Melbourne’s Rail Projects To Be Completed In 2024

[@guy9732]

One of the two things I liked about the Comeng was their socially acceptable unique horn sound. Now it's only the comfy seats I like about the Comeng.

[@Comeng_]

Real

[@LachlanKellett]

Yeah, gonna miss the classic Comeng horn

[@thunderturbine8860]

The Comeng fleet was a huge part of my childhood and growing up. I love the sounds of the train and the seating as well

[@shraka]

If they're gonna change the horn they should make it quieter. Or at least stop them from having to use it every 5 seconds - we're one of the few places in the western world with so much horn use.

[@therealsammyvee888]

Looks like 2024 is set to be a massive year for Melbourne's rail network. Great video explaining all the different projects. Well done.

[@fjeoijweiojfweio8212]

big year for Australian rail in general: sydney metro extension, paramatta light rail, and Perth's Metronet all set to open (or partially open) this year.

[@Comeng_]

Egg

[@therealsammyvee888]

​@fjeoijweiojfweio8212 Indeed you're right.

[@EBGamez1]

Egg

[@BLACKSTA361]

Egg

[@fauzirahman3285]

I think many people will still call it the Pakenham line even with the open of the extension. Many people just call the Geelong line that instead of Waurn Ponds.

[@markspublictransportvideos8429]

Parkdale station is scheduled to open in August

[@allangibson8494]

Technically the Pakenham extension is an electrification RESTORATION. The entire line to Traralgon used to be electrified…

[@Wdeane1957]

It's been electrified for years past where the new Pakenham East station is being constructed. This is for access to the Pakenham East Train Maintenance workshop and yards further east past the Princes Freeway.

[@user-pv2zo1tv5p]

thanks to that f wit kennett who removed it

[@JackStavris]

Yeah you can still see some of the remnants of the electrification at Warragul, shame they took it down since they can easily make electric Vlocity sets. The Vlocity is a standard design used in Perth and Adelaide for their suburban trains which are electric.

[@illiiilli24601]

​@@JackStavrisvlocity is based on the Xplorer/Endeavour, but B series trains are a not the same as Vlocity. Of course, being made by Bombardier at the same time, the B series do share a lot of traits with Vlocity

[@joshuawatling1314]

5:58 Wasn't the 2018 Mernda extension the most recent, not Sunbury?

[@Deadlokked]

Possibly he means the most recent conversion from diesel to electric, since I believe the Mernda extension was new track. The Sunbury tracks already had VLine services (and so do the tracks past Pakenham). But otherwise yeah you're right

[@Comeng_]

Real

[@StrayaTrains]

Yes. The comment above explains what I meant though

[@PaulNoake]

Can't wait to see the SSR X'trap 2.0 transfer trains from here in Ballarat to Melbourne 🙂

[@Comeng_]

Real

[@MelbourneRailfan]

I hope the Metro Tunnel opens ahead of schedule for 2024 🤞

[@virginiusmaximus7006]

I work on the tunnel. The actual tunnel is finished, but the stations definitely won't be finished this year.

[@IainShepherd1]

I am nervous considering the story of London’s equivalent, crossrail. That was “running on time 👍” right up till 1 month before opening when they couldn’t hide the delays any longer.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Probably why they haven't officially changed it from "2025"

[@Cmoose]

5:20 My theory is that hawksburn station will become a station for interchanging for those lines. It should revive an upgrade too, it is a shame Dandenong line trains won’t go through south Yarra, however the station exit it too close to the Yarra River for a tunnel to be built.

[@australiannewsarchive2]

Metro Tunnel is opening next year but excited for it! Can't wait to start running from Melbourne Central to State Library to make trains lol

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

It could be next year or even late this year.

[@thepiratequeen89]

I'm looking forward to the new Keon Park station! Nearly life-long Epping/South Morang/Mernda line person here (some time spent living along the Hurstbridge line). I love seeing more views along the skyrail sections in Reservoir and Preston!

[@mikldude9376]

Yeah same here , only In recent years the camp crossing thank god finally got the ass , as for keon Pete crossing, councils and politicians have been threatening to do something about that for bloody decades, aw mate what a pain in the ass crossing, not unheard of to be trapped at keon Pde crossing for 8 minutes😮 omg lol.

[@themelbournerailfan]

Mate I’m glad you covered this thanks for all the updates.

