Megatheropods: Nature's Biggest Terrestrial Carnivores

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Theropod dinosaurs are the most charismatic terrestrial predators in Earth’s history, with complex ecologies, physiologies, and evolutionary relationships. From movies to books to video games, theropods have left a cultural footprint unlike any other group of extinct vertebrates. And even these terrifying and majestic animals have an elite group within them: the megatheropods.
If all theropods formed the ranks of a military, then these are the officers, the generals, the supreme commanders. There are a few definitions floating around the internet about what exactly a megatheropod is, so here’s a modified version of mine from 2017. A megatheropod is any theropod dinosaur that consistently attains an average adult mass of 5000 kilograms or higher. This definition is more exclusionary than my old video, and that’s because while researching this I put an emphasis on consistency and utilizing multiple mass estimates per species from different sources, which I’ve linked here.
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00:00: What Is A Megatheropod?
00:58: The Tier List
01:31: The Cimmerian Giant
01:53: Saurophaganax
02:27: Edmarka rex
02:51: NHMG 8500
03:23: Oxalaia quilombensis
03:42: Acrocanthosaurus atokensis
04:12: Deinocheirus mirificus
04:48: Therizinosaurus cheloniformis
05:12: Megalosaurus/Torvosaurus ingens
05:37: Carcharodontosaurus saharicus
06:07: The South African Titan
06:33: Tyrannotitan
07:08: Mapusaurus roseae
07:32: Spinosaurinae indet.
07:52: Spinosaurus aegyptiacus
08:27: The Destroyer Tier
08:37: Giganotosaurus carolinii
09:28: Tyrannosaurus rex
Megatheropod Data 2023: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Megatheropod Sources 2023:
docs.google.com/presentation/...
Tyrannotitan Image Source: Brett Booth
Acrocanthosaurus Image Source: Apsaravis
Acrocanthosaurus Hook Claw Study: Senter, Phil; Robins, James H. (2005). "Range of motion in the forelimb of the theropod dinosaur Acrocanthosaurus atokensis, and implications for predatory behaviour". Journal of Zoology. 266 (3): 307-318. doi:10.1017/S0952836905006989.
Average Bull African Bush Elephant Mass Source: academic.oup.com/mspecies/art...
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@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist Жыл бұрын
It's amazing, many Theropods rivaled or even surpassed modern elephants in weight, yet they were still dwarfed by many species of Sauropods. Between the Dinosaurs on land, Pterosaurs in the air, and the massive marine reptiles in the oceans the Mesozoic truly was a world of giants.
@potato7777
@potato7777 Жыл бұрын
im sure pretty much almost all therapods could defeat a sauropod
@ferociousrazordino3581
@ferociousrazordino3581 Жыл бұрын
​@@potato7777..
@dinonuggett2968
@dinonuggett2968 Жыл бұрын
@@potato7777confidence: 100% Facts: 0%
@chrisstedman-mj1tp
@chrisstedman-mj1tp Жыл бұрын
@@potato7777 A Pagatotitan could kick a Rex and kill it
@IAkaksjdjtjeidi
@IAkaksjdjtjeidi Жыл бұрын
@@potato7777 Source:trust me bro
@GODEYE270115
@GODEYE270115 Жыл бұрын
Giga vs Trex is a rivalry that predates even jp3, back to the 90s. Charcharodontosaurs were definitely a family of elites, so many make it to the megatheropods list. It’s only fitting one of them can rival the king of dinosaurs
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Carcharodontosaurs on average are head and shoulders above tyrannosaurs and spinosaurs. I conducted a literature review for my Comparative Vertebrate Studies course (using only peer-reviewed sources, so they ran on the low side) that resulted in an average tyrannosaur mass of 2875 kg, a spinosaur average of 2804 kg, and a carcharodontosaur mass of 3434 kg.
@GODEYE270115
@GODEYE270115 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen without a doubt as a family they were the alpha predators. Even when they had competitors, I’ll argue they almost always came out on top given their wide range and time they ruled
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
That does seem to be the case. They ranged across almost every continent for a reason.
@surgeonsergio6839
@surgeonsergio6839 Жыл бұрын
Carcharodontosaurs have the highest number of supergigantic members compared to the rest of the other theropod families. Acro, mapu, gig, carchar, tyranno all exceed 6 tonnes compared to tyrannosaurids where only a single member does so!
@GODEYE270115
@GODEYE270115 Жыл бұрын
@@surgeonsergio6839 makes you wonder what kind of War-field Rex lived in for it to be such an anomaly in its family. Nature demanded more than greatness in that situation
@tyrannotitantheking6785
@tyrannotitantheking6785 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone realizes how epic Tyrannotitan is 🗿
@MaahesForsaken
@MaahesForsaken Жыл бұрын
Fellow tyrannotitan enjoyer based
@jeremiahrobinson5402
@jeremiahrobinson5402 Жыл бұрын
Tyrannotitan club assemble
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 Жыл бұрын
​@seadoggo567 spino fankid 👶
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap Жыл бұрын
@seadoggo567 this little baby everywhere
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap Жыл бұрын
@seadoggo567 keep crying baby 👶🍼
@nono9543
@nono9543 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how movies actually undersell how powerful and agile these predators were. Like Rexy from JP/JW is cool but think about how much scarier she'd be if you account for the fact that T.Rexes are relatively highly intelligent and have eyesight superior to a Hawks. All while being larger than an a full grown Elephant. Edit: Also. These are just the Megatheropods that were discovered. Looking at the size range of modern animals, it's likely that there were even bigger specimens out there. Either of already known predators or some unknown species altogether.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
All true! A realistic Tyrannosaurus in Jurassic Park would be far more intimidating.
@nono9543
@nono9543 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen Exactly! I see so many ppl on TikTok talk about how the movie monsters are "soooo much cooler" than irl animals and honestly I don't think that could be further from the truth. Looking at some injured fossil specimens, we see Rexes being capable of surviving even with most of their tail missing. Like that's not just a glass cannon animal, that's a BEAST. It took millions of years for nature to sculpt a monster like that and goddamn would it be beautiful to see one. Also it's like 100% certain the real dinosaurs weren't limited to movement based bs eyesight too.
@antoniocenteno1483
@antoniocenteno1483 Жыл бұрын
Well, back in 1993 they didn´t knew as much as we know now about the Rex, actually Rexy was very much updated to the time, except for eyesight and movies do have to follow on continuity, so they can´t just make Rexy updated to modern times
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Just goes to show that TikTok can't be trusted as a source of scientific information haha
@goldman77700
@goldman77700 Жыл бұрын
@@antoniocenteno1483 Thanks for saying it and mentioning the continuity as well. JP1 was very accurate safe for its 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 save for a handful but big issues like Dilophosaurus(All Speilberg), relying on Jack Horner- Utahraptors-sized raptors and naming them Velociraptor, and the aforementioned bad eye-sight for the T-rex.
@RazielRodriguezz
@RazielRodriguezz 10 ай бұрын
Since a kid I remember T. rex constantly being dethroned as largest Mega Theropod but to know it’s now possibly bigger than previously thought Is awesome
@ThePunisher-si8ex
@ThePunisher-si8ex 7 ай бұрын
Yes but yo mama bigger imho 😮
@Rexred09
@Rexred09 5 ай бұрын
@@ThePunisher-si8exWow you are so funny😐
@nono9543
@nono9543 5 ай бұрын
@@Rexred09 The commented was deleted. What did it say?
