races , we don't even marry from other caste and you are complaining about interracial marriage

[@kumarsa108]

My mother is Indian origin Sikh. she was born in Tabora, Tanzania. Her father was the carpenter who built the Livingstone Memorial.

[@flourishing_wilderness6072]

As a Tanzanian the nationalization the main reason leading east African indians abroad. Growing up there used to be many indians as i lived in the urban (all urban shops belonged to the indians, schools, ) but that number tends to decline since the younger ones are seeking for greener pastures and the negative effects of nationalization. Most old indians who have remained have their children in Europe. That interview was precise

[@TakashiNippon]

I lived in Kisutu when i was young, its so nice place in Dar es salaam right in the middle of the city. Indians have been here for a long long time as traders since 1800s, for years they have helped build country up and developed it. The reason why indians are from Gujarat, coz that Indians there used to be traders, to find more opportunity they moved to East Africa, some even married local africans. They sad thing is, the local African government nationalized their homes and business.

[@theblackpearl7035]

Think from a perspective of a Native Black Tanzanian in 1960s. They weren't afforded any opportunities to study or do businesses in their own country during colonialism. And then boom! they were granted their independence, and guess what? All upper class people were Indians, and the then Indians were very very racists. If nationalisation was not done, then Indigenous Black Tanzanias were going to be second class citizens in their own country. It was sad for Indians but It needed to be done

[@kudraally6492]

Great video as always.

[@FlatDerrick]

Brit here...we know our Indian food. Thali basically means 'full meal' and is supposed to feature a variety (usually 6 to make it a proper thali) of different things, it was traditionally the rich mans meal and was started by royalty who would get offerings from each different local producer, hence the bread and rice. Some high class places serve up the bread first and the rice later.

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Little did I know I was eating a rich man's meal. Life's little pleasures. Thanks for the explanation

[@vaibhav3946]

Sorry, that's not true. Thali wasn't a thing in most parts of India because it is hindi word for platter and except in 4-5 states, other don't speak Hindi. Thali became popular in just last 20 years because it is generally homecooked style hot and fresh food which cost anywhere between 50 cents to 100 dollars. In usual Indian style, people serve the food such as curry or daal in large bowls . If one man goes to restaurant and orders 3-4 dishes that he eat everyday then more than half of it will go waste. So people started to serve all those dishes in a small portion (which may not look small for many foreigners) and introduced typical indian style of serving which gave a 'feel at home factor' and affordability. Nowadays even non hindi speaking states use the term thali. That rich man's meal is chappan bhog which is completely different and truly rich man's food. It has 56 means chappan items which is more of a food eating challenge.

[@ryr1984]

Wrong facts told. It was not a rich dish but Vedic way of eating. Where a veg meal will include all varieties of taste, sweet, sour, bitter, spicy and considered to be complete meal scientifically as it contains proteins, and other nutritional elements in that thali

[@tamilmission7406]

Loved this Video, Love and thanks from Tamil Nadu, South India

[@historybydrindradeosinghia6511]

Welcome from lucknow India , Regards Dr indra deo singh

[@1rogerlal]

I’m Gujarati living in Texas , thanks for sharing , very interesting 🙏

[@highland96]

Nice to see someone take a look at the Indian side of Tanzania. I recommend going to the Sikh temple In Dar es Salaam and get yourself some free food

[@SabbaticalTommy]

Ah I have to check that out, especially if there's free food

[@highland96]

@@SabbaticalTommy Definitely, would love to see a video on it. Maybe travel to places near Dar es Salaam like Morogoro. Tanzania isn't high tech as other countries but it has this appeal that draws you in.

[@dayalasingh5853]

Woah I'm Sikh and didn't know there was a gurdwara there! That's pretty cool.

[@dayalasingh5853]

@@SabbaticalTommy yeah all Sikh temples should have free food, it's one of the most important parts of our religion.

[@JoeMeRz2185]

Would love to see some content of the gem and diamond mines of Tanzania.

[@goldenretriever6261]

My best friend growing up in Canada in the 80s what an Indian kid from Tanzania.

[@anujmchitale]

An Indian here to explain the concept of thali: 1. The shortbread (roti) is generally 1st or the 2nd course of the full meal. And the rice is generally the penultimate course, if there's some desert. If there's no desert, then rice + a thinner curry (sambar or rassam) would be the last course. 2. The shortbread is eaten with thicker curries that have vegetables or meat in it or the drier vegetable/ meat preparations. 3. Some of the individual dishes that the server mentioned- 1]. Rassam: The spiciest of the thin curries. Generally consumed like a soup or along with rice or fried doughballs called "vada". 2] Sambar: Cosiderably spicy but mild, as compared to rassam. It's generaly mixed with boiled rice and consumed. Indian cuisines in general do not consume rice without mixing in some curry. 3] Baingan(Eggplant) curry: This would generally be consumed with the shortbread(roti). 4] Jeeera Aloo (Direct translation- Cumin potato): This would also be preferred to be eaten with the roti, but it's role is not so fixed. Can be mixed in with the rice as well. 5] Dal: The mildest curry prepared from pounding the pulses. Adding specific spices to this dal, would make it into a sambar! Mostly consumed with boiled rice. Other dishes that I saw in the video: 6] A bowl of yogurt. 7] Sheera: A sweet dish prepared from flour + sugar. The dark orange/ brown, fudgy stuff. I think that's what it was.

[@Sinasongway]

Please understand that there are thalis of north indian and south indian origin. The concept of indian bread is more associated with North Indian thali. If you eat thali from south Indian states you hardly get any breads. Why is it called small bread? There are n number of breads in India. It goes like roti, chappathi,dhulka, naan, kulcha, paratha etc. Then comes dosa, paratha, appam etc. Roti eaten first and followed by rice. There is no hard and fast rules that one should eat roti thick curries. You can have it with thick or thin curries or gravies or even dry vegetables. I saw many times people eating roti wit pickles only during train journeys.