[@TheVictorianPlanespotter]

I looked it up on Vicsig, apparently it’s to lessen confusion, and the extension is only happening to remove the need for a sky rail crossover

[@AgentMulder1805]

Nice one, mate. I was at Seaford Station today to film next to one of the level crossings due for removal. Good info about Parkdale, I'll be heading up there next week then. Have a great weekend! 🚂🚂🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 + new sub 👍

[@StrayaTrains]

Thanks :)

[@michaelstevenson9276]

very much looking forward to the xtrap 2.0, and will ride them daily next year (as im based on the craigieburn line)

[@hassansayyab1194]

Awesome video mate can’t wait for new Keon park station open in spring this year 😊👍🚉🚉🎉

[@Wdeane1957]

The best station to change from the east for the Metro Tunnel is Caulfield. Passengers from the Frankston line can change here for Pakenham, Cranbourne and Metro Tunnel. Cut out the stops at Malvern for Tunnel trains to maximise the express potential capability.

[@Andrew-df1dr]

Any idea of plans for Kooyong Station? As well as the adjacent Glenferrie Road level crossing?

[@StrayaTrains]

Nothing as if yet

[@samuelrichardson1564]

I caught that 8:14 direct to Frankston from West Footscray. Wondered what the hell was going on lol.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Narre Warren is already looking close to finished, went past it on the train last week

[@StrayaTrains]

Yea!

[@Arjun_Emeralds]

I am so sorry for the long essay of a comment but I do have a question about the Metro Tunnel and the suburban loop. When the metro tunnel opens, does that mean Pakenham and Cranbourne trains do not go to South Yarra anymore or do some services just go directly to flinders street and some use the metro tunnel? And one more about the suburban loop, so when the rail loop is opened in 2030, will there be another tunnel built at sunshine station for the airport rail and a new green train running services in it? I really wanna know also I had a cool idea. I was thinking, metro could treat us with a special of how the Pakenham and Cranbourne lines would have looked like with Comeng, Siemens, HCMT and even Xtrapolis trains running timetables services from Pakenham/Cranbourne to the city and back?!

[@StrayaTrains]

When the Metro Tunnel opens, no timetables services will run through Flinders Street (and South Yarra). Maybe extra services will like after a Footy game. Not sure what's happening with the Suburban Rail Loop. It's likely over 25 years away

[@Arjun_Emeralds]

I feel like they can't just force every train to go on the metro tunnel as some people need to get to Flinders Street and changing everytime is just painful. @@StrayaTrains

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

​@@Arjun_EmeraldsI agree it'll be annoying but if you're in Pakenham and need Flinders you either swap trains at Caulfield or walk from townhall to Flinders. Yeah they'll be some downsides but overall benefits.

[@Arjun_Emeralds]

@@dylanshadowstar9779 i think the Town Hall one is better as getting from Platform 3 - 1 at Caufield means a whole walk i think in the underpass which is annoying so yeah, wait so is platforms 5 and 6 just spare platforms at South Yarra after then or are they getting demolished?

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

@@Arjun_Emeralds currently they'd just be completely spare. Although regardless of the platforms, the track will always exist to serve Vline services to Gippsland.

[@Dream_M1]

Great video. Thanks for the updates. 👍

[@shaunmckenzie5509]

If Sandringham passengers want to go to the metro tunnel they'd change at Flinders-Townhall, or get a 58 from south yarra to go towards Anzac and St Kilda Rd. Ill be surprised if they stop them at Hawksburn Mernda was extended after Sunbury Pakenham will likely stay the line name. It's still going to Pakenham (the suburb). No need to change the line name imo.

[@danielmolino661]

In the recent release of photos of Arden Station being completed you can see a line map above the PSDs. This map alludes to the stopping pattern once the tunnel is open which looks like it won't change as it displays Anzac then Malvern.

[@StrayaTrains]

Yes various options for the Sandi Line. Mernda was extended after Sunbury but the latest mere electrification extension of existing track is Sunbury Line

[@aarontrevithick6239]

I feel kinda sad about the comeng's retiring from service. Ive always liked riding on them and as a commuter of the hurstbridge line i dont get to see them much now but ive been exploring other lines recently and have been able to make the most of them while their still around. I am looking forward to the new xtraps though

[@Nevergonnagiveyouup504]

yay one of my friends caught the x trap 2.0 project at alstom Ballarat

[@StrayaTrains]

Cool

[@Nevergonnagiveyouup504]

@@StrayaTrains ur the best

[@m31tdown]

I live in Ballarat. Signs have been up for almost a year now outside Alstom, but it's nice to see the government commit to something massive

[@kristiankj7026]

The trains are being built in ballarat and they have only started production just before Christmas last year

[@youngsenr1563]

did you mean the mernda extension in 2018?

