Touhou 15: Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom - Extra Stage

[@cdg670]

Lol. I never noticed that before, but if you look closely, you can see the sprites blinking. Nice detail, ZUN.

[@amatsua1271]

Can't blame you when we're too busy trying not to die.

[@amatsua1271]

@@memphisbyron6467 wow, I didn't realize scammers are now posting on comments of comments. I don't think it's even worth the time, personally.

[@amatsua1271]

If anyone comes to look at this and thinks it might be real, both Memphis and Ernie have made accounts less than a week ago and have done nothing but write comments. That website will probably steal your info.

[@MegamanOmega184]

Yeah, him and around 10 others just commented about the same thing across my channel at the same time. All of them replying to someone's comments, probably since if I didn't have the KZbin Studio app, I wouldn't have seen them...

[@cdg670]

Eh? I just got the notifications. What happened here? o.O

[@catboywizard]

hecatia is so tough that defeating her only makes her outfit cooler

[@WatatsukiNoToyohime]

Meanwhile Junko is just looking same as always, defeated or not

[@therunawaygirl5096]

Surprised to see that you didn't notice Junko flashing for a split second at 0 seconds in the time-out spell. Good thing that you died before that? And yes, people. Junko will kill you right at the last second of the spellcard if you're in the center. How? With her pure angry appearance.

[@MegamanOmega184]

Huh, I thought that flashing just means she was really close to dying.

[@therunawaygirl5096]

Nope. There are various videos that show that. Wish I had the URL to share it with you, but you can look it up, right? But, yeah... It's pretty effing mean

[@maxdefolsch]

I just beat this Extra Stage (thanks to this video !) and this bullshit happened to me in a previous run. That was infuriating.

[@sanstheskeleton679]

@@therunawaygirl5096 Ya had me on the floor laughing for some reason Guess I have a weird sense of humor huh

[@josephayala5727]

@@MegamanOmega184 it's ok megaman omega. We all make mistakes. Whenever I can't seem to beat a final boss in a game, I just calm down and take deep breaths

[@Se--Se]

LoLK extra: goddess of hot topics fights Marisa because she bullied Junko.

[@Veryfreshveryflourish24]

I love how chill hecatia and junko are with revenge.

[@wontyoubeagoodsister]

“Hey junko, how’s it going” “Nice, just wondering when to attack the lunar capital, same old same old” “Ah, nice”

[@KuromiScarlet5030]

Imagine fighting clownpiece with Hecatia in lunatic mode Pure traumatized moments

[@HouraisanShijuushichi]

18:26 pristine danmaku for killing a person

[@qnybucks]

it's such a blatant name lmao.

[@hecateb581]

that epic gamer moment when LoLK is the first touhou game you’ve beaten,,, not on extra cause I can barely play pointdevice easy cause y’know...never played bullet hell before... either way thanks for the advice and video I’m gonna go cry over how insane this game is

[@karnifall]

Congrats

[@tyboy158]

congrats on beating the game

[@Leslaliun]

now all other touhou bullet hell games will be a piece of cake for you

[@Bronyfur05]

And here I was feeling amazing because DDC was my first 1CC

[@KaosFireMaker]

the dancing to the music during the dialogue is adorable Marissas "A'ight then" is hilarious. It speaks volumes of "so long as its after it being my problem, I don't care"

[@Merciless_Marbles]

I just realized that Junko's husband is Hou Yi, an archer. And his wife is Chang'e but she ate something and became a moon goddess. There's a Chinese legend saying Hou Yi shoots the (9) sun, and the sun is a star

[@SGalliver]

Junko and Chang'e come from differrent story. And their husband is different person too. He just have the same name but different China characters. So ZUN mix the two story together. First story is about Chang'e. The heaven have some kind of game of thrones. Result in have 9 suns. Cause an over heat to the earth. Houyi the archer go on a quest to shoot down the sun. He got an immortal elixir as an reward. And here the story split into 2 ending. If Houyi's goodness point is low, he will become a tyrant emperor. To prevent Houyi to become immortal tyrant. Chang'e steal the elixir and eat it. The side effect make Chang'e can fly. So she fly away to the moon and become moon goddess. 2nd story is Junko. Junko is an empress. But Houyi kill her husband the emperor, make himself emperor, take Junko as his wife and later kill her son. So Junko plan to take revenge and kill him.

