The Sans the Fandom Forgot | Undertale Character Analysis

[@Dorked]

The patrons have spoken, and so I present an in-depth Sans character analysis, using a ton of official materials, including the original demo, the alarm clock dialogue, and more! If you like what I do, consider supporting me on Patreon at patreon.com/dorked If you want to check out my other UTDR analysis vids, there's a playlist here: kzbin.info/aero/PLVzdARAAbX5EbeSqLALxWuHAwby8CYzEC I also recently put out a video on Moon, one of Undertale's biggest inspirations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX-wkGacqJmaZtk I've also branched out into videos on leitmotifs in games, with a lot to say: kzbin.info/aero/PLVzdARAAbX5FxPBAKFL83C_F88pbqNmOW Additionally, I recently put out a video on the Autumn 2024 newsletter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emfTl4ZshdOYqq8 Undertale Anniversary Q&A: undertaleqa.tumblr.com/ Undertale Alarm Clock: undertale.com/alarmclock/ Papyrus Interview 1: toby.fangamer.com/interviews/papyrus/ Papyrus Interview 2: toby.fangamer.com/interviews/papyrus2/ Autumn 2024 Newsletter: toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/autumn24/ Grillby's Comic: toby.fangamer.com/comics/grillbys/ My Undertale webcomic, Inverted Fate: invertedfate.com/chapters Chapters: <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="0">0:00</a> - Introduction <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="44">0:44</a> - First Impressions <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="464">7:44</a> - Beyond the Snow <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="667">11:07</a> - Judgment and Consequences <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="971">16:11</a> - Neutral Endings <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1346">22:26</a> - A Darker Path <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1760">29:20</a> - Pacifist and Beyond <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2014">33:34</a> - Sans Casino <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2193">36:33</a> - Deltarune <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2412">40:12</a> - Conclusion

[@thedotgiver2820]

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[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

I always felt like the mischaracterization of sans and the fact there's an entire fandom revolving around exclusively different versions of him which range from "what if" scenarios to straight up OCs just using his design but otherwise having barely any connection to the actual sans, almost all of which using the exact same mischaracterization as a base is something that needs to be studied

[@Dorked]

It's actually really interesting in how similar it became to the Onceler. I think part of it was people wanting to explore original stories and characters but not having the confidence to fully make original IPs, so using recognizable characters as a template was an easier way to get investment. Not that this is a bad thing. People should enjoy the act of creativity, no matter what form it takes. It's just a likely factor.

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

@Dorked Frisk: I don’t like sans. It’s course it’s rough. It gets everywhere. Plus, a lot of those sans variants are actually really good

[@SoldadoCatolico]

Ye olde memetics The most contagious version of information is the one that gets spread around the most. That is called recessions in academic circles; truly, memes are the DNA of the soul, the genes of culture

[@BoneDaddy69420]

true. almost all sans variants do a disservice to the character as he's widely misunderstood. partly because of memes and partly because of fanworks endlessly regurgitating their edgy & dramaticized/innocent & woobified version of him until he's unrecognizable aside from an uncanny resemblance. crossbones is awesome though.

[@ninjawolfgame]

@@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf i hate you yet i respect both that pun and reference

[@qwertykins76]

I love how sans is introduced to us in a spooky manner, as if we should be afraid of him. Then we think he's just a joke character, so we get complacent around him for the whole game. But THEN finally, we understand that we should be afraid of sans. Very, very afraid... To the point where that spooky introduction he originally had is now the joke in comparison. Because the real sans if far MORE terrifying than just some spooky silhouette in the woods.....

[@Dorked]

YES. Like what makes Sans such a memorable character is how he perfectly goes from intimidating to funny and back. He keeps you guessing, and I think that aspect of him really captures the imaginations of many people. Even if I'm more of a Flowey, Alphys, and Papyrus person, I still think Sans is really cool and his popularity totally makes sense.

[@gg.420]

Sans literally crush than heavy branch into atoms which basically hard to do with 1 atk, whatever trick he use it explain why Sans could kill you the moment you first meet him.

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

He’s more than just all edge all the time Or all goofy all the time he can be both in great measuring that makes it unique and interesting

[@sweethistortea]

Tumblr will DEFINITELY never forget Sans. 🙈

[@Dorked]

Never forget the Sans and Reigen tumblr sexyman polls...

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

@Dorked Gaster: Tumblr, I remember your sans Undertale (an entire catalog of different variations of sans stands in the background)

[@Ryzer235]

It turns out in the end, Sans doesn’t remember you’re genocides

[@Dorked]

The memes were still pretty amusing, though, in just how many permutations there were.