[@StrayaTrains]

Technically there was an existing track and the line was shut years ago. Then slowly extended various times back to Mernda. But the last electrification only extension was on the Sunbury Line

[@matheuswolters3448]

4:24 i highly doubt this would happen but since the hcmt's would more or less takeover from the siemens and comeng trains on the sunbury line like they did on the pakenham/cranbourne lines, i hope this means some comengs would be able to return to service on the hillside lines

[@infkilz855]

Let’s hope so that the comeng’s do return to service on hillside lines but I doubt they will as there are way too many x trapolis on that side of the network

[@matheuswolters3448]

@@infkilz855 yeah i know but hopefully there can be a few comeng runs on the hillside lines again.

[@HarishDharmapalan]

@@infkilz855 never. New drivers on the Hillside lines aren’t qualified to drive them there

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Unlikely. They're very slowly moving towards a slow extinction of comeng trains. First Sunbury can push its former siemans trains to other lines. And the new Xtrapolis2 will go on Craigieburn and upfield, pushing out more comeng.

[@infkilz855]

@@HarishDharmapalan yeah that’s another reason

[@cactx8098]

The Indigenous livery xtraps actually look sick

[@normandiebryant6989]

Will these new X-Trap 2s and any new Melbourne suburban trains have the doors at the same spots as the new HCMTs, to ensure they match up with the new Metro platform doors?

[@StrayaTrains]

Most likely very similar positioning in each carriage. But remember the X'Trap 2.0s will be 6 carriages as opposed to the 7 carriage HCMT!

[@johnatvillageadvisory9383]

Pakenham East meets the Victorian place names code where direction comes after place, except for Melbourne, West Footscray, South Yarra, South Morang.

[@Wdeane1957]

Pakenham Upper, always get a smile.

[@ironwheelsroaming]

Great video ..thank you for update...👍👍

[@JimmiAlli]

I hope that you can do a video on Melbourne’s airport link! 😊

[@StrayaTrains]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@JimmiAlli]

@@StrayaTrains thanks heaps! 🙏😊

[@pierreinthavong181]

Awesome video!😁

[@magnalucian8]

Brimbank-Sunshine community is distressed by the apparent go-slow on the Airport Line project. haven't we waited long enough?

[@shraka]

The level crossing removals would be a lower priority than an Airport rail to my mind - but I guess our transit upgrades need to be oriented around making things more convenient for drivers for some reason.

[@bencoelho3]

Does anybody know anything about a cycling track being built Pakenham to Hallam (or Dandenong)? I'm personally interested in a path between Hallam to Narre Warren

[@markspublictransportvideos8429]

Siemens set 787m-788M has received blue seat patterns like the comengs have and more space for wheelchair and mobility scooters and extra handrails as well

[@StrayaTrains]

Funny how that happened at about the same time this vid was edited. Unfortunately the video was made before that set received the blue PTV seats

[@Nevergonnagiveyouup504]

@@StrayaTrains lol

[@markspublictransportvideos8429]

​@StrayaTrains is still got the old seat patterns with stations named on them

[@dumbasstudios]

i just want the new screens the siemens got but i the xtrapolis and also they need to completely standardise the seat fabrics because it’s a bit of a mess, so either the blue ptv livery or whatever they did on the hcmt seats

[@Thing_Guy]

keon park opened on the 27 of june

[@richlawrence4160]

the system where destination defines the line name is unusual and confusing. More confusing when trains do not reach the final destination. eg to tell a tourist to get to mitcham, the train could be lilydale, belgrave, ringwood, upper ferntree gully etc. Much easier to say catch any green or blue line train. Line names are used everywhere else I know of including melbourne trams (rout 75 etc).

[@Gustavo-lz5mi]

The first time I took the train to go to the city on the Pakenham line, I was very confused and ended up taking the train in the opposite direction. Later I learnt that the train lines are called after the last station, as well as the being aware that sometimes the manes changed depending on where the train ended.

[@Alexander_Dunn]

7:40 why was that a 3-car train?