@Rexred09
@Rexred09 4 ай бұрын
@@nono9543 I cant even remember anymore
@SoftwareLearningify
@SoftwareLearningify 2 ай бұрын
@@Rexred09lol
@crabhater9373
@crabhater9373 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised at how over time rex has only become more impressive as an animal. Not only is it the largest land predator ever, it had incredible eyesight. And it had an incredible sense of smell, and it's leg bones suggest it was surprisingly good at running for it's size.
@Sadpotatoirl2010
@Sadpotatoirl2010 Жыл бұрын
seeing these guys as an animal is much more interesting than a myth and monsters. I mean, it's like studying big cats or orcas, so fascinating.
@darchandarchan7036
@darchandarchan7036 Жыл бұрын
dunkleosteus nerfed, megalodon nerfed, triceratops and ankylosaurus nerfed, spinosaurus… i don’t even know. And Trex being smart as ape, strongest biteforce ever, eyesight making eagles jealous, sense of smell equalling bears and running at about 15-25mph
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
@@darchandarchan7036the trike was a HUGE tank weight around 12 tons and this animal is the most dangerous herbivore that ever existed, the ankylosaurus was a HUGE armored tank weight around 8/9 tons but probably 11 tons.!!
@charmingcthulhu6544
@charmingcthulhu6544 Жыл бұрын
@@darchandarchan7036 if anything dunkleosteus was buffed, its head wasn't shrunk only its body was and a shorter body means a tighter turn radius.
@ferociousrazordino3581
@ferociousrazordino3581 Жыл бұрын
@@darchandarchan7036 trike and ankylosaurus are not nerfed, they are buffed
@ShadowPirateX
@ShadowPirateX Жыл бұрын
Even if Giganotosaurus may not be the new king like it was once proposed as, being the prince of all carnivores is still hella good in my book.
@SuperiorLad4411
@SuperiorLad4411 Жыл бұрын
There is a chance that giga might be the biggest cuz there's not a lot of fossil found
@ShadowPirateX
@ShadowPirateX Жыл бұрын
@@SuperiorLad4411 Perhaps. I’d just be happy to learn more about it in general, since it’s my favorite mega theropod.
@Crakinator
@Crakinator Жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome that Tyrannosaurus rex remains the largest theropod, and the largest predator to ever walk the Earth. It’s such an amazing success story.
@kristianschuff1723
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
Terrestrial predator yes Now for aquatic predators...... Yeah not even close even some modern marine predators dwarf the rex A K.A toothed whales( no orcas are not a toothed whale just a overgrown dolphin)
@Crakinator
@Crakinator Жыл бұрын
@@kristianschuff1723 Technically, orcas are toothed whales, since all dolphins are toothed whales. But yeah what I was saying is that rex is the biggest hunter to walk on land, which is pretty awesome :D
@kristianschuff1723
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@Crakinator no they aren't They're not even a whale they're a dolphin
@Gree543
@Gree543 Жыл бұрын
@@kristianschuff1723 not all whales are dolphins, but all dolphins are whales.
@kristianschuff1723
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@Gree543 you got it backwards All whales are dolphins but not all dolphins are whales
@hydrofrog6496
@hydrofrog6496 Жыл бұрын
Idk why but your video, everything about it, from the mic quality, pacing, humor and format has a real nostalgic feeling to it. Something that brings me back to an older time of KZbin. Never change because you just earned a subscriber
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! 2013 was peak KZbin in my opinion
@antoniocenteno1483
@antoniocenteno1483 Жыл бұрын
T Rex: And this is my summer weight!
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Just wait till it puts on those fall gains
@igornagonski8215
@igornagonski8215 9 ай бұрын
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@invisiblejaguar1
@invisiblejaguar1 11 ай бұрын
I've seen lions and tigers, I know how big they get. I've also seen elephants and the fact these megatheropods were much bigger than adult elephants blows my mind. If any of them were to come into our modern day, they would need to hunt adult elephants just to sustain themselves. After a bull African elephant, a T. rex or a Giga would be like "ok, is there more...?" Non-avian dinosaurs were insane...🤯
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap 7 ай бұрын
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@Tyrannosaurus_rex.
@Tyrannosaurus_rex. Жыл бұрын
Some of these estimates were surprisingly low. I always went with a 9,200kg average Tyrannosaurus. Seeing as Scotty could be 10,600kg to even 11,000kg and Sue being 9,900kg to 10,200kg. As Sue isn't exceptionally large compared to other specimens, I would think the average would only be a tonne off. My reasoning is bad but I saw that Sue was upscaled from 8,400kg to over 9.9 tonnes and Scotty was upscaled from 8,800kg to 10,600kg to 11 tonnes, I just assumed that all the other specimens should get a buff. I used Scotty, Sue, Stan, Trix, AMNH 5027 and the holotype specimen to find an average. I know my reason isn't very backed up, but I like to theorise about Tyrannosaurus, hence my name. Super interesting video!
@Cope_Paleontology
@Cope_Paleontology Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, a tyrannosaurus weighing 9-10 tons looks much better these days, his estimates for giganotosaurus are very high, I always see that giganotosaurus estimates are around 6,500 to 7,800 kg.
@antoniocenteno1483
@antoniocenteno1483 Жыл бұрын
@@Cope_Paleontology They are too high, 8.4 Tons was the potential weight for the bigger Giga found of wich we only have the dental record, wereas 6.5-7.8 was the weight of the holotype specimen. Unless he is taking in the bone density studio for wich all theropods "got a boost" but then the Rex should be about 9 tons for the holotype whereas scotty pushed 10 tons. I learned that on this channell lol and now i´m confused.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
All of these estimates were using the .97 median density from Larramendi et al. (2020). I didn't use the 2013 Hartman estimates because he redid them in 2020 and got much higher numbers for both Tyrannosaurus and Giganotosaurus.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! Statistically neither Sue nor Scotty would be considered "unusually large" since their masses didn't land more than two standard deviations away from the mean of Tyrannosaurus. I like your approach, too--it's always good to use multiple methods.
@Tyrannosaurus_rex.
@Tyrannosaurus_rex. Жыл бұрын
​​​@@TheVividen yes, I understood that Sue and Scotty weren't exceptionally large, so the average can't be too many tonnes off their weight. I found an average using the low estimates of: Sue (9,700kg), Scotty (10,400kg), Stan (8,000kg), holotype (8,500kg), Trix (9,500kg), AMNH 5027 (8,300kg) To get an average of 9,067kg I then used conservative estimates: Sue (9,900kg), Scotty (10,600kg), Stan (8,700kg) holotype (9,000kg), Trix (9,800kg), AMNH 5027 (8,800kg) This gave an average of 9467kg Then the semi-high estimates: Sue (10,100kg), Scotty (10,800kg), Stan (8,800kg) holotype (9,100kg), Trix (10,000kg), AMNH 5027 (9,000kg) This gave an average of 9634kg Finally, I used the higer estimates for these specimens: Sue (10,200kg), Scotty (11,000kg), Stan (9,000kg) holotype (9,300kg), Trix (10,100kg), AMNH 5027 (9,100kg) This gave an enormous average of 9784kg. In conclusion I think an average Tyrannosaurus must be over 9000kg.