[@steadfast1448]

@@Dorked I remember you're inverted fate

[@zaidalvi-r2l]

Maybe the real genocides were the friends we made along the way

[@ivanlol7153]

@@Dorked "Dorked, I remember you're character analysis"

[@starmaker75]

and forget flowey/asriel is the that remember your genocides

[@AEdgyAhhCookie]

I love the game that fr says "Your choices matters" is the same game where the fandom can't understand morally gray characters and keeps mischaractering the characters

[@Dorked]

I think mischaracterization often comes from time leaving people's memories fuzzy, tbh. People who play the game once and then just stick around for fanworks, and fanworks that feed into other fanworks until the original characterization gets obscured. That's part of why I like to make these videos, as a nice refresher and reference. c:

[@AEdgyAhhCookie]

@@Dorked And your videos are awesome!! and you do have a good point!

[@CatSlapps]

It is time to clean the fandom waste bin 💀👏😭

[@Dorked]

At the very least, I hope this video will be a useful reference for people! c:

[@AEdgyAhhCookie]

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[@childeofepickness]

finally god it’s so dirty

[@Plaguedocwhoneedsabreak]

But I like my aus D:

[@Dorked]

@@Plaguedocwhoneedsabreak There's nothing wrong with AUs! I have one myself. xD

[@Magic_Ice]

Dorked, I remember you’re *sand analysis.*

[@Dorked]

Ah, sand. A natural part of this world's ecosystem, yet have you really sat down to consider where sand comes from? These small, unassuming particles are an iconic feature on many beaches, but in this comment, I'll-- /brick'd

[@TheSenkMan]

@@Dorked ah, bricks. Gets you wondering how we came up with them. Originally in Ancient Rome ancient concrete was made with bits of brick and stone inside, however bricks can be traced all the way back to-

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

@Dorked Frisk: I don’t like sans. It’s course it’s rough. It gets everywhere.

[@zaidalvi-r2l]

​@@TheSenkManah 'to' a very common word in the English language but one that often gets overlooked. Well I am here to change that and to inform you that 'to's inception can be dated-

[@TheSenkMan]

@@zaidalvi-r2l the concept of “dating” or keeping track of events and measuring the amount of of time elapsed has gone through many stages throughout history, for instance-

[@orbitalnova5713]

Lets go sans actual characterization unboxing

[@Dorked]

Yesss. It was really fun to look back at everything as a refresher, since it can be easy to lose sight of Toby's original intentions with so many different takes in fanworks.

[@sylvanas9329]

Quoting Andrew Cunningham: “Sans is an icon and a god. If you think sans *was* a good character and is now a meme, you have allowed fandom exposure to ruin the best character in Undertale, and should refrain from making that anyone else’s problem.”

[@Dorked]

THAT IS SUCH A GOOD QUOTE and 100% true.

[@k_klaw2097]

Rubbing my hands together OUGH im ready for this one

[@Dorked]

I worked all week on this puppy. Hopefully it'll be a fun watch!

[@ThatOneMinecraftian]

Great video. Something that really turned me off was this fanon vs canon trend which ended up creating the abomination called 'canon sans'. This guy was made after people started using memes from the 2016 undertale fandom. So basically, Sans was turned into a souless joke sh*tter that doesn’t care about anyone. People genuinely believe this is who sans is as a character unfortunately. This is mostly due to Sans 'not caring about papyrus dying'. He clearly does care, in neutral endings where sans is pissed off at you when you kill his bro. In the Genocide route, sans is unable to express many emotions because of his inner-depression and sadness. He gave up a long time ago but now as he stands looking at the one who killed hundreds of his own kind, he feels as if he can’t afford to not care anymore.

[@Dorked]

Yeah, the "2024 fanon Sans" is a huge overcorrection mostly used in fan discussions more than fanworks, but I think the thing is that Sans is emotional... he's just in control of his emotions. Sans masks, Sans has a great deal of composure. You can tell when he's angry or sad, but the way he conveys those feelings is pretty subtle, and sometimes subtle character writing doesn't hit as clearly as bigger, more bombastic personality traits like with, say, Papyrus or Undyne.

[@ThatOneMinecraftian]

@@Dorked Yeah, something I’ve also noticed is sans’ smile never changes up until the time you finally hit him. it’s pretty subtle but it’s like it’s hinting how much less he conveys his emotions through his expressions unlike Undyne and Papyrus. The only way he can really show that he’s angry or upset is through making his eyes pure black. It’s a pretty nice detail to his character in general.

[@CrustyFox87]

It’s sad how much Flanderization can make people forget how characters were actually written

[@Dorked]

Yeah, but it happens everywhere in every fandom, tbh. It's just really apparent with UT due to how short of a game it is and how big of a fandom.

