Mega Evolution VS Gigantamax

So it’s been just about half a year since Sword and Shield have come out and it definitely seems like the community has mostly healed from the National Dex controversy. I mean take a look at these sales. In just about 4 and a half months they managed to sell almost 17 and a half million copies and just might be on their way to becoming the 2nd best selling games in the series. That of course doesn’t mean the games are without their drawbacks but it does seem to me that at the end of the day Pokemon fans still wanted to play the next generation of games and enjoyed them for what they were. In Galar, the likes of Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves were shelved to make room for the ability to enlarge your Pokemon and, in some cases, change how they look. This got me thinking, which of these two mechanics are actually better? Today I’m putting Mega Evolution and the Dynamax / Gigantamax phenomenon up against each other and see which one comes out on top. I want to note that a lot of this video will be based on my personal opinions of the two mechanics however there will be some analytical information as well to back up my personal feelings. Anyways, with that being said let’s hop right into this clash of titans.
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[@jediclonekag13]

I am for Mega Evolutions all the way.

[@classic9615]

Me to

[@supergreninja9245]

Same

[@sleepyguy6201]

All of us

[@x-rax716]

Same

[@adityasuryavanshi2823]

Same

[@kristofgriffin384]

Before the lore behind Sword and Shield was revealed, I speculated on what the origin of Dynamax/Gigantamax was, and why there was no Mega Evolution in the region. My theory was that Galar was the region that Kalos fought against during the great war and had become rivals ever since. This is supposed to mirror the same rivalry their real-life counterparts had. Due to the fact that Mega Evolution originated in Kalos, the people of Galar wanted nothing to do with it. As a result, they instead used Eternatus' energy to create Dynamax/Gigantamax as their region's way of powering-up their Pokemon, and to rival Megas. It's a shame they didn't go with this route because it would at least make sense lore-wise as to why there is no Mega Evolution in Galar and why they developed Dynamax and Gigantamax.

[@thebestworst8002]

yeah there is so much missed potential

[@gadobriel5417]

Is not it easier to think that the Ultimate Weapon never blasted 3000 years ago in the SwSh reality and this is why the Mega Evolution doesn't exist in this timeline?

[@thebestworst8002]

Yeah they just put it in the non mega timeline

[@jordmanbatgod]

Gado número #1 do En the whole “alternate reality” thing seems like such a cop out to me

[@supersonicsandshrew9742]

That would be sick and a competive meta with megas and dynamax with no z moves could be intresting

[@dom1941]

I do wish that they would just keep adding more new Mega Evolutions every generation instead of adding different gimmicks.

[@pumapandora1310]

Dom 19 but I think that it would be better if mega evolutions were kind of rare, like if they’d give every Pokémon a mega evolution that would be kind of lame but 46 Pokémon from 6 Generations? That’s better.

[@rotem6033]

But there are almost no mega evolutions from gen 6 and 5

[@kenzihenderson5258]

I agree. New mechanics every game will get exhaustive very quickly. Every time they add a new mechanic they also have to create a certain number of pokemon on that roster every time they do a new special exclusive thing. If they had just kept megas they could have a controlled limit on new megas to still make them feel rare because they already met that original quota so it wouldn't have to be a whole huge group of new megas per game. It would also create more consistency throughout the games. At least when they added z moves megas did still exist, now they're trying to replace mechanics entirely

[@xsasukex8298]

i think it's unfair to give mega evolution to some and than others can't be used in online battle they just become trash

[@pumapandora1310]

@@xsasukex8298 well this is partially true because some Pokémon (with megas or without) can be countered easily by the meta game and they just drop into a tier where it's easier for them

[@FallenHerotic]

I’d probably say lore and design wise, mega evolution is the most thought out. Dynamax is interesting as it allows you to use whatever Pokémon you like but the story doesn’t go far enough to explain the phenomenon.

[@shreym03]

To counter your point a bit. Even though mega evolutions and to extent Primal reversions had an interesting lore for sure. What mega evolution lacked was usability in-game. Only 3 trainers use Megas in X and Y. whereas Gigantamax is heavily used after the gym 3. So to me, Gigantamax was more impactful than mega evolutions, story wise.

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

@Shrey Mathur The amount of NPCs that used dynamax doesn't impact anything. We didn't have to use dynamax Pokemon to begin with and it wasn't mandatory during the outbreak and battle against Eternatus. You got to admit both XY and Sword and Shield had so much potential that went to waste because they're rushed and weren't thought out properly story wise.

[@jfb173jb]

Yeah but as a whole mega evolutions are a bit more harmful and evil compared to gigantamax. If you read the dex entries you see what I mean

[@shreym03]

ElectroBlastLuigi XY story may have felt flat but Sword and Shield did a real good job with it’s job. It always felt weird to see a child doing an adults job in the Pokemon world. This one felt slightly sensible where adults and kids work together. And at least SwordShield tried to balance out the use of Dynamax usage throughout the game while only an exclusive few could use megas Story standpoint Dynamax seems to hold more weight than megas did. If they only had a Z version to rectify this. I would have a different stance on Megas

[@AuraStrikeAce]

@@jfb173jb A theory that could explain those Dex entries is that's what happens when the bond between the trainer and the Pokémon isn't strong enough and the Pokémon loses control or if they stay Mega Evolved too long. Take Lucario for instance. It says it's battle style is described as heartless. Now look at the anime, where Korrina's Lucario first Mega Evolved. It does fit that description given by the entry. But as we all know, Korrina's bond with Lucario was eventually able to get through and allowed him to come back to his sense and regain control, and from then on, Lucario never lost control like that again, therefore, not mirroring that specific Pokédex entry anymore. Again, showing us why the bond between the trainer and Pokémon is important. Because otherwise, they lose control and go berserk, like Korrina's Lucario did at first.

[@michealthomas-spink3480]

Imagine dynamaxing a mega then using a z-move... now that's alot of damage!