@prehistorichero2755
@prehistorichero2755 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget some of the other megatheropods, such as Tarbosaurus and Zhuchengtyrannus.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I couldn't find consistent and recent estimates that placed the average mass for either taxa at 5000+ kilograms. That might change as more specimens are discovered, but for now they don't qualify as megatheropods
@chaotix5513
@chaotix5513 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen tarbosaurus is around 5.1t
@Tyrannosaurus_rex.
@Tyrannosaurus_rex. Жыл бұрын
​@@TheVividen it is very sad. Tyrannosaurus really carries the family in the Megatheropod club.
@xanshen9011
@xanshen9011 Жыл бұрын
@@Tyrannosaurus_rex. Nope. The charcharadontosaurids beats the tyrannosaurids in the size department on average. Its just that the tyrannosaurids hosts the largest terrestrial carnivore to ever exist.
@joema500
@joema500 Жыл бұрын
@@xanshen9011 No he means T. rex carries the tyrannosaur family. Not the megatheropod category.
@user-gb7ho6pb4p
@user-gb7ho6pb4p Жыл бұрын
I’m happy you at the end of the video pointed out the alternative that Giganotosaurus could be smaller than what the evidence shows us, in which, just like your conclusion, our evidence is very much our best guess. I see so many people say “Well, Giganotosaurus could be larger” but the opposite is very much equally as applicable. We don’t really have a quantifiable average for even Tyrannosaurus, let alone something like Giganotosaurus, so the room of improvement or lack of improvement arguments regarding size are statistically applicable all across the board of Theropod genre for “It could get larger” or “It could get smaller”, since these are just fossils. Our evidence is our best bet which we can claim.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
That's completely correct. I ran a one-way ANOVA analysis of the average tyrannosaurid, carcharodontosaurid, and spinosaurid mass and got a p-value of .746, indicating that there was nowhere near enough evidence to suggest that the true average masses of any one of those clades was different from the others. We'd need far larger sample sizes for all three groups to confidently say that we have a statistically significant difference between them.
@Cosmo-Kramer
@Cosmo-Kramer Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen The body mass differentials may prove in the long run, with more fossil findings, to be somewhat different plus or minus for Gig and Spino, but we have enough Rex fossils to know it won't vary much at all, plus or minus, with additional findings. And in determining the baddest therapod to ever live, it's not all about body size. One of the reasons Rex has, since its discovery, been considered the literal king of carnivorous dinosaurs is because of its teeth size and bite force. We don't need any more fossils of Gig or Spino to know that they are no match for Rex in destructive power in their jaws.
@joeerickson516
@joeerickson516 Жыл бұрын
"By the way, would the Giganotosaurus go up,👆 against the late jurassic period herbivore,🥕 dinosaurs,🦕 such as the Apatosaurus, Diplodocus,🦕 Stegosaurus, and Kentrosaurus?"
@joeerickson516
@joeerickson516 Жыл бұрын
"By the way, would Ankylosaurus, Triceratops,Iguanodon Styracosaurus, Edmontonia, and Therizinosaurus, go up,👆 against the Giganotosaurus?"
@eesamohammed2104
@eesamohammed2104 5 ай бұрын
​@@Cosmo-Kramera rex would get torn to shreds by any carchadontosaur a powerful bit is nothing compared to the ability to sever arterys and flesh with little effort
@Ring3R
@Ring3R Жыл бұрын
Interesting way to break things down. I think it's likely that T-Rex went through all of your stages as it grew. With the growing evidence that tyrannosaurs functioned in family groups (small packs, much like modern predatory raptors), the most likely biologically plausible explanation is that, upon attaining full size, T-rex acted less as the primary killer of game....and more to protect that game from smaller predators. The younger tyrants probably did most of the hunting, and then the whole family got to eat their fill, because the mature tyrant was there and nothing in the environment could possibly challenge it. Basically, they had "old man" strength and while they lost their speed....they earned their keep by being able to keep anyone from messing with the kills their younger children took. Then, eventually, a family group would meet up, swap kiddos, reproduce, the older tyrants would die (explaining why t-rex only spent a small amount of time as a full size adult), their kids would take over the two family groups, and rinse and repeat. Everything has to be viewed from the perspective of actual biology. T-Rex, as an adult, was so massively overbuilt that was slow. I would argue that's not because it was a scavenger....but because it had the family job of making sure nobody could move in on it's kids. basically, it's the oldest play in the book. F* about and find out.
@tiffanybatcheller-harris522
@tiffanybatcheller-harris522 Жыл бұрын
That’s not too different from lions. Males usually defend the pride and hunting territory from other predators (especially hyenas), while the lionesses bring home the food. 😼
@JACKAL98
@JACKAL98 Жыл бұрын
Painting me a picture of Rex in the wild reading this lol
@bluemouse5039
@bluemouse5039 Жыл бұрын
Looking at Reptiles today none of them seem to have any type of family units, they are loners that only get together during mating time and protect eggs or the young for a short time but will go back to being solitary animals and even prey on their own off spring once their short period of maturity instinct wears off, They will gather in groups not to work together out of any kind of family bonding but because they gather where the prey animals are and will tolerate others of their kind long as they keep their distance or not try to take their kill from them , when they eat on a carcass there is no social order its who ever is aggressive enough to take what they want first , the bigger ones will usually intimidate the younger ones away but are not above killing a smaller one of its kind and eating it if it gets in the way, That's how Crocodiles, Alligators and large lizards like Komodo dragons and Monitors are and also many mammal predators like Bears, Tigers, Wolverines, Which makes me think if a T Rex is a solitary animal as well and doesn't have a permanent family unit, i don't think they had the intelligence to have a pack mentality or complex social structure like wolves or lions
@Ring3R
@Ring3R Жыл бұрын
@@bluemouse5039 Except dinosaurs were archosaurs - and that's very different from other reptiles. The two surviving clades from that group are birds, and crocodilians (and, maybe, turtles, jury is still out on that). Those groups all have parental care. Some of them, particularly the ones that directly descend from the dinosaurs (birds) have numerous examples of parental care, family groups, high intelligence, mating for life, protection of young, the list goes on. Given the evidence we have of severely disabled therapods surviving months, or in some cases, years, it's pretty obvious these animals had some kind of social structure. Given that we see the same sort of thing in their direct descendants (birds), I'd say that, if they were not pack hunters, they were at least family hunters.
@aaronjimenez7825
@aaronjimenez7825 11 ай бұрын
I actually love this thought process.
@texanman7191
@texanman7191 Жыл бұрын
Theropods, pterosaurs, crocodiles, sauropods. These type of animals ended up dominating the mesozoic era. The ones that are currently living in the cenozoic era are crocodiles, and theropods(birds) and they are still diverse. The archosaur family were not dumb when it comes to survival.
@loganmurray8810
@loganmurray8810 Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect combination of military nerd, math nerd and Dino nerd. You have tapped into a new market sir.
@bignelly9476
@bignelly9476 Жыл бұрын
Whilst I knew most of why was on this list I never knew that Theri lived along side Dino. Very interesting that two of the largest therapods at the time had meathooks for hands
@xanshen9011
@xanshen9011 Жыл бұрын
The terror turkey and danger duck
@Azureblue25
@Azureblue25 Жыл бұрын
I kinda have the feeling that back then, Deinocheirus would’ve lived in swampy environments and Therizinosaurus would’ve lived in more inland forest environments, to explain how those two giant Herbivorous or Omnivorous theropods could coexist in the same general area in addition to Tarbosaurus which would’ve probably been more of a generalist which was more likely to adapt to all kinds of habitats within the Nemegt Formation.
