Megachurch Pastor Robert Morris Admits THIS?

Pastor Robert Morris Admits To This?
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What Do You Guys Think?

[@HankSemoreButz]

The video was taken down

[@MyLivingJournal]

@@HankSemoreButz It hasn't started yet.

[@SarainaDay]

@@MyLivingJournal it had started, I was behind the live but in the middle of watching it and it said the video wasn’t available

[@kylebishop3209]

I think he should go to prison

[@HankSemoreButz]

@@kylebishop3209 convicted in the court of public opinion. It seems to be the highest court in the land nowadays…

[@crystalbacchus]

I think it's interesting that his behavior is described as a moral failure and not described as engaging in criminal behavior.

[@Cng0411]

UMM THIS PART!!

[@myrlonortell6667]

well said

[@dahliaherrod4301]

It should be considered both

[@daniellewhitney7008]

Predatory behavior

[@deeayeveeeyees]

​@@dahliaherrod4301if it's described as a criminal behavior it is a more accurate description and already implies moral failure. describing it as just a moral failure minimizes the criminal nature of his crime and does not automatically imply a crime. so yes, "criminal behavior" would have been a more accurate description.

[@uofa82]

God is cleaning house. Not just deceptive pastors. Everyone. Check my heart, oh Lord, and see if there be any wicked way in me. 🙏😭✝️🕊️

[@0.7hujhyh]

You know paul did horrible things in the past aswell but the difference is you guys think because its "creepier" it should be of more condemnation, he can be forgiven

[@uofa82]

@@0.7hujhyh Paul never sexually assaulted a child. In fact, no one in the Bible did. Yes, they were sinners, as we all are, but not child molesters. That’s what sets this apart: a pastor, sexual assault with a child, and deception to cover it up. This about as bad as it gets. Only murder would be worse. We know King David did that to try to cover his sin of adultery. This sin is worse than adultery. It was the sexual grooming and abuse of a CHILD. I hope you can find it in your mind to understand the gravity of his actions.

[@0.7hujhyh]

Sexual abuse of children is serious but its not uncommon, its very common thing that happens. I would be very angry if it happen to my child but God has seen and known what man is capable of from the beginning and he still chose to send His son to die for us sinners ​@@uofa82

[@devkev4914]

​@@uofa82I've been reading the Bible for a few years now and I need to find the part when your emotions, (because you're rightfully upset) and logic says what should and shouldn't happen to a man or woman of God caught in sin. While we're at it.. let's talk about incest, and unconsensual sex. Where does that fall on the rank of sexual sins. And how did God punish them (Noah's daughters)?

[@gregoryswift7804]

Did God still consider David a man after His own heart after David committed adultery and murder? Or did God continue to use David restoring their relationship? Should we imitate God, or become judge n jury and executioner? Those are just my personal questions I ask myself! No man is incapable of committing any transgression, but for the grace of God it could happen to any man or woman 👼🏽💛🙏🏾

[@theprophetictype36]

Not the elders at Shady Grove Church!!! He should have submitted himself to the cops! He made it seems like he was having an affair with a consenting adult, instead of SA on a child, which is a crime. Your past is your past and there's grace and forgiveness for your sins. But grace doesn't stop the consequences of your actions, and forgiveness doesn't mean you should attempt to silence your victim.

[@wevers1978]

This was and is a crime!!

[@melodysledgister2468]

And it disqualifies one from being an elder or pastor. 1 Timothy 3. Can he be forgiven? Yes, of course. Should he be restored to the pulpit? No. He can serve the Lord in other capacities, but never again as a pastor.

[@NB-nh2sf]

!!!!

[@CarlosAlvarez-ho6sp]

Counselors, Leaders and Especially Elders have a Moral Legal Responsibility to REPORT Child Abuse to the Police. Everyone Knows This. Not to to so is Totally Unethical & Shady🤷‍♂️

[@AnnalyFaith]

He has absconded to Greece!

[@peppermintt00a17]

This makes me think of how Billy Graham never met with a woman behind closed doors. That should be the policy with children, too.

[@faithwhite3175]

You would be wrong about Graham.....they tried to keep it a secret. And have done a good job at it. But research will tell otherwise.

[@RealMarioMagana]

I just preached on this! Wolves are empowered by the people who follow them. We also platform gifts over fruit (character) too often. God help us!

[@BrianLohse-vg4wk]

Unfortunately you are correct . Preachers according to the word are sent by God.

[@MsKZ810]

Gifts over fruit, well said! It happens way too often

[@jennifertaylor5391]

This!! 🎯💯

[@M_butterfly788.-tf8bd]

Fruit is character and fruit is words what someone is teaching, the doctrines, what they saying.