[@ArtemisWasHere]

*ascension*

[@chriswentz5197]

"He is beginning to believe"

[@grmp1992]

The poor pokemon that would recieve that would be reduced to atoms

[@ammarabbas5153]

Get a mega charizard x gigantamax it and use a z move

[@sanariyadilman1114]

mega, gigantmaxing and then using a z move

[@Gaurang_Karande]

Yeah that's why Dynamaxing and Gigantamaxing was banned in Smogon singles

[@vaporterra]

Not random battles though so that RNG fest has another wrench thrown into it lol

[@N12015]

And in doubles, and in Ubers with another uber. Seriously, i CANNOT understand wolfey at all. Pokemon is an AWFUL competitive game who is ruining his main strenght (being a good RPG), to become a competitive one without removing a key factor to become a E-sport in the first place (crazy randomness). PS: That's what i think in 7:23 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ-Ydmqcmq97rZI

[@robertewing9722]

@@N12015 as much as there is crazy randomness in pokemon battles I rather like it because to me its kinda like playing chess having to think out moves and steps ahead of time. But yeah the randomness can kinda ruin your time but its sometimes in your favor and sometimes not.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

@@robertewing9722 RNG in general is annoying to deal with. When a good roll can swing the entire match in your favor or an unfavorable roll can do the opposite and completely screw you over by causing the wrong thing to happen when you need it to least, it can really feel like it takes the skill out of winning a match. It's stuff like this that there's an evasion clause in smogon singles; while it's impossible to remove RNG as a factor from battles completely, no one like dealing with an opponent that relies on hax to win. I have certainly had my fair share of this screw me over as well (such as Jirachi flinching me with a drain punch because it was holding a king's rock), it is something that you have to try and account for as best as you can. There's no way for one team of Pokemon, no matter how well constructed, to prepare for every possible situation you could encounter, obviously, but things like that still have to be in the back of your mind since they can sometimes come up when you least expect them to, and this is why I think that it's so annoying for most people to deal with.

[@pedromonteiro2248]

Matthew Kuscienko lol As frustrating as can be, I think the RGN factor is that make Pokémon competitive so great and addicting! I think that mirrors some unfairness of the life! Sometimes you make everything right but didn’t win anyway....

[@emojifr...]

I perfer mega evolution because of the better designs [mega gengar and shiny mega garde], they last the whole battle and the pokemons abilites work [mega gengar shadow tag or mega alakazam trace for example].

[@seburibe470]

Me too

[@donathan2933]

Teruteru The Rice Cooker plus Mega Evolution can be used more often in battle

[@pumapandora1310]

True and (I don’t actually know but I think that it is like this) more Pokémon can dynamax/gigantamax and that makes it kind of lame because it’s just like “oh your Pikachu can dynamax? Well ok” but with mega “Oh fuck did your Garchomp just Mega evolve?!” (Yeah I know that it becomes slower) and yes the designs are awesome

[@pw2096]

Most mega forms are not as cool as the gigantamax forms.

[@vaporterra]

Do Nathan both mechanics can only be used once per battle but I’m guessing you mean since in game Dynamax requires a power spot

[@alainwolf146]

Mega Evolutions > D/G-Max anyday. Dynamax/Gigantomax as a concept just feels random and really bland.

[@3dsaulgoodman43]

It sucks that Gen 8 in Pokemon Showdown bans Mega Evolution. I used a Mega Gallade in OU and Anything Goes and it was so OP.

[@jumpyman9754]

Like another evolution is not random

[@MegaPokefan97]

All Pokémon are equal, but some are more equal than others

[@4skintim962]

Sobble well no one asked for dynamax . We were asking for gamefreak to buff underpowered Pokémon for years so they brought out megas. No one wanted dynamax

[@alphawolf7417]

@@4skintim962 i don't see why we can't just settle for both. I feel they both had their ups and downs. And concept wise i think it'd be pretty cool seeing Megas vs Gmax.

[@calijoca]

In my opinion: Megas are really cool in singles and in game because they offer some forgotten Pokes a new way to shine without being too overpowered. Dynamax is cool in doubles because of the many opinions for team building, giving each team a variety of choices when it comes to strategy. Of course there are expections like Mega Kangaskhan or Dynamax Togekiss which are really OP these are my two cents.

[@calijoca]

@SparkyMaster Gyarados was absoletly broken in OU, Excadrill was broken in BSS.

[@Psusanoo]

I once was one of those haters of Dyna/Giganta max forms in the beginning, but they all have there peaks.

[@eltornado7777]

I hope Gen 4 remakes will have Megas tho well nvm....

[@PoggusAmogus]

They wont and you know that

[@eveegirl2878]

I highly doubt it

[@donathan2933]

Coelhangelo bunny yeah cuz Pokémon sucks now

[@mariocruno3772]

Im almost sure we are getting gen 4 startes gygantamax

[@MJ-sy2en]

I say it's a 50/50

[@TheNart1234]

"Gigantamax wins the battle while Megas win the war." - MysticUmbreon 2020 Anyways for me, I prefer Mega Evolutions because it lasts longer in battles, Gigantamax only 3 turns whereas Megas have countless turns. Off-topic for a bit, I hope they will introduce Bond Phenomenon to starters in the future because it will most probably be the most powerful Pokemon in our playthroughs. Can I just say Charizard is overrated? Seriously 2 Megas and a Gigantamax form?

[@sleepyguy6201]

Charizard gets too much love

[@jolteade7577]

Emperor Absol well atleast the other gen 1 starters have megas and are getting a gmax form in the future but fr charizard gets way to much love

[@thatman666]

Charizard is pretty much a celebrity much like Pikachu, Eevee, Meowth. Not much on to stopping it.

[@adityasuryavanshi2823]

I mean it isnt all bad that charizard get that love and he gets that love because he is the second mascot for pokemon

[@kevingb6778]

Bs , what's wrong with 2 megas

[@poett8875]

Mega Evolution was the best generation “gimmick” they introduced. Ever since then they have gone downhill.

[@k2basior]

I feel a bit in different about Megas. I believe they switched the game a lot (together with fairy type introduction) but I'm not sure if for the better. I believe Megas should've been Reserved only for 3-part evo lines as half of the Megas Just seem to be something that should've been standard evolutions.

[@donathan2933]

Poett ! Fax ever since ORAS Pokémon gone downhill

[@laurasaldanagerrero9361]

@@donathan2933 well mega evolution made the game way to much easy and that a flaw that gen 6 game's had.

[@donathan2933]

Laura Saldaña gerrero that problem could be fixed if players were able to battle trainers with Pokémon that could Mega Evolve and actually did it

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Laura Saldaña gerrero i mean ageislash made x and y way easier then any mega did. Just use swords dance in shield form a few times then one shot everything with shadow sneak.

[@liliewaternights6073]

I actually like both mechanisms. For mega evolution, I love how the form changes and the stats rise. My favorite mega evolved pokemon is Lucario and Garchomp. For Gigantamax, I love how the form changes and the pokemon gains a special signature move. My favorite G-Max pokemon is Eevee, Toxtricity, Hattrene and Alcremie.

[@Hmmm777]

Mega lucario is so FREAKING COOOLLLL AHHHHH

[@liliewaternights6073]

@@Hmmm777 I know right. Lucario is my FAVORITE POKEMON.