[@StrayaTrains]

Just what Metro ran

[@Littledrummerdude123_]

Between the comeng and siemens which do you prefer?

[@StrayaTrains]

Comeng. What about you?

[@Littledrummerdude123_]

@@StrayaTrains same here they look much better But nothing can beat the high capacity metro trains

[@TimChuma]

Ground not suited for trench in Parkdale too sandy obviously. I remember seeing the geology map somewhere.

[@flynnbop]

Do you think the metro tunnel stations personally could actually finish construction this year?

[@StrayaTrains]

Never 100% sure as I haven't seen anything myself. But based on what has been said publicly, I think so

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Arden is 100% finished. Anzac and Parkville are close. It's the CBD stations that are a while away

[@tomhenry6440]

Keon Park station will open in September or October

[@Low760]

The rich in parkdale didn't get thier way which is nice. Croydon station Skyrail will be nice.

[@zoltrix7779]

Except for the extra traffic its going to create, they have built extra roads for that one, but yes Skyrail will be nice

[@Low760]

@@zoltrix7779 extra traffic for a station that's already there without a rail crossing?

[@VaughanMcAlley]

It’s weird they wanted a trench. I was a bit disappointed when I found out that Croydon was going to be Skyrail and that Ringwood East was going to be the only trench from Ringwood to Lilydale (I know Skyrail was never going to happen in Ringwood East with the existing climb up to Dubin Road). The Ringwood East and Croydon sites are both pretty chaotic at the moment, but the Skyrail supports in progress make Croydon look worse. Croydon is also split in half for longer, as Dublin Rd will be able to reopen a month before the train returns. In the end though, Skyrail could really transform the feel of Croydon and unify areas on each side of the station.

[@kathunter3326]

Can someone tell me why Parkdale residents don’t like the Skyrail idea because that’s confusing the hell out of me

[@user300daad00dwa]

As a Parkdale resident, it's really a small but loud group of people. I personally don't know anyone who's against it. Skyrail will be good for Parkdale.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

​@@user300daad00dwaagreed. I don't understand people who hate skyrail. It's been proven that those who hate it aren't people using trains.

[@rofromoz1361]

People whose homes will now be greatly overlooked by skyrail have a very valid reason for not liking it...

[@VictusPrime]

How does one get the ball rolling in applying for a metro train driver/trainee position? I keep seeing how these sweeping changes to the network will mean more trains and more often, which I would assume means the necessity for more drivers, but I can never seem to find any information on it online.

[@StrayaTrains]

The best way is to look on the careers page. When a trainee driver intake opens, apply :)

[@billhackett6715]

Pity that Laburnum being the first did not get anywhere the facilities that the newer stations got. Concrete cracking rust on station edge. Did not get a raised platform at drivers end to help disabled. Others such as Union received drink fountain. Come from Melbourne and live on south side. Must walk 2.5 times station length. Hard for disabled on hot days and in rain. Rain shelter very poor.

[@StrayaTrains]

100%. Hard to believe it's one of the newer stations!

[@RumperTumskin]

To be fair, Mont Albert station was completely removed (Union being much closer to the Surrey Hills site). Not exactly a "win" for accessibility, densification, or encouraging PT there...

[@KenanTurkiye]

I ❤ 🚂🚃 trains 🚄 🚅 trams 🚈🚞 take a ride, I have a folder on ''transportation'' (folder 4) I think you will love them too :)

[@LeonSuperman-vb7ex]

Ti love 9000 train look cool

[@Mediawatcher2023]

The trains are set to enter service between 2024 and 2026.

[@HarishDharmapalan]

No this year theyll be tested. Next year sometime service

[@Mediawatcher2023]

@@HarishDharmapalan they they be traveling on one line only or is it all lines

[@thismetrotunnellife]

AKA Melbourne’s never ending Rail Projects To Be Completed In 2024? PROJECT Waterman is documenting Suburban Rail Loop, focusing mainly on SRL East - Box Hill. This Metro Tunnel Life has previously won recognition for coverage of Blackburn Level Crossing Removal. Currently in post-production for Mont Albert Level Crossing Removal and Surrey Hills Level Crossing Removal

[@garygary6032]

SAVE THE COMENG HORN (and get rid of the terrible xtrampoline's horn) seriously the amount of times i've been jumpscared by an xtrapolis honking is absurd

[@andydelarue9344]

Twelve car trains ,? Who are you kidding? What stations are you going to double in length.

