Gateway Elder apologizes to congregation for Robert Morris scandal

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Julie Roys

Julie Roys

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Gateway Elder Tra Willbanks apologizes to the alleged victim of Robert Morris and the congregation for the child abuse scandal involving Morris on June 22, 2024.
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@ShalomUSA
@ShalomUSA 3 ай бұрын
No one can apologize for another persons actions. Period.
@ddrules9294
@ddrules9294 3 ай бұрын
@@ShalomUSA the church is responsible because the elders should immediately remove evil from the pulpit
@ignitedfw
@ignitedfw 3 ай бұрын
He was apologizing for the elders role not Morris.
@MarthaMcCain
@MarthaMcCain 3 ай бұрын
Apparently he is now in hiding, I think he is remorseful as if his daughters could have been in this situation.
@Clothed-with-His-Glory
@Clothed-with-His-Glory 3 ай бұрын
He didn’t because he should never set foot on the platform again.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 2 ай бұрын
Yes, they can. That's kind of how authority works. Parents apologize for their kids; managers apologize for their employees; commanders apologize for their subordinates; God-With-Us apologizes for his creation's sin. It is called taking responsibility, yet it must be paired with disciplinary action or else be in vain.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
To many churches want a pastor with charisma more then a man with integrity.😢
@LikeALLdamnDay
@LikeALLdamnDay 3 ай бұрын
And a leader in general.. look at MAGA… 🤷🏻‍♀️
@bill2066
@bill2066 3 ай бұрын
yes, the big elephant in the room, that everyone is ignoring, is that morris was also one of those prosperity Preachers, and has duped millions out of people. Like Hinn, Copeland, Osteen and all the rest of them
@faeljeri5139
@faeljeri5139 3 ай бұрын
That’s true and that’s why all this is happening. The religious system is so wrong!!
@barbaracurrie3187
@barbaracurrie3187 3 ай бұрын
You are so spot on!
@bibsy1234
@bibsy1234 3 ай бұрын
Has RM been doing this act still?Or is this fron he was youngster?
@prayerwarriorterri6242
@prayerwarriorterri6242 3 ай бұрын
Everyone needs to read their bibles. It's the only way you will make it through the coming times. Keep your eyes on the Lord.
@siphokaziluzipho4197
@siphokaziluzipho4197 3 ай бұрын
It's becoming evident the Christian journey is personal. We should look only to Christ. This man, and the elders who knew failed their church. This would have remained a secret had Cindy not had the courage to fight. The church should only pray she is the only victim.
@prayerwarriorterri6242
@prayerwarriorterri6242 3 ай бұрын
I also pray there are no other victims. I was a victim from sa from a family member. It started at age 5. I never said anything to anyone until I was in my 40s. My prayers are with anyone who suffers sa.
@skeetabomb
@skeetabomb 3 ай бұрын
@@prayerwarriorterri6242 That's terrible to hear. I'm very sorry this happened to you. I hope you have been able to find healing and move on. We can only look to Christ. He is the only one who can save us in the end.
@prayerwarriorterri6242
@prayerwarriorterri6242 3 ай бұрын
Amen! God is my healer and my strength.
@michellelewis6914
@michellelewis6914 3 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Cindy’s Father was clergy too! Not Excusing RM abuse but I’m wondering what stopped Cindy’s Father from pressing charges against RM?
@PattiEmminger
@PattiEmminger 3 ай бұрын
It should be Robert Morris publicly apologizing to God, Cindy, the church, the public and EVERYONE else he deceived. Period.
@rogerhernandez9675
@rogerhernandez9675 3 ай бұрын
I agree 100% still waiting
@ChangingTides777
@ChangingTides777 3 ай бұрын
Very true.
@laurenmay2098
@laurenmay2098 3 ай бұрын
I would be like that pastor caught with a prostitute. He cried like a baby. Lost everything, and his name was in the mud. This is only to repair for tv and membership sake. They know people will stop sending money. They are just trying to stop the fire that already reached the ceiling, unfortunately.
@Keepitoriginalministry
@Keepitoriginalministry 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@michelleselby122
@michelleselby122 3 ай бұрын
I do also agree
@leroyng
@leroyng 3 ай бұрын
The whole board of elders should stand with him on the stage to apologize.
@kingswaydaughter7324
@kingswaydaughter7324 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely…..but it is possible this was not a secret to everyone.
@scottnmarj
@scottnmarj 3 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely, this guy was not there when Cindy sent the letter . Why are the elders being cowards, The whole thing is sickening .
@RhondaMartin-gs3rx
@RhondaMartin-gs3rx 3 ай бұрын
And they should all resign too.
@Vickyv4Jesus
@Vickyv4Jesus 3 ай бұрын
The elders that hid the secret, need to step down, covered up, just as guilty in sin.....
@salt1956
@salt1956 3 ай бұрын
If the elders knew, they should resign. How on earth did his wife stay with him learning he abused a child for over 4 years while married to her?
@mitsu-tg8qx
@mitsu-tg8qx 3 ай бұрын
Cindy’s father should have told the police when it all came out when she was 16.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
Unless there wasn't any actual crime. It's possible she might have been the aggressor.
@mitsu-tg8qx
@mitsu-tg8qx 3 ай бұрын
He admitted to it!
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 3 ай бұрын
@@mattk6719A 12 year old girl?!! use your brain for something besides a seat cushion
@1Corinthians2.2
@1Corinthians2.2 3 ай бұрын
@@mitsu-tg8qx12 year old girl aggressor against a grown man??? WAKE UP!!!
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 3 ай бұрын
@@mattk6719 I'm wondering how her parents or Debbie did not know she was sneaking into the room Robert was in. For 4 and a half years? I'm sure Debbie slept with him most of the time but still. I don't get it.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
One big embarrassment. This kind of stuff is why many unsaved souls think christianity is a joke.
@AS-oj3cw
@AS-oj3cw 3 ай бұрын
I do wonder how many hearts he has now hardened for the last time and they will now spend eternity in hell.
@fitrunner1317
@fitrunner1317 3 ай бұрын
Indeed! It’s misrepresentation of who God is who Jesus is and the true gospel. So we must pray and be the light
@LikeALLdamnDay
@LikeALLdamnDay 3 ай бұрын
@@AS-oj3cw we are warned about these very heretics throughout the bible. A perfect example of those we have been instructed to avoid is MAGA. Stirrers of doubt and controversy in our communities, the Ones Who Preach The Loudest. How many have turned away from the gates of heaven because of their convoluted example of how to live by Gods word? God will not look kindly upon them during theirJudgement. This makes me so so so angry. And i rememberChrist in the temple, turning over tables and asking His Father for guidance in how to process his rage. How….? Indeed….
@nezlquasie
@nezlquasie 3 ай бұрын
JESUS IS KING
@rhondar828
@rhondar828 3 ай бұрын
Sadly, you are correct😢
@TinaDaSilva7
@TinaDaSilva7 3 ай бұрын
If he’s shocked and truly filled with remorse, why wasn’t Pastor Morris fired ??? he was allowed to resign…
@susanma3483
@susanma3483 3 ай бұрын
Maybe they were in disbelief. Either way he won't be pastoring again. It was shocking to see such poor judgment on Robert and Debbie's part. May God heal everyone involved.
@mesquitegirl2013
@mesquitegirl2013 3 ай бұрын
@JesusFollower1960 because sadly since the statue of limitation had passed on Cindy‘s case currently, I don’t think there’s anything they can do because there’s no part of the child laws in Texas that allow them to be able to try somebody for something that happened years ago, especially once the statue of limitations was passed which I think they said at the time the abuse started the statue of limitations in Texas and Oklahoma where she grew up with two years. I don’t know why her or anybody else that found out about it immediately report him to the police probably because they were afraid of his position and what he might try to do if they did, according to Cindy, her dad had given an ultimatum either resign or I’m calling the police or the sheriff. I think it was actually what was said. I wouldn’t have given an ultimatum. I would’ve immediately called the police, especially when my child safety and well-being is being violated and abused shouldn’t have been in abuse
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration 3 ай бұрын
The incident was happened before Gateway church was established.
@ChangingTides777
@ChangingTides777 3 ай бұрын
You can't fire someone who quits first. This is true at McDonald's, too.
@lisamayo7657
@lisamayo7657 3 ай бұрын
They say they didnt know it was a child. 🤷‍♀️ Did he resign b4 they could fire him? 🤷‍♀️.....the statue of limitations are up for criminal prosecution. I dont think (whether child or adult) he should have been restored to pastorialship
@joycewolf3920
@joycewolf3920 3 ай бұрын
Having served in the church for many years as a woman in ministry, I can tell you that at this point there is a church full of people who have been wounded. This is not about damage control for the media, social or otherwise. This is about the remaining leadership trying their best to bring hope to this congregation at a very dark time. The reminder that God has worked in and through the people is still truth. It is still God’s church. He hasn’t changed His mind about the people and the demonstration of the Gospel they have carried out for years. Instead of the criticism, consider and PRAY for this congregation and the future of the ministry that God has given them!