[@pgradysmith]

Yes, brother- that is a problem all over, it's a 'human' problem. God help us.

[@AustinBurch1]

He should not have been allowed to be a pastor. He should have been put in prison and registered as an offender. The men who knew about this should also have been investigated and given appropriate jail time. Should we forgive? Sure. But that does not mean that we allow that person to be in any kind of pastoral or ministerial position of authority and influence. Children are precious in the eyes of God. I think Jesus Himself mentioned millstones for those who cause a child to stumble or cause them harm.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Forgiveness does not involve them going back into ministry ever. I don’t want to take away from the forgiveness that God offered all mankind to our fallen, but it doesn’t mean you have to be back in a position of power ever and you should not be.

[@AustinBurch1]

@@SeanEustace-zk3mc I agree 100%

[@LisaPeterson227]

He is still a citizen who broke the law. He will be judged for hurting a child.

[@pgradysmith]

Yes Yes Yes And Yes! On all accounts!

[@samgonza1975]

Im sorry but we have to take what the Bible teaches us and how God would use and restore people. Paul is an excellent example. He didn’t tape kids. Sure. But he was a direct reason people were Martyrd for the faith in Jesus. And Jesus chose him, restored him, and used him till he himself was Martryd. It’s horrible what happened. But we can’t throw stones. And we certainly can’t say that God has not used Robert in all these past years to help people have a relationship with Him. It’s a very difficult situation.

[@andre0baskin]

She was 12. No amount of spin, so called therapy, or anything else will make that right or excusable. He needs to go and if possible be prosecuted.

[@0.7hujhyh]

He can be forgiven, your not the judge the gavel isnt in your hand

[@lindab.1625]

Shocking too that his wife took him back. An affair is bad enough but 5 yrs of lying, betrayal and essentially raping an innocent 12 yr old girl…. no way, leave him and lock him up!

[@deeperlife5689]

⁠@@0.7hujhyhI don’t see anywhere in that comment where the person is saying he can’t be forgiven. This reminds me of Benny Hinn who has claimed to have repented several times over his behaviour only to continue to minimise, justify and downplay what he has done and repeat the same behaviour. One of the things I find unbelievable is many people supporting Morris dismiss this woman as money grabbing and having an ulterior motive in all of this instead of asking why he has continued to try and downplay his past Yes forgiveness is possible but he must be held to account for what he did and that includes trying to make out that it was adultery rather than abuse. I pray the whole truth comes out and this court case will be successful the woman receives some closure and that Morris truly repents.

[@mcgtwarrior]

He MUST be held accountable

[@mcgtwarrior]

​@@0.7hujhyhHe needs to be held accountable.

[@tagladyify]

As a 20 year old married father he was molesting a 12 year old girl for 4 years. The home of a man trying to help him and his own family. He was preaching all the while. This man is disgusting.

[@MsLisa1114]

Amen

[@pgradysmith]

TRUTH- predatory behavior

[@ChubbsandSadie1]

If he’s 62, then he was 27 when she was 12

[@tagladyify]

@@ChubbsandSadie1 he was born in 1961 and she was born in 1970. The rape began on 12/24/1982. He was 21 and she was 12 to be exact.

[@tagladyify]

It ended when he was 25 ish and she was 16

[@speaklife7119]

I think if a church does not call the police of rape of children and adult should be held accountable for criminal activity.

[@myorvi]

RAPE ?? Did you even took the time to read & heard before using such a word 🙄🙄🙄

[@donnastokes-manning6175]

The wife saying she forgives the victim is disturbing to me. If it were MY husband there’s no way I would allow him to blame the 12 year old even if she actually DID flirt with him, HE should have known better.

[@marlenemoore6087]

The wife doesn’t realize she’s in an abusive situation. She’s trying to put the 12 year old in there with her. Pray for the wife also🥹

[@faithwhite3175]

Exactly

[@theservantbrown]

This is such a powerful conversation. My heart is heavy about it all. Lord have mercy.

[@sararobison3023]

I love “ the guy that talks well isn’t going to be the one to show up at the hospital.” That’s right we need pastors who are there in the thick of it.

[@MalloryNewcomb]

Those guys are often different ones than the one giving the sermon. In my recent experience anyway

[@johnanderson7397]

This is our church and our Pastor and I can say I personally am rocked by this and trying to process. My prayers are with the victim and her family.

[@melissap2703]

I can’t imagine. Hugs to you.. the ripple effect reaches far and wide

[@ThePossumone]

Prayers & thoughts & compassion is needed for your congregation too 😢

[@faithwhite3175]

Seems like the mega ministers that are guilty of SA have an arrogance about themselves.