[@W.d_Gaster]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1700">28:20</a> I think this is something that has been kinda forgotten about Sans. He believes that the Anomaly can do much better than erasing the timeline. He believes that just because the Anomaly can destroy everything doesn't mean it's evil, just upset. That if it's given a chance and some guidance, the Anomaly can be a friend. And once confronted with the proof that the Anomaly does not care about friendship, he does not want to have that knowledge ("don't tell that to the other sans-es"). Sans believes in you. Or at least tries to. I really like that about him.

[@Dorked]

Yeah, Sans' pursuit of the anomaly is actually rather smart in that rather than going for an all out offense, he tries to be a kind, funny person to kind of help the anomaly feel welcome. He's smart enough to realize that someone who messes with time probably has something driving them to do it, and he's certainly not wrong. Even Flowey did so out of a pervasive emptiness.

[@kau_for_thee_8567]

Curse of popularity. You ever think on how Sans would probably not be a big fan of his popularity to begin with?Which is funny, since he's also popular in-game.

[@Dorked]

It's really interesting in how Sans is basically known by everyone. They think he's this cool, funny, and likable guy, and he seems sociable enough, considering he is a performer at MTT's resort, but I think there's definitely this sense of loneliness, too, in that so many people don't know about the anomaly, and I don't think he wants to burden them, tbh.

[@kau_for_thee_8567]

@@Dorked Yeah,overall it almost seems as if Toby loves to play around with the skelebros,and there's big chances for him to play around with that even more with Deltarune(I definitely think he's cooking something with Papyrus).

[@solanaheart]

​@@DorkedI didn't understand much about the anomaly, this video made me learn many things that I didn't know before about sans thank you so much for this video!

[@SoulRobot33210]

do you guys remember the: Steven After Nnot Surviving theory?

[@Dorked]

I loved when the Spamton Sweepstakes made a reference to it.

[@twohundredcats]

@@Dorked Spamton After Not Surviving

[@Libralines]

Always love the lv judgments they get me on a different level

[@Dorked]

God, there are so many and it's crazy how much hidden dialogue Toby snuck into the game. The amount of routing internally musta been insane.

[@insertherealotofeyeemojis2185]

(Of violence)

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

@Dorked Frisk: sans quit it with the sick burns 😑 Sans: I don’t think I will

[@cultofmel]

Fanon: PAPYRUS DIED!!!! I WILL KILLED YOU HUMAN!!!!1 "Canon" (still fanon): ok lol i don't care. Canon: hrhrhrrhrrhrhrrhrhrhr

[@Dorked]

It's interesting how the recent canon vs fanon debates kinda sparked this cool appreciation for lesser known details from the game, though. That was part of what inspired me to cover this topic and add it to the patron poll. xD

[@gabblepuff597]

sans is very well put together. He doesn’t feel apathy towards death, he feels rather pissed when you harm people he cares about, but he doesn’t show it a lot, mainly cause in his fight he’s not trying to get revenge or anything. He’s trying to stop you, and get some answers. He knows it wouldn’t be wise to bring too much emotion to a fight. I’m excited to see what you think about him!

[@Dorked]

Eyy, thanks! c: Hope you enjoy the video.

[@CuteShutterBug06]

Sans was always an investing character, but it's debatable whether they were for the right reasons initially. His story goes deep, and he probably comes from a different universe. I'd say there's been progress, though.

[@Dorked]

I think Sans blew up due to the genuine interest in the early days of the game, but then so many fanworks and permutations followed, as one would expect when a fandom gets so ridiculously big. Add that to UT's appeal across all ages and you get a lot of people creating at different skill levels. I think there's something beautiful about that inspiration coming from so many walks of life, and I've kinda come to accept that even the "fanon" works are made with passion. I just like to share helpful characterization details in hopes that they can be a good reference for others. c: That, and it's just fun to analyze.

[@edwardramos4591]

To me, Sans is the Cheshire Cat to Frisk's Alice. He clearly knows things about the setting that he prefers to keep hidden behind a smile and a joking demeanor, can royally f with Frisk's head if he feels like it (or feels he needs to), and yet he's the closest thing that they have to a consistent friend in the Underground (certain Neutral runs not withstanding).

[@Draminacion0207]

If I had to say wich fanworks got Sans' (and Papyrus') character the best I'd saay either Handplates or Unexpected Guest Also maybe you pichted down your voice a bit much for the Sans voice

[@felementsofficial5685]

That one post on twitter showing how much different 2024 Fanon sans is from the original UNDERTALE sans was EYEOPENING.

[@Dorked]

That 2024 fanon Sans is interesting because it's less a fanwork thing and more a discussion thing. It's an overcorrection that almost feels born out of insecurity, in a weird way?

