Mega Range "BUDGET MULLET" Drivetrain. WILL IT WORK?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

***Since filming the video I've done a few things. Shortened the chain a pair of links. Added the Wolftooth. I've taken it on some short rides around town and it works. It's not pretty, but it works. AGAIN: I DON'T OFFICIALLY RECOMMEND YOU DO THIS. It's a bit of a bodge, but I am experimenting with other solutions right now (swapping out the lower cage, using a GX mech with Gevenalle shifters, etc.,) The search for #BUDGETMULLET continues.

[@Alex_564]

I've been looking at at Sram cranks(GXP bb) on ebay for myself & have found a few 1x setup(38t & lower) for~ $100 from Sram's mtb lineup. Could be something to look into as they come in a few different threaded standards & some even come with the BB included.

[@mellissanash7517]

Wait you swapped to a GX derailleur now?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

@@mellissanash7517 Yeah. Someone suggested a GX Eagle would work with Rival shifters.

[@jackhammer40k_]

@@PathLessPedaledTV You should put a 50T up front! 😂

[@mellissanash7517]

@@PathLessPedaledTV really? So 12speed with 12speed or as someone suggested 10speed only?

[@CykelSierra]

A budget Eagle, call it Pigeon!

[@arden0]

Seagull

[@mahiru20ten]

Or Hawk.

[@danielranario7201]

Quail

[@taavinen]

‘You’ll never fit a 50T on that’ Russ - ‘hold my beer while I wind out that B screw’ :D

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Sounds about right.

[@arobins74]

Or "hold my bourbon"?

[@gilerd77]

Lol

[@VietnamEli]

I really want to trim about 2 or 3 inches from that cable housing. 🤣

[@anunez6092]

🤣🤣🤣👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Yes!!!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

It works. So WGAF?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Johannes Nilsen I’ve managed to survive an extra 2 inches of cable so far.

[@VietnamEli]

@@PathLessPedaledTV You could probably cut the housing in half (and have enough left over for your next build). 😉 It’s mostly for aesthetics, and to minimize the snag potential. But, as you frequently say, you do you. This isn’t a serious criticism. We love you, man.

[@andrewm6192]

Interesting to see what happens when the chain and cassette are under load or going up hill 😀🚴🏻‍♂️

[@ohiomoto]

I'm running a e*thirteen TRS Plus 9-46 11-speed cassette with a GRX rear mech and 36t Wolftooth drop stop ring. This gives me 511% range without needing the road link. I did need to install an XD driver on my hub ($100) and the cassette costs more than the Sunrace (~$200), but is is also lighter (339g) than almost all of the other wide range cassettes on the market. I recommend getting the latest Gen2 version of the cassette (FW2TPA-101). I have been using it a little over a month now and love it. Shifting is solid and the range is amazing.

[@bikehiker1239]

ohiomoto what shifters are you using this setup with?

[@ohiomoto]

@@bikehiker1239 Shimano Road shifters. You can use Shimano road derailers and a Wolf Tooth Road link if you want. We ran that setup with 11-46 XT cassettes on our bikes before I switched to the GRX derailleurs. You have more options with SRAM because you can use MTB derailleurs with their road shifters. You just need the XD driver, the e13 9-46 and whatever front ring you want. So you get your wide range mullet, but the costs can add up depending on what you already have to work with. Keep in mind. Front rings can be limited if you are using road cranks. My 5 arm Shimano cranks will take a ring as small as 34t while my wife's 4 arm Ultegra cranks only go down to a 38t. (Though I was able to make a 36t work with some mods. #abadideaontopofabadidea)

[@nicklarson6]

11-46 seems like a good range. Hopefully SRAM will release 12 speed rival 1x next year officially. I think the chances are pretty good since last year we got the 12 speed electronic.

[@Spindatt]

I’d run a chain entirely made of quick links and not think twice haha The road link and less chain length must have helped the shifting on the smaller cogs?