[@NB-nh2sf]

He cannot be a pastor Period.

[@IllTalkAboutIt2.0]

That's your opinion..not scripture...Bible says differently...

[@El_Estudio]

@@IllTalkAboutIt2.0 2 An overseer (ἐπίσκοπος - Protestantism has generally viewed this as one who pastors as church), therefore, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, self-controlled, sensible, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not an excessive drinker, not a bully but gentle, not quarrelsome, not greedy. 4 He must manage his own household competently and have his children under control with all dignity. 5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of God’s church?) 6 He must not be a new convert, or he might become conceited and incur the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Furthermore, he must have a good reputation among outsiders, so that he does not fall into disgrace and the devil’s trap. (1 Tim 3) While this does not specifically mentions SA or other sexual issues, what do we believe Paul mentioned with "above reproach," "self-controlled," "respectable," etc.? If this guy is qualified to be leading anyone in any church then anyone is qualified.

[@JC-gu2rn]

@@IllTalkAboutIt2.0 1 Timothy 3:1-8 says he can’t pastor/bishop/oversee

[@sandrinebakombo2699]

@@IllTalkAboutIt2.0 Bible says he cannot be a pastor, needs to be above reproach. Please read it carefully before commenting 🙏🏾

[@Siacourage]

@@sandrinebakombo2699 You guys act as though he committed that sin recently. That was over 35 years ago!!! He repented and changed his ways. So yes, he is beyond reproach. Unless someone else comes forward with a more recent case he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

[@drose3812]

Robert Morris committed a terrible crime against a 12 yr. old little girl! This is a criminal issue not just a church issue! He was not fully transparent! He was not forthright! He should have been criminally charged, had prison time etc. not go through a church restoration process and be put back into full time Pastoral duties. This a terrible breach of trust! The LORD JESUS is Very Serious regarding crimes against children as seen in Matthew 18:6! And HE is Not Mocked!

[@ksprinkle1]

You hit on the relevant Scripture here... thank you for sharing. I love Ruslan, but this was needed in the conversation. Ruslan works hard to not see things through a wounded or victim lens, for he (and we others who have suffered) in Christ are free and victorious over those old traumas. It is obvious Jesus has healed much in him. But this verse is important...and i urge that it not be used with fleshly anger or a vengeful spirit, but perhaps a holy and righteous indignation. Jesus loves the little children. Do not prevent them from coming to Him...for such is the kingdom of Heaven.

[@Redlighttherapygirl]

Absolutely

[@sosapablo1789]

He should have done Jail time.

[@rettpanda6203]

Ummmm....no. Matthew 18:6

[@sosapablo1789]

@@rettpanda6203 Um yes. Romans 13. He broke more than a moral law, he’s accountable to the authorities.

[@fernandoformeloza4107]

​@@rettpanda6203 Matthew 18:6? That passage does not have anything to do with whether anyone should do jail time or not. Could show you by posting that scripture. What are you even reading?

[@indigatorveritatis7343]

@@rettpanda6203 The good thing is the mindless drones won't stop what's rightfully coming to Morris

[@GabeGarsia]

@@rettpanda6203dude what?

[@ridmak95]

I pray for everyone involved man. from the victim and her family to the members of Gateway, to the members of the old church and Morris and his family too. I don’t go to Gateway, but it’s right in my area of the DFW and I drive past it on the way to my own church every Sunday. This was a horrible horrible thing for the victim to endure for YEARS. But it doesn’t just stop there. Ruslan you hit the nail on the head. It’s a black eye to the Church and then you think about the confusion this brings to those who are on the fence about faith or are new to the faith. I pray that the Holy Spirit comforts all those affected in the midst of this devastating news.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Yes, you’re right for praying for everyone, and it’s not only a black eye for the church before the world. It’s a black eye for those people who tried to get their family members saved and going to church will now have the shit thrown in their face and I have experienced it myself and it sucks.

[@sherronyarborough6462]

Texas Law The instant exposure is made, Child Protective is to be called and the predator is to never be around children. This includes school teachers. Never again.

[@kaseyleatherwood8841]

“We don’t want pastors we want communicators, and then think everyone who is a communicator is a pastor…” 🔥 “ Saul looked the part, interesting enough David didn’t.” I pray as many Christian’s see this video as possible!

[@0.7hujhyh]

I dont get it, each of those people were vice versa like all of us were at some point

[@jennihubby2877]

No, many of us would not have overlooked this. Had we known. That’s the problem with celebrity pastors, they can hide from the congregation.