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
Well said. The first comment I've read that hasn't jumped to conclusions and casted stones. There are no sinless pastors.
@evirgil84
@evirgil84 3 ай бұрын
Amen!
@elohim7778
@elohim7778 3 ай бұрын
We are all sinful people in need of God's grace and mercy. My family in not perfect either. We are all work in progress. Having said this, I still believe that we must have the fear of God residing strongly and firmly in us. Fear of God equals obedience to Him and His ways. Easier said than done, I know. Weave God in our daily moments. In our standing, sitting, talking, relaxing, resting etc. In all aspects of our lives. God sees our hearts and He will act on our behalf. Life is filled with ups and downs but we have our good God to turn to in times of needs. Amen.❤❤❤ Pray unceasingly for your church leaders. To cover them from subtle attacks of the evil one. God bless all of you richly.😊
@Littledove-mw1ed
@Littledove-mw1ed 3 ай бұрын
God Bless you Joyce Wolf, this was a wonderful insightful, utterly inspired comment! Thank you Dear One--fellow servant of the most high God😊❤❤❤
@Littledove-mw1ed
@Littledove-mw1ed 3 ай бұрын
​@elohim7778 Thank you, God Bless you too Dear One❤
@redeemedbygodsgrace1971
@redeemedbygodsgrace1971 3 ай бұрын
It is so evident that Abba Father is exposing & cleansing His church! 🙏👆✝️👆🙏
@LG-br3fe
@LG-br3fe 3 ай бұрын
Judgement begins in the house of God. Search me oh God and see if there be any wicked way in me and lead me in the path everlasting. The fear of God is needed in the church. I pray for healing for all involved.
@Runner8617
@Runner8617 3 ай бұрын
I don't see any cleansing being done, that church is still FILLED to the brim with 🐑 and the Morris's are filthy rich off those 🐑. But God is definitely exposing it all, that's for sure.
@OGRTVFan
@OGRTVFan 3 ай бұрын
How so?
@MarthaMcCain
@MarthaMcCain 3 ай бұрын
This has certainly sparked women all over the world to begin to come forward. I used to attend Gateway Church and I left because of the doctrine that Robert Morris preached on an Easter Sunday. But now the latest scandal of RM, I am soooooo disappointed with his actions. God is cleaning his church.
@daliamontoya2783
@daliamontoya2783 2 ай бұрын
Amen
@Irbyfamily1988
@Irbyfamily1988 3 ай бұрын
Why would the newer elders be held responsible for something they did NOT know?? It’s the ones from early on who hold responsibility.
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 3 ай бұрын
It happened before the church existed. What would they be responsible for? Please make rational sense.
@mikem591
@mikem591 3 ай бұрын
I agree. They send someone out there, who is a new elder, to do their dirty work.
@sharonclark4343
@sharonclark4343 3 ай бұрын
One thing that has become apparent to me, is that when he did confess initially to having an affair with a young lady, regardless of who it was, the elders should have always have investigated from the other side. They never even asked to know who the young lady was. If she wasn’t underage, it would be worth reaching out to her in any case.
@moniquewrites9046
@moniquewrites9046 3 ай бұрын
He’s the only one who had no idea and had clean hands? A theory.
@sylvia4alvarez
@sylvia4alvarez 3 ай бұрын
Look people. They did have a meeting with the father and this woman who is coming forth now. This has not being a secret. She wants to be compensated and should be.
@Linda-ot3pj
@Linda-ot3pj 3 ай бұрын
Robert Morris taught me some things I will never forget. I pray for him. He is our brother and I’m sure he is hurting There are dark places that we all came from, and places that were dark and unregenerated. It took time for our crooked ways to be made straight .
@jamesmaina9041
@jamesmaina9041 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately in this case RM has never been truthful of the whole incident but he's been lying about the victim and accusing her of seducing him. He needs to truthfully repent for his vile acts for his own soul's sake
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesmaina9041 where did he say she seduced him? I would like to view that too
@trinawms3749
@trinawms3749 3 ай бұрын
Preach this
@nanzirirhene1128
@nanzirirhene1128 3 ай бұрын
Agree with you
@samvijaysenan
@samvijaysenan 3 ай бұрын
We need to tell the truth..truth has come out...but we have to pray for Pastor Robert ..God in his mercy used him to build the church.. He is paying for his consequences. It's time to pray for all who are hurting.
@timothystandley8777
@timothystandley8777 3 ай бұрын
We were told not to follow man,this apology needs to come from The man that has deceived the sheep.
@laura-cg7vl
@laura-cg7vl 3 ай бұрын
This is the elder leadership addressing the sin and crime as well they should. Although RM should also publicly do this the elders also need to as this man is. The elder board should be THE senior leadership over the entire staff and body.
@brendaburton392
@brendaburton392 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@emelinabrincat9071
@emelinabrincat9071 3 ай бұрын
Cowards and liars are not capable of repenting.
@lovethegrandkids3732
@lovethegrandkids3732 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t allow him back on the stage at this point
@jmspegel
@jmspegel 3 ай бұрын
If he truly has repented and now has Jesus in his heart, is this how Jesus wants us to behave?
@KelliHilario
@KelliHilario 3 ай бұрын
Was he allowed to resign so that he could keep his 401K and controlling interest? There are legal reasons for resignation instead of termination. Usually financial in nature.
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 3 ай бұрын
Bingo
@Steadfast_Steady_Strong
@Steadfast_Steady_Strong 3 ай бұрын
I’d be interested to know if he resigned before they had a chance to fire him.
@JanisBoyd-u1s
@JanisBoyd-u1s 3 ай бұрын
Send an older elder next Sunday, please.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. He won't lose his benefits.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
We knew of a pastor many years ago that was in a denomination for years. He just took off with his then girlfriend, went to another state and married her. He literally abandoned the church. There were other issues as well. He was retirement age. A few people from the church went to the state headquarters to let them know what had happened. They went ahead and gave the man his retirement benefits. But as far as I know he was not in ministry anymore. The girlfriend he married ended up having the marriage annulled a couple of weeks after they married. I don't know why?
@duncancassie7747
@duncancassie7747 3 ай бұрын
Trust God when you pray it works. He said all we need to do is ask in prayers. My testimony spans from penury to $57,000 monthly, and you stay and doubt that he doesn't answer prayers. Make that altar now and spend time there. A change is in the way. Amen!!!
@ayafakiri
@ayafakiri 3 ай бұрын
I definitely know this fosho! Prayer works wonders
@sabrinalysa
@sabrinalysa 3 ай бұрын
In Christ alone my hope is built and anchored. I am a work in progress and in due time he makes everything beautiful
@sabrinalysa
@sabrinalysa 3 ай бұрын
But hold on, how do you get all that in that period of time? Mind sharing?
@duncancassie7747
@duncancassie7747 3 ай бұрын
Oh yes! In him alone
@duncancassie7747
@duncancassie7747 3 ай бұрын
And thanks to the digital market. So much folks are getting the good side of it
@rhondaschraub771
@rhondaschraub771 3 ай бұрын
Morris’s son should not take over as pastor. Robert would still have his ear. Your church should be allowed to vote on their next pastor.
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 3 ай бұрын
What is it with pastors passing over the church to their offsprings like it’s their kingdom?
@Chuck-qi8pw
@Chuck-qi8pw 3 ай бұрын
Church members will make the final decision.
@graniteguy8410
@graniteguy8410 3 ай бұрын
He acts like he's a KING
@kevinjones6440
@kevinjones6440 3 ай бұрын
To keep the money in the family.
@christieprince6991
@christieprince6991 3 ай бұрын
I think he founded the Church and the Lead General overseer
@elizabethhernandez1964
@elizabethhernandez1964 3 ай бұрын
She was a kid no excuse ……
@suzanneosteen1285
@suzanneosteen1285 3 ай бұрын
Morris is a pedophil and needs to be held accountable for his crimes!
@digitalwasabi2
@digitalwasabi2 3 ай бұрын
He has the gift of crying without shedding a single tear.
@cheryla786
@cheryla786 3 ай бұрын
He is only concerned about HIS financial position now within the Church. His prepared speech is so non-believable. Alarms went off when some of his first words were..... I didn't know......they all KNEW, but no one was strong enough to speak up and question the situation and say WHAT YOU DID WAS WRONG. No one ever thought this would happen and they felt they were safe covering up the truth.