[@jarrodspeed532]

whens the jersey coming

[@TimCalvin]

I mean. Sure. I'm pretty happy running 8spd (or 9spd, if you're feeling frisky) in a 11-32, with a 32/44 double up front. I could swap the cassette out to 11-34 or 11-36 if I needed more low end, I suppose. I guess I'm just not sold on 1x on a road/gravel/all road bike. On my MTB, absolutely- I've been running 1x there since 1999. But I'm a lot more sensitive to cadence on drop bar bikes, so I'll happily run a front derailleur. My $0.02.

[@davidcummings5826]

Tim Calvin , yup. I’m all for, “I did it because I could,” so I’m glad Russ did it... and not me. I’d rather have a 50t up front and a 32 in the back. I’m also a guy who has a 50/26 up front. I did it because I could...

[@CycloTourist]

Sunrace has also an 8-Speed Wide Ratio Cassette with 11-40. www.sunrace.com/en/products/detail/csm680

[@yonseimatt]

None of this is particularly groundbreaking really, as Russ said- it should just work! My mate wanted an 11-36 with compact crank up front on his venerable SRAM Rival 2*10 setup for our upcoming Taiwan trip, so I told him to buy a 10 speed XO medium cage derailleur which were going cheap as nobody wants 10 speed anymore. Works great. It'll work with SRAM 2*11 too. I also have a compact 34-50 up front, with old 10 speed Tiagra brifters and a 9 speed Alivio shadow derailleur rated for 36t (Shimano MTB stuff up to 9 speed is compatible with road stuff up to 10 speed) and I'm running an 11-42 with no issues whatsoever. It's just a case of knowing which bits should work together and trying it.

[@dimasadhiperdhana]

I've been watching (and subbed) your channel for a year, and I've been thinking to built budget mullet since. My bike came with 105 brifters, 105 RD, and 11-32T cassette on road hub, 44T road crank (1x). I bought Shimano CS-5100 11-51T cassette, Shimano RD-5100 MTB, and a Wolftooth Tanpan. The cassette and RD is cheap because they're outdated (and because they weights a lot). Need a spacer for installing that cassette into road hub, and longer chain. The results : Noticeable reduction on shifting performance when moving to the largest or smallest rear cog. Since I almost never use 11T, I adjusted the shifting to smooth out towards bigger cogs. So I think it's enough for me 😅

[@joeumbrell8774]

Great video. I am running a 10-36 10 speed cassette on a stock Tiagra derailleur with no modifications. They are paired up to Gevenalle 2x10 cx shifters.

[@planepower8523]

Exactly my intent with my Surly Wednesday! Monster adventure bike with drop bars, 26" fat and 11 speed 1X.

[@klunker289]

Nice! I'm going for the 11-50t on my 9speed. It'll be an awesome jump from a 12-36t w/38-28. Thanks for the tips and keep up the great work✌😄👍🚲

[@oldshovel]

Awesome - I have been exploring doing something just like this on a future gravel bike build. Great video.

[@hgh96]

waiting for your future videos 🖐️🖐️

[@simoneglinton3274]

I've been running a sunrace 10-46 (which is the same range as a 11-50) on my apex 1x11 groupset and it's been running all good, need to get an xd driver but my bike came with that so hey

[@gravelewok8284]

Russ.. good job on trying new things..your channel would not be where if you did not try new stuff. 🤘🏽🙋🏻‍♂️. Keep it up man! I’m a believer!

[@paulnam4488]

Recently put 1x11 on a monster cross bike, that was 9 speed triple for a decade. Used Sunrace 11-46, Microsoft XCD and Microsoft Bar End shifter. Works pretty good. Losing the front derailleur hardware saved a lot of weight and the bike looks better. Pleased with the way it works, so far. Used a 42t chainring. The trickiest aspect is getting the chainline optimized. I see that a hot set-up is using the left bar-con for a seat dropper control, but I don't want that right now. I think all the parts were less than $200, including a chainring and chain, cable and housing.

