Men's 800m - 2023 NCAA indoor track and field championships

[@wells9752]

I am one of Navasky's biggest fa and I say disqualify him yes. He did not need to do that.

[@billyalberty5202]

I would agree, he covered almost 2 entire lanes the last 20 meters to completely block his opponent out. He crossed the finished line in the 4th fkn lane, he got pushed out so far. Very unfortunate for the young man, didn't need to do it.

[@cheuk5917]

He would have run a longer path and done a longer time if he didn't run straight on the straight runway...

[@nuno9733]

​@@cheuk5917tell me you know nothing about trajectory without telling me you know nothing about trajectory

[@AirOnTheAir]

Very deliberate and he didn’t even HAVE to do it… literally would’ve won and now he’s DQ’d!🤷🏾‍♂️

[@harmankardon478]

he was not winning that, he was going no where..

[@davidnogle2661]

Yea he wasn't winning that but could've had 2nd 😂

[@CalvinHikes]

That kid from Texas waited patiently and made an excellent run. Good win.

[@calvinonmc]

I didn’t expect to see you here. Guess we both enjoy both caving AND running!

[@JCJeffrey]

Play dirty, get dirty results! I ran collegiate D1 800. He knows that move is never tolerated, pretty ridiculous when he had the lead.

[@philipwilliams5897]

Man just was just making sure he won

[@nirobimills4557]

@@philipwilliams5897 accept defeat that’s not how you race

[@ryanjung4416]

this is just basic race strategy. that dude got out maneuvered

[@zipp0z291]

@@ryanjung4416 this isn't Nascar, you can't do that that.

[@musik102]

I bet most if these comments are from Americans. We can now say that it's official: Americans have well and truly lost their moral compass. Shame on you!

[@arvandero]

"that move was clean" - Paul Chelimo

[@thaddeebarge4023]

😂

[@minuteman3098]

underrated comment

[@christiansantana4869]

Top comment 😂

[@dannyb993]

😂

[@mattsilva4377]

That move should be legal! It is a race! He is ahead of him and dictates the direction he wants to go. He should of went inside! My coach taught me that in aau! They go out…you go in!!

[@jchibzzchhh-tu6lf]

He knew he was gonna get caught up , for anyone saying he got robbed you guys are blind . The brudda went across a lane and tried to marshal him like a corner back wtf

[@tinodamatsatsa2669]

2 lanes😭

[@nirobimills4557]

Yeh buddy that’s a DQ😂😂wtf he moves to lane THREE not just swung out a little into lane 2.

[@jeranimo.gaming]

He would’ve won, but he decided to play dirty

[@Lonzology]

Hows that dirty. You would do the same if you were in that situation.

[@ryanjensen4061]

He was dead tired he was just trying to finish the race, going out in 50.5 and holding on the whole race

[@nohands6865]

@@Lonzology going from lane 1 to 3 is a little absurd. He was clearly blocking

[@Lonzology]

@@nohands6865 I'd like to see you run close or faster than what he ran and not look exhausted. You make stupid comments with no experience what so ever.

[@dashielcockrill998]

@@Lonzology It's aginst the rules and everyone knows it

[@steddie123]

If he had continued in lane he was in, he would’ve won, he panicked and ran wide to block Yusuf🤷🏻‍♂️

[@joelwillems4081]

Must have been the sun in his eyes.

[@mjn245]

Would have been nice to see the official results after the DQ. And what happened to Will Sumner? DNF?

[@dennisrobinson8008]

Stats show him @ 1:51, not sure how that happen. On Navasky 1:45 timing at altitude that would've been 1:44 near sea level.

[@binkyxz3]

Sumner was 7th in 1:51.46. Everyone on the video results just move up one spot with the DQ.

[@matthewflores4935]

Moving to the outside at the end was kinda dirty

[@olly761]

Rubbing is racing son

[@aleixcatalani3953]

That's why they disqualified him

[@zpttpzzpt]

@@olly761 L ass comment

[@Joemama-sn2hl]

@@zpttpzzpt L ass profile photo + runner

[@olly761]

@@zpttpzzpt bruh

[@blainejohnson9954]

Good, if he had only gone into lane 2 that’s be one thing, but into lane 3/4 in the span of 20 meters is obviously impressment. There’s a difference between defending your position by slow and gradual push outwards and blatantly cutting someone off. Good DQ, maybe he’ll have learned his lessons

[@Leo.Ladewig]

Regardless of the ending, Navasky been that guy. He winning the outdoors this year

[@alexrogers3140]

Facts no printer my guy! Buddy was 5 times better than everyone else in the field.