[@Auburn_Rusame0704]

Dorked, I remember you’re *God-tier character analysis*

[@Dorked]

Eyy, thank you very much. c:

[@AmenKing1999Gaming]

Sans overshadows even the fallen human and the young prince? I refuse to believe it.

[@Dorked]

I'd say Chara, Sans, and Asriel are all really popular, but when you look at the sheer volume of Sans fanworks, there's certainly a very significant amount, especially in the fangame scene.

[@nameman9997]

Most fanworks either gloss over Asriel or separate him from Flowey. And many fanworks also tend to treat Chara as more an unstoppable force of nature than a character

[@Ammiteur9]

People always ask "how to beat Sans" but never "how is Sans" /j

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

True he needs help just as much as anybody else

[@glowchips7386]

I really love that Dorked is willing to chat with each comment, it’s really rare to see a larger creator do something like that and it’s quite fun to see

[@Dorked]

I do try to respond when I can! Sometimes I get really busy, so I can't reply to everyone individually, but I do appreciate comments regardless.

[@err0r522]

The truth was spoken. Now we have Sans Undertale back instead of Sans Fandomtale. 💀

[@Dorked]

At the very least, I'm happy to contribute to providing a reference for those who don't wanna go back and replay the full game as a refresher. That's the fun part about making these videos and writing analysis in general.

[@err0r522]

​@@DorkedOh I'm definitely gonna replay Undertale before the next chapter of Deltarune comes out. I just recently noticed the one phone call in which Papyrus literally makes a reference to Trashy from Deltarune.

[@JezElectro13]

I don't know what I can say, I just want to leave a comment here. Hello.

[@Illager22]

Hi :)

[@SpathiCaptainFwiffo]

Hi :]

[@CiblesPlush]

Haiiii :3

[@Bonnet9330]

Nothing infuriates me more than people being like "Erm Sans is mid 🤓" just because he was popular at one point and forgetting that he's still a well written character. Excited to watch this video!

[@Dorked]

Yeah, popular is not the same as bad. I can understand being annoyed with your favs being overshadowed (I've had that happen before), but I think the best solution is to just share the love for those favs rather than put other characters down.

[@Bonnet9330]

​@@Dorked Agreed. For me personally it just feels really unfair to let the way a fandom treats a character affect your opinion of them. I get that Sans may have gotten more praise than he deserved initally, but that doesn't mean he was never good to begin with. And that's what peeves me off

[@Bone-dry]

Sans is the type of person that if you insulted him he'd be like "lol, hater's gonna hate" and then do a fornite dance

[@Dorked]

...dang it, I forgot to mention his canonical fortnite dance in the video. OOPS.

[@crypt5129]

​@@DorkedYou're going to have to make a part two specifically for the fortnite dance

[@Torie_Box1997]

Sans was always an interesting character, but it's debatable whether he blew up for the right reasons. He is a mask. Dorked I remember you're analysis................

[@Dorked]

The theater mask visual in the thumbnail was something I had to do because it felt perfect for a character like him. The duality, the way he masks a lot about himself... I like symbolism. xD

[@Rayaan_2069]

I feel like alot of people forget this piece of dialogue in Sans's workshop when after the True Pacifist Ending if u check his workshop again and see the photo album the dialogue will change to "... and, one photo of you standing with sans and all your friends." i thought i would mention it here as most people forget this piece of dialogue

[@Dorked]

It's really interesting how that happens. For a while, people thought it persisted across true resets, but apparently that was a misconception.

[@poopet1976]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="33">0:33</a> broke me for some reason

[@LoiValdes]

Saddest thing is that this doesn't apply only to Sans but to basically every character in UT Frisk being an innocent baby "girl" Alphys being an really awful person Flowey and Asriel as two different person's And Chara being a yandere or the purest person on earth UT was a game that missed its core audience and we're still having those consequences today

[@Magicallord9]

Frisk isn’t a girl tho Like i get that u put it in quotes but at that point just don’t include it

[@sanstheskeleton3279]

Sans is such an intriguing character, there's still so much we don't know about him, why does he bleed? how does he know so much about timelines? where did he get the machine? why are his blasters called ''Gaster Blasters''? and what is his relation to Gaster?, I hope one day we will know the answers to all those questions...

[@Dorked]

Yeah, there are many loose ends that seem to be there deliberately, and it's interesting in that if Deltarune doesn't touch upon them, then it'll probably just remain an open book. Either approach is fine, but it'd be cool to see more development without overshadowing the core DR plot.

[@CyborusYT]

finally a good sane serious video about sans seriously this was great!

[@Dorked]

Eyy, thanks a bunch! c: It was fun to finally sit down and make a video about the funny skeleton man.