[@bryantdarris]

I agree the word spin was sadly intentionally.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

Adherents of traditional Christianity created the culture of celebrity pastors, so the fault lies with them too. It's easy to blame the pastors themselves, but evangelicals elevate these ppl to a status of being above reproach and legitimate criticism because they're more like fanboys instead of Christians. If evangelicals stopped being fanboys of these pastors and stopped making excuses for them, they wouldn't be getting away with crimes like this.

[@Zephaniah319]

He abused a 12 year old for 4 and half years. His wife called up the victim and said "I forgive you." Let that sink in. The wife of this pastor called up the victim, who her husband victimized when she was 12 to 16 and half years old, and told her that she forgave her. Their attorney blamed a child for being flirtatious, as to why they would not fork out the money for her counseling, but they use parishioners money, to vacation in Greece. Let that sink in. They have money for trips, lavish dinner parties, but not the amount needed for the victim to receive counseling. He stepped away from ministry for only 1 month, not 2 years, and he did not get Cindy's Father's blessing or permission, to which her father washed his hands of this Church and Robert. Cindy was a child not a "Young Lady". He digitally r*ped her, molested her, and victimized her. This is not a "Moral Failure" this is Child Molestation. This situation bothers me for the fact that I actually applied this man's teachings. I personally listened to this man.

[@PattyWilliams-bg4ec]

What is digitally rãpëd?

[@wevers1978]

Totally agree with everything you said!! God is exposing all and accountability and judgement belong FIRST to the House of God! We also need smaller churches with accountability for pastors and leaders!!

[@coryrhymer1852]

Especially this year !

[@TBird5790]

I wouldn't normally agree with simply needing smaller churches, but it does seem like it happens too often in mega churches. In my humble opinion, it happens in smaller churches too, but we don't know about these smaller churches because they aren't in the limelight. My family went to a smaller church and there was adultery in it. Sin knows no perfect church size to abound. It happens when temptation is given into instead of running from it.

[@mele1617]

Judgment begins with the house of God...the enemy infiltrated and we become more sensational instead of biblical ...Lord grant us wisdom in this season in Jesus name amen......

[@0.7hujhyh]

Drama channel tho doesnt help

[@mele1617]

@@0.7hujhyh drama channel??

[@PattyWilliams-bg4ec]

@@0.7hujhyh What the, do you mean by drama channel ?

[@jescjesi8278]

As a former member, they NEVER painted it as anything other than an affair/moral failure (presumably with a consenting adult). It was not portrayed as child molest@tion. I'm am so glad we left 10 years! Makes me sick!

[@robw2486]

I heard Robert Morris speak at my church in the UK, and i also read his book. He use to openly talk about repenting for a 'Moral failure' from years ago, and said he had been forgiven by God and his wife. I assumed it was adultery on his part, and was a mutually consensual affair with an adult woman. It now comes out he was still lying and minimising his involvement, as his victim was a 12 year old child over 5 years, and his wife knew, and stood by him. He is disqualified, and should never be allowed to be alone with children again as a safeguard.

[@cathyc1730]

In all my years of going to church, I have never had a pastor. I belonged to churches for 15, 20 years and could never even have a conversation with one. Just a fake handshake and a smile in the foyer while looking around for someone else to shake. The patriarchy always protects the perpetrators and the victims flounder uncared for and shown zero empathy or compassion. God will have the last word.

[@TheNinjapancake14]

Are you going to a different congregation now?

[@ThePossumone]

Ive been very fortunate then - many of my Pastors became my friends

[@elizabethl6763]

Im shocked at the church folk that are defending him saying it was 35 years ago and we should forgive. Of course we should forgive, but forgiveness doesnt require allowing him to continue pastoring a church. Im just at a loss.

[@melissap2703]

I don’t think he’ll ever be a pastor again..

[@shawnalderson9065]

The fact that in his statement, he tries to minimize the scope of what he did down to "inappropriate behavior with a young lady" instead of sexually molesting a pre-teen/teenager in her own home is almost just as bad as what he did.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Definitely shady, think of Shady Grove.

[@MattP-bj8cq]

Is that what he did? I haven’t been able to find anything online that specifically states.

[@stephenbailey9969]

The 'independent pastor' dynamic is insufficient accountability. We all face temptation. Putting any man on a pedestal is a recipe for disaster. That's why the early church had local bodies of elders/overseers (presbyteros/episkopos) to help each other. Steel sharpens steel.