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@Freedom N. , Liberty Considering this was his first proper 800m of the year and he still whipped them into the ground, I would say yes, he is winning outdoors

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@Freedom N. , Liberty You seem very angry 🤣

[@RonnyHurdles]

Still gotta keep an eye on Rhoden

[@MsCoachLong]

hopefully he stays in lane 1 or 2 and doesnt impede anybody

[@tonydiaz2541]

If Paul Chelimo wasn't DQ'd at the US Trials 5k in 2021 for going out to lane 5 to cut off Grant Fisher, then Anderson shouldn't have.

[@frankthetank559]

I was thinking the exact same thing, I think it’s fair cause there was no physical contact

[@wonDER1973]

USATF and NCAA rulebooks are different.

[@keys-disease]

That’s not how it works and it never should be how it works. Officials obviously don’t convene and just discuss “well what happened when Paul chelimo did this?” These are case by case decisions and the situations surrounding them are significantly different

[@keys-disease]

@@wonDER1973 Also the politics involved in the Chelimo case. The Olympic committee would’ve absolutely been under fire from everybody if they DQ’d Chelimo. Everyone wants to see the best athletes represent the U.S in the Olympics. There would’ve been uproar. Additionally, Chelimo caused no harm because all 3 runners had already secured spots

[@rsnowden0524]

this was much more blatant

[@runnerman8]

1:45.90 should still count as the Jamaican national record. He still ran the time he ran, and the person he cut off isn't Jamaican.

[@tylerr4184]

Going to be real knit picky here but it seems to me that the DQ was due to the abrupt run out to lane 3 in the home stretch. Based on the rule cited though, that does not seem to be the case. The rule cited was 7.5-3a which implies that this was not due to the lane drift as 7.5-3b or maybe even 7.5-3c(can't remember which off the top of my head) more explicitly denotes. Based on the cited rule, seems that the implication was the sort of flailing towards the finish was what ultimately DQ'd him. I just find that very strange that this is the cited rule on the results.

[@tylerr4184]

@Freedom N. , Liberty No you're definitely right and that's why I'm confused... That's why I'm being knit picky on the rule cited. There's a rule explicitly for that and they didn't cite that rule as the grounds for the DQ.

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@Freedom N. , Liberty It's not illegal. You are allowed to move into any lane on the track you want and has literally been a tactic in this sport for decades. Washington legitimately conspired to box in Garcia Romo and block him from the win in the outdoor 1500m last year, no DQ, Paul Chelimo chronically does this, no DQ, Athing Mu and Letesenbet Gidey secure both 800m and 10k WORLD titles doing this last year, no DQ. Did you recently take up track?

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@Freedom N. , Liberty First of all, this is something that has happened an incalculable amount of times in WA sanctioned events, and the NCAA is bound by the rules of the governing body. It is not illegal. Shall I link you to videos from just last year's world champs where this same instance of moving wide to keep a lead would have happened without penalty?

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@Freedom N. , Liberty Except if Navasky veered outward he would have impeded no one. The inside was clear and open. Notice I've been dismissing NCAA rules. They are irrelevant to the governing body. No wonder most of their meets aren't even acknowledged by WA

[@brianmcewen3082]

Nitpicky.

[@NickCager]

He clearly impeded the guy about to pass him. He tainted the guy's victory.

[@LifeupNinjaTeam]

Yusuf was the stronger finisher, but Navasky already had gained so much real estate/distance, that he would have won.

[@anibaljrbalt]

Absolutely a DQ. That's an Easy Button decision.

[@gardenoftwitty]

People do this all the time and no yellow flag or any comments. Dude didn't even touch guy from TEXAS. Commentators and judges throw shade like a hammer throw

[@aleixcatalani3953]

You don’t have to touch someone to impede them 🤦‍♂️

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@aleixcatalani3953 Yes you do. Have you ever seen an 800m? Teammates literally conspire to lock the best athlete that could beat them in, and that's not a DQ so long as no contact is made.