[@susususmoogus5777]

finally, a toriel character analysis

[@Dorked]

All jokes aside, that may come at some point. Patrons were pretty interested in Flowey/Asriel and Mettaton, so those would probably come first, but I'll probably cover every major character at *some* point.

[@stratollera]

Thanks for making the video that I've always wanted to make but couldn't. Amazing video, couldn't've did this better! wait you're telling me could'nt've isn't a thing?

[@tyquil825]

I think what the fandom forgets the most is that Sans is super weak. He doesn’t have the brute strength like Undyne or Asgore, but instead has knowledge. Realistically, in any other timeline where Frisk didn’t kill every monster, he couldn’t lay a scratch on you. But in this specific timeline he’s a threat, not cause he’s strong, but because he’s willing to fight dirty and use everything he has not to win, cause you’ll just come back, but to whittle down your determination

[@張謙-n3l]

I think not only Sans, everything happened in neutral and pacific route is very underrated, most fanmade contents are highly focused on genocide run <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="425">7:05</a> I guess Sans probably had a very complicated feeling at that time, maybe not because of his promise to Toriel, but because Frisk was acting kind towards everyone, singing with Shyren, while they killed the one who deserved to live most, Papyrus Besides Sans, it's quite funny to think about the fact that in neutral runs, Alphys keeps lying, but the part she talk about creating a machine to erase human, is real

[@Fusednebula]

FINALLY! I hate fannon sans, when i talk to fans most see him as his boss battle or depression/angst. I love silly goblin sans and especially how human he is.

[@sirmetaknight1]

Sans is my favorite character in the game!

[@Dorked]

Totally valid, tbh. He has a lot going for him, and it's really no surprise he became the most popular character.

[@youtubebobguy]

The fandom makes games where sans thinks he can actually beat you, in game he knows he can't, he just tries to troll you to make you give up or reset the game. The fandom needs to fix that for the games for a starter

[@wandereringshadow8658]

I always personally saw Sans's memories were more like a 'Deja Vu" type of thing. He doesn't know EXACTLY what happened or whats going on, just that something always felt a little off to him.

[@thatdaybeforetomorrow2290]

The thing about Sans I see a LOT of people overlook is the fact that he does, in fact, keep his promise in genocide. His entire goal during the fight is to get you to QUIT before you do something irreversible, he's still trying to protect you and maybe get you to change. It's just that at that point, the only thing that seems to speak to you is unrelenting physical violence. After all, if he fails, you REALLY aren't going to like what happens next =) (There's also the fact all of Sans' dialogue can apply to both Frisk and the player without him knowing of our existence which I always thought was really cool)

[@Betta-c3w]

I didn’t know our fandom is THAT lost, that you decided to make the whole analysis for actually the MOST popular character in the game.

[@Betta-c3w]

I didn’t know our fandom is THAT lost, that you decided to make the whole analysis for actually the MOST popular character in the game.

[@ScarletPhoenix0]

Dorked I remember you'vere COMIC FONT SKELETON BELOWSTORY EXAMINATIONS

[@PoyoPowerPlant]

Sans is a complex character that shouldn't be held to extremes like "caring so much" and "not caring at all." If we can interpret him in any accurate way, it won't be black and white.

[@F3lipe-u8x]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="131">2:11</a> Not only that but Frisk already turns to Sans before he can complete his dialogue and he simply holds out his hand and Frisk shakes it. Maybe Frisk theyself was curious to see his reaction if they did something unexpected.

[@KingofLalaland]

sans is such a good character but I dislike how the fandom edgy-fied him beyond comparison. People compare him to the secret bosses, even though jevil and spamton share way more in common with chara and asriel than him. sans is much more compatible with Seam with their mysterious yet friendly nature. sans at his core is an elusive jokester who lost faith in the world, wants to forget his (Gaster related) past, and wants to help his brother with his more optimistic life. He is way more interesting than the anime protagonist the fandom makes him out to be.

[@Dorked]

I think the comparisons may be due to how Sans in many regards feels like Undertale's secret boss? Given that unless you know of the route and how to trigger it, it basically is hidden behind some of the most obtuse, tedious gameplay decisions. In terms of difficulty, he also fills a similar niche (but so does Undying). I think as a character, he does have more in common with Seam, though.

[@KingofLalaland]

@@Dorkedya I can see that, then there’s the theory that seam will be fightable on the weird route with megalovania (which has a habit of showing up in all of Toby’s projects)

[@grianjuju9438]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1748">29:08</a> and if you go back to the previous checkpoint after killing him, he can piece together what probably happened, and it gives me goosebumps just thinking about it, his last fuck you card is sort of wasted on a monster that might want to kill him again.

[@Beegsire]

TS Underswap has to be the most faithful fan-iteration of Sans I've ever seen. He's just nailed.