@ShelovesJesusandElvis
@ShelovesJesusandElvis 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes you can’t cry tears ! 😭 I personally couldn’t cry at certain points in my life. It was worse!! I wanted to but the tears wouldn’t come till later! Please stop judging!!
@ShelovesJesusandElvis
@ShelovesJesusandElvis 3 ай бұрын
@@cheryla786 I believe they didn’t know !! They SHOULD HAVE but they trusted him. !! 😢. Same as everyone who ever watched him or followed him! ❤.
@r.fortner4661
@r.fortner4661 3 ай бұрын
@@ShelovesJesusandElvis she asked the church for money to pay for her psychological counciling. They offered to pay only half of what she asked and also asked her to sign an NDA!!!
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 3 ай бұрын
He has tears. Zoom in.
@kevinharris3993
@kevinharris3993 3 ай бұрын
Robert Morris should have addressed the church. Morris should have been fired and an outside committee should name the successor because if Morris son takes over the church, Morris continues to have influence regarding the church. The Elders supported Morris even when Cindy informed them she was only 12 and Morris was 20. It was only after the story hit mainstream media that the Elders claimed they didn't know all the facts. I am praying for restoration for all parties involved including Morris because it would be shameful for Morris to go to hell for unrepentant sins. God is giving Morris a chance to really repent and stop lying. Morris and his wife owe Cindy an apology. I am really praying for the church because they have been lied to for over 35 years by Morris and the Elders. I don't believe some of those Elders didn't know the truth. Why did the Elders release a statement supporting Morris once Christian Post published the article that Cindy was only 12? The church doesn't need tears from Elders. The church for once and for all needs the truth. Morris isn't the only person that needs to repent
@elizabethcurylo6158
@elizabethcurylo6158 3 ай бұрын
Yes I agree what you wrote ! I feel this same ! I have been believer for 40 years and I left Gateway 3 years ago but went to Shabat on Friday nights there ! Praying for full repentance and his son shouldn’t pastor Gateway ! He needs to open his own church if God is calling him to do that !
@BbCc-uf8fu
@BbCc-uf8fu 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinharris3993 they can’t Handle the truth becuse they really are Chris- Islam. 12 year is perfect age for an annointed married preacher to have cucúbine. He is practicing Christ Islam so did victims family needed to go to cops. Oh no they too were Chris- Islam where father makes the decision on behalf of 12 year old who had been sex toy for married man and molested for over 4 years damn people are Chris Islam
@stjohnbaby
@stjohnbaby 3 ай бұрын
This is/was a criminal act.
@michaelratcliff3080
@michaelratcliff3080 3 ай бұрын
You know, I think the thing with Pastor Robert is I’m just grieved. And I don’t wanna hear what anybody else has to say. I want to know what he hast to say. Because using the discernment I’ve had, Pastor Robert speaks truth and knows Jesus. I want to know what Pastor Robert has to say and what God has to say, but I will not be distracted by what the media and everybody else is saying.
@stephm5877
@stephm5877 3 ай бұрын
So as long as someone teaches truth, they can sexually assualt little girls? Is that your narrative? Demons know the Bible. We're supposed to discern spirits via fruit. You dismissing his behavior is part of the problem. A man of God would be righteously angry and want justice.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration 3 ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration 3 ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@therisenteam3054
@therisenteam3054 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelratcliff3080it’s that attitude that got Gateway into this mess. Morris has had blatant serious issues for a long time, theologically and spiritually. You got to open your eyes to see it!
@sashajames3991
@sashajames3991 3 ай бұрын
“Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap. “1 Tim 3:1-7.
@oliver0656
@oliver0656 2 ай бұрын
Religion is the antithesis of Christ's word. It is the perversion of Christ's word and it has been the reason for many wars throughout history. Christians are being aligned because of the utter hypocrisy on display on so many fronts this man sounds phony. His tears sound forced
@godshealed9093
@godshealed9093 3 ай бұрын
Wow! So many people on here are so judgemental!So many caddy and ungodly comments. You wont be happy til you have blood from Robert Morris. God is the judge and knows the true intentions of a man's heart. I dont attend Gateway but I'm sure similar situations occur at large and small churches. This is a terrible thing that has occurred and this Lady named Cindy, the victim has suffered dearly and needs healing and whatever else that might help her, but as born-again believers in Christ, we are to pray ernestly for all involved, not condemn each other. If jail time is what is needed for Robert Morris, then God knows that. Guard your tongue people and watch what you say. The devil is definitely in the details and he's having a field day with this, dont give him anymore.
@LH-ot5rk
@LH-ot5rk 3 ай бұрын
I think you mean “catty”. 🙄
@djpeeler2912
@djpeeler2912 3 ай бұрын
I came to realize that God's justice is restorative, not retributive in the manner that Man's is. Can both the perpetrator and the victim be restored?
@srae9902
@srae9902 3 ай бұрын
Robert Morris was disqualified from ever preaching/teaching again. Believers follow God and His Word not a man. Belivers are called to judge righteously other Believers or those that claim to be ones.
@lilit384
@lilit384 3 ай бұрын
I suggest you o back and study your Bible because it clearly instructs us on how to deal with 🐺 like Morris.
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 3 ай бұрын
God is the ultimate judge but He also commanded us to judge each other’s actions. In fact Paul told us to rebuke elders that are in sin PUBLICLY
@Michele-q9j
@Michele-q9j 3 ай бұрын
But the church knew he had engaged in sexual misconduct and they let it slide. They are equally culpable.
@michellemiller347
@michellemiller347 3 ай бұрын
Their sexual misconduct, and then there’s pedophilia the church was not aware of the age of Cindy. They were told she was a young woman and had a Jezebel spirit and was flirtatious. They were very unaware that this was a minor should have been fired. Should be in jail yesthere are plenty of people and plenty of pastors who have committed adultery bat pedophilia I don’t think you should have a place in ministry
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration 3 ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@Cwood79
@Cwood79 3 ай бұрын
How do you know they let it slide?
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 3 ай бұрын
Culpable for an act that occurred before the church existed?
@patriciawright1371
@patriciawright1371 3 ай бұрын
According to what I'm hearing, this man and others are saying. They knew he committed an immoral act but did not know it was a child.
@brendaclark8053
@brendaclark8053 3 ай бұрын
WOW judgment is beginning at the house of God 😊 No more hiding behind the Church
@nikkistinson6322
@nikkistinson6322 3 ай бұрын
To the last guy....PETER was being persecuted! Oh my goodness . NOT the same kind of " trouble" your pastor is in.
@laurenmay2098
@laurenmay2098 3 ай бұрын
​@MrAlissahk97 I think he is 62. I can't imagine how many more, but he sure didn't stop it at one.
@giftyadu7569
@giftyadu7569 3 ай бұрын
You are spot on !!! Always twisting the word of God to manipulate the sheep! Seriously, I pray more exposure of ALL hidden things, a deep cleansing and fir this deception to end!!
@katethielmann4244
@katethielmann4244 3 ай бұрын
You are missing the point. Morris groomed and poked and prodded a child from age 12 to 16. That is a crime. CRIME. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE OUTRAGED. The hypocrisy.
@marcelguerrero9957
@marcelguerrero9957 3 ай бұрын
And they can knock it off with the music. Just going along like it's business as usual. As if we are praying for someone who may have lost a job or received a cancer diagnosis.
@Runner8617
@Runner8617 3 ай бұрын
This whole "church" is a JOKE! And the fact that it is still filled with so many people?! 🤦🤷
@greeneggslamb9336
@greeneggslamb9336 3 ай бұрын
Most High, be with this church Family. 🙏🏾💜
@maxmoore2076
@maxmoore2076 3 ай бұрын
None of this rings true. Crocodile tears why did no one ask some searching questions that establish the facts?
@BarbaraMorin-nk2kz
@BarbaraMorin-nk2kz 3 ай бұрын
Once Elders knew he committed adultery with a "Young Lady," they should have disqualified Robert Morris from preaching. They are complicit. Lord, help the victims of this horror!
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
She wasn't a young lady. She was a child. A young lady is someone at least 18 or above who is young.
@margaretsmith1507
@margaretsmith1507 3 ай бұрын
The first question I would have asked is "How old was the young lady?" I believe they asked, too.
@Ronpaulians
@Ronpaulians 3 ай бұрын
Agree. Predators' enablers always start with "It's the hardest thing for me". I don't believe this elder. As a survivor of a long chain of crimes and abuses in 2 evangelical churches, I am 100% sure that you had seen many predatory behaviours in that wolf and he always used scriptures to excuse them and that all his previous victims of his greed, verbal abuse, etc, were despised. This kind of predators do not work alone.
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 3 ай бұрын
He would have been 20/21 when he would have had the affair with a “young” lady. Not sure whether people would say who was it with, when they understood the Elder board at his prior church (Shady Grove) had already dealt with the restoration process…
@dawnzimmerman6818
@dawnzimmerman6818 3 ай бұрын
@@joshuajacobs5691- and married with a young son in 1982 when it all started!!