[@TrevWILL79]

I’ve heard from many pastors that your board saves you from yourself

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@TrevWILL79 If the board has that power by the church bylaws. Many of these non-denominational churches seem to let the pastor run the show. May the Lord protect these leaders from temptation.

[@minimalaggie]

The board of elders let him get away with this 35 yrs ago.

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@minimalaggie Yes? Were they of equal authority with him, or his lackeys? Whatever the case, they let the families down.

[@minimalaggie]

@@stephenbailey9969 he was subordinate to them. They failed to do their jobs

[@lionandlamb7663]

Morris is 62 years old. If this happened 35 years ago, he was 27, not early 20s

[@87Hadley]

I think the 35 years ago is when it was brought to attention, when she was like 16 or 17, 4.5 years after it started.... which would still make him like 23 or something. I'm sure more and more details will come to light over the next few weeks or even months. It's sickening, he's a predator and I wouldn't be surprised if he preyed on more females after her.

[@tiffanycollins296]

When it finally came to light, she was nearly 17, and he was 25... which isn't terrible except that it started when she was 11 or 12.

[@nicolealexander9937]

My understanding is it started Christmas of 1982 she turned 13 in January of 1983 he would have been 21 years old when it began so it would have been discovered most likely when he was 26 and she would have been 17 or 18

[@IMOO1896]

“ touch no Gods anointed” doesn’t mean the man is above accountability!

[@ChurchinthewildTX]

He was never anointed.. he just had lots of money..

[@bemoguy]

To " not talk about these things" in my opinion, in tantamount to not lancing a boil, or choosing to ignore a clear cancer diagnosis, hoping that it will go away.

[@HankSemoreButz]

True. But how we talk about these things in public forum puts us in the judgment seat.

[@tagladyify]

We are supposed to judge fruit/ behavior.

[@blazee3895]

@@HankSemoreButzNot if it’s righteous judgment!

[@HankSemoreButz]

@@blazee3895 and there is a process for that as layed out by Paul (prayer included).

[@Jlb1948]

I remember this guy giving a sermon about when he was younger he cheated on his wife. I wonder now if this was the same confession only he left out the fact that she was underage.

[@vh3092]

Exactly.

[@Itsnice2]

Oh he cheated on his wife with multiple people. More than 40 women and more than 70 women.

[@maxflores5988]

Sorry Ruslan, it was not a black-eye on the Gospel. It’s black-eye on man! Shows how far we are from the Gospel, these leaders in the Church falling. It’s a warning to us!

[@QMegaMadeit]

Cheating on your taxes is a moral failure. Calling a 12-year-old a ‘young lady’ is a moral failure. What he did is abominable. Idols are falling. Praying this woman finds peace and that PRM is humbled before God.

[@modistimendoza]

I think you are spot on! Them having her sign an NDA is sooooo concerning

[@grammyb5216]

I’m devastated. This is so heartbreaking 💔 There are so many people who are hurting and suffering in silence. The fallout from this on the Christian community is going to be staggering. I’m praying 🙏

[@williamlincoln866]

How come no one is talking about how the CHURCH LEADERS covered up a dispicable crime?! They should be held criminally responsible for the cover up, even if the statutes have passed for the original crime. Also Morris should have done time. His first ministry should have been a prison one. If he had come out of THAT situation and then founded a church with everyone knowing what he had done, it would be different. Instead? They downplay the severity of what Morris did and they IGNORE the fact that they were complicit in a crime! God help me! This makes me so angry!

[@johnnysaucedaiii8177]

Praying for all of my church family. Thank God for His Mercy and Grace. Time to unite in prayer and rebuke the spirit of division. As a victim of SA, I don’t condone want happened to the victim… but I thank my Heavenly Father for the blood that saves us all. Keep us in prayer. God Bless

[@laurenmay2098]

What he did was criminal at the time and is criminal now. It is shameful to us Christians to say let's forgive and pray about. Think about the victim. She is the one who should be in our prayers, not him. He is bad, very bad.

[@annehunt787]

@@laurenmay2098That’s not scriptural.

[@laurenmay2098]

@annehunt787 Sure it isn't. You are reading Satan's Bible, not the holy scriptures.

[@jennihubby2877]

No. We care! Many of us would not have overlooked this. Had we known. That’s the problem with celebrity pastors, they can hide from the congregation. We left Gateway in 2020 bc we sensed something was off. Done with celebrity CEO pastors. We found a great church with vibrant small group communities. So blessed.

[@theservantbrown]

Power is dangerous… it’s why Jesus rebuked the disciples when they came back rejoicing about the power. He told them to be happy their names are written in heaven.