[@Dorked]

God, I need to go back and finish the second section. I was a betatester and got pretty far in an earlier build but got so busy that I never went back to do the full experience.

[@Beegsire]

@@Dorked I'd heavily recommend, it's incredible fun and has some really spectacular moments with the Skeleton Bros (as well as the new characters that I won't say anything on).

[@dull1831]

I wrote this before but before I watch the video, this is how I'd describe Sans: a person who yearns to return to something he can't have, while not having enough faith in the future to truly commit or believe in it.

[@monke7919]

"Sam's tells you fried snow is unhealthy amd not to trust anyone who offers it to you, ironic givek his hotdogs stand" I mean there's also the fact that he tries selling you fried snow as a joke but the hotdogs thing works to I guess

[@JuanCarlosSanchez-oo3sz]

I wanna see a Part 2 on Papyrus and how he truly is the most important character in Undertale and what role he'll eventually play in Deltarune.

[@Dorked]

I actually did do a Papyrus character analysis YEARS ago that's in the playlist! It only focuses on UT because it was made a while ago, though I did do some separate videos on the skelebros in DR and a popular theory.

[@JuanCarlosSanchez-oo3sz]

@@Dorked I've seen then, but lately the "Blink Motherf@$ker" Tumblr post about Papyrus being secretly OP, the "Papyrus is the Knight" Deltarune Theory, and then the implications of a majority of that makes Papyrus, well Papyrus, is all related to the underground which means Deltarune Papyrus is gonna be a vastly different character. And as we know that Toby Fox likes to bring back scrapped concepts, there's a possibility that Incel Beta Papyrus could actually (and I hope and pray that it ain't) be a thing in Deltarune. Point is that if you really think about it, Papyrus is just as mysterious, if not even more mysterious than sans.

[@CuantumQ]

I'm contlicted whether or not Sans can remember stuff between reloads. Like. Yeah, he does say that he's just reading Frisk's facial expressions and by that he's guessing the amount of times they died and he also has a password set up just to prove time travelers, which both imply that he can't remember between reloads. But at the same time, being able to accurately count how many deaths we have just by our expressions is very far fetched. Yeah, he could probably tell 'oh, the human's mad, they probably just ate dirt' and 'the human is seriously fed up, they've probably been at it for a while' but counting accurately is very different. Plus, Sans loves to mess with us. A lot of his comedy bits come from him making it unclear what he knows and how aware he is the nature of the game. He could be saying the expression thing just to further get under our skin and the password could just be to mess with us. A lot of what Sans says can't be taken at face value, especially when it comes to meta stuff. Do I personally believe he remembers? I'm uncertain. I think it fits better if he can't, but I wouldn't be surprised if he could.

[@Dorked]

I suspect he has some way to preserve information and research BETWEEN loads, at least, maybe in his lab? There's some way he's able to track the timeline anomalies, even if he cannot remember everything directly.

[@crypt5129]

It's not like he's always right with the counting, he gets it wrong at some point before correcting himself and eventually he just stops counting because there's only so much information he can get from a single facial expression. It also helps that various characters including him are shown to have deja vu after resets, he just knows not to dismiss it

[@admiren]

so basically remember that sans is sans undertale who the fandom has twisted into oblivion

[@mihaitirlea2509]

In conclusion: sans does not, in fact, remember our'e genocides.

[@uselessshroob]

Actually, Sans is a hypergod with laser eyes who remembers your genocides and he can come out of the computer and kissed me on my forehead and tells me he loves me. Sorry, your vid is wrong; reported.

[@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf]

Don’t forget about the dust trust, The bedtime trio(you heard that right), all the dusttale games etc.

[@explode4356]

​@@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf MY MEMORIES! YOU'RE DELETING THEM!

[@nameman9997]

*you’re

[@Plaguedocwhoneedsabreak]

I know Canon Sans is important but I like my AUs and ATs, like Underswap or Underfell or even Horrortale, just wondering what could happen in a different set of circumstances is what makes the AUs good for me, so I don’t want to feel like I’m getting Sans wrong if I like them.

[@Dorked]

Just to be clear, this video is less to shit on fanworks and more just a refresher on Sans as depicted by Toby because it's easy for the baseline character to be obscured with time. I made Inverted Fate, so it'd be weird if I hated AUs. xD

[@jrafa0723]

Ah yes, a sans character in-depth analysis. A good vid to watch while i eat lasagna with chicken. Here have some cookies: 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

[@Dorked]

Garfield would approve.

[@pliskin101]

Undertale is one of the few games that made me cry. Sans talking about Papyrus during his battle hits me hard.

[@IvoryMadness.]

It made my cry, too.