[@aleixcatalani3953]

@@jordanjordannis2258 They run in lanes 1 and 2 in front of the other athletes. That’s not impeding (in the sense of the rules). Veering off to the side to force a competitor to run a longer distance? That’s a rule break. Check the NCAA rule book for the 23-24 seasons. Page 65 Article 3.c

[@George-nx4bp]

I think he actually does touch him, just watch from 2:30 in half speed. It looks like he flails his right arm backwards almost as if trying to push the guy away.

[@sfcSpidey]

I had someone do that to me in my 1500 in college on back stretch on our like second lap and he ended up spiking my shin in the process he somehow didn’t get disqualified trying to just pass to take the lead for a lap and he literally wouldn’t let me my coach was not happy

[@rubixcubesolve]

He was disqualified for anyone wondering. That’s what you getting for trying to cheat your way to a victory. 0 honor

[@isitrachelorj3953]

Hey Clayton, you see this? 1:45 and change, running from the front.

[@C-R-A-C-K-E-R]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@Aaron86v]

Texas dude was catching up fast. There was still 40-50 meters to go, more than enough distance to catch up. Garbage move. No excuse to move from lane 1 to 3 at the end like that.

[@dexbloodyboy7760]

This move is legit

[@westoaklandutube]

Intentional or not, Anderson screwed-up. The dq is accurate. The saddest thing to me is that Anderson had no need to move from Lane 1. He would have won if he kept his head, and stayed in his lane.

[@GeoAce777]

Sumner goes last Indoors to Champion Outdoors, not too shabby 😏

[@oftenwrongphong]

I'm amazed at his ability to not let fatigue affect his judgement of the lanes until he was being caught near the end. Absolute beast. I'd never be able to see straight under those conditions.

[@ЯрославЖиляев-х5л]

I don't understand why this man got DQ.. He didn't even touch him, he just moved to the other lane, what's wrong with that??!

[@MrPanggs]

So why was he disqualified but Paul Chelimo was able to win USA's and get an olympic medal by using the same strategy?🤨

[@jordanjordannis2258]

It's only acceptable to americans when americans do it

[@barrylloyd5864]

Navasky stepped on the gas too soon . he probably was trying to get the record instead of focusing on the win. He will be the one to beat in the outdoor season

[@George-nx4bp]

Perfect thumbnail on the video, shows how Bizimana was pissed off at Anderson for that BS finish.

[@congero113]

Dirty dirty. Moved over a whole lane and a half then used his arm. The hypoxia was eating his brain I guess. 😅

[@MrDjbuckethead]

No indoors isn't the test. The test will be outdoors

[@markvorster3921]

They let Chelimo do it, why not Navasky

[@curtcarman800]

Cmon now. Navasky deserves that and everyone knows it

[@dashielcockrill998]

It looked to me that he was going to get passed that was a dirty move and he deserved to be DQ'd

[@timmytheinventor4746]

He kinda doesn't. It's called tactics.

[@rsnowden0524]

Get over it. Bizimana was almost surely going to overtake him

[@curtcarman800]

@@timmytheinventor4746 I’m saying he should’ve won

[@timmytheinventor4746]

@@curtcarman800 Oh okay.

[@aidanbacon6264]

I think the front runner would have out right if he’d of just stayed in his lane

[@MrFLstyle]

LMFAOOOOOOO he ran into his lane to not let him get the win

[@youssef5666]

disqualification is normal

[@truth8508]

The Texas runner had to cut stride to avoid hitting him and Texas would have won. DQ was correct call.

[@isaacjennings6986]

That’s clean! Anderson deserves the dub, Texas wasn’t catching him anyways

[@rsnowden0524]

No that's not clean. Pretty clear that Bizimana was gaining fast and likely would've overtaken Anderson; Anderson clearly and sharply cut in front of Bizimana, more so than any "natural" drift at the end of a race

[@kevinkasp]

Yeah, the Texas runner should have just automatically run wide to lane four, giving Anderson the three lanes he’s been trained to simultaneously occupy. Everyone knows the shortest distance is a diagonal, right?