@ErinMott09
@ErinMott09 Жыл бұрын
As a 90’s kid/ early 2000’s teenager, I severely appreciate the evanescence reference
@dwbryant13
@dwbryant13 11 ай бұрын
Your thumbnail is great dude!
@Troodonychus
@Troodonychus Жыл бұрын
I'm sad that nobody talks about Tyrannotitan that much, despite literally having the name of the "Tyrant Titan" itself, that name is reserved for god like entities and Tyrannotitan deserved its title. its the best carcharodontosaurid right under the goat itself, Giganotosaurus
@rileyernst9086
@rileyernst9086 11 ай бұрын
I think the differences in growth patterns between Meraxes Gigas (and likely most large carcharodontosaurs) and tyrannosaurus is fascinating. Sue was around 27 or so when she died and she was an old tyrannosaurus and fully grown, Meraxes was estimated to have been in its early 50s, and still growing, still a skeletally immature adult.
@Shimosevilbrother99
@Shimosevilbrother99 11 ай бұрын
So you think Meraxes would get bigger than T rex when they reached fully adults
@rileyernst9086
@rileyernst9086 11 ай бұрын
That is exactly not what I am saying. Especially as Meraxes was sharing its envrioment with the larger Mapusaurus. What I am saying is that whilst tyrannosaurus is big and heavy the large carcharodontosaurs were comparatively ancient. Meraxes was nearly twice the age of the oldest tyrannosaurus specimens we have and not yet fully mature.
@845_Mk6
@845_Mk6 Жыл бұрын
Great video keep up the good stuff 🙏🏻
@jeffreyseamons5514
@jeffreyseamons5514 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of cutting back on my subscriptions, so I'm very picky about any new subscriptions, but this channel looks like it'd be exactly the thing I like, especialy since you dropped an MTG refferenc ein the middle of a paleontology video.
@lizardbytheriver1567
@lizardbytheriver1567 Жыл бұрын
Love that the Megalosaurs family and Megaraptor family got some love. It is interesting that the Carcharodontosaur family dominates the list tho. Hope a truly giant Abelisaur gets discovered one day.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome!
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap 7 ай бұрын
Top 5 biggest North American megatheropods now . 1. Tyrannosaurus Rex- 10.4 tonnes 2. Saurophaganax maximus- 8 tonnes 3. Acrocanthosaurus atokensis- 6.8 tonnes 4. Torvosaurus tanneri- 5.2 tonnes 5. Siats meekerorum- 4.7 tonnes
@TheVividen
@TheVividen 7 ай бұрын
And we can't forget Cope's 11.5-11.7 tonnes!
@Mikailodon
@Mikailodon Жыл бұрын
What a nice and detailed remake. Also nice to see my video on megatheropods pop up at one point
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! It had been six years since I'd made my last comprehensive list, so I figured it was time. Your video is also great!
@Mikailodon
@Mikailodon Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen thx
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheVividen but alas it's not accurate. Look at Dan Folkes model & theropod comparison spreadsheet. Your estimates are wrong
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterZilla452your brain is wrong
@thunderwolfwyvern6314
@thunderwolfwyvern6314 Жыл бұрын
I almost forgot about your channel until I remembered you made that King Kong VS Tigrex video. Nice see your still doing your paleontology thing.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Good to see you!
@kingdon7795
@kingdon7795 Жыл бұрын
I won't be surprised if these dinosaurs actually had their own armies and fought for territories and honour. 💀
@IAkaksjdjtjeidi
@IAkaksjdjtjeidi Жыл бұрын
That sounds an amazing idea for a show !
@YourMid740
@YourMid740 Жыл бұрын
Spinosauridae (Germany) trying to convince the Charcarodontosaurids (Mexico) to fight against the Tyrannosaurids (America): *Yo dudes, the empire’s pretty chill, maybe you could like, join it or something.*
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap 7 ай бұрын
Top 5 largest Asian megatheropods now 1. Deinocheirus mirificus- 7.1 tonnes 2. Zhuchengtyrannus magnus- 5.9 tonnes 3. Therizinosaurus choleniformis- 5.5 tonnes 4. Prodeinodon mongoliensis- 5.4 tonnes 5. Tarbosaurus bataar- 5.4 tonnes
@moonblaze1_95
@moonblaze1_95 Жыл бұрын
finally someone who mentions Tyrannotitan, one of my favorite dinosaurs finally gets recognition
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist 11 ай бұрын
Excellent channel, just encountered it. You have a range of qualities I appreciate in any given palaeomedia channel. To put it plain, you have the subtlety and the _genuine_ understanding of the terminology to present these videos. I subscribed. Respect, from one palaeontologist to another.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you like my content! Respect right back at ya, paleo pal!
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist 11 ай бұрын
@@TheVividen You are most welcome. It's actually refreshing to see a channel which isn't just regurgitating recycled tropes and actually puts the effort in to not only reference things but also get the pronunciations spot on. I can just tell you know what you're talking about. I've long considered making videos and have ideas, but yeah. General Grievous says, subscribing to your channel: _This will make another fine addition to my collection_ [cough]
@TheVividen
@TheVividen 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePalaeontologist Thank you! This comment made my day. If you do end up making videos of your own, let me know!
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist 11 ай бұрын
@@TheVividen Again, you are most welcome. If I compliment someone, it is sincere, because I reserve it for those who deserve it. I can imagine working on stuff with you and part of why I specifically referred to you having the subtlety to understand and expertly discuss and present things, is that you are 'already there'. In other words, I can tell you'd be a good colleague. Anyway, I'm really liking the attention to detail in your videos. The thing is, it's one of my weaker areas in palaeontology to keep up with the biggest and most current things being found. I rarely have that time to dedicate to that and it is nice to see it all summarised here. I know it sounds daft for someone with no videos, but I always keep it in mind who I'd like to work with on videos one day if possible. And like Darth Vader knowing the rebel base was on Hoth, I instantly knew you were just one of those channels at that kind of standard. Again, rich I know coming from someone with no content, but I do have a microphone and I'm working on things (writing)
@TheVividen
@TheVividen 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePalaeontologist I'll be applying to doctorate programs soon for evolutionary biology, so maybe we'll see each other around! I'm happy to be of help. Let's dig up some dinos!
@fedan2012
@fedan2012 Жыл бұрын
Boy they weren't kidding when they said the Allosauridae were one of the most succesful apex predators in the history of earth.
@TaurusSaurus
@TaurusSaurus Жыл бұрын
7:53 on another note other paleontologist and experts have estimated it to be either slightly smaller or slightly larger, it depends on who’s recon you use. But the higher end just barely scratch’s 8 tonnes, into destroyer class. And if I’m being completely honest given his track history it’s probably gonna change sometime this month😭 But still great video. Subscribed
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
T. rex was the ultimate terrestrial predator
@TaurusSaurus
@TaurusSaurus Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigopinto6676 ok?