[@sanstheskeleton679]

Now I wonder If Hecatia would've brought in all three bodies, would she have been a Phantasm stage boss?

[@smilinggeneral8870]

9 moons. good luck

[@sadfate5957]

Why are you here? Nehhh just kidding😂😂

[@waterized_bottle]

Wait does Phantasm stage only appeared on PCB or not?

[@crystaljon]

@@waterized_bottle Only PCB. Any other Phantasm stages in other games are fan-made.

[@kaisercalvin1742]

HydraCorex, I notice you called her clownpiss. Funny. Is it because she is ridiculous in difficulty and makes you insane?

[@incandescence5547]

For Hecatia's first nonspell, Junko was counted as an enemy before she left and you'll have to graze 400 since you'll only get 50% shotdown.

[@PKWeegee1337]

Oh dang, good fricking job on that. This is definitely the most insane extra stage (and touhou game in general) out there. I am simply...amazed

[@kalecavanaugh4067]

6:30 there is a safe spot if you just go right next to the fairy

[@haoju6368]

Yup exactly! The exact safe spot for the last 3 faries before you see Hecatia will be with your hitbox on the intersection of 2 tangents: with the left of your hitbox tangent to the rightmost of "Shooting down" at the last chapter finish; and with the bottom of your hitbox tangent to the green line under the number of bombs.

[@eddieedengarden]

*music of the end starts* hOLY SHITODO, IS FASHION TIME!

[@zamirmustafich1655]

RetPow AND PRESENT WORLD OVERHAUL

[@larky5061]

Stolen Omscience And Omnipotence AND SPELLCARD-SEPTION

[@Tulipia5]

Another thing that happen with Hecatia is that when you get too close to her she shoots some littles stars And when you kill Junko at the end, Hecatia is not really hurt (neither Junko) and the battle is quicker... but I feel safer killing Hecatia first

[@charlesbrioche6745]

I like to call Hecatia as Hottopic Lapislazuli from now on

[@jadeng.s.2549]

10:10 The Same reason Gengetsu fights you in LLS

[@pelandes3549]

Ominous distorted dialogue box Omega is ominous...

[@waterized_bottle]

Such Ominous...

[@TheBenchLord]

Thanks, Cinemasins

[@luthierisbestboy8177]

Good thing you can unlock this stage after clearing Pointdevice Mode. I was actually quite surprised, especially since I recently completed Pointdevice Normal mode with Reisen, and it took me 861 retries. (I was playing LoLK to hopefully increase my endurance while playing Touhou.) I thought you had to not get hit at all or something to unlock this game's Extra stage if you try to unlock it with Pointdevice.

[@nathanielproenzagarcia1608]

This guy is a Touhou Pro Player

[@descartes2404]

There is one thing I'm confused about. Junko and Hecate motives for their revenge attempt at Chang'e. Junko: Chang'e is the wife of the guy who take junko son life. Hecate: Chang'e husband shoots down one of her star. Isnt the main culprit here is chang'e husband? Then why go against the wife when u should have go against the husband? Oh yeah if junko and hecatia want to kill off the lunarians, they should have just transferred are the waste and trash from the human world into the lunarian capital.

[@melamichan8949]

I think the same -_-;

[@wdg2384]

Junko already killed him after that (i think that if you do a Pointdevice/Perfect run with Reisen, they tell you that.), but still, she wanted to ALSO kill Chang'e, but that's impossible 'cuz Chang'e is in the lunarian prison by comit drincc of da infinite lives elixir

[@exxiduss6859]

@@wdg2384 But isn't Chang'e immortal?

[@wdg2384]

@@exxiduss6859 i... literally referenced that.

[@exxiduss6859]

@@wdg2384 Oh, I tought you meant that it was impossible because she was in the lunarian prison, and that's why Junko tried to clear the Capital So Junko is unaware of her immortality?

[@jadebayoba7073]

18:43 Thank god im a Reimu Main

[@jacersaygo7341]

Great! now do it with Mari- oh wait...

[@bashily2844]

10:16, is that a JoJo Reference I see?