[@StrayaTrains]

For testing they will be coupled. Hence we will see a twelve car train

[@johnvuong5496]

I highly doubt that the Metro Tunnel will open this year in September, considering the fact that the CBD underground stations aren't even close to completion from what I've heard, but who knows? At least Arden station is finished and hopefully more workers will be allocated to the Town Hall and State Library, though it would be ideal if Metro Tunnel does open this year but I would rather if they stick to it's planned 2025 date in order to perform more safety and reliability testing. Also looking forward to X-Traps 2.0 on the Craigieburn and Upfield lines, it's about time that both those lines receive newer rollingstock.

[@hugomal]

According to the ombudsman it's meant to be done by September 2024. However, there are two months of COVID induced delays, bringing the opening to November. It is most likely that we will see it open this year

[@ondrejsedlak4935]

I work on some of the metro tunnel stations and most of them are actually almost finished and pretty much ready for service. The areas that aren't finished are not going to be accessible to passengers anyway. Town Hall is the only one that's lagging behind a bit but only in terms of non-passenger areas. Town Hall being the main station, consists of 6 underground levels, most of which are just for equipment which once again, won't affect early passenger services.

[@hugomal]

@@ondrejsedlak4935 very interesting. I'm looking forward to the opening

[@quarkcypher]

@@ondrejsedlak4935 I live in Sydney, but as a rail enthusiast I would like to see the new Melbourne underground line open as soon as possible. I will check it out when it does. Thanks for the info.I am also excited about the Metro lines being developed in Sydney and Brisbane.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

This is probably why there hasn't been an official announcement of the 2024 date. Just in case it's not ready. I'm no expert but it could go either way. Arden is done, Parkville and Anzac seem close. The CBD ones seem more behind.

[@QIKUGAMES-QIKU]

Fixing Monash Freeway is still urgently needed

[@RumperTumskin]

Putting the emergency lanes back in, and reinstating the 100km/h limit for the whole length you mean?

[@funk44]

That Yarraville level crossing badly needs to go or Anderson St closed to traffic entirely

[@StrayaTrains]

Agreed

[@jimpikoulis6726]

Mentone is Bentone

[@Secretlyanothername]

Are any of these trains driverless?

[@StrayaTrains]

Nah

[@victorianrichard8097]

Melbourne rail project complete in 2024

[@thunderturbine8860]

Too bad Siemens didn't get a 2.0 train, I like the Xtrap 2.0 but given that how Xtrap 1.0 performed (I'm on the Mernda line) this train is terrible.) Though time will tell what happens (I love the Comeng and Siemens trains the most)

[@RumperTumskin]

XT2 is a completely different train to the current fleet. Nothing in common beyond the name and the "Alstom-ness" of the design.

[@thunderturbine8860]

@@RumperTumskin I sure hope so

[@KellyManfield-rd2wf]

Now we will have to listen to a terrible horn for the last years of the comeng😭

[@shraka]

... Why they gotta make the horn louder? It's already so annoying.

[@bluckfox]

Straya Trains 2.0

[@JackStavris]

The Commeng horn is a downgrade, they sound awful, very loud and jarring like the X’Trap horns sound. The old tri-tone was so much more pleasant.

[@RumperTumskin]

It's the same horn as XT

[@lunartransit]

First

[@Nevergonnagiveyouup504]

tonnyyyyyyyyy

[@AshleyReynolds-vc6ly]

The Metro tunnel is a big waste of money. The ONLY extra capacity it will provide is by taking the Sunbury line out of the Northern loop. The Caulfield, Sandy and Newport groups of lines already have their own dedicated tracks that they don't share with other lines - the tunnel just means they will use different lines but it won't increase capacity. The Burnley and Clifton Hill group won't be affected at all. And most people who work in St Kilda Rd or up at the uni will keep using the trams because they will be faster, more frequent, and a lot more convenient. The sad thing is there was a better way - by altering the portals to the existing city loop they could have redirected trains to run from Richmond to North Melbourne via Parliament and Flagstaff and acheived MORE extra capacity, and it would have cost a lot less and been finished years ago. The level crossing removal project is of very little benefit to trains - it is for improving roads. There is no limit to how many trains you can run through a level crossing, it just means the booms stay down longer. Not saying they shouldn't remove them, but it should not be painted as a 'green' public transport improvement, it should be called what it is, a roads project, and be paid for out of the road budget and not the public transport budget.