[@peyton-yg5cq]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="101">1:41</a> "Human I remember you're... Patrick Star"

[@allnwhite2445]

OH MY GOD, SANDS UNDERTALE??? But yeah, I dunno why people go for "omg, Sans remember resets" the game basically throw in your face that he just have a nice assuming skill. and the extreme emotional or psychopath pun bag are gross opposites. I just wish people realise that Sans is literally just a fricking character you wanna know a character more probable of knowing about resets and everything? Gerson or Alphys. why people simple shit for Alphys' capacity to do basically anything? she literally have the political power to move the entire underground, knows about DT and if Genocide made any sense, she could simply make The Core and Hotland impassible Fortresses.

[@Dorked]

Alphys gets so many awful takes in this fandom, and it's really disheartening. That's why she was one of my first big character analysis videos, because I was so frustrated at all the really bizarre and bad faith takes about her. o_o

[@LegendrySoldiers]

Yeah, the fanon has really changed Sans as a character. The whole apathy interpitation I understand to a extent since does kinda allued to it, and it makes sense considering what he knows and his situation. Still, at the same time his eye glows with Cyan/Paitience, him waiting for untill the near end to confront the Player made a lot of sense once I noted the color of his eye glow, I've seen poeple does stuff with yellow/Justice side of things. In general, I feel like the fact that his eyes glows with those specific colors doesn't get enough attention. Heck KR in a way ties into the eye glow, it's a slow acting poison that gets stronger based on the target's karma.

[@Dorked]

This is a great addition, too! There's definitely a lot of interesting color symbolism you can read into Sans, and what's interesting is that the karma system was apparently going to be a bigger deal at one point in the game.

[@TheeEnglishLesbian]

im so happy to see this. even though sans is heavily talked about, no one really talks about the intricacies of his character, cant wait to watch!

[@Dorked]

Yeah, Sans has a lot of videos and materials out there, but I really wanted to go into his in-game characterization because a lot of the hype surrounding him tends to focus on one or two things, when there's really a lot to him.

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

i noticed a lot of my love for mettaton comes from fanfic so itd be cool if youd consider doing a mettaton analysis

[@Dorked]

Mettaton got a fair bit of votes in the patron poll, too, so that'll probably be a future topic.

[@romanrepublic1356]

Comment for the algorithm

[@Dorked]

Appreciation for appeasing the algorithm!

[@RandomGamesH]

Human, I remember you’re analysis

[@jonathanhowells7864]

Any chance you can do an in-depth video on how every final fight (including Asgore) twists the formula in a unique way not only making each battle memorable mechanically speaking but how it subverts what is typical in the game?

[@Dorked]

Ooh, like Asgore, Photoshop Flowey, and Asriel's fights and how they compare? That's an interesting prospect.

[@jonathanhowells7864]

And Sans

[@Ammiteur9]

I feel like you just saved Sans for me. He actually was my favourite character shortly after I finished Undertale for the first time, and hadn't really interacted with it much yet, but seeing how much he overshadowed every other character, when I slowly got into the fandom, it really soured him for me (I would never call a character or piece of media bad because they're popular btw, but I'm sadly not immune to liking them less when that happens) It's really nice to get reminded that there actually is a lot to love about Sans, and funnily, you really showed me that I can actually relate to some of his character traits. Amazing video as always!

[@ImPrettySureThisIsMax]

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS HIM RIGHT. Sans is my favorite character in the game, and it honestly kinda hurts to see the fandom water him down like this. He isn’t some overpowered, overly emotional, and protective brother, nor is he an uncaring, pathetic excuse for an individual. He’s just some guy doing funny things for laughs who will bend the rules when necessary and cares about his brother.

[@fed3758]

My favorite part of undertale was when sans said- GRRR, NOW IM REALLY MAD >:((( and proceeded to regenerate his health And like pull out a bone knife And also pull out lightning hands And also he becomes god.

[@t0nyxaka90]

...Welp. Now I feel somewhat guilty regarding the note I left UT with after the Pacifist and Beyond section of the video. Y'see, I had UT on the Switch and completed it to a Pacifist run... and then reset to try and do Genocide, like many. Except I screwed up and it led to it becoming a High-LV Neutral Run. I remember that I was at the last SAVE Point, before Asgore's battle... and then some time later, I lost the Switch. This was all back in 2021, and I still have no idea where my Switch went, but it's most likely largely screwed at this point. Because of this, it really does make me go "oof" because I never gave Sans or anyone else the happy ending, all because I lost the console. Stories aside, this is another great video! Love the thumbnail btw, did you sprite the masks on it?