[@unfortunatefart]

no it’s only japanese letters not only jojo has japanese letters wtf

[@minepose98]

@@unfortunatefart No, it absolutely is. ZUN isn't averse to putting jojo references in his work.

[@zamirmustafich1655]

Now that you completed Hell What are you going to play next? 15.5? Len'en?

[@prizmastarz742]

YES PLS LEN'EN 3 And i think he'll wait for updates on 2hu 15.5 (since it's still having missing spellcards)

[@MegamanOmega184]

I mean... come on guys, I said I'm playing non-mainline Touhou games at the end of the video, and played a few seconds of one of the boss songs of the game I'm playing next. I think you guys can figure out what I'm playing next~

[@Pokecatchofthestars]

Someone in this thread already called it right. It's time for the FA-SHION SHOW.

[@Yuureiki]

HSiFS?

[@zamirmustafich1655]

MegamanOmega OMG FA-SHION SHOW AND OVERHAUL IS NEXT BAYBEE

[@CrestedPeak9]

The three deathfairies at 6:00... have a safespot. As Reisen, you want your right main shot to align with the fourth petal in the purple section of the UI on top. Not sure of the positioning as other shots, but the safespot is rather large and gives you a ton of graze.

[@MegamanOmega184]

Sonofa... I had a feling there was a distinct trick to them...

[@therunawaygirl5096]

I think Reisen's the only one that can use that safespot with ease due to her piercing shot. Might be wrong

[@marcar9marcar972]

24:22 this is the most A’ight situation I can think of

[@animeking213]

so this was my first touhou game XD I searched touhou and chose 15 at random. I played it in normal mode too and as soon as i made it to the lunar capital i gave up (point device) and beat it on easy. I am actually a fan of point device idk why tho?

[@OkamiKai6980]

Maybe because: 1. You will get a perfect run no matter how many times you died. 2. You'll gt to save data on the mode, unlike legacy(which is the old-fashioned touhou mode), you have to restart the entire thing.

[@janmarcoperezbatres2203]

You picked 1 of the 2 hardest touhous to start with. Damn.

[@OkamiKai6980]

@@janmarcoperezbatres2203 thank god they didn't choose SA

[@pelinkorkmaz3161]

This stage is just A World of Nightmares Never Seen Before.

[@MajraMangetsu]

If you think about it , the Son and the Stars are supose to be the same person.

[@Elijahyang118]

Yeah, those patterns are extremely deadly

[@Team_Orchid]

4:24 So, uh, how long have you had that face at the ready? Also why is the queen of hell a valley girl and WHERE WAS SHE DURING TOUHOU 11?!

[@gabrielwright-dunn9355]

New Hell?

[@FredWood41]

Hecatia is basically Eikis boss

[@hoppefrosk]

Higan is where souls go to be judged before being sent off to Hell or Hakugyokurou before they return to the cycle of reincarnation. Eiki is Yuyuko's boss, and Hecatia is one of Eiki's superiors in turn, "one of the leaders of her organization" according to Eiki. The whole afterlife system in Touhou can be a bit bureaucratic sometimes. Old Hell used to be Hell, until they had to relocate due to an increasing number of souls, at which point the oni and other shunned youkai from aboveground moved in and made it their home.

[@gypsysprite4824]

@@FredWood41 HEctatia is basicaly the enmas' boss, it's the enmas who are Eiki's boss

[@descartes2404]

@@gypsysprite4824 eiki is an enma

[@dungeonmaster3464]

I'd argue with your end cirques that, while the have is very luck based, and I agree this should be one of the first touhou games you beat, I don't think you necessarily need to "beat" bit. This was the third touhou game I played, but I never had any allusions about 1cc-ing it. Between Reison's bomb being so ridiculous the the other characters also seeming more powerful that other games, I think LoLK is one of the most fun touhou games to just play. If you aren't aiming to 1cc it, then it isn't nearly as punishing. And the ridiculousness of the spell cards goes from annoying to entertaining.

[@zhyuu.]

i keep noticing that he keeps dancing when junko and marisa were talking e

[@gabrielwright-dunn9355]

So when Hactia starts to moon people, it gets out of control? Also, I was kind of hoping that rainbow train was a ship instead.