[@falsered13]

I want to see more mega evolutions and less dynamax/gigantamax forms in the future

[@lucasclyde7424]

Me too

[@teezus2036]

They should really extend the mega evolution roster Instead they give us 🍆max 🤡

[@kannan07]

Same here

[@quranbooker5106]

Me three

[@mariochris7257]

Same

[@chaosbug7]

Mega > G-Max One has consequences and is a well thought out overall upgrade to Pokemon. The other is a gimmick that is heavily unbalanced that can be sprung anytime to either swing the momentum back in your favor or just steamroll your opposition for no real cost.

[@mockersjayparker813]

Both are gimicks dude.

[@Gemini-Lion]

@Mocker's Jay Parker Technically, yes. But Mega evolutions are typically seen as better, cooler, etc. Basically, Mega Evolutions have more potential than Dmax/Gmaxes.

[@stevenmartinez2530]

Right? The only problem with megas is how many op mons got them when they should primarily focus on powering up weaker ones

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Totally Toxic not really. Metagross honestly needed a buff ( it’s normal form as of gen 6 and 7 became the second worst pseudo better only then goodra after steel’s resistances got nerfed) giving it tough claws was a bit overkill though it should of gotten a basically meaningless ability. The only mons that were overkill to get a mega were raquaza ( who was starting to become outclassed by other legends so it needed some sort of improvement) mega latios and latias aren’t really worth the mega slot since their base forms aren’t improved enough to make them worth using as your mega. Mega x and mence are the only ones that should not exist ( mega y is only better on sets with taunt since lifeorb mewtwo outclassed mega y otherwise) Mence was already pretty good unlike metagross in gen 6. It didn’t need a buff. And it got a massive one.

[@tora4180]

Bruh, I can't tell which you're giving out about and which you're praising

[@ryanbrown4915]

Hey I really liked the video, although I do have some counterpoints I’d like to share. Your two main points for choosing Gigantimax over Mega Evolution were based on the aesthetics and the strategy behind Gigantimax. While aesthetic appeal is entirely subjective and everyone is free to have their opinions, I do think it is worth pointing out that Megas were only present on the 3DS’s limited hardware. Not only could the models of Megas be rendered in a higher quality, I also think it is worth pointing out that the size of Gigantimax Pokémon allows more detailing than originally possible on the 3DS. Generally Mega Pokémon don’t grow in size by too much of at all, but in Galar maybe Mega Pokémon grow big as well. Again though the looks of Gigantimax are entirely subjective to each person’s tastes. I do on the other hand think that Mega Pokémon were much better competitively. In your video you showed screenshots of 6 vs. 6 battles. While you can use Dynamax and a Gigantimax in 6 vs. 6, these forms are banned in all tiers in Smogon except Ubers. Megas were distributed through the tiers based on their respective power, but Dynamax Pokémon are just so strong that they are banned outright which really doesn’t seem like a competitive climate, having the central gimmick of this generation being banned from an entire format. I will concede though that do to the secondary effects from max moves, I think Dynamax is better in VGC, as status effects can weather conditions can lead to more interesting and new strategies. As you can probably tell, I do prefer mega evolution, although I would honesty just prefer that essential components of the game aren’t scrapped after each new installment. This is of course just my opinions though, and I’d like to thank you for the amazing content you make! Keep up the great work!

[@sawyermcdaniel6896]

This guy’s comment: mega Evos were only on 3DS games The Let’s go games: am I a joke to you?

[@RobloxGuardian]

That's long.

[@charlesfamilyfriendsfurret8976]

What an absolute chad, the Best guy here

[@jarrickhillery8664]

I like Megas a lot better if handled the right way. I think Mega Evolution should be limited to underused Pokemon like Lopunny, Beedrill, and Mawile. And Megas that are on powerful Pokémon shouldn’t necessarily be an upgrade but rather change the Pokémon’s play style. Garchomp is an example of this. I don’t think Megas like Salamence and Blaziken were good additions though. They only served to make Pokémon that were already very powerful even stronger.

[@YamatoFukkatsu]

Blaziken was especially infuriating because, at least at first, they gave one to it but not Sceptile and Swampert. Top that with the fact that it wasn't even available in XY normally (prior to ORAS, it was distributed through an event to entice early buyers), AND the fact that it's really little more than a buffed version of the already broken Hidden Ability Blaziken, it really leaves you to wonder: why? Why did they do that? Just to add insult to injury, they make Clemont's dad use one in the anime..... because god forbid the Electric Gym Leader's dad (who himself is knowledgeable in electronic appliances) show off the Mega form for that Ampharos which he just seems to carry around for the hell of it.

[@sawyermcdaniel6896]

My brain agrees but my heart disagrees

[@mawile3037]

Yes, me no get the screen time, or play time☹

[@davidegaruti2582]

I also looove how M alakazam is the only mega with 90 points added to it's base stats, because then it would become OP ... In the same gen that gave us M-kangaskan the pokemon equivalent to the queen in chess, M-mawile better known as sword dance is a cheap tactic to make weak pokemon stronger , And M-gengar , also known as " i could be the deadliest revenge killer in the game , but you should listen to me singing and comment about it " But yeah it was cool to see underrated pokemon become swole with just 100 stat points added and a good ability ...

[@Hmmm777]

@@mawile3037 I actually use mawile alot in competitive battling

[@ultragamer8816]

“It’s like mega evolution and Z moves had a baby” - Mystic, 2020

[@alperkeskin9644]

I love both. Mega Evolutions were better in competitive. But in game Gigantamax was better. Gigantamax made gyms and raids so interesting. I feel like Mega Evolution was really underused in gym battles.

[@TheZestyCar]

What do you mean by underused? In X and Y there was no restriction on using mega evolution thought the game. You can use it in all the major battles to obliterate the opponents Pokemon.

[@animejerk05]

But the opponent doesn’t use it so it’s boring

[@ironwill6148]

TheZestyCar I think he’s referring to the fact that you can only face up to maximum of 3 mega evolving Pokémon throughout the entirety of the gen 6 main campaign.

[@penggao7034]

Local Bus Driver yeah, and you had it after the 3rd gym, the first one you faced in a normal battle was after gym 7

[@avatardoom]

I wanna know why the gym leaders an e4 of kalos dont really use megas even though it was the gen that introduced it, but evey gym learder in galar gets to dynamax.

[@adambanks8469]

I like mega evolution more personally. It's the main reason why I like X and Y the most

[@rezaramadea7574]

What about ORAS?

[@moniikachuu]

I agree I like pokemon x and y the most for that reason too Ok uh bye-

[@c0mpu73rguy]

For a silly gimmick that broke the game?