[@michaelfarrell5774]

A Sram Eagle chain will work perfectly on an 11spd drive train! Been using the NX eagle for a few months now

[@chuckrodgers4780]

Still one of my favorite videos! Love how tickled you got when it worked !

[@neilgoth1974]

Have you seen the 11-52 cassettes? Larger plate, more lumpia! :D

[@AdventuresWithDaniel]

Cool setup, can't wait for the update videos and see how it works!

[@tjrioux3059]

WOW, You're an explorer and we keep learning from you. Thanks.

[@leqin]

Congratulations on your Beagle Mullet setup Russ - make sure you come back telling us what you did/didnt like :)

[@walcottav]

Great, looking forward to your report from the road tests and how it performs under load.

[@scottlynch5804]

Really fun video Russ! Hope it works as well when it's under load when riding. Call me "old school"...earlier this year, I built up a bikepacking bike and went with a 2x9 setup - 36/22 in the front and 11-36 in the rear. It has all the gearing and simplicity I could ever want :-)

[@benzzoy]

Holey Moley! Climbing trees much with that 22x36?

[@scottlynch5804]

@@benzzoy Lol, it's called being middle aged and out of shape most of the time :-) No, seriously, I can count on one hand the times I've actually dropped it into the 22 up front. I don't use it, but it's nice to know it's there. Cheers!

[@michaelmagee6428]

Keep the Wolf Tooth in your pocket. I've done similar with shimano parts and cheap 11-40 on an old triple. All worked well until the 40t. Put on the Wolf Tooth. NO PROBLEMS. All shifts well and with the triple (28-38-48) I get some awesome gearings. Nice job! Just take your Wolf Tooth with you as your new chains stretch, you might have a problem. I wonder if the weight difference between a triple with 3 rings up front + front derailleur + extra shifter is a wash with the system you are using with a single up front, no front derailleur, no front shifter, but the massive weght of the 11-50 cassette you are using. Maybe time for a vid showing those systems side by side ( or even a double up front if you can't find a triple). Would be interesting to see the weight differences. Love my triples. Have them on 3 bikes with 11-40 out back. Thanks for the great vids. Keep the supple side down!

[@speedikat6822]

Wow. I just hope the trail test doesn't result in a bent/mangled hanger! I use a 11/42 right now because that is SRAMs stated limit. But an inexpensive and easy option of lower gears is exciting.

[@ridgewoodvarietytimelivefr9008]

I've been running budget 11-50 on the nor easter you saw me with at the philly expo. I ride flat bars, shimano deore works fine.

[@sabergo1]

Fun to do. I have an MTB crank with a 40T front chainring and the Sunrace 11-46 and the Apex 1x shifters. Works fine for me, just had to work the B-Screw more than normal when indexing. Don't really miss the FD at all. Enjoy tinkering!

[@hogdog567]

I'm running a Shimano 11-46 cassette on my road bike with an otherwise SRAM Apex/Rival drivetrain. It took a lot of fiddling with the b-screw to get it to run quietly, quickly and smoothly but it's perfect now. I thought that was the limit though, I'm amazed an 11-50 works!

[@estebanwexler]

I have a Kona Libre DL which came with SRAM Force 40T x 11/42T. I now run an ethirteen 9/46T x Absolute Black oval 36T. By the way the eThirteen is substantially lighter but costs a pretty penny. I can climb 15% gradients continuously but anything higher I can only go for short spurts especially fully loaded. Considering switching to a mountain crankset for steeper mountainous terrain. Could run a 28T then which would yield a easier climbing gear than going to a 50T in back. One more thing the 9T works flawlessly and the jumps between cogs is fine no real dead spots. Any comments?

[@sheilastallard]

You do have some fun don't you!!. Always looking forward to your video's!

[@gb9555]

Bravo!! Hope.it works. I truly hope this doesn't end with your derailleur grabbing a spoke. I have had this happen on the rival long cage and short cage. Turned out to be flex in the steel hanger on hard shifts.