[@alexrogers3140]

@@rsnowden0524 Clean as it gets. Bizimana wasn't going to win anyway. Give the win to Chelimo... I mean Anderson.

[@yashu_n43]

World record is 1.40.91

[@binkyxz3]

That's outdoors. The indoor record is 1:42.67 Wilson Kipketer (Denmark) Paris, France 3/09/97

[@carducci000]

They were right to call him on it. But talitha Diggs did the same thing in the finals for 400. Keep it consistent or dont call it.

[@MsCoachLong]

no she didnt- she did not move out to lane 3

[@carducci000]

@@MsCoachLong more importantly, she moved into the way of the person passing her, on purpose, to prevent her from being passed.

[@WalkerOne]

That was not clean.

[@ianbusche1471]

Paul chelimo did it in the 2021 US 5k race so don’t see why this is any different

[@keys-disease]

As much as I hate it for him I agree with the decision. I agree with the Chelimo decision too. Both broke the rules. It just comes down to Politics. Nobody wanted to see Chelimo miss the Olympics because of an inconsequential break in the rules (Kincaid, Fisher, and Chelimo had all secured spots they were just racing for bragging rights). There would have been uproar against the U.S Olympic Committee

[@rsnowden0524]

Chelimo's tactics were silly but he was matching speed with Fisher and Kincaid. Anderson was clearly running out of gas and Bizimana was overtaking him, Bizimana was directly impeded where Fisher and Kincaid really weren't

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@rsnowden0524 There's the delusional and hypocritical rationalization I was looking for

[@anniekeown8816]

I think the truth is Chelimo should've been DQ'd too - it was a dirty move. Fair call DQing Navasky but Chelimo should've been disqualified too. Hopefully they stick to this rule at every level going forward.

[@jamesbondisamonkey]

He was going to get passed, it's not even close, but I mean, they could have just given him 2nd lol, the dq makes no sense

[@korethoe262]

I ran D1 and won 14 titles and I'm telling you that due is DQ'd!!!!!!!

[@SPHoCkEy918122]

Who the hell are you?

[@mbenidze]

That is unacceptable!

[@harmankardon478]

clear dq

[@brodytenbrink3932]

What is lil baby doin in track bruh

[@raeferwilson2599]

Well guess who s going to Budapest and who isn't?

[@kinglouie313]

Good on the officials for actually DQing Anderson. 100% deserved.

[@Meechooilka]

Since when is this a DQ? They always talk about how it is smart to move to the outside lane to prevent someone from overtaking you.

[@jakeha664]

Not straight up impeding them 🤦‍♂️

[@WalkerOne]

You mean in auto racing?

[@Meechooilka]

@@jakeha664 that's the whole point.

[@alexrogers3140]

@@jakeha664 Brodie didn't even touch him lol. W shoulda gone to Anderson.

[@aleixcatalani3953]

Check out page 65 of the NCAA rule handbook Article 3.c

[@marlonwilliams2805]

That's not a DQ. Athletes drag other athletes wide ALL THE TIME. In ALL types of events. Robbed the man of a great win and a NATIONAL RECORD

[@kakaito1992]

Hugging the outside of lane 1 vs forcing someone out to nearly lane 4 are 2 different things. He made the conscious effort of trying to block him from finishing.

[@daashikii]

no. he didnt say athletes hug lane 1. he said athletes drag other athletes wide. this isnt close to the first time athletes have went out this far from lane 1, but this is definitely the first time i’ve seen an athlete dq because of it.

[@rsnowden0524]

If he wanted a win and a national record he should've played by the rules and not directly veered out in front of the runner about to pass him

[@nirobimills4557]

Bro most athletes swing wide off of the curve. Not the last 50 meters of the straight away. If you are gonna do it make it subtle not deliberate like that

[@runnerman8]

They should still count the national record, as he still ran the time he ran.

[@bobble227]

I love track and ran the 800 for a long time. Big fan of track, but DQ’ing him was such a p*ssy move. It will keep this sport un-watched for years to come

[@degreeO]

No one was impeded. Anderson should not have been disqualified

[@markzylstra2947]

Try watching it again.

[@timothyhilton3408]

Sure was......unsportsmanlike conduct......