[@shirukutsuki3983]

Oh my... looks like we're fighting a fashion show and a melon next. Speaking of len'en, what do you think about the upcoming games (Monochrome world and Book of the Cafe)?

[@MegamanOmega184]

I think I'd like JynX to hurry up and reveal more about them already... In all seriousness though, they look interesting (even though I have no interest in playing a cafe management game. Though I am curious how he plans on making that "majorly plot relevant"). Similarly for Monochrome World, though that one I am more interested in playing his first experiment with 2D action games. But really I just want the guy to talk more about them, cause we still don't know much of anything outside of what was told when they were announced.

[@olivier2309]

Pretty cool that the extra stage boss has French sniper rifles named after her. (Hécate II)

[@Eradrazil]

Oh man, Reactivate Majestical Imperial up next? Man am I looking forward to that. It's gonna be a darn good fashion show ;)

[@yuwyu4841]

"as such, only go for this game if youve got some serious experience under your belt. dont play this first, second, or third." i played it after i played pcb, im stuck at clownpiece on both normal and easy tho lol (better than being stuck at just a l i c e in pcb tbh)

[@konstantinsotov6251]

27:05 what is that music?

[@GUMPAAful]

Okay so i want to hear your opinion , what dp you think about the story of the past games ? Like 14.5 , 15, 15.5 and 16 . They are getting more story involve than any other game like tthe destruction of the barrier in 14.5 , the almost genocide of the moon from 15, the two goddess and dream self appearing in Gensokyo in 15.5 and the appearing of a new sage in 16. So whats your opinion in the story ? Also i was wondering Doremy was fighting Hecatia all this time and why exactly she attack you in the extra , i thought maybe Sagume leave a memento to Doremy or something.

[@MegamanOmega184]

It's been interesting and it ultimately has me curious about where Touhou's gonna go from here for the first time in a while (the introduction of Okina really shook things up and I'm curious to see what happens now that we finally have another Yukari-tier sage roaming about) I do like the story that's going on, but I hesitate to say they're more "story involved" rather it just feels like this is the theme of the newest "arc" of Touhou. Touhou 6-8 was an introduction arc, Touhou 10 & 12-13-5 was a religious war arc, and now we have Touhou 14-16+ being a "let's mess with the foundation of Gensokyo" arc. And as for Doremy, considering the sheer power Hecatia has that ZUN confirmed, I don't think Doremy was "fighting" Heca, rather just staying out of her way. Similarly I feel she attacked you either cause she's sick of people barging into the Dream World left, right, and center. Or for similar reasons to why she fought you as a Stage 3 boss, cause she knows the dangers that are up ahead.

[@TheDarkMarioAndSonic]

MegamanOmega pretty sure 10 can be considered part of the whole "religion wars" arc.

[@rpgfans4537]

Playing as Marisa make this looks so much harder

[@smilinggeneral8870]

i dont think so......you need to move fast in this stage so i think marisa is viable only for the extra.

[@SerpentYoukai]

@@smilinggeneral8870 That’s only going to help you in the Extra Stage. The Boss will be pretty merciless on Marisa because of her restricted Range with her Danmaku.

[@wesleyishizu3634]

see, i started with this game, and now im numb to everything this series has to throw at me... probably

[@LunaticFullMoon]

So hey you would actually have won if you bombed on Doremy's last spell, funny how things work out. Man Hecatia is still the only extra boss I haven't beaten, she's way too crazy for me.

[@tomlynmathewsjr7514]

FUCK YES REACTIVATE MAJESTIC IMPERIAL NEXT BOIS LET'S GO LET'S SEE THAT YABUSAME/TSUBAKURA RUN!

[@dimxplode6029]

Me parece gracioso que al final estabas moviendo a marisa al ritmo de la música xd

[@WishMakers]

On the bright side, nothing harder than this! You finally did it. (Until you tackle Hard or eventually Lunatic... Although resources are much easier to get on those difficulties). Len'en 3, eh? This will be interesting.

[@theanti-person9113]

well touhou 16 extra is quite hard with Marisa and Omega doesn't play as Reimu y'know

[@Angeloniccraft]

(10:17) is that a joko reference?