[@GoshiWorld]

Actually, I'm working on my own undertale, AU, called Monitail (it puts Monika from ddlc into undertale's, particularly the end of Act 3 Monika) During sans's judgment, give the normal Spiel to Frisk, and then he says, "I could say the same for you, Monika if we're just looking at the time that you spend in the underground" He proceeds to go on saying that she probably killed out of desperation and continues reading her like the poems that she writes

[@nappa1381]

Fanon Sans: Either an absolute memelord or an edgy nihilist who wants to atomize every bone in your body for looking at Papyrus wrong. Canon Sans: wisecracking funny skull man who just wants to live his life and understandably gets upset when you kill people

[@mattgiess7233]

I always thought that the line “we can’t judge humans as all good or all bad” from the papyrus ruler ending was really great. It has a cool double meaning in showing San’s fairness towards humans as well as likely his perspective on the player. He recognizes that you killed some people who probably didn’t deserve it (mainly Toriel) but recognized the good in his brother and spared him. So he can’t judge you as purely evil.

[@FusionForceGabriel]

Brought me a memory where there was a theory of sans being...uh...a human character? Or was steven, idk, but ig that's how i got myself into undertale (though considering i was young, one of those video scared me, lmao)

[@Clash_781]

Fanon Sans is what happens when you look at character moments without context.

[@Spacebums]

Unrelated to the video itself, thank GOD for a youtuber talking about UT without calling the No Mercy route a genocide run. We love to see people actually respecting Toby's desire for people to not call it that.

[@cycloneabsol9405]

It's fan-made, but this is by far my favorite line to highlight how Sans actually cares very deeply: "You think you can spare me like I'm some pawn? Well you didn't spare my brother, so get dunked on!"

[@starmaker75]

I feel like this video show how the fandom mischaracterized and over use him for fan works. I remeber seeing a artwork where all the sans oc where different undertale and deltaruen characters and it was more interesting. Again use more characters people. It one of the reason why i appeicste fanwork thay focus on characters like the dremmurrs like future past, growth spurt, etc (would said your work inverted fate, but i hadn't really read it) Thay being said, i do like sans. I always like the chill and straight man and snarker foil to the hot head goofyball. Also i do like the scence where sans get real with you.

[@ninjawolfgame]

i personally believe in Sans being lazy as him just overworking himself to hell and back. someone's gotta pay the bills on that giant house.

[@thenobody7509]

I'll be honest. My view of sans is he does sort of remember resets. But thats because he isnt from UT but DR. Im 100% convinced the ending of DR is destruction with sans and Us the player being the only two survivors.

[@hanaheaven9058]

Finally, this video is well made. Now i don't have any excuse to not write fanfiction because all the information is here. thank you.

[@ssomenerdd]

The amount of misconceptions, memes and overall amount of sans in anything made by fans, sometimes makes me forget how good sans is. But then I look back at things like his battle dialogue and ESPECIALLY the dinner scene at MTT resort , only to remember that in the end he really is a funny, intriguing, and overall one of the best characters This game has to offer.

[@bobear3541]

The fact that even flowey tells you to watch out for sans is very terrifying. It’s sans alone that prevented me from ever replaying genocide. I am terrified of sans even though i should have never.

[@leopoldosoto779]

You know it would be funny if the fandom just use the "fanon" sans base characterization to make a parody sans "equivalent". Like not the same character but like a funny parody like "fanontale" from soundcloud.

[@phoenixwright2420]

Interesting breakdown, Glad to see sans protrayed as someone of compassion more than just Jaded OP boss who just doesn't care anymore

[@DragonSirenHITOMI]

this video has made be have a thought. what if deltarune is meant to be before undertale? it would make a lot of since in that case regarding the "can't go back" with sans's lab and broken mechine... just a game placement thought

[@auramaster2068]

I wonder if the anomaly might be something from Deltarune, given the “everything ends” line could refer to the roaring.

[@supergogetamario]

I've always had the interpitation that Sans never remembers outside a vauge feeling and his perception helping him realize what's wrong. But the entire fandom thought him remembering made for better angst so ran with it.

[@brennovelocimetro]

I think that something that adds in the sans mischaracterization is the fact that he is always smiling. Like, every time, at every moment, how this guy is smiling after her brother's death? How he's smiling after everyone he knows was killed? This sounds very apathic, if you tell me

[@gg.420]

He not remember but literally know what you thinking thought your expression. This is easily the most common sense if you actually play the games. 😒😒😒

[@QwertyPlatypus]

bro i thought mickey mouse was narrating this video for a second like what 😭

[@greenhydra10]

The more I consider Sans, the more like him I realize I am, and usually not in a good way. So this is sure to be... interesting.

[@mr.j3rs3y]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="95">1:35</a> I guess he canonically sounds like Patrick Star. No changing my mind now!

[@bleu6897]

thank you so much i’ve been waiting for this vid! sans is my all time favorite character it just sucks so much that over the years he’s been mischaracterized to hell