[@moxie5793]

y is still probably my favorite for the character creation and megas alone

[@Mozilla_2]

@@c0mpu73rguy less game breaking than dynamaxing and gigantamaxing lol

[@J2ojuiced95]

I prefer Mega Evolution because it has a decent amount of lore behind it, D/G-Max lore is very weak in comparison.

[@agpoblador]

NO LIAR

[@AdPhDu1]

Personally, I prefer Mega Evolution over Gigantamx for one reason You have to catch a Gigantamax Pokemon during a Max Raid battle, which is pretty rare outside of events. Which means you can't uses them on your team unless you get lucky enough to find one. Well Megas you just need to find their stone and your good to go. That means you can uses them more easier.

[@agpoblador]

Why?its horrible

[@alphawolf7417]

Well Isle of armor changed that.

[@AdPhDu1]

@@alphawolf7417 That's true. I was able to Gigantamax my team. Still prefer Mega Evolution.

[@alphawolf7417]

@@AdPhDu1 i understand. For me if they could balance both of them I'd love to see both return in later titles. Also I'd love if more pokemon got Mega or Gmax forms.

[@promienodrzutowysamuel790]

Mega evos are awful because they're so easy to get and so powerful, while gmax puts balancing before availability and strengh

[@RobloxGuardian]

Mega Evolution is WAYYYY better!

[@DogPerson626]

I disagree

[@donathan2933]

RobloxGuardian I agree

[@theyogameti5198]

I agree

[@AuraStrikeAce]

I absolutely agree. I want my Mega Lucario back...

[@donathan2933]

Aura Strike448 I want my Mega Charizard X back. Fuck Sword and Shield!

[@sapphirezx315]

I prefer Megas to G-Max to be honest

[@rollingkirby]

I personally prefer megas,the designs are smoother and more creative(thou some gigantamax have some solid origins)they are competitively more balanced and I prefer the mega counterpart of the Pokémon who got both gigantamax and mega evolution

[@theattackontitanatrocity8858]

Mystic: I wish it was easier to get Gigantamax Pokémon Isle of armor: allow me to introduce myself

[@josh_adams_fit]

love how z moves arnt in this debate because there awful

[@jonnybravo595]

I forgot what Z moves were lol

[@Nosretep]

They're useful.

[@Nosretep]

@Roxie, The Poison Type Gym Leader. Z: Conversion,Topsy-Turvy,Hypnosis and ect. You don't need to nuke your foes.

[@nmbusklouds242]

@@Nosretep yeah but they were just not good, in comp they were just a mess and in nuzlockes they made some battles either really hard or piss easy since your you can play around them or you get fucked by them, at least with Megas they offered a stat boost and change of play style and you need to use dynamax/gygantamax at the right time to get use out of them, I just think they did better at the mid-battle power boost than z moves did

[@7swordquanta459]

Z-Moves are cool as a concept,but I really dont like the fact that I have to think which among my moves do I want to have a Z-move variant. I'd rather go with either Mega Evolution or Dynamaxing/Gigantamaxing since it allows for flexibility.

[@jacquis303]

i think they're both pretty interesting honestly

[@clayofbodom3880]

Gigantamax is ridiculous and out right stupid. Mega evolution was actually something interesting and not just big Pokémon the size of anime onyx.

[@vaporterra]

Me too

[@vaporterra]

Clay Of Bodom *Onix and you’re entitled to your opinion but so are we

[@tonytortaalbino2733]

I like both

[@Jai05]

Z moves: No one loves me 😭

[@RepyonDonGaming]

Mega Evos all the way, they need to come Back smh. Just allow the items in the game, so what.

[@griffwilson5932]

I absolutely LOVED the mega evolutions. Especially the shiny versions.

[@jesseallen3910]

Charizards gigantamax looks better than it's mega evolution Me: if you don't take that back I'm going to flip my desk

[@ultimatefirecracker1486]

It basically looks so bad and I find the overhyping Charizard movement annoying Charizard is like the second Pikachu mascot I guess sinds it’s able to get every new mechanic it should’ve been better if a Pokémon like Flygon or Dragonite would get something new even tho Dragonite is a busted Pokémon.

[@MaalwithaK]

Or give us dynamax, megas, and z moves and give them a rock, paper, scissors dynamic

[@hypercam4475]

I respect your opinion, but I feel like most of these gigantamax's could just be megas, or better super size megas since a lot of gigantamax's build their design off of being big

[@MandalorOrdo]

Machamp for example.

[@vam1385]

Think that the sudden disappearance of mega evos in swsh is just a blip on their timeline. I do not believe it is just gen 6’s “gimmick.” Megas have appeared in every game since xy and I think it would just be foolish for gamefreak to just get rid of them now. Megas in gen 7 weren’t focused on because gamefreak wanted people to try their new toy in z-moves and alolan Pokémon , but the choice of mega evolving your Pokémon was still available. Since gen 4 never had any sort of weird gimmick then Megas will be able to make their long awaited return, with some new forms. This is just my speculation however, and gamefreak could even have Megas return in the dlc, with the stones and mega ring being available in the crown tundra and the isle of armor

[@Error-gz3pp]

Ah, a Sinnoh Stan I see

[@lizziessbm]

The list of confirmed pokemon contains an unusually high number of pokemon that can mega evolve

[@amanofculture3498]

Lol nope👎. You had high hopes though......

[@ClaptonsWig]

What they should of done with mega evolutions was give it to Pokémon who ACTUALLY needed the boost. Easier way to say who did are those you consider NU/RU type of Pokémon who have nothing to offer besides just themself. Beedrill, Pidgeot, Mawile, Kanga are perfect candidates for boosting their potential and making them relevant. Why the hell Gamefreak thought Pseudo Legendary and Legendary needed them is stupid. Garchomp is a great example of this, he was useless and better without his Mega. Would of made things more interesting if they actually catered to some like Banette, Glalie, Houndoom who did receive Mega but were still useless with movepools, ability or typings. (Seriously how was Banette not Dark type and Houndoom gain a crap ability)

[@MrRios-fs4uz]

Well i think that the garchomp mega was a nice thing because it wasnt a straight upgrade but rther a sidegrade. I dont think that garchomp was a really bad mega it wasnt used in online battles because there were better megas like mawile. And even than it was occasionally used in sandstorm teams as a pure breaker. I think garchomp was a good mega because it brought more variety to garchomp without breaking that mon. there are better examples for strong pokemon getting an even stronger upgrade like salamence or gengar(especially with shadow tag).