[@extremmefan7305]

> Trinitarian Rhapsody > Rhapsody For some reason I imagine Tenshi flipping a table there Also "she could've made it four on one if she wanted" heh, Flandre did that already. ;D Also "and this is why you don't f** with the queen of hell" nah that'd be Shinki

[@Mixtry425]

this game is insane that would make me sleep and tired how i see the bullet like hypenotize

[@lucane8172]

I liked your opinion in the last minutes of this video, I have the same thoughts as you.

[@mrrp405]

i came here for the junko reactions

[@brantontucker6734]

4:21 did you ACTUALLY go insane

[@TheDarkMarioAndSonic]

27 minutes, ey? Pretty sure this qualifies as your longest (non-script or fighting game) video. Well, I suppose it's only natural it would happen in LoLK's Extra Stage.

[@RealityMasterRogue]

Have you seen "lunatic impact but hecatia doesnt stop firing moons"

[@MegamanOmega184]

Why... why the frick is that a thing...

[@larky5061]

The return of len'en :o

[@Yuureiki]

Woah this was uploaded yesterdae.

[@theanti-person9113]

May I know when you're planning on taking on HSiFS and VD? I'm curious of your 16.5 reactions lol. That game has some serious shit going on... There is a spell in the game which is harder than Satori's Vague Recollection of Kinkaku-Ji.

[@MegamanOmega184]

After I finish Len'en 4 I'll be playing AoCF, HSiFS then VD before going back to playing fangames.

[@theanti-person9113]

quite excited for your Violet Detector first impressions... there is some interesting stuff going on there... though there are some interesting spells in the game but some are just aggravating and on par with Double Spoiler Day 9 if not worse also I bet you'll like HSiFS, its difficulty is on par with UFO and LoLK but the attacks are rather interesting in my opinion (though there are still a few which are just simply aggravating)

[@baby_omega]

NO CLOWNPIECE? THE CLOWNPIECE IN LEGACY OF LUNATIC KINGDOM

[@orcinus2104]

she could've made it 4-0n-1 plus the crazy fairy, then no one would stand a chance

[@Treeexe-cv8mf]

Who will win? Hecatia: like Yukari: comment

[@yamahadx7synthesiser]

Hmm

[@dawk7]

Wait, Book of Star Mythology is in the Next Game list? _Yes, please!_

[@alonso5090]

poor junko :,c

[@SodaSizzle]

12:10 im stuck at this nonspell

[@AzuRemilia]

First and Last Nameless Danmaku glitched a Little bit. Why did Hecatia have Junko's Aura/ Leaf/ WhateverInLoveOfOkinaIsIt?

[@captaintsubasa7430]

*ゴ ゴ ゴ ゴ*

[@alphamoon8367]

Hecatia sure is menacing all right.

[@KuroJalanJalan]

I want to ask, how many month you practice for this? your play is good and mostly can got right timing while you dodge the bullets

[@MegamanOmega184]

On average the game itself takes about 2 weeks to beat as does the extra stage, generally with a few hours of play every day.

[@KuroJalanJalan]

@@MegamanOmega184 wtf that so fast, thanks for your advice. is good to watch your gameplay.

[@minhkhangtran6948]

Hm...though Hecatia's first spell is called Minotaur's Maze or something, have ZUN change it?

[@MegamanOmega184]

Hmmm... no idea. On the wiki it says it was always called Otherworld "Ōmagatoki" since it was first put up. The only example of anything Minotaur Maze related in Touhou I've seen is one if Suika's Spell Cards in Concealed the Conclusion, Oni Illusion "Minotaur's Labyrinth" kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoezg5yCaJKBpKMm6s

[@minhkhangtran6948]

Oh yeah! The pattern is ridiculously similar, so I got it mixed up. Thank you for reminding me.

[@maxoublue1]

I personally think that Pointdevice mode could come back, but the game needs to be based around Legacy mode(however, it would probably bring the same problems that Fire Emblem has with Casual mode).

[@MegamanOmega184]

I think the problem is that Point Device is too easy to play. Honestly it's just trail and error and you can beat it in an afternoon. Following that, Legacy mode with a game that's balanced around Point Device is like marathoning one of the camera games or Impossible Spell Card without dying. Point Device can probably work, but the aforementioned gameplay of Legacy Mode needs to be changed about so it's balanced around Legacy Mode rather than the same gameplay Point Device has.