[@CandidConversationswithKrista]

He is disqualified to be in the pulpit, period. Step down willingly or be removed. God's word is timeless and if applied into our world view today, he is unqualified to remain in this position at the church, regardless of the outcome of the situation between Morris and all others involved.

[@justhearken8106]

But claiming that a 12 year old girl is a "young lady" is in itself....denial.

[@blazee3895]

And an insult to the victim!

[@deaniewhite530]

We have been told that everything will be shaken. That includes the church. This has definitely shaken many of us. I learned from some if his teaching. This whole situation has made an impact on how I view him. I pray for the whole situation. I was a victim of sa also. I suppressed it for many years and it had an impact on my marriage. It wasn't until I got good counseling, that I was healed and able to move on, and my marriage restored. I give Jesus all the credit for my healing.

[@joanmarie3423]

I’m more sickened how he had us doubting our salvation if we were battling sin.

[@gracepeace487]

This is breaking my heart. This affects how outsiders see the church. I’m so tired of it.

[@amylewis4068]

I think us NOT talking about it, is why we are where we’re at…

[@loisannarter725]

Forgiveness is one thing, but no, they should never be put back into a position of leadership in the church ever.

[@ianflanagan209]

This is the result of hyper grace OSAS where people disconnect fear of the Lord from faith in Christ believing that faith is just a mental assent to facts about Jesus Christ and the Bible.

[@alethakenney4195]

From what I’ve heard RM went to work with James Robinson’s Ministry after being off for 1 month. Cindy tried in 2005 for Gateway to listen to her. In Texas there’s no state of limitation!

[@Missionslive]

Facts about s#xual abuse in general and especially in the church. I’m tired of it all. S#xual abuse is never ok at all. No character development at all.

[@CraigBiernbaum]

It’s a whole sub-culture of “protect the church at all costs” and instead of seeing Christ as the head of the body, we see these rock star pastors as the head of the church. The pastor and the church then become one and we are in idolatry. When the idol fails, we have to protect them at all costs or the whole kingdom comes falling down like a house of cards.

[@blazee3895]

Well said!

[@utamu777]

People don't understand that letting the house of cards fall means they can rebuild on a strong foundation. Celebrity pastors are not the precious treasure of the church, Christ and the power of his blood are.

[@CraigBiernbaum]

@@utamu777 Amen

[@dusankakandija7423]

ao very sorry about what happened to you as a child, God bless you and keep you

[@themaccabee8469]

There’s no black eye on the gospel only on human beings… the first thing is we need to stop making pastors celebrities and setting them on a higher pedestal and honoring them like they are God and they are NOT! We are acting like Pagans with a Christian flag it’s fake. We need to make Jesus the first and only celebrity and savior and sovereign not people. These pastors today are so prideful and full of it. This needs to stop! And elders and leaders are corrupt because we don’t stand up to them because we are afraid that we are out of order but we aren’t these men are out of order!

[@blancahuertas3802]

What makes me upset is that they think that therapy will provide justice for the victim. It continues to be supporting the accuser and not helping the victim heal. It’s just always a cover up. Sin is sin and a crime is a crime.

[@awhite55grands]

Final Morris rant: He should’ve been behind bars all this time, not a pulpit!

[@loisannarter725]

Good job Ruslan. Thank you for speaking up.👍🥰

[@ronlewis9374]

Sin does not discriminate, it abounds no matter what denomination.

[@BoldFollower]

Too many stories like this. Men are flawed. Look to Jesus alone. We need community, but Don't idolize people, they are imperfect.

[@aisherwasher6959]

And part of the role of community is to hold each other accountable when those flaws (and crimes) are present

[@FredaL7]

Love your insight Ruslan..especially the king Saul reference. I can tell this shook you to your core, as it should with all of us

[@gmat8202]

We had a similar situation with the leader of a Network of churches. He was caught committing SA with a minor when he was in his 2O's and it was hidden by church leaders and network pastors until it schockingly came to the light a couple of years ago - over 30 years later. Those who exposed the crime/sin were vilified and kicked out of the network, while those who covered it up are "thriving" in large church pastorates. That leader committed a crime as well as sinning against God and man, yet the Network leaders made him a King who was a bully and spiritually abusive during his entire ministry. Did this man NEED to be restored as a pastor? Pretty sure NO. Great analogy, Ruslan.

[@nitatucker7628]

Agree 100%! I'm also survivor of sa... it's so heart wrenching to hear him and his wife blame a 12 yr old. And if you watch a 2014 clip of his sermon where he kinda admits to his sin.. he says there were multiple affairs.. so more than one"young lady" was hurt.. so sad for the Lord's church..😪

[@blazee3895]

He also said, he chose “young ladies” who weren’t protected by their fathers.