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

I mean to be fair the only mons that didn’t need a mega due to already being good enough and got one that made them oppressive were mega x and salamence ( raquaza was starting to fall off in ubers so it needed a buff to compete with the rest of the legends the mega latios aren’t worth using mega y is worse then lifeorb mewtwo And metagross was hit super hard by the steel resistances getting nerfed and needed something to get out of ru so it needed a buff. The bigger issue is the abilities some of the megas have like metagross getting tough claws and mega raquaza losing its flying weaknesses and not needing a mega stone.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Solar power ain’t crap. Considering houndoom is all about one shotting the foes getting the solar power ability definitely was a buff. Now if you wanna take a look at a mon that actually got a worse ability look at mega Audino it lost the amazing regenerator for healer a ability that is doubles only and not even reliable in that format.

[@Hmmm777]

Do you know what's a good mega? Mega Charizard Y it's freaking op because of the ability

[@iankiethibesate802]

Coclusion: -use pokemons with high speed and attack for evading incoming enemy calls to counter gigantamax.

[@jaybrian9402]

Gigantimax is much more balanced than Mega-Evolution and even Z-moves were. I mean all attacking moves are buffed with the exceptions of ace moves. Moves that are not attacking ones tend to be the same thing; Max Guard. I would have made it where the different non-attack moves would just do something else rather than "Protect".

[@Royal-sd8eh]

I feel like for moves that change stats, the stats would be changed for twice as much. For status conditions, I feel like they could be more effective or more likely to activate. I.e paralyze having a better chance to be fully paralyzed, burn increasing damage taken by certain type attacks, poison reduces spc. Attack. Stuff like that

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

No just no. Megas you have to give your mon a mega stone you can’t just pull it out of your ass. Having a swift swim mon being able to set their own rain by attacking is absurdly broken and preventing your moves from being locked up by choice items and encore is just straight up bs. If you know that mon has a choice item before dmax you know that they will be locked into that move. Same if you encore them. This opens up strategies like using a prankster encore mon to disable set up sweepers. That just ain’t a thing in a meta that allows this feature.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Basically just dmax mantine every game. It’s bulky enough to make great use of the doubled hp and it benefits from setting its own rain a lot because of swift swim and stab hurricane.

[@DRA767]

I prefer mega evolution. I think it can be more game changing in a match because it changes the typing and abilities of some pokemon so they might now survive a move that would normally been a ko. I also prefer it because you can use it anytime in game.

[@mattattack21]

Gamefreak can definitely thank covid a bit for some of those sales numbers.

[@ragnarokdoughnut]

What I’m hearing is that megas are like anime protagonists

[@MegaPokefan97]

Dynamax appeals to communists.

[@GoldRanger1]

G max is basically the combo of megas and z moves. If megas lasted 3 turns then they prolly would have kept them around.

[@JOCoStudio1]

I feel like adjusting the mega mechanic to just last a limited number of turns would have been a better solution. Gigantamax forms look much more ugly, but I guess that's just my opinion.

[@GoldRanger1]

JO Co nah bro you’re definitely spot on with the ugly part

[@alphawolf7417]

@@JOCoStudio1 why you hating on my girls Hatterene and Alcremie?

[@JOCoStudio1]

@@alphawolf7417 coulda been reworked into megas, the shear size isn't the main draw.

[@alphawolf7417]

@@JOCoStudio1 is the size really the only thing bugging you here???

[@thelagnificentleader]

I much prefer Megas. Something you need to realize that Pokémon who didn’t get any attention (such as Sableye and Kanghaskhan, like you said in the video) suddenly were incredible… while only Gen 1 and 8 got significant G-Maxes (before you tell me that Garbodor got one, I said *significant* G-Maxes. That, and Garbodor is the only Pokémon between Gens 1 and 8 to get a G-Max). So while G-Max may be better in some aspects, Mega absolutely reigns supreme in making bad Pokémon amazing.

[@DogPerson626]

Gigantimax is mega evolution + z-moves. Change my mind

[@diranvb3155]

How? (nvm)

[@seburibe470]

This man spitting facts

[@frankdijkhuis7038]

It's not mega evolution, they may change forms but stats stay the same

[@kaischwarz6590]

but worse

[@trent800]

@@frankdijkhuis7038 except double hp makes up for it

[@h0shikoga261]

WE GOT SHIRTS ON SALE

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

To be fair some megas you don’t wanna mega right away. These have to do with their abilities. Some possible examples is if you can get a kill without megaing sharpedo it’s better not to for plus 1 speed from speed boost using megas that have an ability that sets weather when weather runs out to set it up again and getting a attack boost off normal heracross and normal pinsir’s hidden ability moxie. Also swift swim dmaxs are just bullshit. Just casually hit for a large chunk of damage and double your speed for free.

[@YaraUwU]

My biggest problem with mega evolution is the fact you have to find the mega stone for it every game which can lock a mega pokemon you want to use in a playthrough till after the elite four (Gardevoir in XY and ORAS and Mawile in XY) . While with gigantamaxing and the isle of armor you can get your gigantamax pokemon pretty much right when you catch it.

[@treyad7547]

Gamefreak: Oh you all like mega evolution, Well I don’t LOL

[@shiningtriforce5966]

I abaolutly prefer Megas. For me, those were way more interesting. Stats, abilities and even types could change, helping a Pokemon out taking an extra hit or dish out some extra damage. Or potentially even playing an entirely different role. These stat, ability amd type changes were super interesting, from the battle aspect as well as design aspect. It opened up possibilities for old beloved or forgotten pokemon to shine again or furfill a new role. Charizard finally got its Dragon Type, Gyarados and Altaria became a fitting Dark and Fairy Type respectively and not to forgett the somewhat unexpected Dragon Type Ampharos. Especially type changes and designs reflecting these type changes were cool. (I also enjoy just studying the many designs of all the pokemkn and even here and there coming up with some fan designs myself). Dmax/gmax on the other had are kinda just "lets make one feature XL!" and thats mostly it. I still do enjoy some designs, but many are just that, XL versions of their normal forms. Gmax Gengar kinda just looks like a fatter Mega Gengar with less extra detailes. Gmax Centiskorch or Corviknight are just larger. Gmax Machamp or Lapras could have surely been Megas instead too. Designwise, to a degree, they dont seem as creative as megas and leave less opportunities for new things (you can't make a Gmax Form to different, while Megas can incorporate vast changes like types while still being logical to the core design of the pokemon). Even from a gameplay point of view, theres gmax, for me atleast, are kinda mediocre at best. In gyms they're absolutly hype. But the pokemon stats, abilities and types always stay the same, so their core strategy also mostly stays the same. The factor of weight (for some moves that calculate damage based on weight) straight up won't work against Gmax/Dmax Pokemon, making some moves and ability useless with this Gimmic/Battlestyle. And worst of all: many Gmax Moves are overall worse than their Dmax Variants! Dmax/Gmax battling also feels alot like "mirror matches". Hard to esplain, some might underatand what I mean. Its just kinda "both sides have 3 nuke attacks" with kinda just makes this whole thing equal (of course thats not quite true, a lot of strategy is involved as to gmax/dmax which Pokemon at what time), it just feels like gmax/dmax has less of an impact on strategy and the battle than Megas used to, and I did enjoy how Megas could change certain things in battle.