[@ridehardlivehappy]

It's Alive!

[@cccorlew]

Looking forward to the ride video. I think you've been on the "Gearing on stock is too high for actual people." since I found you online. It's getting ever so slightly better, but not better enough. Yet. I'm about to find out if my Shimano 32 max spec derailleur can handle a 36. If you don't see me posting again it'll be because it all exploded.

[@julianlim8692]

Did it explode?

[@cccorlew]

@@julianlim8692 Amazingly enough, no! I tossed the wheel on just to check and was surprised I didn't even need to add links to my chain. Works fine, no wolfs tooth. Of course, I still wish it was lower.

[@CaptainShiny5000]

I'm all for hacking together the exact kind of shifting you want to have. Doesn't matter as long as it shifts smoothly.

[@highwayvagabonds474]

I ran 11-46 with a 50t oval Absolute Black on my Cervelo S3 for 2,000+ miles last season. Changing my new Cervelo C2 over to 1x 11-50 with 50t oval ASAP. Going Easton carbon cranks, oval chain ring, GRX rear mech mated to Ultegra shifters and Sunrace liteweight rear cassette in all Black, with a Blue/Black KMC chain to match the bike.

[@Busby7744]

I’m actually working through this now myself. I’m running a Rival 1 crank with wolf tooth chainring, 12 speed chain, eagle cassette/derailleur and planning on the gevenalle 1x12 shifters. Hopefully it goes well.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Cool. Let me know how it goes.

[@michaeltillman886]

That's a cold move dude. You the man!!!

[@alexball5907]

I know everyone is obsessed with 1x, but a double with a 36, 26 front end and a stock 12 speed 10-33 SRAM cassette will give you the same range, but will be a lot easier to manage. A stock Shimano 10 speed 10-36 cassette would be much cheaper, give a bigger range and less gaps in the gearing.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I'm not particularly sold with 1x. Just didn't have the $$$ for a 2x I wanted. Also conflicting reports on 2x compatibility with the Bombora. Just working with what I got.

[@Vorchata]

Micro shift does make a bar end shifter for eagle. Outside of the context of using brifters it works great and seems like the touring option.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Good to know!

[@yoshinoyajones8924]

my 71 Italvega mullet is only 5 speed, but like the garden, I dig it.

[@PhilSnider]

Nice job Russ! I've got that Sunrace 10-46 cassette sitting around waiting to replace the stock 10-42 cassette. As well as a 32t oval to replace my 30t oval. Hopefully that will be my sweet spot for gearing. Looking forward to the updates on what you find out about your mullet setup

[@LeVoyageurConscientise]

I think about replace my Marin Nicasio + 42T crankset for an oval 34T, do you like the oval?

[@dominikataniszewski]

Someone finally did it! And suprisingly it works (well?). Looking forward to cycling experience video! Thanks!

[@jameslang861]

SRAM road and MTB shifters have the same throw per shift. I have been running a 1x set up on my cross bike with Force levers and a MTB rear set up.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Maybe up to 9 or 10spd. But not 11 and above. Definitely not with Rival. I just tried a GX Eagle and Rival setup and it didn’t work.

[@MAGAIVER]

@@PathLessPedaledTV Try the non Eagle 11 speed GX rd, it should work.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

@@MAGAIVER tried a 10spd longcage GX and it didn't work. They should be functionally the same since it uses the same pull, but the shifting was crap.

[@nathanh281]

I exclaimed "BUDGET EAGLE MULLET" while watching this with headphones and my roommate has NO idea what that means

[@herethere2518]

I also run Rival 1x11 but I felt the stated 11-42 range was accurate in terms of ability to maintain proper tension throughout the cassette. I ended up running a 34t Wolftooth chainring up front and have been thrilled with the overall range (though I almost always have a dog in tow, so lots of slow unless a squirrel she sees!). Nice even steps throughout the cassette on 11-42 without any huge jumps in cadence, which the larger 11spd 46t and 50t tend to rely on (really need 12spd to avoid gaps here). I rarely go over 25mph so the top end is not an issue for me. My trusty old square taper crank remains stylish and as versatile as ever. Now if only Silver (rivbike) would start making their stylish chainring guards as tough as the old RockRings used to be!