@valeriethomas4168
@valeriethomas4168 3 ай бұрын
That was the most insincere display of emotion I have ever seen!
@Mutasis_Mutandis
@Mutasis_Mutandis 3 ай бұрын
Agree!
@SandraLira-gq8oj
@SandraLira-gq8oj 3 ай бұрын
And the Academy Award for lousiest actor goes to: The Clown on stage yaking.
@cythera431
@cythera431 3 күн бұрын
That is why nothing will change at Gateway. I feel sorry for Elder Willbanks's daughters.
@11bbqbob
@11bbqbob 3 ай бұрын
Aside from the egregious act, which I am not discounting, it's sad to see all the people that are in attendance there. People, it's time to get out of Dodge!!! The Law firm was hired to protect their backside - WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!
@dudeinrok1
@dudeinrok1 3 ай бұрын
This is amazing…. He’s emotional, yet still talking about the priority of building Gateway Church!!! This talk is like a TED talk. It’s all about their church, not even appealing to The LORD Jesus Christ for mercy and His forgiveness on their church or church staff…. What an act! And the emotional music in the background of the second speech. Total manipulation of the church members. Take your eyes off of the tragic events of the victims, and make the church pastor and staff the center of focus….”FEEL SORRY FOR US… WE LOOK STUPID AND COLD AND HEARTLESS AS WE TALK TO YOU!!!! …. FEEL SORRY FOR US, THE STAFF AND LEADERS OF GATEWAYS CHURCH!!!” This is awful. All the congregation should walk out and find a true biblical church to attend.
@Runner8617
@Runner8617 3 ай бұрын
Notice how he's trying so hard to avoid eye contact and looking up at the audience? A sign or guilt, and lying?
@MH-yk2gy
@MH-yk2gy 3 ай бұрын
They knew about Cindy for years but covered it up. She brought this to their attention over a decade ago.
@nanzirirhene1128
@nanzirirhene1128 3 ай бұрын
He talked about God and Jesus the owner of the church. Don't listen and watch with an objective to criticize. He is doing the right thing
@jolewis2057
@jolewis2057 3 ай бұрын
Katt Williams was right about these false prophets. The reason why these so-called pastors' gross behaviors contues is because their congregation allows and make excuses for these false prophets. My faith is in God, not man. This man has sniffled and cried with no tears🤔
@jld4870
@jld4870 3 ай бұрын
Right on…Not I (man) but Christ!
@kelliem1562
@kelliem1562 3 ай бұрын
He was actually prophetic in Holy Spirit and all these you know would not have received that Word from someone like Katt. I think how great God will use who He wants to show up the wicked.
@jolewis2057
@jolewis2057 3 ай бұрын
@kelliem1562 Again, my faith is in God, and not man, especially those prosperity pastors who think that they are about all else because they anoint themselves as such.
@roberts4587
@roberts4587 3 ай бұрын
But Kat Williams is a sinner himself… he doesn’t know CHRIST and what he says isn’t of GOD.
@kathysheppeard2178
@kathysheppeard2178 3 ай бұрын
There are girls that have gotten married at 13 and 14 years old. Maybe she liked it and was in on it because she liked him and had crush on him. They don't even know what really happened yet. Wasn't that like 30 years ago?
@ccak1121
@ccak1121 3 ай бұрын
They all played dumb for money!!!😢
@daliamontoya2783
@daliamontoya2783 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@vee10403
@vee10403 3 ай бұрын
As a former Gateway member, I hope people will realize that this church is full of people who love the Lord regardless of these leaders twisting scripture. Unfortunately you now have Jimmy Evans blessing a man’s divorce to marry the new widow Joni Lamb, and Robert Morris twisting words such as “young lady” to talk about sin, Etc. Think what you may about these leaders, but there are real families here that could sure use our prayers. That’s what I will be doing 🙏🏻
@debsad7500
@debsad7500 3 ай бұрын
Well said.
@lilit384
@lilit384 3 ай бұрын
I agree. I was caught up in a false church for years. The members of Gateway must pull away, become Berean’s, gain courage, and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and stop suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.
@saintbees2088
@saintbees2088 3 ай бұрын
Gateway members may learn that they need to think for themselves.
@graniteguy8410
@graniteguy8410 3 ай бұрын
Joni Lamb I can't watch anymore
@reedermh
@reedermh 3 ай бұрын
I haven't heard this about Evans. What is the story on this?
@jeneseholbert9536
@jeneseholbert9536 3 ай бұрын
Robert Morris needs to be in jail and get no financial gain no 401 k nothing and his wife to. She knew and called that little girl and told her she forgave her. It's sick
@mesquitegirl2013
@mesquitegirl2013 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, that probably won’t happen because of statue limitations I’ve seen lawyers being being interviewed in other videos saying that at the time the abuse was happening both in Oklahoma and the state of Texas the statue of limitations was like two years now laws have changed, but there’s nothing that would allow you to try somebody for something that happened years ago relating to child abuse my thing is why didn’t anybody reported immediately once they found outthey were afraid that my child would’ve immediately once she told me or I found gone to the police
@bibsy1234
@bibsy1234 3 ай бұрын
It is sad but let a man without sin cast the stone. RM has done a terrible act but there is redemption for everyone of us as long as we repent of our wrong doings. RM is like any other man on the face of the earth that sin. So let us not be vile in our judgment. Temper sin with forgiveness Christ has demonstrated it in His walk.
@Sherry-v2w
@Sherry-v2w 3 ай бұрын
He’s an unrepentant liar. In 2005 the elders knew.
@brendaburton392
@brendaburton392 3 ай бұрын
Yesss. The wife covered for him. God does not approve this . He calls for repentance with accountability and consequences.
@bobbiejoyce1402
@bobbiejoyce1402 3 ай бұрын
You might want to get your facts straight before commenting. Robert Morris did commit sexual child abuse and should face the consequences.
@jewelzinbox
@jewelzinbox 3 ай бұрын
There are so many things wrong with this. It's clear, the body of Christ doesn't understand The Cross.
@lindatheodorou389
@lindatheodorou389 3 ай бұрын
RM needs to be arrested.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
Why?
@lindatheodorou389
@lindatheodorou389 3 ай бұрын
@mattk6719 Slashing Mica's tyres. In some countries, that is classed as attempt of causing bodily harm to another.
@cythera431
@cythera431 3 күн бұрын
In prison Morris will be on the receiving end of the sexual abuse.
@pamelaeason1982
@pamelaeason1982 3 ай бұрын
No tears. The sniffles were dry. Not saying he isn't hurting but ple5 please don't fake emotions. That didn't help at all
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 3 ай бұрын
they all did their performance and were back at robts cushy $6 million dollar estate having lunch and brainstorming after the service. This is business NOT heart... there's $millions at stake here. I'd have found another church for sunday myself.
@batatasol8540
@batatasol8540 3 ай бұрын
No more Morrises to lead the church! The elders need to hire a new senior pastor who is not one of Robert Morris's sons!!
@angelbarrett4477
@angelbarrett4477 3 ай бұрын
I understand not wanting the sons to be in leadership. But please don't be mean to them. The kids and grandkids had nothing to do with Robert's sins and crimes.
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 3 ай бұрын
@@angelbarrett4477 um...this stuff gets passed down generationally..the fathers sins curse generations...yes, God can individually break the curse for us.
@vedosafie2831
@vedosafie2831 3 ай бұрын
As sad as it looks. God used this man to bless many.Its time to support each other, and stop throwing stones, which one of us without sin.God is merciful. He must face the consequences. It's time we pray for all our leaders.Keep our eyes on Jesus, and keep PRAYING for our church leaders.
@1my2boys
@1my2boys 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@briancana4855
@briancana4855 3 ай бұрын
Amen
@user-CBijou
@user-CBijou 3 ай бұрын
Yes!! Absolutely the truth!
@patrickshing9206
@patrickshing9206 3 ай бұрын
The whole leadership should step down.
@SurprisedBirdBath-xy8kc
@SurprisedBirdBath-xy8kc Ай бұрын
It's easy to say then doing.
@pamhollett6382
@pamhollett6382 3 ай бұрын
These elders are just as guilty as Robert Morris covering for Robert all this time is despicable!!!!
@TheRriley7
@TheRriley7 3 ай бұрын
He may have been in the dark. He’s only been an elder for 10 years.
@lissieRiv
@lissieRiv 3 ай бұрын
The elders had no clue! They are all shocked. All they knew was that Robert had immoral behavior. in the past.
@LyndaCavener
@LyndaCavener 3 ай бұрын
They did know follow the Justin Peters Ministries.