[@wesleyhunt7599]

I was disappointed how Mega was only for one generation. For something so important to the lore, you would think they would use it more. Dynamax could be something cool if it sticks around, but Mega as a mechanic is still better thought out and a good option in a pinch without being too OP for just a short time

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

@Wesley Hunt mega evolution was in gen 3 remakes and gen 7 games as well

[@Joelhector799]

Me: can we have deoxis Mom: we have deoxis at home Deoxis at home: **eternatus**

[@ishierrogamer7798]

Some Mega Evolutions are Broken, all Dynamax are Broken. There's a reason why Dynamax is banned in singles. The secundary effects are OP and the absurd increase of HP makes almost imposible to be 1hko. And they don't need an specific item, this was the thing wich made Mega Rayquaza the most OP mon ever.

[@k2basior]

What about doing a ranking of both Megas and Gigantamax combined from worse to best? Maybe after the DLC lunches and we will know the New G-Max forms? :-) or a general all alternative forms discussion taking into consideration which improve the pokemon the most? :-)

[@leumas698]

@MysticUmbreon I respect most of what you say, even things that I personally disagree with, but there was one specific part that you straight up lied in. At 8:08 you said “Having every move you use for 3 turns be just a powerful as a Z-move.” This is not correct. Z-moves have a specific structure for their power, but on average they increase a move’s base power by 65 points, and this number is even higher for exclusive Z-moves. Max moves from Dynamax & Gigantamax pokemon only have their moves’ base power increased by about 30 points, with the most powerful moves having little gain at all. (EXAMPLE: Absorb has base power 20 and it’s power increases by 70, but Close Combat with base power 120 is actually decreased by 25 points) Thus a pokemon using a Z-move will hit much harder than a pokemon using a Max Move. In fact, a Mega pokemon with the same base move would also deal, on average, more damage than a Dynamax / Gigantamax pokemon. (EXAMPLE: Dynamax Lucario uses Max Knuckle off of Close combat. 110 base attack and 95 base power, plus 1 stage of attack increase. If Mega Lucario used Dlose combat, it would hit much harder, with 145 base attack and 120 base power, although it would drop Lucario’s defence amd special defence.) This does not mean that a Mega pokemon would be better that a Dynamax / Gigantamax pokemon. The Mega would still most likely lose the fight due to the massive hp increase that comes with Dynamaxing. However, it does mean that a Mega pokemon would be much, much more of a threat to a regular team than a Dynamax / Gigantamax pokemon would. Please at least leave a note in the description correcting this. To everyone else who bothered reading through this whole comment, please like it or reply to try to draw attention to the matter!

[@oneheckofabanana2016]

Maybe he meant "powerful" as in what it can accomplish instead of just high base power. Max Knuckle also boosts Attack which is a great side effect.

[@kurisu1204]

Mega Evos > Dynamaxing any day Tbh i dislike this feature that much, that I d rather not have any New Feature at all

[@Daniel_He09]

same

[@artimist0315]

In term of visual design I really don't see how Gigantamax are better than mega evolutions, not only are they not very popular where as megas are a lot of people's favourite pokemons, but they often look very caricatural, with a lack of balance in the design. Also for pokemon that are meant to take up the whole screen, few of them are visually complexe enough to do that and that leads to stuff like machamp looking very stretched out. I could count on one hand the megas I dislike and count on the other one the gigantamax formes I liked, most of them being galar pokemon that look underwhelming in their base form because they were designed with their gigantamax in mind, something XY purposely avoided. A lot of gigantamax mons just look like visual jokes rather than serious forms which doesn't really help selling the mecanic. I'm very glad they got rid of it since it was an absolute pain to deal with in competitive and was way too impactful in the match, where I wished they brought back megas and stopped pretending like it was originally just meant to be a one gen gimmick, where it was clearly meant to last.

[@andrewkeshan8649]

Mega evolution is better. Dynamax and gygantamax makes no sense. Its just making the pokemon larger.

[@cityfantv-everythingmancit2946]

K TEEN no it’s really not. I do prefer m-evolution but gmaxing changes alot

[@Gemini-Lion]

A major part of playing with Megas is that they use much more strategy than Gmaxes. You can ACTUALLY use normal status moves AND stay in Mega form until it faints. Gmaxes aren’t like that. The main amount of strategy with Gmax is when to activate it, (as well as which Pokémon to use it on, but that is typically determined by the way your team is built) and then just try to dish out as much damage as possible. Gmaxes change ALL status moves into Max Guard, unless there is one that has a status move turn into a Gmax move I’m not aware of. With Megas, the strategy is when to use it, which Pokémon to use it on, which moves will be the best to have on that Mega (also predetermined), when would be a good time for status moves (if that is a major part of your strategy), etc. Megas just have SO MUCH potential! I really hope they manage to bring it back in later games or the dlc. They probably won’t, but a guy can hope, right?

[@michaelsnyman2800]

Well you can use it to survive something you wouldn't with the double HP but I agree megas are much better and I want them back

[@Redacted_Ruler]

I feel like the general community likes Mega Evolutions more.

[@peytonsnyder2421]

I'm just happy that Latias and Latios both got mega evolutions as they're my two favorite pokemon, although I wish they didn't look almost the exact same except for certain animations, eye color, and height/weight.

[@emanuellgabriel1274]

I want to see my Krookodile and Scolipede have an amazing Megas and I also want to see Wailord and Slaking have an incredible Gigantamax. It must be Epic!!

[@Hmmm777]

If Wailord have gigantamax the stadium will be ruin lol

[@shinylucario3600]

I like both but I have to go with megas because my favorite gen is gen 6 and megas were really useful but OP. Also it last the entire battle when dynamax only lasts 3 turns. But personally mega and dynamax are dwarfed by battle bond greninja. Ash Greninja is probably tied with mega lucario as my favourite of all time

[@yelllowjacket1756]

I WANT MY MEGA LUCARIO BACK 😭😭😭

[@idongesitusen5764]

While I haven’t played since Black in 2016, both mechanics are impressive. Hoping to try Sword at some point.