[@ronanmclaughlin4235]

any chance of getting a review of what it's like out for a cycle? :)

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

More vids coming soon.

[@b4oh]

box components makes a 9 speed 11 - 50 super budget eagle

[@Niidea1986]

I had a better idea: go back to triple chainset XD

[@chrispalmer1773]

Microshift 12 speed bar end shifter, nx eagle cassette and eagle gx derailleur

[@CanIHasThisName]

I honestly believe SRAM's 1x road derailleurs were actually designed to take 46t, just advertised as 42 because perhaps that's the largest road cassette there is? Or I don't know.

[@scrooge1913]

People always say that there is weight savings for 1x because of the removal of the front derailleur, but I wonder what the threshold is for that? There might be a point where the larger rear cassette is just as heavy as a smaller cassette and front derailleur.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

The Sunrace is esp heavy, but there are machined lighter options.

[@DougMayer]

Budget eagle = NX + MTB riser bar. Wide bars feel great & and I don’t miss the drops at all.

[@ukulelelifelessons1746]

“Whatever you do, don’t do it” *proceeds to do it.

[@danielkim8246]

What are your thoughts on the Sturmey Archery CS-RK3 as the ultimate whacked out mullet bike hub? I have one waiting to be built up, so already know it can fit a SRAM 11 speed 11-42 cassette. My biggest struggle so far is finding the right drop bar front shifter that will accommodate the cable ratios for the internal 3 speed. Any suggestions?

[@mechanicaldavid4827]

I hope you got a good look at another Mullet bike at PBX - Danielle Schön had her North Shore-inluenced frame build as part of the SRAM scholarship group - I also heard on a Mullet, the front and back wheels are bigger/smaller.

[@halamagrep9727]

Hey love your Vids and hacks, i run my GRX 400 with a 40T Cassette and found my interest in tinkering with Gears. Now I bought a Sutra LTD and it comes with Rival 1. I want to try your hack and wanted to ask how big is the front Chainring you are running and if you needed more than 116 links when using a Road Link. Thanks for you answer and keep up the good work we budget rider need.!

[@yanncampbell7401]

That's the point where 2x really make more sense if you have to fit heavy cassettes with big gaps.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I'm not particularly sold with 1x. Just didn't have the $$$ for a 2x I wanted. Also conflicting reports on 2x compatibility with the Bombora. Just working with what I got.

[@mzerinskas]

@@PathLessPedaledTV Bombora 2x think this should work with the largest chainring being 44. You hearing otherwise? I'm considering picking one up. Thanks.

[@joeb6955]

The Mad Scientist cooks up a monster (gear), and the bike says: "I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel". Hope you don't actually fall. What a fun project to watch. Thank you kindly.

[@peterbaskind9872]

My mountain bike has an iteration of Eagle with a 11/50 and a 30T chainring. Yes; I can pull a train up a mountain.

[@tommybdutton]

Awesome 👏, I might try to home, if I get injured I will not hold you liable😂

[@clytngrn]

Fun video 😃 Thanks Russ

[@f00bert24]

Ive seen all your budget mullet videos, what is the best set up among all of them? Variables can include cost, complexity of installation, shifting quality, etc.

[@apistacio6794]

I thought the mullet reference had to deal with the chain ring to cassette ratio. Its So similar to the mullet hair cut. Buisness in the front. party in the back!!!

[@steveb1972]

Fingers crossed!👍🏻

[@jeffreydzialo]

I'm looking forward to your ride review.