@aliwatters8111
@aliwatters8111 3 ай бұрын
​@@lissieRivWrong. They made him an elder at the age of 29, 3 years after their knowledge of the abuse- allowing a predator of children (a pedophile) to "minister" congregations for years. Police were not involved. They protected him, further abusing the victim. They ARE complicit.
@ThePreachingOfHisWord
@ThePreachingOfHisWord 3 ай бұрын
They were under Robert's false prosperity teaching. Money is all they care about. They have failed as a church.
@ricksarmiento201
@ricksarmiento201 3 ай бұрын
My wife and I both had one word for this...pathetic. This guy...crocodile tears and a bunch of banter about their commitment to truth.....as if we are all that naive. Shame on you all...elders...elders of what? Being complicent in this entire mess.
@nellyorr304
@nellyorr304 3 ай бұрын
Agree!!!
@mrnice111
@mrnice111 2 ай бұрын
Yep. Bunch of losers worried their rain maker is gone.
@tommihail2178
@tommihail2178 3 ай бұрын
Why is it necessary to use an independent law firm considered Robert Morris has resigned or is there far more ti come out of Roberts child grooming days? If Cindy is pursuing legal action it just may open the floodgates for other victims to come forward too. With all these current sex scandals around the Globe, its the wives and children of these perpetrators who suffer very much..😢
@brenthandycts131
@brenthandycts131 3 ай бұрын
Accountability and testimony to the outside world. If they handle it internally, the world will claim cover up.
@susangibbs676
@susangibbs676 3 ай бұрын
Wives tolerate it for the money and status
@dahj5954
@dahj5954 3 ай бұрын
Because she’s obviously after his pocketbook and fame….. little douche. Go to him personally and make it right. Pastor Robert morris over and over again has said he was morally in sin when he was younger….. he repented but she wants more than that…… been sexually abused too and I went to the individual directly….. grow up.
@patwilson7940
@patwilson7940 3 ай бұрын
Robert Morris's wife knew this all these years... She even called the victim when the victim was only 17 and told her she forgives her for what she did to her husband 😳
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 3 ай бұрын
@@patwilson7940when I heard about that, I was disgusted beyond belief
@txdearone8359
@txdearone8359 3 ай бұрын
It's going to be interesting to see how this Law firm will handle the 'damage control' caused by this scandal. Gateway is run like a BIG BUSINESS and when people realized this, they left for smaller congregations that actually demonstrated 'we are all about people'. I know because I attended there for 5 years volunteering my time, resources and helping with all kinds of events. Every Saturday and Sunday was focused on giving your time and money to reach the lost while those of us who served were never actually appreciated. We were never good enough to be in the 'Club'. Just imagine what they could have accomplished if those millions of dollars coming in were not spent on BIG EXPENSIVE BUILDINGS and BIG SALARIES but instead actually used to help so many in need. If they ever get their priorities straight .... they might turn things around. But it just might be too late now.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
Most churches are, even some of the small one. The pastors are the CEOs, not the pastor. It's that Rick Warren purpose driven junk!😢
@giftyadu7569
@giftyadu7569 3 ай бұрын
Isn't God good! Isn't God just ! I attended fir a period of 3 months, didnt fit their mold and run.
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 3 ай бұрын
they were all too happy to use ppl like you to make their organization a shining city on a hill WHILE THEY RAKED IN MILLIONS FOR THEMSELVES...Robt sitting in his $6 million dollar retirement estate and his huge trophy deer ranch and supposedly $120 million banked...the narcissist is probably grinning that he got away with it.
@lyndalightburn6988
@lyndalightburn6988 3 ай бұрын
Such a sad situation- please don’t let this allow you to walk away from God. Man is flawed. God is not. Pray for this congregation.
@StandUp777
@StandUp777 3 ай бұрын
Elders, you are also accountable to God for this. As overseers, it's your job to be in the know. Shame on you. As an elder, you were more concerned about the business than the truth. Can barely stand to watch this.
@mombythesea2426
@mombythesea2426 3 ай бұрын
I just read the story of David and Bathsheba last night and watched a few teachings. Since everyone compares a sinful pastor to David. And the teacher says Joab was just as guilty as David, because he helped get Uriah killed as part of a coverup. Point being, David sinned, his subordinates helped cover it up, and now everyone involved is guilty of murder. So, I think all elders involved in a coverup are guilty of the sin they’re covering.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
In many churches elders are just a bunch of yes men, or women.
@StandUp777
@StandUp777 3 ай бұрын
@@sharoncrawford7192 Sad but true. This is a perfect example.
@mesquitegirl2013
@mesquitegirl2013 3 ай бұрын
Oh, I mean everybody’s gonna get their punishment even if they don’t get legal repercussions on earth they have to speak to God one day and why nobody immediately didn’t report the abuse when it was come to light as it was happening is shocking to me because he had, he wasn’t as popular as when it started so he wasn’t very well known at the time so why would you be afraid of that especially when your child is the one being abused, so many people failed Cindy
@KellieGray-k4t
@KellieGray-k4t 3 ай бұрын
Hope this mega church has lawyered-up…. Other victims WILL COME FORWARD
@Drshakababa
@Drshakababa 3 ай бұрын
We’re so used to preacher emotional manipulation that it appears phony.
@digitalwasabi2
@digitalwasabi2 3 ай бұрын
Not a single tear. I don’t believe ANY of these people, they are all about spin, coverup, NDAs and damage control. I would NEVER return to that “church.”
@su....
@su.... 3 ай бұрын
sadly, i can't help but agree
@SimoneMarie4
@SimoneMarie4 3 ай бұрын
Yeah
@sveabryan9126
@sveabryan9126 3 ай бұрын
I know. It reminds me of amber heard fake tears and vocal fry.
@SandyLaFlower
@SandyLaFlower 3 ай бұрын
Something about how Robert exaggerated about many things.. he has even commented on how Debbie would correct him on this.. some preachers act like being behind the pulpit is like being on stage. Like a fan club. Other pastors included.. use your own discernment when a pastor gets into the drama of preaching, and not the Holy Spirit, it is a spirit of self aggrandizement, which is pride. I truly believe the pastors that started with a pure heart have fallen because of the pride of the fans... I could be wrong.. we still need to pray for the body of Christ as a whole regardless..
@jacquiehenifin5541
@jacquiehenifin5541 3 ай бұрын
Most jobs would fire you for that abuse and report it to the authorities. This makes me sick that the church covered it up.
@vlc1954
@vlc1954 3 ай бұрын
No more mega churches. Too much deception and corruption. Pastor wasn’t fired? Turned over to the authorities? I am sickened by this crap happening over and over again.
@ivanasimic2072
@ivanasimic2072 3 ай бұрын
DAMAGE CONTROL
@Waggy_519
@Waggy_519 3 ай бұрын
You are damned if you do you and you are damned if you don’t… What would you do or expect if you were in their shoes or if this was the church you attended?
@JudyChartrand-uv6oi
@JudyChartrand-uv6oi 3 ай бұрын
What about being a godly man if you’re a pastor. He committed a crime against a 12 year old child. Maybe you don’t know the full story, or maybe you don’t care. The Bible is very clear that a man who is immortal is not to be a teacher. Or a leader in the church. NOT TO MENTION this church is a harlot church. You need discernment my dear.
@dianeskipwithmarshall8866
@dianeskipwithmarshall8866 3 ай бұрын
Of course. Everything to the light!
@ChangingTides777
@ChangingTides777 3 ай бұрын
Big time
@LeighUpchurch
@LeighUpchurch 3 ай бұрын
Yep
@kehcat1
@kehcat1 3 ай бұрын
The thing I don’t understand is why no one believed her earlier?
@Peano2017
@Peano2017 3 ай бұрын
That's wat I thought and wondered.... something wasn't dealt with wen she was younger, or maybe the parents didn't do enough back in the day.... then it's brought up 35 years later idk.....
@stacymartin4730
@stacymartin4730 3 ай бұрын
Evil
@bettywood2548
@bettywood2548 3 ай бұрын
Why didn’t her father take this to the police when he knew about what happened to his daughter
@ChangingTides777
@ChangingTides777 3 ай бұрын
They believed her. It just wasn't in the press.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration 3 ай бұрын
That’s a lot of questions we should look deep into it. How come the parents didn’t notice especially in this assault situation. 12 years old can’t hide that well. And the time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@PretzelBubba
@PretzelBubba 3 ай бұрын
I can't imagine why anyone would stay in a place with leadership like this. It's not just the horror show of Morris and his wife, it's also these lawyered-up yes men circling the wagons to protect them with this charade of crocodile tears and carefully-worded statements. What a disgrace. Then the congregation stands and dutifully *applauds* this??!! It's like when the congregation gave a standing ovation for several minutes for James Lindell of James River Church a couple of months ago after his disgraceful "sermon" when he savagely tore Mark Driscoll to shreds just to protect his own reputation. What on earth is going on in these churches???!!! As someone else commented, no wonder people want nothing to do with Christianity. Smh.