@Tarbo450
@Tarbo450 11 ай бұрын
Are you talking about the spino
@ratiotile3226
@ratiotile3226 Жыл бұрын
Epic video man
@TheXAllosaurus
@TheXAllosaurus 6 ай бұрын
"Leviathan" Saurophaganax specimen is destroyer tier
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap 7 ай бұрын
Top 5 largest European megatheropods now 1. French Megalosaurid- 6.3 tonnes 2. Megalosauridae indet- 5.5 tonnes 3. Torvosaurus gurneyi- 5.2 tonnes 4. Metriscanthosaurus indet- 4.2 tonnes 5. 5th one isn't a megatheropod
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us Жыл бұрын
T-Rex is supreme and all, but the fact that an adult equivalent class Titanosaur would have little to worry about says a lot about how titanic dinosaurs could get. Them sauropods could get up to like 15 Jerrys…
@devilman4018
@devilman4018 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you put your sources in the description and the methods used. Good video.
@kuitaranheatmorus9932
@kuitaranheatmorus9932 Жыл бұрын
This video was pretty dope,and I like this video
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you did!
@mercuryatamolos3687
@mercuryatamolos3687 Жыл бұрын
I love the book that you got some of the artwork for this video from. If you don’t already have it, you should get the book about sauropods from the same authors. It has some of the most beautiful depictions of sauropods I’ve ever seen. They’re unique, colorful, and like the theropod book, it has reconstructions of very lesser known or undiagnostic specimens. It would be awesome to see a video about mega sauropods too since their book has an exhaustive list of every sauropod with cited length and mass estimates. 30 or 35 tons (about the mass of a humpback whale) would be a good place to put the threshold and includes tons of unexpected giants besides just titanosaurs
@bimbgusbomgus2861
@bimbgusbomgus2861 Жыл бұрын
What artist was it
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
I have the Sauropod Facts and Figures book too, and it's fantastic!
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen so some people in this vid thinks fully grown giga is 10.5 tons which is to big and speculation
@dinosaurdundeeog1462
@dinosaurdundeeog1462 Жыл бұрын
btw, that primary Tyrannotitan imaged compared to Jerry is by Brett Booth
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Chinstrap-99
@Chinstrap-99 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@dagoodboy6424
@dagoodboy6424 Жыл бұрын
We need a vid like this for all types of dinos n prehistoric taxa
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome! I'll see what I can do
@dagoodboy6424
@dagoodboy6424 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen yay!🎉
@Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King
@Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King Жыл бұрын
A little fun fact i p’ve thought about regarding giga and rex, was running. If you look at rexy and it’s barrel-shaped chest and giant, thick legs, it’s very clear it was a long and slow walker, that endurance hunted like early humans did, while giga is longer, leaner and skinnier, with beefier thighs for fast running to catch up to something four-legged. Just a lil nugget of info
@pierre-samuelroux9364
@pierre-samuelroux9364 Жыл бұрын
You talking about rexy when vid about accurate
@pierre-samuelroux9364
@pierre-samuelroux9364 Жыл бұрын
Sorry didn't read right 😂
@richie_0740
@richie_0740 2 ай бұрын
Giga wouldnt need to run much either as their contemporary prey item wouldve mostly been the huge sauropods that roamed its habitat, its anything from the 6-7 tonnes rebbachisaurids like rayososaurus and limaysaurus to the huge titanosaurs like the 18 tonnes andesaurus and the 60+ tonnes unnamed large titanosaur that was recently discovered.
@Foodlenoodle
@Foodlenoodle 5 ай бұрын
That was a fantastic video, a new viewer here i just subscribed Also what was the music during giganotosaurs explanation
@brutalisplays
@brutalisplays Жыл бұрын
Great video! Just wanna throw a bit of something you could possibly turn into a vid. Have you noticed that just about anywhere the spinosaurs have been found, there are also carcharadontosaurs living at the same time as them? Africa, you have carch and spino. South America you have oxalia, and irritator with Mapu, and the giga. I’m not sure of a carch has been found in the UK, but it would surprise me given that there are several spinosaurids there
@Tyrannosaurus_rex.
@Tyrannosaurus_rex. Жыл бұрын
I never knew Therizinosaurus was on average larger than Deinocheirus.
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap Жыл бұрын
Fake. Therizinosaurus was 6.6 tons . Deinocheirus was 8.5 tons
@Kor06.
@Kor06. 11 ай бұрын
@@Imatroll_Icallcap that's a false estimate
@lindavanwyk8268
@lindavanwyk8268 7 ай бұрын
​@@Imatroll_Icallcap No Therizinosaurus was 6.1 ton and Deinocheirus was 7.2 tons
@zebgiganotosaurusgaming
@zebgiganotosaurusgaming Ай бұрын
​@@Kor06.no.
@zebgiganotosaurusgaming
@zebgiganotosaurusgaming Ай бұрын
​@@Kor06.Deinocheirus is bigger than Therizinosaurus
@cretaceouscrusader661
@cretaceouscrusader661 Жыл бұрын
Please do Gigapods (Giant Sauropods)
@Dr.Croc_13
@Dr.Croc_13 Жыл бұрын
Dude I love the tier listing. A destroyer class? Terrific.
@tasfariel9227
@tasfariel9227 Жыл бұрын
Very nice work. I cant say it Better :)
@SergeantBrowning
@SergeantBrowning Жыл бұрын
I think regardless of which comes out bigger, T. Rex or giga, the real question is how their weight distributed? Giga when you look at its skeletal structure is a leaner quicker hunter. It looks like it’s built to bleed its prey then finish it when it’s weak. T Rex looks to have been built for a marathon chase leading to a climactic showdown when its prey could no longer run away. It had exceptionally keen vision and smell, and it was obviously built to deal kill in one or two chomps. Even if Giga is found to be larger I think the answer to who would win a straight fight would still go to the T Rex most of the time. It’s built for head on conflict with animals in its weight class. Evidence points to Giga bleeding out large slow animals or catching smaller weaker prey. Both amazing in their own right, but only one gets to wear the belt lol
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
Best compared body proportion Pantanal jaguar(t rex) vs African leopard(giga)
@redlizerad8268
@redlizerad8268 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but then again the same could be said that the Giga has larger jaws making it easier to land a bite. Just another way of looking at it.
@R.A.D.2023
@R.A.D.2023 Жыл бұрын
depends who attack first.
@joeerickson516
@joeerickson516 Жыл бұрын
"By the way, would the Giganotosaurus go up,👆 against the late jurassic period herbivore,🌿 dinosaurs,🦕 such as, the Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus,Diplodocus,🦕 Stegosaurus and Kentrosaurus?"
@joeerickson516
@joeerickson516 Жыл бұрын
"By the way, would the late Cretaceous period herbivore,🌿 dinosaurs,🦕 such as, the Triceratops, Iguanodon, Ankylosaurus, and Therizinosaurus, go up,👆 against the late Cretaceous period South american carnivorous,🥩 🌭 🍔 🥓 🐔 🐠 dinosaurs,🦖 such as the Giganotosaurus, and Carnotaurus?"
@joebrat6809
@joebrat6809 11 ай бұрын
I'd say I expected Tarbosaurus to be on this list, as it is generally estimated around 5 tonnes for the large 40-foot adult females. I remember when Mapusaurus was discovered in 2000 it was estimated at 50 feet in length, a figure that was later revised downwards to 41 feet but still extremely large.
@Shimosevilbrother99
@Shimosevilbrother99 10 ай бұрын
Mapusaurus never estimated to be 50 feet . Maximum estimates is 43 feet
@joebrat6809
@joebrat6809 10 ай бұрын
there was a very early estimate of a dinosaur that was said to be a relative of Giga that was from Argetina estimated at 48-50 feet and that later was Mapusaurus but its size was revised down to 40-42 feet.