[@MAGAIVER]

There are other ways to do it, you can use a Shimano 11 speed mountain bike rear derraileur (SLX, XT or XTR) with a sunrace 11-50 cassete and a Wolftooth tanpan to make the MTB rd work with road shifters. You can use a Shimano XT or XTR Di2 rear derraileur with the same Sunrace 11-50 and Ultegra or Dura Ace Di2 Shifters. You can use a Shimano GRX 600 or 800 1x drivetrain with the Sunrace 11-50 too. All of these solutions work with a standard HG freehub. And you can also use a Gevenalle shifter for Shimano 12 speed MTB drivetrains such as XTR 9100, XT 8100 and SLX 7100 but that will require a microspline freehub.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Sounds like it’s easier to do with Shimano?

[@MAGAIVER]

@@PathLessPedaledTV I dont have much experience with SRAM, but Shimano mixed with third party components creates quite a bit of options. One other thing I forgot to mention is Microshift, they make a bar end shifter for 12 speed Eagle drivetrains.

[@brunozatti1997]

Nice work man super cool 😎

[@gilerd77]

Very interesting test! I think I will continue to be a 28-38 mtn double grouch :-D

[@kevp68]

A great experiment.... I understand the need for this for some riders,,,,, but it looks soooo weird

[@a234633]

So if I understand this if I were to change to Jones bars on my Fargo and want to do 1x in front it would be simple just new brake levers and back shifter but if I keep the salsa wood chipper then I would have to try this or the other one.

[@russaanderson]

Love it - keep us posted!

[@maxlawwk]

Dive in thingiverse, search a compatible derailleur arm, download the stl file, change the length of the arm using 3D drawing software. 3D print the design using carbon fibre filament. Replace the stock arm with the printed one, experiment the proper length of the printed arm. You are good to go. Tons of fun.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

That sounds more expensive in time and printing than a new derailleur :)

[@overlow91]

I'm actually more afraid on going on the 11cog than the 50, looks like the derailleur is just about to fold completely on the smalles cog

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I removed another link and it works great.

[@gjtramey]

To paraphrase Russ from a recent video: I am running two 1x systems side by side! I am definitely a retrogrouch; therefore I just don't get the whole 1x fad. Weight and simplicity arguments are trivial minutiae to me. If we were going the other way, the cycling world would be blown away by the simple diversity of 2x or, gasp, 3x systems. I like the experiment Russ, and I am a big fan, but I am not rushing out to duplicate this in my stable. Like I said, retrogrouch.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I would have done a 2x wide range but am on a tight budget. So making what I do have work.

[@ronalcasid3844]

It looks like the chain is now so long the derailleur cage can't provide any tension while on the smallest gear.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yeah. Ended up shortening the chain and doing other mods.....documented in the next video.

[@pressaltf4495]

im a bit confused with alk the names of the parts. can i get a full list of them?

[@lux-3001]

if I were you, I'd go for an xd hub in the back and the e*thirteen 9-46 cassette... Better range on the existing chain ring.

[@ozturkbe]

I wish this had come out before I did a similar thing on my CX bike last winter. Would have saved a lot of nerves :P

[@altaloma7789]

I'm currently running an odd combination that gives me something similar, but not exactly. I'm still running a triple, 44-34-22 Shimano in front and a cobbed together 14-40 in the rear, using a long cage Shimano LX and 26 inch wheels. I'd like to go to a 42 expander sprocket in the rear, but that will come in time. Why such a low system? I tow a camping trailer up serious hills. The two criteria that are important are 1) Can I still balance when climbing in the lowest gear (14 gear inches), and 2) Why have anything taller than 70 gear inches when you don't really want to go fast anyway? I now regard downhills as a cruel joke to shorten your recovery time after that last killer hill. If your gear combo is a pidgeon, consider mine to be a mutt. Not sure what the bird equivalent of a mutt would be. Sparrow?

[@Robinators]

Interested in, how this setup is working in deep mud,sand, snow when its all dirty and grimmy, after 5h ride .