@juanitawebb1703
@juanitawebb1703 3 ай бұрын
Praying for your church.
@christybaggett6438
@christybaggett6438 3 ай бұрын
Elders are complicit.
@Ronpaulians
@Ronpaulians 3 ай бұрын
Agree. Predators' enablers always start with "It's the hardest thing for me". I don't believe this elder. As a survivor of a long chain of crimes and abuses in 2 evangelical churches, I am 100% sure that you had seen many predatory behaviours in that wolf and he always used scriptures to excuse them and that all his previous victims of his greed, verbal abuse, etc, were despised. This kind of predators do not work alone.
@LeighUpchurch
@LeighUpchurch 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I don't understand how these people, the congregants, can ever trust the staff again, how they can stay?
@hotpinkjalapenos
@hotpinkjalapenos 3 ай бұрын
Q SONG after the fake tear crying check ..MONEY MONEY MONEY
@hotpinkjalapenos
@hotpinkjalapenos 3 ай бұрын
Don't accept their prayers dirty fingers built this church ... Of an innocent child turn the Bible w ur predator SA fingers .. nahh get lost
@Cwood79
@Cwood79 3 ай бұрын
How do you know?
@cindypienaar5460
@cindypienaar5460 3 ай бұрын
Dont forget as Christians we need to forgive Robert and practice mercy
@Marianne-i9r
@Marianne-i9r 3 ай бұрын
We can and must forgive RM. But he deserves nothing more. Sounds luke he's still getting a pension, etc. A slap on the wrist and nothing more.
@marifriedrich1200
@marifriedrich1200 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but Robert should be making a public confession but he cannot now as he has lawyered,, up. He should have been convicted by the holy spirit when this happened. This is not a 1x event, he was continuing to have control over Cindy for a long period of time while married and still pastoring when he should not have been. Yes, he could ask for forgiveness and it would be given but there will be no asking. This is now a legal matter and you will never hear from Robert Morris ever. Its unfortunate and there is a victim here and since the church was made aware of the abuse in 2005, 2007, 2009 and did nothing is not ok. The outcome will be a legal recommendation to settle with Cindy Clemenshire, everyone signs NDA'S and life moves on. I don't personally feel that anyone from Robert Morris ' family should be connected to Gateway and that will be part of the damage control plan from counsel. I pray that this man gets the counseling he needs and does repent himself if not to Gateway, to Cindy and her family, this is how he will be forgiven by Jesus.
@sharieblossom
@sharieblossom 3 ай бұрын
the man is predator of children it’s clear in the epistles that only people of a certain standard of behaviour are to be put in positions of authority. Robert Morris is a man that has demons that make him lust not after women but young children. The man needs deliverance from demonic bondage. These demons don’t work alone they haven many companions with them. He needs deliverance and to truly repent not the fake he’s doing now, he threatened the victim that shows he hasn’t truly repented.
@sharieblossom
@sharieblossom 3 ай бұрын
the man is predator it’s clear in the epistles that only people of a certain standard of behaviour are to be put in positions of authority. Robert Morris is a man that has demons that make him lust not after women but young children. The man needs deliverance from demonic bondage. Lust demons don’t work alone they haven many companions with them. He needs deliverance and to truly repent not the fake he’s doing now, he threatened the victim that shows he hasn’t truly repented.
@sharieblossom
@sharieblossom 3 ай бұрын
the man is predator it’s clear in the epistles that only people of a certain standard of behaviour are to be put in positions of authority. Robert Morris is a man that has demons that make him lust not after women but young children. The man needs deliverance from demonic bondage. Lust demons don’t work alone they haven many companions with them. He needs deliverance and to truly repent not the fake he’s doing now, he threatened the victim that shows he hasn’t truly repented.
@lostplanet1308
@lostplanet1308 3 ай бұрын
Crocodile tears disgust me.
@margaretzee8504
@margaretzee8504 3 ай бұрын
Seriously puky
@lindaprimm667
@lindaprimm667 3 ай бұрын
I didn't see any tears.... I didn't see any sincerity either. Good job reading that prayer someone prepared.
@SandraLira-gq8oj
@SandraLira-gq8oj 3 ай бұрын
Sweetness look at the " young lady". What an Actress! Frickin gold digger. There was a better way to do this. The true Victim here again is Jesus Christ Himself. Just another black eye from his near and dear ones. Robert Morris for being a stupid horny young man himself not able to honor his own wife at the time and "the victim" herself. What an Actress!
@Agben35
@Agben35 3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure (and neither are You) how complicit each person is. While the Morris should never be trusted again in any type of leadership position, we don’t know if this guy or who else did or did not know. A good investigation is needed, this outside law firm should help here. Those who knew need to be accountable
@scottfgrimm
@scottfgrimm 3 ай бұрын
Glad you’re not disgusted for a guy with 7 kids.
@whoknows4279
@whoknows4279 3 ай бұрын
No Oscar nomination for this performance. What about the victim of this abuse? What about amends to her and her family, how about tears (real ones) for her?
@Cwood79
@Cwood79 3 ай бұрын
What has made you so jaded
@aaronwood1846
@aaronwood1846 3 ай бұрын
This man should be an actor. Don't believe a word he says
@saintbees2088
@saintbees2088 3 ай бұрын
@Cwood79 it's been 30 years. About time to get jaded, don't you think?
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 3 ай бұрын
@@Cwood79Not jaded at all. Just an observation. Speaking of jaded, I think it’s reasonable to say some people will become jaded after witnessing the same issues over and over without true repentance.
@valerierosproy1255
@valerierosproy1255 3 ай бұрын
The LORD will provide as long as she continues to trust Him. 🙏💕
@madammim694
@madammim694 3 ай бұрын
when will these elders stop covering up the crimes and moral failures of their pastors? they all say the same thing, they didn't know the truth. if there was ever a hint of anything like this coming up before the body, they should announce it to the church! air it out immediately, put the pastor up to the test and investigate him publicly at the church. bring the accuser and get it all out in the open and figure it out.
@CookieShort-y1w
@CookieShort-y1w 3 ай бұрын
In the last days everything that can be shaken will be. Let’s NOT dismiss all the good that has been done. Let’s Not rely on rumor and UTube for our info. Let him who is without cast the first stone.
@sarahrussell3219
@sarahrussell3219 3 ай бұрын
A rumor that Robert confessed to?😂
@peta-gayejamieson3106
@peta-gayejamieson3106 3 ай бұрын
All the elders should be present. Not 1 person speaking on behalf of....smh.
@christabewley
@christabewley 3 ай бұрын
Nothing will change. They will all stay and move on, sweeping it under the rug!$
@klarag7059
@klarag7059 3 ай бұрын
At first I thought his words were good. By the end all they sounded like were hollow clangs in a house of smoke and mirrors. The more he spoke the more off the whole church sounded. Yuck, bitter aftertaste and stench.
@muggchum
@muggchum 3 ай бұрын
Did you notice how he flattered the church to get the wagons circled. Same old playbook.
@klarag7059
@klarag7059 3 ай бұрын
@@muggchum yep. Hollow words.
@azbuckeyegirl9523
@azbuckeyegirl9523 3 ай бұрын
I too was disappointed in the direction the statement took.
@lavadamorrison4569
@lavadamorrison4569 3 ай бұрын
This is about a person namely Robert Morris and his victim Cindy. Peter was not in trouble because he had molested a 12-year-old child. Jesus is the one cleansing his church. Did the elders know all the facts? That is hard to know for sure but there is pretty good evidence that at least some of them did. Just as Robert Morris will be held accountable so will the eldership members if they knew and are trying to cover their backs. Time will tell.
@christiaanv
@christiaanv 3 ай бұрын
They knew. For a long time they knew.
@abidingonthestraightandnar5330
@abidingonthestraightandnar5330 3 ай бұрын
Is it just me, or do this Elder tears seems forced? His crying seems unauthentic...
@mrnice111
@mrnice111 2 ай бұрын
I see it too. Makes me want to throw up.
@necieden
@necieden 3 ай бұрын
Where is Morris with his apology? Elders, no excuse! Focus on the love of Christ and not man. No one believed Cindy. Shame on Gateway!!!! Your not committed to protecting. I don't believe it..