[@fawfulm8706]

Despite liking megas I see how Gmax and DMax are healthier for competitive play. The only thing I actually would like is turning mons capable of GMax easier to get into your regular journey. The thing that frustrated me the most during SwSh was that every single F***er could Gmax a pokémon while I was stuck into Dmax except if I spent hours searching into raids. If they made Gmax more acessible (like something that some wild pokémon could achieve) I could see myself leaning more towards the mechanic.

[@ZeothTheHedgehog]

So that's why there all banned?

[@fawfulm8706]

@@ZeothTheHedgehog Well, GF specified that one of the reasons they banned megas was to balance competitive play, so....

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Dmax as a mechanic is more unbalanced then megas. Certain megas are pretty broken though. Dmax favors water types specifically swift swimmers because they can just set their own rain by attacking. Swift swim mons were already strong enough to warrant carrying a mon dedicated to setting rain for them so them being able to do it themselves is overpowered to an extent. And dmax ignoring move locking effects heavily favors setup mons. You can’t run a prankster mon with encore to shut them down on the turn they set up anymore.

[@deraisbelial]

@@ultimaterecoil1136 just dmax and change the weather :) it isnt hard

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Adrian Soto oh sure use a fire move on the water types. While sure maybe setting sand can potentially be good dmaxing the other mons that could benefit from weather using loses to a rain dmax. Sun is probably coming from a fire type considering no hp fire for growth sweepers to have a fire attack and dmaxing a fire type against a water type isn’t the best idea. Most mons that benifit from sand also are weak to most rain mons ( though you may be able to win against a mantine with a physical attacker due to its rock weakness) and hail doesn’t have any great abusers. If you are suggesting just use a coverage move that’s a losing exchange too. The rain setter is using stab and you aren’t. Plus in a case of an actual rain team as opposed to only the swift swim dmax chances are the mon has some form of setup already off if they chose to dmax to set rain. An example is bellydrum drain punch poliwrath ( aka perpetually full hp mon with max attack and now it outspeeds most if not all your team due to swift swim). Unless it’s a water resistant mon changing the wether it’s probably not gonna win be in your favor ( and that’s if your strategy doesn’t revolve around a certain dmax or gmax) it would just be better to carry your own rain mon that or a maybe a fast enough scarfer to outspeed most rain mons that knows thunder.

[@eveegirl2878]

Yooo why is ur voice changing?

[@DDBaby03]

This man said gigantamax charizard is so much better than mega charizard

[@MissNikiRae]

I like raid battles, I think they’re a lot of fun especially when you can get help. They were a fun part of the post game I used the exp candies to help complete my pokedex and make new teams without have to spend what free time I have on grinding instead of playing. That being said I don’t care for dynamax battles in gyms. It feels like all there is to it in gyms is remembering to switch to the Pokémon you’ve been saving for the dynamax. If they want to make a challenge and not have the megas then make all the gyms in the second half of the gym challenge more like Raihan’s where it focused less on the typing and more of mechanics. Like maybe all of the last 4 gyms are doubles or have particular battling strategies or maybe even a duel type gym.

[@dhruvhosali2416]

Competitively dynamax/gigantamax is brainless you just click the button and snowball stats. Take Gyarados for example set up DD on the switch dynamax and click max airstream 3 times suddenly you're +1-4 attack and +4 speed and from there the game's over. Nothing is stopping a +4 +4 Gyarados.

[@dhruvhosali2416]

Gigantamax/dynamax makes all moves better z moves p much, which is kinda ridiculous. You can't say z moves are dumb and say you like dynamax/gmax. Also while helping the viability of less viable mons it also makes the ones at the top of the metagame even better (more than the amount the less viable mons get better) so there's almost no reason to waste ur dynamax/gmax on something that's not that good.

[@davidthai1082]

I alway love mega evolutions

[@Redacted_Ruler]

Imagine gigantamaxing a mega and then using a Z move.

[@SulliMike23]

I know Dynamax & Gigantamax pokemon are good, but I would love to have Mega Evolutions again just to see them take on Gigantamax pokemon. I'm sure that eventually, through some DLC, we'll get our wish; but until then we can only speculate.

[@angelicaolmedo6558]

Personally. I like Dynamax/Gigantamax more because I’m more familiar with it. Plus, I like the idea that different regions have their own way to power up Pokémon. I feel like if every region had the exact same way to power up Pokémon, the regions would feel less like it’s own thing. Im not saying that they should add something new to every new gen though. I like the idea of two trainers having a battle where one can dynamax/Gigantamax while the other one can do mega evolution. Just what I think though

[@cardia1769]

"Strategy when to dynamax" XDDDDD

[@ArtemisWasHere]

Think about it, only three turns, and only while that Pokémon is out And he is talking more competitive thinking

[@LollyByDay]

We can all debate whether Mega Evolutions or Gigantamax are better, but we can all agree that they're both better than Z-Moves.

[@thekingbradable]

Nah, Gmax is infinitely worse than both

[@rice7179]

Honestly the biggest reason I'd say I perfer mega evolution is because I'm not a the idea of just giant pokemon overrall. Pokemon that usually only grow in size I feel is just a loss of creativity and even when it comes down to gigantamax, mega evolution I feel looks better and feels more fun to fight against when doing a battle.

[@nikopogo1]

I agree with this 100%. Can't wait to see best mon Cinderace gmax in June.

[@relentlessaria6600]

i swear if Cynthia doesn't get a Mega Garchomp for the Gen 4 remakes i'm gonna Kill TPC

[@lillrice27]

If sinnoh remakes have gmax/dmax imagine a gigantamaxed garchomp

[@Hanke86]

My problem with mega evolutions are that pokemon that received a mega evolution should have just got a regular evolution

[@axels3188]

I think that your opinion was very interesting also in the Sun and Moon anime it showed that Megas and Z Moves were equal like sometimes Megas would win and sometimes Z Moves would so if Megas and Dyna/Gigantamaxs meet in Pokemon Journeys we could see a similar thing in the show.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

_slams table_ THANK YOU. G-Maxing is an actual battle of skill rather than raw brute strength. It feels like you need to really be careful and requires actual thought, and just about any Pokemon now can be viable. It's great.

[@thetabbyguy921]

A battle of *skill* nooo gigantamx pokemon are basicly unkillable if you are using anything else

[@kaischwarz6590]

its just 3 z-moves in a row whilw being tanky, I don't see the strategic component vs z-moves

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Dmax as a mechanic is unbalanced though. The fact that weather sweepers can set their own weather by one attacking is kinda busted. And dmax and gmax should not ignore move locking effects. Reminder that a few prankster mons had a niche in ubers gen 6 and 7 to prevent the fairy 🦌 from doing anything. Switch in when it geomanied and then use encore and it’s shit down. Those niches are dead in a meta where dmax is allowed

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Just dmax mantine every game and you will be fine.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Then Y'ALL need to watch Wolfey VGC. I have spoken.