@mateussousa1236
@mateussousa1236 6 ай бұрын
​@@joebrat6809I saw an old documentary that states this, Dinosaurs Extremes, it states that Mapussaurus was 14-15 meters long.
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 5 ай бұрын
That 13.6-14.3 meters or 45-48 foot long Mapusaurus was from a pubis shaft 10% bigger than Giganotosaurus holotype.
@joebrat6809
@joebrat6809 5 ай бұрын
@@MonsterZilla452 intersting, its strange that this has never been brought up. If this shaft turns out to be true, then Mapusaurus may indeed be the King of The Monsters.
@aaronjimenez7825
@aaronjimenez7825 10 ай бұрын
Interesting to see some of these values change since your shorter 2018 video
@jobvanhetkaar8848
@jobvanhetkaar8848 4 ай бұрын
Love the structure of your vids
@barbatoslupusrex8712
@barbatoslupusrex8712 Жыл бұрын
I have a good question that you could possibly do a video about: Why were Carcharodontosaurids not around in the Late Cretaceous?
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
That's a great question, and a fantastic video idea!
@percyjackson3698
@percyjackson3698 Жыл бұрын
I think it was explained in Planet Dinosaur (2014) that some enviromental changes in the mid-cretaceus period results in the changes of the fauna, which cause the extinction of the Sauropods (u know, the long-neck giants like Argentinosaurus and Parralititan). And since Carcharodontosaurids preyed on those titans, as their meat supplies die out, so did they.
@michaelwoolley7034
@michaelwoolley7034 11 ай бұрын
It's worth learning about the "Cenomanian-Turonian anoxic event" 94 million years ago Global average temperatures then were at least as high or higher than any other time in the Mesozoic
@smugreptile6695
@smugreptile6695 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Brett Booth did the Tyrannotitan art. Looks like his usual style for Theropods.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
I've added him to the description. Thank you!
@smugreptile6695
@smugreptile6695 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen no problem, he does a lot of theropod art.
@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 Жыл бұрын
Nice information
@nationalsniper5413
@nationalsniper5413 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. How about a similar video of biggest ceratopsians?
@tyrannotherium7873
@tyrannotherium7873 Жыл бұрын
nice video i thought that carchodontosaurus was heaver then Tyrannotitan
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Based on current estimates, apparently not. That is, of course, subject to change!
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap Жыл бұрын
Tyrannotitan is actually 8.5 tons Carcharodontosaurus only 7.6 tons Tyrannotitan is almost 1 ton heavier than carcharodontosaurus
@tyrannotherium7873
@tyrannotherium7873 Жыл бұрын
@@Imatroll_Icallcap okay? where did you get this information from?
@David-ni5hj
@David-ni5hj Жыл бұрын
Honestly, after seeing their skeletons side to side it makes me think that current estimates are either being too generous with Giganotosaurus or too conservative with T Rex. Or maybe even both. Between them there doesn't seem to be a difference of just some hundreds of kilograms or just one ton 🤷‍♂️
@blaircolquhoun7780
@blaircolquhoun7780 5 ай бұрын
I love this! Thank you.
@greynorthstar
@greynorthstar Жыл бұрын
the weights are completly of after the last papers of science, a Trex is now estimate between 10-13 tons and most of the others are also estimated heavier, also did they correct the size of most of them
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0 Жыл бұрын
So T. rex is CHONKEY
@greynorthstar
@greynorthstar Жыл бұрын
@Godzilla Kotm bulky but yes, this new rex looks like a damn strongman going to deadlift some trees
@Doomguyhunter1
@Doomguyhunter1 Жыл бұрын
The absolute max with that body build would be 15 tons. Chonkey boah.
@Unbearable_Truth
@Unbearable_Truth Жыл бұрын
No evidence of such inflated mass estimates exist.
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 11 ай бұрын
Rex is 10.4 tons
@colekesten9596
@colekesten9596 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of every large carnivore vs trex, but the fact of the situation is trex could defeat all if it lands a bite on the neck /head of each of the rival carnivores
@shagarumedic
@shagarumedic Жыл бұрын
I’d say it’s bulk would be the biggest advantage over other carnivores, you’re not gonna land a perfect bite against a carnivore that is actively attacking you. That bull makes it an immovable wall, which gives it more opportunities to get that bite in
@Justmonika6969
@Justmonika6969 8 ай бұрын
​@@shagarumedic Yeah and that bite would be a 1 hit KO too...
@keepcalmlovedinosaurs8934
@keepcalmlovedinosaurs8934 Жыл бұрын
Like the tier system you've included! Brilliant video! 😎👍
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Feel free to use the tiering system as a reference!
@keepcalmlovedinosaurs8934
@keepcalmlovedinosaurs8934 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividen Might do for when I get back into doing videos 👍
@Sun-God2
@Sun-God2 9 ай бұрын
How can i buy that book? Did you have it on Shoppe App, Amazon App or Shein App? Please tell me
@UnknownUniverseGod
@UnknownUniverseGod Жыл бұрын
The biggest tyrannosaurus rex is 9 tons which is scotty the average weight of tyrannosaurus-rex is 7 to 8 tons on average.
@giulialigabue3361
@giulialigabue3361 5 ай бұрын
The biggest Tyrannosaurus rex is Copium rex(ED Cope or BHI 6248)and weighs 11,7 tons(11.700 kg)
@UnknownUniverseGod
@UnknownUniverseGod 5 ай бұрын
@@giulialigabue3361 there's no evidence for that.
@UnknownUniverseGod
@UnknownUniverseGod 5 ай бұрын
@@giulialigabue3361 For many years now, Saskatchewan has been the proud home of the world's largest Tyrannosaurus rex. Nicknamed Scotty, this once huge animal used to roam the earth some 66 million years ago. Weighing an estimated 19,555 pounds, the equivalent of four pickup trucks, and measuring nearly 42 feet long.
@giulialigabue3361
@giulialigabue3361 5 ай бұрын
@@UnknownUniverseGod no
@UnknownUniverseGod
@UnknownUniverseGod 5 ай бұрын
@@giulialigabue3361 yes you can search it up I'm not lying
@angelalcivar9354
@angelalcivar9354 Жыл бұрын
Comparing modern elephants to megatropod dinosaurs is impressive on both counts. On the one hand, megatropods include carnivorous dinosaurs that were larger and heavier than a current African Elephant, that is really terrifying, an African Elephant is already a huge beast in itself, luckily it is herbivorous, but imagine a more predatory animal bigger than him. On the other hand, we can see how a group of the largest current land animals could be capable of scaring away or defeating a megatropod such as T-rex or Giganotosaurus in a dangerous encounter, Elephants are intelligent, perhaps they would be afraid to see a predator something bigger than them but they know that together they can beat it, a normal adult Tyrannosaurus rex of about 8-9 tons would see a single African Elephant as a good prey, but a herd of them by no means, each of them weighs 6 tons and they are close to their height, the T-rex only outnumbers each one by 2-3 tons, if we have about 6-7 Elephants facing a Tyrannosaurus, the dinosaur would basically be far outclassed in strength, it's just It is a matter of thinking that a Triceratops (the most dangerous natural prey of the T-rex) counts almost as 2 current adult male African Elephants, if a T-rex encounters about 6 Elephants it is like it is facing 3 Triceratops, the best option of the apex predator would be to run away if you don't want to earn a beating.