[@bobbyphillips8732]

Three door exit I never liked. Should of been two, it waste space. But then again it does get people in and out quicker

[@rofromoz1361]

There is no value at all for Sandy line passengers on all this.

[@GizmoGTI]

low horn - what a joke

[@DJAYPAZ]

What the fix level crossing removals that were botched? Politics will prevent any fixes for sure.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Which ones are your referring to

[@DJAYPAZ]

Essendon

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

@@DJAYPAZ how'd they mess up Essendon?

[@peterfromgw4615]

So when is the Labour Government going to see fit to spend money on level crossing removals on the Glen Waverley line. All our tax money is being spent on level crossings out in the sticks (e.g. Pakenham and Cranbourne lines) and stuff all on the Glen Waverley line. It’s way past time services for Glen Waverley commuters was improved….. but then there are stuff all votes for Labour in this part of the world.

[@COOLARUL]

I don’t know what the UK’s Labour Government has to do with the Glen Waverley line.

[@peterfromgw4615]

@@COOLARUL Sport, I checked the post again and I didn’t see any references to anything UK but your sarcastic comment was noted. For your information, “laboUr” is spelt with a “U” in Australia, not using the imbecilic “American” spelling as the morons in the state and federal Australian LaboUr Party have taken to using. And for your info, I had the unfortuante expeience of have useless “Teflon Dan” Andrews as my local MP for his “reign” until the 2022 state election when my area in Mulgrave electorate was mysteriously hived off just prior to the election. A more useless group of individuals (aside from those in the Liberal Party) you would not find when looking through the Victorian LaboUr Party “government”.

[@deanl4575]

@@COOLARULSeriously, who cares about the single letter U in Labor or Labour, so pedantic

[@zoltrix7779]

Out in the sticks? There has been level crossing removals all over Melbourne. Did you not look these things up? Glen Waverley lines runs through many LNP suburbs, yes, some will say that means Labor will not do anything for a safe LNP seat, but they would also have to deal with the never ending whinging of planning those areas. THE most important LX removal on that line is Madden Gv Burnley., then High St Glen Iris. TBH, Kooyong an Tooronga are not that important compared to others on Melbourne's network. Your have obviously also forgotten Burke Rd and Toorak Rd removals that were on the Glen Waverley line.

[@peterfromgw4615]

@@zoltrix7779 Burke Road was removed by the previous Liberal Party government with Toorak Road being replaced during “Teflon Dan”s reign of terror prior to the COVID pandemic. I’m fed up with OUR tax money being used to remove those crossings in the back blocks of Sunbury, Pakenham and Cranbourne. Just to suck up to Labour supporters and buying votes.

[@TheRailFanner8922]

im still pretty annoyed with the level crossing like i mean they are just ripping down old stations that looks pretty cool and replacing them i would rather they keep it the same because most level crossings really arent that dangerouse its just the people who are the problem and not to mention the comeng melbourne trainspotting and riding them will feel completely diffrent with all new stations and trains its sad everythings gone

[@Tracksafe]

The level crossing removals are primarily about being able to increase the frequency and reliability of trains running, without impact to road traffic. Safety is only a small part of it. Simply saying “people are the problem” doesn’t make much sense. By that logic…I could build a giant hole in the ground and watch people fall in, while saying people are the problem and the hole looks nice.

[@TheRailFanner8922]

it only depends on the person who decides to drive carelessly in my opinion some of those train and driver accidents were caused by the driver of that car. level crossings at stations should not be dangerous as trains really dont go to fast when leaving or entering a station i get what you mean when you said that. but i was saying basically my opinion

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

​@@TheRailFanner8922fact is though the more frequent a train service, the more the boom gates are down, the more traffic slows.

[@TheRailFanner8922]

thats true but imagine this being like 27 or 20 years ago nothing would have been different @@dylanshadowstar9779

[@jimpikoulis6726]

Low capacity metro 🚇 trains!!!!!

[@ACDZ123]

I thought Melbourne was broke? Dont you need money to finish these projects or is the state debt just going to become even more astronomical

[@zoltrix7779]

Having debt and being "broke" are two different things. In your world, having a mortgage means you are broke.