[@maxoublue1]

No offense,but that's what i'm talking about, make the gameplay based around Legacy mode, where pattern are more based on,let's say, DDC, but make Point Device mode something that can make beginners more comfortable with playing if this is their first time playing(again, kinda like Casual Mode in Fire Emblem).

[@danielokit1619]

After weeks or months of trying (I lost count) I did it i beat Hecatia now onto touhou 6 it can't be that hard right?

[@jangkrikah]

LoLK was my 2nd touhou, and the only touhou I ever completed purely because it have pointdevice mode.

[@cyanadofai]

thats literally me

[@ganzzert3477]

LEN"EN 3 PLAYTHROUGH HYPE!!!

[@itzelceja8669]

wait a minute... Chang'e is real?

[@MagicalNadie]

There's a lot of really helpful advice here, but it does make me laugh that a lot of the advice comes down to "go in the gaps between the bullets" lmao 😂 nature of the game I suppose

[@nextcreat]

You need to capture this, or just restart the stage. You only get a 1-up if you dont die or bomb, so bombing aline might as well be considered dying and if you die it's the equivalent of losing two lives... ???

[@MegamanOmega184]

If you die or bomb to that spell you don't get a 1-up, rather you just get a life piece. So if you not only die, but because of that death it makes you miss out on an Extra Life as well you'll be down _two_ from the maximum total you can have when fighting Heca, not just one.

[@animeking213]

theirs a manga?

[@MegamanOmega184]

Yup, ZUN's the author to a whole bunch of Touhou side story manga's that take place alongside the games. Basically tell the story and give more information on characters in the time between incidents. You can see them here under the Print Works section. en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

[@animeking213]

oh alright, thx!

[@ricokurniawan5636]

Don't you normally use the extra stage bgm instead of stage 6 bgm to announce the next game? Also, you may want to postpone playing AoCF until the update is complete.

[@MegamanOmega184]

Eh, sometimes one of the other. I used the Extra theme for Len'en 1 and the final boss for TLC. Whichever one I think is more alarmingly catchy or something for those few seconds I play it.

[@ricokurniawan5636]

Are you avoiding comment from your editor if you use the extra bgm?

[@patchouliknowledge445]

i cant even defeat clownpiece on easy without spam bombing ..yeah i’m bad

[@gurselbasbuyuk1314]

Hey youtuber do you know omega zero and iris?

[@bashily2844]

Which Boss is the hardest Extra/Phantasm boss?

[@MegamanOmega184]

Official games wise I'd say Koishi. Yes this might have had the toughest spells I'd ever faced in an Extra before, but it also had some of the easiest as well, but SA's Extra was more consistently difficult all the way through. Coupled with the cruel resource system (you get life pieces only when you prove you can beat attacks without dying) I'd still call that the toughest one. Though if we're counting fangames into that list I'd put Concealed the Conclusion's Phantasm fight against Reimu, or Riverbed Soul Saver's Phantasm fight against Kiyohime as the toughest Extra/Phantasm I ever did.

[@kizunechao279]

MegamanOmega Huh. No wonder that id hangs out on your channel.

[@dragonixias]

🕸⚫🕸Хекатия совсем несьрёзно проводит весь бой, иначе бы просто размазывала любых задротов игроков.🪅

[@jlever]

Was this worse than Spell Card Collection?

[@MegamanOmega184]

Hard to say. Choice spells and the final spell was harder than this, but those could be retried much faster, plus is was shorter all around. This may not have been _as_ bad, but it was stretched out much further plus the hardest bits were very late in the whole stage ("Lunatic Impact" anybody?)

[@SeleniumGlow]

Wait? Which Mechanical keyboard did you buy? I'd wager a guess that you got a Corsair or a HyperX

[@MegamanOmega184]

Corsair, yup. A buddy of mine recommended their brand of mechanical keyboards. Got a Cherry MX Red switch version cause I saw that had the most sensitive keypresses.

[@poyomonofchaos]

EEEEEEEEEEE SHION CHAAAAAAAAAAN~