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
The triceratop was a Huge tank weight around 12 tons.!
@SuperiorLad4411
@SuperiorLad4411 Жыл бұрын
I just read that whole thing bruh
@averageidiot8851
@averageidiot8851 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see an updated mega sauropods video with Jerry scores if that’s possible
@richardsanchez5444
@richardsanchez5444 10 ай бұрын
It hurts my heart that we will never know how dinosaurs actually looked and moved like.
@northirinangel784
@northirinangel784 Жыл бұрын
I really like this video because it gives a fair, average weight estimate for each dino, even though with a dino like spinosaurus it's difficult to estimate at this point and time since its body structure keeps changing. Personally I think its weight could range anywhere from 7.5 thousand kilos to potentially over 9000 kg. but artillery tier seems like a good strong place to be though maybe one day it'll join Destroyer Tier
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
It feeds only on fish
@northirinangel784
@northirinangel784 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigopinto6676 No it does not, it's adapted to take advantage of the abundant aquatic life, but it was not strictly a piscivore
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
@@northirinangel784 pure fish diet
@northirinangel784
@northirinangel784 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigopinto6676 Nope, sorry but that's incorrect, do bears only eat deer and berries? Do sharks only eat fish? If a carnivore finds prey it can hunt when it's hungry it'll hunt it
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
@@northirinangel784 fossil evidence indicates that it ate only fish
@tyrantking9362
@tyrantking9362 Жыл бұрын
@8:42 Considering it's name means Giant Southern Lizard, I always pronounce it like Giant. Saying it like Giga just doesn't do it justice. Saying it like Giant really puts emphasis on the fact it was a true Giant.
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
But smaller than rex
@tyrantking9362
@tyrantking9362 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigopinto6676 well yes, i was just saying how its name came to be. It still is a giant, an animal measuring up to 43-45 ft in length is no joke. But its still not the true king. Rex will always be king.
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrantking9362 “45ft” outdated
@tyrantking9362
@tyrantking9362 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigopinto6676 there's no reason to be rude
@tyrantking9362
@tyrantking9362 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigopinto6676 and to say its outdated isn't entirely accurate. Scientists really have no idea. We have such few adult specimens compared to the tyrannosaurus rex. Its just an estimated average.
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap 7 ай бұрын
Top 5 largest African megatheropods now. 1. Spinosaurus aegyptiacus- 8.3 tonnes 2. Spinosaurinae indet- 8.2 tonnes 3. Carcharodontosaurus saharicus- 8.2 tonnes 4. Sauroniops pachytholus- 7.5 tonnes 5. Bahariasaurus ingens- 7.1 tonnes
@CriticallyCorrect
@CriticallyCorrect 10 ай бұрын
I always believed that theropods were carnivores, you learn something new every day
@shaneoliver4362
@shaneoliver4362 Жыл бұрын
How about the giant megeraptorid Maip Macrothorax, it lived in south america of the late late cretaceous after giganotosaurus and is considered the queen of dinosaurs.
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 Жыл бұрын
Maip is only 3 tons
@shaneoliver4362
@shaneoliver4362 Жыл бұрын
@🐍Titano 🐍 true but something to look into
@johngladman4291
@johngladman4291 Жыл бұрын
It’s cool that a modern day bull elephant day could still possibly hold its own against some of the smaller megatherapods. Although they’d probably be more inclined to run away and be an easy kill, considering they aren’t used to being hunted by anything even close to their size.
@majungasaurusaaaa
@majungasaurusaaaa Жыл бұрын
Few things are as aggressive as a bull elephant. It'd be as dangerous to hunt as a large ceratopsid.
@r.k845
@r.k845 Жыл бұрын
@@majungasaurusaaaa I doubt it. A large triceratops has the defences to actually protect itself against theropods like the forward facing horn and protective kneck frill. Only the large supertuskers would stand a chance against the big theropods.
@ggsmrdoink
@ggsmrdoink 11 ай бұрын
giga vs trex is so reidiculously even it all comes down to who gets the first hit. a strong bite from either would put the other one out of commision
@wuahp
@wuahp 5 ай бұрын
never really heard of the edmarka rex, that’s really cool, imagine a creature almost as long as the t. rex or like he said it rivaled it’s size just running at you, and from the looks of it, it seemed agile, thats actually insane to think about and cool at the same time
@DINOSAURIA
@DINOSAURIA Жыл бұрын
It's sad that Tarbosaurus doesn't make this list
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
It is sad :(
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap Жыл бұрын
Tarbosaurus is 5.4 tons
@Imatroll_Icallcap
@Imatroll_Icallcap Жыл бұрын
Tarbosaurus isn't in top 10 current largest theropods by mass 1. Giganotosaurus- 10.5 tons 2. T rex - 10.4 tons 3. Mapusaurus- 9.1 tons 4. Deinocheirus- 8.4 tons 5. Tyrannotitan- 8.3 tons 6. Spinosaurus- 7.8 tons 7. Sauroniops- 7.7 tons 8. Carcharodontosaurus- 7.6 tons 9. Saurophaganax- 6.8 tons 10. Therizinosaurus- 6.6 tons Tarbosaurus unable to make top 10
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 Жыл бұрын
Because he missed at Tarbosaurus does weigh 5000+ kg
@han-sooyoung
@han-sooyoung 11 ай бұрын
​@skwarne920 10.5 tons 😂😂😂😂
@notmyrealchannel559
@notmyrealchannel559 Жыл бұрын
T Rex did also hunted one sauropod nearly identical in size and weight to Argentinosaurus called Alamosaurus and that animal is measured to 100 ft long and weighed 75-80 tons, while Argentinosaurus was 120 ft long, and weighed 69-75 tons, the weight estimates made alamosaurus larger. but like other megatheropods that hunted sauropods in similar weight classes, they mostly target the younger or weaker individuals.
@santiagofernandez8551
@santiagofernandez8551 Жыл бұрын
Thats false, there is no fossil record of trex hunting adult alamosaurus, prob inmature similar size specimens to trex size and alamo isnt even in the top 10 biggest sauropods since the biggest alamo specimen its even below 50 tons meanwhile argent is almost 85 tons.
@notmyrealchannel559
@notmyrealchannel559 Жыл бұрын
@@santiagofernandez8551 the Alamosaurus specimens I heard that they were the juveniles, which is why i mention in the later part of the comment that like other megatheropods that hunted other similar sized Titanosaurs, T Rex would mostly target the juveniles even when they hunted in packs, and Alamosaurus actually is the same size as Argentinosaurus, because the the specimens of the Alamosaurus they found were the juveniles, and they believe that adult Alamosaurus can weigh up to 75-80 tons, and also regarding the Argentinosaurus, its weight was reduced to 69-75 tons.
@santiagofernandez8551
@santiagofernandez8551 Жыл бұрын
@@notmyrealchannel559 nope thats false, where is the source of that? Lol biggest mature alamo specimen is 43 tons at max, below even dreadnoughtus size, meanwhile argent size had never changed and still 85t at max
@santiagofernandez8551
@santiagofernandez8551 Жыл бұрын
@@notmyrealchannel559 docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10kENNmyqPts-fv-nCgK4Rse5YggniHiVTvj6BVv1JDo/htmlview#
@santiagofernandez8551
@santiagofernandez8551 Жыл бұрын
@@notmyrealchannel559 docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GVpHchzogtjkTqQrP7PFM2BAWMGHYHABD-Xnk_6KPj0/htmlview#
@canirim
@canirim Жыл бұрын
3:36 National Museum mentioned, I'm gonna cry I still grieve the loss of so much knowledge...I miss that place terribly
@deyhatejujo
@deyhatejujo Жыл бұрын
Dope video
@Tarbtano
@Tarbtano Жыл бұрын
I can't say much as the paper is still being written and the monograph should, rightfully, get first shot at revealing what it has. But all I can say is keep an eye out of something coming from Oklahoma in the next year or so. A bonebed with some very, very intriguing finds got found that shed a lot of light not only on the social habits and life of a creature, but also its dimensions being well above what was expected of it.