[@ACDZ123]

@@zoltrix7779 yeah nah. You're just trying to defend the out of control debt that Daniel Andrews left Victoria in. Had to cancel the commonwealth games because....guess why? No money 👍

[@ACDZ123]

@@zoltrix7779 also in my world having a mortgage means you don't own shit...the bank does ..see how reality works? But it's nice living in your world I guess...mayb rainbow unicorns live there as well?

[@zoltrix7779]

@@ACDZ123 The Commonwealth games have needed cancelling for the last 20 years, completely irrelevant competition. Agree it was a waste of money to begin with.

[@StrayaTrains]

Interesting thought. We will see what happens

[@TreFR14]

"No views"

[@StrayaTrains]

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[@Nevergonnagiveyouup504]

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[@TheTrainMan0]

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[@TreFR14]

when i first clicked on the video there were no views

[@rodericksmith8218]

Alas, most of them aren't worth the budget spent on propaganda. The misnamed tunnel isn't a metro, and is undersignalled, and bizarrely doesn't have a station at South Yarra. The new trains are in no sense useful, and simply repeat the badly-designed misnamed 'high capacity' trains. The new stations as part of level-crossing removals are bleak and harsh: grey steel and concrete. LXRP hates greenery, and that shows in its lack of landscaping, left to die as the budget runs out. What we never get is 'turn up and go' services, or convenient interchanges. PTV hasn't learned anything from the 1850s break of gauge disaster: a new lot of incompatibility.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Hates greenery? Every skyrail Ive been to has tons of open and pleasant space underneath. I do agree metro tunnel should have had an underground station at South Yarra. And new trains are good as some our trains are old.

[@vsvnrg3263]

are you sure there was a lot of community support for parkdale trenchrail? i ask because there were complaints about skyrailing the line around murrumbeena. they even had a yt channel. unfortunately, they had only had 8 views when i went to the channel and i'm a skyrail fan. there were complainers about a skyrail near the mordialloc creek. it is possible but incredibly difficult to do trenchrail through a creek. you cant plant native trees in the trench. native trees bring native wildlife. losers!

[@StrayaTrains]

Yes. Whole webpage and social media presence. Had a petition even. Was all a little too late

[@vsvnrg3263]

@@StrayaTrains , how many signed the petition?

[@vsvnrg3263]

i can answer my own question. 6,000. i just found a 7news report on it. a pack of losers who get excited at the prospect of waiting at a level crossing for 15 minutes. losers! all of them! i notice the opposition transport spokesperson was there.

[@TimChuma]

And the rest! Metro tunnel not until 2026 easy!

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

It's likely early 2025

[@gregquan5647]

skysails are simply terrible. Either keep the road at grade or the rail and one should go under. Building these monstrosities blocking out the sun from their neighbours is a complete and utter joke. The Government putting up pretty pictures of parks (cough) under these monstrosities to save money is a joke. Gee, I wonder why Surry Hills/Mont Albert wasn't simply built as a sky bridge? Because people with money would never stand for it! Look at the difference between the Box Hill to Canterbury rail corridor to the, well let's just say the whole line out to Dandenong from Caulfield. Ok I live in the inner East so I'm happy but those in the South East surly are appalled given the infrastructure that was built on the Eastern line - hell even Bayswater went under! Simply terrible and we'll have to put up with it for at least another 100 years. Enjoy my Great Grand children!

[@jakal0]

Have you actually been to a completed skyrail anywhere? The Coburg one is loved and the new open space, parks and play areas get massive use. I'm so glad they're extending all the way down through Brunswick.

[@quarkcypher]

There are part elevated rail lines in Sydney and Brisbane. Rail on viaducts looks okay to me. Viaducts are safer than level crossings. I don't live in Melbourne so I will have to come on down and have a look.

[@zoltrix7779]

You might be shocked by this but, Skyrail wasn't built at Mont Albert because it is on top of a hill. Same reason its not being built at Bedford Rd or Ringwood East, they are on top of hills. Honestly, some people

[@Wdeane1957]

In a trench there is no usable space under or over the train line. With skyrail there is space for parks, carparking, play areas. Too expensive to build tunnels.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

1: have you ever been under skyrail such as between Caulfield and Clayton? It's beautiful with peaceful paths and parks. 2: ride a train, on skyrail you see vast views. In a trench you grey ugly walls.

[@Andrew-df1dr]

Any idea of plans for Tooronga Station? As well as the adjacent Rooronga Road level crossing?

[@StrayaTrains]

Not at the moment