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration 3 ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@patwilson7940
@patwilson7940 3 ай бұрын
She turned the money down because it came with conditions she would not agree to
@dawnzimmerman6818
@dawnzimmerman6818 3 ай бұрын
@@CMMC-immigration- Wow, Margaret - you don’t tell the entire truth about the church requiring an NDA in order for them to give her 1/2 of what she requested … for reimbursing her for her decades of counseling costs. Decades
@annblank2427
@annblank2427 3 ай бұрын
And he even had the nerve to accuse her of trying to blackmail him and he threatened her! When this man is worth 111 million, he didn't want to spend $50k of his money to help restore the damage he had caused, and the elders failed to probe until they actually got the truth! Now I want to see what BOTH Robert Morris (and Debbie) and this church can do to help Robert's victim(s). You don't heal ANYTHING by allowing that man's SON to take over the senior pastor position of that church.
@christieprince6991
@christieprince6991 3 ай бұрын
@@patwilson7940 usually Injury settlement can come with some conditions. Sometimes you can live with the conditions sometimes it may be a bit more difficult. But I don't know what specific conditions may or may not have by attached. It appears both parties were represented by Counsel.Only one side is speaking. The LEGAL Independent comprehensive Investigation will reveal EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING.
@vaportrails7943
@vaportrails7943 3 ай бұрын
He should never have been preaching, ever. Those who knew and let him continue were in the wrong. I always thought he was a grifter fleecing the church for money, but didn’t know how bad it was.
@gussu9308
@gussu9308 3 ай бұрын
Wait ! So you don’t believe on this: 2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all His benefits: 3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; 4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies” Wow, some Christians are more harsh than God himself 😳
@ednandhlovu6262
@ednandhlovu6262 3 ай бұрын
Pastor Robert, I am praying for you. I know you have expressed a sense deep remorse every time you shared how Christ has shown you love from your passed life. It must have been hard keeping this from the people. May God embrace you in this time and show you deep love and affection. To cindy, I am sorry this happened to you. I hope you can have a private conversation with Robert so he can apologise to you privately, not everything needs to published. I hope you can forgive him. Not to demean your pain Cindy, allow me to share what I think you should have done. You should have gone privately to confront Pastor Robert and tried to resolve with him privately and you have given him a chance to take it to the elders and everyone in a manner that does not shake the weak Christians. You coming out publicly for me leaves gaps like why now and even how it was publicly published was did some black mailing fail. It's just my thoughts and I am not excusing the bad act . It's sad to see Morris leave the pulpit this way but it is what it is.
@gussu9308
@gussu9308 3 ай бұрын
I cannot agree more. Is known that Pastor Morris asked forgiveness to her and the family. Her father forgave him and he was not allowed to teach for two years. This was over 35 years ago so..// She contacted PRM via email several times.. and .. You can read the emails if you google a little bit to get the whole story.
@myrnaedith
@myrnaedith 2 ай бұрын
Are you praying for the victim too?
@kariqualls4578
@kariqualls4578 3 ай бұрын
Also I WILL say, I have definitely been blessed by some of the messages that came unexpectedly and just at the most significant times. God can use anything and anyone but He is a God of justice and works all things for the good of those that Love Him. So grateful for this verse.
@mjwallace8953
@mjwallace8953 3 ай бұрын
Any preacher that can’t handle being questioned about their actions doesn’t have the a godly spirit in them. I’ve grown up Pentecostal my whole life and I’m tired of pastors thinking they are not accountable! They want to get in a pulpit and call people Jezabel’s when their hearts are full of pride. God is separating the mega pastors who are loving power and money over holiness! Robert Morris has blood on his hands for not exposing those criminal acts when he said he repented! I hope and pray the church gets an humble man leading them!
@sarvomar1
@sarvomar1 3 ай бұрын
The wisest thing for believers/ followers and lovers of Jesus to do would be to imitate how Jesus confronted sin and sinners. If it were not for the grace he has shown us/ continues to show us all of us would be guilty and on trial. We also have a habit of grading sin, something that is not biblical. Remember David? Did he loose God’s favor? Did he loose his anointing? Did he continue to lead Israel as king? Did he confess his adultery and murder on his own initiative or did someone (Nathan the prophet) reveal his sin? How come Saul was entrusted and chosen for the work of building the Church of Jesus Christ after persecuting and okaying the murder of so many followers of Jesus? How come Mary Magdalene was given such an important role in the ministry of spreading the gospel? After all she was an adulteress! How come Moses was chosen to set the Hebrews free?- he was after all a murderer, running away from trial, judgement punishment. How come Jacob a sly, compulsive liar and deceiver was the one God chose to bestow his blessing upon? The one from whose seed and descendants Jesus our Messiah would be born? Please consider these things before passing judgement. showing grace does not mean a person has not sinned. In fact it means the opposite.
@donnamclendon2567
@donnamclendon2567 3 ай бұрын
Awesome words from the Bible I said the same thing 😊
@ursulawuthrich5533
@ursulawuthrich5533 3 ай бұрын
The question is, has he truly repented? He talked about " a lady," but it was a child of 12 years of age. Pedophilia. It seems to me that he has not repented. He would not have hidden this so many years.
@sarvomar1
@sarvomar1 3 ай бұрын
@@ursulawuthrich5533 Please read my comment again- I have addressed your concern along with the opinions everybody has posted. How does Jesus confront sin and sinners? He calls us by our name and not by our sin for starters. Neither does he grade our sins.
@zerozero9085
@zerozero9085 3 ай бұрын
"accepted the resignation"?! Why wasn't he immediately fired? I guess he walks away with his pension intact?
@Tears77529
@Tears77529 3 ай бұрын
And a newly built mansion to retire to! Pitiful!!
@BarbaraHockman-l9l
@BarbaraHockman-l9l 3 ай бұрын
He should be fired.
@dantheman909
@dantheman909 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes when you fired someone they are entitled to severance. So letting him resign could be the best option.
@sowaniagermain1168
@sowaniagermain1168 3 ай бұрын
Praying for healing
@carolyndunegan3505
@carolyndunegan3505 3 ай бұрын
Disappointing… No mention or apology for the enabling. No mention of the first media release where they supported Robert Morris before they ask questions.
@yvonnekneeshaw2784
@yvonnekneeshaw2784 3 ай бұрын
Of course Christ can/will continue to work out His desires in spite of our human sin. This apology seemed less about the actual topic of “sin”. Using words to skirt around the word “sin”. I’m wondering did the elders really not know? did they do their due diligence & research? Did they have yearly interviews between elders/pastors in which truth is shared & have the hard conversations. Appears people around strong leaders have a tough time coming out of the wood work to truth tell. As I say…this will not stop God even in these hurts.
@CaroleSusan
@CaroleSusan 3 ай бұрын
This was well spoken, genuine, heartfelt and compassionate. Thank you, Elder Tra, for sharing your heart, speaking justly and keeping it all real. Thank you for not blaming, shaming or making excuses. That was refreshing 💒🙏
@carriemccurley-th8gn
@carriemccurley-th8gn 3 ай бұрын
This elder is Tra Wilbanks, CEO of Anchor Investments, a reported family-owned and operated investment firm with a focus in the manufacturing, distribution, and services market. Website says, "Helping owners unlock their equity, we work with companies predominantly located in the south with revenue levels of at least $5 million." Funny how big money always seems to be around the church leadership.
@Howiefaam31459
@Howiefaam31459 3 ай бұрын
Many thousands of sheep nearby ready to be fleeced.
@sabine3769
@sabine3769 3 ай бұрын
Of course. All the love of money
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 3 ай бұрын
In mega churches, in most cases, elders or board members are usually those who have alot of money and own businesses.
@ChangingTides777
@ChangingTides777 3 ай бұрын
So true.
@RJ63227
@RJ63227 3 ай бұрын
They have to give them titles and positions...in order to protect the cash cows.
@robertwilliams7742
@robertwilliams7742 3 ай бұрын
I got my hopes up given the display of emotions and direct reference to Cindy and having compassion for her, but there was no explicit reference to what was uncovered nor specific notion of changes being made. Just some quick “sorry” statements and then a rally to keep meeting in “Jesus’s church.” :(
@cecevineyard2938
@cecevineyard2938 3 ай бұрын
and no humble request for forgiveness from God, or also from Cindy
@robertwilliams7742
@robertwilliams7742 3 ай бұрын
@@cecevineyard2938 right. I know it’s unimaginable to ask for forgiveness from God or people when you fall under the lie that you (Gateway) receive knowledge directly from God. Even if there are pastors and prophets leading a church, they must be open to testing and humility otherwise they are likely to fool themselves.
@cecevineyard2938
@cecevineyard2938 3 ай бұрын
@@robertwilliams7742 I believe this church government, Nicolaitan, is discussed in Revelations 2:26. Nicolaitan means "to rule (or conquer) over people. I have no idea about this particular church's structure, but I have in others. Jesus hates this, too. In The Passion Translation regarding this scripture, there is a detailed footnote about Nicolaitan church structure. But in Revelations, there were some good things Jesus said about that church as well.