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Keep us updated for when the monograph releases!
@SCR_ProductionsYT
@SCR_ProductionsYT Жыл бұрын
Did you just imply Mapusaurus came before Giganotosaurus? Mapusaurus is known from late cenomanian to early turonian rocks 🤣, so its the other way around.
@ThePeltra95
@ThePeltra95 Жыл бұрын
He was probably talking about Meraxes Gigas.
@SCR_ProductionsYT
@SCR_ProductionsYT Жыл бұрын
@@ThePeltra95 Meraxes and Mapusaurus lived at the same time and place 💀
@ThePeltra95
@ThePeltra95 Жыл бұрын
@@SCR_ProductionsYT They are from the same formation, but Meraxes was found on older rocks than Mapusaurus, so they probably didn't coexist.
@SCR_ProductionsYT
@SCR_ProductionsYT Жыл бұрын
@@ThePeltra95 This overlooks the fact Meraxes was not suprassing 5 tons in weight, therefore it does not qualify on the list.
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
@@SCR_ProductionsYT meraxes “only” 4 tons
@tyrannicalsaur
@tyrannicalsaur Жыл бұрын
Arcocanthosaurus is also one of my favorite theropods
@kikoelargento9905
@kikoelargento9905 Жыл бұрын
It would be fun a clash of theropod families Carchas vs Tyrannos vs Spinos etc... Peeking 3 of each and judging their capabilities and sizes
@pierre-samuelroux9364
@pierre-samuelroux9364 Жыл бұрын
It simple the two first kick others
@YTTroll69
@YTTroll69 9 ай бұрын
I love how giga shot up to the same size as scotty and then rex slam dunked on it with a 12.4 ton specimen
@GEK0dev
@GEK0dev Жыл бұрын
Did notice that the trex estimates were a bit low, average is more around 9.2k KG not 8.7 and maximum around 11k KG while Giga averages at around 7.2k KG and maxes at more around 9.4k KG
@TaurusSaurus
@TaurusSaurus Жыл бұрын
There were only a select few Tyrannosaurus specimen which reached and or surpassed 9 tonnes. Most were in the 7-8 tonne range.
@GEK0dev
@GEK0dev Жыл бұрын
@@TaurusSaurus There aren’t really any adult specimen Tyrannosaurs that are in 7 anymore, Most are definitely above 8 as adult with the confirmed fully matured ones so far reaching more around 8-9 tons an average of a large tyrannosaur is around 9.2k KG as mentioned before with 11 being the estimated maximum size without getting into the whole… 15 ton controversy lol
@TaurusSaurus
@TaurusSaurus Жыл бұрын
@@GEK0dev the only 9+ tonne are trix, sue, and Scotty as well as some fragmented ones. Who estimated 11kg?
@haroldotrotter9148
@haroldotrotter9148 Жыл бұрын
im saying this as a Spinosaurus enjoyer lol, so my opinion can be considered biased, but i dont think anyone can say Spinosaurus's size until we at least have a proper adult specimen that we are sure of. i wouldnt be surprised if it was heavier than rex or giga because it spent a lot of time in water. it doesnt really matter but its just a thought. Its still an amazing animal from what we know.
@Saurian25
@Saurian25 11 ай бұрын
It had denser bones, but its bones were extremely thin and it had an extremely gracile build… it is more than likely not heavier than either of those two, especially as of now.
@saurythesausage6849
@saurythesausage6849 Жыл бұрын
6:50 I swear somewhere out there there's an alternate dimension where carnotaurus was found much later and named after nicol bolas
@maozilla9149
@maozilla9149 Жыл бұрын
cool video
@SRSaiKrishnak
@SRSaiKrishnak Жыл бұрын
These aren’t accurate sizes
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Siamotitan789
@Siamotitan789 Жыл бұрын
It's accurate
@SuperiorLad4411
@SuperiorLad4411 Жыл бұрын
It is
@KurNorock
@KurNorock Жыл бұрын
I do not think that Giganotasaurus was that heavy. The skeleton just looks too gracile to support that weight. When looking at a t-rex skeleton you can see the bulk. Giga looks it was an ectomorph.
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@josephpeck8723
@josephpeck8723 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but what is the music playing in the background?
@freezingwisdom9837
@freezingwisdom9837 9 ай бұрын
What is the name of the stock music that is in the background in the intro?
@jonsnow8543
@jonsnow8543 Жыл бұрын
Americans will measure with anything, except the metric system
@TheVividen
@TheVividen Жыл бұрын
Even elephants
@MonsterZilla452
@MonsterZilla452 Жыл бұрын
Most of these are wrong bud. T rex & Giganotosaurus both are over 10 tons. T rex is 10.45 tons , Giganotosaurus is 10.5 tons. 3rd biggest theropod is Mapusaurus weights 9.12 tons. 4th Carcharodontosaurus is 8.5 tons
@Shimosevilbrother99
@Shimosevilbrother99 Жыл бұрын
​@M&L gang Giga is the biggest kid by recent discovery. Get updated kid
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0 Жыл бұрын
@@Shimosevilbrother99 your the kid
@trav1549
@trav1549 Ай бұрын
I love how about 80% of these megatheropods belong to the carcharodontosauridae. That family is overpowered ash.
@Logan-gl5mx
@Logan-gl5mx Жыл бұрын
Great video bro, but take that filter out of the beginning.
@Shimosevilbrother99
@Shimosevilbrother99 Жыл бұрын
Most of these are outdated. Lets correct these with 2023 theropod size comparison based on the paleo spreadsheet. Btw you've missed many megatheropods. Lets go ' All updated' Tier list 16. Oxalaia - 3,310 kg 15. Edmarka rex- 4,800 kg 14. NHMG 8500( Epanterias )- 5,700 kg 13. Torvosaurus ingens- 5,140 kg 12. Acrocanthosaurus- 6,600 kg 11. Therizinosaurus- 6,664 kg 10. Saurophaganax- 6,740 kg 9. Spinosaurus aegyptiacus- 6,810 kg 8.Sauroniops pachytholus- 7,771kg 7. Spinosaurinae indet- 7,840 kg 6. Tyrannotitan- 8,200 kgs 5. Deinocheirus- 8,410 kg 6. Carcharodontosaurus- 8,450 kg 3. Mapusaurus- 9,120 kg 8:27 the destroyer Tier 2. Tyrannosaurus Rex- 10,450 kg 1. Giganotosaurus carolinii- 10,500 kg
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0 Жыл бұрын
It’s based of speculation
@Tarbo450
@Tarbo450 Жыл бұрын
​@@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0 no
@giulialigabue3361
@giulialigabue3361 5 ай бұрын
No,Tyrannosaurus rex 11.700 kg Giganotosaurus carolini 10.200 kg
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