[@anujmchitale]

@@Sinasongway Good elaboration. Yeah, I don't follow the general guidelines either. 😁 But generally, the roti/ naan etc cannot absorb the liquid as good as rice or idli. Hence, the shortbreads go well with thicker curries. They are called "short breads" because of the time it takes to cook, as compared to the usual bread that Europeans/ Americans may consume. That one takes lot more of the baking time. While roti/ chapati/ naan cook quite fast. Dosa, appam might be closer to the definition of a "pancake". Indian pancakes. 😀

[@altrd4431]

Really enjoyed this video.. the gentlemen explained the explicit truth that apparently nobody wants to talk about!

[@rasmiranjan111]

Very soothing to watch this video. As an Indian,I appreciate your love for Indian foods.

[@deepapatel5059]

Hey man ..this is the way we eat thali...first we eat our bread that's roti and sabji...followed by dal / rasam/ sambar and rice ( complementary foods . .light on stomach)..this followed by buttermilk/ yogurt for digestion!

[@computertesting6110]

Eh I wouldn't consider rice to be complimentary

[@ricvibesinc1]

The butter milk is usually known as lassie..

[@ost2790]

6:08 beautiful mandir ❤

[@ashasieunarine138]

Hi, your video is very interesting, wow, had no idea Indians lived there and have shops and beautiful temples also. We in Trinidad have almost the same history of our ancestors coming to work here in the sugar cane fields. Thanks!

[@manerammaharaj837]

I wish if he visits sweet Trinidad and Tobago and he would see that indians here are trinidadians first second and last and we do not distinguish ourselves as indians or negroes.

[@DHAVALPATEL-bp6hv]

Dear Mr. Sabbatical !!! I accidentally saw your videos. First one was when you were searching for the banana beer in romba !!! Ans this one. I just love your videos.

[@MalluStyleMultiMedia]

It’s just that particular restaurant happened to be vegetarian. Not all South Indian or North Indian restaurants are vegetarian. We have too many cultures in India and even we don’t understand them all 😂😂.

[@slimturnpike]

True. The latest surveys in India report that only around 25 percent of India claims to be vegetarian or vegan.

[@bbm260]

@@slimturnpike 25 percent. It can't be true. As per data pure are 31%, occasional are 8%, who follows day and festive occasions are 38%, and rest are regular meat eaters.

[@slimturnpike]

@@bbm260 Totally depends on your source. You're welcome to yours, and I'll stand by mine.

[@tenton459]

The point is apart from "all vegetarian" communities and individuals, per capita consumption of meat is low in many parts I.e. largely vegetarian. But it's changing with eggs and chicken becoming more affordable.

[@slimturnpike]

@@bbm260 The most recent report I could find said 26 percent claimed to be vegetarian or vegan. I misquoted at 25. You aren't vegetarian if you occasionally eat meat.

[@invincible6411]

Oh man, wish I was with you at the restaurant... I could helped you with the combination and how to eat... Love from South India

[@edwintouches]

Nice content, nimependa! 👍

[@manojchittayil3326]

having spent 7 years in dsm ..these streets bring back so many memories..the final video was taken in the building which has anisuma and qatar near kisutu or temple street

[@iranpersianzoroastrismus3646]

I am originally Iranian and I did not think Tanzania would have good people and be safe I hope I can travel there

[@thomasmosesmganga2552]

We do have baluchi or bulushi community a big one even kenya mombasa city from border of iran and Pakistan majority are business men and women you will find names like alblooshi,

[@thomasmosesmganga2552]

Visit

[@karthala6676]

Good people and bad people are found everywhere.

[@keepitreal888-gnc]

Iran Persian Zoroastrismus, You didn't think Tanzania has good people. That's an insult to Africans. You better stay in Iran; don't come to Africa.

[@augustuss4503]

Stay in your country Iran, don't come to Tanzania or Africa

[@Shalamar-TV]

thanks a lot for the video // I'm Indian , born in Tanzania Grew Up in Zambia and now in California// The Economist gave an accurate account of the events in the 60's & 70's // Hopefully i wish one day to visit Tanzania .

[@successr1617]

Waaaooow your really exploring Tanzania Ilove it

[@bishoptoothpaste1858]

Tanzania is a mystery to me .. my grandfather along with my mom n siblings spent many years there in 1980s before they returned to India . And growing up I've heard many stories about their time there . But I've never even bothered to know anything about Tanzania .

[@mokijr1099]

Very Interesting video

[@sajsan4763]

Pretty amazing footage; i remember this area well 40 yrs back. nothing much changed except for a lot of new buildings.

[@txguin]

start with bread ..deep in all curries and after you done with bread add daal in rice or curry with rice

[@rohitarora4923]

Freddie Mercury (Farrokh Bulsara) immigrated from Gujarat to Tanzania. And then his family loved to the U.K. and became the vocalist for The Queen. Late to this video and thought of sharing this in relation to the video

[@m.scottnewman994]

Holy cow you need to be introduced to Indian food by a friend who knows. It’s the most amazing food in the world if you know what is possible.

[@paschalbenito9783]

I think this Guy, is better than drew binsky, kwenye kuitangaza Tanzania, and africa kwa ujumla,, good bro keep it Up

[@PicklesBBQandCooking]

It’s been over two years since this video came out. I decided to drink for every OK. I’ve just now finished watching after two years of blacking out. Finally success! On the downside my family left me and I am now an alcoholic. Awesome video! 🍻