[@nedt]

Great job,it's irriuvelent but I believe the SRAM NX 12 speed is shimano splined so you don’t have to go XD driver, still have to sell your house though to buy wireless!!! I'd bike interested to see the difference between your derailuer and a mountain long cage one, I believe they have the same pull ratio.

[@dreamcoaching]

Love it Russ! I am making a 1x10 set up on a gorilla monsoon. I am using a SRAM Apex brifter 10 speed set up(they only had the 2x10 in the shop so I am only using the rear shifter) and a SRAM GX 10 speed der. The cassette is Sunrace MX3 11-42T. I am having some troubles with the shifting and want to confirm that this set up works together? Stuff I seem to find online says that it does. can you confirm? Thanks for everything!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Making a vid on that tmrw.

[@dreamcoaching]

Amazing!

[@Hokum48]

Hi @pathlesspedaledTV, any suggestions for my Rival xplr 1X gravel drivetrain? Currently run the 10-44 cassette hoping for a cheap mullet build (atleast a 10-46)

[@mikieson]

one reason ive yet to jump into a new road bike is because i dont like most gearing. I dont know all the ins and outs no matter how many videos i watch..I just know that I want a rear cassette like that. WHen i want EASY pedaling, I want EASY PEDALING..

[@trevorsgaragemusings]

The proof is in the pudding: shifting back to back to back up/down from the largest cog to the next largest cog ... get that straight, then check the same in the small two cogs as well. The key is being able to quick shift between them in both directions repeatedly. If you have to baby it in either direction, no way it stands up to a road test.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

FWIW have ridden it on the road since making the video and it works. I don't fully recommend and endorse it (hence the disclaimers in the beginning and end) and am looking for a better alternative, but it does in the technical sense work.

[@trevorsgaragemusings]

@@PathLessPedaledTV My plan is to wait until the AXS components come down in price ... already have the XD Driver and very light weight 10-42 installed (picked up used for $100). I've also got a 9-46T which pairs nicely with the 36T CR to keep the top speed up on flats & downhill, but I still think the 9T cog is a bit much. 10-50 would be nice, but those Eagle prices are hard to swallow and the 12 vs. 11 make the proposition undoable for brifters unless you go AXS ... and thus I wait ...

[@lmbraga]

Hey, I'm considering buying my first drop bar bike. I'm looking at a sub-10kg (20lbs) cyclocross bike that I'd like to convert to be more supple for bikepacking and gravel. What do you think? Is it a good option?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yeah. Sounds great!

[@alexball5907]

I'm running Campagnolo 10s triple. It works great and is really durable,but I'd like some lower gears. Is anyone on here running Campagnolo drive train with a Shimano cassette? My other alternative is to run a smaller chairing in the triple, maybe a 28t instead of the current 30t.

[@ABFPV584]

I have a budget mullet but it's 9 speed. Sora shifters with alivio rear derailleur, 11-40t cassette

[@yonseimatt]

I have something similar- Tiagra 10 speed, compact double up front, Alivio derailleur, 11-42. Great minds think alike ;-)

[@ABFPV584]

@@yonseimatt that's right! You can do a lot more on your own than big companies would like it seems. I'm 1x right now but I still have the option to run a mtb crankset for crazy low gearing

[@kenexum3007]

Hi Russ, I’ve been running that same Sunrace 11-50 cassette, with an Absolute Black 36T Oval, on my 2020 Cutthroat Apex 1 for the last 250 miles or so. I put it on about four days after I got the bike and found that the only thing I had to do was adjust the B-screw. In my case the stock chain was already long enough, although just barely. I’ll probably shift to the KMC 11x chain after I wear through the original one and see if the extra four links it comes with make it even better, or worse.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

What rear mech are you using?

[@kenexum3007]

Path Less Pedaled I’m just using the stock SRAM Apex 1 that came on the bike. Stock Apex brifters, too.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Trying Apex next.