@robertwilliams7742
@robertwilliams7742 3 ай бұрын
@@cecevineyard2938 that’s the hard part. Many will come out to defend this church (many even with good intentions) because some good can happen even where evil has occurred. We have to be truthful with the good AND the bad. Though personally I think I’m with you about conquering people not sounding all that great. 😬
@user-pn3fw1nc7j
@user-pn3fw1nc7j 3 ай бұрын
Yes, made it a point to tell the people that they must still come to that place and meet in the building. Uh no, church is individual people. Not a building.
@juanresendiz56jr
@juanresendiz56jr 3 ай бұрын
What a good actor! This makes the so called GW church look even more pathetic! I would have demanded that morris himself apologize and address the people! The elder still referred to him as pastor morris. Really!! Could the real church please 🙏🏻 stand up!! Totally sick of leaders screwing everything up and leading people astray. Lord reveal the fake pastors and the way they manipulate and twist Your Holy Word!! Amen! 🙏🏻👏🏻😇
@laraderksen4297
@laraderksen4297 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate his genuine compassion for the victims involved and appreciation for how much damage Morris has caused. Still don’t understand how a crisis management law firm that they hired is “independent” or even an appropriate choice for this? Also why would said law firm be asked to investigate such a small time frame. The odds regarding this predatory sort of behaviour are heavily in favour of there having been multiple other victims across time. Why wasn’t he fired? Isn’t that much more appropriate for someone who violated a position of trust and authority by molesting a child? I feel like I’m in the twilight zone on that one. So many questions and so many red flags.
@dawnzimmerman6818
@dawnzimmerman6818 3 ай бұрын
In many ways Gateway Church & Robert Morris are almost the same entity. Because Morris had already been talking about retiring in 2025 and passing the reigns over to his son, they Elders probably just went with the path of least resistance in allowing him to resign. And yes the time frame of the Investigation should be much broader… my guess is that they might truly prefer not to know how broadly this happened. Let’s keep praying that any other victim-survivors will step forward. It takes immense courage.
@tiffanidye5747
@tiffanidye5747 3 ай бұрын
Maybe he resigned before they could fire him?
@soundthinking1534
@soundthinking1534 3 ай бұрын
His fake tears suddenly vanished when he tries to cover his as$. Pure evil. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Beware
@denalowry8710
@denalowry8710 3 ай бұрын
​@@tiffanidye5747 no they allowed him to resign as he had to notify the elder board
@tanyaernst270
@tanyaernst270 3 ай бұрын
Sniffling with no tears. He passes in and out of emotion like a switch. That’s impossible. This is a rally more than it is repentance.
@DanielLick-qg7ew
@DanielLick-qg7ew 3 ай бұрын
whatever it takes would be calling the cops and charging this guy... are the elder doing that?
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
That's nonsense.
@DarrylRuiz-s1w
@DarrylRuiz-s1w 3 ай бұрын
They should have called law enforcement not "restore" him
@susanemig972
@susanemig972 3 ай бұрын
I refuse to watch this. The Lord himself is exposing all such perversions. He requires a pure spotless bride. As long as men refuse to produce fruit in keeping with repentance, the Holy Ghost will be moving on. Being sorry that you got caught won’t cut it
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
Your statement contradicts the Gospel.
@hogfarmer
@hogfarmer 3 ай бұрын
Another story like Mike Bickle, Ravi Zacharias and countless untold stories over generations The perpetrator rarely if ever does the actual apologizing. They won't be able to avoid giving an answer to I Am one day.
@virginiacadriel4038
@virginiacadriel4038 3 ай бұрын
You should have always had that plan, when u hear a rumor from one of your elders, investigate the truth. 😢😢
@Howiefaam31459
@Howiefaam31459 3 ай бұрын
No. The business plan is to bury them rumors and the victims first then ask for forgiveness later.
@markb7067
@markb7067 3 ай бұрын
Gateway should be better off now. There's some very good people that attend there, and they're hurting. Let the healing begin and let justice prevail.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
The healing began 35 years ago, before Gateway existed. Seems the devil likes to reopen old wounds just in time for election cycle. Let's not forget that Robert Morris was a public spiritual figure behind Trump. How convenient.
@jjj1008
@jjj1008 3 ай бұрын
I went to Oral Roberts University Robert Morris was known as the PASTOR OVER PASTORS! In the comments I read so many people saying this is why they don't believe in Christianity. Or comments like now peoples heart will be hardened sending them to HELL. JESUS JESUS JESUS! This is why you should never worship a man or woman of God, you get to know Heavenly Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit that way when your mega church pastor fails you, your relationship is planted on the solid ground of Jesus Christ. The Prophet David in the Bible slept with his friends wife, he sent that friend to the front of the battle line in war so he would die. Yet the Bible says David is a Man after God's own heart. God's ways are not our ways. What bothers me when a man or woman of God falls the same people that waited in line to kiss up to them are now gossiping about them and speaking hatred. Pray instead of slaying.
@debsad7500
@debsad7500 3 ай бұрын
This was so loving. We on the outside looking in although disappointed, aren’t impacted as personally as Gateway. “KEEP YOUR EYES ON JESUS…” Hebrews 12:2 There will be folk standing along side this congregation in prayer. ❤🙏🏼
@jessevarela
@jessevarela 3 ай бұрын
Trying to save the business from going under. He "didn't" know because he didn't want to know.
@mrnice111
@mrnice111 2 ай бұрын
You got that right.
@RoseCarson-u5m
@RoseCarson-u5m 3 ай бұрын
Praying for a cleansing of sin in Gateway Church. I am not sure why Morris wasn’t fired but I believe the elder who spoke is truly sorry for Morris’s sin and he spoke from his heart. Praying for restoration in this church assembly, that God will work a cleansing because of this sin and heal the hearts of all the broken. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@sharieblossom
@sharieblossom 3 ай бұрын
Gateway Church you better put a stop to the victim blaming coming from your supporters! It needs to STOP!
@denali9643
@denali9643 3 ай бұрын
First the shock and response. Then the mass exodus. Then the money dries up. Then the layoffs. Then Gateway closes its doors. It’s a common tale.
@berealrb1496
@berealrb1496 3 ай бұрын
Accepted resignation?? How about you are fired!!
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 3 ай бұрын
😂 Jump to more conclusions! He had already stepped down before this, anyway.
@lorig6408
@lorig6408 3 ай бұрын
The blood is on allllllll the elders, Mr. Morris and anyone else who knew about the abuse Cindy and her family went through! I notice when this elder read his apology not one word was said that Mr Morris has a heart of repentance! They were about relationships with others and not Jesus!! Sadly he was doing a commercial for the church! It was alllllll about them! Plus Mr Morris should have been fired and not allowed to dictate how he was going to Leave! Oh and did you notice the elder read the prayer!!!!! What !!!! 😮
@Mutasis_Mutandis
@Mutasis_Mutandis 3 ай бұрын
Of course. It’s to be expected. They are all fakes.
@PhilipBauer-pq3eb
@PhilipBauer-pq3eb 2 ай бұрын
This is just wrong for continuing persecution of Robert Morris! "Those who have not SIN, cast the 1st stone!
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 2 ай бұрын
And I'll bet you don't even know the context of that scripture, just something you whip out to try and gain the moral high ground. You display a shallow, simplistic knowledge of the New Testament.
@deanacarmack5323
@deanacarmack5323 2 ай бұрын
Begging your pardon, but if you heard Robert Morris preach heresy..."God wants to kill your soul," and "When Jesus took on flesh, he surrendered his diety " etc.. And you didn't call him on it, then all the elders are complicit in perpetrating that heresy!
@1lice
@1lice 3 ай бұрын
How much of this speech was written by the attorneys
@Rc-tb9uy
@Rc-tb9uy 3 ай бұрын
Why are you so angry to make such a baseless comment?
@customsporty883
@customsporty883 3 ай бұрын
Where are his tears? All sniffles and broken voice but not a tear running down his face
@godhg9694
@godhg9694 3 ай бұрын
he's acting..that's why he has no tears
@giftyadu7569
@giftyadu7569 3 ай бұрын
There are more hidden issues @ Gateway. This is only the beginning. I hope the sheep will not be bamboozled by these theatrics.
@Annie261.
@Annie261. 3 ай бұрын
It’s all BS
@hotpinkjalapenos
@hotpinkjalapenos 3 ай бұрын
Did u see the check the audience @ 7:18 bahhaahaha such a manipulation act guys chewing his toung like he's sniffed a line to come out and put this show on.
@daizymathai3745
@daizymathai3745 3 ай бұрын
Men usually don’t shed tears.
@JamesYourTrainer
@JamesYourTrainer 3 ай бұрын
They should be all standing and applauding the victim for staying strong!!! Not standing for supporting that apology 😅
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