[@pedromonteiro2248]

I am with Megas because it’s all concept is incredible, very funny and more like Pokémon lore! The Megas designs are very cool and beautiful! And Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y are the best Pokémon ever! Both are equally great evolution to the OG Charizard! PS: Gigantamax Charizard is amazing too!

[@KokiriTom]

As much as I like some of the gigantimax forms, mega evolution feels more fleshed out, especially with the type/ability changes and the increased stats, though I do like that you have to get the perfect chance to dynamax. I’m just surprised that the gigantimax/dynamax phenomenon only happened in Galar, especially since eternatus crashed down from space 20,000 years before the events of Sword and Shield. This also goes for ultra beasts because in Ultra S/M you’re able to evolve a Pikachu to a Kantonian Pikachu if you go far enough through Ultra space, so they must’ve reached some point outside Alola, but I guess since we’re done with Alola we won’t get a clear answer on that...

[@pixelfairy6128]

For me, the biggest reason megas are better than gigantas, is that you have to go and catch a whole new pokemon of that species if you want it to gigantamax. It can't be your special one, the one the raised, the shiny you already have. I was able to use the shiny Charmander that I lucked out on and make it mega evolve. But if I wanted a shiny gigantamax Charizard, I would have to go out and hunt for a new Charizard. I used a Centiskorch through basically my entire playthrough, then I found out I couldn't make it Gigantamax, I was so bitter and upset, and refused to go catch one that could Gigantamax, because I wanted to keep my teammate, my max friendship, high EV Centiskorch who had been there since the beginning.

[@countkingpen]

As someone who hasn’t played a ton of comp since Gen 7, I am saying all of this from a more casual standpoint regarding Gen 8 stuff. But Megas were fat and away a better addition. The one major upside to dynamax is it can be used on all mons, but that isn’t enough. Even from a casual standpoint, Megas were more tactical and allowed for more thought in battle, the only loosely tactical thing about dynamaxing as determining when to pop. Megas gave more more variety to styles, and the ability to switch them in and out was extremely good

[@machmach6981]

I prefer mega evolution as there's more variety in their strategy. I think Gigtamaxing is a purely offensive strategy, as the only non-damaging g-max move is basically a super protect. Being solely offensive in my opinion could be a bit repetitive and brain dead at times. Some mega evolutions are solely defensive and could be utility based, such as Venusaur, Steelix, Aggron, Sableye, and Banette.

[@josephbeaulieu1569]

I'd like to hear your thoughts on max soup in the dlc.

[@daderr99]

I tend to enjoy competitive Pokémon from a far, I like understanding strategies and watching people play but I mainly play casually. I may speak from nostalgia, but I feel like both mechanics are more of a gimmick, and I feel like megaevolution, having their design closer to the original mons, are just more "respectful" of the way I enjoy Pokémon being. Immersion was a big part of the series to me as a child, I used to think how cool would it have been if I could go to the beach and having my Swampert carrying me and play with me. I'm an adult now, and maybe gigantomax doesn't break the immersion for children nowadays, but I know it would have for me.

[@titanictyranitar9571]

I believe that mega is more popular and cool but gigantamax is more rule set and better for battling so basically what you said

[@YouStinkMike]

Is that why it’s been banned in smogon?

[@titanictyranitar9571]

Lol

[@c0mpu73rguy]

No gimmick > ANY gimmick Please Game Freak, for gen 9, go back to how things were in gen 5 and before. Normal pokemon battles! But if I had to choose, Dynamax seems like the least worst gimmick Pokemon introduced since you can't use it whenever you want. I don't want it to return but I want the other two (especially ME) to return even less.

[@davidwhit1393]

I think megas are a good gimik and should stay

[@c0mpu73rguy]

@@davidwhit1393 They already left. The problem with ME is that it was broken and that too few pokemon could use it, making it too predictable compared to Z-moves and (I think) Dynamax (since I haven’t played SwSh).

[@goroufromgenshin57107]

“It seems like megas and zmoves had a baby” Sync moves: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@megabox5884]

Imagine how crazy competitive play would be if we have mega evolutions, dynamax, gigantamax, and Z moves.

[@Hax_R_Us]

I like both, but I think dynamax is better for the game. The thing I didn't like about megas is that a lot of megas overshadowed others. For example, why would you pick mega sceptile (sorry sceptile😭) when you can use mega venusaur. Also a lot of mega pokemon made the metagame revolve around them in trying to find a way to counter them(I'm looking at you kangaskhan). And I like the fact that you have to try and figure out which pokemon you opponent will dynamax rather than seeing something like a kangaskhan on their team and just knowing that it's going to be mega.

[@heropontorchic1979]

I prefer Mega’s, but I love Gigantamax, I only wish it was more accessible.

[@StateBlaze1989]

My headcanon was always the reason those 40-odd pokemon can mega evolve was because their species were involved in the war when AZ fired the ultimate weapon.

[@LFPman]

7:42 I was going to comment on my opinion of the matter, but that Electrode has me on the floor bursting out

[@GravityIsFalling]

I feel as if those gigantamax forms could just be megas Like cmon, that can easily be a mega butterfree Mega all the way for me man

[@Johnzobeams]

Being that gen 8 was the first gen I have played. I prefer g max and dynomax

[@BiggestChungus21]

I just love how game freak was like, o so z moves are like nukes and are unbalanced huh? How about a baby z move but for 3 turns. How'd you like them apples?

[@insanemakaioshin]

There’s evidence that gen 6 remakes will take place at the same time as gen 4 remakes

[@MysticUmbreon]

Could you link me? Or elaborate on that? I'm curious

[@insanemakaioshin]

​@@MysticUmbreon The new Regis have X & Y on their faces. They've less gen 6 pokemon in gen 8 than any other gen, with 5 having the most representation. Gen 6 began 8 years prior to either 2020 or 2021, during gen 8. A few pokemon that can Gigantamax can also Mega evolve: Gengar, Kanto starters & Machamp. Lastly, *(AND MOST SPECULATIVE)* B2W2 & USUN could be considered both a 3rd game & a remake, so after they introduce the DP remakes they could give us a remake as a 3rd game, like balanced Z, ordered Z or Aura Z & then end the generation with Let's go Suicune & Rayquaza & have gen 9 have gen 8 remakes with let's go gen 4 & 5 & continue until gen 12 with gen 11 remakes & gen 10 let's go titles & continue from there.