[@Tekwa42]

Hi I have a grx810 derailleur and I would like to convert my 2x to 1x. I would like to put 40t chainring and 11-46t cassette, do you think my derailleur work? Thanks

[@julianlim8692]

Was thinking of pairing a Deore 592 with a 5700 Shimano 105 STI. 10 speeds

[@StopLossLOL]

How is the clamp tool called that holds the cassette in place while unscrewing the lockring? I always found chain-whips pretty annoying. Also, what's the name of the bike repair stand?

[@jbandt]

Keep us posted on how it performs. I'm running the 11-42 rival cassette with the 38t chainring and i wouldn't mind some lower gearing out back. 46 or 50 possibly.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I can 100% recommend 46t. 50 with this rear derailleur is still iffy.

[@andreaspramono]

Hai PLP, greetings from Indonesia, I'm want to use ignite brifter 9 speed, with 11-40t sunrace sprocket, can this setup working smoothly?..😁 thank you

[@mot0s896]

I run the Gevenalle Shifters and 12 speed. 11-50 so no change on the free hub. Works nice an you get the Sram Eagle GX for nice prices

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Good to know. Using a Gevenalle and an Eagle GX was another alternative I explored but JUST bought the Rival shifter.

[@RaoulWymann]

I am using that setup on my rando bike. rode a 1200km brevet on it, Paris-Brest-Paris. I love it !! runing a 42 up front an 11-50 in the back

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

@@RaoulWymann Cool. Which rear mech? Using a Wolftooth?

[@RaoulWymann]

@@PathLessPedaledTV XO, because... why not... no woolf tootch on this bike. that0s the beauty with Genevalles brifters, they are designed to work with MTB 12 10/11/12 speed shimano and 12 speed sram out of the box . it's a trek checkpoint SL5. the SL6 came out a few month after I finished my build, and has the wireless setup you mentioned from SRAM, (40 UP FRONT, 10-50 IN THE BACK) it's nice to see a manufactor going that route, and we hope for this tech to trickle down....

[@briancherbak5047]

This is awesome. I've been having a really hard time sorting out which hubs/cassettes/derailleurs/shifters are compatible with each other for my next build. Does that cassette go on a standard HG body? -- and the cog spacing lines up with the Sram 11 speed road shifters? What's the specific part number? Thanks for making the video.

[@Alex_564]

I was told with Sram it was after 10 speed where it went down, because on my Wolverine I had originally sram rival brifter and mid-cage RD w/28t rear & Rival compact double(got the parts of a cyclecross bike). Not an optimal setup uphill & with a help of google I was told the 10spd Sram GX RD works. My local co-op had a like new for really cheap, which now makes it 36t max RD on a 2x or 42t if I go 1x. My local REIs did not have a 10spd 116 link sram chain in stock & was on back order so I went to a LBS & got a Shimano 116 link 10spd chain. Works fine with no shifting issues. It's 11spd and up that's were compatibility issues show up. In my search I was told that using a longer b-screw I could 40t on a 2x & 46t on a 1x setup. Anyone know if I can run an 11-40t setup on a 2x10 GX setup(without roadlink)?

[@maxab7e63s5]

I think wolftooth sell longer b screws

[@Alex_564]

I haven't checked, but in my search it mentioned to check hardware store for the screw.

[@Kyle-ii3kb]

I'm in a similar boat, I'm running 11-36 for now.

[@Alex_564]

Thinking wolf tooth would be the simple option when a time to get a new cassette or think about going 1x to get the 42t.

[@scubajunkee]

Not sure about the 2x10 gx, but I'm running a 2x10 sram apex brifters, 50/34 double up front with 11-40 Praxis Works cassette in the back with the sram rival medium cage on my Van Dessel Whiskey Tango Foxtrot with no problems.

[@beardedcycler359]

Do you have a video on the one you took off? I am thinking about changing up my cassette this year.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I’ve taken off so many cassettes doing these vids. You’re going to have to be more specific :)