[@tiffanycollins296]

​@@blazee3895That's a predatory statement

[@blazee3895]

@@tiffanycollins296 It sure is! He literally “preyed” on them.

[@uofa82]

He HAS NOT walked in accountability for this crime! He never faced the justice system for his crime. There’s more to true restoration for a crime than just repentance. There must be full disclosure and punishment.

[@WintersLighthouse]

Amazing breakdown! I was so triggered by this situation…I appreciate you guys so much!!!

[@rubenvega9885]

I agree man, I’m a reformed, Calvinist, whatever label. But basically a biblicist. And this stuff is of going to grow until men who are willing to take responsibility and have accountability are out in place by God. His timing but we don’t know it so we gotta get after it 💪

[@LIGHTBL0X]

He’s more like Muhhamad than Christ

[@robynlawrence9428]

😂 Broooo, I am sad for the victim though 😢

[@badger77777]

💣🤯

[@angelbarrett4477]

A lot if us wonder if he is truly repentant since he didn't tell us the young lady was 12. We think he should step down or even be locked up. The body of Christ is gonna need some time to process all this mess. But in the meantime, let's not forget to pray and even fast for the body of Christ. This is is a hard blow but we need to strengthen those who are weak in the faith so we sustain minimal loss of souls.

[@k-dawgwestmore4643]

Breaks my heart, man. I used to go to Gateway.

[@mattcahoe8311]

I hope you're doing ok. I know it can be traumatizing to go to a church where God has blessed you and see something like this.

[@loveiseverything...7341]

We have a king Yeshua!!!

[@kristilyn17]

Semantics can’t fix this or make it better. Still not being transparent. He was never qualified to be a pastor after he did this. Such a travesty that he was ever allowed to stand at a pulpit after this! What a disgrace. The elders were fools!

[@josiahselectricgaming1566]

His behavior was criminal and he should have been brought to justice. My issue is that after the crime she said she forgave him. Sounds like she never forgave him at all.

[@JesseStevenPollom]

Thanks for your thoughts Ruslan.

[@charliewhitedirector]

The word is PEDOPHILIA and that doesn’t get fixed with 2 years of counseling🤦🏾‍♀️. We need more honest critical content like this. We should be held to a higher standard!

[@jordiwilliams9082]

24:20 @RuslanKD that’s bcz the office of teacher and pastor are, biblically, two distinct offices. There is not even a single pastor mentioned by name in scripture. Yet we glorify it as the highest ministry in the American church.

[@luisrenta2550]

I absolutely like the way you finish the podcast about the last 10 minutes were perfectly described. You know the sad part is that so many leaders are extremely flawed. Between doctrines and theologies and bad leadership it almost just makes me wanna stay away. That’s the reality and something’s gotta change.

[@Anonymous-fj2uo]

You're so on point with this! My pastor isn't on social media at all, in fact I don't even think he has Wattsapp! Pastors have A LOT of responsibility, and should be held to a high standard! Just as those with a professional healthcare title are held to professional standards, so should pastors. I remember reading something along the lines of 'To whom much is given, much is required".

[@ElenaMethod]

Ruslan, when you said, “it’s like when the Israelites wanted a king” it made me think of how small our faith can be, to believe what we cannot see. So we prop up “man” as “god-figures” to make us believe in God more! When that can be completely harmful to our relationship with God!

[@joelthomas5389]

Thanks for this continuing discussion. Its important and I'm not sure if its being talked about at all. Definitely gave me a new perspective on the issue, also helps for anyone of us in Ministry.

[@rachaelsmith5974]

The spirit of this is what kept me from church for 30 years. All men are created equal and your profession is a choice…no man-made institution is immune from corruption. I pray for ALL the victims of this situation, including the girl, her family, his relatives, and the general onlookers who resist Jesus in response.

[@Gradnaimi]

Morris was so arrogant and callous in what he was doing that he wasn't even afraid to be caught, he was under this little girls families roof. Goodness!

[@littlenewthings2662]

Brother Ruslan, I agree what your points are. Not every motivating speaker can be a pastor; hence in Ephesians 4, Apostle Paul strictly mentioned about the 5 office of ministry: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers were called into. We got to find a way to stop calling all pastoral ministers as pastors because not everyone are shepherds (pastors in particular) so that there is a boundary of expectations from the flock. And yes, there is only one hero: Jesus Christ. We got to stop looking for "King Saul".

[@lauriekline2920]

True same skeletons, different bones, happens everywhere, and now, with the internet perversion, is out of control, the real pandemic

[@CarlosMdz72]

It isn’t moral failure, it is criminal behavior. Also, shame on his parents for not speaking about this and let it be.