[@wilsonbailey9907]

should have just took the 8 pts

[@Brent6434]

Ah I love when justice is served. Good riddance. 100% had to be DQ’d

[@TxTTracktime]

😒

[@robertovaldez4773]

dude is indoors w glasses like wtf

[@evandonahue5456]

That’s drip

[@johnharding7650]

Hiding the ganja eyes

[@smoothnubian]

good that he was disqualified

[@daashikii]

They dqed him for that?

[@jttoolegit]

yeah believe it or not you get DQ'd if you impede another runner, what a wild concept

[@TheRealBrayoTv]

Navasky did what he had to do! No physical contact whatsoever. The rules are getting softer by the day.

[@rsnowden0524]

cutting out into lane 3 and interfering with a runner who's about to overtake you has always been against the rules lol

[@Bonobopantherienbionique]

Your dad was softer when I touched him. Then he got hard but that's due to me being from a younger generation. He was soft, your uncle way better tbh

[@laurena.9434]

It's a race. If he should win, he should win because he ran faster, not because he (literally) pushed the guy about to pass him out of contention. Sad because I'm sure we would've all liked to see the real results.

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@laurena.9434 I don't think you know the meaning of the word push. Go get glasses Lauren

[@nohands6865]

@@jordanjordannis2258 he impeded the other runner, moving to the outside of lane 1 is ok, moving from the inside of lane 1 to the outside of lane 3 is grounds for a DQ.

[@delwoodkelp8590]

This is legal in roller derby, so why should track have "special" overly protective rules?

[@AbundantMindsetLibrary]

They robbed him, I dont care what they say

[@nohands6865]

He robbed himself. mans went from lane 1 to 3

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@nohands6865 Which is perfectly allowed in 800m running. You are not confined to a lane.

[@nohands6865]

@@jordanjordannis2258 really? I thought it was against the rules in the NCAA to cut people off? If its legal I really wonder why they DQed him...

[@johnharding7650]

He robbed himself

[@J.e.f.f.r.e.y]

NCAA is becoming like world league football (soccer). Diving at the end like the opponent athletes have fouled you.

[@NeziriO1]

He’s completely gassed out, someone is blocking him forcing him to run at an angle whilst he’s giving it everything. The slightest touch is all that is needed to send anyone down there when they’re not expecting it

[@edwardsmoses1977]

That was completely clean. They didn’t touch and it’s done all the time, smart racing.

[@ryanjung4416]

yea everybody complaining. this is part of the sport

[@aleixcatalani3953]

Someone hasn’t read the NCAA rule handbook

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@aleixcatalani3953 World Athletics doesn't even acknowledge this 'NCAA rulebook'

[@aleixcatalani3953]

@@jordanjordannis2258 What competition was this race ran in again? Please remind me

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@aleixcatalani3953 No problem, it's the NCAA indoor championships, registered with World Athletics and therefore bound to WA's rules and guidelines. Anything else I can help you with Aleix?

[@Tamisvideodiary]

Sad

[@foxybrown1742]

Oh well, he'll represent Jamaica anyway in the Olympics.

[@DonGivani]

Weak from Navasky

[@tarekshenaq5713]

Mashallah😍

[@lawrenceh6591]

trash rule. If you lose, you lose.

[@madden69beast]

Whack call

[@aleixcatalani3953]

It’s in the NCAA rulebook

[@t1s137]

Nah that’s lame he deserved the win

[@aleixcatalani3953]

He shouldn't have drifted wide tf

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@aleixcatalani3953 Athing Mu did the same thing last year. As did Letesenbet Gidey. It won them both world titles.

[@aleixcatalani3953]

@@jordanjordannis2258 Maybe they deserved to be DQed as well. That’s whataboutism at its finest though

[@jordanjordannis2258]

@@aleixcatalani3953 I don't think you understand what pragmatism is. No one cares about what 'maybe' should have happened. It's what actually did and does happen, the precedence that was set and the adherence to rule. Navasky broke no rules, so according to WA guidelines and the accepted precedents, he should not have been DQd

[@aleixcatalani3953]

@@jordanjordannis2258 Navasky was DQed in this event. Who’s the one arguing about what should’ve happened in this event? Maybe a new precedent should be set for people like you.