[@thinkingtoinfinity]

21:13 "There's not even a probably - it's just straight Biblical." Yeah. How many of these churches and analysts entirely skip the Biblical requirements for leadership?!

[@kwise7]

Not about accountability but rather the love of money to keep the system going and the money coming in. Everything else and anybody is expendable to keep the money coming in Shut it down Close the doors Break it apart

[@Redlighttherapygirl]

This is was not a moral slip up this is criminal behavior

[@deserienelson1842]

It ABSOLUTELY still matters especially from the 12 year old point of view, she's still dealing with it, just like any other SA person.. unfortunately like myself that has been thru it still has to go through healing the rest of our lives. But God is so good to help us heal.. God is faithful ❤

[@jenbrown1362]

God help us!

[@Bdubb23]

James 2:10-11 implies when committing one sin, we break the whole law, not just the one. In saying this, our major figures of the Bible have done horrible things, and God has restored them in our eyes. David with Bathsheba, Solomon with the many foreign women, and Paul persecuted Christians… you learn from their trials every time you read those books. This is not to say someone like Pastor Morris is absolved or cannot be held accountable. Just food for thought when we talk about restoration. It is good that things come to light, God can work through anyone and anything.

[@dahliaherrod4301]

Except David and Solomon didn't do what they were supposed to as leaders after God restored them. Their poor leadership led to the destruction of their family and the nation

[@jarvisbinks7576]

Sexual sin and immorality is a fire separating wheat from chaff. Let it all come to the Light. And we do have aKing. Except He Is The King. And woe to the ones who manipulate and operate in the dark while claiming His Light.

[@michaelnewzealand1888]

Finally someone talking sense and well balance brother. Keep up the good work.

[@dr_that_guy]

I agree that the "CEO Pastor" structure needs to be abolished. I would like to see if the elders of Gateway will step up and remove Robert Morris or if they reveal themselves to just be his yes men. I've have been questioning if the elders we see today are truly acting as elders, or does the senior pastor hold absolute power, even at my previous church.

[@jackelynmclaughlin6040]

My question is Why did her Dad not do anything? Where is her Dad?

[@RuslanKD]

He sorta did. He made him step down from ministry

[@johnherrerap]

Masterful intro brotherman

[@Untidldlifts]

Bruh Ruslan looks like he doesn’t want to even cover this topic. He looks hurt for real.

[@madelincontreras7672]

He committed a crime he is not above the law!

[@THEBOLDWITNESSTV]

These people tarnish the name of Christ. It is literally a crime he commited and they call it a "failure". God still forgives though, but we have a human justice system that must still be fullfiled. 2024 has been a bad year - but good to cleanse the house of God.

[@JillCee]

Ever since I became a Christian in my 20’s, pastors for years in multiple denominations have been talking about sex outside of marriage was kind of an optional choice, from the pulpit and privately. Until pastors start pursuing holiness, nothing is going to change. I am praying for my local pastors. So many churches also nurture a culture of secrecy and cover-up as well, even churches that are not in the spotlight.

[@Drew1218s]

Sex outside of marriage is definitely an option you can choose but that doesn’t make it right. The Bible clearly talks about sex before marriage being a sin.

[@JillCee]

@@Drew1218s They were teaching and talking like there were no consequences to it though. Zero mention of what scripture says. Especially confusing when I was a new Christian.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

Fortunately, for me, I have never heard a pastor in private or publicly say that premarital sex was OK because if I did, I would walk away from that person and that church and a heartbeat because they’re literally contradicting the words of Christ. If they don’t follow the Bible, it is because they don’t follow God. No one loves God and dosent love his word(Bible-you know the books out of which the world will be judged. And the books were opened…)

[@JillCee]

@@SeanEustace-zk3mc I didn’t find a local church who would take a stand against it for over 30 years. Just found one last year. That is where I am going now.

[@strayboogie5833]

Remember that David sinned and also had the Holy Spirit. Being saved doesn't equate to sinless it just means you sin less.

[@TheRriley7]

David was a King and not a pastor or priest. The sword never left his home because of having Bathsheba’s husband Uriah killed. . .

[@Arockstuckinthedirt]

Please talk about Corpus Christi Chi Alpha director who SA a family member for 7 years since they were 9. He was arrested and got zero jail time. Will Robinson… also connected to a wider scandal in Chi Alpha involving Daniel Savala and many leaders along with leadership in the Assemblies of God. Please please please cover this! Julie Roy’s has multiple articles on it.